As you say. Good afternoon the time is 4 o'clock here on b.b.c. Radio Merseyside the latest news now from Charlotte foster good afternoon James builders' mother says she'll be making a formal complaint to the probation service after she was told that one of us son's killers was back in jail just hours before the story was reported in the media in a statement Denise Fergus says Jon Venables arrest last week on suspicion of possessing images of child abuse proves beyond any doubt it was a vile perverted psychopath he has always been but she adds that she felt insulted after finding out about it only last night Venables was released on license in 2001 having served 8 years for killing James but he was jailed again in 2010 accessing images of child abuse Albert Kirby is the tech did the former detective who investigated James murdered in 1993 says Denise focus should have been told about this latest development sooner is not rocket science for some reason. Without a warrant to news know what's coming out in the press because that goes back to live with us or live she's rebuilt our she's got 3 lovely boys but always at the back ground is there and sure music goodness somebody should about the nerves to say I was in Russia decency you should let him know investigations are continuing after a massive brawl in Liverpool city center last night 10 men 8 from Germany are currently being questioned by police fighting broke out between door staff and members of the public in concert square leaving one man in hospital with a head injury Chief Inspector Paul court is in charge of local policing for Liverpool the investigation still as early stages at the moment some were not sure what sparked. The disorder we came to speak to people who were in concert yesterday evening maybe saw what took place and can assist in explaining why this disorder took place and Riva bus passengers on Merseyside and across the northwest face more strikes next month after drivers rejected the company's latest pay off now that means $9.00 days of disruption in December including a 4 day walkout in the run up to Christmas Eve Howard Farrow is managing director of the buses in mercy side he says the author of 2.6 percent rising to 3 percent is fair the industry a long time in its. Damage along with history goes on you know the time was to large ships what it does to customers and. I'm just of the stuff that we work as well which I haven't any good at all so I hope to get resolved very very shortly Everton and peel ports have formally signed an agreement for the club to lease land Bramley more dark lace which is conditional upon gaining planning consent for the proposed new stadium and securing funding for its construction will run for a period of 200 years at a peppercorn rent the signing of the agreement is a significant milestone in the project and means Everton effectively now controls the land upon which a new stadium would be built your weather feed in cold and windy for the rest of today staying cold overnight to have temperatures dropping to 3 Celsius so that means you'll be waking up to a frost 1st thing tomorrow will be few showers around too but there will be since some spells of some lovely winter sunshine as well highs of 7 Celsius b.b.c. Radio. B.b.c. Radio Mazzy Star thanks very much Charlotte it's Thursday afternoon how we doing Ok while coming to drive time will round up all the day's news for you between now and 6 o'clock on the way then Jon Venables is back in prison after being caught allegedly with child. We'll be hearing from a former detective. About there's a match in Liverpool city center last night Merseyside Police are trying to find out what caused it we'll get the latest from them and what do you Bradley Walsh Shane Richie and Alexander strong have in common Well apart from the t.v. Career is there. I'm strictly. Back. At this time of year will discuss start as well. With. The man. In the shop I don't want to. Give you. A man. Says while. The span of attention. Alan. Let's. See. If you. Can. Stick Mr. Hughes for. Us. You. Anyway. Later on in the program this is quite interesting I know there's a documentary on the telly recently with Alan Shearer and it concerns a football and the impact that has particularly in of dementia and things like that will they're now going to do a study of around $15000.00 former professional footballers to determine what the long term impact of having a football is but it opens up a whole debate about you know whether children should be allowed to head to football when they play and you know whether it should be outlawed from kids football that kind of thing so we'll discuss in a little while. The time is nearly 10 past 4. Happy Days been going Ok So far our main news than the saf the news in the mother of murdered toddler James Bulger has accused the probation service of a cover up after one of his killers was recalled to prison suspected of having child abuse images on his computer Jon Venables was sent back to jail last week but Denise Fergus says she was only told about it last night Venables and Robert Thompson were 10 years old when they killed James in 1993 they were released on parole in 2001 but 9 years later Venables was jailed again after he was caught with child abuse images when he was released for a 2nd time in 2013 Denise Fergus warned Eastoe posed a risk to the public Albert Kirby as a former detective who worked on the James Bulger investigation he told our reporter Porter Phil Cooper he wasn't surprised to hear Venables had been arrested again I've always had very very grave concerns about the boy from Latino 93 when they murdered James and then if you followed is lifestyle that we know about us in the problems he was facing and then ultimately having 2 years for child pornography offenses I think is very very concerning or when I heard that this morning knowing about paedophilia behavior I was in the least bit surprised I think it is it is quite clear of us say there was a very serious sexual element involved in James's murder and I was felt over the years that the authorities and those who were taking care of him really seemed to give lip service to that part of it and not consider it to be an informant an important feature despite having highlighted it on many many occasions so this is some that you raised at the time and then later on I raised it at the time it was in the evidence it was in the court papers it was the evidence that I was submitted to the Home Office years and years ago and I just feel that it was not responded to in the correct way he was released on license in 2001 Jon Venables wasn't any Should he have been released at that point well if you follow his lifestyle through from from when he came out. It was ridiculous that the Pero board should have a loud him to live so close to the Merseyside boundary and preclude him from coming in but when you follow his lifestyle through you can actually see the deterioration in his mental condition of insecurity etc and also then in how to see Sears events which came up in 2008 when he got arrested for fighting he was then becoming very very dependent on coup Cain he was later on in 2008 It was arrested for that and then only a couple of years later the child pornography offenses came in and you can't underestimate this to verity of those offenses that use commit that he committed it wasn't just as a voyeur they're looking at material he was an active participates online allegedly as a woman is you posing that trying to sell the sexual services of a young daughter to very some very very serious paedophiles now you don't get it much worse than that and you don't have to be Einstein to understand the mental state that he was to being in and his perversion he must have been faced with Denise Fergus warned in 2013 that she felt he was still a danger to the public you think the parole board should have listened to her Well I absolutely think the world of Denise and what she's coped with over time and I think as a mother she's got every right to explain the press those views but as a looking at it on the professional side I just totally agree with the sentiments that she raised and again why on earth didn't. They take notice of that and also now why on earth wasn't she. Informed being rearrested that was promised to a previous home secretary who's She was very disappointing. There you go that's Albert Kirby there talking to Phil Cooper a little bit earlier on more to come on this story but we have had a statement from the Ministry of Justice they have told us this was a horrific murder and our deepest sympathies remain with Mrs Fergus and Mr Bolger for the pain and suffering that they have enjoyed it is so important that families of victims are kept informed about any developments involving the offender and we take this duty extremely seriously our dedicated victim liaison officer contacts families as soon as the offender is charged but we regret the additional distress this has caused in this case we want to reassure Mrs Fergus Mr Bolger that a liaison officer will continue to stay in regular contact with them as the case progresses. Travel b.b.c. Radio mess he signed and also a great chance to come between now and 6 o'clock we got Kenny Rogers and Dolly Parton on the way very shortly 1st with the latest on the roads Here's Marie thank you still very very busy heading towards Majesties in the m $62.00 from Croft to Eccles a lot happier than usual I've heard that there's an accident in the hell's b. Area as well Chester Road is being closed an accident involving a car and a big lorry now they've closed it through and Primrose lane to Old Chester Road said it's a busy road this one at 3 frontman and house without a road is still closed just get information coming in to us and we've got the tempi lights had been causing delays he says Oxford Road in Liverpool it's south road Cheers to Barry he is keeping his updated about that and still these problems of public transport service is suspended on the ferry ferry today many ferries and I mentioned in the last bulletin that there were delays in trains west coast wanting to bank to work in northwest in the parents. For the time being because of a signal. At standstill between. Northwest and a.b.c. Radio. On Thursday evenings most sport throws the spotlight on rugby league as well as keeping right up to date with our 3 Super League clubs witness and Warrington we'd like to build a picture of a sport that is played to some unique. Property again up in a few many many fish quite into the ground it can now put in my day when I was reporting they could bring anybody over 21 could bring the club to learn the. Players would. Try to Thursday evening from 6. The times are Miss Grace 20 minutes for good afternoon to Lucinda Moore How are you a little rough around the edges or you've got just because you've got a little bit of a snotty nose little bit of a leg Yeah yellowjackets thanks because I'm sure I'll have up to go to long sit next to you although I like to share although my wife has already got it so I would imagine I've already got it probably right on the way there and we're going to talk about heading a football I didn't with the you know much about this one I haven't actually managed to catch up with the Alan Shearer documentary that was on last week talking about whether this leads to dementia or not did I do any other children play football my youngest is a little bit too young raising right is not really at that stage yet but it's an interesting discussion isn't it because you tend to think of this sort of research being for older guys who played when they footballs was so much heavier you know now you've got the modern technology but in the same way that you have touch rugby now for kids in the different rules to keep the site should we be looking at for our young people playing football it makes you want to even for professional footballers in training a professional football I would say most had a ball what 20 times a day yeah can I do that every day for a number of years I I be surprised if he did not some kind of impact I must certainly wonder whether it has come to the stage where heading should be banned in junior football it's not at the moment it's still it's still allowed to vote I remember when I was a child we used to play 2.5 a side to play the head height rule so you couldn't if the ball went over head height it was a free kick to the other team and I wonder whether something like that could be implemented in children's football Yeah I think without wrapping kids up in bubble wrap you've got to have some level of protection for them haven't you yeah yeah I think so be interesting to hear what you think on this should heading be banned in children's football like there's no will work. 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Just a lot of the flight is going to get to the course in a minute. To explain. It we got to tell it on The View. The no get the story going to have you so I think it's now. Like so anyway you get the general idea but you have personality pop his back listen to this list Bradley Walsh Jason Manford I'm told I'm due back Nick Nolte's of old. Got records out this Christmas Nick no one knows what you man will shoot to Alexander under Armstrong he should stick to danger he's got one eye or even pointless Well you know some would say this is a point Mr So I want to hear from you have you ever bought a celebrity record how was it was it really bad or was it actually really surprisingly quite good I mean that would be more surprising the most good. 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Just to clarify we won't be playing that light from 430 is the time Lescott the latest news headlines now from Charlotte foster good afternoon the mother of murdered toddler James Bulger has accused the probation service of a cover up after one of his killers was recalled to prison suspected of having child abuse images on his computer Jon Venables was sent back to jail last week but Denise Fergus says she was only tells about it last night that a bulls and Robert Thompson were 10 years old when they killed James in 1993 investigations are continuing after a mass brawl took place in Liverpool city center fighting broke out last night between door staff and members of the public in concert and even woman needing hospital treatment for head injury 10 people including 8 Gemma nationals have been arrested every the bus passengers on Merseyside and the north west face more strikes next month off the drivers rejected the company's latest pay off the now means $9.00 days of disruption in December including a 4 day walkout in the run up to Christmas Eve and a leading policy group is given a bleak assessment of Britain's economic prospects suggesting it's in danger of losing around 2 decades of earnings growth the Institute for Fiscal Studies says current forecasts means it's likely to take more than 50 years to achieve national debts to its pre crisis levels. B.b.c. Radio towers all the cameras I just remind the routes between Chester at and Hell's Bay Hell's before Marriott a 56 Chester road is closed in both directions a lorry in a car. Involved in a crash today around to this what is still closed investigation which continues now the closure point is Primrose lane Old Chester Road and back closure is in both directions the end $56.00 straight up to the last bullet in had a number of people thrown in saying that it's partially blocked there's been an accident has to say this is ejection 14 and this is towards one corner rather than 2 wards Chester and we've got the problems of public transport many ferries not running today and Beijing trains west coast between or into banking within northwest and still it is standstill I'm afraid because of a signalling problem Remey b.b.c. Radio traffic. And the Blues are in European action for the final time this season let's get the latest on all of it and the rest of the sport with my cues thank you salty it's now 4 and a half weeks since the sacking of Ronald Koeman Everton don't appear to be any closer to appointing a permanent manager what for the refusing to allow them to talk to Marco silver Abi Leipsic sporting director Rob Rang Me It is the new favorite for the job with the bookmakers but lives are good visuals believe is close to extending its contract with them it's an appeal ports of formally signed an agreement for the club to lease land the Bramley more Doc the lease which is conditional upon gaining planning consent for the proposed new stadium and securing funding for its construction will run for a period of 200 years at a peppercorn rent Everton play Atalanta the saving at Goodison in their final Europa League group e. Game the bottom of the table with just one point from 5 matches will make changes but so as Premier League places are up for grabs I think we pick an honest team to win a game but I don't think you can ever play God in football and predict what's going to happen we'll want to play possibly come in maybe one or 2 maybe rested and opportunities will be given to all the players in the squad and you need to give them that was used to perform you know the message will be clear that you know if you perform your stay in the team after Liverpool's. 2nd half collapse in Seville Chelsea are the visitors to Anfield in the Premier League on Saturday evening yet and club could well make changes to the starting 11 summer many of they will return in goal and rugby are club on and Alberto merinos place in the both under threat tramway are up against it with injuries and suspensions as they prepare for Saturday's national league game with mates then a printing park make a man and admit that they are struggling. 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Rovers winger Adam Dawson's contract has been terminated by mutual consent it's perfectly poised at the end of day one of the ashes 1st test in Britain England close on 196 for 4 James Vince made 83 alongside Mark Sturm who scored $53.00 pack coming took the wickets of Stoneman and Joe Root England Rugby Union Captain Dylan Hartley has been left out of the starting 15 for Saturday's might against Samoa at Twickenham it's the 1st time the hooker will start on the bench and Eddie Jones on the witness Vikings halfback rang Chase has been banned from all sports for 2 years after testing positive for cocaine that's a story that we will cover him as he sat sport tonight it Thursday it's Try time with in Canada Great stuff function very tired around today astonishes half past 1 this morning yeah I mean that's the problem isn't there is it because I know we spoke about it yesterday and you watch often are you watching now well if you're up that you've got to watch you Sachin and then if you stay for the chat during lunch and you go on to the next session and then I don't know how long I don't goes I don't know the longer I can keep going I was quite amused by the Australian bowling attack the trio all with their mustaches this is going to others Yeah well so I want to put a comparison and put a photo of them and then underneath put a photo. Blackout a Melchett. Very similar the I my so I'm. Good . With. Here tonight. Music is a. Lot of sway and time and. Such . Moments. The. Song. Great. Philip Hammond is insisting the grim economic forecasts were. Wrong Today reports have delivered stark warnings about living standards but our political reporter Peter. And. I rather depressing. Depressing sounding reports as you cited by the 1st from the rather boring. Sounding Institute for Fiscal Studies always does a report the day after the Budget it says that So the prediction that average u.k. Earnings in 2022 could still be less than they were in 2008 is astonishing It also says that the u.k. Is now the slowest growing economy in the g 7 the major economies in the world similarly the Resolution Foundation another rather boring sounding organization but with some very interesting things to say the u.k. On course it says for its longest full in living standards since records began more than 60 years ago and the poorest 3rd of households in the country will lose around $700.00 pounds a year as a result of the budget so Merry Christmas everyone but the reason may says you know the government recognizes the pressure that families are under Philip Hammond for his part says that when we know what's happening with bricks it will give the clarity to the economy that it needs but labor accusing the government today of being cut off from the real lives of people what reaction is the being to the measures the Philip Hammond announced Well I think the big headline we were talking yesterday when we about the scrapping of the stamp duty for 1st time buyers that has been largely positively received there is some concern that it might actually cause house prices to rise and not really help young people to get onto the housing ladder but frankly there weren't many big surprises in yesterday's budget it was about you know Philip Hammond trying to get through without making any major boo boos and I think he he did that really he won over some of the critics in his own party particularly the sort of ardent Bracks it is the Phillies a bit of a Ramona who by announcing some extra money for brags that contingency planning yesterday they were rallying around saying This him this morning praising what they saw as a as a good balanced budget so his position a chance as chancellor at least seems safe for the moment but those underlying economic problems certainly aren't going away that's for sure elsewhere Peter in political news today a you care a city will no longer be European Capital of Culture. 2023 of course we know here in Liverpool what a benefit that can be having that having that title it's quite a blow this to the city's bidding really that's really I mean you know your rights back in 2008 was considered transformational for Liverpool wasn't a huge boost to the local economy and then the government created the u.k. City of culture because of the success of a poor and so the u.k. City of cultural moment is is currently whole but it was 6 cities bidding to hold the accolade in 2023 done d.d. Leeds Milton Keynes nothing in Belfast and Derry they were frankly be gutted this afternoon because there are spent a lot of time and money preparing bids it has come as a bit of a surprise this the government wasn't expecting it but the European Commission has effectively said this is one of the many concrete consequences of Bragg's it interestingly there are none e.u. Cities that have held the title Istanbul has been European Capital of Culture so has Reykjavik the difference with those is that they are well it's double for example part of a country that wants to be a member of the European Union all cities obviously aren't part of a country that wants to be part of the European Union or indeed the single market or any of the major institutions of the e.u. So this is why effectively got you got Brussels turning around today and saying to the u.k. Go swivel but you know our government saying it's deeply disappointed by it and it will challenge it but it certainly doesn't look good for those you know 6 cities that we're hoping to see some of the many benefits that Liverpool saw back in 2008 and a development in the Westminster her recent scandal with the suspension of the labor m.p. Ivan Lewis. Former Labor Minister Ivan Lewis he's been the m.p. For Barry South since 997 he was already under investigation following out occasions that were 1st aired by the Buzz Feed websites Apparently they allege that he touched a woman's leg and invited her to his house for the Labor Party event in 2010 he says he's deeply saddened by this suspension he strongly disputes the allegations and he'll cooperate fully with the investigation but he. Is one of the number of M.P.'s now who are being investigated over allegations about their past behavior. You so you know that they have this sort of Westminster Harrison scandal isn't going away that's for sure Peter for now thank us Peter Saul for us in Westminster celeb songs than I d. In Walton Vales been on Salty I have the single Paint Your Wagon by Lee Marvin after the film came out the Besides was Clint Eastwood with I talk to trees and the fact that Nick Knowles has got a celebrity album coming out he's making he's making music for Christmas so to speak. Kevin and nobody's been on about you says Nick Nolte song should be if I had a hammer it might be on I've not actually studied the track listing Kevin I've got to be honest but I will do what I wished I'd get it for Christmas hopefully not keep those coming in the f. You've got any more have you ever bought a celebrity's album someone who you would next Peck to be singing songs whose diversified in their careers really. B.b.c. 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Any higher day is any ideas talk if you don't get it I'll give you a clue a little bit later on but that is a very famous celebrity saying it here it is again so you can get who this is someone who's normal line of work wouldn't be singling out 1517. Knowing knowing for a double for you if you think you know the answer. And there's an extra close it's actually the birthday today 70993 double free is the number one story double for a start your message with the word mercy few think you know the answer it's about. To. Fight the moonlight thank you very much to write who Quick is a flash when I said I didn't know what was on Nick Knowles album has text me email me the album on the track listing so. So if you're looking for a gift obviously other celebrity albums are available but it includes the hits every kind of people here comes the sun What a wonderful world you are the 1st the last my everything I mean the Us Who could possibly refuse such an album so thank you very much for that right I think it's 8 minutes to 5 o'clock is b.b.c. Radio Merseyside to more of the day's news now than and police have now arrested more than 20 German man in connection with a mass brawl in Liverpool city center late last night fighting broke out between door staff and members of the public in concert square one man who was taken to hospital with a head injury is now in a critical condition at 23 year old from Walton and 28 year old from talks death have also been detained for public order offenses Chief Inspector Paul caught is in charge of local policing for Liverpool c s even about 20 past 11 police were called to a laws disturbance at the concert Square area a Liverpool city center which involved a number of people toss stuff on members of the public in this disturbance of this fight during which a male received a serious head injury. Consequently the police arrested 10 males who remain in custody at the moment awaiting interview do you know what's behind this. No The investigation still is early stages at the moment and we're not sure what sparked the disorder we became to speak to people who were in concert Square yesterday evening maybe saw what took place and can assist us in explaining why this disorder took place there is a suggestion that a number of German nationals that are fans of Eintracht Frankfurt were involved that they appeared to have a relationship with the Ultras of Atlanta or of course the team that Everton applying to night if you had similar suggestions do you know anything about that is something we're looking into Put those many avenues that we were still looking into to determine why the different groups were in the city yesterday evening and why the trouble took place is this the kind of incident where sometimes you would get advance warning of it happening through intelligence and that kind of thing but. The police know of any sort of football much we're aware of maybe when. Groups who are intent on causing trouble are going to visit the area but. That wasn't the case yesterday evening and indeed we're still looking into the possibility this is or isn't football related Yeah I mean there are a number of charter flights from Italy that have arrived this morning and continue to arrive are you concerned about further trouble. Well we have a place in operation in place for all football matches the public can expect to see the same level of policing this evening we've been working with the partners of the football club we are confident that this will be a. Safe event for people to attend and we have measures in place should people be intent on Disorder turn up at the grounds that we dealt with purposely out of the stepped up patrols and that sort of thing well we have a place an operation in place anyway that includes pieces of the city center in the area around the grounds and that's in place and has the ability to deal with any of those people who are intent on causing trouble I'm what's happened to those who were arrested so those who are arrested remain in place costly at the moment awaiting interview where we speaking to them about what took place and there are still other inquiries ongoing in particular the best occasion seeing what we like to speak to those who were present yesterday in concert Square and those that maybe recorded the instance or parts of the instance on the mobile phone it would be really to see that footage and if people come for which would be grateful there you go so that's the latest on that from the place that was Chief Inspector Paul caught talking to me a little bit earlier on we got the latest news with Charlotte on the way next.