Palace that cut the gap to Liverpool down to 5 points Tottenham's poll phone continued with the one old or against bottom of the table what's that and elsewhere in the Premier League there were wins for Everton Aston Villa Leicester and Chelsea wolves and Southampton finished won't want with Bournemouth a knowledge touring nail nail Celtic have gone back to the top of the Scottish Premiership thanks to a 6 nil thumping of Ross County England will face New Zealand in the semifinals of the World Cup after wins of Australia and island respectively the Wales coach Warren Gatland says his team get stronger as they progress in tournament's they face France wants to pan take on South Africa later on in today's quarterfinals and I'm the Murray has admitted it has been a long road back as he reached his 1st a.t.p. Tour final since hip surgery he defeated to go back in 3 sets and will meet Stanislaw in the final of the European Open this is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live on digital b.b.c. Selous. The weather allows a dry day on Sunday with a few sunny spells in the morning for trotting over later in the day a few showers edging into eastern areas at times of 10 degree celcius in Edinburgh in Belfast 13 in Cardiff and London News on The Late Premier League to anyone else. I was. Sleepy 65 likes creamy Elise and I feel so as a human she still uses House level this is 5 life. And this is a for not only 5 love one Dawson added by coming up in this hour of the program in a moment we'll hear about carrying a borrowed nonbeing sing the roots off the pitch. On Saturday off to some his close received or allegedly received racist abuse. Well that moment they become the 1st English teams have done that by the way as far as we know also we're going to be hearing about Donald Trump and his decision with regards to the g. 7 Summit to have it at a resort that he owns a golf resorts much more overall golf course if you prefer you can imagine what the reaction has been to that amongst his opponents in Congress and in the 2nd half hour of this hour we have to brag sic asked our experts some regs it would be bad to take history what happened on Super Saturday or not something's. The 1st of all racism has reared its ugly head in football again just days after the England c. Merely walked off the pitch over abuse from the stands in Bulgaria the non-league side Harringay Bara did walk off during the 2nd half of an f.a. Cup qualifying match they said supporters of opponents you know who town racially abused 2 players including throwing objects and spitting at their goalkeeper black goalkeeper Valerie Douglas Pascha tat home players left the pitch and the game was eventually abandoned the Yeovil town manager Darren salt held the b.b.c. That his club would offer full support to Herring an f.a. Spokesperson said there's no room for discrimination in our game and they're working with the match officials and the relevant authorities as a matter of urgency to fully establish the facts and take the appropriate steps Harringay Bros manager is Tom noisy so he was in about a 6 to 6 minute. We well 1st of all we were getting a bit of abuse. From some of our science behind tech encounters were here long socks and noises where the players were because I was on top of that. Invited 65th minute we could see your play or it. So my goalkeeper went to the side of the goal like goalkeepers don't to take the ball a drink to have a drink. Before you made any attempts to save though as he bent over initially there were spatter and fifes Globes Jersey. So the goalkeeper turned around to the referee Shane some reference spit on his jersey and as he was doing that call him in the back of the head. Then they continued to abuse the goalkeeper washed in stones aides had and they were fine a Stones off well a sale for it 2nd off from the start a 2nd asked him are goalkeeper on the back of my legs on the back and I had. So the game was delayed. They managed the referee managed to get the ball in the corner is what I took the panel in and scored and my own center half. It was a mixed race that went credible at the back and that along with the overclass they both trust gettable. Probably get the latest the restart static I would hold thought we were trying to get the ball back and we spoil it so we can play one new down as has happened mark mine. Number 6 got Russia abused and upset. It's. A few level players and. The referee couldn't why I couldn't quite control the situation so I walked on the pitch into what players lost. After the close off a call when addressing the un got caught in the restrooms room and said to a are you going to bring the class back that up like a sausage tune not with that chart abuse a missile in front of players we spoke for a little while and. The referee said our situation you're banging on guys that's not Markel it's our said. So who's call is it say said to me it's up to everyone to keep the plaza follow. Simple question can you guarantee the safety of our players he said not so I say Where is the answer I'm not bringing my players back on the field but us it's him again asked my players so had I seen about. I walked into the room they've already had the catch and already had a quick chat with them and me in and there was tremendous stress as in that dressing room and. The captain sits me with I want to go back on the pitch some sort of back usually I went back and told the referee and that try and OS or more players again. They were distressed children with the stress and. Never once and for all of have I ever felt this distressed and a sitter ashtray more pleasant kind of. Those f.a. Officials the. Latest issue of Zara. And an observer from the f.i.o.s. Reads it took some statements down and we went back outside with the overall class. Yeovil class support may a more pleasant the over manager and I must say it wasn't the majority it was the minority again which for the old plans fans and. We've been looking forward to this guns for a couple weeks now we've been working round the clock to ensure the safety of the overall sound segregation make sure that you also don't drink to have were freshman . Making the. Area so I'm a walk on. In one of our car parks and the mine or is everybody. And just to be cleared so I'm just to be clear did you did you take your players on the pitch because of the violence that was being trone have or was it because of the racism. Actually posts or someone spits out more goalkeeper is that racism no someone throws a Pos What more. Is that racism. Someone who cause more. Player an f. . Without swearing on the radio you. F. In black say that's racism that's racist and nasty come out as some. Somebodies mouth scum of the earth whether you want to call them that's nothing at their wishful and so do a society. Mark players a lot more family a lot more sons a look at the more players welfare There's a go at it I place it for club a place for men and this is my way of protecting more players on not going to stand by and listen to racists told. Racist comments and on top of that I have missiles stone bottles and spat at that's not for how many of your players suffered racial abuse. I know one for definite because I heard it I know there was a. Noisy my 8 was we were taking a corner but we hear it all the time now my players just got on with it. But what happened to cull the row which I heard and saw in my own ears and what happened. Was discussed that you know that you as friends are no have become the 1st tea in England to walk off the pitch as a result of racial abuse you know. It's not about being the 1st the 2nd same the last say my going to mark my concern is and even my eyes welled up see a young black player mixed race player with tears in his eyes and he wanted to jump over that barrier so bad. That's what Gazza may. That is what got so made but one area I hear I lost see abuse are here and are see racism every day at this football club a club with it for 10 years Ok 10 years and this was different today my players of gone from Sunday morning football clubs a few of them they've grown with the football club they've grown with me and they've become very very good semi professional footballers and we've all heard it we've all seen on the radio the television and to be actually standing in time for white fish thing for why it was a shock to them players. So we're now Tom Well what now would you expect to come of this well as well what's of the pitch all in show shaped the overall manager's hand and I said good luck in the next round yes I cup doesn't mean that much to make it does more for club because it's it's I can say we rely on the prize money where rely on the prestige and recognition you get from the f.a. Cup but it doesn't mane mushing to me when I say that absolutely nothing this is a players' drink and a manager's dream to play at this level and get as far as I thought we played against If the win would have lost and everybody praised us recognized this guy was recognition and it has taken all the happiness we had last year and all. The expectations of the Shia is totally demoralised my players I'm awful. And again I'll say. It's a minority. Maybe Harringay bar is my hometown. From Harringay where then you know better than most the problems we've got in a month's hiring I know you explain this and for all the problems at sort of 4 walls of having a football club all a crap what goes on as side what has asked fan base grown near enough 200 percent in 3 years and my fans do not sing one abusive song or any opposition or swear officials why I have way while we are able to do this inside hiring a club. Politicians the f.b.i. Really you want to you want to talk about why can't you with so items was. That's a question. Manage a trial lawyer is posing Kurdish fighters Civic is the United States of failing to monitor a cease fire that it broke it in northeast Syria where the Kurds have been besieged by Turkish troops the commander of the Kurdish led Syrian defense force told the b.b.c. That the Turks were violating the terms of this ceasefire Turkey said it was sticking to the agreement and accuse Kurdish militia of breaking the truce Well the Turkish president. Has stretchin to crush the Kurds if they fail to withdraw from northern Syria all of us know if it works it works if it doesn't the minutes those 120 hours expire we will continue from where we left off and keep crushing the heads off there's terrorists the Turks agreed on Thursday to suspend their offensive in the region for 5 days to allow the Kurdish militants who they regard as terrorist to retreat from the border you know the news the longest non stop commercial passenger flight has landed successfully in Sydney the Quantas plane took 19 hours in 16 minutes to fly direct from New York the airline is considering whether to begin regular nonstop flights between the cities and it's enlisted the help of university researchers to find out how such a long flight affects passengers and crew also President Donald Trump has announced that his daughter will result in Miami will not now be used to host the g 7 conference in 2020 Let's talk to 5 Dr James Wickham about this has been a lot of criticism of the president 3 even suggesting that he would host this g. 7 summit next year at his own go. Of Kools Jones Yeah absolutely Dawson and White House officials at the time they said well look we know there's going to be this criticism when this announcement from the president came out but what they said actually we think that the dollar will result in Miami which is owned by the the Trump resort as it's called they said it is the best location for the g. 7 summit next summer they say it would have been staged at cost price sports of course many people also point to the help that the result would have benefited from a huge amount of publicity now as he said this this idea 1st kind of came about back in August at the g. 7 Summit in be a rates but it had been confirmed by the Acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney on Thursday this is what he said in a press briefing just 2 days ago we're going to announce today that we're going to do the 46 g. 7 summit on June 10th through June 12th at the Trump National Darrelle facility in Miami Florida now let's talk about the site selection process because I know you folks last some questions about that how do we go about doing this 1st always a lot of the same criteria that have been used by past administrations as a long list of the accommodations on site the ballrooms bilateral rooms the number of rooms the photo ops the support hotels that are there the proximity to cities and airports helicopter landing zones medical facilities etc So we use the same set of criteria that previous administrations have used we started with a list of about a dozen just on paper and it became apparent at the end of that process that drywall was by far and away far and away the best physical facility for this meeting in fact I was talking to one of the advance teams and they came back and it was like Is it make you not going to believe this but it's almost like they've built this facility to host this type of event there may be a bird Nevertheless we would go. Sidor is a conflict of interest over here having said that though here the prison own so much of these values so many of these venues is really of hard pressed to find somewhere perhaps that is more suitable but how did it come about this reversal in the decision had to come about my no surprise he doesn't but we learned about this through Twitter as usual of course from President Trump in a series of posts tonight he said you know Donald Trump said he even offered to provide the facility for free boats because of what he described as the irrational hostility of the media and his political opponents they're now looking for another site including of course the presidential retreat Camp David now there's been lots of criticism as we said from both Democrats and Republicans but even poke pundits on Fox news of course don't trust favored news out of criticizing the move as a violation of the constituent the Constitution's amulets emoluments sorry I can never say that word often Emoluments Clause which forbids gifts of any kind to a president from foreign leaders so he's gone back on that today glad you had to say not me thank you for. James work and. Ok after the news in sports you will hear from our Briggs costers after something very momentous day in Parliament 1st let's get the latest b.b.c. 5 Live headlines now has Matthew excell from digital b.b.c. Sense just last week alone this is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live the president of the European Council Donald Tusk has confirmed he's received a formal request from Boris Johnson for Braggs that extension he says he'll consult with the u. Leaders on how to respond the prime minister wrote 2 letters to the you one which was required by law as for the extension that one is unsigned the 2nd which he has signed outlines his personal position the number of profit warnings issued by u.k. Companies is at its highest since the 2008 find. Until crisis according to a leading accountancy firm he Weiss says the retail sector is particularly badly affected and Donald Trump has abandoned plans to host next year's g. 7 summit at his golf club in Florida that when concerns he was misusing his office for personal gain but the president's blaming the Democrats on the media for showing what he calls irrational hostility that's the news his dumbos be with the sports Manchester City have closed the gap on Premier League leaders Liverpool to 5 points with a 2 nil win away at Crystal Palace Pep Guardiola was placed with the win but called for his side to be more ruthless in front of goal he played a less power to me than the rethinking happened because they belong in the 2nd those are Gruden the referees and the terms are set pieces free kicks and it is difficult. To score the 31 We deserve to be more clinical in this curve and the Premier League have released a statement with Hawkeye apologizing to Tottenham and Watford fans for an incorrect graphic that was sent to the big screen during their 11 draw Delhi Ali rescued a point for Spurs after a v.a.r. Review for handball decided the goal had been correctly awarded However initially the big screen wrongly indicated a no goal the x. Of Toby out of viral says it was a big point for Spurs you saw today in August a team on the pitch again you see us fighting to get a I think everybody's behind the brand a clip and on the minute I think most of us are going in. 14 like today Everton Aston Villa Leicester and Chelsea all picked up wins whilst wolves and Southampton finished one war with Bournemouth and Nora's during the all nail Celtic crushed Ross County 6 nil to move back to the top of the Scottish Premiership and the Football Association say they're deeply concerned and are working with the match officials and the relevant authorities as a matter of urgency to an f.a. Cup tie between Harringay bar and Yeovil town was abandoned following allegations of racial abuse the Harringay manager Tom Loy zoo told 5 Live he had to. His players off after a number of them were targeted with time off. If you care and so you are sized to set limits on what class a sober mother sells the patent and so on. I thought that was. That much to us we're not going to we could not see over the town council school now. England captain Owen Farrell says his side have to improve ahead of facing New Zealand in the semifinals of the Rugby World Cup next weekend in the defeated Australia 40 points to 16 in the quarter final and the head coach Eddie Jones was delighted with his side's approach it's do or die guided on Iran understands that any of the best Samaras Roys a god suit who had a plan but I could adapt that a calm head without full of aggression and I thought we were pretty much like that today but again a challenge is how we get better position as a bit a samurai around the corner Islander outside after New Zealand beat them 4614 in coach Joe Schmidt's final game in charge in the Premiership Northampton won $2725.00 at sound reasons they will wins 2 for Gloucester Exeter and Worcester Andy Murray has reached his 1st a.t.p. Tour final in 2 years after defeating the Frenchman go bad in the sleigh sets of the European Open in Antwerp and Great Britain's Bianca Walton and Lauren Williams both won silver at the world taekwondo grown prevent in Bulgaria this is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live on digital b.b.c. Sounds small speaker Good morning it looks as though it's going to be dry and for many this Sunday we could still see a little in the in the way of cloud and a few icing to chance for you across the far eastern areas of Britain and if that happens we could stay well the cold and grey throughout much of the day the reason why it's going to feel quite chilly we've got a northerly Bre says Some places don't you know 1st thing this morning in low single figures so head further west. To the best of. Us and it should be. Through Sunday $9.00 to $14.00 Celsius at the. Story from Monday. To build then from the compliant down. Need to draw your attention to a week from to the system that could push up through the new continent in effect Kent and Essex coast on Monday morning. It will be. Generally speaking the emphasis is with a dry. Comparison to the weather we've seen of late. Of around 9 to 14 selfie as precious slipped a little further south into Tuesday and we might see a frontal system just toppling across the high. Outbreaks of rain into the form but generally speaking as a Monday to Tuesday dry and settled with some sunshine a little. East as you know from digital b.b.c. So it's a small street from a lot of risk is b.b.c. Radio. You know I kind of agreed with myself but I only missed back to cash you know if they're a little bit painful and if they were a little bit not much is going on I don't think they'll miss me and then what do I do I miss the wall VSAM it live on b.b.c. One because I thought I could get a good night's sleep before I start doing that radio gig on Radio 4 Anyway that was all done so I thought I'd come back here it was a Saturday afternoon Grex that cast klaxon. Sunday b.b.c. . Close cooperation is next it is. Understood the full extent of this week seriously were long as the days I call a call. For Boris Johnson you want to use the doomsdayers to do just as they are going to get it wrong again the main is in leave is going to end well the last speech by going on disguised as a dog sprigs It is 626 on Saturday and it's the 1st time I've done a House of Commons big day on a Saturday and you're in Westminster I'm in Westminster and Laura out of a catcher has brought a laptop into the practical studio it's one of those days it's a 1st where you to I'm in Brussels at the b.b.c. Office and I meant Brussels in a street but you're in a strange way you don't called and I hope you were dressed warmly enough and I'm about to embark on my friends leaving drinks now that. Way of saying I'm about to go to the pub. Are going to. Haul So it's been a big vote in parliament the ice of the right 322. To the left 306 I. I know right can we can we summarise it as yet a captain crunch point postponed. Kind of be vague so M.P.'s today voted not on whether to delay Boris Johnson's deal for ever M.P.'s voted basically saying you can't have your deal yet so it wasn't no to Boris Johnson's deal that he negotiated the European Union we talked about last week in Brussels it was we are not going to let you do this yet until all the bits of the law that go alongside the Bracks a deal have gone through parliament so it gave the government a bigger hurdle to have to jump over before the prime minister is able to get the clean thumbs up or from there because they're crooks of the Ban Act who your laptop is in our interaction because the crux of the bandits this idea of ensuring that there wasn't a serious problem no deal breaker at the end of this month rested on Didn't that if there wasn't either the endorsement of a deal by parliament or the endorsement of no deal by parliament by Saturday the 19th of October brackets today Brodeur's then a letter would have to be sent requesting a delay and of course if parliament had backed the Boris Johnson plan today that would have been backing a deal and therefore bone would have fallen why exactly can I just backtrack now before we continue down the extension path which is. Just sort of to start at what was expected this morning I mean today had been billed as the day that parliament voted on the deal right and that was that was what today was supposed to be about that was certainly what the e.u. Was expecting yesterday to be about because that's what Boris Johnson had promised That's right and that is absolutely what number 10 wanted today to be so today was meant to be the day when Boris Johnson said to M.P.'s right because you're either for those you're wearing bracelets I can hear them and I like Listen. It makes me think of Christmas as you say it's almost like you know reindeer kind of sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry. Yes I mean a man I don't know and that's a sad day was meant to be that that Earth or I m P's do you back Boris Johnson in the deal or not but conning lady Oliver Letwin everyone in the Tory Party favorite policy well said. Well if we vote just on the deal today then it could be a chance that the bill all the law is going through in the next 10 days actually then the deal falls apart and we leave by accident with a video so he came up with another cunning plan which actually showed that the Ban Act was not. Even there all the people who were involved in the last few weeks have been saying that's an outrage of course it's really really want to type anyway that's a different kind of fish so it meant that instead of getting to that vote on straight up or down on the deal they voted 1st on this not yet vote no or not yet and what the government did was they said farm we're going to have a proper vote on you know then because you guys are just trying to frustrate the process so we therefore have a thought don't we and this is the thing that's worrying around a half 6 on the night it would appear the government is quite keen to bring the so-called meaningful vote forward on Monday yeah. And then therefore there was a curiosity isn't that if that meaningful vote was to pass on Monday and then Parliament has expressed its will that the boy's Johnson deal should happen and a letter is in the meantime going off to Brussels which we may or may not have seen but the winds have been by don't want to she was only time for a discussion about that a minute delays and what the delay might be and what you it would be up for and all that kind of stuff. Meaningful vote for whatever it is passes then and the government says right well we've got 10 days or whatever it will be 10 days by going to crack on with this because well we haven't agreed Abraxas extension even though we've sent a letter and therefore it's the little no deal by we can both go and but this is obviously what's confusing everyone Ok because and I'll put my hand up so and so you have the let one amendment today which says hold on a minute before we approve your your your new deal we want you to pass all the legislation and then it feels like Jacob Riis Mark said Yeah whatever we're going to go and vote on anyway on Monday yes so there's nothing in the an amendment that stops people voting on the deal what it does is basically said we won't withholds final approval if you like until it's all done and dusted so they'd have to vote again does that mean what's it mean with holding final approval that's what confuses me well. I mean the whole look this is all completely unconventional untested unprecedented Knesset going to so can I say 2 things that are clear before we get to all that basically we Monday and Tuesday might be complete pantomime again so the government's going to try to have another vote on Monday if not the builder going to vote on the 2nd reading of the bill so they can have a try on on Tuesday but this is the bit of legislation they need to get through the House of Commons on the House of Lords of fact it's going to happen exactly but what will happen by midnight tonight is that the government will send a letter to the e.u. Asking for a delay the prime minister will also as we've talked about it before send a 2nd letter I'm pretty sure saying it's my policy not to try to push you this but by law here is my letter announcing that will land I think in Brussels by midnight tonight so if you still have a little below 1 am How about anywhere where is the latter and what are the commission say today Adam so what have we sort of heard e.u. Sorry today we got a tweet from the commission saying with her. No of course happened which is what they say whenever something has happened in the member states even if it's like an asteroid hitting them. And they say well we started doing ladies and gentleman Yeah they say way in here some clarity from what the u.k. Has got to say and what happens here is on Sunday morning at 930 Brussels time so $830.00 u.k. Time the ambassadors having meeting the infamous core of her as it's known and that was meant to be about just figuring the legal process for ratifying the deal on the side because that involves obviously lots of bureaucratic hoops but of course probably be what do we do but I do just think though that actually is rising alas are saying requesting an extension and then writing another letter or in the same letter saying it's not really a real request well then they don't have to do anything right and again that leverage politics is what it's like over the next few days and they want to do that they're looking for a reason to let Because as far as I concerned they've just done a 2nd day oh and 48 hours ago Boris Johnson you know amongst all that back slapping him between the backs or actually possibly at the same time as the back slapping was promising them absolutely that then you negotiate a deal would be passed by a majority of M.P.'s in parliament today and so I mean I had this image I said a bit more politely on the teatime news just now but I just I had this image of the Michael's in the mountains and everyone just like the expletives that will have light been flying out in full time along the European capitals today not of a belief that in 100 percent I mean they didn't they they won sure when he said Of course I mean the no you know it is they can count numbers in parliament and they knew it was going to be tight but this whole thing with the Letterman him Amendment and more delays and more delays and the delays you know it's just they've just had it they just don't want any so like Adam said I mean they now want to no pressure to respond to the latter because you know it's not clear if there's a 2nd lateral or kind of brackets and everything from the prime minister and. You know their deadline is the 31st of October not actually Monday or exact it is a window so whatever else has happened today there is a window that the prime minister will have to keep trying and that's why there isn't actually a contradiction is that really saying I've sent a letter because parliament has the hospital but I want to do about it by the 30 for exactly because the timeframe would have been the same even if meaningful vote forward passed a right in front of the political momentum would be but yeah exactly and just as Katter and have been saying right the is not going to you know they're not going to respond to this until there's more clarity from here so is this kind of wind and I think what they were low also be is another big legal fight is actually the court session in Edinburgh is already due to hear like the next bit of this ongoing saga about whether or not the prime minister by saying politically which is what I think he's going to do because then they've made that pretty clear and said. After the vote to what extent is he trying to frustrate the law by just sending a letter saying about I don't really want to do it in and of you know you get caught driving a 100 miles an hour or there wasn't a speedometer in my car so I didn't really do it or anything about what the prime minister said though in the Commons there was he said I will not negotiate which are presumably is a very carefully chosen words because it is due to resume a ever negotiate to the previous 2 extensions or did she just ask for them which they're going to process on the e.u. Sides which then consulted her and then there was a joint agreement on the duration of the extension exactly actually very carefully the Ban Act is actually silent to salute the benefit to someone in government with the benefit to silent. Negotiation only says you have to go I'd like to ask it also has the text of the letter so the letters in the act does no question about what the government actually has to do in terms of that part they don't know is going to come back as a result you don't know what it's going to come back and you also don't know what else they might or might not be able to do but I can put it I mean as I think boringly been predicting on various podcast for about the last 3 weeks this will almost inevitably involve some more court cases what happens. And then on Monday they might say oh the prime minister is breaking the law by doing whatever it is he does by midnight tonight then it might go to the High Court in London and the lady hail and her spider broke should be back could be back very early in the political jeopardy remains of a potential no deal breaker and a deadline that is very imminent and politically that might be useful to the government so come on was a really good battle does the vote on the last win Amendment is that a proxy for who would vote for the deal in a meaningful vote so if you said no to the lot of an amendment does that mean that you're basically automatically a yes vote for the deal I. Of but there are also people who voted for the lemon Amendment who will vote for a deal including all of self so he were about to do but actually an m.p. Vote text me after the vote very very excitedly saying look at the voting let's look at the voting lists look at who did wall they believe actually there are the numbers to pass the deal which is why although Boris Johnson is going to have to do something he promised he wouldn't something he hates he has lost today in a way that is a source of great frustration in some it's not a dreadful come because it is exactly if you look at the voting list or suggest as maybe the majors and yeah I became a majority then it was revealed that's not to say this is been a good result for Bush just that I don't mean that for a 2nd before I get accused of also things by people listening who get terribly angry about also is that I'm just saying you know if you look at the numbers from today. He may well have the support there to get you through and then there's the intriguing thing isn't there around the whole me before meaningful vote for if it happens on Monday and this there was some talk actually so I wasn't about whether the speaker might not allow it because it would be too similar to what happened today but anyway but if it happens and because it's a discrete vote do you back this deal or not as opposed to the with George agreement bill where it will be also. Of amendments and all the rest of it that if you are a Labor m.p. Who is inclined to be seen to be backing some form of Bracks or at least not doing the opposite which is being seen to constantly stand in the way of it if it comes to a meaningful vote you are forced to jump one way or the other whereas if it's all bound up in the ritual agreement better than the stuff that talks about a softer form of practice or another referendum or all the rest of it you might be able to make the argument you have indorsed direction but a slightly different flavor Yeah and I just congratulate you create something coming very German throughout this breaks progress rule of the web I guess because of the complicated that you are speaking in so many subordinate clauses. That it's I mean I feel like it's really it's a blanket clause. My hoot off to you I mean you take you. Take. That well yeah yeah yeah yeah but that does make me wonder about our old friend the why so I mean obviously so so you could have your 2nd reading vote of the wild which is like the general in principle prove or be Monday Tuesday on the legislation on Monday or Tuesday is going to be what I actually hope and oversee that will be that could become like the meaningful vote and will be a big signal about whether there's in favor of people in favoring the or not but could the passage of the wire but self become really fraught Yeah yeah and ever example could you have the d.p. Trying to a man's the wire yet so that actually the replacement backstop becomes something different I will bet 50 quid that there are lots of troublesome amendments to the Web And what do you people I think trying to do an amendment on the consent process and goodness knows how much we've discussed in the last few days on boats accustomed to 4000000 babies so what does that mean that there is a new because the e.u. Yeah I mean you can amend to your heart's content but yeah you know the the willingness on this side to sit down and go all right no problem we'll amend Adam you'll tell me you know and bind to our next what ever bloody dark point 4.9. It's like it's like it's sort of their whole mean of normal you know and that's again what I find slightly It's almost like the u.k. Goes off and starts doing all these things in parliament but you have to take the e.u. Into account him or you amend the content well that it would all agree Well this is the problem isn't it always have international treaties through domestic parliaments is that I mean this is the problem is there out of a kitchen and was always always going to be but there is a debate I mean we are in circles within circles of in circles here so someone someone who was interested made cabinet told me earlier in this week that Iran is misunderstanding this is what you mean he said well the advice they had was that we could still legally leave just with the one symbolic vote just with Exactly and kind of worry about this later so they told me I have not seen the advice of which they spoke but they said to me with absolute confidence that the reason maze cabinet had asked this question of their officials and the advice they had been given was if they got the m.v. Through the kind of you can the troublesome little bit see places you could maybe do later now again whoever is listening to this present cast who's been studying withdrawal agreement and certainly if you're a lawyer or whatever but you know. That's the political view of some people around the place as a member of his journalism the vision that has bedeviled us throughout so I mean this is then b. I want to you know there was. A moment as it was Mormonism so I need to know what this is ridiculous So so the 1st week I was embroiled the 1st week of the negotiations somebody from the British side said Well of course the issue is is I'm honest versus a journalist sister of course in France for example you have a monist system which means a man your mark wrong can sign an international treaty Ok season which we don't as opposed to automatically it automatically becomes law in France because there are because they are in modest system but in the u.k. We have a journalist system whereby the prime minister can sign an international treaty but as we implemented and domestic legislation to give a force on this and actually that has been something that has bedeviled the whole process this is the point I think actually you are making a few weeks ago that that's the imbalances in the negotiating process and the was there and was definitely pretty much represent knew what it was standing for what its bottom line was and the British government was there but always knew I had to go back to parliament and get clearance for what's right whatever was a great what and where is the e.u. Once thought Parliament might help solve the issue Well originally they hoped they'd solve it by making the BRICs a deal much softer and possibly reversing it and then they just hoped they'd help the government find a line. And then no I mean it just came back where we don't want this we don't want this and we don't know what we want which is another reason why the e.u. Is so reluctant for more extensions because they're not convinced you would come to final conclusions I then I had a question on the extension front whether we need more time and how much more time but I think by telling me how difficult is going to be with a little bit it's probably a moot point how much you know both sides like the used to say we need to see the new draft text of a new treaty with loads of time for governments to examine it to take its parliament in the end they didn't they just had a couple of hours in. What about your trees may say take it's going to take is a month or 2 months to get all this legislation through parliament but she didn't say that by the end Exactly so what is this so your stance is that we can do it I think there's a couple of things here I think one is elastic isn't it exactly as you are suggesting. Is exactly as you're suggesting that we couldn't possibly do this because we have to translate into a 1000000 languages and we couldn't possibly have the legal text by this week if we had I mean I remembered Adam didn't one of the ambassadors I'm sure you reported somebody said to you categorically it is now too late for that they said one of our other colleagues and then miraculously is I mean I think there's going to be a really brisk trade in sleeping bags Yes. I remember lying. Yeah exactly yeah well you know. There's I've. Gone a difficult a possible and you know time can stretch and don't underestimate the kind of desperation in government. And if they need to be there all night they will if they need to sit next weekend they will. Mark a great Right and you know everybody have term value that's a fire to the family for. In government they think it's still just about doable now they might be wrong but you know political time is not real time where it's strange and even when you speak to be Officials with the people who you know after work out the whole procedure of all of this is that they make your difficult but possible points there is no use at 24 hours in the week and. Complicated in the Lords but you know who knows the government wants to get this done yada yada yada and I think you guys have to. View it is one of the really interesting things that's happened in the last couple weeks is that I don't she now has a really strong view that basically and you were hinting at this a minute ago Katter that basically now the key players on the e.u. Side have kind of given up on the idea of having another referendum and they've kind of given up on oh well let's see if part. As he was suggesting kind of comes around once a softer back say well maybe try to stop it and that. They think you know how to change his mind if people as we've talked about many times were still so hopeful that this my old going to go away and he would change their mind is that what you know they write from your contacts are Democrats used to think that because that is no the government view here. Ok I'm a little bit skeptical about that because of the Donald special place and how else but yeah and I don't history what everyone forgets is that the 1st half of that speech was him giving up on the remain campaign in the u.k. Exactly he said there's no leadership no amount of normalization noted and so actually I do think that he who was the last biggest remainer left in Brussels had given up on that cause ages ago so I do wonder if that is maybe a little bit exaggerated and I think it's really in time exaggerated that it's only happened recently you know yeah right or that it was a big fan or it was a big factor in a go see Asians I mean the biggest biggest factor was defending the interests of the e.u. And one of Barney is team who has stood next to me in the Boris Johnson jungle gym or press scrum where I arrived late was right at the back but. I was yeah I got to hang out with Task Force 50 watching a couple that actually been awful every night for 2 weeks drafting that it was so that was quite cool and they were like you got to understand we stuck to our principles but we massively changed our positions and so that. They managed to sign up to something that looked different which one of them stayed to say. They ever heard that such as. Well I think we have to let you know your position if you look at the e.u. Press over the last couple of days they all sort of agree that everybody moves and they think that Boris Johnson made the most painful political concessions for the whole years he's the one who said he would not have a dividing line down the Irish Sea and he's. He's totally gone for and that was the moment that Iraq could change he said fine we will have a consent mechanism the e.u. Doesn't like all the new customs thing arrangements is going to be really complicated but as Adam says they safeguarded what they said they would never give up on they what they did not compromise the single market more than they like it's bearable it's totally fine for them and also they feel that that island is happy and that they're happy that's the Good Friday agreement has been protected and that for them was the absolute bottom line and for them they saw Boris Johnson give up any idea of those alternative arrangements help find this guy thing so the e.u. Feels like it did move and it did you know do things that said it wouldn't do like ripping to draw agreement everything but the biggest concessions were they feel on the u.k. Side but Boris Johnson has won respect again from these leaders they are not sitting there they're despairing about the possible military of further delay they're not despairing at's Boris Johnson they think that he has pulled off something and I think that is a really interesting difference and on the idea of referendum I think all referendums or whatever we want to want to say a referendum and I think I mean again I am I am I would push my friends I host at this moment they believe like that is going to be done and if it's going to be done they don't want any more delay the bottom line is if it looks like that could be a no deal so nothing is in place the 31st of October is coming I cannot imagine these leaders saying no to another standard when they would expect a general election and they would expect a 2nd referendum or they would expect a referendum but I mean in the short term. To the poll the politics of the e.u. And the British government I would like to write something shorter This is in the next week or so my right to reason may at the time but remember I also wanted to help her get the deal but it is funny because people were also talking to the summit and they said member younker said to us in the pen in the press pen there will be no problem and we reported. And then there is a sort of meltdown on social media that somehow we are saying how is that going to be a delay and it wasn't and there couldn't be a delay which was of course not what he said and remember it is not as if he's gay right now but what's really interesting is number 10 at least I think we've talked about this before for at least a month they've been saying to you Look if we get a deal can you really try to have us persuade people that there shouldn't be a delay because that right easy for them to make. An interesting that younger said what he said yes for people who might go he did not say there can't be an extension and you know he didn't want to channel 4 he pretty much did kind of echoed something someone Varadkar Yeah well that's exactly my point I mean that's what he said to us there cannot be a problem geisha shouldn't be a delay it isn't because it was right it's not it's not simply up to him but this is the fascinating saying so when Number 10 originally said said you know off the off the record that they would be delighted if the basic education I was delayed went on the never say anything like that to be completely ridiculous but exactly as you say to this load to political noise like that this afternoon micro I said he stays just told us Johnson and he said Oh you must clarify the position quickly and I think earlier this afternoon I don't know if anyone saw there was an official from the said something along the lines of you know let's just get on with it let's not have a delay and that is not great if you are Hilary Benn or care star or on a superior someone you know paying always said to treason as to Boris Johnson if you sign up to a deal that respects our red lines which she has the we will help you sell it however you like and and that's what they're going to do but that but I do repeat that I think at the end of the day they will grow on a 6 share and yeah it's very much so if they can leave a week or so. I think they're literally there you have time we were discussing They could even was the last summit on the 30 on the morning of the 30. So I mean if they want to spend 28. Oktober that might be willing have something. To say. But what was interesting was a minute let's tell you what we're going to think on Saturday. So we can choose he said something else. I do what I do I'm what I'm good for you know I'm good for frostbite on your behalf I've got I got I you know I'm going to. Try that Saturday try again. Or trauma Tuesday Tuesday we can try him for Tuesday on a postcard back so your alliteration down I just have one more thing I want to say . On the on the I don't know you know empty on the on the idea of giving up the idea of remain or anything like that well the e.u. Has not given up on is the idea of a the u.k. One day maybe wanting to come back and be in the name of the you have to scale up an offer of a short of a soft Abraxas deal because again we're talking here about exit the clue is in the name should be Ok rather than brags about it but would we we have cannot have an idea at this point what the future relationship is going to look like once the new trade agreement renews British major star security Yeah so I think that they know the back of their head whereas M.P.'s of fighting for that future now that they feel passionately about in the e.u. Mind is there is time there is time for those future relations and I think when it comes to I think more M.P.'s are actually fighting about stopping it we're not round their fight for the future relationship I mean I think for me I think I still think that's the the big divide of course this could be the last chance from the expected to do it exactly and a lot of people of course do care very deeply about the future listenership and Labor M.P.'s are worried about the protections on environment and works right not being. Illegal do but I. I think. For people who want to stop it. Yeah and that's why I think the next. 10 days are going to be even more Tonto than . Going to be really. Sticking our fingers into electric sockets I have an understanding and. Before we go I'm just going to give you one amazing fact you are going to show Barney a this week oh so you can deal with on this a bit about that yeah so the deal was done on the 17th of October which is a very special day for him because that is the year decades ago when the International Olympic Committee awarded the Winter Olympics to Albertville in France which he organized. Competes did you. Get into sports. But he's a big scare I think as a means for a woman to me that he might. Pull down the in sports medicine I mean don't you for a bit of your whole bunch of attitude going the wrong person 94 door and I want to I'm going to. Go. Can I just say Lou Allen has just tweeted us and saying change and see what happened in Parliament today I couldn't work out so I turned over and watched the Clangers instead. I said I'm hoping that breaks it cast will make it all clear later on and there is a tremendous gap of 5 little Clangers waving at all the cameras and I see babies we can see babies should be friends with. The Klein is what I know which one. Was that it could sing the pumps June that would be then anyway I'm sorry very sorry right when you. Are nice lay joy if I got time to find the time to the. B.b.c. Pooh. He writes in it said yes we can do this in the news now I mean I shut up shut up don't do that we can't play any music copyright he would get into. On a record. Like. This they settled it because it is. Free to. Exit. From the b.b.c. Like you. Did a breakfast. Time and so let me just to subscribe to us we just mention b.b.c. Sound and without having to do anything else our ramblings will meander on every way. This. Time with the latest b.b.c. News I'm Matthew Axel good morning the prime minister has written 2 separate letters to the e.u. The 1st which he's required by law to send requests to Bragg's extension he hasn't signed that one but he has signed the 2nd note which tells a year leaders that he doesn't want any further delay not only Bennett is a member of the House of Lords and former leader of the Green Party we do use quite internationally embarrassing this is our prime minister behaving like a Soucie teenager you think forced to clean up they were doing it the slightly noisily you really as I possibly can if you just got brought up by you have the president of the European Council Donald Tusk says he's received. Request and will consult other e.u. Leaders on how to respond or Europe editor catch Adler is in Brussels here in the e.u. There is 0 appetite to drag out the BRICs that process any further at all in fact we heard from a manual man called the French president again this evening saying he didn't think that an extension was in anybody's into.