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And then. As you say. Good afternoon the time is 4 o'clock let's get the latest news now from Charlotte foster good afternoon Everton have sacked manager Ronald Craven after a run of poor results and performances the club announced the decision to end his parrot in charge after just 16 months at the club they dropped into the Premier League relegation zone after yesterday's 5 to defeat by Arsenal at Goodison full of praise Captain Kevin Rocca fills the failure to kick on from last year's 7th place finish is the main reason for the board's taking action it's just doesn't look any better than Washington and that's what farmers were looking forward to money that was transferred business was done early. Doesn't work out and you know the main objective really was to get straight at it we never got a strike at it which was so so disappointing and you can have your say on Ronald came and sacking in the football phone in which you start saying at the earlier time of halfassed 5 they say evening a 3rd person has been arrested following the fatal stabbing of a 21 year olds at a Liverpool city center bar Sam Cooke from Crosby died following the attack in Empire on sale streets on Saturday night offices are now questioning a 19 year old woman on suspicion of assisting an offender a 20 year old man and another 19 year old woman have also been arrested in connection with the attack Liverpool's majo Anderson says the city is safe for a night out we need to do all the things we possibly can have not up late license to look at whether the one or a knife or 2 is I'm not sure of the body scanner but we don't rule it out I think we listen to the license trade will take advice from the police and we look for you know what others are doing a woman has appeared before magistrates challenge for the murder of a baby boy whose thoughts to her full and from the 6th floor of a block of flats in Bradford Gemma Proctor who's 23 was remanded in custody. An independent member of the House of Lords says she's been told that some people are resorting to burglary to pay off their debts because of delays in paying universal credit they've said it was not possible for some people to survive if they had to wait 7 or 8 weeks for a payment. The 2nd of 324 hour strikes by a Reaver Northwest drivers and engineers it is underway members of the g.m.b. And the Unite union demanding demanding a 3 percent wage rise or either have offered 2.6 percent and the company's apologizing to passengers for the disruption caused by the industrial action you know whether it's good to get a bit dry and brighter this afternoon but it will still feel quite mild clear night to start off with but it will cloud over later on and there is a chance of rain those 2 nights of 11 Celsius tomorrow will start out dull and they'll be rain with us for much of the day and it will be heavy at times highs of 16 South b.b.c. Radio. B.b.c. Radio Merseyside and a Very Good afternoon welcome into drive time your round up of the day's news to come between now and 530 as we've been hearing Everton of sack their manager Ronald Neumann after a terrible start to the season we'll have all the reaction on this breaking story get your calls in as well we'll be speaking to you later on in the phone and on the way in a few minutes time obvious speaking to the B.B.C.'s chief sports writer Phil McNulty He felt at the end when I was in cheap golf in front of probably maybe a 3rd full stadium If that it's a few boos and the general sort of Malays it just had that feel of the end of something but also bring you all the other day's news as well should we introduce airport style body scanners at Liverpool's pubs and clubs a petition has been signed by thousands of people after a 21 year old man was stabbed to death in the city center over the weekend and. You've got to go to the. Farm because of. This growing evidence that. Resistance to the very. Discussing not on the way. We. Use our Hooman has been sacked as evidence in manager yesterday's $52.00 defeat to Arsenal which turned out to be his last game in charge saw the blues drop into the relegation zone this was the reaction to that. Ring around Goodison Park it's another home defeat for Everton $52.00 Arsenal have won this match Everton 3rd home defeat in a row more pressure on the habits of manager at Ronald Koeman as ever to go into the pockets of 3 of the Premier League table Yabba touchpads Levy good or should lots of them left well before the final whistle the fans be getting to vote with their feet in terms of leaving the match early. Next positive result coming from and as we heard many fans left before the final whistle so how do you feel and how do they feel now he's gone I'm a go we need to get need to get him to spend on the 40 odd $1000000.00 strike a stance is he supports a load of garbage basically feels like the fines that we came home on away so watch them play with the one he didn't and they did and we're going to go and relegation he never goes astray can't use the next manager that hard and he won't be back in. The lead that's the goals of the last stall and he was the best for the close of the change is always good I was going to ask on Donnelly to be honest for someone who should be being given any more time so now it's up to the club and at themselves they decide when to say changes go there so who's the next manager the or the other clue that in all these days the phone from all over the place I think you need at the striker that in the capital people get mistaken but the last mistake you don't need someone to all the ball up so that the mix they'll get into it at the moment I got the notational is it right to get rid of him now I think it's too soon to be honest I don't initially getting scared at the sake of it let's see what we can do that the way to perform at the minute like in a performance goes to float away to the Gulf a man who takes over No I haven't got a clue haven't got a clue it's not Moyes. And we'll be getting more fire. Reaction open the lines for your call from 530 but before we came on air I spoke to the B.B.C.'s chief football writer Phil McNulty I asked him if despite the results of the last few weeks today's announcement still come as a shock I don't think it has really I think maybe some people thought he might get another game the Chelsea on Wednesday but it was a could have been yesterday and it just had sort of horrible ominous feel about the whole game and the whole atmosphere you felt at the end when Everson treat golf inference of probably maybe a 3rd full stadium If that it's a few boos in the general sort of Malays it just had that feel of the end of something in his press conference he was defiant almost a bit resigned as well and I must admit when I saw the news today it didn't come as any great surprise to me. Where do you think it's gone wrong this season is it as simple as not being able to reprice Romelu Lukaku I think that is a very major part of it and I also think that Ronald shouldn't take sole responsibility for that because of course Steve Walsh is an architect of evidence transfer strategy so she he surely has to play a part in all of that. But I think that the signings were imbalance I think they made some good signings on the surface looked like good signings but then there was the situation with 3 number ten's with Davey class no one fortune is look out of his depth guilty Sigurdsson who has as yet hasn't looked like giving your eternal a club record fee of 45000000 pounds and of course Wayne Rooney you want him to think he's been one of Evan's better performers this season I think that the squad isn't balanced it lacks width it lacks pace and when you put all those things together with the threat of Romelu Lukaku and of course let's not forget Ross Barkley as well removed it left Everton as a side that you weren't quite sure what they were where they have passing seen no where they an aggressive pressing team know it was a team it was an identity really and of course when they're not winning football matches are that's a very big problem and I think the problem for Qumran was that you couldn't look at the team and think well I can see where he's heading with this I can see what he's doing I can see what he wants to achieve I can see some promise in performances that was really it was almost a case of does nothing to see here other than it seemed getting regularly beaten and that's bad news for any manager I'm afraid how much do you think it was a problem for him that maybe didn't buy into Everton like the farm that expected him to I think it's a 2 edged sword that one is no I think last season when he was quite clearly he is a cold calculating figure isn't easy he's not prone to sentiment or seeking sympathy last season when he came in it was just whatever it's a needed he could make these cold decisions after the sort of happy clappy Roberta Martin is here and this was the sort of guy they wanted no nonsense takes no messing make substitutions after 20 minutes this is grace the fact that he didn't particularly show any bond or affection for the club didn't matter then. Even people with beds accept that if you are successful as have us and it was a case of him passing through somewhere else in his case it would love to be Barcelona I think the problem comes with that when you start losing games and people now suggesting well you don't care which I simply don't believe that for one second that role cooling didn't but when you're losing games the fact that you haven't built this bond of supporters starts counts against you they question your love for the club they question your commitments and I certainly wouldn't question Kim is committed to his job but these are all things that really the head when things aren't going well no one is bothered when you're finishing 7th and getting the rope a leak people are bothered when you're in the bottom 3 Having spent in excess of the 140000000 in the summer and fell Let's talk about replacements one bookmaker has David Moyes as the favorites to return to the club would not be a backward step or sensible move I think would be a huge backward step by certainly wouldn't be popping down and up particular bookies to part with any of my money. I'm just passing on my own personal opinion here I think that would be an absolutely dreadful move for evidence or make I mean Moyes amounted to sucking in a direct relegation with Sunderland since since he left edits and. Very much if they get from the clips past it would be an appointment that would show not a great deal of imagination not a great deal of ambition so you can tell from what I've just said that I wouldn't I would not regard that as a good appointment if I didn't want to be really ambitious they could suggests that maybe Carlo Ancelotti might fancy a spell at Everton I personally don't think that would happen someone else use very very highly regarded as German coach Thomas took all who's available has been known to like the Premier League I wonder whether they might not move further down the markets to someone like Eddie Howell shorn dice or dare I even mention his name Rafael Benitez and a name that I've added to my list which is a little bit of a shot in the dark slightly sort of half informed speculation if you like is Mikhail Tatar who is a coach at Manchester City of course and as a player of past years very well respected by also invented during his time at Arsenal of course now on the coaching staff that. Much of the city I think it'll become clear in the next few days even which direction Everson heading in I know Sean Dykes is getting a big mention in a lot of areas of the moments but I think we should wait and see I mean I'm sure I would hope. Machinery who is clearly behind this decision would have a direction he wants to go in right at the forefront of his mind having decided to . I wouldn't put any money on anyone particularly yet although I notice she's getting a lot of a lot of info. That might be him. But your original question David I think that would be one of the most underwhelming appointments that stuns could could possibly even contemplate. Talking to me a little bit earlier on. Makes David a 4 to one favorite I know the book he has David as the favorite in film mentioned . That he's 20 to one for the job so it just gives you an idea of the way the bookies see it at the moment. B.b.c. 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Empire bar on seal street in Liverpool city center of police investigations on the way so we can't really talk about that but what I did want to mention about whether body scanners would make any difference in bars now if you don't want talking about I'm talking about basically like an airport scanners minute security so in order to get into an airport you would have to travel at an airport in order to get into a bar you would have to travel through one of the scanners. Would not put you off going to a bar for other scum to lie about like that's the only thing I think there's one side which says well it's safe so if you go through this then there's nothing in there that shouldn't be you know then what is it sending out the right message that if the bar needs this is it prone to trouble and is it not really a place where you're going to be able to go and have a good time I don't know that the problem is I mean I have absolutely no idea how many people carry a knife around with them is probably quite naive about law and it's probably a lot more than I would actually think it is you know I would think virtually no one would carry a knife around with them. Even if you stop people going in with knives and not to say you know stop selling bottles for example that's another problem isn't easy to become aware it's where it's where you draw the line so let us know what you think on this if you have an opinion would would you still go into a bar if it had the airport style scanners at the entrance and you were sort of search before you went in would you feel safer or would you actually think well is the bar a bit rough Is that why they've got it there's 2 ways of looking at this 15170993 double 3 is our number at the majo I understand will be coming on to talk to me about bus as well and all the silly we're talking about Ronald Hooman I sort of thought this morning or Monday I could do without the story breaking and then at 2 o'clock this afternoon. Broke it's no great supply prize I know your your whole. Navy is did he come home last night moaning about Ronald going to mill your site through the doors. In the last few weeks. Quickly I mean if you get I think. Was meant to be on the brink but he turned it round and became the most successful manager in the club's history even Alex Ferguson. Is there not to feel too sorry for football managers don't get me wrong because you're kind of rewarded for failure if. You think you can do it now via text message through the mobile and please do give us a. Call if you want to get on the football phone and as well it's 15793813. Start your message to the world. In. Every. Way. Let. The hour. Was. Using. Your station your voice b.b.c. Radio. News headlines now from Charlotte foster good afternoon Ronald Koeman Nance been sacked by adverts and following yesterday's 52 defeats against Arsenal I was in a county in the Premier League relegation zone having won just 2 of the 9 league games this season with more on this in all sports but it's in just a few moments that that person has been arrested following the fatal stabbing of a 21 year old in a Liverpool city center over the weekend offices and questioning a 19 year old woman on suspicion of assisting an offender a 20 year old man and. Another 19 more women have also been arrested in connection with the attack an independent member of the House of Lords says she's been told some people are resorting to burglary to pay off their debts because of the delays in paying universal credit and I said it was not possible for some people to survive if they had to wait 7 or 8 weeks for a payments and the 2nd of 324 hour strikes by Riva Northwest drivers and engineers is underway members of the g.m.b. And the United. Has sent wage rise or either have offered 2.6 percent. Travel b.b.c. Radio but for now the road to do for this Monday afternoon Hi Mary hello poll at looking busy on the m 66 southbound at 919 in the city center fire in ways Ok but Hunter Street Churchill way a lot of extra traffic than normal and Byron Straight out to would lead Street is heavy as well we've got a problem to the trains Virgin Trains West Coast this is between crew and staff at a signalling problem 10 minute delays and transponder transparent I know expression trains between like street and Eccles are delayed by 15 minutes by. What we have what we think an all round I don't know a trans Pan I transplanted. It would get you there you have your gay bar light when you make you change Yeah well. I. Was not much going on in the world of football today is the Phil consoler that's what so I exist on one all came and well they if you want to chalk up a list of contenders that's the interesting thing with David owns worth certainly likely to be or possibly going to be in charge on Wednesday whenever his next game takes place against Chelsea in the care of a couple he could go through the list of people being linked already with the vacancy at Goodison Park David Moyes is obviously somebody would be put up the. You got Carlo Ancelotti that's one from left field isn't it would he consider something like that Shaun dice the Burnley manager as well very much his name to the for that big news following the departure of Raul cumin from Goodison Park ending 16 months just 16 months 500 days in charge of some park follows that big defeat by Arsenal which saw evidence slip into the bottom 3 in the Premier League table and the former Blues captain Kevin backed of says he was not surprised at the board taking action. Specially with the result. Of goals conceded just really very poor it's going to pour season consider we spent somewhere in the region wrong $40000000.00 in the summer not really looking any better that. Kevin Rudd left there will have more on this throughout the program of course and your say on the evidence situation tonight on Merseyside sports as for the Reds it's a distraction the fact that what's going on a good us and former performance at Tottenham yesterday and the 4 weeks' work ahead for the squad before Huddersfield make their 1st league visits Anfield for 46 years the Reds form has dipped markedly in the last 6 weeks you can plop acknowledges the problems but says the players have to take responsibility it's not about confidence it's it's just about being 100 percent spot on you cannot get anything in a game like this against pop and if you're not at your best a couple of local normally items to mention here try a manager Mickey Mellon says they couldn't possibly have Liam Reid all back at full back they could be available for tomorrow night's National League game at Hartlepool Rovers beaten on Saturday in the last minute at all shots the Connolly 15th in the table but just 6 points of the playoff spots Chester also in action they slipped to the 3rd to 3rd from bottom of the table there at home to fellow strugglers Barrow and one of the sporting line in rugby union the England captain Dylan Hartley could face a further sanction of the being Singh been in the European Champions Cup on Saturday he was given a yellow card to hitting an opponent in the face with a swinging arm you'll know later on this week if he faces further disciplinary action thank you for what I do find a little bit odd is that they don't know appeared to have appointed an into rim manager and yet age. Now. Normally nobody supplanting it's not normal normally it happens straight away they normally put at the end of a statement blah blah blah will take over team affairs and still an appointment is made of I have double checked this and that David owns without the moment hasn't been put in temporary charge of playing in full well exactly so that's what I can't quite work out make sure thing is that is that someone in ma is the going to be an appointment before Wednesday I would have thought that would be well they'd probably say there might be an appointment but they'll say this person is going to take charge like someone like David just for the night but the fact that we've had . Couple of comments coming in to read in for the job. Done it certainly very very passionate about the club. Another want to hear from Dave in Babington one of the players we bought a better than what we had coom and as had millions to spend apart from the car Cumani I could not see how the current setup would have got us to 40 points it's not good enough for the Blues says Dave in Babington Keep the comments coming in it's 813 double 3 on the texting just remember to start your message with the word Merci we're also talking about the scanners and would be a good idea in the city center bars you know you'd be scanned to make sure you don't have any kind of knife or weapon on you Tori grace from buckle says scanners are triggered by loose change keys and jewelry among other things you literally have to take all your stuff out your pockets they check through your bags etc I'd be way it would be way too much hassle and I think certainly put people off going in and if they don't do any of that then it's not a 3rd check so what's the point Tory Grace Yeah I mean I did raise a point I wondered whether it would put people off just slightly even seeing a scanner but I mean if it makes people safer than I'm sure people wouldn't mind but you're right you know when you go to the airport how long I mean I get to the airport change keys belt sometimes shoes all have to come off before you even walk through the scanner and it it seems to take forever doesn't it and whether that would be conducive to a kind of nightclub environment or a bar environment I would imagine is very much open to debate but the trying to think of something aren't they really that's what they're trying to do and you know if it makes us safer I don't think anyone would would mind another one here. Who says I imagine delays if everyone got scammed I feel safer in the city center than anywhere but you're always going to get trouble in the early hours but it is a tragedy when anyone gets caught up in violence. Says Paul who's from Huyton we were hoping to bring us a brags that update but we are having trouble getting through so what I'm going to do is going to play you some more music. And we will now where just stop that piece of music and I'll tell you why because we've managed to get through so I'm going to bring you the latest news now on Briggs it it's 20 minutes to 5 o'clock and let's have a look at this one to resume a says last week e.u. Summit has given fresh impetus to the Braggs it negotiations the prime minister gave a statement a short while ago updating M.P.'s on the talks. Were together it must be on the basis of joint effort and Endeavor between the u.k. And the e.u. But I believe that by approaching these negotiations in a constructive way in a spirit of friendship and cooperation we can and will deliver the best possible outcome that works for all our people and that belief was shared by other European leaders when it comes is the case 5 biggest business groups warn of the urgent need for an agreement on a transition face our political reporter Peter Saul is in Westminster Peter to reason why was trying to highlight the positives I guess How convincing was she for you yet are strong when she said that the e.u. Summit last week all of the dinners and various cost songs and cafe and coffees that they've had over breakfast last week could given and fresh impetus to the British negotiations but I don't think we learnt a great deal more from this statement today that we didn't know at the end of last week she said for example on the issue of ease citizens she said they're within touching distance of a deal Similarly they had made significant progress in her view on the Northern Irish border but the sticking point remains the question of of money really a divorce Bill and she said again that the u.k. Would honor its obligations in terms of financial settlements but that seems to be really the issue on which the e.u. Is not. It's a bargain that's why we're not yet talking about a future trading negotiate a trading relationship or the Labor leader Jeremy Corbyn said he had a worrying sense of Groundhog Day She said Every time that she gives us a statement she says they're within touching distance of a deal and his views on the most crucial set of negotiations in our nation's history we have stopped we got stuck in a pretty big impasse I mean our business groups getting worried then. They are going to say you've got this letter that's being sent out by these big sort of lobby groups the likes of the c.b.i. The Federation of Small Businesses the Institute of Directors saying that time is running out to get a transition deal in place you remember treason May said that at the end of March 29th team we come out of the European Union they'll be a couple of years well this is what he wants to happen anyway they'll be a couple of years where businesses can basically get used to the new rules so nothing I suppose will change in terms of the way they do business even though will be out of the European Union politically by then and they're saying that time is running out to get that deal in place they feel that the negotiations need to stop progressing more quickly in the next couple of months because if there isn't a deal in place by December then you know they'll have to perhaps preparing for a stop preparing for other eventualities which they don't want to happen Meanwhile you've got some businesses talking about you know potentially moving jobs into Europe post Bragg's it so you know there is something that they feel very strongly about businesses have already said that they want they always said they want to have certain see and this point particularly is of concern to them it doesn't feel like we're progressing though does it very much from the outside looking in it doesn't feel like this is natural necessarily going very far suppose each round of negotiations there's more pressure isn't really there is that's right I mean she's got of sea pressure at home and you know for members of her own party from both both wings on it but you know there's a sort of glimmer of hope from the summit last week in that they would start to prepare internally for the next round of talks even if they're not prepared to move to them but that really means that the next round of negotiations are incredibly important they have to get that deal done on the divorce bill in order to move forward but you know the rhetoric I think there was a slight change in Brussels last week the e.u. Leaders understand that reason may is in a difficult position many of them in says that they want a good deal as well that it benefits both sides so. You know I suppose the question comes when you know whether they're actually prepared to act on that and you know allow us to move on sort of gone to the next stage but there is that key sticking points on the money which they're going to have to work through Ok Peter thanks very much indeed that's our political reporter Peter sole forwards in Westminster Still to come on the program we're going to be talking antibiotics Well I don't work really as well as they used to anymore I'm afraid that's coming up I will got Dr Robert Barnett coming on after 5 o'clock to talk about that before as well we are going to be looking at another story for you and that is the story that we've been getting a few comments in already on the safety in our bars around the city center is is it good enough or not. Travel b.b.c. Radio. 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Radio messy side right time for some more of the day's news now on the matter of Liverpool is calling for an urgent review of the licensing conditions of a city center ball in which a man was fatally stabbed at the weekend 21 year old Sam Cooke from Crosby died after receiving a single stab wound to the heart following a fight inside the Empire bar on sale Street on Saturday night 3 people have been arrested in connection with his death the Empire bought its license reviewed 5 months ago after Merseyside Police claimed it was associated with serious crime and disorder I asked majo Anderson if it was right that it been allowed to stay open after the police had raised concerns Well the priest where with the licensing committee the police put forward proposals that they wanted to actually have in place things you know like remove 'd a lot of glasses and have plastic glasses and things because of the number of incidents that have happened that they reported 'd to the licensing committee and so what we do is a licensing committee is listening to what the police say now the police never asked for the bar to be shoved down or whatever so the bar with conditions remained open I've got me to be asked for that to be reviewed now and I'm calling for on that my powers for the need to leave you to take place of the conditions and the lockout what's gone on and wait for the police to give us a report about what's going on. You know to make sure that we've taken respond in. The appropriate way clearly absolutely right you know people question things but you know it could have happened in probably in any bar and I'd remind people you know we had a one fault and a famous city center venue a couple of days ago we had a night Fox and somebody managed to smuggle a knife and. Was in a fight or stop them but nevertheless there was 'd an attack where one fault was there so we're going to look at the people we've got to look up what we do and how we do it we've got away with the police but others that the police never asked us to close the ball down but I'm actually now asking for an agent the v.a. Will be a meeting on 'd Thursday and I'll be asking the police to submit a report based on what they know so by that will make a decision based on the yeah I mean it's interesting you mention that about the the knife because I'm obviously security is paramount but I wonder whether it would also have a bit of an effect on the nighttime economy I'm not sure whether I'd necessarily want to go to a bar with a knife which you could put people off couldn't that well it could but I think people recognize you know in the same way that we have to put security in place you know in terms of you know because of the threats of terrorism that we have to do say things in different ways now and I guess you know whilst look there's always be you know violence in licensed premises and sadly some licensed premises more than others especially the late licensed premises but you know we've got to not worry about whether it puts people off my job and we've got a papal flag spaces to show or 50 cent at least safe we say we know not only one thing for 'd the cities and in time to feel that the that all members of incidents that are reported 'd but the reality is that you know one of the things that I've patiently believe is probably the best the 1000 is when the public and the community wake with the police to bring. The perpetrators to justice but he very quickly and you know so one thought is all all the wrong that we used to check people have a place and rightly so because it's new technology but I think you know the c.c.t.v. And also individuals who see things and report things that have to be of the best when people know they're going to cause 'd another so there's just a such and such incident you know it's 21 years old now lost his life. You know for no no reason no I don't have enough so that a family and be less than a loved one of this young 'd man 'd you know well you just absolutely now filled with grief so that's Joe I understand talking to me a little bit earlier on pizza and height and body scanners just an option that basically like an x. Ray so you couldn't have people going through them every week on health grounds and another one here from Bobby and Walton I used to work on the doors in town years ago and we were always check anyone who we thought had something they shouldn't but now you get people turning up at the door when they've taken drugs and it's certainly different to when I worked as a doorman thank you very much for your comments on that we're going to get the latest Charlotte on the way next. Good afternoon the Thomas 5 o'clock here on b.b.c. Radio Merseyside the latest news now from Charlotte foster good evening Ronald came in has been sacked by Abbott's and they follow his yesterday's 52 defeat against Arsenal he took the training as usual this morning but the club have released a statement thanking the win for the past 16 months and for guiding the club to 7th place in last season's Premier League campaign Everton are currently in the Premier League relegation zone having won just 2 of their 9 league games this season full of praise Captain Kevin Radcliffe says he's not surprised the board decided to take action it's been the right decision it was just about well you know when that the timing of everything that's a one time has surprised me that it's actually called at the beginning where there we can maybe not the end of the week after the game against Chelsea on Wednesday which in the circumstances that is to see when the scene actually beats in Chelsea so it is just the timing but I think that at school well in Liverpool city center these but these fans have been giving us their reaction to the news may go we need to get you need to get him to spend on the many in. The stocks is old in the garbage basically. Many details of the last stall that he was the best for the closer he said Change is always good but I was just on a lot of to be honest for once I mean that in the cabinet I'll be called at least I couldn't but the last mistake you don't well you can have your say on one all came in sacking in the focal phone and 8 start. Sing a little bit earlier half past 5 they say flying levels Matt is calling for an emergency review after it's emerged as city center ball where a 21 year old was killed at the weekend had its license reviewed police asked the consul to look at the license for empire on sale street in May after offices claimed it was associated with serious crime and disorder the bar was allowed to stay open off to a to greet to make changes Sam Cook from crossbreed died after an argument broke out at the bar on Saturday Johnson says its rights to look what happened and I'm calling for a room for my powers for the nation preview to say place of the conditions and to look out what is going on against the police to give us a report 'd of what's going on you know to make sure that we can respond in the appropriate way a 20 year old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder 219 year old women are being questioned on suspicion of assisting an offender. Turris in Maine says she's ambitious and positive about getting the best possible Breck's it deal she told the Commons that she was confident of getting agreement with the European Union following a summit in Brussels with discussions appearing to have stalled in recent weeks Labor says there's not much evidence of progress but the prime minister indicated the u.k. Could still walk away if it didn't get a good deal of course we are preparing for every eventuality to ensure we leave in a smooth and orderly way but I am confident that we will be able to negotiate a new deep and special partnership between a sovereign United Kingdom and our friends in the European Union that is my mission that is this government's mission and I commend the statement to the house. 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Radio Merseyside to show it still to come between now and 530 we'll have more on the sacking of Ronald Koeman a manager who got the views of the chair of the Everton Shareholders Association I will speak to form a blues offender Derek Mountfield that's on the way in a few minutes and there's a cold for more patients to be told to go home and rest rather than being prescribed unnecessary antibiotics people being urged to trust their doctor's advice as part of a new campaign to tackle the threat of drug resistant superbugs will speak to a Liverpool g.p. On Match joyous time b.b.c. Radio much as he shouted. To. Print and the most beautiful girl in the world 9 minutes past 5 plenty reaction coming into the Ronald news David Crosby high Solti we regularly hear of companies ditching hundreds or even thousands of jobs with uncertain and worrying futures for all the workers involved that we got football managers who are sacked they usually receive massive compensation payments from the clubs who have sacked them and they generally end up with another highly paid job somewhere else it's a different world we're not wrong that day it is absolutely a different world and sashes says for my tuppence worth How about Lewison Rico or Lauren Blanc as full time managers or temp Louis van Gaal out of retirement just to keep us up this season says Sasha if you are just tuning in and maybe you haven't yet heard the news we are of course talking about a story that broke earlier on 16 months in charge and Ronald Koeman has been sacked as evidence and manager with just 2 Premier League wins all season yesterday's 52 defeat at home to Austin all saw the blues drop into the relegation zone John Blaine is the chair of the evidence Shareholders Association and he's been giving me his reaction I think it was it was inevitable that yesterday to be honest. It was inevitable. I think they have to go it was just when. I spoke with the best thing here is that the club will be decisive some people may think out as when we spoke last time that it should have the while ago. Yesterday just was the game too far Evan have spent a lot of money haven't they in the in the so much do you think that's what cost him his job in the end nothing was cost of his job is 2 things related. To all results even more damning the now was the nature of the performances I mean as we talked before we got no defined style of play. You know that of for example to change the major Just today you know the substitute changes of what are they just seem to hang the play it out to dry and he saw a lesson to it and they down tools didn't they and we we saw the outcome. It's to do with stuff that's going on in and around the globe not just on much day's purpose only on the training field and all those sorts of things. But the money always comes into it but you've got to you know get get and extract value from the money that you've spent and we'll just not get it we've gone backwards up way so he didn't look like he had the answers in the slightest all I speak now to form a blues defend Derek mount Phil who's on the line Hello Derek I felt it right how surprised Barry mind how well evident did last season you know some 7th place How surprised have you been by how much they've struggled on the Kaman this season very surprised with the Sonics we may have atoned real expected to see this all singing all dancing in attacking football Rocky predict incidents in the top 4. Extra misfired for the minute the season started up a scrap of the mission because we never replaced rocks in a quality or a striker that we could see we needed but the most disappointing May is he's never shown. The passion that the fans demand they know it's Ok I look at Jack and plop and David back in the pit one of them down the line that sometimes the over the overpass in the book he shows nothing they get their hands on inside this so called the season and then you see some of the whole bunches the players or the teams or the lack of that the discipline that the casual listen it just rubs off on the manager sources to so and he looks like he's a manager who likes things they're in his way and sometimes that doesn't where we need to see some passion or some fight we never saw it and I was Dunblane said yes it was probably one game too far and you know to go one on one it wasn't pretty but we looked. And then we could see the golden egg we had once had Scott and that's the biggest thing the had got to equip you to cook the moment and they made the decision now they have to stand by I think with the right decision but the next decision I think is a massive massive decision to make the club you know well yes you know what I'm going to ask you now do you I'm going to put you on the spot and say Who would you like to see comin Derek. It's one of them that you've been talking about it in the locker room and since about 5 o'clock this morning when I started doing to achieve a shout of interrupted because you've been sacked and it's all been about who's going to comment the weather comes in whether it's a manager who's out of out of a job at the moment or it's a manager in a position within a country or a workout or the gotta have a difficult job to do because they've got to try and get a team I think very very low on confidence and get them motivated get into show a little bit more desire look at shape an organization and what they will have they will have a chance to window in January whether I should hope to be able to get one or 2 bodies and this is a huge huge decision now that. They have to make this one right because when the situation now where we were teetering on the not the brink but we're teaching where we're going to start falling away and losing to a 3 peat if we're not careful. We've got a shot winning points and getting points in the bag very very quickly so whoever we get and whoever comes in it's going to be a talk job I do know that Sean and I did Howard once again being linked with the cloak but they will if they called me and that they're that way with no disrespect to the players at Dalian Bowman it awake with different caliber of players players been talking to an actual word for a long time and and who might not like getting talked to it like he's going to choke them but we need someone who's going to be strong and be dissipate and then get the team lacking with the right ethos and the right Beach emanation right passion Avenue fans seem to many many years but it's going to be difficult choices not many managers out there and then you get unless you get one out of a club to do it successfully they might not want to release it so it's going to be a tough job there's not many good memories out there who are available and we're going to make sure this one is a spot on the right decision and an interesting way you know you mentioned Sean Di and Eddie how real calm trusting styles you go in from the house very much wants to play football whereas Di she's a bit more open that's a mission a you know it's difficult to know what would be the right way to go with evident where they are at the moment and that's why said it to you to say she insulted What about only what about on the do you think and I think sure I think she'll David and possibly general could be the answer for that for a few. 534 weeks I don't know because the baby's not a manic in the early going to manage on the 23 level what it will actually David do stated want the job we don't know if he's dead ones believe he's one of the main names on people's lips at the moment good day what grub is he ready for I don't know what show me what they will do if you get to Tempe can tell healing similar their passion to the plays over the next couple of weeks because that's what we've seen a lack of there's a lack of passion for leadership we conceded a fast car yesterday and you patiently saw the headstock and the demeanor change and we can afford to do that we've got of the Open action and that's which will guide us as a society get them organized he gets them they know their role with the kids rather than 34 weeks of every play and you that row and get to see what we had at least in weeks players don't know the ropes the alien positions are not playing where he should go to play in to me what they call them the chance we've not had a system where players can actually understand what they want to do and that's at the how we deal with lots of chips on dice that's what some of those were good and he's been linked as well there's just show me names out there salty I can't say who is the right man for the job but I'm sure the people upstairs at the club you know that's the chairman part of she they are treated exactly director of football they should have assured lesser players to amenities drop and they should be approaching people they would have already approached people we've got now but they cite think it's a huge decision now this next season as Adam's manager will be a massive one and we have to make sure we actually get exposed some great to speak with you Derek thanks for coming on Jeff Celtic Tiger my by Eric Mountfield. 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Eurythmics I love is a stranger a few more your comments coming in here on the attacks on the phones when talking about safety in bars and whether scanners are the way forward John and I once went to a pub in town that our guard dogs on the door and as you entered it really put me off going in plenty more comments coming about Ronald Koeman will get through as many of those as we can between now and 7 o'clock 1st though there's a call for more patients to be told to go home and rest rather than being prescribed unnecessary antibiotics Public Health England have launched a campaign to help keep antibiotics working because taking antibiotics when they're not needed puts is at risk of more severe or longer infection and of becoming resistant to them which means that they won't work when we really need them so Dr Rob Barnett is a Liverpool g.p. And he's also secretary of the Liverpool local medical committee Good afternoon to you Dr Barnet's Good afternoon 1st things 1st I mean 5000 deaths each year because of this and the figure is set to rise to me that is quite shocking but is it to you or are you not really surprised I'm not surprised but it is shocking and I think the difficulty is is trying to get this message across to people that taking antibiotics when they're not really necessary is going to be harmful in the long and the worry we've got is we're not developing new antibiotics we've got what we've got and we've got to actually make sure that they actually last longer than perhaps people thinking at the moment yet how often do you have to take them to become resistant you know the one thing I don't want to do is to frighten people who may be on them at the moment. If your prescribed them for the correct reasons then you need to take them and you need to take them as prescribed the difficulty is when people take a course after course after course when they're not really necessary now you might arouse they will pass us the fault of you know doctors prescribing them but often it can be as a result of sort of patient pressure and it's trying to get the message across to patients that really unless you need them a lesson Dr really thinks you need them for a bacterial infection then you shouldn't take them they don't work for viral infections right I see so all the many serious bacterial infections that need onto biotech You know we talk in lot so I mean meningitis Asbos you've clearly clearly meningitis pneumonia the maybe kidney infections. That require them and it really just depends what the problem is the thing is that people often you know feel unwell and they think well we've got you know a cure for everything and the fact is we haven't always got cure for everything and sometimes it is best to just stay at home and ride the infection out than think there is a you know a pill that's going to just fix you overnight so what a Public Health England calling for was on well they want us the public all of us to try and think as to whether we need antibiotics before we even go to the doctor because we need to make sure that the antibiotics that we've got available keep working for you know for longer it's very difficult for doctors to treat patients if they end up being resistant to the antibiotics the common antibiotics we've got because then this is when you enter it with problems with people actually you know succumbing to the infection and dying and clearly we want to avoid that so we've got to make sure that what we've got off the longer Doctorow Bonnie thank you for joining me thank you he's the secretary of the Liverpool local medical committee the lines are open now for the. 570-9933 if you are blue what you think about the sacking of Ronald who do you want to see in charge go to some calls if you are right we want your calls as well after what was a pretty shocking performance in itself a Wembley Yes that I. Would It's $530.00 the news headlines now from Charlotte foster good evening Everton have sacked manager Ron overcame and after a run of poll results sun performances the club announced the decision to end his period in charge after just 16 months at the club more on this story in a few moments in all sports but attend a 3rd person has been arrested following the fatal stabbing of a 21 year old as a Liverpool city center bar over the weekend offices and are questioning a 19 year old woman on suspicion of and assisting an offender a 20 year old man and another 19 year old woman have also been arrested in connection with the attack. 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Often with a lead story is going to vary but here with the latest sports it is Philcon silent still no news as to who is going to be in charge of Everton for Wednesday's carabao Cup tie at Chelsea before the news which emerged about half past 1 today that the Blues had sacked their manager at Ronald Koeman after just 16 months in charge at Goodison following the 52 defeat by Arsenal yesterday which saw the blues drop into the bottom 3 in the Premier League table 20 people having their say in play in a former Blues to find the Michael Ball he feels Commons relationship with the squad was one a venture let him down the problem with one old was the charisma to get the confidence back into the squad and think the skill to go against goals and sticking with the team changing them. Start the level we can we can also didn't help him the tools that he didn't really help himself other things didn't mean that you couldn't breathe confidence into the squad I want to hear from you as well of course on the situation I could have some park and we're not going to exclude Reds fans tonight on the football phone because of 4 weeks' work ahead for Liverpool people who still make their 1st league visit and feel for 46 years the Reds forms dipped markedly in the last 6 weeks you're going club says he acknowledges the problems but the players have to take responsibility it's not about confidence it's it's just about being one. You can't get anything in a game like this against them if you're not at your best call of items in the National League news locally Trami a boss Mickey Mellon says he could possibly have for back Liam Reid alter vailable That's for tomorrow night's League game at Hartlepool Rovers currently 15th in the table but only 6 points off the play offs and Chester have been busy on the recruitment front this afternoon 2 new faces arriving at the club for back Jordan got from a.f.c. Telford and striker Jordan Archie comes in from northern Premier League side stoppage 510-151-7099 extension 3 double 3 is the number you need They're all here to talk about it's a mess he cites Paul 005 when you go back. Home to the free memory. And good evening welcome to x. Standard for board phone with me Paul sold here on b.b.c. Radio Merseyside with our fans in the studio as well on the day that Everton parted company with that manager tonight we reflect on a weekend of Merseyside misery presented with Everton sacking Ronald coom in the double header with the North London clubs ended in a bloodbath at Goodison it ended in an aisle ation up by Arsenal for the average and board of directors it proved to be the final straw for Ronald Ghuman and all this after they managed to get themselves an early lead against the governor's collapse and back from back to sack the panel Terry former Paul there for Jack shouted I have a chip I just got to go I want to fight but shoot. Thank you thank you thank. Thank you thank you thanks thanks thanks God I think I was beginning to think I was not the piece of what you might think you would think with me thank you but I can still write a blank 6 and despite that spectacular goal it didn't end well for the blues the food drink Goodison Park it's another home defeat for Everton 5 to Arsenal this much evidence home defeat in a row more pressure on the average of manager yet right up as ever to go into the bottom 3 of the Premier League table yet to leave it Goodison lots of them left well before the final whistle the fans be getting to vote with their feet in terms of leaving the match only. Next positive result coming from for Liverpool it's another chapter in that much red classic tale the same old story is that defensive frailties were ruthlessly exposed by talking and when Billy even though one point is looked as though they got themselves back in the match trying still got it but he's been robbed of the ball and now Liverpool try to play a quick part to salvage some inside the Gaza shot it's got to think about the kids I just got out of nothing Liverpool political fund so I too have got crazy a little pull up in front of my flight still in the 1st stuff I'm only 23 but it's got a mug shot like it's a little pull back in it column to Liverpool won with our goal proved to be a rare high point in what proved to be another substandard away performance we want your views on your team and how the problems at both clubs can be solved who should Everton be looking for as their next manager I won 517-0993 double 3 it's the football phone and. But I was quite the right music but that was what was in my running order banning Tony hello hello the Welcome to you in a science and also we've got a spot. Guest on the line though 1st of all former Everton Captain Kevin Rudd cliff joins us Hello Kevin I felt the 1st things 1st sent you in any way surprised by this decision that the club of taken today not a thing like thanks where. It's you could see it you could sense it it was just it's just about when I surprise you it's come today I thought it might have been maybe after the week of beginning next week and then on the next 2 results both. You know it's a it's disappointing because things up and word you know at the beginning when. We become a lot in we all feel you know this is a step up this is this is something that's going to you know kick start the you know the sayings but absent books you know 1st season. Things are going well. You know us to spend a $140000000.00 plus. We're not a bass I've been we went last year than we were last year Ok we rushed. Kaku booked we were far from the outfit that we were last year yeah I mean look our key point is come up time and time again as a new book I mean is it solely of normal human story that made you think like old out you take these goals out of a side last year and we still can accept. You know the argument that is. Ok you got to the top point from. But the thing is we've not got anywhere near and we've not even got tangled a year a month now as a replacement where you know you taking 20 or gold out today and you've still got to replace or even know that the figures tell you that all the stocks tell you that you know we would have $27.00 without concrete goals last year so. You've still got to get a sense of forward this got to contribute to the side of the wagon we haven't done that you know it's been a sort of you know what we call a lot I guess in one basket looking for. A route to come in and turned us down last minute we should have a backup plan it's been Paul on the on not science you know that we've not had somebody else to come in and replace and may be true that we were after and I mean I think it's a fairly short of open field really when it comes to who's going to replace him would you have any preference for who you think should come in Kevin. Well I think we've actually change our status of what we were looking for as a manager now because we we've got money to spend and I think that the camel wants somebody that's you know quite interested in the I added that we spend money spend money wisely people say. You know we're going to back to the side and a lot money to spend the majority of money to spend. And then you look at some of the candidates that are out there. And they have the up they had that experience I don't have the half so it's got to be very Kathleen who chooses not to come into the football club but it's one hell of a hard decision actually to make is it is always better if you can to have someone who gets out of it and that was always the criticism that Ronald Neumann he just wasn't enough that money didn't get Everton Football Club. I think you're spot on and what you've just said. He didn't realize what the expectation level was. When he's coming to the club I actually felt he felt he was bigger than the club as well . And this was a stepping stone for him to. Selfishly stolen off the stepping stone now because he's not going to get the ideal job that maybe he wanted. Just been using me the way that he used to speak at times and sort of because English is pretty good there's no doubt about that it's not him you know and then lost in translation and I think because he's English he's that he's very good and in the country now credit card number to use think using This is pretty could be whole so I don't think he was losing you know in translation but I just used to get upset when he used to say that you know for 45 minutes where they said 5 minutes for that and then it done the weekend 10 minutes into the 2nd for the start of the 2nd hole match you know and I was just like all the you know you've got to realize all the games are over 40. Starting 95 minutes these days not not 10 minutes not 50 not 20 not 45. Any just don't think you helped himself in that way I don't think it's helped him self that he doesn't doesn't always best side. Because now it's best system when you're still trying to find that out and with 1011 games into the sea. You know that it's pretty poll really cap and I read some Today we move from a happy clappy manage it in Roberto Martinez to a cold hearted businesslike manager who was only ever going to be seen as a transit manager Davin he was a manager doing the job. Now that will get you some way if results ago we fully but once results song go in full does very little for the families to try and latch on to kazoo beso was a likable guy running the likelihood that I need. A mostly kept in a job longer than me to be in a job anyway I was and by seeing the same so frailties comment now was the same with. So I was in that we were conceding calls it looks as if we were working on the box whole friend yesterday called. I know for a fact of that about how we never worked on the back 4 Yeah I mean certainly looks as if that was as if it was always not like withdrawals you know the amount of goals we conceded it's always you know too many gaps in the defense. Team's counter-attacking on those. Yeah I think we've got leaders in the side all along leaders that want to be there when things aren't going right for those I think maybe they were hiding away from the front because they were regulars in the sky you know when they don't mean a regular in the side you're not a leader are you woke me at the point Wigan I was dismissed used to the and quite rightly so was that it seemed to be Wayne Rooney was old and I was in the players on the pitch as opposed to the one I will have a lot that's always Wayne why he's always been my top you know he's a focal point and he's going to have around he's an organizer if anything he's the only one that will stay in the. Entertainment and yeah it's money in the red right I looked at Iverson and the start of the season I'm never know so much optimism you know things look great how did for so long so quickly. Well you know when you look back now you think you started by the end of the saint and then the last season then all of a sudden we don't business really really are we putting it in a number of players. Then the start the season it was a little bit flat was made because we really used to bring in people in about 3 or 4 days before the season starts nothing occurred. And I I don't know if that was a little bit of a blow to everybody even the staff or the club or. You know I didn't help at the start that we had we have played I think it's something I think we played most of the top sides you know are both you know all the time we where we flush We have 7 percent we played everybody except Liverpool. And obviously we haven't got we've also things just brought against Manchester City really that we we've got anything now tells And you know it is a difficult start but one that you think you know well Ok we've got all the teams to call now obviously the last game the only wasn't good for the ball as well wasn't a great result. So frankly you know we want to get stuck below where Stoke are just below us now. Yes it's very very very Walker to be a little bit of a what are you. Early now really like something up Kevin is great speaking with you really appreciate you taking the time to talk to us thanks a lot about Iris Kevin Radcliffe former Everton captain that I won 51709933 we're taking your calls next to your station your voice b.b.c. Radio much you saw it. First I was his the weather was dyin Today's been a bit of a quiet day not too much going on it's all relatively benign start to the working week it's actually a relatively mild week virtually all the way through so the numbers will be quite impressive but the weather itself is rather changeable and I think that's something which is going to have to get used to so the minutes at most places a dry most places that the cloud you have also breaks there is a glimpse of blue sky every now and then and that's how we stay as we go through the night there will be quite a bit of clear weather across Missouri side in Cheshire temperatures however will stay between 10 and 13 degrees now 13 along the coast is going to feel Ok 1st thing tomorrow morning but you've got to be up early to see any dry weather I reckon by the time you get to about 7 o'clock tomorrow morning the rain will be pushing in coming toward us from the Irish say it's a bit of a waving weather front pushing over us kind of pull sating will be some dry as balls every now and then we'll call it a cloudy day with outbreaks of rain around lunchtime and I like that look a little bit better for an hour or 2 of the tail end of the day the tail of the rain whips on through so yeah Dold up and really for huge portion of the day. Cloudy and wet during tomorrow morning's rush hour and tomorrow morning to our evenings rush hour as well so the conditions are pretty and temperature is 1617 Celsius the forecast from the b.b.c. Weather Center. Travel b.b.c. Radio and by the way just on the road from the race and slowly I'm 62 the profound between At the end 6 and a bit more try to 10 past Winnick. 8 The empty 3 from. 11 to Little certain tension 7 in the northbound direction looks very slow we still got heavy traffic. Around at the back of the road heading towards Dunkirk as well the 5 to 17 that's very heavy just innovative over there in the city. Chest abound on it and 53 Give us a call and 56 I should have said that's from system we rank on area over 2 it's a lot slower than normal and that they can have tunnel busy getting into it and then I can see quite a bit of traffic that's the beauty of the tunnels Liverpool and keep in touch over 151-7153. Your voice your story it's just a if I went by I don't know I'm from he referred me to the hospital and within 4 weeks I'd be in the consultant I'd had my operation. From top pick. Off one of the consult. With Yeah I think the hospital everybody's got to look at them that's the lunchtime phone with me I'm. 12 until 2. B.b.c. Radio. Calls come in and we want Reds as well I want 517-0993 double 3 to talk about yesterday's game. And Tony with me on our 1st start. A regular contributor on the show. And a big show shock to be honest. I am new it was common but I am really really surprised at the timing we've got the on Wednesday and then lay on the next day. Why you you you shot because you just thought he'd be given more time to turn it around by some of us I knew we were struggling to be honest I think the it the result the end result was always going to be the same. Even if you look at the statement as a made very sure that each of the probably no plans for the future and even that we're going to have a caretaker manager who will be in charge on Wednesday so to make a kind of feels like yesterday and the defeat in the manner of that kind was the final straw was that this is what I raised this earlier on in the drive show I think it's very unusual to put out a statement saying the manager's been fired but not to say who's in temporary charge you know with the mean easiest thing the whales will they will know where the new evidence will assume so I yield yet he still didn't we all xpect found nobody don't get that statement that's come out but then it makes you think I've got to go in front of a and that's the only thing I'm thinking is the someone already lined up are we going to get an announcement tomorrow please can accomplish going to have a day off so we've got to go and then I don't see that because I have a announced at the news in temperature me a new calf love you know I'll give it a go toa new way of. Not way assume we've seen this season so lately now I just think to be to be fair it's not just the defeats it's the fact that we didn't seem to have any direction it's a fact that I don't think any fan could see where we would go if it didn't look like the minute you could see what he needed to do and I think that the final straw will be announced somebody tomorrow. Well I don't think they had anybody in line last week because Jim White Mr machinist great friend told us that he at least a machinist back in didn't they you know so I can't say Mr machine because. Now saying We're back in and something changed in that time and I just think it might have been the manner of yesterday's defeat we've had lots attacks coming home from Darren in Waterloo Solti don't know if I'm getting ahead of myself but I'm just wondering if Martin O'Neill is free at the moment well he's obviously the Irish manageable always seems available so must be a good manager. To be in the picture with many e's not going to give up on Ireland before the playoffs as he does now and then I mean would you want Martin on it because you imagine really kicking him for that even if it's for whether it's with him it's crucial isn't it that I would draw is that we give David owns with yo row don't come said this and join I think it's crucial we get it right I think we're a different club now we've got money people know we've got the backing we've got the stadium to look forward to I think maybe we can spread the net a bit wider than those names to be mentioned because to be fair none of them they sent to cast you think it's important though at the moment that whilst we're not in any way close adrift at the bottom of the Premier League at the minute. Someone comes in you can obviously really hit the ground running because if it ever comes in if we can get a couple of wins will be at the Liverpool don't mean exactly I'll tell you the golf not the big Is it not really no way could be you know a couple of days on we could be made table but I think it's about the long the Tim future isn't it and failing that we know where we're going to win that's why I'm saying I think we need a quick list which sometimes comes just from the change so maybe somebody inside can do that but then we need to get it right and have someone who we believe is going to make totally threw out the tent and take us where we need to go in the future just before you go Cathy this one bookies less now and some bookies have ones with as the favorite one bookie earlier on today had David Moyes as the Savior and I said I say that with no glee. I just think that the reaction would just be too talks it wouldn't if that was from being there don't. Get well for us but he took assists obviously could go I'm not from my point exactly most of those names on my list of people haven't got a proven track record of managing a talk club with money to spend we want to go with that not now to me the important thing to have a phase is that he looks at the players who have been paid just and tries to find a team out civil these individuals think Leon Osman was on somewhere to bail you out and he said the couldn't believe it some stage. Ronnell cuming picked decide that a 10 people who were new to the club and I'm the reason that the moment as an asylum is that to me and I've said that on the idea that we that there's no heart and soul people feel of the of the sod at the minute because the vast majority of the players who will play in a new to the club on the simply just don't connect with the castle even though some may find to comment on change I think. 70993 double 3 is our number we're going to turn our attention to Liverpool for a moment very poor display yesterday David Sirota must me tell you Dave Hi Hi Dave we've got kind of been having Well Ok then. I I I don't like I just like to say that I'll manage it while I'm not exactly shouting at the moment Chris said he won't listen some of the talk punk in the country even commentators are saying probably do a much course the poor go to school till fall to win because of the things sense. You know when truck without the statement I think you know I'm saying if you put a fence up to say you should be a rush to buy them I don't think so I'm sure you'll go about a Davey never said 2 from a price 31 he never said who from a I'm not what price the quote I think band was something like there is no one better out there than the defenders that he's got the moment who are available who he could bring in that's a different take on is that something you said to before well it's quite funny actually because I mean anybody who watches Liverpool knows the fans it's woeful and that you Band know it is and it is absolutely woeful I've have defended many and they all season because I think he's 10 themselves round and looked a decent goalkeeper but he was a fall for one of the goals yesterday and you can take the one of 2 ways if you play him behind a woeful defense then perhaps you might make mistakes pour if you're going to go forward I think minion I have and the North to be given a chance so I'm not going to jump on them straight away I've said all season both of our center backs matchup are not good enough but in all in all fairness how much of the violence is down to the way that told to be in play the being told without the road oh well I'll give you an example right yesterday how high a line will Liverpool play in the last one of the fastest while in the Division I was going I've just about to go on to The ourselves here because absolutely right Tottenham are done the home where they were running through it like a hot knife through butter they would give us 5 yards and wouldn't wait in 15 yards or 5 yards ahead of us so they done the homework right and respected Tottenham the played it really really well now club so manager he's going to look at that performance he's going to look at the plays and say Right it's now I think it's easy to play against Liverpool and that there's a strategy that teams can employ can you know utilize is they still work Dave. Dave. That someone's moved along Dave can you hear me yeah yeah he's trying to have moved to move the lines or I don't know he asked a strategy in place I'm so sorry Sol to get spots on there you know it was obvious what was happening all the time and we had to do something to count now what a fact we're now did not play in to protect the back 4 hearts we don't know. Go in forwards we've got a really good team defensively we are woeful So if you're going to be reserved up then so want to be sorry if you can stop the goalkeeper ground yesterday I mean that's a lot it's made from and from getting out you know I didn't shout I was screaming Don't you know so you think you know you're right it was a mission to be fair that's mean I think he would have saved many. Strands. Shoppin. Yeah yeah he was sort of unsound. But it is he wanted I'm not I'm not Mark or not I think I'm not quite there yet on their start was that it was an outstanding. Hold on a 2nd when you saw the ball killed and to him it didn't go out of the way for him so I actually thought when I 1st saw it I thought what I could say but the polls project 3 calles right into him so I don't believe it was his goal just a t.v. Made out to be Dave we're going to have to leave it there I disagree with Dan and that's not the right but you and I we go said that much it's all how much you have this interview and then right Ok well you can come back on again in a minute if you like Ok Now right now here's Dave stay there for a 2nd Thanks very much indeed thank you I think you did say quite a lot to be fair 517-0993 double 3 is on them but if you want to get into it you can text as 813 double 3 Start your message with the word mercy or you can email me it's Paul dot salt one b.b.c. Dog. The b.b.c. Radio.

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