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And you can hear Benny Andersson of Abba sharing his thoughts on the new Mama Mia Farrow. This is b.b.c. 5 Live d.v.d. Series of our bloggers March and human to reason why to you lead is to create a new dynamic in Bright's it talks speaking during a working dinner in Brussels the Prime Minister insisted that firm progress is being made and urged everyone to reach an outcome they could stand behind and defend to their people maybe a shadow breaks it Minister Jenny Chapman says walking away without a deal would be disastrous it would mean there would be no transitional period in which businesses can adjust to a new regime there would be tariffs of say 3040 percent on some products including meat and dairy would have $3000000.00 people living in this country with no status I'm not relaxed about. The presidents of the European Council says the e.u. Won't be intervening in the situation between Spain and Catalonia the Spanish government says it will start taking some of the region's autonomous powers away on Saturday Donald Tusk has been speaking at the summit of e.u. Leaders in Brussels. Hiding to the situation in Spain is also linked but to position I mean. It's. Clear the. Rule of space for in the kind of mediation international initiative action the 2nd teenager has been arrested on suspicion of murder following a stabbing outside Parsons Green cheap station in London Police say 20 year old Ahmed Saidee was killed after asking a drug dealer and another man to leave the area sentries police say they're investigating another case of alleged sexual assault involving Harvey Weinstein the woman claims she was raped by the film producer in 2013 he's denied all claims of non consensual sex Tom Hanks has told the b.b.c. The claims must lead to change in Hollywood perhaps all men myself included should pipe down because what has to happen right now is every one of those women 100 percent of them need to be listened to the White House chief of staff says he was left broken hearted by claims from a Democratic congresswoman the President Trump was disrespectful in a phone call to the widow of a fallen soldier Donald Trump allegedly said Sergeant David Jones the new watch he was signing up for but he denies making those comments the Scottish government says it will back legislation making it illegal for parents to smack their children it means Scotland will be the 1st part of the u.k. To do say Reverend Martin is from the Free Church of Scotland I was brought in Scotland in the Scottish culture which I think accepted a certain form of operating in no other Mormon parents have the liberty to choose whether to include within the framework of the are bringing of the children physicality or not vote liberty is going to be taken away from them and I'm really concerned about a badger has been found sleeping in a cat bed at a house in West lady and the animal got in through a cat flap and fell asleep after eating all the cat's food it was the tent eventually tempted back outside Bioscope s. . Pca office he is stuck with the sports Everton's chances of progressing from their Europa League group look slim after a 21 home defeat to live on it leaves them bottom after 3 games that manager Ronald cumin admits it puts his job under increased scrutiny arsenal by contrast are top of their group boss Arsene Vanga says his side showed character to win one will away to Red Star Belgrade alleviation Ruth scored the winner 6 minutes from time Scotland's Women meanwhile came from behind to be Belarus 21 in their opening World Cup qualifier in rugby union's European Challenge Cup Gloucester running 9 tries as they beat our John 6116 scrum half Rhys Webb says he will not change his decision to join too long next year even though it means he'll not be eligible to play for Wales a Welsh Rugby Union rule change means players taking up a new deal with a team outside Wales must have at least 60 caps to play Test rugby and Ronnie O'Sullivan is through to the quarterfinals of the English open after a 4 frames to 3 win over John Higgins. Is b.b.c. 5 live on digital on the smartphone and tablet the weather staying unsettled with some Western very windy conditions spreading north and eastwards across the country even Ice Survey gales may affect coasts in southwest England the morning will begin mostly cloudy and damp skies Bill Bryson throughout the day 5 lives Saturday it's the finale of the $27.00 team European flat racing season Alfie but into an enjoyment champions day there and now reaches its peak it could be a major races for British on Tuesday that gets into the Champion Stakes the Queen Elizabeth the 2nd stakes. To British champion. Saturday on b.b.c. 5 Live. This is up or not on 5 large arm Dawson added Byron coming up in this hour we'll hear how the Spanish government into. To deal with the issues in Catalonia and it's going to strip the region the autonomous regional previously Will Thomas region it will be by Saturday of powers of autonomy will Harewood about the article 155 an hour is going to be interpreted by the Spanish Senate in an extraordinary general meeting of the politicians in Spain this weekend about the underwood film director Quentin Tarantino he over mugs other things of course Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction he has admitted that he knew about instances of alleged sexual assault by Harvey Weinstein and he knew about it for decades we'll hear what he had to say I'll be speaking to the 1st British woman to scale the 2nd tallest mountain in the world Katie day listen to that interview in the 2nd half of this hour fascination more chats India and how she defines her achievements as well. But 1st of all lots and lots to talk about now imagine the situation for people in Spain because things aside and revel the politically the Spanish government says it will start the process of stripping Catalonians autonomous powers on Saturday the cabinet will draw up measures for formal approval by the Senate I draw to call 155 of the Spanish constitution which has never been invoked before last night European Union leaders meeting in Brussels express their support for these banished government in its dispute with Catalonia the president of the European Council Donald Tusk made it clear that the e.u. Will not intervene in the dispute between Spain and Catalonia and rebuffed Catalan appeals for mediation. Of course for many reasons in the permanent contactor 5 minutes that. I think that the situation in Spain is linked but. I mean. Member states clear that the room no space for in the kind of mediation of international initiative action when the u.s. Wanted to marry a Magara who's a journalist who works who lives in Catalonia nonsupport article 155 is and what will happen once it's triggered is the push time in the history of words of Spain I mean after the death of General Francisco Chronicle So if we can see there just these 40 years of democracy in Spain is the 1st time these article is going to be activated by the Spanish government soon to be owners it's not so clear what is going to end up and what what exactly this article means we have to wait. Until next Saturday when there will be the extraordinary. Council of minister I mean that in my great where I mean special government will will declare we'll make clear more Peter about exactly which kind of measure they're going to take according to Article $155.00 after the 1st act it will be to wait I mean I'm talking about the Spanish government or did the 1st ever day have to wait for sort of. Authorization provided by the Spanish Senate it's the session I mean the Senate's it's going through its 2 course is not so clear is not so sure should they that they the Senate's going to celebrate next president and say Chena at the end of October because they lay is over just the last the last a day or what over there should be. A specific an extraordinary session of the Spanish Senate they need you to provide Spanish government we don't under ization a formal out of recession you are against the government just to be clear Mariya because you have explained that answer to 155 is not clear as to what what measures need to be introduced in how it will be interpreted so who will interpret if you like the constitution will it ultimately be the Government will it be Prime Minister Rudd will it be the Senate or will it perhaps even be the judiciary who look at what's written down in the Constitution about Article 155 and interprets it so that if the application the spirit of the of the article is carried out in its application. Well I guess I guess it is court in the Senate is going to interpret them in. The article 155 they are going to provide the Spanish government a formal I'll go to but again it's due to the fact that it's going let is the 1st time in history a spade that this cardinal is going to activate him in the Spanish the Spanish government I mean nice to to clarify Spanish the Spanish people to see that and to see that which had no measure they are going to they're going to activate according to the number 155 so to be onerous I mean really really few people actually currently in Spain voting Spain and in California are really no match really know what the article one of 5 minutes that's the best the problem is because there are these I mean these are to go as not recently basically because this is really the 1st time is going to be up to date so the 1st step is again when the extraordinary meeting is going to take place ima beat into dates the Spanish government and of course Spanish friends there Mariano Rajoy is going to specify which kind of measure they're going to ask to meet according to the to the article then 2nd suspect is the Senate the say that I'm in at the end of October as I told you I mean even if it's not circle you're this session should be celebrated at the end of October is going to I mean provide the Spanish government with a formal Al Gore is a shame and then depending on the measure that the Spanish government is going to is going to propose to up like it would like to apply on Saturday they will take place I mean that's that's should be that that's should be me the way the article 155 is going to work is the crucial time and not so. And for this extraordinary general meeting of this Senate it won't be fooled Will it because I'm imagining in the Senate there will be many different opinions as to the interpretation of article 155 or is it the case that Prime Minister Rudd will have enough conservative support within the Parliament to back his interpretation of article 155 Absolutely. Will at least stronger and you rich poor old at Seneca Absolutely it will be a very easy step I mean for Spanish government to receive and other evasion by the Spanish because they have a berry and huge and important majority and the Spanish Senate so it's free and we have to you see there are all show I mean in the I mean. The socialist and the Sudan which party mean they're going to to took out I mean they are in wait the Spanish government had the prime minister minor appoint I mean except except the here in Spain we have 4. Biggest biggest party quickly acceptable Bayless the left this party it who I mean the leader is. Yes all the other political parties here is absolutely angry. Debate article 1550 Premier Spanish Premier I don't know holy is calling and huge and clear majority at Senate at the end of October to receive I mean an eye for modernization provided by the Spanish Senate so we will already know more or less what the triggering your votes a cool 155 means for the Catalan region do we not more or less know what Prime Minister is opinion is of how the cattle and region will be run from Madrid. Exactly exactly that's that's the key point that's the key point I mean not a whole called all show the side to up to walk a date maybe article 15 in a stronger I'm in for a week they came in taking stronger measures against the government I mean it will be been it's I mean it's an important film important decision is going to be taken by a man or a holy and also we have not to forget that to do 8 your fish our statement provided by the president of the more when was the moment was I mean absolutely clear I mean he called me in a whole 8 if you apply if you will activate article 155 Give Me My Money Yeah no I mean we in the Spanish government and the powerful and the couple in Parliament maybe we have declared independence of Catalonia So it was a sort of Britain I mean for Marianna hoeing I mean if you apply. The article one Parklife maybe you are going to be parroting it but it's a couple of So I mean next week it's absolutely the key week according I mean what is going to Epona by the 1st the day I mean it's really next it's absolutely important to understand what is going to what it's going to be long we can isn't it and spank Mariya Magara the who's a journalist who works and lives in Catalonia the Hollywood film director Quentin Tarantino's admitted that he knew about instances of alleged sexual assault by Harvey Weinstein for decades in an interview with The New York Times he said there was more to it than just the normal rumors that the normal gossip he also said that he wishes he'd have taken responsibility and done more to protect the women involved it comes as police in Los Angeles say they're investigating another case. Civil age sexual assault involving Harvey Weinstein the woman claims she was raped by the film producer in 20137 Gatos is the executive editor of Variety magazine saying thank you for joining us about this what would she make of Quentin Tarantino's comments in this interview. Well 2 hours ago when we 1st discussed having a conversation about Quenton it was a lifetime in terms of Harvey Weinstein stories this has been typical of the most unusual time in the variety newsroom in the 25 years I've been here there's 5 more stories having to do with sexual harassment in the media just in the last 2 hours here in Hollywood there is a story by Lupita Nyong'o The great to young actress who won the Oscar her own. Incident of sexual attack by Harvey harassment a very ugly story and a very detailed and there's a story in The New Yorker that several staffers from the Weinstein Company have sent a letter saying we did not know there's another story about what is happening over Amazon Studios where their top executives in charge had resigned and now there's a spotlight on underlings looking at different behavior and decisions this thing it just continues to spread and saying that it's saying the speed at which the stories about Harvey Weinstein's. Behavior has spread of the loss we call Sun It is surprising then that country towns he knows wasted all his time to make a fool simmer least say some stands have comment on it because you might remember about a week ago when he was being approached on this to give a comment he was quite reluctant to speak more forthrightly was named Yes You know the the other thing I didn't mention is that the Los Angeles Police Department is investigating. The sexual attack charges for Harvey Weinstein I think if people are consulting lawyers I think they're consulting crisis management and public relations handlers. People are speaking in very circumspect towns in very cautiously and carefully you'll notice that Bob Weinstein talked about not talking to his brother over the last 5 years which could be a legal defense that he did not know about things in all his 5 years you notice that Harvey has said through his spokesperson they keep repeating like a montra we have never had on consensual sexual encounters but Clinton piece of the puzzle Clinton made Harvey and Harvey made Quentin and I wrote the 1st profiles ever published on Quentin Tarantino 26 years ago. So I know the story quite well I'm afraid that Quentin statement will not satisfy those who are looking for something more detailed and it may satisfy those who just want it all to go away and don't want to hear something bad about their hero so it's you know it's almost like you have to be a lawyer to read these things that we're hearing in cinematic terms then Clinton Townsend and Harvey Weinstein are umbilically linked in cinematic terms. Yes I mean Pulp Fiction changed the entire history of American sentiment because it was the in the the little indie picture that cost $12000000.00 in gross $220000000.00 and it led to everybody believing that there was a goldmine in the world of indie film so that's a Harvey Weinstein production of a Quentin Tarantino film the last few years the biggest hits for for Weinstein were in glorious bastards in Django both Clinton films the biggest films frequent these guys have been partners the very 1st Clinton film which I was writing about before that even Premier it in Sundance was a mere Max production Hargreaves company they have been a father and son brothers whatever you want to call them for literally 25 years it's a 20 is this kind of wedding anniversary as you well and it's not a very happy one yeah and he admitted in the statement that he made about how he Weinstein that he knew and that in the alleged assault involving his full new girlfriend Mira Sorvino and other actresses. Yes there is some a a cult of build in to what Clinton said you know I'll tell you why I'm very sympathetic to Clinton in this particular situation because I frankly don't know who is the Weinstein Company or at Miramax who from that inner circle actually knew the full extent of the Harvey Weinstein behavior I have heard stories everyone had heard stories but nobody ever had heard that the stories were a continuum of behavior that was even worse than that we know that most of us had ever heard I had never heard about you know rape charges or anything like that but . It's possible to me that someone like quit and didn't know the full extent. Of this demonic behavior I mean it's it's very very. It's unbelievable to see the extent of this for decades. To respect behavior continue while somebody did now and I think that the Clinton interview and the reason we're talking today is people are looking to find out who from that circle around Harvey Well you know the legal advisers who knew what yes and that's simply a good point to make a nobody's accusing Quentin Tarantino as you said not in the food extent of a lot of not all the kind of allegations that we've heard. That's right but even then you will saying that when you say that you have some sympathy that he. Probably didn't know the full extent. Probably I'm just I don't have information or you don't have the information are you not you know in to some extent saying and exempting what he says he will have no clue about some of this and the extent to which he knew about the kind of behavior that Harvey Weinstein has been accused of the question now Hollywood so you know as someone who lived in London for 5 years as someone who worked in European sentiment Hollywood's Granby off city and self-importance and the riches that are made you know there are people who make film all over the world and they don't live like Roman emperors and Raj You know I think this is a symptom of. Hollywood and I don't know what the cure is because it's been a symptom from the earliest days when people make enormous amounts of money and getting Ormus power and acclaim for doing you know something nice and interesting the grandiosity it's so out of proportion to what the work is that to this is a symptom of what happens and it's just a I don't think the examinations of this are going to cease but I'm not sure where they're all going to lead to but I do think that going back to the specifics of Quentin and the inner circle around Harvey I do think that there are probably other people whose names haven't come out and by the way some of them are in London because an awful lot of this behavior occurred there some of them are in wrong we've written about it in Variety already that a lot of things happened with this operation called Miramax Italia which was a variety was sort of questioning it back in the days when it was occurring. And some of its Los Angeles and some of its New York I believe the London police are looking into this I believe the f.b.i. Are looking into it New York and Los Angeles there are a lot of in that. To gay sions but I think on a human level personal level there are people in the heart of the inner circle people that were there for 1020 years and it does defied logic that they didn't have a clearer picture of the extent of this than than many of us who just heard bad stories and rumors and would never have imagined the extent to which this is gone Kathy voices particularly when. Actresses were being left alone in a hotel room and so you know the colleague of Harvey wings once he said I'm going to do something else with knowledge knowledge winkling and does seem to have been part of a a continuum in terms of you know modus operandi and even more the nudge nudge wink wink there is one character that's emerged in the wrong stories as a particular or you know like the supreme preparer for Harvey there's another figure that's emerged in New York I have sources telling me variety should be looking into this particular person so there were people who weren't just aware of that behavior and were just looking the other way they were active participants in a lot of the Davy or so the story is certainly not done on a day when I would have imagined I just flew back from Nashville I thought this had calmed down a little bit and everywhere I'm turning today it's a lot of page one developments 23 weeks after this thing started happening and you know I can only say one thing I hope everything comes out I hope everything is examined I hope this kind of behavior and this attitude and this as I call it you know this Roman emperors sender and I hope it all gets revealed because it'll be a better town it'll be a better business will get better world because issues there's absolutely no place for any of this it's it's it's obscene and disgusting saying thank you Steven God knows that Variety magazine now you might remember and. Last night's program we spoke to the president of the University of Florida ahead of the speech taking place there by the white supremacist Richard Spencer Well the speech took place with heavy security on campus and Florida's governor Rick Scott declared a state of emergency ahead of the event this all because after the violence that marred Spence's unite the right Rally in Charlottesville Virginia in Orcus Well let's find out how things went now in Florida with all Dr Thomas out who lectures at the University and is here with us Dr House appreciate you talking to us how did this speech go did you see or hear any of it. Well I was on the outside and I was with the organizers of the event and so I had a certain role and I needed to play outside but we also had activists inside inside the Performing Arts Theatre and they had to by far the most tickets and that turned out that. Richard Spencer and and Company. Filled up the 1st 2 rows of the theater and they're all entire all the other seats were filled up by activists who are who are angry they do say what he was saying and there were 3 speakers inside I'll tell you that the president leads up to it what happened inside the theater is that. He had 2 other Nazi types that are like him and saying exactly those things they couldn't even get they couldn't even get started the crowd was so angry and so and so insistent on saying exactly you are in favor of genocide leave leave Gainesville now and so they were there doing all these chants and all these things inside the theater make the 1st 2 walked off the stage because they couldn't talk so Richard Spencer is the 3rd one he's the one that's going to speak and so he couldn't get a sentence out without of being by the end of the over you could hear that here the crowd is responding to it and he couldn't finish the sentence so the result was that he would just keep saying everyone well don't you believe in free speech don't believe in free speech that's not only could get out really fast and he's tried for . Well maybe 45 minutes to an hour or something like that to probably 45 minutes to try to make a speech and then there's a question and answer period we were getting reports from inside because we had so many activists that were had tickets and the university had been one any activists inside and they didn't want any activists at all outside the university. Everything it could to discourage people including with the governor declaring a state of emergency as having put police that mean it was like an armed camp you couldn't walk anywhere on campus when you were going through a group of police so the result was that people people should have felt very intimidated but instead just the opposite happened and we had I knew we had 300 activists from Gainesville who were going to China and we had commitments from them and from their groups and we knew how we knew we knew how common it people we had turned out the crowd was away larger I don't know how large it was but I can tell you that. RINGBACK There are 4 blocks that you have to walk along I mean these are long locks is a resume to they're there in a big parking lot so they're Bay really big blocks for blocks you had to go past in order to get to where or where you could see the. Other for the Performing Arts and you were somebody who was there simply here you don't appreciate you telling us about it and she sounds like something of a well how do you want to describe it thank you very much for instance on the sides of the from the universe he. Had learned as much of the human. Life. This is b.b.c. 5 Live series The main has. To clear the way for breaks to deal with she can defend it time speaking during a working dinner in Brussels the prime minister insisted firm progress was being made there's been a show up rising crimes recorded annually by police in England and Wales Official figures show that violent offenses have risen by 19 percent Scotland is set to become the 1st part of the ban smacking the Scottish government is backing legislation that outlaws the physical punishment of children and Tom Hanks has told the b.b.c. There is no way back into the film industry for disgraced producer Harvey Weinstein it follows the large number of sexual misconduct claims against him Time now for this. Everton manager Ronald Koeman admits his side's 21 Europa League defeat at home to Leon puts his job under greater scrutiny the Toffees remain bottom of Group without a victory in the group stage and says they had no luck on the night before it was on the on the 1st I'll love. 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Point 0 in July this year Venus or Brian became the 1st British woman to scale the 2nd tallest mountain in the world k 2 it's known as the savage mountain because of its technical challenges and one in full climbers who some of the pig will die on the way down well Vanessa's actually got to nationality British and American which explains the accent I spoke to a little earlier I am the 3rd British woman to stand and the summit of k 2. The question is how do you define climbed or conquered. And this goes back a little bit to Sir Edmund Hillary who always defined a full climb or conquering of a mountain as coming back round trip. That you had to live to see the full thing and come round trip and part of it was what sort of men Hillary was protecting which was you know the ascent of Everest. And whether Mallory or Irving might have gotten there 1st. So there's a little bit of that there but I think in Mt Neary. Lore you know if you go back through time you'll find that a lot of people. Along the hard line will look at it as. That you have to go round trip. So that's where that comes from. But I have a lot of respect for my 2 peers who were certainly there at the summit before me who would not make it back yeah they didn't make it back so in 1986 which believe it or not 1986 and that is so recent let me tell you how recent 1906 is just to remind your listeners that was the year of the film Top Gun. That was the the year that rocked me Amadeus his song of the year is how frequent and new 1906 was that is the 1st year that not only a woman became the 1st woman to climb k 2 but we lost 2 women to climb k 2 that year and one of them was Britain's Julie Tellus. The 2nd time we lost a British British woman was 1995 and that was Alison Hargreaves. So in fact in the history of time and even till today I am the 20th woman to stand on the summit of k 2. But there and the 3rd British woman if you will to stand on this the summit. Of Kate but 20th woman overall she. Was somewhere it sounds confusing you know no it's not confusing I was just wondering how sad it is even though it was so recent relatively recently that we lost these 2 peers of yours from climbing the mountain how quickly we forget these things I seem to remember now that you say you triggered my imagination that we did lose some climbers on k 2 previously but you know I was at University of the time trying to get degrees what did I know about mountaineering when you bring it back up again it's actually quite sad isn't it the. People who would have been on the level of Edmund Hillary or otherwise in terms of what they quickly forgotten if they didn't come Korea in the way the Hillary defines it as you as you put it well what is so treacherous about k 2 the the dissent has claimed 2 great British climbers Well actually it's it's. It's not necessarily k 2 it's any 8000 meter peak of which there's 14 in the world there are 148000 meter peaks and that's it they're all in Asia so if you want height or you want to climb the big boys that's where they are you can't find them anywhere in the world and you have to count to about 110 until you get out of Asia and then you're in the and it's. So all of the height in the world if you want mountains you look to that side. And it's it's it's those in particular that cause harm because they are so high you are climbing at just the very very well let me say you could say the bottom of the strap stratosphere or the very very top of the troposphere So the very very that the troposphere and everything below is where all the weather patterns take place. All the clouds all the jet streams everything that we know as a weather pattern so when you're at the very very top of that and these jet streams these winds are you know 100 kilometers 200 kilometers an hour you can't stand there I mean that's that will just pick you up and drop you down you know. 10000 meters right I mean you know it's. These winds are so strong you can't possibly withstand them so you're battling forces much stronger than you know a human being. And that's what I find actually most difficult are the winds but you also have precipitation you have very very deep snow you have you know white out conditions. You know hazardous conditions like avalanches you have crosses all of these things work against you to create something that is just so hard to to get to the top of much less get down and it takes some effort actually to get to the top because of course you're working against gravity but it takes very very little effort to fall down. Especially after 16 hours and you know when you're extremely d. Hydrated and tired and. You know you've given all of your energy to get to say that the summit. And that's why 85 percent of accidents happen and assent. Does that play on your mind as you're climbing up does that fool play on your mind what goes up must come down as to left to the my great challenges coming down if was should see the region that's up it does and so you know another way to ask that question is you know what do you do at the summit and you know only in films do you see the high fives in the you know dancing up and down and you know that Hollywood moment in reality you arrive knackered and you hopefully get a good enough date where you can take a summit photo. Maybe a photo of you know a flag and a picture but you are programmed as a mountaineer to know that you are half way and half way is you know nothing 50 percent nothing. And you know like ourselves where we really threaded needle and took quite a bit of risk to get there after our 3rd season. You know we were coming down in the dark so you know there's a whole lot of. You know. I guess apprehension about descending because we know that most of the work is ahead of us not behind us our selves we we yes I was a team of 12 does that count and still. Well each person you know it's funny in the old days teams who teams were registered Well I guess always. You know one country at a time could register in the in the old days so you know like the 1953 every sex petition that was a you know a British registered expedition that was Swiss before that. You know so countries would register in. Certain days for certain years and Katie was not dissimilar you had British expeditions you had American expeditions you had you know the 1st expedition to congregate to was technically Italian. In 1954 so but the. Summit certificates are are given out to individual names so you know the 12 individuals who some of the k. To this year receive a some certificate in each of their names so even though we register as an expedition group and say I am the expedition leader of which I was it each individual member of that team gets a certificate if they stood on the summit. Is different. One of the challenges that of a 1000 me to be exposed known as the savage mountain and I'm presuming that's not for nothing yeah that's that's it gets that reputation to reputation primarily from the statistics so for every 4 they climb one dies. And that's there's $84.00 individuals who have died at the guilty Memorial which is that the base of k 2 I did a lot of work there the previous year I went with a Scottish climber last year Gilbert she and I went and took inventory of all the names of the previous people who had climbed before us and found 20 missing plaques and those plaques happen to have to have. Dated back something like 37 years across 13 nationalities. And so I went and I had them engraved in Wa append the which is used to be an old military base in Pakistan and I brought them back this year and one of them at the Gokey memorial so that we could have every climber that had lost their lives represented and I feel strongly about that because for me. These are the real pioneers and here as they came before me that took the risk you know using inferior equipment no weather data sometimes no oxygen and you know they had very little information and they really climbed in what I consider the I had a really bad conditions they had much less information so I have a lot of respect for all of them and you know it's a pleasure and an honor to be able to go and pay respect to them well kind of information to children about is it weather patterns that kind of yeah yeah absolutely you know anything from logistics to weather to you know anything that might have improved with technology even the materials that we used to day that help us you know stay warmer wiki you know all of these things I think help us you know everything not every year but every couple of years I think there's advancements that probably enhance the extreme environments in which we find ourselves. But then it's like as opposed to running the $400.00 beaches or the marathon in an in an imp Igs that may be the train is the running shoes might get hold cynically That's a design wise but it's still hard work is it yeah there's no doubt about it and you still have to you're still going you know a kilometer is up. And you have to climb there's a climbers nobody's going to climb that for you that your Those are your feet and arguably your feet amongst other things is you're also the oldest woman survived it there are but I mean this is only to advertise what I did. I knew you were going to say that you know I was thinking about my wife I was thinking would she like me to mention that I haven't said I know you could be 24 For all we know it was so right here so somehow it's clearly distinguished from a man to be able to you know kind of make that claim I don't know you got me you got me you know but I haven't seen it work on women so well and I knew I know every decade is the decade younger you know it's like you know gray is the new black or black it's gray or whatever it's never quite you would be that way is to know that I'm older than you Ok that sets the record straight Ok However the point I was trying to break is that the challenges diminish do they the mountain is still savage and with all the technology that you can revert to as you said you'll said it was probably more treacherous than other people a dog so technology could help just that point but there is still a challenge to get out there and it's still a challenge to get out there in the way that you got up there well well let's say this we can say this absolutely unconditionally. A higher age will not help you. Now. So that will work against you if the only way it can possibly help you is you have more experience to come down. Is not important because you know there's not there's. There's a lot of time when you know weather will come in it will make delays you know unexpected laze can occur something like that and I think if you're younger. There's the sense of wanting everything to happen now that's what the youngest like right I mean they they want it now and they cannot stand when things don't happen and you know now or there's that there's a delay and the battery dies whereas the entertainment you know you've got to quiet the mind so if you have if you're a little bit older at least you have the capability to just you know relax and not make rash decisions about yeah and just you know just chill you know it's Ok too. You know let a little bit of time pass not rush things you know the mountain teaches you you're not in control that's the number one rule and you don't make the rules who don't make the rules it's you have to you know forego that there's somebody you know someone. A deity higher mean and you know. Become. More in tune to the fact that you cannot micromanage everything that's but take place in those terms I wonder if anybody ever really called his amounts and it feels to me like you're the cowboy the road who manages to sit on the bucking holes and the bucking noses Ok I will have my day may not be with the next one is the drugs ride me but I will have my day you know I think that's a great analogy because you know if the if the bucking horse is the mountain and let's say it 3rd you off by an avalanche You know sometimes it will allow you to summit and sometimes it won't it completely depends and it's random so it doesn't and that's that's the funny thing is there was a great phrase I think was Reinhold Messner he said mountains of mountains are not tested he said he said mountains are not fair or unfair they're just dangerous. So you should never take it personally whether you Summit or don't summit it's not that you're a good or a bad mountaineer. They're just dangerous and maybe you were lucky you know maybe the weather worked out for you you know. Maybe you were technically brilliant over this particular passage but. You know never never think that you have a you know a seeker elation ship with the mountain it just doesn't work that way there is a moment that isn't there you've mentioned treacherous the summit is but there must be a moment when you reach that you've got no nowhere else to go outwards and something I imagine comes out of you. And you feel. You know I don't think those feelings are so much on the summit I think it that those are sort of rites of passage you know what one of the things I was thinking was because the conditions were so terrible on the way up. I caught I called it sort of Dantes inferno and it was almost like for every 100 meters of those 1000 meters that they were the 9 circles it was like a passage but at the summit it was a bright bluebird day and it was almost like a test I agree you going to be able to get through this test and if you did get through the test and you were willing to persevere then I will show you a mountain top of a summit that has blue skies. And that's when you'll have your meltdown Yeah so you know and it could be any number of things it could be should I turn back and you know questioning whether the avalanche will happen and versus how much time your progress you're making in you know a question all sorts of things you know of course you'll have those conversations because any rational person would it's over 16 hours as he ever stood still for 16 hours it's incredibly long and incredibly boring. And you don't have to have fun to have fun. And you're still sitting there and in sort of a queue of 12 other people and looking around to make sure everybody else is kind of Ok in the middle of this white out that nobody's acting sloppy or slipping or falling or act you know kind of signs of high altitude is when they start to look like they had a little too much to drink serious looking for signs of people looking like they might be in trouble and you know if you have to take them down or maybe in Mr High Altitude Medicine. But I didn't see any of that but I had the strongest team I've ever climbed with the season Absolutely and they were from China from Iceland. From places that are really comfortable with cold extreme weather unfortunately Vanessa we have come to the summit of this conversation I do feel euphoric Actually however . Comes the treacherous descent remember the very beginning the descent takes you back to where you started from in the very beginning of this conversation. Whether you are definitively the 1st British woman to have conquered Everest or Everest I said if you are definitively the British women's of conquered Katy and you and you say that's a great question because there were these people who were there before you but whether you define that as concreting because they didn't survive. I've sent 2 and . Actually the Great question is whether you were the 1st British woman to have conquered Everest the list is keenly would have heard that you've got something of a touring whether from the other side of the Atlantic Yankee was or otherwise Yep. Yep so so I feel I have a dual national citizenship I've been married to a British citizen for 20 years and I I live here oh well you want to pass the time yeah I'm one of you. So yes I have a British passport and I carry the new jack to the summit along with the un women and I would like very very proud to do so and we're so glad that you carried the Union Jack instead of the stars and stripes Thank you yeah Brian they're one of us the 1st British woman. Scale the 2nd tallest mountain in the world and come down to tell the tale as she pointed out that she could have been an American in which case Jessica and through 9 in the program of The Washington Post would be talking about her I don't doubt said he was making your paper this one he does a good oh he we're talking about well some clean about President trouble which since they were pretty Yeah what happened today was trance chief of staff. General had to come in trying for Upholders to basically defend the president to say president's call to the window of a u.s. Soldier. Was killed in Niger earlier this month was not bad and he did his best stand. I tell people it is a difficult thing and all the presidents can do it and I actually advised him against doing it and so he went to handle it does make them a brave man it was very remarkable because this story has been going on for Monday when reporters asked Trump during a press conference at the White House why he has been quiet all that for 12 days since those attacks happen and either on the phones of this and then he said I have a written letters which is good to go out this weekend as well be calling up people and talk to the. Relatives he didn't just stop a doctor he said I'm doing more than what my criticize. Barack Obama or George w. Bush did it that kind of set off a whole debate and then. Very quickly from that position about. Yeah he was yeah he was he was asked to be directly against say I don't know about it I just want if you want Tony but the problem Maz the next day congresswoman was in the car with the little young widow is the man was 25 years old and she the widow was 21 years old and she had just brought home the body to. You have and he spoke to her in the car and congresswoman and she said was in the congresswoman search in tribute was the congresswoman that was with it was the it was the words mother in law in the stern knows in the kernel of the coincidence or when it was all and raw. Edges Yes that's what happened she said to put it on speak on so she. Said the president was saying that. He actually signed up for it and then today Kelly actually said he gave him those words because he said that's what it say because you don't know what to tell these people you can say he signed up for eternity expect this he was there what he wanted to do and with the people he wanted to be he knew what he's charged up for essentially the the dead soldier he had signed up for which is essentially saying that he knew he signed up for death yet. Signed up yeah he knew what he was getting into That's what it meant but the thing is. Maybe Kelly was saying it in a more polished way and. Then do it back well on the phone call and but Trump immediately said the congressman was fabricating the whole quotes and he says I didn't say what she said but today Kelly actually confirmed that this is what he said but he also criticized the congresswoman he actually said I was stunned to see that she was actually listening in on the car even though Kelly was listening in on this side of the White House when Trump was talking so so let me just get this right now the important question is the president denied that he said those words he said there was evidence to prove he did not yeah those words where are we the moment we are going to. Notice that the White House spokeswoman said no they don't have any recording of the robot in a court of this call so we don't have to call it is John's saying the president did say those words yes he said because he said he said he gave in those words you suggested these are the things he asked the president asked him what he would think I should say he said and this is what I said to. Some people are asked and you can do the same thing so the problem is Kelly lost a son 7 years ago in Afghanistan and he has been a former Marine general so he carries a lot of strength in talking about it so that kind of help the problem is you need to get all the people around him to come and. That's right so the president did say those words we've had confirmation from within the White House to the president. At least one person in the white so so the president he didn't say those words yeah he doesn't say you know I don't. Mean that you just don't want to go it's not exactly confusing truck with Washington I'm sorry George Washington was the president to tell you never mind thank you just going through the play Rahm of The Washington Post. For news. Than anyone else this is these things. Called Good morning this is up or not I'm far from gotten at it by the make this on to reason I asked the e.u. Leaders to work together to come up with the breakfast details that she can stand behind in sport more misery for Ronald Koeman as Everton lose in the Europa League this is b.b.c. 5 live with the b.b.c. 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As we're talking about techie kind of things you will know about that show as ever we're joined by. Gadget detective. You can get out of him at gadget detective online and otherwise and if you like to put any questions to him about the issues that you've got of a techie nature which are to do with whether it be a television a telephone a computer or otherwise you get the drift any technique technique Tech me or even techie kind of a she's a very good morning good morning morning to you how are you I'm very well thanks very much so lots to talk about 1st of all and I know that you want to talk about a few things if you will is let me remind listeners the number to call is 080-859-9693 you've got to the way for us well I do it's. An expansion card from a company called transcend expansion coverage so yeah Ok so let me explain So 1st of all companies will transcend but it's t.r.a. M s c e n d just if you join that up so if you're out of a MacBook computer you might find that you've had it for a few years it's you start to think about whether I should upgrade or not the not very easy to upgrade except for the fact that some of them are books some of them Apple Cares and some of them are pros have got a little card slot in it you know Typically this will cost you take from a s.d. Card from a camera or something like that and yes use a transfer pictures but what transcend of done is they've created. Something called the jet drive light and what it does is it fits into that slot but it I'm like a normal car that sort of sticks out this one sits flush it's made for each Pacific model so you buy the one for your particular computer it sits completely flush and expands the internal memory so you can either have an extra 64 gigabytes 128 gigabytes even 256 gigabytes of means one of these cards could effectively double the internal storage and. People finding. That's quite useful because they're running out of space things like the i Tunes library itself tends to expand you have a large library podcast or whatever will just launch photoblog it's a really nice way of expanding a MacBook without it sort of being a sticky card that can get snapped off or taken out and lost it's in there you know you take you so fingernail to pop it out sort of thing it's kind of hard to take it out once it's gone and that's how it's going to be and it's a very very neat to be spoke solution for how much each You're saying you're saying very very just the way Donald Trump does it which makes me think I'm going to set in just 10 to one flipping 2nd I'm so it also I've never had to say I resent that and I write yeah. I was hoping you would hang on a 2nd are you have. Exactly exactly. Over the years add since computers became part of our household furniture I have been caught expansion cause of one form or another and then found out that actually it is a diminishing returns because basically computers leap to another generation and if you go trying to update your computer to try and make it work more you're actually slipping behind in terms of where you should be with a computer which needs regular updates because it needs more and more memory to incorporate all the things that you know we now have to have with our computers and so on so where is one supported so I'm a computer my 1st computer and something like 20 megabyte hard drive a kid you know and a source for mega by random measurements of punched paper tape probably was in those days compared to now that cost me a $1000.00 pounds in those days by the way this is not just business but then you know you kept trying to expand it buying expansion cars or whatever to make it quick and what I didn't realize was everybody else was saying not their money to buy the next gen. Ration computers which would take you where those expensive cars are taken in any case yet look you're right but that that change actually works to advances think about it this way that say you bought let's say my book air back in 2011 at that time the maximum size of internal storage on the hard drive for the s.s.d. That you could have had was 256 gigabytes that was you know if you paid top whack so that might you might pay say 2000 pounds for that machine it's physically sound is still sleek it's likely to be working without you know without a faulty you know they were very robustly built and a nice a cable than a lot of the modern mac my MacBook as the bank makes in my book as by the way but 256 think about snow you could say Ok well it's you know 56 years old time to go another one or you could spend somewhere between 40 and 150 pounds so if you spent say 150 pounds you could double the internal stories to 256 gigabytes it's not going to be quite as quick as the internal solid state drive but to be honest with you if your operating system is all still on the original s.s.d. The original solid state drive this is a very useful way to to store other other data peep photos or videos or as I say you i Tunes library whatever it is and you don't read it you'd have to sort of do a benchmark to notice the difference in the real world the reality is that you've given that machine a midlife kick so it will go maybe another year or 2 years or 3 years with that extra capacity that you've given it yes it's not going to be faster than it was before but it will be more useful Ok I normally would not say issue with faves everybody knows that because he is the gadget detective whereas I'm just a numbers he when it comes to technological stuff however on this one occasion Xenia about me. Suggesting that he was like Donald Trump on this one occasion I'm going to throw out there was something you know this one occasion one occasion only on a friend out there so all you geeks listing I'm sorry everybody else but this one is for the geeks in particular because they're the ones who will know what I mean come on let me know. 59 and 693 would you save your money for a new generation of computers or you one of these Luddites who believes what favors the saying about expansion cards giving your computer a midlife lease of life good they tell me 599693 Ok I can write Can I just Or are you going to back out of it no no I don't back out that I'm no I'm sticking to my guns where you could well put your 49150 pounds towards him in your back but you're going to be waiting a long time for him you know that it might go some way towards the insurance All right well yeah Ok Well even so the gigs listening to give me a call 808599698 of course everybody else can join in as well by giving fans a call and ask them to solve any issues that you have your techie Garrett everything to wife if you will right around midnight Trust me about this is a question from Steve in am she says was the best laptop on the market for around 500 pounds please and this is for work not for play Ok It depends what what you want is a bit like saying what's the best car on the market 1st so it depends what you need what you know what you desire are all 3 offer 500 quid. You can get a car for 5 and you know everyone even. If you go if you got it I say and you go the value of your change on a 500 lb so. Let's maybe look at giving you some some tips so we're I'm assuming we're looking at a Windows machine so it will have Windows 10 on it are give you some ideas of the specifications that you could maybe expect for your money so in terms of the process if we're talking about for example Intel processor you'd be talking about typically an Intel $5.00 process I think for $500.00 you could avoid the I 3 s. Which are nice but a little bit slower in terms of the amount of memory you'd be looking at I'd say these days a minimum of 8 gigabytes of memory and Ideally choose a machine that has got expandability so. This is tricky because if you're off to one of these sort of ultra light white ones then they tend to have the memory sold on to the make main circuit board not always but usually However if you can find one that is great to pull then ideally one that's got at least 8 gigabytes in it but is expandable to say 16 and of what you had to get that in didn't. You someone has a slot in the side of the so in terms of that now. As importantly is the amount of memory the fact is that these days you don't want to be pointing a laptop with a conventional hard drive in it that's to say one that has a rotating disk inside it because they are slower than they maybe have a slightly high capacity still but they are slower and hacky than transit you have to switch on near the whirring noise or can you just ask does every day you'd look at a specification that it would typically if it's got a solid state drive it would normally say s.s.d. Or solid state drive get one get as one with a solid state drive with a minimum of $250.00 or $256.00 gigabytes of storage that's really the minimum that you want to be looking at in terms of having enough space for your operating system and most of your files as well so that make that s.s.d. Makes such a big difference for especially for a laptop computers 1st of all my. Much much faster secondly more robust because there's no moving parts if it gets dropped on nudged it's more likely to survive 30 because they're on the moving parts it draws less power which means that the battery last longer per charge and because it's drawing less parent means there's less heat. Is a good thing and therefore less noise as well so you know all round important specially in a laptop computer or not but computer to have a solid state drive so those are the main thrusts I would be looking for if for example you were interested in gaming and when I came in I mean sort of the latest sort of 3 d. Games the ones are graphically very demanding then instead of getting a laptop that just has relies upon the built in graphics chip on the Intel I 5 processor you could get one with an additional graphics circuit built in there and that's what people who as I say want to do a little bit more than sort of basic games on there so it does depend and that's what I was alluding to at the beginning as you know it depends what you need depends what you want to do with it if you're looking for office applications you know spreadsheets of word processors that sort of thing you don't need. Some of the ads on process of Stephen hamesha said quite clearly is this for work reasons has got the time to yes from playing so there's so that's a guess and then the other issue is the point now yeah so then the other issues to consider is what sort of screen size do you want obviously the smaller the screen size that say 13 it's all about synch screen that makes the machine more portable because not only is the screen small Everything is small it tends to be a small item a chain if you go up to say 15 or $15.00 inch screen size that's going to add you know a good half a kilo to a kilo to the weight of the machine but make that it will make the screen more usable. And some people do rely upon the screen that's built in others say look it's very important that it's a light weight machine that I can use on the go but at the same time when I'm at my office I'm just going to plug it into a large you know 27 inch monitor or something like that and then have the best of both worlds so those those are the things to consider what screen size do I need does it need to be light weight and things would you go forward to that I mean considering that 500 pounds I would look at something like some of the Dell inspire on computers that they're quite good some of the basis computers are very well built as well some of the H.P.'s and notice I say some of because all these manufacturers can make some remarkably good computers and they will have computers in their range which are not as good but if you if you kind of stick to the principles I've laid out for you and the only other thing I ses try to get at a balance specification and by that I mean don't sync all the money into the sort of s. Was bang on my 7 processor at the expense of the others a computer is only as fast as its weakest link so the idea is to have a sort of spread the money across all those components in a way that none of them is an obvious bottleneck to you to the speed and reliability of your computer and the young thing I would say is you know consider if there's a if there is a cost effective way of getting yourself an extended warranty you know maybe taking one year up to 3 years without If it doesn't cost you a lot extra It's especially if it's for business use because then you know you might write off the computer for tax purposes over a 3 year period so it would be good to know that it's going to be a viable computer over 3 period I bought a boat a washing machine the other day and I paid extra for the one that had a 10 year warranty on it because although it cost me a shot I then know I can I can effectively write. Fact that washing machine you know in terms of my cost for tax but for cost I can buy that all $5.00 say a 10 year period instead of a 5 year period I know you know all things being equal for that machine should should survive for 10 years. Ok. 859 and 693 where are all my gigs when I want them. Oh wait oh wait no one coming to you right here oh wait wait fire myself Mr Starr have this. Week we were we started back again exactly where we left off no it's. All Dorsey I just wanted you know if you're doing well and hearing good I mean differences of opinion I close dignify it with the expression argument you know Frank Bures sing the way that you thought I did. You know just when I said I did this right when it comes to technology and questions of a techie nature there are different ways is getting cash so just take as it were and you know people have differences of opinion but then right the difference of opinion I have with as it's an ai is I still think you're better off waiting your time and investing in a new generation computer than trying to crank the midlife crisis out of a good old computer by expanding it putting in all these expanding what you call them expanding well as an expansion card expansion I think there's a risk there is a point at which that becomes absolutely true you know and I say that often when people got machine that's broken down and do you want to be throwing good money at that and often I'll say to someone you know don't spend more than 50 to 75 pounds on a repair if you goes up say above $100.00 better off putting that towards a new computer even if the new $1.00 cost you $300.00 or $400.00 pounds so there is a point but I think particularly with the my books there on how cheap my books you know that they're all expensive I mean all right you get a lot you know build quality and so forth but when money but in a way or. For a lot of people you know you know after the you don't need the high spec Yeah I have 56 year old machine to run a current operating system and it still looks the part still well built and what's the point of getting a machine that's really well Bill lost forever if you can replace every couple yeah that's going on but you know so I'm talking to something of the you term it's good for you know essentially it's a question of where where where your argument starts to take hold I would say your argument starts to take hold if you were starting to spend 25300 or more pounds because then that is just you know some proportion of a new book but just not even question tens or hundreds of pounds on an on an expansion card that's just not going to get you very far towards a new machine friend I mean even if you one more thing even if you buy the new machine it's can be worth you know giving the old one a bump and you know passing that on to a family member or just using it as a secondary machine Yeah yeah you know it's not very environmentally sound if you frankly taught and tend to tell people just to trash the machine. He's got is a low blow brother that was. Anyway so he started rattling at Trump I mean you know I have. 080-8593 gives he called plays and be on my side what you do Chris embark on the question of Mack books. He say yet tech guys have the right if you buy say a Dell that is bog standard it works well if you buy one with an unusual proper see such as ultra h.d. You get loads of problems for that privilege Ok Ok Also this is from Travis who says on the question of mac books I bought a 2000 pound MacBook Pro in February last year how long will Apple Support sit for with updates. Well so it's a question of how long it will continue to be able to run the latest operating system. I mean typically I mean. That there are say 202010 max still running quite happily so I would say you should be able to expect maybe 6 or 7 years of updates to the machine you bought wisely and you bought one with enough memory often what happens is that sometimes it's not but it won't run the operating system but even if it does you know by the time you're running the operating system and the applications on top of that that you want the performance isn't as great as as you'd like it to be I think that there's more of a problem when it comes to Apple equipment with with the i.r.s. Devices the i Phones and the i Pads they can become obsolete more quickly it's possible to have a you know 3 year old us device that you know struggles to run the latest operating system and that is a problem because you don't get the security updates and you know case in point is that she's someone on my Twitter feed said said this. A few hours ago they said look I've been holding off putting ios 11 on my i Phone because frankly it's got a lot of bugs in it but now I'm worried because of this vote and this vulnerability that's been reported on recently called crack where they found out that the way in which we secure our wife my connection something called w.p.a. 2 which is meant to be very secure has got an intrinsic faults in it that means that it's possible that that folk can be used to to allow people access to the data like the wireless data flow between you and your router or you and your wife I hotspot when you're out in the belts and they have said look have say you've said to us go to Iowa 7 get them sort out a few more of the bugs and I'd say yes but today I read that. Apple have. Patched for this crack problem. That's cracked with a k. . But I believe that they've only done so on the latest beat a version of the us 11 and whether we're going to get that patch for the i feel i Phones and i Pads are stuck when I was 10 or even I must 9 is not clear to me so hold the thought hold that thought so much money on 36 or 7 years time again long the question was actually from Craig in La Rochelle in France who got John in Brighton with us good morning John all right don't we spotted a girl I'm very well Sally you know sort of my center of also went very well elbow I'm sorry to hear that it was is going to speak to now the case tell me what you've got from friends you know right on the bomb itself in a marble 5 now I can't say. I so you want to be able. To wonder Well the reason bytes are on it. What is the best one for me because well you know my little mommies. You know you know one pound just takes the guy you know while they do the job. Yet I thoroughly chill but if you want to cite numbers really can't say don't. You don't know what you know it would . Be pretty screwed up if you go you know what it Yeah Ok so so John. Thanks for the question by the way because of that I think that's going to be a useful question for a lot of people there are Century 2 ways that you've got this you need to have a simple norm smart phone in the has real buttons that you can have your way through and he simply Yeah he's there full relatively simple to use. One that you know has you know buttons to call people that you know maybe buttons to call the people that you want maybe has gone s.o.s. Button on the back that sort of thing simple cheap easy to use. Some of the best phones of that type are made by a specialist company called The Road that's the. And the f.b.i. Are there I think there's Swedish but they specialize in in phones either for older people or people with sight sight problems as well yeah so and those phones you that you can actually you need to buy them online be finished by I mean high street stores as well so not not necessarily widely stopped by the the phone shops themselves but you know department stores are never the knowing on the sold for example carry them others to them as well so that's one approach they do smartphones as well but they're probably best known for their that a cool feature phones are the norm small fund So that's one way you can go and there are you know there are many Mikes and many good ones but the the direct people they tend to specialize in that sort of thing he'll turn save is to go as you've alluded to for small phone which has. One of one's accessibility options so all right you might not be able to see the last screen but these are effectively handheld computers that also happen to make phone calls and you can so if you can i Phone for example have voice voice commands in it under System 9 to Siri and you can you can ask Siri to dial telephone numbers for you know whatever you want Yeah and it's very easy on those devices if you just swipe down with 2 fingers it just read to the contents of the screen you know everybody's tell you so you want to download so you just want to watch Yeah yeah so you tell it's open an app you can do that by voice you can you can swipe down having read what's on the screen and that could be an article but it could just be the various options on the screen as well Apple and so the these accessibility options that exist both on Apple devices but also similar options all at once running Google's Android operating system does . This so these are fun so by lots of other people so the Apple stuff is so the Ok this is a matter of opinion kind others will disagree here both good in my view the apples the apple accessibility options are little bit better. And I also am being told this by people who who have sight loss yeah the people generally find it better but but most ng's can be achieved. You know just about as well on Google based phones society and so on so you almost want to talk a lot yeah yeah yeah Charlie. Bell but I'm delighted to be able to say we're all going to write I was all right well the elders say if I was to write I was a very quiet and they probably got. It it's what foresight Yeah because we don't years I was on the frequency to well you know up on. So we're talking about you know broadcast radio stations Yes well I'm right you know I'm in our case so yeah Ok well. I mean the good thing is once you're into sort of smartphone territory that has an app for most anything that you want to do. So you'll be able to experiment with also what sorts of things but for cows come on I mean these are not these are not cheap phones so you know you know make sure if you get a phone like that it's in short Also if you do John if you do take the plunge and you spend you know you know a significant amount of cash from a smartphone then 2 or 300 quid Yeah so so get it I mean if you were going to get an i Phone I mean if you're not cited I would say that a good choice of phone in the i Phone range would be an i Phone se because the i Phone Ses that the smaller 5 ins physically smaller but they've got you know all the power that you need to to run you know all the modern apps in the modern operating system and so forth and if you don't need a large screen then you know why why why pay for one as it were that that's the most formidable i Phone But having said that i Phones aren't cheap yet they're not cheap no but you can you can get them I think for some 304-0300 something for still largely by the way that during your Ira is this or this company John thanks love the cold has got a legit 5 Love headlines now. 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Computer's Christ on my hand and I've been told it was a graphics card. And I wonder as a way I can see you know from the hard drive but I don't like Spencer process so I'm going to start already to go through it for me you know . So either you are you. View that this machine is not an economic repair you know make it up and running again knowing. The new graphics card cost more than a new computer you know Ok all right and so Ok so. They're all ways in which you can you can get that information out but it does need to certain amount of technical know how and. If the information on the hard drive is you know Precious. To you either. In monetary terms or other terms then it can be worth spending sort of 50 pounds to get someone to to transfer that that tape to safely if you wanted to do it yourself then that. Is the case at this computer doesn't boot up at all it doesn't start up. So so the way to do it would be to extract the internal hard drive from this and sometimes that can be quite easy or not depends on the design of the machine sometimes it's as easy as a couple screws and out out out it slides as it were but sometimes you have to you know take off the the back and you know forever to round inside but once you've got that drive out you would then buy the old caddy that might cost you say $10.00 pounds that converts the the connection type which will be probably a Saturn connector that's a type of connector of the hard drive that's how the hard drive connects to the computer you put in a little caddy slides in and then it becomes an external u.s.b. Drive and although you're going to have to use the I mean I'm assuming the hard drive is still working because you're telling me it was a graphics card. Card and it probably is but just be aware that sometimes one folk can lead to another but you know I heard you know what some of the data is still there so you would pop out the card put it in a caddy that allows you to treat it as a u.s.b. External drive you then plug it as an external drive into the u.s.b. Socket of a working computer and copy across the data ignore the operating system because you're not relying on Windows Vista to start up again or you are saying is in addition to all those operating system files are my precious photos or my manuscript I've been working on for 12 years whatever it is you can copy those files across onto a new. And. By the way for those running Vista or earlier as well Vista is no longer supported operating system by Paul No I realize. Now let's talk sense so let's just wow. Those tears and sorrow you know if you're running Windows 1012 I'll be quite interested in that very. Good money to have a look at when I was 12 but yeah I think that would be the way to do it now if you say well you know it be nice to have the day to buy I don't really want to spend you know you know it doesn't matter if I lose it then fair enough have a crack at it yourself it's quite instructive thing to do however if there are sort of family photos of you know the are irreplaceable or anything like that as the manuscript I was more worried about the manuscript family photographs Yeah yeah and I was behind the script you know it's like you know the body is amazing how many of us have got you know really precious things on the hard drives and it's true no no backup now that I know meaningful backup by that I mean we will learn that eventually because there's no question of. If but when yes the hard drives to file and they will even s.s. These you know the solid state ones the people the people when you don't use them and Billy thank you very much for this question well it's not a question this statement says it starts off can favors the help. Dr and what do you think it's a simple binary question yes or not I can help well come back to that question the moment I'd say don't worry Bryan in Rush Farnham in Dublin says to the environmentally unsound Datsun I suppose that's me it's not me that. Don't have to stick it to me that Vahey the environment's the hounds out Dalton the please also the environmentally sound fence see if there will ever be a Windows 11 No Will they just continued to create updates for Windows 10 indefinitely as you've just been talking with Billy about I think it will be Windows 10 for a long time so you know you know we had Windows 7 Windows 8 there was no windows Nine's funny enough. In the same way that there's no wife 09 we've got an i Phone 8 and i Phone 10 round the corner but no other yeah I think and I mean I think the best analogy for this was it was what was known as macro s 10 which went on for years and then was given names of sort of you know Lion Mountain Lion you know in the city although there's. It will probably go on for a long time because the way in which. Mark soft of viewing windows 10 is different to other operating system so that there century when you get Windows 10 Your effectively saying I accept that Microsoft are going to take over the mention mint of this operating system and they will stream updates to you without you necessarily even knowing it all wrong asking for them for goodness sake a lot of people got Windows 10 forced upon them without them even wanting it and they would just do that and there are benefits to them entering that because they're changing their business model that used to be that Microsoft made their money by selling you a new version of the operating system you know they did because charge you know a lot of money for you know Windows x.p. As opposed to Windows $98.00 c. Or whatever it was they'd be they'd be making a lot of money. But fortunately the For them the world has changed you know Google's Android is in quotes free Apple doesn't charge separately for its I.O.'s operating systems all these mobile platforms suddenly have operating systems that don't appear to have a charge for them of course nothing is really free and in the case of say Android you know it's basically a data collection device fought for Google the way they use it to learn a lot about you that's why they they keep why this operating system and in a similar way Microsoft who spent many years poking at Google for for collecting data on its users is now doing exactly the same thing and Microsoft Windows 10 is this operating system which is one of the most sort of spying pieces of software that you'll ever run on any device you know in in the form when you 1st get a machine with Windows 10 on it you're machine will be factory leaking information about you 2 to Microsoft every every turn and a lot of features like Cortana which is their equivalent of Siri you know this voice entity that lives this you know disembodied intelligence of theirs inside your computer. All of these things won't even work unless you give it information about your location so yes it will stay windows 10 for quite a while Ok John in South Wales with us good morning John. It's going very well thank you good speech it. Are you 2 you've got Thanks here you know I always thought you know John because he charges book by the Is it by the gigabyte the charge moves in. The mag I'm actually very intrigued as is my advice and not think of such a thing is a cheap techie guy you know what I mean John Yeah. John how can I help Ok the time months ago I got some songs phone from you know only shop sales all their phones from a box and when I then asked my monthly or more go went to one last call via the shop I bought it because they said the phones are not the phone and lost touch should be a lot 2nd chance on and they say you've got me tally I'm Sol on the me called on the serial number so that is destined for your child and market. So I was so I was how they call themselves while on the phone or it could be essentially So I'm confused I still why I can't go straight answer because if I talk to the people on the song they say one thing I'm going to shop they say another thing so I'm just wondering is that possible obviously this is all I would you explain it also so at the moment we're all in the obviously and it's you know it's the single market and you know devices like that to get brought in. From the market sometimes and then there's great imports parallel import parallel imports great imports Sometimes this is not a problem I mean is it giving you a particular problem you said that the phone is already unlocked that's not generally a bad thing in and of itself or that it may be a clue to its history but is the fact that it's in quotes in Italian phone is that causing you any issues at the moment is there something that you're particularly why we'd about in that sense. Well just the fact that I can understand because when I talk to some some they are definite that the phone is most go to a silly shouldn't be in this country so as far as a market is concerned you know it wouldn't want to serial numbers on a phone and then send it yeah I know that they are they saying therefore that there's no valid but warranty on it from the manufacturer for example well. It depends on who I speak to because i Phone different shops because they go to some stamps and experience shops Yeah some of them are saying there might be an issue with the phone because it's in Italian and it's in Britain now there's a warranty doesn't transfer so I don't want to take the phone it means there is an issue of this just 12 months old now so the warranty for 2 years. And. There are some strange things on this it's like a high school nap and I keep. The selection when I go to touch the blacks out I think my hand the way it comes alive is green so I don't know if that's a problem the stock has fallen and I'm going to be really quick so it comes back up right and then I got to touch it again it's great blackout to get it right and I could. Not find it to my ex I'm looking at it right. Does mother strange things like the pages I don't know why you think the page is. So Ok right I think the thing is this you've obviously got some concerns about the phone in the way that you just described to me and I asked you well you know are they saying you've got a warranty or not so so the thing to do is to try and call upon the warranty to 1st of all speak to the people who sold you the phone and ask them you know how they would set about solving the issues you've described and let's see what you float with them you know if they can't offer you an instant fix whether you say well let's take advantage of the warranty and either ask them to do it all or make a warranty claim yourself you will then soon determine whether or not you have a valid warranty because you said you think it should be a 2 year warranty if you find that you can make a warranty claim all well and good. If you find that you cannot then that's then a basis to go back to the retired and say Hold on I thought I was buying a phone that was probably warranties that being being of you know from the Italian market doesn't in and of itself make it you know illegal to be sold I mean there are. You know there are supermarkets same port chains from other markets because they're cheaper and sell them here and there's generally a problem but the manufacturers don't like it but it's not it's not elite. And in fact trying to stop it may be deemed to be illegal so I think you need to 1st we need to get a fix for the problems that you're suffering but also you need to put your mind at rest or otherwise to find out whether you've been disadvantaged by the provenance of that phone the fact that it's you know was was meant to be sold and use in determining market is is that giving you some disadvantage if if you're suffering by it then I think you've got a basis upon which to go back to to the retiree that and and you know seek redress and that might be your money back Joe thank you pretty sure that Stephen bristles with us as well Steve good morning good morning about how he writes these very well thank you. I'm going back to the point from a couple calls ago. We got talking about. When I was 12 or 10 and yet. You know my heart beats every time someone says when I was told to start it's not that easy you know. I probably. You know I I still run Windows 7 yeah which works absolutely perfectly for me you know. I don't I've never been what it called an early adopter you know all great so I think it will take you all to get it sorted out. But it still works perfectly fine for me is there any reason. For me to even look at upgrading to Windows 10. Not at the moment I mean the majority of the machines I run to and I have a choice of whatever operating system I want to run on it you know I have access to all those operating system the majority of systems I run are Windows 7. I do run Windows 10 machines not least because I need to know about Windows 10 Otherwise I probably wouldn't bother even with with one Windows translation that's not to say there's anything wrong with it and bear in mind you know for the for the average consumer when you buy a new Windows machine it's going to come with windows 10 yet you know just because that's what they put on it but if if it's doing everything that you want then leave it alone as long as Microsoft are continuing to patch it from a security point of view and we've mentioned Windows x.p. More recently Windows Vista stopped being supported only for them as they are still putting Windows Yeah oh no and they are and they will do for some time to come so there's absolutely no reason for most people to switch over and I would say that actually there's quite a lot of reasons not to because Windows 10 although yeah has some benefits most of that sort of stability that you can get with Windows 10 comes on machines actually come with windows 10 in the 1st place machines are upgraded from Windows 7 to 10 yes they can work and they can be fine but often you get compatibility issues you know the drivers don't quite work correctly those of the bits or so whether you know unable or all the components in your computer to work seamlessly with with the new operating system yeah I know people. Now. Great. Yes when that was available Yeah. Well I mean I've been critical of Microsoft for the for making it so easy to upgrade from from an earlier point system to 10 so upgrading an operating system is like giving a computer a heart and lung transplant it's not a small thing to do and it's something that needs to be thought out. And what people need to do before they upgrade from one operating system to another is a need to think about compatibility for example so if you're running maybe some quite old software maybe an old accounting suite or something like that which is critical to your business for example but may run on 7 but may not run on 10 then you need to know Similarly if your printer is not going to work properly on the windows 10 you need to know so you need to do you know there are some good tools out there to check you know for compatibility issues and sometimes it says incompatible or compatible works but not supported or something like that so. I would say a lot of stuff stops working when you go from 7 to 10 not not not huge amounts but it can be critical things and so and that can be hardware or software so if it's working if you're happy on the Windows 7 is working it's stable within the site leave it a lot and you know if you if you want to be a geek comply with it then do it but don't do on a system that you rely upon so for similar why I have an i Pad I don't rely palm I upgraded that to I were 7 did I do that with my i Phone No I didn't because I need that to work reliably and I don't think that's a stable operating system yet so. In a similar way I would not upgrade from Windows 7 I don't really see it as an upgrade out of the numerically and until such time as you have a problem and typically that will be when markets will stop supporting it then it's time to go to to a more recent operating system and is similar why you know a lot of people when they when they stop getting Windows x.p. Supported didn't jump to 10 a lot of them found a way of jumping to 7. And preferred it so no no need to do it if you buy a new machine or have it on their own when you know you don't need to to do anything about that but I wouldn't be upgrading your machine and I wish I'd been upgraded from the Apple matte classic to the Us side in those days which was the king of the moment anyway thank you very cool Steve Brazil David in Thailand is with us David good morning good morning. Rather days and a lot into a little bit of a delay on the line but that's all good so you got closer to. Yes Ok great yet where I am a top notch on the line audition tree on top of the lawyer Mark computer in the morning train there. Secondly you don't leave police radio telephone number of goals for the Cleary And Lincoln Brigade on the sorry moment for the jerk idea program Ok like I don't see any I've got a shot of 3 small Oh yeah I had 16 gig stifle a usable 12 gates explosion clearly so thought. I would go too far at least only change explode into red fall when I tried to connect to the contingent sharing you know full on China everything to and t. The memory of delete. Delete you don't want on and you got a 100 photos on it tells me I'm only using a gig strafe I filled 12 I think this some my last one but on which they're on the tail end of it Einstein So do you know if you've upgraded the version of Android the society or pricing system but your 5 years running Have you grown so more recent version than the potion that shipped with. Pretty certain honor because my servants provide a are some countries like Ireland contract. And they are. Still be very great and I don't think. So probably for still $100.00 but certainly not only. Got about. 3 years ago Ok and that that will mean that whilst you might get a new features and you might get new security updates which can be important sometimes newer versions of your pricing system are more taxing on the device than the older one and that's not a problem if you go buy a new device but if you've got one that's knocking on a bit it can just mean the device goes from being you know. Quick and agile to being to being slow and you know unbearably so so it can be that. It's sometimes it's possible to roll back but it can be a bit of an issue what I would do are you backing up that phone as a tool on to another device such as a computer. You know. Sometimes hard to keep to my computer call like yeah why are. You going to. Film the art I don't do anything. Well. Well. Yeah yeah and so managing how much sort of. I'm sorry I interrupted. So it's amazing how much sort of craft these these it's a bit like lint where does it really come from who knows but it sort of became like what I would say is this do a complete backup do 2 of them make sure that you've got everything and make sure that you can restore it once you've done that and you're confident you can get everything back when you need to reset it to factory settings go back to how it shipped as far as you can and then reinstate. You know I want to time perhaps and put you try to expect going to whatever else you want to but also when you when you just see running properly as soon as you've stated virgin state thank you very much real on a 1st time caller and also let me say this slowly enough. 8. 5 . 9693 is our number. Larger. Than anyone else this is. Not on. The main news I'm 5 life to read the my plate is they have a dinner in Brussels to help us try to break that deal that she said. Mall misery full Ronald Koeman as ever to. Be. To resume a. 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Was. The. I. Think you may seem to. Want to get ahead of yourself as a 100 percent. Win this race is not just. Race commentary from 7 pm. On. Channel 4 now this morning I was going over 25 minutes. Techie fighting to give you lots of Jordan if you will question froggy edge a detective says he took out the knee and simply pick up the phone it was a call 808-590-9693 I apologize I don't mean to be patronizing or anything like that but the last caller David in Thailand did point out I really got to fast and try and measure my the tempo of my voice as I read out so apologies in feel free to criticize me in a charming I mean feds you always does he doesn't hold back at all does turn on you when you're going to have Yeah it's fresh when I compare him to Donald Trump which you still got the hump about no doubt this week suggested not in Cambridge Good morning I got money on how you. Think it will go question for votes he got it yes. I got a $78.00 inch micro and then took up only it's not something I sourced. Looking in to see Saw go I screamed and surrender. And take under not. Basic needs. Like I'm got snacks and I was looking. For my friend to look at it could. It come out it would be assessment and was graphic and you could be changed. And. I. Just wonder what. Is that right. Mark. So let me just make sure I call the order that the machine did you say the machine was a MacPro remarked book prior. Yes and so is it one of the cylindrical one. New ones that's Ok and that would have cost you a lot of money how much did you spend on that. But initially when you bought it how much does it cost you just. Over a 1000. But how old is this machine it's a little 10112007 Ok so this is not one of the cylindrical mac pros this is one of the cheese grater Macs price of big aluminum boxes Yeah. Yeah. That's a nice machine by the way bedsores style icon size machine for them is there's a market just for the cases alone you know people make furniture around them and so . 2011 it's one of those sort of borderline areas I mean this. 350 pounds. It's it's difficult because you see the problem is even when you replace that graphic circuit the rest of the machine is still you know a 6 year old machine if anything else goes wrong it won't be warranteed which was in the operating system we have currently running. Just like this one yeah you know Ok. This is a bit like you know when we have an aging car and we sometimes spend more than the actual machine is worth you know an insurance company might write it off but we decided we'd like to keep it because it's nice people and we'd like the machine if . $350.00 pounds I think $350.00 pounds is at that level where I would start to think about putting it towards a new machine. And it would wouldn't necessarily need to be a mac for you I mean would you consider for example using a Windows p.c. . Mike. But. Yeah I remember baby on your mac but yeah. So you wouldn't necessarily need to go for. A MacPro bearing in mind that you know any of the desktop machines be that i Macs or even a mac mini would a modern one of those would outperform your your your Mac. Probably in most respects. Are you doing anything that's particularly sort of taxing on the graphical side is a reason why you've got a Mac. Prahus opposed to you know some less less fully featured mac. It's like you go like. Einstein well. At $350.00 pounds I personally would be inclined to put that towards a new mac if I want I want or even a new one all you know one that. Apple have got refurbished units that they sell as well through that that's really their store and the good thing about Apple Raef is that much of the in this to me should pull from you they're fully warrantied and I always knew I think in a lot of cases they they would place the outer casing and all of that is fully tested and fully warranty that it tends to be about 15 percent cheaper than than the one off that also just be aware if you're a student you qualify for student discount as well so that's something to to bear in mind if if you if you want a student or you know a student who can buy one for you then you know that's something to think about as well by 350 pounds we're going to do just. No deal. You know yeah I don't I don't buy new MacPro though because frankly they launched the mac pro they made a big deal about how it was made in America you know you had to you know graphics cards and it could be replaceable then proceeded not to upgrade it for I think more than 3 years now hasn't seen upgrade and now it's in the embarrassing position of being outperformed by you know i Macs and even many days in some cases I mean it's just shocking it is it isn't really is disappointing because people who have spent you know 345000 pounds on one of those machines and then find that oh it's not quite a doorstop but it's just not getting updated in the way that you should be so I think that's disappointing so I would say if you going to buy another mac consider an online mac which has the integrated screen there or if you don't want an integrated screen then consider a. Mini. And by the way if you look at a mac mini that goes back to 2012 we show horses a long time ago no question and not much are newer than yours the 2012 models have courts can have quote core processes in them and because the new mac mini's. Apple hired me for saying this on their own site you know when they when they release the new mac mini I dated the thing they didn't number of things I thought was quite cynical 1st of all they. Sold it the memory chips down so that you could no longer upgrade the ram and Apple charge a pretty penny for their ram memory so people used to say get the focal point machine upgraded to 60 so you couldn't use any expansion cards or time had an idea but it's true you could look at it and you could let you know when I spoke about the p.c. Spec and I said get one of those I think I'm biased but expendable you know Apple started soldiering in this and they started making it change hard to change the hard drive and and they stopped doing quad core processors we've got a lot of calls and I want to get through all these calls tonight Justin thank you very much Robert Glasgow 1st will go to your mom. As well. Really appreciate the call in that case really to. My daughter. That's only. 4 years ago and I'm not very technical this. Is still an experience yeah. You know there are not one I actually don't know. Not just one she told me. There's a. Voice Recorder writes Ok so so. Effective yes and he deleted it for those that listen you know the phone in the dust bin just the app went went into the trash can as it were. So. Yeah I mean with that with that phone you can download all manner of recorders either that one or another one from a 3rd party you can do that so the experience. A version of Google's Android operating system. If you access the Google Play Store which is the online store shop where you can download new apps then you can choose from any number of voice recorders there and that you know that some of them will have a lot more features than the one that you accidentally deleted you'd be possible so to reinstate that particular app but but it might be an opportunity to sort of acquaint yourself with the App Store and have a look at what's available there because one of the benefits of outing as a small fun robot is that you can you can choose programs that will do almost anything that you want there's a huge number of huge huge number of apps to choose from so not just games and things but you know if there's things that you specifically want to do with your fun then then you can do it and it's possible you know you talk about voice recorder it's possible to have one that would have you know I need to record forces but to edit them change the times you know I'm up you know you want to you can have a full recording studio a new phone these days for you well I don't use it very. Well . Now. You've lost the recordings Ok well that's a bit tougher. Because Celtic haven't lost many matches at Celtic Park and yet you lost the recordings stuff. I'm not very smart I'm not. You don't don't take that view it's easily done and smartphone saw on the a small thing that criticism should be by the person who designed the phone and to not tell you you are now dumping it in the dust when. That person is so smart if they didn't put a gadget like that in there you know. I don't know. Robert de do you use a computer for any so other than the smartphone do you have like a laptop or desktop thank. You. So much. Yeah the thing the thing that I'm thinking is as we speak about this is that you know it is easy to delete things by accident and it's also you know ventured out from a break down or develop a fault and you could lose things on there are bad people so that's a use it to make recordings you've got have a way of getting those recordings off that device even if these one song recoverable you know you're going to start making recordings you might shoot some video or take some photos you need to be able to cross yeah back I need to you need to find a way to do a back up and I could see for you that could be was called a cloud backup So in other words if the if the information isn't very private you know you could mark. Yeah you know so one option for you would be to back that up into what's called the cloud which is affect. Your speech Yeah well your Google Play store. Or you you can access it from the phone itself yeah yeah so you won't be on the Internet but you need to be able to you know access the internet from that phone either using Why Farai or if you if your mobile phone are. I'm sorry that's why I thought you were Yeah there's his wife on the phone and also if you will if you will the company that you have the sim card from if they have if they given you a date or location you can to fire that as well but wife I would be the best white but for wife I to work you've got attached to a wife I system and I'm guessing you don't have wife 5 in your home so then you'd be you know going and looking on soap public public wife I'd be you know I'd prefer a coffee shop or you know something like that. And then you can access the Google Play store and that's a revelation take some time to just look around and see what's available there a lot of it is free but just be careful when you start downloading apps don't download any apps are brand new and I mean download apps of color reviews and and a lot of good reviews are you going back a long time and also another thing and I'm not suggesting I was most of the fans that you can decide you feel yourself Robert but what I do when I record things or have some things I don't want to lose is I somehow forward them to myself by email if you've got an e-mail account and you just press forward to email on that smartphone of yours and bingo you've got it saved on your a mouse I just say you don't need to go up into the clouds like you know. A cow just somewhere it's not tangible whereas your e-mails are attention was negative press and there is if you want to and and a lot of smart phones are made by Apple have Goltz memory card slots in them so it's also possible to put a micro s.d. Card into those those a little memory costs about the size of the fingernail on your on your little finger and those memory causes as you've already suggested are the coven of expansion cards boom boom and drilling and so we and so we come full circle a section. Of enjoyed tonight and your linkage and thanks for the call rather Andrew good morning good morning I don't think. My question is forcing your own daughter. G.c.s.e. . Exam in the forthcoming year or so. I'm looking for laptop she tells me she actually. Talk I'm looking. Might cost specific. To mine if I just say something very quickly from say you're the expert Ok. Can I just say this because you know I've got duties now 16 everything but when they were that stage they said they need. You find not just any lap top but is the one that all the friends of God have. Actually said on your head be it on your be. Ok. And you do have a particular budget in mind for this I haven't really. Have a no i Pad and i. Do the syllabus she tells me that necessary to have a laptop. So. Either a Windows laptop or a mac broke. In here saying she's got an i Phone in an i Pad gives you a clue which way she wants to go except except that you need to check with the school to see if she needs to be able to run particular software on it right now makes back to Windows machines so before you die out the cash and you can actually corroborate the claim that she needs once you probably actually. Good i Pads are and more capable though that they've become with the latest i o. S. 11 operating system for most uses they're not still they're still not full replacement for everything the laptop can do but you know investigate and asked the school you know wouldn't i Pad be up to the job because he might be or is there particular software needs to run that i Pad cannot run and needs to run Windows Let's assume for the moment we're going to go with a Windows machine because she's already got the i Pad mag choices are Archie fewer and therefore easier to choose from so let's let's talk about Windows machines so earlier. In the program I talked about some of the specs for a good laptop which is you know something like an Intel eye 5 processor a minimum of 8 gigabytes of Ram make sure it's core solid state drive as opposed to a mechanical drive in there with a capacity of at least 250 or 256 kicker bytes Yeah if it's 500 odd so much the better. We mentioned screen size now if she's going to be carrying this to school and cross the cost I would say $1.00 with a slightly smaller screen so something like a 13 inch screen would probably be optimal but the reason for that is a couple reasons for that one is it makes the machine lighter. The bigger the screen the more battery it draws and therefore the battery life will tend to suffer on home ones with because screens all they have to go batteries built into them which makes them heavy a still battery life is important because you know in a sort of school setting and in a college setting it's not always easy to get to a challenge point and you don't want letting you down when you know so you need something with essentially all day battery life now be aware the most manufacturers lied to you about how many hours you will do on the back on a battery you know safe Apple are usually quite reasonably accurate but some of the others are not so they might say to you get 8 hours and you might get 5 so you know you need to to try and get one with a very good battery life on it so that she's got a good chance again through the whole day without whining about constantly charging it up so I would say an ultra notebook computer so look at for example if you look at Windows look at say a Dell x p s 13 that's got the same sort of build quality as a mac not as expensive a bit more upgradeable and a bit cheaper as well I don't know maybe. It depends on the configuration but yeah I would say sort of $700.00 ish. Maybe more depending on the spec that you go for you don't need to go you know for everything you sounded so depressed when you mentioned the money entry I'm going to do it when talking about not come on should be leaping for joy yes. Actually come back to school and scream am school work I never thought that that's like important. Because Also there may be requirements now and those requirements may change in the next year or 2 when you're progressing through school Chris so. I think you need you need to do that because you might also find that she might not want this but that the i Pad might be good enough now. And actually that it hasn't gone to you all day battery wait to tell of the things he said that was your idea by the way Andrew thanks for the call by the way Toby Buckinghamshire Good morning. I like morning good morning why try to be. All right. All I have I like 11 but. Yeah. Similar to a Democrat one of the previous caller Justin Justin Yeah. I would have been you know. I and older father. For I would get a little spinning spinning write a melody while you know. By the way I try to rebut the machine. To load up into the way. That will tell you. I rang ironic apples to pull. A helpful. Study so it was a it was a bad heart but it is on the hard drive. But because the ideas I just machine I don't carry any part for that machine because of the I have to take it to one of their approved repair is. Quite saw to that I took it to a repair. Crew to Paris for a free evaluation. I got 5 go from them say. It was nice they be on the economical repair but I'm surprised he has to do that a study that by survey it was the his on the hard drive plastic plus the graphics card. By so they couldn't. But because the graphics card with Paul the motherboard. The motherboard and the monopole are no longer available for my give all you. Buy. Economical return. It sounds like impossible to repair if they can't get to the motherboard or the probably can only break couldn't they have well yeah by not mild a problem me you do have a backup. They write me back that the machine you know. Bought. The bought because of the cost of a new machine all that silly. But I needed one so now that I know that by a Windows machine I'm not saying you can't restore a backup from an I way on the window. No Not Not Not Not Not really no not not legally because I mean there are things yet to be done to run you know but yeah I mean that's where I live. You can run a still a kill the know what. There is about it but yeah apple don't give a license to anyone to run their operating system other than their on their own their own hardware so you can run when you know you can run Windows legally on a mac but you can't run the macro s. Legally on a Windows p.c. Off people are going to be legally under the legally technically you can do it their oath their arguments you have to take the call if you do it it's not criminal this is it well when he says he needs pirated software I mean you know people run things called hacking torches which are hacked P.C.'s that run like a lot Macs and so forth I don't actually recommend that to you because that's not right or very very quickly you help with child be saved money got mistletoe quickly you are you convinced that it's not just the hard drive because in a way sometimes it's unusual for it to be hard drive and motherboard and graphics and while my mother told me that quickly. The actual my external House hard drive backed up on the only poll on the back of all the hard drive is a foil wired boiler watch connection Ok it's what you don't which was popular for the Mac. Yeah. You can I couldn't find a pay say that had that connection and I boil water. Out of not Ok you got 30 seconds for I think the thing is this we need to get more quotes from from people as to you know more opinions as to the repair ability of that machine if it was just the hard drive it would be an excellent opportunity to swap out the old hard drive for an s.s.d. Spend a minute money into that way if the motherboard is really short genuinely shocked as opposed to what one person has told you then that's not an economic and I'm sorry to bring it to a crashing end the thank you Joe b. In fact is a cover thank you nothing is said as far as the fight is concerned let's get the latest 5 headlines now his math Newman. Blog Premier League for anyone and this is b.b.c. 5 Live series they may have. To clear the way for a break sit deal which she can defend a time speaking during a working dinner in Brussels the prime minister insisted firm progress was being made unions a warning that child care is becoming unaffordable for many families the t.c. 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Lisa now and the president of the Liberal Democrats Sal Brinson the chief exec of next Simon and the Church of England priest and Strictly Come Dancing contestant Richard Coles our political correspondent in words who was watching and he talked to me about some of the show's highlights I think some very interesting things which happened during the course of the of the program I think was no surprise of the general topics being discussed universal credit for. Much bigger news this week breaks it's news every week you think there's much discussion every well. I mean you know there's 2 things here so is it a question time is there's a David Dimbleby and brags. In that order a discussion you think the sky had flown in if it was missing but I thought the new vessel credit was very interesting was we had this contribution from Lord Bruce and so I moved and he's of course a businessman he runs next but also he was very close to David Cameron he was appointed the Conservative peer think about 7 years ago and he said that the current system of universal credit where people were effectively paid 6 weeks in their ears was insane and I think that was a very strong criticism from his point of view actually as a businessman he felt people should be paid in advance I made that point clear even though actually pays many of his workers in areas but I think what was significant about this is our own 25 Conservative M.P.'s had written to the prime minister saying look we are worried about the implementation of universal credit many of them wanted the 6 week period cut to 4 weeks Labor's been pushing for for that as well and indeed for even wider reforms I think you're starting though to get conservative peers putting pressure on the government although they didn't concede in Parliament this week they said today that just abstain when this issue comes up so affectively it was a rather bizarre year the parliamentary vote which was won by 299 votes to 0 because only one conservative m.p. Actually took part and she voted Labor but the law that is the if you like the headline this week behind the scenes is quite a lot going on and what expect to see is presumably some kind of move between know and the budget next month or possibly when they could have built in review of the system in January that the government might start to move on that key demand about how long people have to wait for making that initial claim on the universal credit to when you actually get paid and that is this feeling when there's a consensus yet because the government's been defending it but are Conservative M.P.'s Labor M.P.'s the Dems s.n.p. Who say look this period should be cut so I would be. Surprised if in the next few months that isn't so well here is the question about universal credit as put to the panel how would produce survive with no income no sorry viewings and a 6 week wait for state support. Right that's of course. A reference to the introduction of universal credit which has been very much in the news and being talked about in Parliament and Wilson I would you survive with no income no savings and a 6 week wait for state support I mean I can imagine how difficult that will be. And I think was universal credit in principle is there is a great idea the idea that you go to one place you don't have to fill out millions of forms in millions of different places simplifying the whole process is completely the right policy but this idea that people got to wait 6 weeks to get paid must be wrong and the reason it's wrong is because what does it cost the government to pay people rather pay people in arrears what would it cost the government to pay them in advance and the us is would have to borrow a month that that month of money now the person the body that can borrow by far the cheapest in this country is the government can borrow at less than quarter of percent on overnight money those people who are who are in that position they will have to go to the very very most expensive lenders they'll be boring at rates of 4050 percent so it is insane for the government not to be the poor are rather than the receiver of benefits. He says he's a conservative supporter and a conservative funder What do you say to him I mean let alone all the people who having difficulty with universe so let's explain what universal credits designed to do is the thing that Ok he just says you could borrow the money and get out of the problem now let me explain what his designs do it's designed to enable people to move into sometimes part time work full time work. To have a change of circumstance where when they're in the system they don't have to keep looking back and looking back on reclaiming it's also designs when the situation where someone is working part time 16 hours a week is what I'm going to interrupt you now let's everybody knows this it's been said over and over again that the question that David Mack and asked are asked is about the 6 week wait for it money comes through I think it's a don't bother about white everybody's agreed even labor agrees on. The front page of the 6 week point I was trying to make this is it's designed to replicate your experience in a job receiving benefits back in a job so you actually have a steady flow as you move in spend if it's as you move back into part time work now I don't want anyone to have no money for 6 weeks and we have a system in place that money is available for advance payments people who need it immediately if necessary that's the right thing to say well this is a system like longer this is a system that so far it's a huge reform it's so far been applied 8 percent are perfect claimants we're rolling it out very gradually we're learning lessons to make sure things work when things don't work as well as they should we're making changes that's the right thing to do we. Where were the a let me get my French if you're going out on one second just say that again I'm saying through work Mr Grail in the Tory Party the majority of them yesterday they abstained in the house of the 2 were to give a. Period over there to look into what is going wrong with this and they abstained that has left the people that are suffering discuss they're disgusted so so yesterday's vote was to pause the reform of the reform is a positive it's having a positive effect more people getting into work from Universal Credit is not that was the case from conventional but that's not how we're making changes it goes through with improved the situation room Vance places like we were concerned why maybe what I'm saying is why strong juggles that I was able. To run explaining this well I'll come back to listen until it's hear from labor it is just not true to say that the government is learning lessons from the rollout it's hard. To see. This because it was piloted 1st in Wigan where I live in 2013 and at the end of the pilot 80 percent of people were in rent every is 3 times as much debt as people who hadn't been in this scheme who were also in areas so it's not true to say that the government is learning lessons and it's not true to say that the government isn't aware of the scale of human misery that the chaotic rollout of this program has already caused and yesterday they were given an opportunity to work with olds to post this scheme and work with else to fix it so that it could benefit people and not cause that real hardship and not only did they refuse to do that but they didn't even bother to turn up to defend their policy if my constituents didn't turn up they would be sanctioned and go without money and anything to eat for a significant amount. Time and yet that is precisely what the Tory party who are implementing this policy did yesterday if there was ever a sign that this group of people is not fit to hold office in this country this is a. Decent. Amount and. As you failed to turn up to vote and even the speaker of the House of Commons rather extraordinary has said that the government should show respect to Parliament and say what it means to do why did you abstain Why would you not the government was there we have minutes to speak in the debate we had backbenchers speaking was a very similar actually using nots to votes against a Labor opposition to a motion which is not a binding motion does not mean we failed to turn out how useless it would be very similar to the rest worse it was worse than that there was a 3 line whip for you to abstain they wish so you didn't want to vote that they told people they had to abstain 3 line which is a bit of an arcane term that we know but I just find that is quite extraordinary and it just demonstrates that the government do not know what they are doing they should have stopped the pilots that came in the principles were right Simon's right the principles about simplifying the benefits procedure was spot on but as the pilots started it became clear there were problems and then worse than that in 2015 the new Conservative government then started to make cuts to universal credit that have made things much money worse listen and do what do you make of what Simon Wolfson said that the government should borrow the money and simply paid people to get over the $6.00 week pause not labor policy which is that there is a saying I was paid in advance rather notorious for the game is the government says that you can go borrow to do that and the government says that you can get advance payments but I was sitting in my constituency office in Wigan today discussing this with my stuff we have had so many of these cases over the last few years. And they do not tell you about the advance payment so nobody knows so people aren't getting what they need being told that they have to wait 6 weeks for the money although one in 4 waiting longer because the government can't get it together but it's worse than not say what we found in the pilot in Wigan is that many people didn't have bank accounts so they needed time to get up to speed with that many of the people went online and didn't have access to the Internet in part because the government is cut and cuts and cults so they don't have access to those very basic rights that they need in order to participate in the scheme and the government says that people wait 6 weeks in order to get the 1st pay packet in work but the truth is that for people who are in the least in this country usually a significant minority of those people are paid weekly not significantly so it's just simply not true Ok I've come to pay attention to those in the hands of those many richer coves What's it like to be skint and then to succeed and the benefits it's all well it's it's grim and it's also catastrophic I think it's great we see this in numbers where I've people visiting the think bank not just people actually out of work some people in work are sitting through banks discuss but I think the catastrophic thing is more and more people are getting into renters is what concerns me is that a 6 week gap in income can create renters to the extent that you face the reality the Vix and nothing seems to me to fray the fabric of a community or to undermine the cohesiveness of community in secure housing and that's something which I think is a major major problem is harder and harder to access social housing because there are resources going into it but when you questions are interest then you're really really in trouble the I'm fortunate thing for all the other issues of government is it breaks it does tend to squeeze out their importers who said he said on a night like this I imagine which reason may in Brussels big night there that even the Brits it discussion even squeeze out some of this conversation about universal credit as well as the God that's right I think was interest. It is that break that has dominated so it so many discussions and I think a lot of major things which are going on domestically perhaps I'm getting the attention they deserve including a major welfare reform at Universal Credit and I said fewer than 10 percent of people are on that particular benefit at the moment brings together 6 other benefits but that is a plan to roll out there are costs to pause it and I think know people in other areas of the country that haven't yet transferred onto universal credit to beginning to see what some of its benefits and indeed some of its flaws are likely to be but I think on the on the brakes it's negotiations I think it's far more important from the government's point of view to try to get them to move on to roll out if you like the next stage of the break at the garage Nations and get on to these crucial trade talks and effective illusion didn't say that in terror as with reason they were saying over dinner to our colleagues in Brussels colleagues are enemies depending whether you're the prime minister of the chance their own terminology used but basically other 27 e.u. Leaders She had their attention or sitting down to dinner and she effectively said look let's move on together there is an urgent imperative terms of diplomatic speak negotiations can only be carried out with ease chief negotiator Michel Barnier so she didn't say let's move on to trade talks but if you're going to translate it from politicians English different logic inclusion to actual English and saying please for goodness sake we want these trade talks in the fact that many of our more ferret breaks or tears in the conservative ranks have been saying look perhaps we even should consider walking away from these talks I think she would see that potentially as an advantage rather than disadvantage because she could say to you leaders look I'm under pressure and you really need to move you need to give me some slack here it's trying to me that Britain is has been before sinking of you know the comparison with the unraveling of the winds of change as it were when colonial former colonies across the southern Asian continent but also in Africa were claiming their. And said they would negotiate since that time with Greece in the e.u. Positions is an extent and they managed to see those negotiations through rather smoothly if not seamlessly I wonder whether some has been lost in the 50 years since and that we don't know how to negotiate our way out of a paper bag any more is interested actually as the stakes very much taking a long view is that I think you know a lot of people involved at the time would say this was actually a classic way of dealing with these going to negotiations did they would he call an isolation process we did in a much more if you like civilized way than say move towards the words you know that they are going to like saying. That only in terms of nickel as a ship in France get involved in several conflict of course or international unity right North Africa and Britain you know there were problems in many of these countries subsequently there's problems about states and infrastructure and economies were in but it seems as a negotiating success but of course the people would point out including people are very pro brags that they would not even have their own trade negotiations for 40 years and probably devolve too much responsibility they would argue to the European Union and we simply don't have that level of negotiations either the top or the Foreign Office or in the Treasury or amongst Britain's own economists or to some extent perhaps we were not prepared for it but I think that there was also a political consensus post-war that it was time to if you like recognise the. Aspirations to self-determination when it came to creating both and extending the commonwealth this time of course the divisions within the Labor Party the divisions within the conservative party the Liberal Democrats are not quite as divided but you see British political parties even if people say yes we set a referendum result we sign up the concept of breaks it then divisions over along a transition period should be watch it happen at the end of that transition period should we stay in customs union or a bit of it should we try and stay in single market and I think from the point of view the Europe. Union able to if you like. Use the fact that we're not all singing from the same hymn sheet to say actually what we can't possibly speed up these negotiations you haven't told us what kind of post brags that we're owed you want for the ball back into court and I think what surprised some of the people involved in the British negotiations that decided that the 27 other countries have shown such unity it was expected that some wouldn't as expected as frankly part of the strategy actually other than say that explicitly they're going to talk to each unit as of the head of the chief negotiator Michel Barnier they're going to try to get some of them to put on pressure because their industries are needed the trade they would Britain it's not really been happening there so it was one of the things a Boris Johnson was saying that we could make our unilateral deals on the side of the euro for you know that you get to happen within the European into that instead over the last year or so those as we say where it has dominated Question Time extra time it has been possible you know my point is a member of the the t.v. Audience at least to see whether a particular audience is pro or anti Brits it's do you get that sort of sense of a division there tonight I think that the audience was certainly divided an issue there's no consensus on an issue about or thought was interesting there was the effect of the when he's a non-dealer you'll be. Former Labor frontbencher was saying look it will be a total disaster if we don't get a deal you know basically trucks were lining up at Dover flights won't be able to take off your kind of Boudin hist bisection the audience there are very very vocal The didn't like this idea that no deal was indeed the washed possible deal and I think there was a feeling among some of the people in the audience in Dunstable that they felt that people should be talking down Britain's prospects I thought what was cross when was the interesting audience contributions actually saying if we get the saying we voted for break that why don't you politicians get together in a more unified way and now you're for it and make it happen and there's very little unity on the panel we're used to that by knowing. This grilling had voted for brags that. The Transport Secretary reason undated voted to remain so Brinton would Dems would voted to remain. As we mentioned from next to voted to leave Russia and the business leaders actually voted to leave so the panel were divided but there was a frustration I think among some sections of the audience that those divisions are continuing well beyond the referendum process and I think there's also perhaps less tolerance allowed to expect it actually for an argument saying look no deal is the worst possible do it well let's have a listen to listen and I think we can hear her contribution to that as well it would be a catastrophe it is a big issue it's the biggest issue that this country currently faces you know the reality is that if we end up coming out of the e.u. Without a deal at all then we will see flights grounded we'll see despite what Chris was trying to say this week no. We will see flights grounded we will see lorries fucked up at ports we will see food prices rising now we face a very real prospect of a hard border with Northern Ireland there is no question that no deal would be worse. The worst possible deal of all and increasingly now I think the cabinet is divided into 2 groups of people the realists like the understand this and I like this who believe that no deal is a realistic prospect the truth is there is no serious credible cabinet minister who currently believes that no deal is an option and this week we have the prospect of the Bracks it secretary standing at the box in the House of Commons saying no deal is a negotiating tactic The trouble is they can hang him over in Brussels but you know we think. That you single. Grandstanding and both thing and got serious about how we are going to get the best deal out of the e.u. So that we can move this. Rice economy. Question Has Grayling is did the panel think do you think no deal in Europe is really such a bad thing on somebody believes in free trade and so therefore I think a free trade agreement with the European Union would be a good thing for us and for the European Union and therefore my colleagues and I are going to work very hard to achieve that what we're not going to do is adopt a Labor policy which is say deal at any cost now what happens if they turn around say give us a $100000000000.00 euros or no deal that's a load off. For us. So we are going to work hard to deliver a sensible deal we're going to work hard to have a proper neighborly friendly relationship with the European Union but we're also going to prepare so we're ready if that doesn't happen so you would walk away in certain circumstances to resume I was very clear in saying no deal is better than a bad deal we will work hard to prepare the way for a good deal with the European Union but you would all expect us to also prepare for the eventuality that there is none and we will do both I don't expect that to happen I don't want it to happen but we'll make sure we're ready for it if it does . All right. To do it would be great you know vegetables. But we've certainly won't have a plane sitting on the ground the planes will carry on flying the idea. Of the planes landing in the summer it's when you know it's agreement and then you scrape the hotels and it was just for the birds if it's for the birds why did the chance of the Exchequer reveal it as a possibility he didn't perhaps he said I'm not going spend lots of money on it because it's not going to happen he says it is theoretically conceivable that no deals in area there would be no air traffic moving Well I think the time secretary say it would be unthinkable because we won't know this because you don't think about goal is to secure a deal with the European Union that's good for all of us all right let's look at look at MIT's defeat we're not going to say we can fail she said she didn't say this is the best thing for to work towards that but we're prepared for the terms of . Ok. Together so that we can get out of the e.u. Yeah what did you work together all right so much time fighting with each other Ok I'll come to you later on but you know but you go I think it's a very good question it seems to be I'm having flashbacks the universal credit things we seem to have a real problem with rollout story real problem with a wristwatch a big rollout was exactly. Something I'm a big problem with universal credit rolling out we had a big problem is a big problem is all I Cipro checks in the b.b.c. In the n.h.s. Huge room with h m r c and changes to status for employees moving them to employed status and the biggest one of all of course is breaks it Mar impression is sometimes that we're approaching a very uncertain where the cliff edge actually and if it is a cliff edge I want to abseiled down the cliff I don't want to jump down the cliff and I want to see a plan figure still get to the bottom pretty fast I never want to get the ball so without splatting it would be would be. To give you well I'd love to see a little bit more to you Do you think that sorry that the question was whether the new deal would be such a bad thing given no deal would be a disaster you say Dr abseiled down the cliff I think I'm with Amber Rose on that one I'm not very often with Amber right on anything but it seems inconceivable to me I want to up sell Ok Sabran. The problem with the rules which is what Chris said was the way out if we have no deal is that immediately we are legally required to slap tariffs on anything coming from the e.u. And vice versa and the sorry. Well 40 percent beef and the Welsh farm is a union that no we are legally obliged to him we are absolutely and cost 10 percent close 12 percent to 20 percent for business spirits and that's a problem it's certainly a problem for both countries in the e.u. Exporting to us but it is a major problem for us particularly in places like Northern Ireland with a hard soft border and 90 percent of goods from the knowledge go down to the Republic of Ireland but the brand such a Beside you disagrees with all this just it's just not true that we have to have those what we have to have the same tariffs on everyone but that doesn't mean it has to 40 percent we may change just say Actually we're going to have 0 tires on all food from all countries what we can do is say you're if we don't have a special agreement we can't have special arrangements in Europe but we it is absolutely wrong to say we have to have tariffs at any level so they can set that problem is we have to say the tariffs absolutely identically the world which means we also have to one do the deals that the government are doing beginning to talk about with other countries there's one deals to everything you can't pick and choose once you these rules and I am sorry it is complete do you agree with that it's got to be economic issues but that doesn't mean we have to have high tariffs and in fact a lot of us seem very selective person for it because actually we can become more of a free trade nation we don't have to have this. And that was question time it was our last night very So you would soon as well for breaking it down for us in the next hour of the program revolving out about New Zealand's next prime minister. Young. Compared to me in any case 37 year old would you could carry our youngest leader more than 150 years and the youngest female leader very developed economy in the world so I know you're asking I know you're asking. For news lawyer. So to me this is the same if it's a phone call good morning this is all part of. The news on 5 Live to reason man has told us she needs to reach a break sit deal she can defend to Vice's. Misery for Ronald Koeman as Everton lose in the Europa League. This is b.b.c. B.b.c. News on fall God is Martin human to reason my leaders to create a new dynamic him breaks it talks the prime minister told you counterparts the progress is being made and called for a deal that she can defend to residents of the u.k. Our political correspondent is adamant the e.u. Doesn't want to raise him a to go home totally empty handed that's the b.b.c. Understands why they are going to be promising to start talking amongst themselves about trade and transition Dales but they won't yet go on to talk to the u.k. Directly about that because they say they need more compromise from to reason a study published in The Lancet medical journal suggests that pollution killed at least 50000 people in Britain in 2015 health charities argue that the u.k. Is not doing as much as the United States and all the European countries to curb harmful emissions it's claimed that millions of my bowl phone uses it being routinely overcharged by their contract providers Citizens' Advice says customers of 3 of the U.K.'s biggest companies Vodafone and 3 are being challenged by hand says but which they have already paid for in full the company's insists that they do charge that prices the president of the European Council Donald Tusk says the e.u. Won't be intervening in the situation between Spain in Catalonia the Spanish government says it will be gone it began rather removing some of the region's autonomous powers at the weekend under article 155 of the Spanish constitution marry a Magara is a journalist who lives and works in Catalonia. It's not so clear what is going to and what exactly are the goal means we have to wait next Saturday when there will be the extraordinary council or minister in my great were I mean special government will make peter out exactly which kind of measure they are going to take the White House chief of staff has defended President Trump against criticism over his phone call to the widow of a soldier who was killed by Islamist militants Gen John Kelly whose own Marine some was killed in Afghanistan says he was stunned when a Democratic congresswoman claimed the president had been disrespectful with his comments his way try to express that opinion is a brave man fallen hero he knew he was going and self into it because he enlisted there's no reason to list the list he was where he wanted to be exactly where he wanted to be with exactly the people he wanted to be with when his life was taken that was the message the most comprehensive survey of dialects in England is to be opened up to the public nearly 40 years after it was created the project will bring back the age old debate savor a royal perhaps a bomb or a splinter verses a scale for Fiona Douglas from the University of Leeds is behind the projects we're going to have activities with the 5 partner museums around the country so people will be able to engage with the project there and we'll also have a project website where not only will people be able to access the fantastic archive that we have but they'll be able to their own stories on their own memories Time now for the sport with. Everton's chances of progressing from their Europa League group look slim after a 21 home defeat to Leon it leaves them bottom after 3 games that manager Ronnell cumin admits it puts his job under increased scrutiny arsenal by contrast are top of their. 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The jealous he's done the math on how many tweets Donald Trump is composed his becoming president will get the week's news from us as well where it's at the end of an era there for car manufacturing and yes in a moment we'll find out just who this new prime minister in New Zealand is in fact let's find out right now if front page of The Guardian this morning says just sinned Nanya just in the mania excuse me just in the mania wins the day and this is because it just. Has become New Zealand's youngest prime minister after her labor party struck a deal to lead a coalition government at 37 years old she will also become the youngest female leader of any developed economy in the world when I speak to May Herren news of political journalists at Radio New Zealand May What more can you tell us about dissin the odds and we know she's young would we know else more about. Well the live it and the English are with obviously the previous prime minister described it was that she has had a remarkable rise to be in this position and August just 6 feet in the wakes before the election here that was when she became the leader of the opposition so she hadn't been that long an opposition and not only that but she actually only became deeply laeta of the opposition and match it with yes and she has had. A rise in that just and that may be a that you talked about with different restrain on the campaign trial it was saying Ashton about evenly that we she was like crowds of people who just wanted to get a glimpse of her and that the family wasn't previously the latest And so it was it is an extraordinary thing to witness and now as you say she of marriage just got to deal with what they did and they come the next government of New Zealand as well as by default she becomes a feminist feminists our economy she lives are not. Yet it's what lots of people have been talking about just in the ad and what she might meet the new deal and she . Youngest prime minister and I have to give Bill and lots of people are talking about what the. Government may look like and we kind of had an indication last night we went and now go back to that meeting an economic and social change talked about how capitalism had that move rather than a friend to me in jail and so what will probably happen is the Labor Party and. So. Some of the wealth around here on targeting people in poor conditions people who get lower wages and really trying. To be some of that well there that's good of Egypt push me back on track and see where we can be talking about it just in the . Historic leader but we should be to grab politics as well So essentially she's to the left as she of the line about it as she is yes the Life Party is on the list at least when the media interest has actually gone by why they started with both our national and labor and the past and so they're going all part of this government West. But if I lost a bit more and I at least in my party you know with leaders like this here have a maniac about the more you know love concision sin value says that this just in the mania that the Guardian talks about there's usually a. Honeymoon period in which votes is and indeed a presidency will allow that leader to make the mistake they're going to make and then after that it's going to get serious you know that how long will that. Be do you think a few weeks months or. It's very interesting I mean obviously she came in during an election campaign and election campaign has its own sort of but it could have been hard to tell even during that election campaign with what we were witnessing was part of the campaign we thought was. Just and I didn't herself you know every state and previous latest doesn't quite have it so I mean by the end even though English she was the time to say the time didn't even have its I mean here that I'm into we could see light. Drop back a little bit on the pulse towards election night and so they actually got seats least in the National Party but just because of the why the Imp a Wix and just and I did a beautiful make government now what will happen over the next few days is slightly more ideas around the policy so basically concession the light of cause he had to make in order to secure that government position with media interest I think when we see that we can start to tell a little bit more about what had just had to play and I think that would play into the fact of how long this honeymoon period my all might not go on for and also this is grabs the most important question from a point of view may. We were used to previous remailed prime minister of New Zealand Helen Clark speaking to us here on our poll not own father live on a regular basis fairly regular basis from her office as prime minister do you think just into our day and has even heard of us or not. I'm sure she has and she actually had quite ridiculous contact with her in class she was speaking to his wife through the campaign and even here raised very recently as well so you know I felt glad was with you guys but I'm sure it would have been some sort of exchange about that you guys but just in that infuriate. Chip tricky question comes across a theory frequently open Kristen and I don't see why not that would continue to see why not as well and the food to Mary thank you very much Jennifer you was great see you again exhausting. May have been their political journalists at Radio New Zealand and finally it was in the morning papers Nabby speaking to Alan McKinley use these pools not any of the Daily Mirror about the stories on their back pages. Ecstacy them are shocked I'm siding for Manchester United or Man United in the headline I got a star tells pal he's leaving for Old Trafford partially for the young John Cross the nose will go cause arsenal. Fairly told his team mates even assigned to Manchester United now there's an interesting stories because you hardly ever get a player saying what he's going to do before he does it so that's why I take his life particularly interesting of course you have a contract at the end of the day and can lead to nothing so I would make sense for Arsenal to sell him in January. As of course place a cherished memory knew what he was a Real Madrid and famously called him the best number 10 in the world at that point and anybody the source of forms against what it could not possibly call mezzo best number 10 in the world probably not even in the us not saying so perhaps this would be a good move for an elder I loved it when he was with wires around but it sets him up for numerous goals and of course he's a favor at the Emirates after losing his starting place as one might no secret that is preparing to leave stuff fascinating. Yeah I'm sure the judge would love it so you can play a signing like that just upset Arsenal and of course Aston venturi it's a material I thought will be interesting to see what the response is to this story not least from asa venue but also from the Austin faithful as well yeah yeah very much because I don't get a license with leaving place to them anyway I will remember what I felt about Robin van Persie got a bunch of different things but vampires he was scoring goals at the top level. Now but it's not. It's his language style that people have never really understood that he gives it gives everything for the same they've always felt the eat something of a luxury player yeah and sometimes just isn't up for. Yeah I want simple stuff going the other y. e You know if it's topic I reckon guitars you know players look to see the flaws in the fans love to see it try it out why would you know the best number 10 in the world chasuble But if you were to be. Right back in. Maybe that's why it's great you know it's. About a prick back you might have a track back and of course one of the European caches this evening was featuring every 2 months and that almost turned out to be well it was controversial also so was yeah I was here last arms earlier and I've now had the worst I ever saw in english same in the Europa League and I got one point just from the 1st 3 games losing arms to lay on a cold outside of the office just 6 minutes and to be honest I want playing very well of soul and suddenly the Williams challenge really on go there was a big and should have been booked just for that and then started throwing punches and pushing people who's like my light down in from says a lot of road and we haven't seen the fans the players are fairly into the heavens and just some of the support systems force pushed back and they got very nasty and they looked as if there were going to be a few red calls. Flushed but that didn't happen Ashley Williams got away with it and 2 minutes later he did an equaliser at this point Goodison Park rocking and as we'll as we know you don't know what you need when the game is drifting away free is a good home town shall not seem to be what happened the crowd on something everything and then we were all expecting the biggest potion of props inevitably lay on school through a trial run with 15 minutes to go on it's been a disastrous results Ronald Koeman has also been slashed 7 to one on knees now to become the 1st Premier League managerial casualty at the season's are not good not for Everton and so I was involved to European figs he was today as wherever today you're covered by those travelling very much in the very much they are small. One Red Star Belgrade. And just an absolutely sensational call Violet with the headlines of the head start out right how's that for Carnage erosion like when an outpost also criticized diatribe. Kept on the weekend for not having the lights just like us. But hey I also went to rest I'll buy one of the most hostile stadiums in Europe and the crowd was buzzing and you know also some things are flying off the pitch cap that can stay resilient and 5 minutes from the end it was really a little one touch MacClassic optional to tap the football field and still be just behind him he turned his body and with a magnificent I would hate controlled as well controlled I would kick into the corner of the net and agree with knocking on points I actually got here and was fantastic on the course we've seen him do before and I think it was Christmas Crystal Palace was at the Emirates when he did a remarkable sort of backwards from behind back Hail to the scorpion as we call the story and of course this wasn't this not choir school tea and this is a this is a very but a very very clever girl and all they need to do that much more regularly for their lives yes event is no good I mean these things actually go once in a while but no score go to regular bases he would say well if you pick me from the start all the time and I have to be more likely time later unless like calling it like is that there as well. And I think. Luck has it and well because they get into it yes I. Mean you have cited having seen him do you want to take place could have done it but it was a was just one that one of the great calls I really was going to see is protection go but I don't think we would go for the move goes farther than. Movies less in this respect anyway and to continue for the one Troy D.D.'s is Woods is. Manages responds. To the public knocker Sylvia I didn't enjoy his comments that as much as I did I thought it was a great interview in March that I could see some of. The Nissan is lost in all optional fantasy and was a mask on so not talking is that it was right which was which was great and it was great to hear about our But also said famously now that the Lexus car nice and went out for the fight against love it now Marcus over the water managers told me to keep his Mattia and not talk about other things his money I'm talking about what it . Says that he knows my opinion of what he said I want to finish the situation must be opinion stays between me and him but we all know what he's telling not to do that anymore which is a great shame for us. You say that you know many cats in the club captain knows and understands perhaps the spirit of the club and what the fans want to know this most often what you think perhaps better than the manager is wonder whether it manages shut up and listen to the captains of jams you I'm sure a lot of fans would like to get off and much much neutrals quite enjoyed what he had what he had to size Well it was nice to nice to have someone come to come to the microphone and not just cite a large did well as pledges nice to get 3 points and I was nice to hear him nice to hear him talking about what they were talking about beforehand and saying actually happened on the pitch after which thoroughly enjoyed the interview but fortunately for him during that certainly talking about the opposition in that way for a lot of things I see that you go some good news is good news but it is good news for the people who were involved in the nativity on Christmas Eve is that Yeah absolutely yeah yeah they do if we want to process bells and Holly on a on occasion heavy metal type we've got on the back I. Find it hard to go into gang signs at least rather than the elm jazz bands playing a major victory not a life or merely going to be shot on Christmas Eve the sky looking to snow this little as a super Sunday for him to take off that fiction has now been brought forward. Friday and the check off and t.v. Bosses followed along quite a strong backlash from fans groups who objected to it I know that also having studio problems because there was a lot of into a lot of people having to work on Christmas Eve or otherwise would have been able to have that die off and now and now but that isn't going to happen and we got in touch with the football scores Federation saying that they were late on the Christmas to fiction series never to be popular with much going fans now whether whether they'll be in any more victories light is over armchair fans and the wishes of clubs remains to be saying the sentence of a trade you can enjoy and you say is down in the dumps and you're inside pages. Chelsea boss and said Here comes the. Supposedly losing mind games which are same wring out who they were out a little Chelsea Chelsea instead of the clubs crying crying about injuries and of course it seems to be something not quite right Chelsea with out of a loss to Premier League I mean a lot of love clubs would kill top Chelsea problems in May But it's not quite the same a formidable look that Chelsea had last season comes late does seem a little bit more subdued and down in the dumps interviews and stuff and we've got the Phil Neville sign that one of the perhaps one of the reasons that. Chelsea frustrates me is because I feel a lot of players go out on loan Tommy had grounds of swans they live in Loftus jigsaw in Crystal Palace online and come says that he's he's got a very few options for his 1st team squad regime which seems just strange enough not to make an AK I was in several calling him line last season left him on the bench. Saniel to lot of loose by current playing for England youth teams moving to a men's they're not going to get a chance at Chelsea and a quote from Phil Neville is a disgrace Chelsea should close their academy. But maybe he's right and what about the person saying that there's a glossy ling for British manages in the Premier League Yes this is handed down with the left a job available now officer had. Craig Shakespeare. And he's talking about glossing for the British managers he says and the big 6 clubs sits above it is understandable why Sean dodge would be interested in a in the last a job more away just for a challenge left of course if we could forget Premier League champions season before last and well he's been a big 5 he's doing a great job on limited resources by his dangerous you know the left to do list as they proved with Ronnie area Nashik they will suck the manager at the drop of his wife if he did take over and from the new lecherous of the bottom 3 he'd be sacked again and he does point out a quite Shakespeare was in charge of $21.00 Premier League games one I lost I drew on the folly of the losses I mentioned City twice Austin twice much as United Chelsea Liverpool and ever since are no disgrace there and he ends by saying good luck to the eventually feels the cyclist really needs moved on your student to lead to Leicester City and let's talk about. As we say in French. Well. You had lot of little pay in pay bribes now peabrain of course refer to Andy Carroll because of his description by a manager so delicious Civita that I was to elbow as a good sense of against Burnley lustily with a sign on the door she can retire which of course the Spanish still little pay his nickname to Mexico you obviously hate or I might have thought of course he's often been employed at y. But this time because of Terrell suspension he's going to be up front have a center forward religious sign with most players back he can enjoy the games more because he had to play in those positions because of because of suspensions and injuries now he can play out front in the middle and he says slow but he says on very excited what did the big piece to the little soupy go on and I don't know. If you're a for me said guns question ago I said I'm going to need for a couple of years. It is the. Less the city's term in terms of marriages and by Bruce Well what he's saying about yeah it's been several headlinese resulting changes often role players demand some answers over shock of Shakespeare sacking. Led by. I think I'll pass that correctly and I will rely on you to correct me if I haven't played players backlash after actually like that after just getting into the union because my glasses a difficult position and he's been facing questions from the players during which he discovers a rule making the team making Shakespeare was got rid of course in the bottom 3 and I went he says making before lunch hour training was a little bit rude or people want to question just ring but I'm not the person for that he said they couldn't answer the questions but into the will allow them to approach the hierarchy to the board directly after the game was once a. Smart question of the senior members of staff and not myself he said he said after the players had been training they got back into the swing of it and were smiling again he said but there's a lot of resentment and anger and it's not surprising really a question as they were very popular manager and has done pointed out a little bit unlucky with his record to be fired as well McKinley of the mirror the Hollywood film director Quentin Tarantino has admitted that he knew about instances of alleged sexual assault by Harvey Weinstein for decades in an interview with The New York Times he said there was more to it than just the normal rumors the normal gossip he also said that he wishes he had taken responsibility and done more to protect the women involved Tanti knows a mission comes as police in Los Angeles say they're investigating another case of alleged sexual assault involving Mr Weinstein in his knees in this new case a woman times that she was raped by the film producer in 2013 Meanwhile Tom Hanks has been talking to the b.b.c. And he says there's no way back Favi Weinstein the Oscar winners. Only would his at a watershed moment deny his training complicit because he was part of the movie making machine that allowed the alleged behavior to go on now if you Weinstein unequivocally denies rate Tom Hanks said it's a Will Gump It's about whether they could be any place in or he would for the movie mogul off to be allegations now. Well if they were in a watershed moment this is a sea change I think his last name will become a noun and a verb will become a identifying moniker for state of being for which there was a before and an Aptor No not not at all I mean no do you feel in any way complicit simply because you're part of this Hollywood machine which is I don't know how this sort of activity go on if Hollywood in the entertainment industry was the only place where sexual harassment occurred I would say yes but you and I know that that's not the case it's built into the rules of society what can happen out of all of this is there is going to be righteously I think a pause in the discussion. For the women to be heard meaning that. Perhaps all men myself included should pipe down and not try to explain it and not try to comment on it certainly not to try to defend it or even try to prosecute it because what has to happen right now is we need to listen to everyone who's ever been a victim and give them the full throated opportunity to speak as specifically as they are comfortable to doing every one of those women 100 percent of them need to be listened to I was talking to a very famous very well respected actress who's a very good friend of yours who said almost entirely the opposite she said it's time for the man to stand up to something else well I'm saying that 1st we got to hear from everybody so that we understand how vast and how all encompassing this was. That's a b. Is it's all got to change there though I try to figure out if there's a worse word to use than predator and I don't think there is in this in this circumstance I think there should be a code of ethics posted in every lunch room of every company on the planet that says Here is the behavior that is expected of you as an employee of this company on the code of ethics one of the actors representatives on the Academy Board I believe you must have been involved in that conversation about so was having Harvey Weinstein removed from the account I am a member of the Board of Governors So yes yeah I wasn't at the meeting and what of that conversation sound like I'm not at liberty to discuss I began my responsibilities did you talk about issues like should we have a code of ethics etc Honestly I'm not it I'm not at liberty to discuss it those are closed meetings and I completely agree with the statement that was put out by our president John Daly and he didn't discuss Bill Cosby or on the Polanski I don't know how many more times I can put it in this way but I'm not at liberty to discuss that do you think there should be. Quotas in boardrooms proper female representation on all the major boards of all the major companies in the movie business there should be of course of course there should without a doubt whether should be paying no attention to gender whatsoever and it should be a meritocracy. Particularly for anyone and this is b.b.c. 5 Live. To reason to 80 leaders to create a new dynamic in breaks it talks speaking at a working dinner in Brussels last night the prime minister called for a deal that she could defend at time a study has found 9000000 people died prematurely in 2015 gy to pollution the report published in The Lancet medical journal says the death rate is high in Britain and in most other western nations Los Angeles police say they're investigating another case of alleged sexual assault involving Harvey Weinstein the woman claims she was raped by the film pretty set back in 2013 he's denied all claims of nonconsensual sex people have been celebrating the Hindu festival of to volley across the u.k. One of the biggest events that held it causing to park in Leicester Time now for the sport with soccer Everton's chances of progressing from there Europa League group look slim after a $21.00 home defeat to live on it leaves them bottom after 3 games that manager Ronnell cumin admits it puts his job under increased scrutiny arsenal by contrast are top of their group boss Arsene Vanga says his side showed character to win one will away to Red Star Belgrade alleviation Ruth scored the winner 6 minutes from time Scotland's Women meanwhile came from behind to be Bellerose 21 in their opening World Cup qualifier in rugby union's European Challenge Cup Gloucester running 9 tries as they beat $6116.00 scrum half Reece Webb says he will not change his decision to join too long next year even though it means he'll not be eligible to play for Wales a Welsh Rugby Union rule change means players. New deal with. Through to the quarterfinals of. Good morning you may have heard that we next storm heading toward the u.k. . Set to arrive through the coming into Saturday to bring on. Through the night it slowly. But. Tonight. Every night the rain will be rattling its way through on the strengthening winds the gales of a gale the focus to be many 7 West areas that are awarding the force a place to make this last full question listen and they coincide with some spring time as well so be some rather large and dangerous waves around as we go into the weekend said gusts of winds 60 possibly 70 miles an hour with the trees in full on the ground what does mean we anticipating some disruption as at a place to change to the forecast and let's. See. a digital radio listening women in Canada will be fools to remove their burkas says public services including riding a bus under a new low in the province of Quebec women who work as teachers daycare workers and doctors will also be forced to remove their face coverings the government this is the purpose of the new law is to ensure the state and religion are kept separate and to reduce the presence of conspicuous religious symbols in public well she hinted city key is from the National Council of Canadian Muslims and she's also the executive director of the Islamic Social Services Association you know my initial reaction was How can that happen in Canada. As experience you're disappointed of us Sure sure that this never happened and my country that. It has unfortunately it was expected to certain extent because Quebec has been deliberating this issue for a couple years doesn't it I know and most Canadians have been speaking up against it you remember they tried to bring in the charter of values that was defeated we expected a Liberal government that's now in there was so gung ho against it would not bring something like this just hoping the same no minds would prevail but I guess and we can have the disappointment in your voice Why are you so upset by. You know Canada is a country where I believe we stand for for human rights we stand for the right of women to choose a 4th so far so long to get women the right to choose to you know and the right to religious expression and engine so it's fairly disappointing because it seems we are regressing rather than progressing human rights issues when you don't understand the reasons behind it when the the they just come back says look this is for security reasons and other things and also when I speak to you I should be able to see them talking to the 2 things that you've raised a number one is security listen and women who wear the niqab they show their id when they need to they have driver's licenses they travel the world so they have passports so they have photo I.D.'s and to see who they are they are visible then a cab writes It's not an issue and then secondly I need to see your face but just because you are uncomfortable with not seeing me have been seeing me in a cab is not good enough and not protected by the Charter of Rights that you know you shouldn't pay and comfortable we talk on the phone right now you're not seeing my face but are we not having a meaningful conversation. You know and it's just. It's bizarre the 7th day of the snow. Will ban the niqab or the book or is it a ban in public places on public transport and so on Exactly so what does a woman do have to cover the face not leave her home if she is in the hospital she can get so she has a go she is wearing in a cab the fundamental right of every Canadian to serve in public sector is being denied and we're not sure now who's going to police said the bus drivers people running that you the hospital doctors I mean it's it's just so ridiculous and can you imagine what they have opened their doors to so I am an issue and I hope sitting on a bus where woman rebelling cab gets on I have given him the legal right or her the legal right to go in a car seat her fall off on a car you know the violence that this can ensue and really not all that violence against Muslim women is on the rise and has meaning to beg for our leaders to give that kind of a license to say yes to now this is against the laws so now you know citizens can take draw into their own hands and police these days and since you brought it up since you brought it up is there a fundamental right for citizens to cover up their faces for example. When I ride a motorcycle and I have my helmet and I go into the petrol station or in a bank they require that I take my crush obit off I'm not making comparisons but I'm saying immediately I have to accept I have no fundamental right to keep my crash helmet on and in the same thing you know other respects if I suddenly saw somebody with a ski mask walk into a bank I think a lot of people would object to that is there a fundamental right this is a right yes 1st of all because it's a part of of the guard. But the dress that that woman bears right so we have Taliban who are forcing women to dress in a certain way and now we have. Best in leaders telling us what not to wear Secondly as depressed as the woman's right that this is she considers this her religious obligation or her religious expression now our Supreme Court has already ruled that you know it's an individual's interpretation of their faith and their individual expression of their faith and practice of their religion that is protected so yes you may find many Muslims who will say or others don't well it's not really a requirement in your faith so what if you believe that that's what needs to be protected right and as I have already said they do have licenses they divers license they do have passports for a reason and that they need to they will and they do identify themselves but to have her uncovered all through the bus ride or all the time she's waiting in a waiting room in a hospital where there is public it's again I think oppressive and it's colonial anything you can do about say you yourself or the organizations you represent the National Council of Canadian Muslims or indeed these nomic Social Services Association people in general people you don't have to be Muslim to object to this do you absolutely absolutely and there has been an overt of positive support coming from Canadians on this issue so I am expecting to see a lot of protest in Montreal people getting on the bus the niqab so on and see what they can do about it but we are also going to be looking at if there are legal venues because this is an constitutional and the will be looking into that and others as well for our organization where I do social services will be able be I'm sure it's getting women for counseling for me you know empowering them. For giving them the courage but at the same time also supporting the families because children of these women who wear the niqab are just such you know one or 2 percent of the total québec population. How are they feeling how are they going to be harassed and really you know it's not a simple edict that has been passed but it is something that is insidious. Say about what the likelihood of a protest March what for me might take there is likely to be a Rosa Parks moment is made she being the black woman who in 955 if you get out the front the Vermont governor of Alabama bus to sit for a white person sit the front and that triggered off the civil rights movement essentially that's a point the people say to get off the civil rights movement so we hear about see in Barking Canada on the rides movement and sounds bad there is a possibility because the civil society has come forward and receiving calls and e-mails from different sectors in the community giving their support doesn't matter if they're on the right or the left because you remember this is a slippery slope once you take of a rights of one Canadian you take away tomorrow it could be another Canadian right but the pain is the Rosa Parks moment have already happened in in Canada when our previous government wanted to ban a woman from taking the citizenship. And bearing in the car and was one Muslim woman of all wars and a God took it all the way up to the court and won and again but it was also the information around it the narrative was these women how do they know that who they are what they say they are about court system is set up for citizenship and the woman takes off a job she is identified for Hoshi years and then going to court but the place the courtroom is. The public spaces and cameras are there and so you know an interesting thing is we have to ask a favor by in 2017 women have been very negative sticking with providing the best doing all kinds of stuff teachers doctors you name read a lever being an issue right and suddenly today you know that elections are up and there is a populous really that you know and this is I'm a phobia has become acceptable at your thank you again passion on this show it's it's very as I said and it is and it's a very collegial. City from the National Council of Canadian Muslims She's also the Executive Director of these Namak sensual Services Association. And listen to this the fake news is going crazy with wacky Congresswoman Wilson who was secretly on a very personal cool and gave return to law on consent well and I quote That is one of the very latest tweet from Donald Trump remarkably a new report in The Washington Post has found that he's tweeted more than 1800 times now since becoming president and that amounts to more than 11500 minutes or 8 days or approximately 3 percent of his time in office has been spent to eating or composing treats Washington Post correspondent Philip Bump compiled the figures and asked him if we should be surprised that the president has treated so much well we certainly do respect a lot of time tweeting given how often. I think that I was still surprised when I actually tried to figure out how much time he'd spend on the courses presently I was surprised by the extent of time that he appears to have spent doing just that yeah it does seem on the surface when you say that he has spent some 3 percent of his time in office tweeting or 8 days and his time in office or if you like 11500 minutes of his time in office to break it down a little bit further than a different where. In the 2nd so what you're seeing is that he has spent on average. Or he tweets on average once every 3 hours and 40 minutes doesn't sound like a lot when you break it down like that I know he's going to sleep some of the times to write well what I'm actually thinking is that it takes him about 6 and a half minutes to formulate a 20. Different sort of calculus right and so that's based on you know sometimes will do 2 tweets in a row the continuous thoughts and on average it takes about 6 and a half minutes to finish that 2nd part of his tweet. But that's how long it takes and that means that given he's tweeting other times he's spent a solid you know a solid 24 hour days doing this was not just a function of how often he's tweeting it's actually how long it takes him in is to tweak it is it definitively he that is sending the Dizzee know of an Office of people who thinking I know is coming this great idea I mean he may press the button disobedience perhaps compose some of the. Well there certainly are other people that have access to his account or him tweet for him there is a guy named Dan skipping run to social media who we know can tweet from the Donald Trump account at times it's often the case that before he actually want to watch and we heard stories about how he would sort of shout out tweet story for people and one of them want to send out under his name and there have been times when he's been pre-planned went like there's a legal statement that he made on Twitter as well we also know that he said he watches t.v. Most mornings and I don't read along with the t.v. Shows watching which is usually Fox and Friends or do they just this morning so we know that the vast majority of these tweets are from him and are pretty obviously Oh yeah I did sometimes you see the language is consistent as it were as but it does complicate the issue was used dogs will say well yes they're responsible for every single tweet I mean this is not a charge as it would seem on the surface necessarily is it of a president who is not as no good he's all the job these guys all the social media rather than being president and commander in chief at minute think that does Donald Trump is an unusual president a lot of different ways this is certainly one of the ways. He p. $24.00 you're going to be if it took him 10 seconds to tweet he tweeted so often that it still consumes a lot of his time in his thinking and he's a development agency argues that this is his way of stepping around the mainstream media which is out to get him and said he can present his view of things to his followers and so on so he has all of that said he does that a lot of times yes it's a new kind of democracy as much as you could say is he tweeted as much net is when he 1st took office. Actually fairly been fairly consistent over the course of his time in office he tweeted a lot more 'd on the campaign trail as you might expect and actually there have been a few periods where he's gone through sort of lulls one of them was during the hurricanes that hit Texas and Florida in tweet as much then and actually his popularity went up which I don't think that's really directly related to is not tweeting but suggested his focus on other things is focused on the for games and I think that was reflected in the fact that he wasn't tweeting as much and I think it did him some good as well he'd tell you blaze it to it's it is a useful tool What about the American public the great American public from what you know. As much an homage with these 2 he says is. There was a majority of Americans think that he should stop tweeting and particularly stop tweeting the way that he does you know he sort of private justify why this is a useful thing for him to do but really the reason he doesn't is because he has this knee jerk reaction where he wants to get his view out there and he wants that you know if there's something he disagrees with you want to make his opinion known you can't prevent him from doing it and Twitter is a very good outlet for him to do that but Americans overall have been told repeatedly repeatedly even Republicans think they need to chill out on the tweeting and what about the politicians of the principal in the south the politicians in Congress or elsewhere. See them taken to it's as a way of getting in touch with their constituencies. Well there are there are some politicians certainly who use Twitter in a more aggressive a way now that Donald Trump is using the way he does as a gentleman are in Congress and Ted Lou in California who treats pretty outrageous stuff usually in response to trump and has gained some notoriety for that but you know there's a risk down from an abnormal politician most moral politician can say or do the things trump dies or says and get away with that voters look askance at that but people look at from people they always have had from users that to them as a Washington correspondent Philip Bump Let's get the news from down under not as breeds a film in Sydney quite a momentous day the food because it marks the end of an era really doesn't yes the last car has rolled off the production line at the Holden fact tree in Adelaide marking the end of mass comm making in this country now Holden was the company don't and that gave Australia its 1st ever homegrown mass produced ta and eights been shipping cause to the Middle East and Brazil for many many years it follows Fords and Toyota in shutting up shop here in Australia the domestic car industry really being overtaken by cheap imports and also really an old time motif set that was slow to adapt and slow to take on new ideas and methods government subsidies have also been reduced over the years and the hundreds of workers in Adelaide and now losing their jobs and for them this is a very sad day it have your ups and downs but it is very much time it's another straw in our condo. And it's a sad dark for this country well we're losing manufacturing and I might a great product as well I started working on a 178 when it was 4000 food on men. I'll be honest though I did know the there was a Holden car company because crucially in terms of exports they never exploded you just how how great a loss is this to strain in general will Holden has in fact being owned by the American company General Motors since the 1930s it isn't an Ozzie I call the Holden car but it has American roots and an American Foundation in terms of that business model and of course we look at what's been happening to the automotive industry in Australia over the last few years and really Holden is reflective of a manufacturing sector on the slide and you speak to experts in this country Dalton And they say that for Australian manufacturers to remain viable in all sorts of different areas their operations will have to be focused on products or high value or high tech goods where they can develop export markets and compete internationally so the days of those quite old fashioned large manufacturing plants such as carmakers in Australia are well and truly over we do understand that the last car rolled off the Holden production line in the last couple of hours so this is a fairly momentous day for Australian manufacturing and as we say a very sad day for the hundreds of Holden workers who will now be unemployed but of course the ripples of business the multiplier effect is economists call it Dalton is that those industries further downstream those industries those companies that supplied Holden with all sorts of car parts and caterers and textile businesses all of these industries will be affected by the closure of this part of this plant so it's not just about the Holden workers who will be affected but many of those others in those supply chains in other news really understand the Australian is taking his place on the United Nations Human Rights Council but it's not without its critics. No Australia elected alongside other countries such as Afghanistan Pakistan and cats now the un human rights council was set up a decade or so ago to promote and protect human rights and Australia's election on a 3 year term has caused quite a mixed response in this country the government will point to Australia's record of resettling more than 860000 refugees since the end of the 2nd World War Also the government says that it's closing down its detention centers where asylum seekers have been held also taking all children out of those detention centers on the other side of the ledger you have organizations such as Oxfam and Amnesty International raising questions about Australia's treatment of refugees in those offshore processing centers Australia has run in Papa New Guinea and the tiny island of Nauru also raising questions about Australia's treatment of its indigenous peoples Aboriginal Australians for example die on average about 10 years younger than everyone else so a mixed response as we say but the Australian Foreign Minister Julie Bishop talking about the position on the un Human Rights Council says that Australia deserves its position that we are principled in pragmatic voice when it comes to human rights and focus will be on a number of issues including the empowerment of women indigenous rights strong domestic human rights institutions and the like. Julie Bishop there Australia's Foreign Minister Australia has been elected alongside Spain it will sit alongside on the un human rights council Daulton countries such as Saudi Arabia the Philippines China and also the United Kingdom and Anna Brown who's from the Human Rights Law Center here in Australia believes this is a country that when it comes to human rights has much more work to do. Been affective choir the counseling promoting protections for people across but obviously there's other examples where a strategy needs to be standing up and it is taking up taking print position and not picking and choosing where it's going to stand up for human rights and mining. Known for mining among some of things but one of its biggest mining corporations is not being accused of work. Of frauds by u.s. Investigators this is a case brought against Rio Tinto its former chief executive and its finance boss they have been charged with frauds by American or Thora to allegedly because they attempted to cover up multi $1000000.00 losses on an African coal investment now these charges have been brought by the u.s. Securities and Exchange Commission it alleges accounting standards weren't followed and the mounting losses were hidden and at the heart of this story Dalton are some fairly alarming all startling statistics now Rio Tinto that's listed here in Australia and in London bought Mozambique coal assets in 2011 for $3700000000.00 u.s. Dollars So 2011 Rio bought interest in Mozambique for $3700000000.00 u.s. Dollars 3 years later they sold them for $50000000.00 u.s. Dollars So buying and selling at a very different rate and this concerns Tom Alba knees the former chief executive he's now left the company in the former chief financial officer Guy Elliott they deny all of these allegations and the company has said in a statement to the Australian share market that it would be vigorously defending itself it said that the case was unwarranted and would doubtless be rejected when the facts are considered but a huge corporate story here in Australia and very important as you say given the role that mining has played in Australia's recent economic prosperity just overdose talking to Donna Fraser 31 of our great is a limpin 7 taken in for a limb pigs who. Used talking about Australia 2000 and the Olympics then when she was last out on a medal place where what she does. Drives as a big. Whatever says you will but of course. With Cathy Freeman lying on the track after winning the gold medal in that $400.00 mates is just to say that Australia is such a great. Country so because something when the Commonwealth Games come so they go and they ready yes in April next year yes well and truly I think the Gold Coast has lent some very valuable lessons from Glasgow for example Sydney hosting the Olympic Games in Tuesday in 2006 years later the Commonwealth Games rolled into Melbourne so this is a country that's looking forward to another sporting jam and we now know that more than 3 and a Hof 1000 there is all holders will bring the Queen's bats on across Australia to the Commonwealth Games opening ceremony on the 4th of April so many many people involved in this the rich the famous and ordinary people will get to take part in a great sporting occasion here. In Sydney doesn't from. Listening if. You tomorrow from our. B.b.c. Radio much. To Friday.

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