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He. Probably Dave thanks John Kerry. Doesn't have to stay with us for next couple of hours for the filing with me Roger Fritz. The talking about well with the study which is from the performance of the energetic and the waiting time targets has deteriorated significantly in the past 4 years but the bomb to help them says more than 60 percent of hospitals in England already good or outstanding That's in our regions and towns knows. That $100.00 times they do make the grade becomes again several times worst becomes a chest benefits. And. Give us a call from the color printed in the microwave in a vacuum cleaner to the mobile phone the consumer group which is celebrating its 60th birthday marking the occasion by listing 60 items that have the greatest impact and I will allow What couldn't you do without the 5 and 70993 dot. Com couldn't do that in the news all Julia bow Good afternoon is b.b.c. Recent shows n.h.s. Performance in many areas has deteriorated significantly in the past 4 years its image the health trust in Chester has failed all 3 targets it's missed marks for cancer accidents and emergency treatment and planned operations in fact all the regions and h.s. Trusts a fails in at least one area the Department of Health insists more than 60 percent of hospitals across England are righted good or outstanding the director of policy in strategy at n.h.s. Provide is the trade body which represents trusts Safran Cordray admits the n.h.s. Is on depression what we're seeing is constrained finances and also the mom. And going through the roof matched with a guy in the work force so that we've kind of got quite a potent combination of challenges facing organizations at the moment now ruthless drug dealers almost the side of putting lives at risk by overloading electrical sockets in cannabis farms that's the warning from both the police and the fire service many a set up in residential areas often tampering with the meter and bypassing safety devices guy came from as he cited Fire and Rescue told as cannabis farmers a literally playing with fire and then improvised the overloading electricity is a whole series of electrical issues it's going to cause a fire is a matter of when and not the money goes to build interest to withstand the fire that you're going to get the Financial Regulator the f.c.a. Claims more than half of workers are unprepared for retirement to survey found $15000000.00 people are not in rolled in workplace pensions It also warns younger people in particular putting enough aside for their old age the helpline for benefit claimants moving to the new universal credits to become a free phone number following criticism of the challenges labor it suggested Coles cost up to $55.00 pence per minutes the rollout of the new payment is to be debated in the Commons this afternoon Tuireann piece Steve McPartland has concerns about the whole system overall interesting to is getting the benefits of work it's important that we reduce the waiting time from 6 weeks down to 4 weeks because the principle of being paid in every years is understandable most people are paid monthly but people don't understand they found a very difficult to swallow why they gotta wait 6 weeks for the 1st payment northwest of confirmed 3 days of bus strike starting tomorrow due to a roué of a driver's pay means that we know services a messy side Lancashire Cheshire but prepay tickets will be valid on the mercy rail network and with stagecoach They'll also be walking. On the following 2 Mondays James McCall he got another 45 minutes on the his belt as he continues his efforts in comeback but the midfielder couldn't stop the blues on the 23 losing their Premier League International Cup match they were beaten 31 byte Wolfsburg you have a cloudy afternoon and still feeling cool highs of 13 Celsius b.b.c. Radio many psyches. 015-170-9933 we see. Some sample from that number Hello Let Me Hi Roger. Yeah well. Oh great Roger about the winter blues or something well it's called those winter blues Roger bases for a few well anyone fact living you know in the communities independent living under the normal on the ground or not if you know a little bit lonely you know when I went to Como there are dark nights called. No Place community activity hope that will go on just by being a health care group. And every moment activity coordinator this. Lady just joking of Ok and anyone that can. And you know very welcome to come along and because this is a fantastic place it's not just you know we're going to and that's why. It's at the Richmond restaurant and Coast Guard just froze very sick roaches not liverwurst and southpaws going to be a beautiful post the life you know peaceful and for people to come along and you know make new friends. Most apparent because in the moment we can all say enough guts and once again we're not going to be someone's friend you know when the contact on guy when when you get in talking what time is no one well it's next Wednesday and I decide to start the Richmond restaurant you know in South Pole and it's between 21 full and we do have a contact number and contact or just go along but at least me tell selfs then. You know on which they can actually you know every month they'll know what's going on a few months it's like to be Courtney's of care who knows you share ideas and contacts we've got about $1416.00 care homes now but it's not just about the kind of homes as well larger It's about any well not living independently outside because homes we had a lady yesterday that you know did ring and contacts and she said she would see him you know but you want to make more. So I said come along next Wednesday I'm going to meet friends and this lady you know she lives in the south also area and she's not looking forward to. This recall. There's a discounted cost the business is no and they supposed all accidents happen and with the Northwest music to the job they are both of those although just you know they won't tell the rules that you know to stay active. Well I have an activity called me and if I like you I've got somebody on the line I have to speak to now my friends are going to but what is the cost with the discovery cost discount the cost that I'm going to be the next $1617.00. Pounds absolutely bullfight Peter coffee's I didn't tell you because while I was the number to ring Well the number is close on I was 7 full double 7 double long double Ok thanks love them as they did Ok. And he will inflation of course is a do with the with the team now you may have heard of the news b.b.c. Was searchers found at the moment of hospitals across the u.k. Has deteriorated significantly in the past really is the figures which were published today show the n.h.s. In England Wales and Northern Ireland has failed to hit any of the key targets of council Amy and punk operations for 18 months the only success has been in Scotland where the service it's a neat idea 3 times in the past year old trust in oddly enough felt in at least one area and the trust which runs the council the chance the hospital missed all 3 targets and we've counted all of them for the Commons I should say that some of the failures of just like point 2 percent of all the small just below the top get filled they are below me this is a pointed out the most patients are still being seen within the flight times and the Department of Health insists more than 60 percent of hospitals across England are ready good or outstanding to speak to Dr Chand not Paul who's chair of the British Medical Council thanks for joining us why is the performance slumped so badly in the last couple of years. Different. What you mean. It's going down because of the fact that we have a health service that is running on. Almost the lowest number of beds compared to European nations we have fewer doctors spearheads compared to other nations and we actually have the same demands of the European nations so we're trying to do the impossible on basically too few beds to few doctors and continued cuts we've actually closed about one in 5 hospital beds in the last decade so so these this is a reflection of a system that just hasn't got the infrastructure to cope and behind these statistics are the real life stories of people who are in pain waiting for a knee operation people are having their operations canceled so we do need to address this urgently tell you that we are more much tougher than target is and runs with Germany rules were the targets and that would then make things better No I think think that the targets in other nations are higher in fact what we hear is that patients get a very responsive service in many other nations for instance if you look at general practice G.P.'s have 20 minutes per patient in other nations here we're trying to to force or a conveyor belt style of seeing 25 people in a morning at 10 minute intervals so I don't think that's the case the reality is that we are don't have enough doctors don't have enough beds and this is because we also each year spend 10000000000 pounds less on the n.h.s. Compared to other comparative nations so I think we have to be honest that we cannot square a circle unless we address the underlying issues around. Forcing the health service just to averages of other nations. Is no. More than 4 committed 5 percent drugs and 3 who want to learn. When they don't actually need there are some patients who could be seen elsewhere there's no doubt but we need to be careful not to overstate this because the vast majority of patients where there they wait they're actually waiting on hospital trolleys waiting to get a bed so this isn't about people who've turned up but that's Andy with coughs and colds there aren't the beds for these patients to be admitted into and in game one of the perverse effects of the for our targets is that many of these patients are put into intermediate areas and still waiting for a bed but they don't show up in the statistics so the situation is even worse than the stats show and part of the problem is that we don't have enough social care so when patients are in hospital they aren't able to be discharged so there is a. We need to address both the resourcing of Community Services. Long term older persons placements in social care as well as the n.h.s. And ultimately as I said earlier I know it's not fashionable to talk about money and I won't talk about money for the sake of it but you really do need more staff you need more doctors you need more hospital beds you need more G.P.'s and I'm not saying this that you know as I said just as a theoretical idea because that is what we need and that's what comparative nations depend on when you do. You know and you. Want a number of nurses and doctors around with what you really mean it's actually both in terms of actual beds we trail the comparison nations in the numbers of of actual physical bets and one in 5 of them have already been cut in the last decade and the plans in most areas is further pressure on closing beds so this is. A real real issue so we don't have the beds physical beds but also as you rightly point out each physical bed requires staff and we know that we don't have the level of staff that required for the service so what I think we need to do is be honest about this and make sure that we therefore address these issues and I think the public will want us to be honest and address their want government politicians to say look we do need to do something to correct these deficiencies and that is the way the service will improve their. Plan operations they only used to lose 30000 waiting too long 4 years ago over half a 1000000 people now waiting too long. A really bad ones or indeed they can die when the way to your absolute right I mean they can say can certainly some will die waiting but more importantly people are suffering as I said earlier if you are waiting for a cataract operation and you wait several months longer your your eyesight your quality of life is impaired if you are trying to. Climb stairs because of waiting for a knee operation replacement that will affect you so people are suffering and speaking as a g.p. Myself that's what I see but let's not forget that one of the pressures on the n.h.s. Is because people are living longer we've done well that we've increased life expectancy the number of patients who have for all more long term conditions has risen by 1000000 in the last decade so we are looking after a peep patients who need more effective surgery they need more need replacement they need more cataract operations and so forth so that is one of the reasons why this increase pressure but what we haven't done in this in this country in the u.k. Is plan for that and we haven't put in the resources to plan for that and as I said earlier we're not looking to be a rich richer nation for the health service compared to others we just want to be the average and that would require about 10000000000 pounds. Now to plug the gap and if I could just tell you $10000000000.00 pounds which would put us in comparative nations and Europe would actually pay for $35000.00 more beds so it would make a real difference. Through images. Of the power in the home. We've managed. Each time over the past moment while they doing right I think I think we need to be very careful not to simplify comparisons because there are individual there are local circumstances in terms of the population mix there are local circumstances in terms of the bed numbers in a particular area in terms of. The services the doctors and just to make these comparative comparisons is I think ill judged what we know nationally is that there is a pressure and even Luton in Dunstable the population around it I can can tell you are also suffering weights and some of the statistics as I said earlier are only a partial picture of the overall pressures that all hospitals and g.p. Surgeries are facing So I yes I hear your point but but there is a u.k. Wide on n.h.s. Wide pressure which is basically a result of not having enough facilities and staff to meet the escalating demands of a population which is getting healthier and as a result of that also getting. Having more people with illnesses as well as people grow grow older and we need to address that we can do the winter and every year we hear about the winter brushes. Yeah we are concerned because last year we had a very bad we had a real pressure in the winter months and we are worried that this year could be the same and the problem we've got at the moment is that with the current figures you've just mentioned we're already under huge pressure and if you're already under huge pressure that doesn't bode well going into winter and you know. The average bed occupancy in the n.h.s. Is around 90 to 95 percent the safe levels independent analysis shows the safe level in a hospital should be about 85 percent to allow for surges of demand so again to the winter without that capacity to cope with surges of demand. My plea would be that the government alongside working with the British Medical Association other organizations representing nurses and so forth actually you know plan to address this rather than some I hope it will be all right because because unless we plan for this we won't be just able to take over the way there's a risk of real precious that will affect patient services leaving the remember Thank you very much indeed for discussion to pull. The punishment. I think you know. The images trust the best in this but they are behind in the Times just from the really. What about your experience if you good. Times or waiting times the through the. Waiting times those are the 3 things that are looked at in this what's your experience of the hospitals. 15170993 double 3 t.v. See. How nice now we have. Everyone off their breakfast but it isn't if it's $33.00. Get. The original. Reacquaint myself before I go. See the new one why is that it's a 163 minutes long. Well I haven't thought after the much as well I know why it's not long cause he's slowed down over the years. Now he's playing chauffeur b.b.c. Radio Maggi side practice weekdays from 7. 1 fine morning seminar 9. B.c. Radio Mondays I. Can Ever notice how can a Roger thanks very much for a male pleasure I just want a lot of people slag off the role of the little fella I can't do the same I mean there are imperfections says don't see ways about that but I think a lot of that has got to do with the fact that. You can see when you know that that is an incredible shortage of stuff sometimes of people really pushed you know to just get the basic job some. They run but I was diagnosed with Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia right. Ogust 2000 cause long story short I was on a child treatment in 2004 which finished in 2004 I was in remission on to last year so I did leaven is free of it. And it's to get kicked off again about last autumn and I ended up being taken into the royal on Christmas Day last year. So no Christmas dinner that alone both got taken in I was in a bad way I could hardly move and I believe not only to end but I had achieved at the base of the spine which meant I couldn't move very well after all it was a real effort just to get up to goes on the toes and was quite frightened of both and you a could a long story short again imo I was only a new trial 6 months or 2 months at. I mean the mission now well that's good news yes it is it's marvelous but I count you a single command Professor passes all the doctors Dr are human affairs. Specialist Nurse Jane tensely freshwater specialist nurse and a host of other people this is health care assistance I was 7 why I did a world where you go to get statements and then stuff that the reception staff and the mess isn't even the clean isn't just that it will give up the food then when they think they did the work I know they'll see ways about that and his mother said but I people slugging things off I think well you know. The people need to Chinatowns to be because that about things as well. Yes I'm sure you're right the Nevertheless this report does I mean the rug comes out is going on the inspection rating but it's saying the the timing timing within 4 hours is 95 percent the royals and 87.7 percent not massively below but below 10 to get However the tell you take 5 percent within 60 days 85.3 percent and then a with a good Google Maps plan Dobson should be 92 percent within 18 weeks and he's 85.7 percent and then again massively below but they don't actually make the grade of 2 of those 3 indicators there are definitely deficiencies said no doubt about that but I got taken in lot of Christmas day I arrived at about quarter past 10 in the mall and I was quarter past 6 the following more than before and of all the world Roger I think because of shortage of bad timing and. So that was very nice being stuck down in the am you Eunice I think it was called. Jason 2 made a man see if he says Man you know that's I think that's nice that's a medical unit I think it's you and that was a very nice girl. So that's a system that brought him out not long ago well maybe maybe could be as medically more and the idea is they don't waste beds on the wards because they check you out fully yet if they're not the check you have on the I mean if you don't clog up any theoretically and you don't put on the board unnecessarily not something here is you see Christmas Day Most of them are some we don't want 7 right and they said to me just come down safely where you can and I'm going to bring you know as a way. So that they knew I pointed this out such intimate as you've ever got there obviously that 7 y. Advised me to do that but it still took a lot of time I think you really pushed back time yeah all over the December and January bound to be down to really pushed I'm nothing to do phenomenal job for whatever these indicators say yes but they're doing it as we heard from the docs will that do you against a background where just we're not providing them with what they need in order to do a log do their job properly you know what I'm thinking I assume we don't know if it was a Today program small not b.b.c. Radio 4 France or Germany spent a tremendous amount more you know the date on their health services so maybe that's what needs to happen is well don't tell is completely I got a feeling the next moment you have it is what they need to do I mean they may have to. Put your vote commission to look into it now it's funded never taken because it can't go and I definitely do but it is well known I do he comes to some is going to change the question is what he's going to I think I might need to be properly investigated Yanks have to take a long time probably the month Ok can't thank you that got more on this one I think you can then have it in one form without a Roy and I doubt it you know I'm fine you somebody else not surprisingly chose Yeah oh i and i told me wife and small and and I've just said. In the morning and you know yeah well I got numbers to a company that he well. We don't just say I'll pull off hospital got in straightaway right answer she asked him to look bad I'm the Nancys. I'm just sick they must be well into a night shift I'm not means they must have been quite tired when they got to heal your wife oh yes yes but do it really isn't great how he she. She's Ok sorry you're upset about it but at least she got in there you did the right thing oh yeah they're obviously dealing with it very well is she still in hospital yes but my Nope and they have been on the president now so you probably need to see later on then yeah good I mean she could be in better hands that's for absolutely she'll be no less Don't buy one that was eagerly term for one of the lessons. Plus if you don't run a call on something that is fun testing. That beautiful but that is really good news but it's not always the just yet variance Ok well it's good to hear from the you know we wish you the very best to look really young she does all right I'm sure she will get on a bus when you go in this afternoon to see her give the best Ok Thanks very much Ok right thank you but I wrote from formely now it's on the 1st time caller from comfort me how little I know and. I'm not sure I'm young Frank good to have you with us. I think they're silly b.b.c. Should hang their heads in shame by publicly False out and given also websites for patients to just to see how badly the hospital they are receiving their treatment is actually doing what anything so once you've got this let's say cancer and the having treatment now and this report comes out by the b.b.c. To tell the patient I'm the treatments How did the hospital stay with the b.b.c. Should hang the shame because the hardware that the people do in the hospital when you just admitted yourself some of the the findings are only very very small if someone finds a very very small white painted such a black. And I think it's absolutely disgusting and you know sort of a kick a dog when he's down there so when he's down much in the n.h.s. Where he will have the support of the b.b.c. It's hello how bad is it when I think this close to. Doing is just looking at the targets that the government. Seeing whether they sort of badly is doing in the time in which the government said they should be doing. That report that's come out I mean I mean study by that read out the smaller on the website or I mean this one hospital is saying is it does not mean that it's all that much in a patient who's going to hospital how the how they feel just imagine how much in the way that we're going to hospital from and their sister the consultants people who were. In the back room they don't know really. I think I think everyone who works in the n.h.s. Including the self. It's a system that's on the pressure everyone is doing. To be able to sort it out well you don't need me the b.b.c. Because when with nobody's kicking you guess. The government. Because they don't appear to. There's a massive amount of underfunding in our hospitals and something needs to be done about it. Absolutely it's absolutely true we. Have on the phone that also bills. The government doesn't seem to know that. I'm short of those nose up of what we don't need but the point is we don't need to be around going to. Say how badly would all doing what I actually know what. This is within 15 hours when the getting paid that's well that was that was exactly Yes So what we don't need is someone in the b.b.c. Say yeah it's a default there's a bit of news that's going to come all the time but nobody's kicking anybody. Off with the other side of your office. You know since nobody said. It's not nonsense if you've missed if you've missed it by by point 5 percent. You might be right. If it's a tough fight just enough so why not so you know. I. Know this but now with. The well I want to tell you I'm getting a bit of a boost it's got a kick in the because of the calls that we've had so far been doing exactly that they have been saying how good the work is but how strict the staff well I'm not what we get all the time it was not. Going to the points of the polls. Oh well just. How bad the spill did you know how much a failing in 2 in 3 areas of time was when I don't know what I was like Ok Once upon a having tog and watching the government set targets. White House charges spoiled me I wish I was to almost get them so much but don't come on national television national radio and local radio so if you want to expand it just all of them hospitals want to do it it's a disgrace the decision. All right that point not for us to put across and I think you are doing so all right thank you and the. Sound effects on calls from company policy heightened sense fully and also 1st call is comments I was at some polls in the Royal I was told going 3 or 4 hours I never complained you only have to look how busy and under pressure and as you stopped selling are they do a fantastic job people's grievances should be aimed at the government rendered I guess now they are and how many watch your game because I suppose a massive nobody helps but the fact that many moons ago when I was working for the Ron Clark and I station I have this from my office will fall on some to my best wasn't very pleased. At the midi file to tell me sure yes of course right doesn't think that by them knowing I'd doing the impossible Furby I'm grateful we have done so much for so long with sound we are now qualified to do everything with nothing. Well that's short sweet and to the point. But you know. It was in like you and that was in the end they just they just it was a blank organization I'm going to can run cook makes a 27 years yes it was on my I mean it's quite useless after a while because of this matter and I must say I might be hard but that's be such a good thing to put up for Mr can I say since I'm as I say the health service the purpose of that work and if I do that I do feel awful for them. I mean if they have this I'm the noticeboard me people but pick up. I'm very take notice because it says well because just the face well thank you for making that point then and with about I'm very nice and I say Ok well thanks for listening to a little bit by Brendan Eich regionals coming out of season. After fall of over the last I checked the last call I was in. And. I've never met somebody sounds like an idiot if if we if the b.b.c. Was I'm not a lot of the b.b.c. Says you know if they didn't give out figures then we'd have to only listen of the government saying give this money give your the money the opportunity not given enough because everyone else has phoned up. The National quick there's a lot of treasure absolutely all there with I mean not want to then as you can molest don't put. In the middle only so so we're hoping to lessen because we we could only go but it was you know we're given national doing here that it's not our fault it is their focus away from doing absolutely all because I'm sure someone as your previous interview was done with the money for the better money to do this studio that these figures show was not I mean the actual child except so loose anyway it's a disgrace you know you know to think to do most you seem to for almost you know I mean I'm old enough numbers doctors coming out you know you know. Except this that's why we need to see the figures to show that this government is just lying when they say they do this done with it and as a previous caller said the rest of your pay more money pick up to them we do anyway so that is not a good point is a v.c. In effect isn't going to go the n.h.s. . Well I don't actually I'm going to tell you the the the poet the poet n.h.s. Again so so much less than we need that this is the doing the best we can and we can achieve these really. Loose targets in my opinion you know so I think there were slightly slightly different subjects you know this could actually tell you know there's a for some to come when it's a 100000000000 or whatever it is you you know them take the pain that said Next much whatever it is not all that is. That won't go on the deficit but not you know . Number one no go right as because this governments have been picking abuse ever since that will go on and that she is the will go directly into debt what's known as the pros are going to have a deficit is the annual deficit you know and also know the deficits Well you know. If the yearly exam you want. To know what you bring in and want to spend Yep that's right so is and then you like but there is accumulation and when you have those years never say of another think the They've got a finger to go around the deficit sticking straight on the debt I didn't know anything about a phone call yes anything that's a big one of payments and they do it all the time that's why if you add up the deficit since since 2008 whatever and add them on to the existant debt our debt now be less material but it's one percent. You're saying if you added Oh I see use that makes a point 7 is these big items that they've stuck in the one off they don't say that and that's that much of what we spend it on they talk about labor not on the money they just create it and stick it on the desk it's a little naive there's an even worse $1.00 you know the student loans Yeah yeah we know that most least have them get paid but you know that that never goes anywhere because it's old that does mean going to death. Well some pong it's old and some point you have to be paid for because the the university paid for now is it would notice that the universe would get the money now but it doesn't want to test it and doesn't go into debt to be disclosed and so we could have big so much it's on Leave It To You know if you're under of all get so I don't come back on you like you'll say and Adam said yes and pick me a life it doesn't come to the same thing as well right now you can go if you could to fix some of the so you have a lot next time you speak to someone and to do so much for you know when we finally progress this this but every 60000000000 on the 1000000000 there because they call it the divorce settlements will not go on that much deficit and those they know where will it go and it will never show on the deficit and I'll never show against this group Ok We're going to boil it down to not be like. That's been there from. The color printer the washing machine the toaster the mobile phone through premix we can't imagine life now well the consumer which is celebrating its 60th birthday have been marking the occasion by listing 60 items that have the greatest impact on how we live our lives his reminder of mallets going to the gym Prendergast of some of these products the conveyor belt begins at 958 with the movie Richard's automatic electric pop up toaster and steam dry and also depart also dry tumble dryer that was 959 with the Marquardt mini back in 1960 we all had these the Russell Hobbs electric kettle and thank goodness for the English Electric Liberator automatic washing machine Tupperware came along at 961 the oral contraceptive to get those 2 mixed up the 966 we got Velcro and that came with the practicing back in 1963 Paris seats and all hit the shelves and the Kodak Brownie Sydney camera tricity gave us the fridge freezer and. 163 and flight May the Lord in 1984 in 1965 Carlson gave us a dishwasher and there was the Polaroid swinger that's the camera 967 Decca brought us the color t.v. 73 saw double glazing 74 facts come on to the tally and the domestic microwave 978 brought us the j v c top loading video recorder the 980 s. Porter's the portable cassette player by Sony Walkman and the pre-packed sandwich from Marks and Spencers the 1st one with Paul Manet 81 with the acorn b.b.c. Micro computer the phone Macintosh computer hit the shelves in 1904 Black and Decker smoke alarms in 85 by 9090 we were loving the Nintendo Game Boy and the lithium ion battery in 1999 we got the familiar ring tone as the Nokia 3210 mobile phone and found the innovation of broadband 2001 gave us the Apple i Pod What did we do for 2004 and the sat nav we use maps in 2010 we got the Apple i Pad and then Tracy in the l.t.e. The night I prefer the old bulb sleet I mean 2016 the am is an echo is available to buy but what is there no idea I've still got a record player but no cuddly toy. Under the game friend to go with some of the 60 products judging by the consumer group Which new golden Henderson is from which I asked him how they chose this list you know we used around 20 of our testers who've been you know which for a long time we also asked our members and members of the public to come up with their suggestions then we also run for about 7 months actually and there's a few arguments about things that should be in and shouldn't be in there and there's a real mix of ages in there so you know some of us in our forty's really want to the b.b.c. Micro computer to be and some want to the Amstrad c.p.c. 464 because for some people that were. Their 1st computer so it was a bit tough but we got to the 60 probably about 4 weeks ago it reflects really the changes I was assigned over the years society's I mean a walk with nobody child I would not know what was but it was important it came out the Walkmans in there but the cassette tapes not because you think of all the different forms that we can listen to music and audio No we left the cassette tape out but if you think about it Roger c. Fax is in there from 1974 and that was almost like a precursor to the the Internet you remember or not as I remember you know sitting with my uncle in Liverpool and looking up out of a pool score and see facts waiting 5 minutes to find out how they were doing and then then he was a fan so he had to sit there and wait for 3 or 4 pages to come Brian so that was an inspiration to Tim Berners Lee to set up the Internet and that's the thing with a lot of inspirations in here you know in 1957 Hoover might have inspired James Dyson to create something better so I think it's a lot of great stuff in here someone usually prepacked sandwiches Yeah well if you think we take it for granted and you remember getting on the train line straight and go into the booth for a car the sandwiches were all curled up you know they were cold sandwiches I know Terry Wogan used to make jokes about the British Rail sandwiches but they needed something for them to set in and now you know we can go to any shop and find that you have the ring the plastic packaging M.N.'s with the Pioneers back in 1980 contact lenses surprised me as well I've got perfect eyesight so I don't need them but my wife uses contact lenses riddle religiously you know laser surgery isn't in there either but you know contact lenses are because I think they were revolutionary for people who just didn't want to wear glasses anymore I got a feeling I don't know only the new digital coming in the last 10 years i Techs going to the us and has the must be a lot more at this end of the 60 years than the previous and absolutely and if you think of the smartphone that is my favorite invention because in. Later parts of our research are sat navs in their you know electronic banking email it's all on your smartphone universe 600 pound device you know whether it's Android or whether it's an i Phone It's got everything on it you know it's your entire life in one device and obviously if you leave your home and some of your listeners will know the bereft you know they can't look up the football scores they can't look at the news they can't e-mail a friend they can't text so the smartphone is hugely revolutionary but you know the i Phone sold something like a 1000000000 since 2007 you wonder what's next you wonder how far they can actually push that yeah right at the other end it surprised me then I realize why things like toaster and washing machine as being very important you know the washing machine I remember the twin tub you know and wasn't really effective atoll you know tumble dryer dishwashers My mother always said you know get me a dishwasher the 1st one was in 1965 and we've tested some about 4000 products a year throughout that time and you know we test in secret we buy the products you know we don't get given them so there is that independence of which that is continued for 60 years that maybe you won't get elsewhere and I think that's why people keep coming back to us because they see that you know we will give an honest opinion we will make a Best Buy or a don't buy based on our our testing what about the future I knew that wasn't what he was setting out to do but can you see anything coming on the market now that we could begin to test where that could be a stand out in 6 years' time you know it's virtual reality the robots that are coming oh you know there's lots of scare stories about robots taking our jobs but actually they might be really effective you know in years to come for things that can be done a lot quicker if it's a robot driverless cars you know we're looking forward to testing those we've already got lorries on the m 6 that are driverless and it will be interesting to see how driverless cars take off. I'm finally what you know I'm no small thing to say but apart from the smiles and what's your stand product of the last 60 years you know for me as a father it's the car seat you know we've been testing for 50 years and you know I know when I put my daughter in a car seat that she's safe in the back of a car I still see people out there who don't have car seats they've got the children on their laps they've got them in the front see what I would say is get a car see it's 20 quid you know you've got a 600 pound phone in your pocket but you want to spend 20 to 30 quid on a car seat so that's probably one of the most popular products in a 1000000 people by car seats a year and I think for me that's when you smoke detectors are hugely important you remember in the eighty's with a huge number of fires particularly chip pan fires and when smoke detectors came in you know we saved a lot of lives in Henderson from the consumer group Which. Would which probably of the past 60 years or change your lives what could you do without your mobile phone the microwave contact lenses quality loved. One summer 993 double 3 is the number to ring. Children needs takes place on the 17th of November and the 3 fundraising kits is now ready to download from the website b.b.c. Ek slash but see if you'll be able to find all the information you need to take part in fundraising for the holding of dots Martin baking cakes all thing on 130 all what ever you are thinking of doing to help children download the kits now the details and still make a stash godsake b.b.c. Radio Merseyside. Your views your points your own and your silly b.b.c. Radio Merseyside. Good Friday you might want to go along to this 100 bags and Gladrags it's at 7 o'clock and it's. In. Maximum school that it was well funded study also assembly and hum bags and glad rags it featured a children's section will need to do's been generations along to the judge someone who can help please don't leave much with the team and he is a 1st time caller from vocal welly I about Hello I am just saying apparently I went to that because. I'm quite a. Peasant I found faith in the Met Office back and we had say it was all over when I ended up we got a twitch I was quite happy about the way my you have and I was careful about that you would my family safe next prophet I was the ecstasy Yes I am my man I said I. Got a bit of conceit which I was made up about a baseball facts come on. A mix was supposed to come on the whole I think now you can call more until called not. When when we would say we could we could see Paul. When Little Mix come along as I know kids was good yep I didn't bother me. Both the thing that wanted me daughter was. We would say and on the floor we tried the I'm not one the Web site it says he and. C. Can not be still don't. Make sense. People are so. Health and Safety So what if my little sister is quite. And she's quite small as well so. Look it's just pounding on the chair. On the list but there was a family in front of all. And I calmly asked her mega stack would you be able to just put. Your children back as we call and say yes. The woman with replied Can May Now pay me money I said Jack back 5 you paid money so wait i'm she says my kids consing I says I said not a voice can see behind glass eyes is that my piano say can you move them over the paddock just so they can say I can't take it she said now so I left that I didn't want to cause an upset because it was like a kid. So I went to the student said excuse me fake I knew I just I feel people in for something I said Donna was. You kind of Bob Dole Yes So he said we can't really think. She had a conversation about it now if as a constant not people in front of them the fans an apology is icon to not close as Ok then back fine if you're confident that I'm sorry so I come back to me. And practice on. The songs come on and know that styles come along and put up on the chair on the chair at the family trap so I because 5 children. One I think one tab is on the license while quite tall. So I try me. On the show excuse me can you pull Can you just move the goal of one piece by. The little kid there because they now there was a young child next to me it was more like that my shift back. Ok am I trying to put it on my just so she could. Bear the little make. Me my little sister's or what the fuck was. I we had. One Ok I know what we'll do we'll get in touch with the arena because that shouldn't be happening quite clearly the rules. People should be sitting down on that seat to get health and safety you need in the seat so people can see not may not be directly the problem of the family in front but whoever was standing up and not sitting down that created the problem the student should I'm absolutely sure the student dealt with it in some way. So we will get into the. Top of the. Phone number to them yeah Fairfax Yes so they can actually talk in detail hopefully give you some recompense because if you did would consulate and you constantly see a new way to get your money back to be clear on this all right. We lost you. Well I think they are no shill but we will certainly come to America remember who tell you what the result is and we will give them at these numbers so they can talk directly to passing messages says I was admitted to entry hospital in November last year we want turned out to be a spinal compression I was immediately transferred to Clattenburg hospital for a course of radiotherapy after a week I was taken back to entry for further scans and tests and was diagnosed with a return on non hodgkins lymphoma this time stay fall as and move it over to Bennington I was transferred to a row park where I was admitted for a course of chemotherapy I was also referred to the Royal for a stem cell transplant and currently awaiting a bed in the transplant unit I can only praise all 4 hospitals for that care and professionalism during what's been a very tough year from the domestics to the consultants I've received the highest level of care and I've been treated with respect and humor My only complaint who the or who food or who clock but that's by the by so can express my gratitude for mazing n.h.s. And the fantastic treatment I received over the past 12 months when you really need it it is the best in the world and Carolyn Morton says this report is not a reflection on the staff of the n.h.s. It is the government who are to blame and it needs showing up I would say of months she says to try a referral to see a specialist for a shoulder problem I was then told there was a 28 week waiting list to actually see someone so it goes wrong the staff appraised highly So get off your soapbox Barry Wallace heels on the n.h.s. Now and then Barrie How about your. Pleasure Roger I did. It upsets me when are you European or just being criticised in the way you say it's the most wonderful thing. Add that and obviously this is just my personal view from my personal experience with the n.h.s. In 2012 do you mean the wife put in a Greek island on holiday and I have to screw. Some I know if we luckily retired to holiday. And. Me into hospital and they scream. It was awful critically I wasn't treated well luckily I have basically hardly any recollection of the time I was in Greece and this hospital your friends the game the way it was literally all 8 dead all 8 dead was drugged me up to the eyeballs. They did nothing else for me apparently my wife. Had brothers in England and told them how badly I was being treated. And had 2 brothers flew out. And they looked after me in hospital really the hospital was filthy Apparently this is what I've been told because as I say I can't remember hardly anything people coming again to visit patients. Make nice I'm bringing don't change. Patently we had food our own food which we had to bring in stolen from the Fitch. We did well we thought we had insurance but they found a loophole so we were gone out of them financially anyway. They got me back to England we had to pay. And they took me to class average hello but you're still a yes I am sorry I was taken to class a bridge right they put me in a stroke ward. This the treatment I got was 2nd to none I'm terribly different to the Greek hospital. People who have no experience of hospitals abroad in some countries have no I am how wonderful out n.h.s. Is in comparison. On fortunately because I was and this week hospitals feel pretty weak. They didn't give me the right treatment because in that time limit so I was I was badly affected basically I was a cabbage but clearly when you're talking it looks like this company did get you back to normal again wow that's I was just about to say the treatment I when I got into class a bridge I could still. Quite well I'm not good hey. I could hardly see 'd anyone and they said to me Well look I'm sot usually the time window where we could've treated I could have been treated in a way with the correct drugs or a correct way yes yes. But obviously I wasn't I was than I was abroad so I didn't get the treatment. When they got me to class a bridge I had vendors had solos which hadn't been treated. But class abridged it killed them grace but the vetting next day the very next day being in class when I was in class a bitch that ducked the Qur'an assessed look. There's nothing we can do for you drug wise xcept give me no drugs to prevent it happening again rod but the Fazio's had a pass took over right. They were brilliant I'm now at home. Ok I'm still with no life but I can still I can do things. I struggle with nobility but I can't. You know sort of wall with a stick and but I can't I can't praise these people in class a pigeon is just a p.c. And those houses just appeared he didn't have the strength. Because I'm all right Roger Price sounds I'm still Yeah. I was treated like I was their own some degree people us so that they caved and then they were under pressure to it's not the only time in the world well there was I won't name names not fair because everyone was wonderful Right right but that was wank. It wasn't a doctor or the physic it was and it was just you know I shouldn't say just he described himself as just an aside care assistant Oh I thought he was so wonderful I to begin with I thought he was a doctor because you wish oh god yeah I mean is that clear that somebody you you know everybody's together helping you with the team work thought you was fantastic but this one Kara assistant Kara they'd wake us up for breakfast yet all breakfast was brought round to us about 7 o'clock 730 and he was there helping with the breakfast right. Even still there the 8 o'clock in the event they work amazing. And I said Jim Rock go home we've been here over 12 hours he said I'm not going home we should chill I'm happy that you are safe and you're out you know your progressing. They would dedicate seats was individuals buying only that was on the news but thank you very much for that description is really right well don't plots a bridge by one side only brilliant thank you very much indeed Barry. Barry That was Frank says the b.b.c. Was correct in publishing the news about hospitals as you'll recall or really want to suppress the news does he want to live in a society that senses and he's the only one to report when targets are met Roman Elton's with reference to tomorrow's a Viva bus strike does this mean that role replacement services running from some part way due to long street closure will not be running as a rerun this time preserves at the moment and lead to chaos for travelers arriving on trains a little southpaw like the president of the us a laugh I'm trying to get it for you and James exactly had the same experience as that lovely polite young lady the echo Rina Suze told me it's a consummate people want to stand to get some life or don't come back which I never will well of that scene as well to the comics were making to the girl read it. Cold chill and intense heat and given. 1 o'clock English into b.b.c. Radio measures I did find it funny and you may want to pick up on which you are going on which is principally the n.h.s. And views about that and you may have experience if you want to tell us the most I'm going to hear about the West from approaches and how that is due to open on Friday and how you can help get people. Out of the news his You'll be able to get often in the chair of the British Medical Association has told b.b.c. Radio mezze side that needs to be more investments in hospitals have to figure has revealed a key target sick insistently being made trying to do the impossible on basically too few bad chief few doctors and continued cuts. The data published by the b.b.c. Shows the n.h.s. Hasn't managed to hit any targets for cancer a any and planned operations in England Wales and Northern Ireland in the past 18 months all of the trusts in our region missed at least one target in the last year and the organizing organization which runs the Countess of Chester hospital missed all 3 ministers point out most people are still being seen within the recommended times but any patients are now twice as likely to wait longer than 4 hours for treatment than they were 4 years ago Dr Chan that Paul is the chair of the b.m.a. Council the vast majority of patients where there they wait they're actually waiting on hospital trolleys waiting to get a bed so this isn't about people who've turned up but that's Andy with coughs and colds there aren't the beds for these patients to be admitted into the side fire and rescue is told is they're called out to fire started by cannabis farms on a weekly basis along with mezze side police there warning of the risks posed to the public when farms are set up in residential areas drugs gangs tamper with electricity meters him by pass safety devices such as circuit breaker his wall overloading the system guy keen for a messy side Fire and Rescue told us the drug barons don't care whose lives they put at risk quite often we're seeing people. Into these premises. These are people being exploited and these are people who are going to die in this instance the prime minister insists the government will help the 400 workers voxels Ellesmere Port plant find new jobs after the redundancies were confirmed this week within the last hour we're a West Labor m.p. Margaret Greenwood raised the cuts at the Cheshire factory amid fears Bracks it is to blame to resume a told ministers the. Government never wants to see people out of work but back to their approach to leaving the e.u. We will leave the European Union in March 2019 and we are negotiating for the best possible deal we can for the United Kingdom we have also indicated that we want an implementation period after that deal has been negotiated to ensure that business is don't place a place said that they can have certainty about the rules in which they're going to operate in the future the 1st of 3 strikes will affect or even Northwest buses across the region tomorrow drivers are walking out in a row over pay and it means that we no services him as he sighed Lancashire Cheshire prepaid tickets will be valid on the messy rail network and with stagecoach and in-depth study of people's financial lives is estimated at more than half of all adults in the u.k. a Potentially in a vulnerable position the watchdog of Financial Conduct Authority claims $4000000.00 every difficulty because they can't pay bills while millions more would face problems if their mortgage or rent went to help by even just a small amount Criswell large from the f.c.a. Says the findings a worrying what it gives us is very strong for around 50 percent of people being potentially vulnerable in terms of this circumstance and that shows and some real need for the institutions that serve them about how they think about people that sort of reform and which people will no longer be challenged for cooling the government's Universal Credit helpline after criticism from M.P.'s and campaign is welfare Secretary David Gould maybe announcement tat of a parliamentary debate on the benefit changes this afternoon Labor wants to roll out the new system paused and some conservatives back benches also have concerns James McCarthy got another 45 minutes under his belt as he continues his efforts in comeback but the midfielder couldn't stop the blues under 20 three's losing that opening Premier League International Cup match they were beaten 31 by Wolfsburg you have a cloudy afternoon in still feeling cool. With Holly's of 13 Celsius some rain it will arrive 5 a night but it let me drop slight late 11 Celsius tomorrow a damp start before a bright and breezy day b.b.c. Radio. Just in a b.b.c. Radio Merseyside. 015170993 double date is a number during the government's plans to extend its universal credit benefit scheme will be debated in parliament later the system of combining benefits into a single payment has proved somewhat controversial because one in 5 people are forced to wait more than 6 weeks for their money. The government insists it's working but the chair the work in Pensions Committee the labor m.p. For Birkenhead Frank Field says he's alarmed that ministers don't know how long many people are waiting to receive their payments beyond the normal 6 week waiting period we all know where this is happened in our constituents is that it isn't rolling out properly or fairly or if fish and we want the government to Paul's We want to find a face saving formula for that. We're concerned about the poverty and the push down . Into into debts we've not seen in this country before of people who will be simply hungry However the government announced that the universal credit helpline for welfare claimants will become a free phone number this was claims in the Labor party that calls the coughing up to $55.00 pence a minute Welcome back to God made the announcement as he gave evidence to a parliamentary committee of course these are low premium lines. Repeated will make a profit from these laws nonetheless given the recent attention and concern that this could place a burden on claimants I have decided that this will change to a free phone number over the next month and welcome Pensions Secretary David. Lean on this from Tony who says this government's been shamed into changing the pretty Viper minute charge of people seeking information on the benefits it will soon become a normal phone call going to be free from it if it please or does not give them any credit for this they have been found out and shamed into changing it anybody will come up with such a disgusting idea should be castigated wherever only the Tories could become a leaf to watch it I have a new saying for this capitalistic world. Fortune favors the fortunate now Jack Liles on the line Oh yes hello yes pass my. Experiences with and yes good yes the moment. I. I was sending the Royal Hospital with 2 broken bones in my neck and I was to have a place which about swish and left last over 6 weeks now. I'm well at the shots like a little hole of the sext over the West pulls in Mayo Yeah I got a plane got off the plane Hi little come. Summer and down the side roads was the main road to. One of those things I looked left and I thought the price again. I proceed to trust the road on a coach to 50 miles an hour probably took me out. You will look. Well. Well at this well of course geography. I have to rally to salvage but she miles to mail hospital to be in Jack examined by the doc today look. No I was sick I was White House. By ambulance on on a stiff pulled. Up some me with a big neck brace on. I've ever had in my life. Heavy stone anyway. Quite a story Roger and we got down to the hospital he loved plush because he can see no bulls so that's Ok as far be with Flash. If you want me to tell you. Both a lady who held my hand while I was in shock there with a baseball lunatic and they come out of everything hold me very very bad plus a lovely lady. On the coach. Driving itself out of a b.m.w. So she stopped to help she stopped to help and that's why I call one. For wonderful people she fell of the cabin so late to the hospital which is 20 miles away and then when I came out of them up the next minute she Stand by Jack she said Come on she said We say you're back to the whole hold which is about 25 miles West pulls away while I'm lazy slowly let it gently she took the hospital so she said you've got those name Jacqueline Michel's And yes she was a phone number of the don't know so she said but of Saddam in your midst of which is counsel Bootle Liverpool. 2 minutes later she said bullshit bill says on the way over to model the flying over. Don't worry about your daughter says I'll be picking them up at the polls this is a woman you would never met never knew a lot of them that be full name is a 1st spell gin and a Gaelic way she speak Gaelic and I'm French because the school was a stuffed. Anyway she for the pic the boat the back I said By the way just got to go back to the hospital. For the 3 check whatever it was so we were back to the hospital a long drive so you have enough 4050 miles that she saw you haven't seen much. Fish to go through a lot of crow paths a. Pop singer said no when I thought of that. Stuff and yet on the cause one to prevent another cup of coffee and then she said of it's Ok because I get a slice out going to flight. Which is about a 150 miles. So we have to change any social pick you know for the shade of them on the bus I want to subject of really the point is you've got me b.c. It's a model I saw thought but it may become a home for sense of how people with a chunk of it's. Time for one are wonderful also lovely woman I know of again. So groceries so rise so Ok that was me time I spoke my late having kicked off I was and such as that was on the 60s I was so you thought you were Ok when I saw it I was Ok Roger and that I kicked off on a never experience paid all my life I would not a dug out the pain I was in you darling are not only grateful for the like others husk of a little. Spade that's. A tough enough to calm you down. You know I was so shy Roger. And I got cited and he didn't know what he was. Put. On the back saying everything the founder's to fractures of the bones. So that I spent 15 days and. Came out of the story sure Roger came out I have because what I'm told so there's not too far from a lot of you but you know. Full of. Kokoda malls and everything but I got a call I'm just now. Out of what you call anxious drain. I don't know you and it is a disease which is now getting very prevalent in the country. If you. Don't you want to get away you don't have evolved. Of I am a social animal as you might you know you are yes. So then the but they don't. They said they let me out of the 50 days Ross put me in a state I said oh my god I'm going to wear the. She said yes for mom she says take it off Hugo Chavez of the thank God for the. I mean you welcome the poison a reason it was you bring about a little unusual well treated well this just to finish on a Raja on Monday I was going for the paper along the footpath and I live a bit ave on a course to save its 42 years never been switched that in a heck of a state so a chipped over the pavement for the. Rims. Would help me neck so did nothing happened in that book I think I don't want to do approach of any other level and subject back to the hospital and I've got to say I didn't tell it to horses because now the service I got on the Spittal. I could take it down sure of the problem as they think they are fantastic that I have a good shot with them and I being a new. City might be pro you know where you do have an over but. I was. Opposed to being about 1 o'clock rivers and then you have the afternoon and you know Roger everything else. I don't just get that sexual. All that's really because you know what I thought was wonderful and I cannot relate to it as you know it's a few look at our guts or not you know just glad to have the story is great but it's good the with so well by the way well oh yes and you are recovering now slowly but surely I you know just what it's about you know when you get to. Just plain thank you it takes a few days. And times you cough and it was sick. You know but up get. Your own if I may own you know but you are optimistic a little Jack you always be like I just to finish on all this project I was supposed to go for. That big thing. This week but. Next week they pluck going down at the Kobe got pulled on the pulled 6 member I. Can Wait a little bit down his way not just yet thank you very very much and I knew that it was because you see well right you know and you know I just there are no. Every Wednesday from 6 a talk radio mostly sides forty's in conversation how close did Stephen Gerald come to leaving the city unique a very very close twice in fact on the 2nd occasion he absolutely felt it would last and he thought he'd gone when I signed but I'm football club I thought we had probably 14 international players. Will plus play now because I thought it was a belief if we speak to the big guests focusing on their career in sports and get that take on the think sporting issues the problem was locked away in a box somewhere but did manifest itself in training tropes and Microsoft before I'm not proud of it that's Radio School in conversation every Wednesday night from 6 o'clock. pm. Time in Jerusalem. B.b.c. Radio has he sighed. And just relieved mother to help out with the light this Saturday or on Sunday 10 o'clock till 3 o'clock it's plant a bowl for a loved one Fox is Monk cemetery in Worcester 3 funds for the which group with an initiative in cultural heritage. They look like now they are going to get this wonderful building built all the paper was resigned off companies just dedicated 10000 pounds so the build should stop very soon what they got is key elements of the old with the hospital Victorian chapel they can't they preserved I think Livingstone worked in a number of stained glass windows This happened when the original hospital chapel who was dismantled in 2006 they've been organizing along with the friends of Fox's bank sandwich vendors all aim to raise 134000 pounds they needed to build the memorial building and they really got the steel structure they've got the footing that we think is just the finishing off it will be a wonderful place when it's done providing a place of quiet reflection for those who visit the cemetery I will also feature her chicks edition if you can't go along with that deal Sunday tentatively to plant a bulb and thereby help continue to raise funds then this contact numbers which you might want to pick up on which are linked with the 18 Now I'm from Wilton hello and . Thank you for having me on pleasure it's all about the Royal Hospital I'm not knocking the Royal Hospital I'm not knocking any hopes it'll chill but I would like to know how many people are waiting to go in the boil for the hip replacement I mean you need a special. I've been waiting over 12 months Hello. Twice a been. Pre-op don't. You know why they've been counseled you know and tell me tell you the current do it so you get a phone call 3 days or one day some people I know are actually in the operation see it's awakened. Go ahead on the come out and say we called to us today go home now I don't think disposing of their oil I think it's absolutely appalling when he sees I've come across this before no particular the rule and one of the problems he's again he's given there's no there's no leeway and this is a surgeon is ill or analysis is still a drive and there's no backup now to be able to cover so he's crazy I mean my doctor lives by said I'm supposed to be doing x. Is from Brock Reed and he also does spy up now he has the doc that I'm having have to have a special day to go in to do the operation of the Royal and he's only allowed Friday or among the I've been told now what happens if my said you can't do it on the frog in a month which is happening I mean I'm never going to get the you know 12 months is not good you know if I believe my g.p. Is that the us has even written a letter to the Royal I also have a job and it talks with the boil to all the relevant people you know his secretary you don't get any response from the toll and also really about your I'm a carer right I'm 75 years old not tonight so I don't think it's good you know it doesn't sound good enough and you know seen a lot of pain as well he's never paid with me to be giving up morphine What do you think you. It's really easy and you see your g.p. Has been in touch with the hospital those precisely this last week well I hope that speeds things up for you I don't think it will brought you think it's really a collapse say the stuff I write for you I think the the fault is it ministration of the royal it's going to come up it to be honest I'm not bashing the people away from the nest once you get into the role or any hospital a very good in this city but of story trying to get into the royal on a special bat because I love the complications obviously is jewels and I is not a new in your case you see because there aren't enough of these special plates no i'm because it's a main hospital with Cynthia knew the hospital especially kept bets on the royal So the world has to take in the majesty in your sent home yeah yeah that does happen again but I have no time no Rogers's I mean what if you haven't Imagine see a little to show to understand completely I think is really really unfortunate I mean the pain is surrenders when you have 2 bones or been together I mean last year there was a broken sign out on the freeway you. How cool how do you mean. Being seen a year ago you might well the operation money much easier now you know I'm going I'm going to somebody's going down again you know I mean me the stalker in fact u.g. Pay was over 20 up to February next year to when I say spent with my hip was 2 years ago. And basically I had a physio much treatment before Christmas last year and then back into the royal it's just disgust and I'm really sorry to him that this is only we can do that we will try and bring the rule and maybe try by jittering the row and asked them Well why are you canceling people to have to go to the royal to have special bat and how many people are waiting that's right like that because every time I ring go up or you're not from the list but really 9 from what list so to say and I don't know we'll try to find out and try but I did find out for me I mean I have spent Clive my foot there especially of the people that I've spent the complaints to Paul on the don't do nothing this is pals Yeah yeah father let the girls it was talk possibly unsupplied my foot on the step to peace the 2nd I really spent to the complaints to Paul Fiona chair also think a name is under your will seems to click to gather that nobody gets nothing on Paul Ryan will try to do something I didn't promise anything but we will have a go when they need to read people are now saying to be asked to go privately question no money to do that 50000 the been told do not write because you've been paying your taxes you just can't just write about you know I mean you know what I mean I know exactly what you mean and there you must be feeling the pain you are feeding to to put you on morphine most of all to think ain't. You all right thank you anything wrong with how many bags thank you thank you bye bye I mean there's a dreadful story. Roma says although we have an excellent health service if you Google shouldn't generalize about the quality of other health systems some years ago I was referred to a French hospital due to their expertise in my health condition of that time I found the French absolutely spotless and clean and the attention and care I received was excellent My family were allowed to stay with me I'm a hospital room I will treat you with every could join my mission Yes I mean you know good about everywhere I go I think in the particular country. Possibly things in the capital quite as good but sadly I'm aware the cols use the French of peace when nest was excellent reason alone I'm sort of not on. First of all I'd like to start I'm not knocking any hospital right yeah. I'm not knocking this is doctors cleaners all and he was right on going back to 994 and said the old all the hey I'll still not been you only all of them yep so much for watching trace of. Cancer. And he was on chemo Raj many a time we have to go and join the Di we got there early in the moment only to be told no but right also we notice is 2 years in. It went from 3 nurses up the pat down to one. Than it was with Again it went from one ness in on the wall to look and 2 wat Not just want and didn't notice was given out medication one particular day and ask a man the game is metric to get his medication and he said no or that he got it she was at the med he was on it got it. Only for his moment say he has had and she said no given him she tried to give him the next patients medication which wouldn't at all no harm to him bought if he if the next patient but the scene with the receipt pain medication diversion he would have died. Yep that's what caused it my son was on real called drugs to fight his leukemia 2 years later it was transferred to the Royal while the same I know that when Tim Long day I went to him with a minimal intimate saw Fight she came to me all the time and asked in the doc to say I'm sorry we can't put him in a bad right she gave him his medication on the strip in the waiting room on the on the trip machine right no bad just in the chest it nope that was spawned we had no problem with the t. Had no problem with it as 10 o'clock daddy didn't call it bad instead of being on 7 while you was put on non-lawyers So how long winded due to the hospital what Tongan on going back to some 1980 snowmen What time do you ride and then he goes in bed at 10 10 o'clock you said got to fight Malone said it was 14 hours yeah and then he wasn't put in the right wallet he was Possum's nonwhite and said The suffering was because of nearly a bed they have spouted that stay on the bed they outspent. They brought him down the next day at 6 o'clock in the afternoon. Ate my knee pressed away in the Royal the doctor who had to fill 'd out the forms from the old necessarily pipe away. I don't 24 hours stretch he came up to me and he said I'm stayin the fuel song right to the end of this pipe away what I've got to do. To make sure you got it and he said I'm staying with him I said Well thanks for that. But you've been on duty 24 hours he said until the feel lousy set I'm not going to let them this but I've got it to feel a lot to that's such dedication is. A lot that speaks for itself it does and set you free later what all the shield has a bad show you as is the sheltered fact we haven't come for him for years I'm salty The problem is we've there's been a lot of advances but seeing expensive advances we have been prepared to pay more money to the n.h.s. Will those advances of technical advances I'm deaf we are back your right square $1.00 more or less but the problem is never going to get right it's only going to get worse and was the same up when. I had the problem with my wife when she had a breast cancer and that was if the same class of bitch plus a bitch was getting knocked down then to what it is now. And she was in the old post but the same was out and then show it to the Pratt. I'm not you know and the same mountains with Ed but the you know obviously she had the last days as own but. You know I've got nothing but praise for the doctors and this is nothing but praise until the truth is p.c. You cannot have a quality n.h.s. System on the cheap. Oh no it's going to be the one is going to be day 247 because when we so most in all the hype but they came to me almost. On the set of go to broke 'd up in and on Monday a simple full except for more money for the troops mice because one does the kind men all known to him. Had to file infection. And he was sent home of the slick both to make sure all the kids will not wold have to have this topless now going back to 19 Eighty-Four the tablets they were given cost 5 lb right now how much what they cost to deice a lot more much now you're showing them on top of a $5.00 pound. On 9 so in about one child had to have full time to deice that there's 20 pounds for one child now in all the time in the old Paul one bold Woodhouse 20 to 50 patients Yep because you had when you 1st went and you had babies just being bull with comes and it was a come towards now but it was a stay between 20 and help them out so that would cost you. Have to be gone to 7 days not one not 27 days and that was to build up the means system and all the patients helped to build it up because the blood on the drugs by roll along was killing the system the selves to build up again they have to give in these tablets you have to buy those tablets of what you've already said you know the cost priceless. Of the Jew will you explain a very interesting comparison between as was then I was he's now I mean it's not changed that much oh no it's not a cause. I've been in the world recently not be self like no words seen someone else they've been in the same situation yeah yeah I mean you know I can see it yourself you know it it's it's bad 247 in all hospitals you know it's not just saying no to round those you know it's up in the north and lonely it won't get better because you need you need money flowing out to 24 seventh's and I think you want to happen to be always been happy to thank you very much indeed thank you for explaining you know your situation stories so thank you very much thank you for listening but I know people understand that but you know I'm cool now nobody Oh hello hello and it's about the hospitals Yes and I come tasteless to the hospital I know rice I mean the been absolutely fabulous slip man I mean I'm an ass Matthew Rice and I have a long problems as well and I've been I've missed it on a mission seems to list of times now and I do keep my eye on the contrary but this times when it goes beyond Yanks to Hell yes and the 1st time I was out method I was admittedly the chest infection and you mental Yeah even now. I do you Melanie and I was on the bulletin line a sexist. And I couldn't face them doctors and all. And they came to see me to well I'm from the I dependency unit 'd came to see me because he said this thing you know antibiotics to lick you have to come to me explain that feeling to me. The name. To put me on bed rest for 2 days because of the. Right. Foot stuff. That's the time since that I've been up to it you know. The last time tonight. It was not to do with the hospital it's the system. I was. Came to see me and said I could go have been a full day all right said a cookie. Dough and I will need to 2 days supply and steadily Raj. And I rang my door and said. I'm just waiting for the tablets to come all right Ok so you have to be in 12 o'clock. 9 hours later I was still waiting for those 2 days' supply. I couldn't even get into a wait to wait while a Komo and somebody must have been waiting for that. It's been and that's you think and I was told to sit in the. Way. Find out why the pharmacy was taken from. Apple it's been not been sent back down again and you can just say Sure yeah yeah but the thing is. Most of the tablets to send. If the doctor made. All your family could get dispensed at the chemist yes then today supplies stand on it's not been on. And you could to got them to got them at the pharmacy in Egypt right have. Been doing internally in the hospital. Bed with the been feeling that's really good points and I don't know hospital clicked to that they should. Do. And people are. They need to go into yes you know into the project you want in this is your situation. The family that is people with no family. They have to go and by ambulance to after it was common it. You know they have to wait for the tablets to come all. You've got. And they know that you've got and. If the family. Should be able to give you the script yeah I'm still family. This. Is a really good point Bessie. And I just think. You know it's got nothing to do with the stuff. Nothing to do with. Betty thank you very much indeed and I'm glad you came out already over thank you very. Much you there. Now you know no livable Rumpel street not too far from the bay had it looks like it'll do St But if there's a building there which played important indeed a vital role in the 2nd World War Western approaches is a former Secret World War 2 bunker and it's reopening this in historical attraction at the end of the week next week social enterprise big heritage based in Chester have been painstakingly renovating control and operations rooms and discovering previously hidden areas of 30000 square feet bunker and particularly keen to hear about the stories of the amazing women who serve the jury in wartime I've been thinking today in paid really care to me Tell me all about this remarkable operation western approaches a build in run for street value very wanted in the shoeman during the 2nd World War It basically was the command center for the battle of plan take the war was pretty much war within in a secret bunker in Liverpool and it was opened up to the public some years ago yes it was it was declassified about 960 and then it wasn't until 99293 that it was opened as a museum and there was a lot of love and attention put into display for the public but sadly in recent years it's been anonymous once again really so we're revitalizing reimagining to build in there you all big heritage right yes so big heritage a nonprofit organization it was founded and we're actually we've been working Liverpool bar headquarters in Chester and we basically take heritage to people and get make make it really into something that's relevant to people's lives and exciting and gauging for everybody so where we do things differently no you doing a big reach not a refurbishment you're bringing it back to how it was and discovering new places within it a little the marketing of it was not been right in the person to be honest it should be Bletchley Park Churchill's war rooms western approaches they have a 3 build. Winsor for me are pivotal in the 2nd world war and we all know the 1st 2 you know the 1st 2 across the country but he knows or so think it's just about being proud and shout about it and Liverpool is a city tends to do quite well it's show and shout and you know being proud of itself for some reason western approaches been a bit you know kind of quiet and off the record so we're going to make a big song and dance and make sure people know it's there what will people see when they tell them in the main attraction really is probably the operations room this is a nerve center room with a huge big map wall were they track the position of ships both. Chips and enemy ships and the able to plot the convoys moving across from Canada and America that room is pristine almost as it was or were put back almost as it was we have the commander in chief offices we have a quick moment and rooms that were for code in translating the classified information coming from Bletchley Park but we also opened some new rooms that were closed off we think probably in the sixty's even earlier a lot of the Rens these amazing young girls working down there stay in days on end and then we found behind you know one door what we were told was a corridor a series of corridors with bunk rooms and sleeping quarters so we're going to be slowly and surely opening all them up to the public what was the role these women these girls changed the course of the war and I think what big heritage is going to do is really tell the story away from this great figures like Mark Noble and Churchill who is down there and Johnny Walker is linked to the place and but for us it's the story of these girls these young clever clever women who were brilliant at math who were plotted in who were planted in the roots of ships but also planning out tactics so they had the western approaches tactical units based there where these bright young women were teaching these kind of naval officers how to evade submarines how to attack submarines and all these men would come up to Liverpool to be trained by these girls from 1718 years old in wargaming basically played war games with these girls who would be. Beat them time and time again show them the tactics is a great story of a very haughty kind of kept a new. Backside hand into him 3 times in a row by a 17 year old girl in a mart out the room and completely change his tactics and realize he was completely wrong and it just brings shivered you know down my spine thinking about these you know young girls who Story haven't been told so it's hugely important and it's quite sad really in a way I mean I think that's maybe just how history changes but as a picture on the wall it says. Horton who's commander in chief under Secretary there's a picture on the wall when we when we took over and I wasn't a secretary as a flag officer Katharine Ham Halleck Hannigan the name was who from all accounts basically ran around the run the place behind closed doors and she kept a tight ship and everything and she was just seen as his secretary so you know we're going to big emphasis on how great she was and her skills so it's about balancing that story out really and I think it's just how history changes how we view things and it's it's not just young girls and around that these girls were knew exactly what they were doing and change the change the course of history how many of them still lived there a few obviously as time goes on it gets less and less sadly and we're really lucky that we have a Wren who was 20 by the time the war finished who was down there Stella Passy who's joining us on the 26 when we have a kind of even opening before the public opening on the 27th so stellar you know mid ninety's and very very excited to come visit in her son's going to be with her as we show around and we're she's going to be our guest of honor really for to come and see the place there may be others who either there are children of those young women who know about what went on that there may still be other young women and older women who can help you to kind of rediscover the place absolutely and I think the problem is it's a classified building or was a classified building so we have to rely on kind of all histories and testaments of people who were down there to find out what really was going on there and not just from a war perspective book. You know what was life like when they come out of you know after the end of the shift and find half a little pool bombed or you know what did they do for formers the you know romance is going down or did they get to go for drinks and that's a social history or interested in so we are really keen to hear from people who may be still able to tell the story firsthand or maybe the moms or the dads of member working down there or they could pass that story on and they could tell us about that as well because it helps inform and enrich our story and we want to capture record that for ourselves and future generations before it disappears anybody listening now who can help choose a wrinkle you just wait till you open and come to well they were working there themselves and then they come down and we'll roll the red carpet out for them if they have stories of relatives then they can come down and tell our staff or they could they could call in as well if they want to phone numbers are 151-227-2008 I think Payton from the carriage that's a social enterprise involved with Weston preaches storing it in little run through the street it reopens as a tourist attraction of finding the 27th week on Friday and if you want to get in touch with Dean with any stories or memories about the building his number again which only with the 18 he's due 272008 and of course we'd love to hear from You Tube perhaps someone in your family worked a western approaches all you yourself to want to get a wrinkle small today because got so many calls about the n.h.s. But which are we into more about that 170993 Doubletree But next it's treatment and talents and injuries are. I wanted to you. Gave our flame this is the journal mash which is being debated I think in part of this afternoon. We want. To. Register. For people who are listening. To. This message you so stress you're the consonance. Has. Never faced introduced around $968.00 cause of many injuries then the money factors into Posen $60.00 introduces a pessimist now in the ninety's that was so since 2006 a further Him 126000 people implanted with the smash. A lot of women from the injuries. We don't have a register a b. An n.h.s. N.h.s. England mesh group for 3 years. Still they say the benefits outweigh the risks for today. Called for it to be suspended. Scientific studies trying to get the real one but I think it's a fact of the matter is the medicine regulate. Are funded by the manufacturer. And it's easy to get this. Onto the market with the c Mark they don't goes through the same rigorous trials strokes for just once or to highlight today what will happen in the debate this morning was that just a short time in a debate sure was yes it was only about determines the debates both what we've got is. The surgeon in London. Says the only you. I contacted many years ago when you operated on me. She's called for a complete when she when you say she operated on you mean she insists on a mission into you know she my local hospital puts this in May 2006 and I suffered. Terrible growing pains back pain. All sorts of pain the toes Kaylan and. 2 years later the toll there had been at the cancer and I didn't. Attend out of the same 5 sit ins travel insulin I'm paying out of the pumps but it was the mess it was as bad as infamy blood could through the blood yeah that's what I found cause I ask . You since you mentioned you well yes she removed it and she had to go and remove in it because the fact of the muscle is it's embedded in the when it gets removed tissue comes away so other removal to full so it really is help because of the infections and only other things the pain can try and sleeping. To the muscle it's a stamp that is in c.l. Speeding is this a quick fix of her ration the women on the other alternative so she's come out I'm so used to set them. But. I love. A woman. All right she's certainly raised about the other women involved who want to give a ring again the men of the time today may want to read this tomorrow she's Ok. Thanks for raising youth and. To read the reports of. The morning thanks. Mysteries and. Brightening you'll weekday mornings from 9 the mystery man rang a friend to tell him some exciting news which had made I'm really happy I have a nice friend wasn't happy at all with the news and he slammed the phone down read on the game show we want to be a millionaire and also I found it very very sad but a 1000000 quid you've got to get this question right I was baseball once I put the phone down I do you. Know. I've been in the sand and you know show in style shine on b.b.c. Radio and this is something. You know it's about you know it is next village and it's. Kind of well ahead of all the n.h.s. People talking about yeah well I was in the open. And I tell you what. I think a everybody. Was outstanding I could not hold their wallets with spotless spotlessly clean every day and I They wonder was a 15 minute change all the things to make sure. These comes through right he got you breakfast on body. Can I was not not trying stuff right you go into a mode when you come in and your back button lockup follows you throughout your journey around the hospital to go when the call to recover you go down to the razor in the back of the rational but which turn comes back with you all the posts of a very good as well very very good. Then you go in the recovery ward and you paid for 1st class then you go into the going home ward. You go hello everybody but I spoke to because I was small have all your jokes in your locker which is locked in the next house a red state. Red cold sorry with a k. Around and left and she gives you new medication from. Everything and I think if the combine don't go confronted with a half major operation major that was very bad cases why can't that be done in all hospitals Well maybe I don't know I I think the idea of a dental event really exists now stop close infection if you want the same bed all the Sun It sounds like a really good system but I call it of all the G.'s mobile. Lovestruck Yeah I think I think we should bring Leo school nesting back where they went to school and block come on to the ward and I think that would help the nest China a lot because I would jump with everything to do and they have everything to do on the wall on the last Fall and I think that's what should happen maybe it will in the future I don't know I'll let you go. Thank you. Thank you Roger Jeanette from if you hadn't thought of her son called me now I was already open about your thank. You and it's just to say this I went to my don't just last November from that he referred me to the hospital and within 4 weeks I'd seen the consultant I'd had my operation my goodness. Absolutely fantastic I've got to focus one of the consultants. Brilliant. Yes yes Aintree hospital everybody is just lovely just love them contra say anymore this so fantastic but so busy company even then I went to the marina dock leash Center which looks like a hotel to me tossed into really treated really really well and just left this last Friday after one of my one of my last treatments for the while anyway and I'm clear. Brilliant isn't it I take it you have breast cancer that's. Not becomes the so what b.c.g. Treatment under the c.g. . It's it's a cheapie vaccine so I can give you a vaccination it goes directly into a pile of money yes and it kicks off your immune system when one feels you might be breast cancer has read I thought where you dug things about that place then you for breast cancer know they go you're going to Fridays for this one on this a lot of people him and. Women and men have treatment but you get in toast but around choose what. You're Ok you're clear that yes absolutely perfect moment they call maintenance will help not having to go but now to March just for the camera to make sure that happening saying Ok so I've been so so lucky and also I mean I'm really lucky because the treatment is not the same face of the chemo and I understand. Your doctor diagnosis recently that he didn't say it but he said to me it might only be an infection so don't get frightened but he sent me some lesser to the hospital and I was I was in 4 weeks it was done on the comp for the 1st it's fantastic really want to join this so good that I'm not only is not 7 years ago. It's taken it to the 2nd image and see heart attack yeah and he was spent refit stabilized and then sent to broad green who also absolutely brilliant your bed follow you around and broke green as well. As the room of each and every web Yes. Steps 7 years ago now he's 19 he was 19 in a early September Well good on him that he's in a battle by laughter was true he had the heart operation costs a lot wrong with him but we still ocelots go to the hospital you know he's home and because I'm on his feet between then and the stroke Centrum to softly I can't remember if I've written to both a pulse Bittles I'm glad you don't exactly important that we let people know when they see as well in that way yes well I've never had to complain when we've seen Bolton is a Go case had a lot over the it and they were brilliant to not live without Thank you and God knows he's just a very well. Ok thanks versions of good good child thank you that's Dorothy that 1st one called groom's week calling for more than a calling we have to. Roger Good afternoon to you yeah right 12 different hospitals in England once again 12 yes started in back about 1960 right back to Cat accident. Then later got moved to press them then got moved to. Them Southport then I have a heart attack it was in well about 3 weeks. Then the eyes went it was in St Paul's I play operations. And my eyes went again and it moved to the Royle so I had clear operations in The Royle. Game then. Yes but he will of God I am as fit as a butcher's does at the moment talking to a. Holistic up good weld all the bone things are coming back now that I'm getting up to 80 blows you know you think you got away with broken bones when you young boy it comes back and in later life so you want to see me n.h.s. Change and then over the sound yeah but every sing every So every one of them hospitals have mentioned them out yet I couldn't fault one of them for their care and attention Well Bill a little broad green was fantastic you know for the hard jobs and I ended up in Basingstoke with my eyes again. Yet and them the best hospital was like a 5 star hotel. In Avin Brooks and Basingstoke in came the abduction came in. And. Got me eyesight back. Maggie in the morning and Margaret Thatcher in the morning had been Frank Bruno and then either. I remember my guide to the hospital. Like a 5 star hotel I knew you were the same same consultant afterwards exactly the same chap on the national health so god knows how much thank God and Maggie had paid you didn't have to be that good no no I got took by a private car from South because from Liverpool because the surgeon in Liverpool's said look this guy let's calm him down to do Maggie and cranky or this is the best so we'll send you by a cab house or jumped in the car. And was operated on within about 3 hours again it's amazing. You have had some experiences that oh yes the changes but my best one was Spain yet on holiday and. I don't know what I was all got was Goldstone's but I thought it was another half attack because somebody would have stolen from the pain is just everywhere and you don't know where it's coming from so immediately I thought it was. So the wife rang the ambulance and they had the ambulance come and then and then it down the road right out and they said it was them. Medical certificates. We don't know the man's in pain. And the switch think they switched the buzzer off the men then the wife ran off the road with a credit card I think it was 80 pounds for the ambulance because it's 2 different types of ambulance in Spain you can get a private ambulance that will take you to a private hospital so I can get the the normal one we were just on looking up the private one right so the switch they made in ceased was up she then of their old windows and go out the cash machine came back pay them and then they switched the switch the bullshit on again. On Up we went to hospital in Spain at the hospital is something that I'm going to leave in the cold I'm afraid Ok please wait you tell the story well I'm just. 12 my bills refused to. Go in that I might just go in there for a while because he by giving me he's going to. Say he's amazing.

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