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Factor to it Michael really nailed the performance Nick Hatton has the fines I sports Great Britain have moved a step closer to Fed Cup promotion after Katie bolter and Hannah counter sales victory over hungry with 2 grueling 3 sat wins both one in final set time breaks bolts of beating down a golfing welcomes a overcame an a bond or a sense of a tie against Serbia later today for a place in April's promotion playoffs elsewhere had read from Billie shuttle to ascent Sheffield united to the top of the championship as they raced into a 3 no lead at Aston Villa but goals from Tara Mings Tommy Abraham and Andre green in the last 10 minutes or the game and 3 all it means United States 3rd trying to Rebecca Menzies has confirmed that 3 horses under her care have been tested for AK wind flew 174 stables around the country are in lockdown as testing continues with a keeper Ben folks as been dropped with Keaton Jennings recalled for England's final Test against West Indies which starts this afternoon Alan got their women 6 Nations campaign back on track with a bonus point 225 win over Scotland Saracens are through to the Premiership Cup Final after beating was 3822 and Super League holders Wigan scored 6 tries to beat Leeds 3416 and bounced back from their opening day to Fate however it's 2 defeats from 2 for the rhinos Melanie Premier League football to anyone else quality on the show to be actually coaching area to watch Here's Mike Ritchie with the police when you catch up to. 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And thanks for joining us this week on 5 Live boxing with Costello on bones sort of time Steve when the heavyweight division globally is covered in a veil of confusion and comedy if you don't mind me saying so months and weeks and days rapidly passing and still no dates no venue's and no opponents for the world's finest heavyweights I'm going to hear also this week from Bob Arum stave one of the greatest of all time in terms of promoters over 50 years in the business from play are Lee Pacman the world's greatest promoter new gives us his unique sight on the modern world we're going to look back at the weekend's events here and in the United States and we'll hear from shame of Quicken talking about Josh Taylor and where he is in his push towards World Championship status but 1st we'll look at any weekend's events here and in the United States the viewer working in a Box Nation studio overnight Saturday night Sunday morning for the bill which was top 10 Texas spies surrogate cover Levon L.A. To Alvarez their rematch for the W.B. I light heavyweight championship I thought all in all that was 1st car show full of fights Mike that you like to think if you want to hear from 2 foot into 5 past 7 in the morning you make it worthwhile for people to hang up you know afford it was winter out without. The moon was so bright it was like walking on a summer's day it was a genuine party night walking out into the light that was a great blow away for we had that we had a version of Isaac dug by Richard called me win a world title in the 1st fight and then we had this guy T. a Female Lopez this young kid on beats and in a real in a real cause of ask about is returning to God it should a full call from the last year and top of the bill so gay called to live in some kind of crazy redemption fresh from a mountain with the scary priest holy mountain in Greece to the ring in frisk Oh Dallas you can't eat your car right headlines like that even Huey even me even even though. Great McAvennie would have struggled to have made sense of the loop itself it was a great night you let them pump try and sleep well you did it how do you had to sleep you must have a coffee did before you sleep I thought it was one of these examples where the cover life against Alvarez Alvarez a caused one of the biggest upsets in world boxing last year by beating coverlet for the title I thought it was one of these examples where in the rematch motivation is so much easier to source for the loser 1st time around and I thought that was evident in the work and they. Just the manner in the endeavor of this time around he didn't feel like victory was was his right even he felt like he had to go in on it and he did I think some of the some of the. Coverlets problems from the 1st 5 hours were smashed a bit stop 3 times 3 times in the 7 stop when he was really known all free on a physical cause one of if it was quite slim was Andre Ward a man who'd be a couple of back in 2016 and stopped him in 2007 he said he's a bully he's dependent on fear and I crushed him and I ruined him a got inside his head and I'm not I'm not going to I'm going to stretch something here Mike but I'm allowed to I'm going to I'm going to like and call the live in the Ward fight as he went in and beaten having crushed everybody was known as crushing smashing everybody he was absolutely the man to miss He was the biggest The real big for me and he got destroyed by Andre Ward a relatively light puncher but a tech Titian who end up dropping him and stopping him and bashing him up unbelievably in a 2nd for so little bit like a little bit like foreman in the rumble when he got rumbled in the jungle against Ali in a sense and he went in there invincible and he never recovered my you never recovered so when he quit 3 years later you had to recover and it took in 13 years to recover before he came back in the ring now I got a little bit of that with cover left because since that since that last case had a couple of wins and then he had the defeat to Elvira's But Mark he he fell apart we know he tried to commit suicide when he drove his car off the road at 90 miles an hour he's involved in an altercation he claims is innocent but it's going to end up in court on assault charges and then when he was Lois the gone back to Russia even though he lives in California now he ends up and I made a joke of it but he ends up with this this far with a group of monks up in the mountain holy mountain in Greece any rediscovered himself so what we saw was an awful lot of redemption in the ring that night but there was a point and I know you would have seen an end to the 6 round 6 rounds up he's having a fight flat out the concentrations there are always looks poor but it's a. Levon because he's making him look cool and he goes back into the 6 rounds of the site that's it now and they're all going to get knocked out in a 7 for what he was exactly the same Look at his face and I said I was really Barry Barry Jones asleep as it is you know we all look to our knowledge he's not going to jump on the floor is that what it looked like when you said there that it reminded you of how George Foreman was rumbled in the jungle when he was beaten that night George Foreman said that he felt he lost something as a man being go as well as a boxer and that's why it was interesting that Culver left produced what he did on the night against Alvarez going in if you like against the ghost all over again and in the end of sizing that guy it was it was that goes but it was also a little bit every so was taken when he lost to it to Walt so it was suffering from that and then of course he gets smashed to bits by about it so he's got in the ring you know the expression fire and feel life I know it's cliched no views but Mike if ever there was a professional boxer fighting for reason salvation fighting for his life it was surrogate couple of a man who bought away said some things and done some things in the past which doesn't necessarily make him easy to like but when he came out for the 7th off the body is new cool about his 1st call a 92nd since the last toward when he came out in the 7th he's like rejuvenated 41 clearly awfully well no other one judge Lisa seems to forget in a name she got him up and she got $120.00 hunger and I thought it was a shutout it was close to a master class and I know I've always was poor but he kept kept told be in poll couldn't couldn't do a thing awful it was awful it was masterful Coble if I was really pleased he on the cards in Texas beneath Calvillo and Alvarez I was impressed with Valdez who might be fighting at some stage in the future Josh Warrington that's that's the fight that was touted after Warrington at Baden Frampton a Christmas where now knowing that this week there are persecutes for Warrington against Kit Galahad so it might be that Warrington against Valdez if it happens happens later down the line not a fight on the on the cars stave off a motor. Yes against magdaléna Lopez being touted by many as one of the best prospects and well boxing he's got a lot to do to convince me just say I'm just saying as they have but I mean it struck me when I watched Lopez there Steve I think he's in danger of becoming another kind of a tree and browner Yeah I think I think you know what it wants to be more like you know this idea that it had to do is dance whatever it is no one to call or stopping the problem was the 1st to polish 1st of all he was incredibly brave Mick Jagger magdaléna and in a when he was doing well when he was having a fight and it was great stuff but he got knocked out nastily unnecessarily The referee should have definitely moved in certainly before the 2nd of those left hooks and then to start the remark or Las Vegas count when you're on one knee and you're counting over a body that's not even moving that's disgraceful and all the while Lopez's off the way he's dance in the cold I could live with I can live with adults can live with adults in a corner and they're in that's no problem someone shoots someone so much you get in a car with that it's not been all there but it was that movement or whatever we did right behind Diego magdaléna these 6 inches from the head that's outrageous just show some sense save to scoop him out but it was a cracking show it was already through it was a cracking show the kind of show that Bob Arum would have been proud of one of the if not the greatest promoter of all time he's been involved since Mohammad Ali and George followed back in 1966 he was in London just recently we heard from him on a podcast a couple of weeks ago giving us his assessment of the heavyweight division right now and how he thinks Tyson Fury is the biggest name in a division across the United States I was talking to him generally about his career about the changing consumer habits and how the boxing fan now gets access to the big fights and I started by talking to him about Mickey tough the late great make it off one of the greatest promoters or managers or most controversial figures in boxing over here for many decades before his death in the past decade or so Mickey Duff once said to me that when I asked him why he was. Being on satellite deep into he said he's got some many people to get even with and I put that to him Well that really isn't my story I know Mickey said that and he believed that I'm mad I want to get even on with anybody I mean with me a lot of people who have had B.'s through it you know I've forgiven and just go on you can't really let it eat you up so the Jew look to get revenge that is a waste of your time it would be a waste of my time what I like is promoting fights developing fight is and I think it's very very rare Wendy but the truth is I don't want to get revenge on anybody. How do you assess the not just the television landscape but now the broadcast landscape with streaming and other ways of accessing the coverage of boxing now how how much better is it for the fans and how much more difficult has it made it for you as a promoter Bob Singh is in demand by everyone because the leagues are all tied up in deals whether it's English Premier Soccer American football and American baseball so those are difficult to really use to build a streaming network or a regular network but boxing is there to be grabbed by everybody whether it's the zone with the. Ska or ourselves with. An E.S.P.N. Plus So what it really does is give the greatest opportunity for success and notoriety that we've had in decades so I welcome it and I think all promote is should welcome it and should find ways to were. Together it's no secret here. I had one more fight left with Eddie Hearn in the U.K. But because he has the opportunity to make a good bit of money fighting Crawford in the United States and he generously went along with it and that's the way it should be I mean we in boxing now have the opportunity to really grow the sport I've been doing this for more than 50 years and for example in the U.K. I have never seen boxing as robust as it is now. And in terms of. Promoting the likes of a Terrence call for it as a launching in the United States but also globally is it more difficult now than it was when you were promoting the likes of Leno and those glorious days of the 1980s when it seemed everybody knew who they were. I had come up in the business promoting my my dolly and I was. A friend and close to people like Jesse Jackson and Reverend Sharpton like that and so I had then I believe that I understood the urban community in the United States well I did for the old guys but not for the young kids so that completely completely was not in my radar so I just had no idea what was happening out there with the rap saying years of the kind of. Enthusiasm and how many of them were on social media platform Floyd to his credit did and when they after that was very successful and says a lot for his perception almost as a businessman that wasn't described as a face and they he saw that opportunity I don't know was a businessman I don't know whether it was instinctive but the quick but it's undeniable that he was right. Well there and there's they even though I'm fascinated by that Floyd Mayweather story there's lots to go out in that interview with Bob Arum and we're going to come on very shortly to talk about the heavyweight scene as it stands now because of his comments a few weeks ago where we've been since then but that story about Floyd Mayweather when he bought out his promotional contract from Bob Arum around 20052006 for $750000.00 they're admitting that Mayweather saw an audience a market that he couldn't quite tap into and couldn't. In any way relate to and I think if you're looking at the best business moves made by a boxer rather than a promoter or a manager in the history of the sport that can't be far short of number one when you go on to look at what he did since then creating like a $1000000000.00 worth of pay per view revenue revenue you know I think how much of that went his own pockets who knows but he's become a very very rich man and even Bob Arum saying much much wealthier than he would have been having start with our much wealthier because if Bob's agreed agreed to sell his contract 475-0000. Even into fouls and 5 that's not a law that's not that much Mike you know I mean you know let's not if you set off a guard at some beats and he's already won world side those you know he's a limping success was 9 years earlier he's moving through White's handling good fire as easily I'm always surprised by that low figure but at the same time what Floyd took was a giant leap of Fife OK a giant leap for perhaps part of what was built into ball balancing There was thinking I guess 750000 now but don't worry it will be back in 6 months anyway back in a year and I can carry on making money money when it tells you a lot about how much Bob Arum wasn't making with Floyd Mayweather But Floyd Mayweather took that jump and at that time Mike there wasn't the brand recognition that's available now there wasn't you know he didn't. You don't walk into an enormously established in industry he walked into something that was being created be informed as he jumped in and as he joined it so he he he was part of that and it moves away from perhaps just straight forward music in it's far more as Bob said you know the urban culture what it was and what Bob's what Bob was saying there by mentioning as many high place black cultural figures as possible while Sharpton Jesse Jackson I'm surprised you didn't mention Diana Ross who of course was ringside all of the volley in the sixty's and the seventy's I mean you feel about it you know the Supremes in the Marvelettes you could have the beautiful the feel the full thing what he was talking about there Bob Well black Americans you know and tat market and Floyd jumped in and embraced black Americans and sucked in that marketplace and commanded it controlled it and absolutely lord it over and still does to this day which is why he generates the sums he generates but we were talking about and he mentioned on the podcast a couple of ways go say that he felt Tyson Fury at the moment would be ranked by most Americans as the number one heavyweight in the division and it's still a pretty confusing state all this time and we didn't think this far into this the Pinta the new year to to get some settled dates and matches fury and wilder is I'm convinced an absolute down there I think what's being worked out his way to announce it and maybe we're to have it whether it's New York whether it's Las Vegas which Los Angeles again watching seasons they have in the bill generally the O 2 got me to thinking about what's what's lurking beneath those 5 world champions that Britain have the moment Anthony Joshua Callum Smith a super middleweight Josh Warrington we've spoken about him down at the lighter whites Charlie Edwards and Cal yeah fire and just Taylor is ranked number 2 by Ring magazine which gives you an indication of how he's making an impact globally in the sport. And I was talking last week to train a shame again who was around at a retirement announcement of George Groves who of course he changed trained in the latter part of George's career and Shane was telling me how I've been feeling frustration lack of momentum now in just titles Korea I mean it is not necessarily losing momentum it's just you know Josh has been extremely active in his career and he's East he's he's made huge waves so quickly and since going. I feel like coming away from me he's going to. He's going to be recognized as the number one in the division. Over there and money wins it but something of a full confidence in him doing is just you know we want to be to be televised around the world and make a star for this kid because this is a time to really these the thoughts that will make him household name and. I think you know keeping the momentum escape. Given the top level fighters you've been involved with what is it about that makes him a long in the top category. In combination between is and and his toughness you know he's a hard hard bloke and. You know even loves to fight in close aides he's not face he's a little bit too brave sometimes. He listens you know he's had a couple of so you know and you know sort of setbacks but so realisations in his career with the victim possible for you know he's been in against hard punches and needed really take possible power to seriously got hit with a good show but not that natural fight and spirit he has he's able to hold of the right times and that's the stuff that means a close eye contact him so he's got the ability to become a superstar on this in this division. And also in Britain is going to be hard because. I mean so much but it's a kind of change in it's hard when you've got the watts of George it's just retarded if you go and Brooks who's on his way out upon. The main face in A.J. But you know they're looking for. A lighter sort of star and I think just a list that guy is spin is power and he always it will be an exciting fights because he's brave. As hell and Shane is right and his father was the ultimate crossover You know he was rent a quote Barry when he was box it wherever it was just the yes miss the Mr Eastwood It was Spector if the press loved going in the in the night but it didn't seem like it was hard work Stephen if it is for Georgette Heyer then you've got to be careful that it doesn't undermine what ethos in the ring and shame was saying there that he likes to let his boxing do the talking although I have to say being around they misspell a lot of time with him when call from Tim 40 of Santa Cruz in a rematch in Las Vegas and a saint more than happy to tell you he's with the media and to chant to talk so maybe it's different around fight time when there's when is a bit more pressure on him than there was there when he was you know in an earlier stage of his career but he's had 14 fights take me some talent now I know he's out a welter of amateur experience but as I said number 2 in the Ring magazine writing saved the top 10 in each white division I looked through all of the writings there are 20 Britons ranked by Ring magazine in their top $1025.00 in boxing Monthly's world ranking so a lot of potential for fighters like just Tiger and those who are not quite as advanced as him just yet to push through and maybe challenge for a world title sometime soon I don't think is maybe I think just Taylor included I think between a word to that would mean $24.26 British boxers who challenge for a world title this year that that's slightly expanded on the rings top 10 box in Monthly's top 10 dragon in one of 2 guys the of not the not made the top 10 but I still think we'll get a chance. And then I think there's another half a dozen we've an outside chance of being stepped in and these are for the 4 major titles like so it's going to be the I.B.S. The W B O W B I only said it can't be for the interim W.P.A. Or the regular W B I think we might get as many as 40 it will certainly get $24.00 charges yet and what's interesting is this year is. Jen's gone and seen the leaven month boxing year. And you know I'm saying that we're left 21 including the world champions we could have 35 British boxers in world title fights just reflecting on what we were talking about last week's they've there's been a lot of interest and reaction to carry case masterclasses you on the list a dealing of cuts dealing with cuts in the corner Gulf at 123 on i Tunes has blown away listening to carry case talk about cuts would love to hear more bits like this to know more about the people behind the boxes Smokin Joe enjoyed the chat about the impact of digital media Thanks also to Benjamin rubble mark 4.60 on Twitter Steve Gadd C.C.C. Said Kerry Kayes was eyeopening pardon the pun I think you could do better than that 3rd children more from the Count's man about what happens in a minute between rounds than watching boxing for 40 years Bill Simpson ready Graham at Shepherdson Kevin FITZSIMMONS Jimmy McGoldrick Nick Taylor who we've also heard from an email today all of award dynamo L F C Christopher Scott Rossini Richie Boucher all saying it was a fascinating fascinating interview with Kerry carries a couple of slaps on the wrists they've got I see says See feels the need to say let's get it right a quadrillion times per podcast if you actually look back Mike hadn't shown me that this spice it might in the show me that but that's the 1st time that that phrase has been mentioned on the show you have dragged us down spicy I'm really disappointed in that you've tracked this down let's get it right you've tracked this down in case he wears it had a dig at me Costello by the Swedish not American yet again that wrong when he For James the gal eventually got around to saying American based on what he can get that really was against a couple his Liberian Swedish so Gambian Gambians off was like. Poor But I do Jack it's like state less and you know what you know you know what more you know but exactly came over last year he came over to the see him at the pickle gym in East London the gym run by the Bowers brothers with Dubois and her. Right and he's involved also if you G. Projects you know we may be we may be needed maybe down the line Asterix Let's get it right we need to speak about it Jack because he's a very interesting guy a man address Costello on down cept baby Sedaka keep on coming thank you very much for all of your reviews and responses on email i Tunes and on Twitter stay this one from Howard radio radio off he says or I fell as a few episodes ago bouncing mention that his 2nd sport is surfing was bouncy for real Yeah it was for real 17 years of age in the South Pacific there were genuine coconut husk buttons on my one shirt so to my one shirts about buttons I've got some vintage buttons and I've served the most use and you find a big points of served often by being tap in that dream forever. Now he's no wiser . Now he doesn't have a clue young written room Steve Bunce I bought a wife I'm not 5 lives surfing correspondent in Tokyo I'm going over to the other side I was in a domino it's OK. I have to pay for a stays it is not going to be in. A few months it could spoke the way. Because it is a desperate situation and still no movement on that limb pick controversy but we've seen a few people discussing the podcast stayed on the boxing reddit so we're going to set up a thread this week for anyone who wants to talk to other fans of the podcast just search for Reddit boxing Costello and dancing get involved if you're interested and we might read out some of the responses and they debates next week but that's it for now from 5 Live boxing with Costello and bounce. For the. Home digital B.B.C. Sound small street. Is B.B.C. Radio 5 the latest news headlines on 5 lines on Shall the. The N.H.S. 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Overcame an abundance and 2 hours and 46 minutes the British number one says she drew on her experience to get through to taking a lights out big part of that match which are as I say very tough to be on the receiving end of been very happy with the way I was able to even at times where where it was quite frustrating to just come back with a myself and keep a good perspective and just try to get one point of time and about. Victories has a tie against Serbia later today about for a place in a proper promotion play offs now a 100 probably Charbel to have sent Sheffield united to the top of the championship as they race into a 3 nil lead Aston Villa with just 8 minutes to go but goals from Tara mains and Tommy Abraham led to a nervy finish Villa Park Andre Green's injury time had a securing a $33.00 draw it means United States 3rd in the table but United manager Chris water was impressed with the performance of his place so we were outstanding but we've come to a proper football club and put a right display on which rightly going to the opposition and dominating one mistake by the goalkeeper. You give good players a little bit of a sniff for 5 minutes but I've got 5 minutes of the game and possibly not even not a outbreak of highly contagious echoing flu that's cause chaos in racing appears to be growing further positive tests have shown up at the Cheshire stables are trying to Donal McCain and 3. Horses at another unconnected racing yard are under investigation he's a racing correspondent Cornelius license 3 more positive tests Donald McCain's operation including from razor spark which potentially significantly left the stables to race and air on Wednesday brings to 6 the number of horses infected in his powerful string hundreds of race horses have been examined there at all training stables that sent runners to fixtures this week where the McCain team was also represented the figure being analyzed rose when reports of sickness emerged at trainer Rebecca Menzies yard near Stockton on Tees in all 174 racing stables are under scrutiny Meanwhile the British Horseracing Authority has rejected claims that it may have overreacted by canceling racing from Thursday until Wednesday next week at least England have ben folks and recall key Jennings for the final Test against West Indies that gets underway this afternoon Alan got the woman 6 Nations campaign back on track last thanks to a bonus point 225 win over Scotland simply hold as Wigan they scored 6 tries as they beat Leeds 3416 to bounce back from their opening day to Fate had coach Adrian Lam happier with the window rather than a performance better than last week in some areas in our field that you know we're a little bit disorganized in defense although I thought we probably missed 10 opportunities with the ball so I think that should pretty much put the team in in perspective I was happy that we we got a lot more shipe and we played a little bit more rugby but it was on our we missed a lot of opportunities in attack and defensively we just little bit shady at times it's 2 defeats from 2 for the rhinos and in sneaker alley Castlereagh his 1st ranking final for 2 years that's thanks to a 6 nil thrashing of China's shout out dong at the Will Grand Prix in Cheltenham That's the latest from B.B.C. Sport break this is Chris Warburton and Oldroyd Inhofe an era 1st to look ahead to this weekend's football with Robbie Savage this is a pretty recorded programs that please don't call or text feces 5 long days while the savages. The city of the Premier League. Was never. Big. But. Was able to put 3 points. About. 5 field. From the galaxy on the opposite of a judge me to talk about this week's big game for. Evidence the Blue Room head to head with my pocket for the rookery. CLASH IN THE. Thomas who will be here with a social media around the plan of my brother will be here with the 3 Premier League for Texas fall this weekend you can get involved by using high stacks average soldier on social media Texas on a 50058 how much the college I got the flu so all my voice is not sounding very good but anyway never mind about that good morning dum 5 you know how you find things that we have. Not very well done but I'm getting through it all right the let's say Chelsea big game of the week Man City after the defeat against Newcastle style look looking good once again yeah they are quite a rugged. Chelsea Chelsea at the So they will challenge them they will test them but that's so worldly and predicts we just I would like to lose 4 No one we can 5 no cup at I guess when 5 no couple of days later such a team sort of adjusting to playing in the why them are. Sorry wants them to do and they're not quite there yet but let's see how they do they seem to doze off in games that look at their defeat so Arsenal wolves and spurs and even born with that there's sort of periods in patches where they just get sort of fall asleep in a completely overwhelmed and that's what city will target in this match on Sunday and Pepper said this week the more than 2 clubs can win the Premier League you mentioned United and Chelsea cat that's not going to happen as this city of Liverpool City Liverpool and Spurs are going outside chance unless the long course for about 87 points if they can win it no not realistically you know I think that they'll be proven their squad to be too thin ultimately but they still had a brilliant season with United and Chelsea you know why I mean you know it came from way too far back and Chelsea just too inconsistent to win it Crystal Palace against West Ham dorms no czar you know he's got another game but as in is you think I was right no I don't think there's a lot of inconsistency there think we got shown that are going on a bit actually his reaction to being booked for diving in the game but against selling to the other guy sort of shows that there is consistency there and out there half similar reaction to feeling unjustly booked and he's getting a 2 match ban effectively on top of that I wonder whether Palace perspire only appeal and serve they can play him against West Ham this weekend and then maybe take the one match ban against on caster in the F.A. Cup next weekend I thought West Ham were fantastic you know against Liverpool Well what you're made of Declan RICE This is a phenomenon he's an absolute from I can see why carousels got so desperate for him to pledge is featured so England Timmy's he's really grown into I'm glad that US never saw today's contract your situation is I've got a long term future at the London stadium they need to do that because they have to build their team around him he's such a talent I'm glad you mentioned they asked the band situation as I watched that game on T.V. And if I was asked the bans I'm not being funny Dom rightly or wrongly I would have reacted the exact same way it was a stall wall penalty and if I had. Been shown. To be human so what a good time to bring in John that money is owed because you know I got it right may I want our net apparently and I want to do you keep your read all the town do you know again given. For them things you know you guys are saying. When. You know there's this thing from a you know I mentioned afterwards you know I think I think referees have a tough job I think now almost nothing that was a few of the I think I have a tough job it just. Become part of sort of a dog the big thing for me is how you could do for simulations a lot. About. Reaction are things reacting is probably not hard because there's predatory pre-hospital Cardiff City about I surely don't know if you actually caught your guard on. The thought I got out of the cards that are similar so I think you know I'm on more into the bigger picture is you know a lot completely for naturally I don't know it's down to the referees are just outright starts when they start like it but I know it when it's over actually that I've got a. Lot of claims on them but I will say I think referees that we trust. The referees and the manager 3 toughest jobs any given to manage the Syrian side of the years I think it's very difficult job. I think that will help them how it's fully and I think if they could just for that of so many 30 Embiid in the pen in 2150 and I tell a bear record was what you put this down to hard work on a sending ground I think I think is where everything I think you know the coming together of mentality after a tough start of the save many many different ways of solving obviously there's the rifle a can of up and forget we have a lot of it's called the safe way without some injuries which is very grassroots we don't we already carry many soft tissue injuries returns or not a few serious ones but not so much of substance. So that's that's not a big effect on. The turn of the white point where the toughest type I think the mentality of I think you know we have call almost the N.R.A. Put a lot of executives Well it was announced of the fact I think we couldn't quite find a consistent form level and I think we're beginning to find that. People are not just asked that we've got a couple key decisions where we could've you know don't cry didn't because you know why it might get a point and stuff but we could have easily. And yeah you made a side in pay a crowd you know and I made it impact stray way again Southampton. You know a lot talk about it you know we have a business model is very tough for Actually Michael was. The chairman of the board I want to run him and why don't touch the club's long term future just like it's a financially so went when it comes right for a player which he was right so deeply impressed by the wind I'll think a lot of it. Right I'm a star which is not a good club when it crouches in the deal it worked and we saw it work for the prior . Fresh challenge it worked for us financially but also work to get the top class at a food you know I think it's down to a job and we're pleased I'm going to need them for to Macau to make. The ion and the parity M.E.P. People have because of the offer Werman I mean you must be welcoming its introduction next season he said laughing I think to be honest I think it's made it because I don't much of the stuff astronomy types of always want to talk about carry on with that but I think it's going to help 12 years later I think calques given the story the panel said they could just referee know it was someone else who can you know sort things out is when they'd all be insulated were all the way straight for them and the biggest thing I think there will still be some really good politics where it's going to be tough to disorder think you'll find them to be nice quickly because as people saw is to use the word. It was hard it was stayed up generally speaking if you talk about dealing with very top knowledge it was just too difficult like us you know we saw him for every inch that we can get then I think it's important just brings much clarity to guys as possible and this lets us so much to lose and so most guys would probably like to take each other I think if they didn't look identical I think with technology probably a lot to get quicker and a little strain Well I don't think it'll be years of rugby What's what's a way to get to grips you know one thing the fans on 6 o 6 say to me you know fans of the last Middlesborough West problem show you've had that modern day football found one attractive excited retail ball when improbable but sometimes it's not like that is it I think you are saying every manager every culture about what we talk about 1st team football trans women succeed is different useless law what is the teaching the best whites are the most skilful like the technical ones of playing without doubt when it comes to 1st a world you've got to win games although. It will take a look how could reply lose that weight I'm never not a fan of. Every fan wants to win so as to inform us and then of course as you said Every manager we turn to if you can when we start will you every wants to do the job is just improbable it's not possible it's a probable cause to think with last night football a lot of players like to apply is going success you know not all the parts are bad but their families as well as the successes weighed out and I think our family joys of are going to tell you one thing we will do our part to give everything a logical fashion still wants to say good was good as with things so that quote That's a lot and I'll personally do that as a minimum I meant on stuff that we can we can be productive quite beautiful. But without a time when a very difficult you point same to. Them believable cricket all of the technical choirs was certainly the top 600 years ago it's very difficult to type them up there was not to follow the wife to go out with married inside Miller. Good luck this weekend against Bryan game on BT Sport thanks for joining us John Kerry. Has taken so there from Sean Di affective football nuts what it's about right it's time to go head to head what the ever turn Good morning guys. All the good the bad the ugly rides so in the blue we have from Everton the Blue Room podcast Good morning good morning Rob your carry on in the black car is my parking from what foods from the rookery handbook as good morning Mike good morning to you that music. Loved it also I stood up primary goals already my. Right you know words 30 seconds to answer the question I ready Mike really tell me why your current head coach Jerry Grassi is a better manager than your former head coach my goals over. Where to start one of the nicest things about have is a actually spends his time working for the. Club instead of constantly checking his phone to messages from other clubs he might be on the lookout for a new head coach humble he's friendly and he's worked hard to earn the respect of the board the players and the fans perhaps most important of all though you have a classy recognizes the opposition case is a thing to be defended not just admired as they fly into his own teams and how aggressive is a top shot man is the future will force a strong star from. The right Mike after spending big last summer how do you rate Mark also was 1st season and well he still will be will he still be in charge of the Toffees at the start of next season. Obviously a very promising final sort of our final I'm reliant on confidence and that's clearly not there at the moment construct it was he was caught remember Charleston open for the interim so promising to be owners come out this week and. This is a long term project but I'm sure a line from Suva to shorten. The times of peace is also if it doesn't source it will probably just pop on to watch for the promise of monitor Awesome awesome awesome. My your side of failed us to have a single shot on target against rights and strikers Gray Davis got tangled the tween name who you back in just gone and sat down who will cause Everton the biggest problems as we all know he doesn't join the limelight and he'll say this big game is a big opportunity to get himself into the headlines for the right reason so I'm backing back in Troy to get on the scoresheet I also I think an old Everton favorite I don't know if he has a favorite actually but Jerry Jarrett their telephone has a bit to prove he didn't have a great spell there. Are going to since I think you'll find See found himself to get on the scoresheet telephone thing to score Pereira's back I think he'll have something to prove after Dickon fall is incredibly skillful he can change a game. Talisman and citizen were both on the bench against Manchester City what other changes to the team you'd like to see silver make tomorrow to get you there when. We showed signs of this right from the. More structured 11 flotsam it feel free I mean that's what we need for a site desperate for results especially going away to a site that dominated us physically equal to some a season should be an obviously it's a bit of a creativity issue the strikers KA-BOOM intrusion still fight out I expect you're welcome to come oh no Laura Charlus not. Trying to come is more than what you think continue for Coleman and the fact that we're seeing this is a big game against what should pretty much. Every go and buy That was great so but the actions mark but the action. I think will just about Nick this one for one Mike . I think this is going to go to go to plan for what for a change 3 no one would come on. Guys like the joys brilliant stuff no it's nice guys Joe 2 good morning in the morning sad was my intro music job on the football daily morning Joe morning where's my interviews if you haven't got any because. I don't know why only way his exit when you go off is what you often are let's get on then with the title race you guys have already mentioned it well I threw that question who is going to win the title out to the listeners at home a lot people seem to be split but not our listeners 60 percent think Man City just 26 percent Liverpool and 14 percent Tottenham so not as close as some people might think on Thursday as well as city has to be Everton to go top but I think it's fair to say quite a few toughies fans didn't mind if 50 percent of the fans I saw interviewed on the day seemed to want their own side to. Absolutely menso but fair enough to a level. 32 a level I mean I didn't see one interview with a guy who claimed he wanted Everton to lose because a Liverpool fan had spray painted F C on the side of his dog. 150000 views that. Is fair enough. Let's stick with challenges that mention Man City captain Vincent Kompany was trending number 3 in the U.K. This week has the Belgian star posted a tackle for Manchester of and attempting to tackle homelessness on the streets of the city raised over $216000.00 pounds on the night and the event was attended by the likes of where oh so sharp and Gary Lineker brilliant gestures also some reports that he's donated a large proportion of his wages this season to homelessness you know wonderful to have you know with Andy Burnham as well as I was a leadership by Vincent company the side the city face this week and the like you already mentioned are Chelsea but their star player Eden Hazard has made headlines about exits yet again so I wanted to ask you and Dawn if you were even has art would you stay at Chelsea or would you go to Madrid. I think you'll go to Madrid I think he wants to go to Madrid I think he's waiting for me to put in the Royal for the Chelsea that's acceptable if I was at and yeah probably go and play very Madrid OK There we go let's finish with our fantasy football picks then sad because last week I went for Gonzalo higuaín. Not bad shot was it by to brace Carlin behavior for probably pole seen as just a 2nd it's able to me for this week I've kept the I'm kept in more solid against Bournemouth who. Gets born. Pretty time and there are job related stuff once again or is but you mentioned rare Madrid there Joel I listen let's bring in a realm of xplain I was only the Ballon d'Or when I might go and money mode. Like I just. Get better everywhere you know more you know I'm I'm listening to a lot of people said Liverpool ball in it but you know what may have lost one game this season this OK the not top league now but they when they gave in and they go 3 points clear that having a wonderful season it's unbelievable Yeah I don't think there's there's I mean what I would say it was a little bit of nervousness the last game I was I was there. Was a little bit nervous us but I descended from the crowd a little bit I don't think the players you know were going to bat for it and I only found out side up so I think you know the game in hand level on points I mean what more could you ask. For for this position so it's I don't really buy a little bit of wobble up just looking down at the the sort the last 10 results I mean the batter the Manchester City so it's only you know what I think it was it was up before it was pretty out which people are so stupid on the part I think it's a store but you know club doesn't make many mistakes one has in the season mall today one mistake might be inclined go on loan to Bournemouth. Yeah I think that a relevant point that we have made I do make of now and again more. Than a while. Now I think Judge the builder was was brilliant. For a large part of the last season. And you know he's the sort you go play we all know he's not a natural right back to. The spill that requires a failed in but I think Alexander Arnold is virtually back now so hopefully that's going to solve that problem but yeah I do what you say and I just. Know that Dale may be in the past can go because it seems strange what Michael has done 5 years ago to him here. I thought boom authorise Chelsea faunal the other way with 4 goals on the counter-attack and that's one of the can very hurt Liverpool side they have without Joe Gomez in their defense as well can we hurt them at Anfield you think playing on the counter-attack. Well I think the calendar certainly capable of doing livable trashed that place not so long ago so you know they've obviously got the skills to the people on earth. But I think you know as much as I still don't believe the Liverpool have a novel I still think they're in good form and everything else I mean you would look at it and think it is a good time to play you know one of these suspensions to a big player. Just maybe if the crowd get a little bit of us that it might be a good time to play them but on balance of a call a father should not expect them to get right back on track Gareth Bale Michael so he's getting criticized a one to get by the rail Madrid fans I think they get. Their Classico the couple dollar a mid Make it was one morning miss an opportunity how hard those fans to play he's got 2 goals in a chat measly $51.00 he won 3 or 4 chan his knee he's still getting criticised how hard of both hands to play. It's really strange and I think. A lot of people make their mind up and that is that. And I don't think. They're really that type of player I mean of course loads of people respect him. And the house just the most amazing things as you rightly just mention a lawful. It's hard to change the 1st impression just on sale that the word I hear and when I watch I just don't feel that he's ever been you know taken to like ministry on a road or you know around my time or you know real fans. Like that it's very hard to change people's mind what you do really and it's a shame because he has had an amazing time no matter what people say. He has that moment with him and with all the people forever so it's sad in a way but I don't think I can I don't. But you would lose so much sleep over it because he's done what he set out to do over there on eventual I'm sure he will come back to the shows right then more right and dumb dumb you know I heard my mother on the show before but you're going to hear now let's bring in the star of the show all. It's time for Robbie Savage is mom wow. That's correct prediction. Good morning mother 2. but you've got all the flu could get back to be you know you be allowed to get a lot of Michael into the. Guy. So you've extended your lead you now leading 4139 right so I already know he we go all the games this weekend it's Liverpool against bomb of Liverpool find themselves 2nd in the league after they squandered the chance to move 7 creator back to back games last year when I think they will get back to winning ways this weekend with our a man they scored and I'm going to know Michael I'll go one better I'm going to go the route soem I'm going for a reassuring 3 no home win as well I'm going to go $31.00 right mother it's the Marco Darby what for take on Everton macrocell is under pressure. Every kind of spent nearly 250000000 pound on players over the last season I went out but you don't you can under 30 years of closer to the top 6 than. Ever can can't use and defend set pieces I don't know Mark is playing to get back to man and get on with it but I don't go away for a while but when you find a lot most well your ball knows. I'm going to say yeah you know what I'm really very I think I'm going to go for it so what but when I'm going what food running amok set pieces 31 what's that now you know when I get up on. I'm going. To win 21 and then finally mother the big fixture the weekend it's Man City against Chelsea I thought the title race was. All exciting it's going to be tough yet you had to tell because they don't know if they're going to go up but they don't they don't play consistent and you know they're glad I don't need one more have trick to level the balance sheet so I'm growing 31 City MO Yeah I'm going to go to one and I'm going for twists in the Tyro's 11 I'm going to go I'm going to go for war managed to set say all right there mum why did this weekend oh yeah all right this is Love You see I said. I'm Michael what you got planned this weekend yeah. Yeah well are you amazed. Yeah yeah I've got a good line it's not only well we'll have a lot. More Listen it's about to me. What's your games this weekend I'm off for to Palace vs West Ham in the morning yeah I've seen my clue in about Real Madrid and got a bell what's your quick thoughts on how I think he's been an unbelievable success there I think you look back ace time I ran with it with a lot of pride and he's achieved so much that I do think it might be coming out now that there's a chance to come back to the Premier League in their own back not lead to think Well Chelsea Monita left sided forwards to do so I always bring with him so one of those 2 would say I don't listen thanks so much for joining us pleasure to me I really did fantastic so I think I got him again he's a well that I'm in a place of in a place of my called the. Big thank you to my kill and show on Dice great insight there from John dice the barely managing they take on Brian tomorrow teatime game dominant 5 filled my pocket from the podcast Joe Thomas and. If you did a show you cannot know the difference and all the usual places. 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