The aim is to take away some of the known clinical workload from doctors giving the more time for patients Tracey pull out is from one nor it which oversees 22 G.P. Practices in and around the city they can manage software ferals that needs to take place they can take cells minutes basically act a bit like a P. A for G.P. Alleviate as much pressure from them as they can will fix any Labor M.P. Has been accused of behaving like an assumption ist bully boy in the Commons and in the minister Claire Perry made the claim about Clive Lewis the M.P. For north south of the PAC clashed during a row over climate change Mr Lewis waved his arms in mock horror as the minister suggested he practiced his rhetoric in front of the bathroom mirror and later Claire Perry suggested his behavior was unacceptable Mr Speaker what we do on this side of the house despite 1st by the banks was a hire car it was. He was speeding he was very clear but he wasn't a massaging this bully boy I think you see he's got activity in behavior today suggest quite the opposite. Great Yarmouth Council says more than 200 people gave their views on plans for a new leisure complex for Great Yarmouth see front of a 2 week consultation finished today the team behind the design will now consider the feedback before giving a final design to full council on the 23rd of April the campaign from Cromer has welcomed prospect of more adapted toilets of people with special educational needs or disabilities coming to Norfolk County councilors will decide next week whether to spend around a quarter of a 1000000 pounds on 7 Changing Places toilets the county has 8 at the moment but they are mostly in orange and Great Yarmouth and respect no one has 2 autistic children and is working on making more of these places widely available she's approached businesses and parliaments clear discos of both rolling out lots of training and talking to a really small farm out they can do it that's the reason why they are currently there is a consultation going on down in government talk about changing the building regulations for larger businesses so that we have to have change in braces I mean that's where we were you know the global competition is being launched for the prize that is out of this world scientists in the Czech Republic are offering people the chance to become the 1st human to speak to Earth from another planets recordings of 11 voices will be chosen flown to Mars next year on board the joint European and Russian Exo Mars mission and broadcast back here B.B.C. Radio Norfolk news now the sports headlines his war Butler thanks Sophie no shitty youngster Antony Spyro has joined Conference Premier side Wroxham online until the end of the season they are under $23.00 strikers play 15 games in Premier League 2 for the canary so far this season scoring 7 goals kings in towns play off credentials will be tested tonight and I welcome 6 placed our church in the walks in the southern premier central elsewhere at Lowestoft town can take a huge step towards safety by beating her also in a home the trial of boys beat fellow strugglers and me it's town 31 on Saturday Jake Reid scoring a hat trick in that one coverage of claims in the game at 7 lots of games and then sorry. It's been sort of fun and games Thank you Rob We will have the latest weather with you in just a moment but 1st the travel. B.B.C. Radio Norfolk travel and I've a travel studio for us of the finals on the C Evening Sam Very well thanks very much well it's still a very busy insane Olive's for the A 143 that's queuing in both directions approaching haring fleet right and that's because of right Max which is still causing some delays there in North Walsham and it's slow for the A 149 both ways around Norwich right that's also because of right works and in Swaffham water main works are still causing some delays and that's on London streets both ways around White Cross wrote a good service is running on the trains if you see anything or can update me cool over 803897321. We'll meet this week's Tuesday guest in just a moment but 1st the weather with Julie range Well overnight tonight it's going to be largely dry with many cloudy skies and a few clear spells we might just get a little bit of drizzle out of the thick a cloud and it's going to be a milder night than last night with low temperatures of $6.00 to $8.00 Celsius so frost free with light west to south westerly winds and we keep a very gentle breeze during tomorrow too so Wednesday the vernal spring aqueducts is looking a milder mainly cloudy day with highs of 14 to 17 Celsius 57 to 63 Fahrenheit they'll be some sunny intervals that's where we're going to get those highs temperatures so it should feel very pleasant in any sunshine then Thursday and Friday remaining mild and mainly cloudy with some further intervals of sunshine patchy rain is that expected to spread eastward during Friday night courtesy of a cold front but for some of us that might just mean an increasing cloud but that hopefully will be out of the way for the weekend so Sassan Sunday at the moment are looking dry days with some decent Sunny's bells but it will feel cooler as the winds go more northerly both still think for some of those temperatures will be a little bit above average which is about 10 Celsius at the time of year in something perhaps something closer to sort of 11 or 12 degrees Celsius Good evening your listening. The teatime show on B.B.C. Radio Norfolk with Paul Hayes in for Matthew Gutman it's a Tuesday evening it's just after 6 and so it's time to meet this week's Tuesday Guest My guest this week grew up in London where his grammar school years coincided with the 2nd World War He's worked in publishing as a teacher and lived in Cyprus and Singapore but for the past 50 years or so has made Norfolk his home a keen photographer he spent many years involved with a local photography club in Norwich my guest this week is Ken Milne Ken welcome to the program welcome. Thanks so much for coming in and you've lived quite an interesting life just not without round there but let's go go way back to your your very early years you were born in London where you yes I was born in very new to Peckham why and what are your severely memories of growing up in London some of the 1st things you remember about the world as it was then well it was of course very peaceful very quiet it was a very good part of London with not a lot of traffic. And yet my life 1st memories are weirdly. Of leaving Peckham and going in the 5 years before the war started in. Going with my family to Gholston instead of the usual course of people living in London used to go to Brighton in the south for reason I don't know Margate in that sort of we would take what I was taken being an only child I was taken to Gholston and I and I was there for 2 weeks each of $934.00 to 1938 so what are your memories of Gholston in the in 1930 S. Well. It was ideal for. It was ideal for me because. There was that lovely sense of actually going away from London and also. When I got there that be true cost and was shallow inviting and. Has hardly changed in the intervening years so it's a nice last out of experience for you when you get the chance to go back to go yes I often do now it's. Take people there and say you know this is almost an altered whole sections of it I could I could identify completely and we might come back this a bit later on in your story but do you think those early experiences in Norfolk were part of the reason why you would want to come and live here little yes I think they were it always seemed to me a restful and peaceful place and a very happy few years there just those fortnightly jaunts may mention of course it being a very peaceful time and your happiness there in the 19th that is but of course when you were 10 years old the 2nd world war started to do you do you remember the day that the war began very very clearly because. I must say I was a intelligent 10 year old well aware of what was happening in the world and we used to listen so closely to the radio and hear the accounts from Germany in what was happening happening in Czechoslovakia and. So. When the out wake of war actually came I was one of those people who was with my mother and father and the other people who lived in our house and listening to the declaration of war by Mr Chamberlain and I can still remember the. Fear for local My parents face knowing it was it was happening and oddly enough we found out it was a false alarm but within 2 or 3 minutes of that broadcast of the outbreak of war the air raid sirens went off and. My mother looked at my father and said Don't say it started already but in fact it turned out to be a false alarm for the area somebody had pulled Walsh which we're going to talk a bit more about your memories of the war very shortly and that indeed you've chosen a sound rather than piece of music which will come to you in a moment but as always on this part of the program we ask you to choose some piece of music to bring in so our thought perhaps here we come to your 1st music choice which is actually an excerpt from a ballet I think is in there yes it's reveals it's from Move L's definition Chloe music I wanted you decide well I chose it because. I 1st heard it. About a few months after the war ended when a friend of mine had got a work old play or gramophone in. Boat somewhere codes and the music that came out of it was so different in failing to the feeling in the war the darkness and the. Jane would really nice and this music seemed to me to be glinting and glowing with sound and it's always been one of my favorite pieces of music of his Ince. An exit from the opening section of the office and Chloe by Ravel the fast choice of our guest. This week Ken Mehlman and can you explain before we played that he chose that because it represented few sense of the optimism in almost the kind of rebirth of the end of the war but if we go back to the beginning of the war many people when they think of the history and children living in London at the outbreak of the 2nd World War they think of evacuees and the children having to leave London but but you stayed in the city throughout the war didn't you yes I did and it is a misunderstanding to think that all the children in London were evacuated parents did have a choice and some decided that their children should stay with them but that meant that. Myself and other children some of whom who had won a county scholarship to a grammar school in London were left behind when their schools were evacuated and so the council the London County Council decided to form an emergency grammar school in one building that would take all this was your view of children from the other 12 grammar school was in the air and they chose the building that I was going to any right Allianz of Delhi which And I was due to start that in September of $940.00 and of course that was just at the time that the Battle of Britain was at its height and we were . Observing that from ASCO the end of the dogfighting in the sky over London but at that stage the bombing hadn't yet started so the point was it was frightening always always exciting to see these dogfights taking place frankly it was exciting because it was. Quite a long way off the. Trails in the sky and the sound of the planes and. Occasionally we were lucky enough in being children to find a bit of scrap metal from one of the planes that had been damaged or fallen or bit of shrapnel we'd collect those as if they would you would found in the street I'm sure you've probably heard people say this to you before Ken but I'm now picturing your your early childhood as a model if you've seen the film Battle of Britain from the 1960 S. But the scene with the 2 little London boys arguing about what the planes are there and owing colds Mattia Smith sawing coals now they measure Smith That's right that was really quiet week who together and that of course in a very short space of time because the Battle of Britain was more or less declared over about September the 15th and almost directly after that the night bombing started the blitz in other words had started and. As some of you know apart from Sweden to ease. About Christmas because of bad weather the bombers didn't come but otherwise it was 86 nights of continuous bombing which I witnessed everyone do you have a memory of that 1st night of bombing when it perhaps 1st really came home to you the affair and the danger of the war yes I think it did because I could see the. Area of my parents and it was quite a strange thing to see particularly after the 1st couple of nights and we were at house was about 2 miles from the center of London but we had a view across the tops and. Own I think the 3rd night of the bombing the. Bomb was hit mine leads the team be odds that were along the riverside. In Bermondsey and well the highs and the how sky we could just see as a clothing weighed those 2 miles away with smoke coming up and did you often have to take shelter did you have a Anderson shelter in the garden or did you go to a T.V. Station or would you know me to where I there were there were no underground tubes in southeast London so there you doubt. But people gardens were a reasonable size so we had an Anderson shelter built. A metal curved metal structure that was dug partly into the ground. But people might think they were quite big but in fact. The Anderson was only 2 meters long by about one and a half meters wide not much more than a large sized. Hearth rug and in that we slipped 2 and 04 adults I should say and 2 children. It was the sardine like existence and I think during the course of the war. I must have spent $600.00 nights under those conditions the night so I was and there were when we knew there was a loud in the bombing which was sometimes of several months in length before it started up again must not a very strange talk as of right now 5 years from 199045 it exactly coincided with your your 2nd be scoring so you went from a child of 11 to a young adult really of 16 so you really really grew up with the war or around you yes and that was particularly so. A little later in the war the aerial bombing had for to a large extent stopped just the occasional heavy or he'd lost in perhaps 2 or 3 nights but. In 2. $944.00 the invasion of Europe started of course D.-Day. And school was terribly excited at that point we. Felt the headmaster decided to call it opened and we could play football all day long or cricket whatever we wanted to that day. And everybody thought. This was really the beginning of the end but week later we heard this strange noise overhead couldn't identify to toll for it was seemed to be like an aircraft on fire an object passing overhead with. A tile of fire coming out of it and it wasn't until the next day. We'd seen this happen 45 times during the night and the next day we were allies this was the 1st of the German V. One flying bombs coming in and from that time that was where we felt the greatest involvement and the greatest danger doodlebugs as they went on Yes they were no but that was a sort of invented name it's one that people can like Roy the press yeah they call do I think it was the old old business of making them sound not as old for as they were it's interesting that you say that I think it might be a little surprise for you found the the ones more frightening than the of the mass bombing from the last yes because the mass bombings of the planes at least had a target because. They could fly as a guiding part. Down the River Thames as they cross the coast the whole of the Thames they just flew up the Thames and then you could you know a lot of bombs fell on either side of course but with the ones they were coming up over the coast a different way. Passing over Dover almost impossible to stop them because they travelled 400 miles an hour to very low altitude and. They fell I would say primarily in southeast London and. They. Coming constantly that was the point that stage they weren't even put in the air raid sirens only because there was there was no beginning and no into them I should say on an average night. There would be surgery or 40 coming in and they each carried a very a bomb load of about of about one tourney each and you've chosen 10 we asked people to use 6 pieces of music if you for the team for the guest lot but you've chosen 5 piece of music and now in this particular instance a sound you've chosen the sound of the siren and of the V. Want to be sung that people might think well why would you want to choose that why would you want to remember that since the one of you tries in the dark to hear this I have chosen it because even now the sound of those 2 things together I find even after all these years extremely chilling we. Had warning a shelf. Was. A pretty terrible shell and but those who experienced the ones know that when the war when the engine cut out. The plane would lose momentum and dive to the ground but you always had about 10 seconds gap between the engine cat and finally diving into the ground but you had about 10 seconds. Will have an out of sound of the air right fire and of the one I have just cut the sign it's down a little bit on this just because we probably can get away with having 10 seconds of silence on the right over the still a bit of the sonnets in there so you will get some of the idea of how that sound. Sound of the flying bomb the V. One from the 2nd World War before that the air raid siren the 2nd choice of my guest this week Ken Mehlman can obvious you were 16 years old when the war came to an end so you were getting towards the time when had it continued You might have had to fight when we was a teenager were you hoping it would carry on long enough that you could become involved or were you hoping it would finish before you got old enough to take part IOW I think myself and all my friends were very glad that it was. That it came to an end before we had to go. We've really seen enough and heard enough over the years and we were absolutely delighted when it did finally end but it was just after we left school. I left school on. Peace was declared in new about middle of my eyes maybe 8 for the main Diego Yes Yes that's right and. We left school on July the 23rd my 16th birthday as well and. Isn't it strange that the associations with that school and all of my friends who'd lived through this together. I went home that evening and cried my eyes out well we'll come to what you then went on to do in just a moment Ken but we should probably hear your next music choice. The Modern Jazz Quartet you've chosen and the particular piece is round about midnight What was the chosen this one of the next was this was music that we all had a general interest in and we used to go to one another's houses for work or. To listen to her cause this is a little later modern jazz was beginning to come in say towards the $950.00 S. And this is just an example of an early piece of modern jazz it's very approachable . Round about midnight by the Modern Jazz Quartet the 3rd record choice of this week's Tuesday guest Ken Milne we'll hear much more from Ken picking up on his life after the 2nd World War Once we heard the latest sport it's $630.00 and his robot. B.B.C. Radio folks a. B.B.C. Radio folks. I will start with football knowledge city youngster Anthony Spyro has joined Wrexham online until the end of the season the under $23.00 structure has played 15 games in Premier League 2 for the canary so far this season scoring 7 goals Kingsley in towns play off credentials will be tested tonight with a welcome 6 place Alva Church of the walks in the southern premier central the limits who sit 3rd will be looking to keep the 5 point gap between them and tonight's visitors have 2 games in hand elsewhere at Lowestoft can take huge step towards southern premier central safety by beating high also in home tonight the trawler boys beat fellow strugglers certainly it's time for you one Saturday Jay great scoring a hat trick in that one manage it Jamie got bar prices support by having to. He wants to see more of the same crime meadow this evening they were absolutely fantastic. The clay show well Saturday don't stop so you get a week off to really get started so you've made it so. That it stops thinking the whole talk about weight and date that rock rock. That I get the other say that I really do push aside that we very grateful Well it's a busy night of local football fight in town or in the 3rd and only Cup semifinal at Newmarket sound so oftentimes what attempt to join Halston town in the final of the 1st Division knockout cup the peddler's are home to Holland F.C. In their semi final there's news and coverage of all those games on the game tonight from 7 o'clock with Phil Daly England captain Harry Kang says they're excited to have Chelsea's Callum Hudson authority with the squad the 18 year old got his 1st senior call up yes that I all 23 players of trying to head of the year are 2020 qualifiers against the Czech Republic on Friday and finally at this summer's Ashes England's cricketers will have their names and squad numbers on the show it's for the 1st time in Test history that's the latest sport the saving on. Sunday break fast people come here seeking solace and healing and that's wonderful and to my best to them Sunday mornings from 6 according to all belief sex education should be you know. It's need make it's compulsory to worry comes exploring faith culture and community. Of my grandparents I never knew any of them in our country it's not generally socially acceptable to make places called a generic racist views for there are times when our particularly since breaks it where it's coming to the surface and becoming more explicit on the surface Sunday breakfast and any ice eggs on B.B.C. Radio no part of them being. It was really a measure of education being so different time to those circumstances. We had never heard of who is Masters or anybody guiding us into work 2 masters just stood at the door in the last guy and said cheerio my own hope you get on well and that was the last that was the only help we got to hold finding a job did you have a particular Bishan about times that you want to do now I didn't I. Several of my friends who had left the previous year had got jobs in advertising agencies and the print and advertising seemed to be the place to look. I wrote off to a few places and I finally all quite easily got a job at a big technical publishers who published the old and dozens of journals of that nature and it was a very happy working environment and fascinating for me because there was no I joined a place where. People would just beginning to come back from the war people who'd been in the war and now we're coming back into the office and they had such stories to tell and so many interesting things that they like telling like as we often hear about that generation that Tommy they didn't like to talk about what happened the war with their families so much perhaps most of mine did they would and. And they were more mature obviously than myself and I learned so much from him and I was very happy teach working there but after nearly 10 years there I was married and. I decided I might like a change of employment so I did a 2 year teacher training course and then went on to teach in London in south London for 5 years before I got an offer to teach in the British service schools in Cyprus where I stayed if 4 years in Cyprus. I came back to Norfolk to live for a year and then I got another offer to teach inching up or for 3 years we will come to your overseas exports in a moment but I'd want to ask to see people might know that's a national service carried on for some years office like a mob or so it's like you're not caught up with overnight no. It did it did carry on for several years but and you all had to have a medical and I never know why but they said to me I had a slight heart. And decided I wasn't fit well here I am should alive and perfectly fit so. I think I think it was very good that I didn't get chosen. So in Cyprus where you was that's a teaching the children of people serving the forces out of us by that really coincides with your last question because. Several years after the war a national service was finished and to replace it they had to have professional soldiers a professional army and a and well it was always provisional in the Air Force but that meant that you had to provide education for the children of professional soldiers and. So yes in Cyprus I was working with the Army. Units that were stationed in Cyprus who used to go out most of them a new was to know that Africa still and it was a very happy time for me as they spent 4 years out as they always enjoyed it was it was your choice to come back into the postings of the Continental the postings were of a limited a limited nature they were only for 3 years but I got I got of years extension on the end of it and. Because they wanted to teach is who were constantly up to the latest standard so they'd it wasn't a coup error to be in the services but you had officers status and it was really a very nice place to teach people how to salute you and what you say no no no you didn't really wear the uniform but you were that was the status. Of the pie and the pay yes that was it it much better than much better than teaching in England. And a lovely place to live of course but. That too had its problems which seemed to follow me around because. After I'd been there a year the and the intercom and all fire fighting between the Greek community and the Turkish community started and as we had our. Children who were living in lawmaker. The school children that is. We had to see that they was safely delivered to the school each day well the fighting was going on between the 2 groups and I was responsible for when I was in the trench board for that which was of taxing job but most interesting we mentioned how after that you land up living in Norfolk with some of the you stayed there in the past your summer holidays and cost of it will come to that in a moment but we should hear now your 4th choice and this one is an opening score from the film the odd man out yes OK I just say this was because foo was so important to is doing the war because none of the cinemas were closed and we went 345 times a week from a 943 to after the war I think British cinemas that did record box office during the war I think yes and this one is a Bush a film made just after the war but from a director. Whom I like very much and this was a film with. James Mason in it 947 film and the score is super very gloomy. But this is how it starts. a. Section of an e-mail wins opening score for Carroll reads film odd man out from 1947 the 4th choice of my guest this week Ken Mehlman before we play that chemist explaining how he'd been teaching in Cyprus and then it was after that came when you 1st decided to come and live in Norfolk what prompted that choice well. It was more than anything else financial we'd we'd left to and controlled flat in London and and. I. Decided to find some way that was relatively cheap in financial terms to to. To buy say with your wife the state yes and we. Chose point land because it was I knew the area I knew nor did it will new knowing Gholston and I wasn't moving completely somewhere I didn't know and. On and off I've been employing land ever since I did have children of the state as well as me less which was a good move on one thanks the wife no children which we should we should give them a mansion. Well. My wife was sterilized. And. She has since died and I had 2 sons. Who were gretly really the oldest one who is 33. 25 years ago he was killed in a car accident and. But my younger son is now a professor at Sydney University so the teaching Gene was obviously passed on there I think to some extent and with your teaching here in Norfolk when he moved here yes I told him prying them primaries who for 13 years so the lots of people listening who will remember Mr Mehlman the whole yes indeed I'm sure there are I constantly get it on the bus people come up to me and say it's restroom isn't it and is a bit like a list of chips when you have to say I have taken my Because of course I remember you were a boy almost almost. I would say I was a happy time in front of them but after a brief interaction you've went abroad again for a while for yes. I was I went to under the same terms with. The services but this time it was with the R.F. I went to Singapore for 3 years that was fascinating again because. It was such a different environment obviously from Cyprus and I was with the R.F. With the lightning scored runs and there were so many English children getting full time education my. Tango air base where I was I had. A school build on to the airfield that the primary school contained 1100 people was why now all children of the crews and pilots and stuff. And if you take your family out there with your oh yes and I say you're on our O.E.M.'s and it was a lovely time again did the rest and find it exciting being in these places with you and interesting to have a sort of different experience Oh yes yes indeed if into things and. Singapore was a little bit wearing poorly because of the climate I mean it's so humid for a lot of the air that really was a little wearing at times but that's the only the only query about it and then you came back again and back to Portland to games yes indeed and we had joy from planning to come back to north as always were you going to come back together for 3 years we did have a boy when we moved away from Portland went into no age for 10 years I lived just down. At the end of Bishop Bridge Road So it's you up the city yeah. And we teaching in there are knowledge as well more and no you know by that time I had taken very early retirement. Which I. Was 52 school numbers were winding down at that stage and so. They offered several of us older members of staff early retirement which I took and retired to nearly 40 years I know his Yes So I'm very pleased if I did I had a nice life so a lot of people live they worry about when they retire how we're going to fill the days and so forth but I'm get I'm guessing that was something that your photography helped with yes that does that that is how how did that 1st come into our passion for photography Well that was. A number of a Smain the older people went to a photography class. Held in or each along the riverside have forgotten the name of it now. And we got interested in to show ID to in the end to set up a little club of Arizona and it's continued since although it's running a bit short of members now mainly through age that's they were what's the name of the club and the noise photographers and you put on exhibitions about 30 years even right now is that right yes we have but the the chances to do so a lessening because the number of. Exhibition places in no age. Mainly priced pricing pushing us out. Well we'll talk a little bit the moment perhaps about your particular talk interests and what you'd like to take photographs of but we come to open ultimate record choice Now it's interesting that are pretty recent history to people here but I wouldn't necessarily always expect that some of your generation to choose a record by 970 is progress band but we've got here a Genesis track sets to tell us about this particular choice well my my eldest son he was into arc I've always been into jazz I got into rock too and I mean I've got work or a lot of people don't expect me to have I mean I've got Pink Floyd and. Genesis of course and some obscure groups like George division and. All. I can't move some of the names but there's a whole range of molten rock that I've got and they saw this I liked in particular and this is from their life album seconds out as the final track was called loss and why this particular track what is it when each I delight to play the whole lot of it but it's a lovely. Lovely Jane to something I feel. Thea Lausanne DOS by Genesis the final track of 977 I think a lot of album seconds out the penultimate record choice of my guest this weekend male and there are very few groups I think came where you can say they've got very distinctive drama you can recognise but you can definitely cross Phil Collins drumming on that Carney engage you can yes yes child I feel I've always been a fan of theirs and I still play their overcoats frequently some is music they've always been something that's been very important through what are you mentioned earlier about how you stats are shared jazz records with friends and that sort of yes it has pain it's. Been an abiding love of mine although I don't have any. In a musical track training or anything that I've just like a lot of odd pieces of music I've been tempted to take up an instrument itself no I haven't I haven't the still time yes there is if I've got Lou if I've got the L.F. To do it. Well somebody's got plenty left in you to me you're mentioning when we were speaking off air before we began this recording that you sometimes need to talk specifically about your your your memories of the water yes yes I have done it to quite a few local organizers Asians and and and groups. And. The only thing is very very difficult to find anything to illustrate it with except for still photos because of course one could have no photographic or hold of it during the war years you just couldn't use cameras or you know not to be seen doing anything like that it was and even the papers were very limited to there were porting you you would get no accounts of actual damage at any one place or some. Really bad explosion that happened it was always you know there was enemy activity last night and some damage was done to the southwest or the southeast of London and. But not very much detail you talked about photography there of course you mentioned you're passion for photography do you have particular subjects you enjoyed your joy photographing buildings or people landscapes sort of particular interest and just just a general interest going out of photographing things when we can and it is very easy going together now and and he one of these people he's very keen on the traditional film way of doing or have you moved into into the digital camera into digital now but with our abiding love for the old style cameras in a way. That used to do your own developing did you have a darkroom Yes at one stage but now of course it's all digitally do you think that's almost made it sort of too easy to think for someone or do you think it's nice there's so many people who could take well with it or we've varying opinions on it we were a is and Sim relative simplicity of. Digital work but. Some of us have a hankering for the old time developing the sort of what with any kind of analog way of doing things think there is an romance to it isn't there yes yes which is why all my music is in. Hold and I've recently got myself some new Hi-Fi gear specifically for myopia were called which where you're very doing very well on that because there was a period so about 20 years ago where where what sort of stuff was going out you couldn't get it so much but now voiceless become part fashionable dancers pretty much easier to get the kids again now yes yes it is it is indeed. Well Ken it's been absolutely fascinating to talk to you and I'm sure the listeners will agree as well and I'm sure this as I mentioned small peoples of yours in pouring in Probably probably listening in and enjoying it as well but some we're coming towards the end of our time and right so I have to ask you for your 6th and final record choice and it's another of L.P.'s I started was Rivero and I'll go out was Ravel he has been I think a abiding love of mine the composer whose work generally I prefer to to any others and this is just. Very different from the other music I've played today it's a very it's one of his piano pieces and it's just going out of her quiet can meditative note and you have to do the prophecy ation on this for me because I care about the pianist is Louis Lawtey is that right and the piece is called. Other osu Trieste by Paul to be wrong as are 3 sad birds there we go so this is the final choice Ken Mehlman thank you very much for being our guest this week delighted to vain here it's been overly nice experience. Louie Lossie with one of Ravel solo piano pieces the final choice of this week's Tuesday guest Ken Mehlman if you missed any of that you can hear the Tuesday guest lot again on Sunday at 1 o'clock stay tuned because Phil dial is up next and we have full live coverage of kings in town the al the church from of the war X. . Norfolk news no Africa might. Do you see maybe no 5. Thank you. B.B.C. News at 7 I'm more wrong than the European Union's chief praxis negotiator says the U.K. Could still crash out without a formal agreement in 10 days time to reason why it's writing to Brussels to ask for an extension to BRICS it until the end of June with an option for 2 year delay but Michel Barnier says no deal is still a strong possibility last week out of governments voted against the rich through agreement and gave no deal but voting against no deal does not prevent it from happening everyone should know finalize or preparations for an ordeal or do you side we are prepared to men have been arrested over the deaths of 3 teenagers who died in a crash outside a hotel in county to run C.C.T.V. Footage shows as many as 400 people queuing outside the Greenvale hotel in Cookstown on Sunday night when the incident happened the man of being held on suspicion of corporate manslaughter officials fear thousands of people have died after a cyclon hit Mozambique Malawi and Zimbabwe rescuers are trying to reach those affected the British government is sending 6000000 pounds worth of aid the High Commission of America's I'm big in the U.K. Is fully paid to do Mo what is required exactly is the mains to rescue the people that are trapped in their houses in trees or elsewhere and that to proper assistance is provided to the needy this includes what code medicines illiteracy and so on and so what the government's strategy for tackling knife crime has been described as inadequate by a former chief inspector of Constabulary so Denis O'Connor has told the Home Affairs Select Committee the current policy is more concerned with narrative and less with action the stationery chain office outlets has gone into administration putting 1200 jobs at risk. It says demand for its products is falling but all of its 90 stores will stay open while a buyer is found employment in the U.K. Has reached record levels in the 3 months to January 32700000 people were in work official figures also show average weekly earnings increased by more than 3 percent and bees are advising concert goers not to buy tickets from the real.