From. We're back with our panel and we've just been talking about Sue's boyfriends a lot men you know we have here and I think it's really cool. Thing that's the kind of boyfriend you want well this was somebody bring something to the table like literally Yeah and he's done some man jobs that's what you all like tall lights that like just can't yes show but she was about another you know got another my professional right. Kind of gone 7 years of actually. I know they'll be offended if you don't ask Yeah I got all the shelves. For every occasion. Why not well say we have to get you one Come Dine With Me Like that's my new aim in life to get you one come about I don't think I'm going to do it now. Ok I need to find another reality t.v. You want to just be brilliant by cough no you know I call. You know your talks were good for you were doing all it was that area yeah I love no yeah if you start riffing with some really crazy combinations I'm crazy for cash and it's not that good that I not like a cat I'm not like cook and I passed and passed a vegetarian and. I said I was biking I love to play Go to actually. Buy golf and I'm not ashamed you know I love it things always have to stuff when I'm what I know that's appropriate so. It's not going to have anything. By coast on or just going to get some I've been trying not to be like yeah I have 3 weeks off sugar and my whole life changed I felt amazing when I went and all of these a whole day for 5 days 3 weeks worth of sugar with and they said Yeah I'm here so I know I should go and I was like a week ago and I'm still trying to get off the ship it's just not helping people when I come here and like Gary's waving a biscuit in at me you know it doesn't come off cafe and I don't care how many. Yeah and I was always Coffee coffee coffee I just get take half and I don't crack that one well let's crack on with our next panel Yes And so another of our guests on Monday night was Cheryl Roach Well she was an amazing guest she was really inspirational she's an artist with an exhibition of her work and a film that's just been made about her life but although she was happy to talk about this what she really wanted to do was praise her mum and tell us what a brilliant but I'm recognized artist she was then on Thursday night we had a band called The Oilers come into our introducing show whilst waiting for their interview they had a track by another artist called Lucy grab who's got a launch next week I do believe the Art Center say they told us they'd never met Lucy but they loved her music so much so they wanted us to tell her that they thought she was amazing and one of the best songwriters they knew up there with the best in the world that got us thinking other people that you know people you've met or heard about the field just don't get the recognition that they deserve someone who works really hard for others or someone with a talent that they don't shout about and so doesn't get noticed and if there's someone you admire and know and you haven't actually have told them he would be the person you were champion off you go so why Ok so I met Lisa lease with a 2nd Lisa Lisa Jane so I called Elisa because I'm. Not much memory Lisa Jane she played at the gig the world mental health kick that we done the other day she was actually fantastic she'd only just got out of hospital and she played and I was I was really nervous not been playing in a punt that. I was in but I was in a mess at the Arctic and got do 3 songs on my own panic and she was just so calm but so beautiful have always was just so beautiful and just the calm about it Oh I think the real unsung heroes are that that's the that's the nice people isn't it Joe I mean I think the real people are the people that don't kick off and go on they so long so big I. For all of them all the humble people that were Yeah yeah and I think we're all a bit not that Sam I'll give you we had a little laughter last week oh yes a little love we did I used to take and then he said I really admire what you're doing with Mind The Gap which she did you know when I was going you to me were overweight Yeah so I must own no idea what's happening but almost as a compliment Paypal I'm always up for it let people live think people up as it is and that yeah yeah it's definitely I think it's really important my partner she's been working with volunteers for a long time and I didn't really know what was going here I didn't really realize how much work goes in to local charities and into local community groups not just in Norwich but all over the county really and over the world well yeah my partner works for the British Red Cross and she has some incredible volunteers that come in you know the people that give up their own time they don't get paid they're providing a service for people who really need it and I deserve another shout he says I would let you know that the volunteers don't you know who don't ask for anything back and very often they are in the caring or they're in the charity sector. Those there are some great caring doing yeah I've got some some people have it I know yeah nobody got a candidate sometimes it would you know I've done a little bit of work with the young carers charity based up in great yes there are some incredible young people that don't go coming home and caring for a loved one caring for a relative and it's just phenomenal what some of them are doing what they do and then even though it's is exactly you know and even now is this just the day to day life and you look at that think wow now I know he's succeeding as a as a teenager but you're also you know looking after sibling looking after your parent whatever it may be and I think those unsung heroes of day to day life I don't want to have to. Conversation without mentioning chip and the knowledge Yeah absolutely you know what I know an absolute diamond and you know she suffers from mental health issues that I suffer. You know and she's she's on there but she started this and people are getting fired and everyone's everyone's helping Yeah but I don't think movement is so yeah big shout Big love to cheer yeah yeah oh that's cool so I mean with the group thing as well I think there's lots of musicians that are working so incredibly hard and then for someone to make a comment like that you know I think you know a great songwriter means so much as well isn't just a compliment it's something that hits you a little bit deeper inside I think when someone comments on your art as well do you agree you must get out so well yeah definitely I mean I guess. Because I'm still in the calendars obviously someone said 10 pounds that's quite a lot of money for calendar and I was like well not really a slot less than a quid a month. I mean I was like That's my quick math. So well had this that had this going on in my head you know that that sort of like you want to I'm probably more prone to the negatives of paper side and so when you do a pause if it's really not lovely and also when you don't expect my friends always break a man up and they always come and I told you we tell you Ok I'm not you but you love me yeah you know it's different it's different when you get it from someone that you you don't expect informal You don't know I went in the more full house every day and knowledge went on the case you didn't quite work has has some money off you what. You've made it was and then when your money often or is you know that you are superstar. I think that what you said at the beginning though so is is right we still lift each other up I think we see these memes on line like women need to lift each other up and I agree but also just all human beings need to lift each other up the name out for you know whatever you need to lift each other up and just love each other. Compliment those good things and just acknowledge what people are doing it's not random outputs are just going to be no report for Gap and no reading about the 5 ways to well being and one of them is kindness and giving and it's all about random acts of kindness actually if you give a random act of kindness it makes you feel good as well. Isn't it when when be nice. Because I know what you think thought well understood you just do some people do it too to get the thanks and I think some people. Think me about Friends episode you know what I'm talking about with Phoebe let's be sting her. You know nothing about how do you want to get and she said that she thought I'm going to do something that's completely unselfish completely unselfish act I'm going to let it be sting me so it looks really tough in front of all of us. But then someone tells you Well actually the baby dies once Yeah but is that so I mean it's about you doing something because you genuinely want yes you want a reaction from whoever else yeah but I think I think those people I think they're the heroes I think the unsung heroes are the ones that were the ones that I wanted so yeah once it was the ones that were shy away from any sort of coverage or any compliment I think for musicians I'm We we are in a city and I've said this before of some incredibly talented young people who are fabulous at what they do. But with art there is a little bit of a isn't there inherently in what you do you know you talk to me that there is you actually. You know it's great to hear that you are great and that your your friends think you're good or that your peers think you're good or people within your. Community think you're really good but that there are people. There are people I think it's night and you cited some people aren't doing it because. I want to be good they just did it because I want people to think yes yeah yeah yeah I think you're find that most musicians vice artists actually they want their recognition but they're also filled with crippling self-doubt and that's to end up like just about the same balancing them out there yeah conflict Yeah you can get compliments one day and then the next day you're the worst musician again on the planet because you played wrong chord you know I think I just cited one of that one when I got to go. Out and about my music and all that he's really good musician and I was not my if I listened to what everyone said to me 30 years ago I never would have done what I've done to maintain his hair just do it just enjoy it you know and if people like Someone's always going to love it and some was always going to hate it you can't please everyone can Yeah exactly it's subjective and we need to keep it that way don't you know the out of people. Thank you panel for having fun not what we're actually going to play one of those Lucy Craft tracks now because I agree with the all is actually I think Lisi is a phenomenal talent and one that should should be complimented regularly and she is launching a Peanuts week in or thought Center believe it's on the Wednesday night so everyone should also go to that this is not into anyone by Lucy grow up thanks Paul. I am I'm. I'm a. Long. Long. Long long long sublime. Long. Long. Long a lot of the but. I am. I am. I am I'm a. Long. Long long sublime. A long a long. Long. That was not in to anyone by Lucy grow up Lucy has been the Norfolk this evening she's been nominated for an offical award for all of the great stuff she's been doing with the music she played their lives. Just sending you lies of love from the peeps right in Norfolk studio and we hope you had a really good evening you know the track this is shiny. Now we're going to do something a little bit different over the next couple of weeks tonight we're going to be hearing the 1st part of a series of reports telling Laura Middleton He's experience with cancer and how that led her to create Laura's life is for living list reporters so I feel like can caught up with low at her home for a chat about how her life changed so suddenly I was like Amy I suppose normal 20 year old just having a really good life. I began hairdressing when I was 17 after less cool and qualified in 2005. With Ivy care and hairdressing so I carried that on I then left and went and had a little bit of a break and decided to go and work on c.p.r. It's actually abroad I just felt like I needed to do something a little bit different something that was travelling as well although I because I think money from 17 I think I was reluctant to give up the earnings so I went and worked on c.b.s. As a stewardess which was fantastic to me all over Europe and then came back and worked for a while and for about 7 months before it's up my own business and that was I think really where life kind of kicked saying because I moved to a little house in Orange I as I had set up my business and how dressing I absolutely just loved. You know running my own business and just having having so good social life out of it and me and my other half we met in early 2010 as well say with so going through a lot together. So what made you go back to the head dressing after c.p.l. Why did you decide to do this and. I always was very passionate about hairdressing and it was actually something I never wanted to stop it was just I needed a bit of a break so I was always I always knew I was going to get back to it I was very very passionate about it I just loved it's a very very sociable job and I think for someone like talking just good and you know I just met so human incredible people actually doing the hairdressing it was fun it was creative. It's not members it was a bit scary bar that was something I'd always thought actually age you know if I save a bit of money while I'm away on the going to come back I'm going to do that because it's something I've always been very passionate about doing I think working for a salon you know never gets you so far and I was very very keen on the wedding side of hairdressing and that was why I really pushed it when I became self-employed so yeah I was always going to was going to come back to it you started your business. You know what were you picturing for the future I think as every normal person in their sort of early twenty's does potentially a relationship that might end up in marriage might end up having a family I've also to be that I'd always been one of these people who had wanted a family I always had a very maternal instinct from a young age and so yeah I just guess you know the normal as opposed to Dish and all thing of buying a house getting married having kids that kind of thing so how long after you started the business did you realise that you were on while you had the 1st grandson seem well yes so I actually started in. June of. 20122012. It was actually only a year and a half later so I. Would always talk about doing a bit of travelling before we settle down and had a family and we'd been together by this point I meant 1010 so like 4 years. And the end of 2013 which to go to Australia we get it I think it's something that a lot of people want to do and we always thought she once we've bought a house maybe got a mortgage have the children you know Australia is quite a long long way away and you've got to go for a long period of time so we decided we're just going to do it so we bought it for 5 weeks over Christmas and New Year and it was something we were just so looking forward to neither said had a break away that long together and when I was running my own business I was just like you know I can take the time off it I don't have to ask someone to take 5 weeks off I just can do it so but it and it was actually on this trip which was December 23rd that I discovered. That there was a lump in my left breast and I was only $25.00 I thought it would be just to see if there were hormone or lump so I didn't think anything of it we carried on with the holiday and came back the end of January had you mentioned anything to Brad at that point and he just it's nothing yeah I did I So I found. This little I was very very tiny probably about the size and just little little heart and I had come out of the shower I think because I was using one of those in my body wash scrubs normally and because we were travelling around quite a bit and we were going to different motels I can be able to get it wet but it would pack it wet so I just using my hand as you do to put body wash on and I came across a slump and also came out Charice went out can you give a feel of this. That something a bit odd obviously a blush rapidly but he could feel that there was something he she was more concerned than I was I was I'll be nothing I'm too young for anything serious you know and he'd been I'd like to consider Dr Oz like I'm not going to go and see a g.p. In Australia we're going home in 3 weeks you know I'll wait to go and so I did and he kept on saying well you can see someone and I just kept on saying no not yet because I thought it was going to be anything. So when did when did you eventually die so I'm not sure he put so we came back via Hong Kong and why was that you know Hong Kong I thought we had about 6 hours on our return Brad just kept on pressurising me to look at what's the point and so I sat there actually emailed my doctors when I was in the air for my trip home and it was about 3 or 4 days after we landed but I then went to the g.p. About it. Again my doctor was quite. Not really that concerned because of my age because it actually wasn't painful and because it moved she said it's likely to be assessed but I just want a 2nd opinion because I'm not qualified enough to give you that news for certain which I'm obviously extremely grateful about now because she found out not that long later. But out of her doctor's surgery is about 20 G.P.'s and they have a meeting every kind of few weeks and they talked about my case and only one other g.p. Would have recommended me to go to the hospital or referred me sorry because of my age which is quite scary that's very that's very scary when you think of it like that we did you begin to get nervous like when you knew you had to go to the hospital for a 2nd opinion or were you still just like. Have you ever had it cost your mind a toll but it could be something serious I think honestly breast cancer. Did crop in my mind occasionally but I think because she was very like Oh I'm sure it's nothing I was a bit like alright you know that's going to check out I kind of a Seems that it was going to be something that we need for moving because at this point it was a little bit larger. And I thought you know I might have to have an operation or I might have to have some treatment on it I don't think I quite realised that it could be is so severe and it wasn't really until So I it was about 2 weeks until. The hospital visit and actually. I was about I actually wanted to see me on a Friday and I actually postponed the appointment till the Monday because I had wanted to do what I was there waiting her for so. That was just me because I wasn't you know I wasn't thinking of going through this so I then went into hospital and I got told I probably would need a biopsy on it so I was prepared for that although I wasn't prepared for the pain or the discomfort you get from a biopsy. While I was having the ultrasound so I did that 1st they did not found and then a biopsy but one of them the ultrasound I was chatting to the nurse. Who was in the room and I said why don't you mammogram and she said because of your age your breasts are too dense a there's no point as my granny move right see anything and so it wasn't until I came out of the biopsy and I sat in the waiting room and they said. No sorry I was before the biopsy so I had the ultrasound and then I was going to go for biopsy but I went back to the waiting after my ultrasound and I then got called for mamma gram and then I come back out again and then they called me 3 for a 2nd mammogram it was only at this point thing started. I think worrying me because I was like they have seen something and they're not happy because they told me they wouldn't do a mammogram so I think at that point it started to feel a bit like God is this really you know could this be something can you remember how that felt especially since like you said you just postponed it like it's fine like the doctor is not worried to then all of us and be like well you mean it why why you do they keep needing me to go back in for something else and you know I think it was just a case of the kind of brain start taking and being like you know what what have they seen is it serious is it not serious I think as much as cancer then crossed my mind or so just thought Hang on just don't don't worry about something at the moment it's it could be nothing and I could just being overcautious I was very fortunate that Brad was with me on the on that day particularly because actually the procedure and the scans and everything I mean I was in there for probably 4 or 5 hours it was intense it was really intense and I think no one quite prepares you for that because no one's really sat down and said it could be this. And then we got told you know the results will be here in a week or 2 come back for for an appointment and it wasn't then. I think in that in those 2 weeks I was starting to worry a little bit more I had to. I haven't told anyone I think I told my best friend about 2 days before my results were due in. That I got but other than that I'm totally my friends or family so no one knew that I was even having these tests and I think partly that was because I just was like why worry anyone if there's nothing to worry about but also I think I didn't again sort of really believe the severity of it or that it could be something I mean it doesn't happen to people it may doesn't happen to 25 year old busy people who've got their own business and sociable that's what my thoughts were just so I went back in and I remember being 24th of February 2014 and 9 am in the morning and I walked into a little room and she just looked and she just said you know I don't know how to tell you this and me in bed looked at each other and she did said you've got breast cancer and I don't really remember much of the conversation after that point it just all became a bit of a blur because I think I just cried I think it's just one of those really really hard you can't you can't bear yourself for that nice. Again I'm ready Fortunately Brad was there because he he could listen to a bit of it he still was in his own little world I think at this point but we managed between us 2 to listen to a small amount of the. The main things we need to hear I found out on that day that they would need to defend the tests to see if it spread anywhere. So that involves bone scans and c.t. Scans and they did say that I would need chemotherapy because if they tested the tumor or the biopsy by this point to know the type of cancer that it was so they said I would need to Mr x. Me and I would need chemotherapy and I think you know at that point they just said to me you will be needing to put your life on hold your your whole you know your work life your your social life everything for a year at least will have to be go on hold and I just remember going off to weddings the wedding the day I got brides but and that was my I don't know whether it's just my kind of. Trying to. Make life just normal but you know normalize things a little bit that's all I think about is what I was like how how how what people can do without me and I remember we got pulled into a little side room with an ass because the consultant any has that you know a short time with you we spoke about things a lot more and I remember just saying to Brad you need to call my dad. And he just said how I was like what you need to call him and he said what do I say is it just you need to come to know Ridge I don't know what to tell him don't tell him I've got breast cancer because it will freak him out but usually said he needs to come to Norwich now and he did it he phoned him up and he said Lori's in hospital you need to come to nourish now and my dad knew nothing he was apparently driving here thinking what has happened to her what's gone wrong you know is she Ok. But yeah I mean very surreal having to then tell him because I haven't prepared anybody informed anyone I got a lump so it was very unexpected I think. And as much as it was unexpected then because you'd been kind of so sure everything was Ok it was so unexpected for you how do you start a conversation with somebody and explain to them what's happening I can't remember how I did it for my my dad and even a couple my close friends who came around that evening but everyone else it took me a good few days to sort of come to terms with it myself not really terms that because you never really come to terms with it but to even be able to tell people and I think eventually I got someone else to do it because I just I think what you tell a few people the word spreads doesn't it I think I've made sure the key people knew and then I just let the kind of the world do its talking the trouble is when you've got cancer unless it's in a really late stage you generally don't feel unwell so I still felt fine you know. I was still the same Laura I was 24 hours before when I got the news and I think actually for me it wasn't until I began chemotherapy but I even felt like a cancer patient and it is so shrewd that it's not necessary the cancer that makes you poorly it's the treatment you have to combat the cancer and that was as I say that I think of the 1st time I really felt ill was when I began treatment at that time. With your family and friends is it really difficult to have the consolation because they don't understand is it really difficult to have the conversation because it's unexpected for them. You know I mean how did you feel for you did it feel like they didn't know how to react like how I think the family I think even now it's difficult because I think unless you are. Going through it yourself or going through it with someone who's very very close to you like you're living with them or you see them daily I think it's very hard for people to understand because actually you know it's so easy and I I did this a lot in life my probably diagnosis I probably you know I knew people coming over so pitiful face make poor and I didn't you know I made myself look better than I perhaps felt or you know needed to fail you know I could have been tucked in bed in my pj's and it probably would have mattered but for me I was very much like I want to be seen as coping. But they weren't there for the days where I had my head over the toilets are starting up or I couldn't sleep because of the pain I was in or you know needing that helped out throughout the day because they were living with me saying it is really really and that's not their fault at all but it is so so hard I think to understand what she really is like so actually the people who have gone through it you build up very very quick sort of friendships because being able to talk to somebody that really understands is so precious you said who's the 1st time the kind of fell or can you talk me 3. I say what it's like to go through it which I'm sure you know in no way can actually be conveyed but what is it like so I threw my 1st. So I had 6 sessions within my 1st Arkema therapy and 3 of them were one type of drug and 3 of them or another and. It's quite scary when someone I mean they they use the word poison because it literally is poison and you get this list of huge amount side effects are going to go and you don't know if you're going to get them all I think I got every single one of them. But it's things from I remember the 1st day of my 1st chemo within 4 hours of leaving the hospital I was throwing up like scared of not 3 not that bad in Probably since I was a child and it's that that sort of throwing up where you're crying it sometimes you just don't know you just don't know how to stop it and then you know you get the night sweats you get the. Real like horror people say it's like sucking on a penny and I've never stopped I mean I don't know but it's not real metallic you taste in your mouth everything tastes horrible so even remembers a child if you're sick you know you suck and I sweetie and it takes all that horrible taste away this doesn't take that takes away at all you just have it constantly and then the chemotherapy I was on unfortunate made me lose my hair and I think for me that that was the 1st time I really looked like a cancer patient I think you know the sickness things that you feel like it but you can still kind of pro-trade this look of a normal person but the hair thing I just remember knowing I was going to lose it I was terrified because of being a hairdresser there and I'd always had long hair and. I didn't know what I would look like bald. And I think some people had said oh it might not come out or model come out very quickly but then a lot of forums I'd read that it came out with a certain drug on day 13 so I remember day 12 I was pulling out my hair and it kind of the still there. And then the day 13 arrived and I remember waking up and I ran my hands through my hair and I just pulled out. This lump of hair without it wasn't pulling you know I dragged it out and I just felt sick I was just like right this needs to come off and I remember one of my friends we were sat together about an hour before we were due to go to the salon and she just said to me Your hair looks great now why are you getting rid of it now they're still loads of hair and I go and I just put my hand in my hair and I pulled it out and she just went. Because there was you know a huge company here in my hand and it was that moment I was like you know I need to do this for me because I need to take control I don't want cancer taking that control I don't want to lose it and started falling out in the supermarket or while I'm in bed then waking up with no hair I'd rather just get rid of it and I'm really glad I did because within I think 3 days of doing or literally I had nothing left on my head when I 1st had it shaved off there was a little shards of hair you could see the hairline still within 3 days there was nothing it was just patches of complete you know I was just so you know you've had you know chemotherapy you've had to treat what's kind of the next step and what happened next when she done all your sessions Yeah so the next step after chemo was the misstep to me again it was my 1st ever operation I've never I've never stayed in hospital how do you know this point I was 26 anything how do you feel as a 26 year old how do you prepare yourself for that but if you don't really prepare yourself for surgery I was I was just so nervous about things like that ascetic and everything I think because at that point I had especially because it was my breasts I doubt she. Began to hate it because I could feel there was a lump there it actually growing before I had the chemotherapy started to actually grow grew quite big. I think from when I initially found it a piece I used to when I start chemotherapy it was 5 and a half centimeters when I started chemo so I could feel it I could see it like if you laid on the side you could see this lump so I think the way I got around it was my body was trying to kill me it needs come off and that's all I kept on thinking up until a misstep to me I just said I tried not to think about respect to me while I had chemo because they always say just think about the here and now don't think about the next step because there's so much to think about otherwise so it wasn't really until about the last chemo that it start to begin to feel really real that I was going to have a misstep today and I've spoken to quite a lot of people who had had one as well so that really helped in that prepared me for a bit more. And I think because I felt so ill to chemo I was like anything is going to be better than having chemo and it was actually a misstep to me wasn't too bad I think the idea of living with one breast because I thought I could have immediate reconstruction because I was having radiotherapy as well so they wouldn't do him Egypt which meant I then had to have no baby so far side for about a year and I think that for me it was harder than actually knowing I was going to have the operation it was actually I didn't quite realize at that point how long I'd have to wait until after the radiotherapy to actually have the reconstruction so the idea of living with one breast was it did knock my confidence quite a lot I mean I think it's hard for people who haven't gone through it it must be incredibly hard for us to even kind of understand or imagine. So I suppose the people around you again like how how did they talk to you about it or do you just know it just the thing that's never mentioned I think some people found it really difficult because I actually had some people that just either didn't see me or didn't really speak to me because I think some people just don't know what to say and I don't blame them for that arms or person would rather you say something silly the not say anything but you know I probably in their shoes would have done the same I mean how do you how do you start asking someone's Ok when they just had 6 rounds of chemotherapy and now lost their breasts like it's really is a really weird one and I think because I was I was always known as a very girly girl I'd wear you know. I always had a decent set of boobs so I was quite proud of mine and sideways west of dresses that. Showed off a cleavage and things like that so I think I really say the confidence thing so it left me quite a lot and I found myself buying lots of things that covered me up a lot so actually people can really tell because from the clothes I wore in the way I put a procedures in the things that they can really tell us when lest someone really need or I spoke about it they wouldn't bring up. But I was I think from I think mostly about Midkemia I was quite open with my journey and I actually set up a Facebook page to I couldn't basically talk to everyone every appointment I had about what was going on so I just set up this Facebook page so I thought if you want to know up on there and I did and I think the same I was that's me you know I put I did put some photos on. You know I just thought you know what people if they don't see it they don't believe it as such so actually if I show it people then they can't kind of get away from not saying and so they then will maybe ask me the questions or at least that they'll acknowledge it's happened. That's a really brave thing to do You did it did you feel brave doing at the time or was it because you talk about it really actually a lot so then I you know I was just really open about this really honest about this and that must have made a huge difference to people in the same way it must've made a huge difference for you to be able to feel like you could say I think for me yeah it was a case that I earlier on in my diagnosis I was I said to myself I want to be quite open with this because there's 2 ways you can go you either show yourself in a corner and you cry for 9 months and you don't let anyone in or you go sort it I'm going to sort of inform people about the realities because actually if they don't see it they just forget it's happening and I think I really as someone who's 25 at the time I think I felt that actually do you know what people can learn quite a lot from this and if I can just help one person whether it's make them check their boobs or have more of an understanding what their friend might be going through or a family member you know if they can understand a little bit more just from what I speak about because there are people out there that don't talk about it or I know people that literally that day that get diagnosed to the day they finish treatment they do not talk about what is happening to them and I find that quite hard because I don't know how they could have got through it without talking about it in the sense that I found I got a lot of support back from talking about it and it might not be from my post Friends and family it might have been from people I found online in the support groups bar by talking about it and buying being open about it I felt more people were able to talk to me about it and be more open about it and that really helps. I think people don't really. Talk about radiotherapy that much but the side effects are a lot less than chemo but how does that differ from chemo classically it's made us yes I chemotherapy is an intravenous so injection that it's given to you with medication pumped into your your veins so it's. You know you're on drips and stuff at so you are getting liquid medication into your body radiotherapy is. Basically a beam a laser beam or a radio I don't know how to explain that to be in but it is being done to the area of the cancer say mine was on the chest area so it was all over the. Saw From the bottom of my ribs up to the collarbone and. This happens consecutively over 5 days over the 3 weeks so I was in 5 days a week then had weakened off 5 days a week for the weekend off and then another week so. Yeah every day and it's only about 1520 minutes that you haven't seen Basic go in Lanham machine and this machine sort of comes over you and then basically starts beaming you with radio waves whatever they do to you which actually. People said to me at beginning they said it will be fine it won't hurt which is great it doesn't hurt natural processes fine you get to about the 13th day of having it and my skin began to go red quite red and then literally after you finish the treatment it starts to blister and the only way I can describe it because of there's no visual thing here is. Imagine putting an iron on to your chest and holding it for 5 seconds and taking off you literally end up with what I would class as a burn and. It's that kind of shape is well it's kind of you want to look like you've got an eye on your chest and the skin when red raw or you know it was peeling you just can't anywhere you can my clothes properly for a few days yes where everything is really like loose but what people didn't prepare me for what I was approached for is actually how tired you get afterwards and the womb took probably 4 to 6 weeks to heal and this is after a situation finished and within that time I absolutely hit rock bottom fatigue wise I was so tired I couldn't do anything and I think at that point I was just wanting to get on with life and I think I had prepared myself for the facts because I was like as far as I was where my treatment was finished you know the main comma treatments finished so I was I wanted to get on with life and I just felt exhausted so it really took me quite a while to recover from that point small one when people you know when you're aiming for the end of treatment and he would think this is the end of your treatment you think it's going to be this big celebration yes treatment then it must then just be like seriously you prevented that that you are healing process must just you must just feel that please can it's just be only it's a massive area case I mean I actually still had a bit more troops go excite was on a injection could have stepped in for a year as well so I started that in when I made my chemo I think so that they went on till the May of 2015 so got none of that none of my reconstruction could happen at this point I had to wait a year after my radiotherapy for that so I knew I would have to weigh my perception finished in the May of 2015 so yes I threw. A big party in June in the June of 2015 I had it was call my 5050 shades of pink party so everyone came in different I know pink that cliche with breast cancer but I just you know or I'm going to dare and everyone dressed up in pink layers we had pink Bunting of different colors hung up and it was a really good party and it was a really nice way of me bringing everyone that has helped and actually looking back the amount of people that came to that party who I had only met through my cancer so it's probably like half friends and family and half people I knew since I mean cancer which was amazing because actually it shows how supportive the cats community is. And they've all become really really good friends of mine so it was lovely to be able to actually celebrate and to. The time I thought waving goodbye for good. Well that wasn't the end of Laura's story and next week we'll be hearing how a secondary diagnosis led her to create a list of experiences to do with friends and family one of the things Laura has also gone on to do is share her experience online she regularly price about the reality of life with cancer through her Instagram account you can find her if you look on Instagram for the handle at Baby listen beautiful but she's also just started a new project secondary sisters with a friend Nikki Newman and the 2 of them are increasing Jackson's show this coming Tuesday to talk all about it so make sure you listen in and hear more about their amazing work to raise awareness so we're going to play you another track this is boys in the battle and by fountains Daisey. Well thank you so much for having my family pricing them to safe a little and I'm sure that you've had a very enjoyable evening listen to the show just as I have being here and doing it so we have had a huge array of guests and we start with a tango lesson from as I've been of r. And also had very thin talking about the whale and I gather in that daunts and movement exhibition which is coming up and then we had for many bad about how beautiful jewelry we have. All of a Joycean talking about communication with children I mean I'm Villar i Reporter data a brilliant pace from the broads about the wife. Pamela as always and then we just had the most inspiring interview with Laura Middleton about her life a living lists I thank you so much for having me I'm back next week I see that. I have never. Tried to. A minute please and Minnesota Cleary any Lucy to receive your report is when the pre me down on can clear where b. Is better with brown where you're going for me don't. 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