Is taken for that also does tie into this point or are we dealing with the sentences in a proper wind given senses that are properly appropriate for the most violent crimes but as I say I would again stress the people as are the police or the prime minister said yesterday we should all continue to go about our lives today as we would on any other day and people can be secure about the fact that the police the moment I call them they are not looking for any other suspects there's been a lot of praise for members of the public who intervened to stop the attacker before he was shot dead by Specialist firearms officers former Tory Defense Minister Tobias Elwood was caught up in the Westminster attack in 2017 when he tried to save the life of a police officer he says people are going to stand idly by it's not everybody will want to step forward it will react in different ways it's not no good or you're right or wrong about this but to see this now happen to recognize that occasionally very tragically we have these attacks that British people individuals saying this isn't going to happen on my watch and I think we can be very proud of the reaction that happened in this tragedy Mike finity works in Borough Market and witnessed the attack he's just keen to get on as normal really determined to get to work really proud to work up our market I'm told is solid with our colleagues at the market people have been many of them working late into the night the traders I'm sure were a little bit shaken but you'd be surprised how calm people were in the heat of the moment and now they're open for business a number of election campaign events have been canceled today in response to the London Bridge attack with more his own political correspondent Tony Bronson you'll inevitably this is a huge impact on the election campaign events canceled by all the main parties the Conservatives out an event today planned in London that's cancelled labor was supposed to have an n.h.s. Some in Yorkshire that too has been cancelled in the Lib Dems actually an event not too far from London Bridge in East London that's been also cancelled today on to other news and rail fares for London's commuters are expected to rise by an average of 2.7 percent. In January this could mean the cost of an annual season ticket increasing by more than $100.00 pounds a year the rail industry argues that the money is needed to invest in the network Robert Nisbet is from the rail delivery group no one likes to pay more for their tickets we understand that but you've got to understand also where the money goes and by holding this just under inflation this is the 3rd year in a row that we've managed to do it what we're doing is ensuring that the day to day running costs are pretty much the day to day running costs of the railway are covered which allows millions of extra money to be put where it's really needed so new and refurbished trains and extra services and that's what people want the u.s. Tech giant Apple says it's reviewing how it handles disputed borders because of controversy about how it labeled Crimea Chris Buckley reports Moscow seized an annex Crimea from Ukraine more than 5 years ago but the European Union and the United States refused to recognize it as Russian territory for most of the world Apple's mobs don't specify where the Crimean peninsula belongs to but the company says it complied with new laws in Russia to short as within its borders for anyone looking up information inside the country led to a furious response from Ukraine and finally in cricket England finished a 2 of the 2nd and final Test against New Zealand on 39 for 2 still trailing the Kiwis by 336 runs in Hamilton Stuart Broad was the pick of the England bowlers with 4 wickets for $73.00 runs and he says the team is still confident of winning the Test match looking at New Zealand results here over a few years it's very rare that him when when it's awesome because the pitches don't hear it the next 3 days are going to be the best times down this bitch we need to make use that tomorrow and I believe we've got the best. Players in that changing to be able to do that and for someone to go and score $150.00 plus and set the game up for us on and whether now his sorrow Thornton It's a very chilly start this morning across London we've had temperatures down to freezing and below out. Towards the suburbs and also some mist low clouds and fog around a Met Office weather warning for that fog until 11 o'clock this morning it will slowly start to lift eventually a bit of brightness coming through but a cold day across London with a high later of just 8 degrees now we have b.b.c. Radio and travel his fill Dave. Thank you following yesterday's instant London Bridge remains closed as does monument underground station also there are numerous closures in place affecting all parts of the following roads to Lee Street St Hill Suffolk Street Montague close Barra High Street East cheap after street Bishopsgate King William the 5th Street Cannon Street and Grace Church St Elsewhere it's very slow on the m $25.00 top rise after junction 18 for Charlie wood it's due to an early of their fire and congestion is junction 17 from Maple cross queues are also built up anticlockwise and junctions $27.00 for the m 11 to junction $26.00 for Waltham Abbey it's a broken down vehicle would all lanes have reopened on the trains there's a reduced service on the North Western Railway affecting trains to and from used in just strike action London Underground is reporting the Central Line has no service green Hey Nelson Grange Hill with Meyer delays on the rest of the line there are park closes in place on the district and Hammersmith and City Lines and White Chapel station is currently closed filled a b.b.c. Radio one and travel next update in half an hour. Digital Radio 94.9 f.m. And on b.b.c. Sounds this is like the b.b.c. Radio Kerry and David Grant welcome to the Saturday Breakfast with us Kerry and say grog we've been asking me this morning when should the Christmas decorations go up when should they go up really early 2 weeks before or within 2 days of Christmas. Which is not any options you want where should the Christmas decorations go up and also have you ever experienced sibling rivalry and how far did it go and we've asked you to let us know by calling us on our way 207312000 calls a free or you can text 81 triple 3 start with the word London or you can tweet at b.b.c. Radio London or you can email we love it when you do any of them Kerry and David at b.b.c. Dot. E.-Mail carry in David x. B.b.c. Dot co dot u.k. Now mail and win over on Twitter says our tree goes up on the 1st day of December Yes New You are right he says My better half does family day care so the kids love it. This is about sibling rivalry Don't get me started on sibling rivalry as I'll be out all night shameful I probably won't ever see or talk to either of my brothers before our last breaths. Gaslight that this isn't some time and he says things in there too well there. You know what we didn't get to cover because of who's in our show this morning we are going over to Rob Oxley on a regular basis to find out the latest news from the London Bridge attacks that happened yesterday and so if you do want to call us about that and comment you are also welcome to do that but what we didn't get a chance to do we are going to Rob in about 10 minutes to have a tennis but what we didn't. The chance to do was talk about moments of the week I felt we could do that and I don't know I was wondering if you would like to do that now whether you do me the owners of telling me what was your moment of the week my moment of the week actually is fresh in my memory because my member of the week is less than 12 hours old it was last night I've had a very active week and absolutely Britain week and until last night my member of the week was going to be something else but we went for dinner last night and it was it was Jewish. But it was with Friday night dinner Friday night dinner with a Jewish family and friends and so there were there were 6 of us and it was about the Jewish Iranians and oh my goodness the food I have never seen a sad anything on Iranian food it's just amazing it was like whoa new taste experience yes so much sorrow that I started to think we're not inviting them for dinner because the chef we have to hire a chef if they're coming to dinner and it was incredible and not just the food that the company we thought we had conversations I felt it was just it's just brilliant it was a great night but one of the highlights I think for you which you probably won't image but I think he's I think it's really beautiful is the fact that you will. See that you popped into a local shop to get chocolates and flowers yes a sight to Friday night and so many people were saying to me you know muscle tof and. And and it was lovely I didn't actually I think I must just let. On that guy was Jewish it was some of them did some of them let me check out the label check out of the let you know the checkout was brilliant because I use a present songs of praise and she went oh you should now. Now give me no. I didn't give an explanation so she probably thinks I'm pretty secure I really love her bra. My neighbor. I do you what was your moment of the funny enough I'm going to follow your theme with families and dinners and community I was just filming at strand that we've done one program for the one show on one film for the one show on this before where I went to multi wilds and Kim waltz House dinner with the family and we took around the table about you know what was family like and so this time this is the 2nd one of these this little strand that we're doing and I absolutely loved it it was with Joe Brown Wow The singer and guitarist and legend absolutely legendary Jerry Brown's I mean my goodness he's done so much in his career because you know you think he's been there since our childhoods isn't a I mean when you before you go yeah absolutely but none before you were born I. Have to do. Is the sibling rivalries is bringing out the borderline. But and then having dinner with him and his families he's got 2 children from his 1st wife Vicky and. She unfortunately died but he's he's got these absolutely fantastic shoes and one of him is some brown the singer's some back yes yes stuck up. I met 1st back in the i.t. Somewhat of a novelty woman she's really lovely that just a really lovely family so I had family dinner with them so I saw is continuing in the thing ready David isn't it amazing when we gather together and I mean even though we might all be a bit over the dinner table there is something really lovely I just about gathering it doesn't it doesn't have to be blood family but whoever your people all just gathering together chewing the cards and yeah for me great food great conversations what could be got to us life itself absolutely yes. Inspiration is something that is Forgot how good those lyrics were Yeah great very fitting for yeah absolutely right so we've been hearing and speaking about earlier in the show the News of the terror attack that took place on London Bridge yesterday afternoon killing 2 people and wounding 3 others and on the line we have the rector from Peckham who was at London Bridge and was it saw the cathedral this morning and said it was surprisingly calm and. I'm not actually there now I was the last it was going on. And it was a really interesting what he was saying about. Lovelady is when people are gathered together and we had so many people are suddenly all gathered together who you Larry baby part of London just that and of course a lot of people come into the cathedral because they wanted to learn who they want to look and then we had Troy and turbans and also we've got this and it's really lovely Christmas market going on a 2 hour just up the cathedral but I was also so you're completely. Calm and extraordinary thing is that when something like that is happening you don't know you don't know what's going on 8 so different when you're caught up in it from how it is when you actually see it only needs. Because then it's on the news with those being shaped and it's made into a story you know this happened and then this happened but at the time you think well what is this is that a ball my appy could being held is that carriage got absolutely no idea and they police because they once were but they had no idea there as well so you know you told them because of course in that moment you'd imagine it would be so dramatic and panicky but actually people were surprisingly calm that's what does seem to be the reports coming back yes everyone was so cow and just really supportive towards each other but it's a lovely place to be anyway it's a very beautiful building and. There were quite a lot of guys helping to look after the Dean was that and told everyone exactly what was happening and say look will make your coffee is in a way we're like welcome guests I find I noticed today actually on my news feed they've got pictures of people running along and I was just thinking my goodness I would hate to have my photo all over the press when I was running in probably for those people that were running away you know then that people that we're never going to know their names or but they're people that will have been seriously impacted by this event and events going on around on the bridge yesterday and I think having a place where people could just sit together and have a cup of tea that good old English property cuppa tea and talk and share about how immediately that's so important in terms of dealing with trauma to be able to speak immediately about what's going on and how you feel. Absolutely and we're all in the same boat together so there's some kind of identity strength that you get from being with everyone else and as you say talking about it. Because not a lot of people are still traumatized by the events of 2 years ago. You know it seems day 2 years is a long time but but does something really a fag feel if you're just you know human qualities somehow and I think I think the trauma I think we sort of feel is a city don't weigh if you live in London or around lawns and will come into London for work you feel that you know we're living with this kind of constantly but for those people that are there on site and if you happen to be one of those even as a possible i obviously to call there's a critical place but just for those people like you're saying that we're just in the area like yourself even you know there's there is a traumatic experience that's happened to you yesterday and that that should never be overlooked really is. The wreckage is very touching the residue you feel that because that at times like this it's just an instinctive thing for people to come together to gather together. I think it is because you are completely dependent on other people makes you realise that you yourself are pretty vulnerable when it comes down to it and other people are vulnerable it's well you do have a strength when when you're together and also I think there is something special about London as before you know it people are nothing. Even in the most terrible situation you can find something and you can find something to make other people feel more cheerful and you can cope with what you did you stop thinking about yourself and you become part of the whole it's a very lovely thing it's nice I felt really proud to be a part of the human race and a part of a part of something and even though it was a terrible thing that was happening you felt that there is. You know there's so much going to really going to. Remember that is the year the rights of much for calling us this morning that is in lighting in every way thank you have a lovely weekend and if you've just joined us we're chatting about the news about the terror attack that took place in London and London Bridge yesterday off today killing 2 people and wounding 3 others b.b.c. Radio London's Oxley is near where the attack Good morning Rob. Moved to the north side of the bridge where the attack happened and that she now on the self side of the bridge very close and she well I'm sorry I just realized the so-called was talking there to where the attack in 2017 happened in front of me is at the ballot point Bank apart which is where the attack in 2017 happened and the police cordon still in place and to my side has said that could see Jule which is open as normal the Smalling that opened about 1015 minutes ago and that is open for paper environed to see if there's that many people inside but as I come down the steps here in supermarkets in place of his coming out now who are manning the cauldron the launch according to still in place here but in the market here people are opening up sensing and pulling the tables out of this stores getting ready and things getting the hot plates warmed up to start serving and starts the day so Things him on the market getting back to normal and the trade is getting ready to open up for the morning and we'll have those traders been telling you I mean physically some of them would have been made yesterday or was it just sucks to. Know that some of the changes would have been here yesterday one of the chairs I spoke to was heaven and we can hear from some of them who took time out says they were setting up to speak to us. So we're currently here say no. Often as usual so we are going to be busy again today is it is your Saturday we all saw it's usually busy but I'm not sure they'll be so Peiser busy today. I will say luckily everything is with still in place Luckily the market is open again but could have been worse so we hope to get some customers today this most important thing and hopefully not just get in they're not getting as scared away. I don't think many people are going to come today got a full fledged you know should be Ok for week old shoppers already left you don't know you could reach evacuee Egypt like you know so we. This result we had nothing to do this morning really it was just a deal. Well that and that gentleman there he was saying he had 7 and he actually was here last night and one of the things that he had to leave when he was evacuated by the police was his tail because he was evacuated so quickly so he was very worried about that and the place this morning to discover that the table was safe and sound but certainly the market here of a handful of customers now walking through and people are. Shopping all veggie but it is very competent is incredibly early this sunlight the bridge course will be a lot busier later on throughout the morning when is it you're in the city in the city which was incredibly busy yesterday all of those offices everyone who works there in the city sure in the wake not there on a Saturday Sunday the other side of the cordon where I was 1st thing this morning will be a lot quieter today and that is where the attack the attack actually happened in place for many chains continue to work that was just a cordon still in place robots into so much media studies updates will be coming back to you just a bit making the show and I guess really this is 2 things really just thinking about this is how one of the busiest Saturdays of the of these weeks leading up to Christmas I mean those trades how incredible that the guy still still there still here than there is you know you look at that and then you think of the things that Loretta who was in Suffolk the. Yesterday said about the resilience about the sense of community about the mutual support that people were showing one another it's just sometimes feels as if the worst events bring out the best best in London and yeah it's got to the coal. Yet the choro in the morning now we were asking you when she g. Put up decorations Kerry says as soon as possible any time off to July or when the clocks got back I think that it should be within reach of Christmas at least and well I think we all should be nice the 1st of December but because today is the only day when our family together is going to be the 30th of Ok so. Yeah this weekend Your 1st of November December go did I say November Oh. And the green she's leaving us 2nd you know don't get channeling him right let's 2nd we had ice I could have you know yes sibling rivalry to raise and how far did it go and we also you to coach was 180-731-2000 calls a free text at one triple 3 Stop with the word London tweet at b.b.c. Radio London or email Kerry and David at b.b.c. Don't don't u.k. So there's a couple of here and threats says This is Caroline Bailey says Michael's ice 14 and 19 put the decorations up Monday we've never put them up in November before but he's just fabulous. Howling and then she says. My children nor myself have experienced sibling rivalry we just respect one another I love and then Helen Shapter says straight after Halloween for some Wow that's when you should put your Christmas special right after Halloween of the 31st of October for some are no now no not so she says no she's a horrifies Yeah she's horrified at that thank you hell and she says I'm really going to put them up until after my husband's birthday in on the 11th still 2 weeks to go and then take them down 12 nights after of course 12th Night Shakespeare say don't take the mantle after the 12th night which is the 5th of January take them down on the 6th I'm with you let's go down on the 6th what you're up with the news here. Gary thank you this morning we hear the condition of the 3 people injured in yesterday's London Bridge attacks one remains critical but stable the other 2 are stable security services say the man who fatally stabbed 2 others was a convicted terrorist who was freed on parole last year 28 year old Esmond come was shot dead by armed officers he was sentenced in 2012 for an al Qaeda inspired plot to bomb the London Stock Exchange so election campaigning events have been cancelled as a mark of respect this weekend politicians have praised the response of the emergency services and the public who tried to stop the attack London's commuters will have to pay an extra 2.7 percent for their rail tickets from the 2nd of January next year will see their travel costs rise by more than $100.00 pounds a year and Chile's Football Federation is canceling the rest of the season because of concerns about security following 6 weeks of antigovernment protests at least 26 people have been killed and hundreds injured in the violence line and whether frosty with folk branches this morning some may linger throughout the morning feeling cold with a maximum temperature of some Celsius 45 Fahrenheit now with b.b.c. Radio one and travel his full Dave. Mike thank you. During yesterday's instant London Bridge remains closed as does monument underground station also there are numerous closures in place affecting all parts of the following roads to the street St Hill suburb St Montague close Bara High Street East cheap Arthur Street Bishopsgate King William the 5th Street Cannon Street and Grace Church St Elsewhere over the rains parkings the road is shot in both directions due to a collision that's affecting from Oxford ave to Hartfield road on the trains as a reduced service on London Northwestern Railway affecting trains to and from Euston to just drag action and London Underground is reporting that there are closures in place on the district and Hammersmith and City Lines and White Chapel station is currently closed field a b.b.c. Radio one and travel next update in half an hour. This afternoon. To. See including Live comic series of Chelsea against West says Crystal Palace top and against formats and moves us to Sheffield Wednesday on digital radio and t.v. From midday and around the grounds on Saturday salts from to a.b.c. Radio in London school starting with the London derby West Ham manager Manuel Pellegrini says his team need to dramatically improve against Chelsea this afternoon the Hammers are without a win in their last 7 Premier League games and Pellegrini says he is going to be a tough challenge. Just try to demonstrate at least that they are trying to. Prove results of that what we. What were you expecting from the from the what we must do improve our present 1st performance on the improve our performance and as you've heard Chelsea against West Ham is live with b.b.c. Radio one and sport on digital and on line from 3 pm Crystal Palace will look to end a run of 5 games by 2 in this afternoon when they visit Burnley Roy Hodgson's side have picked up just a point in a tough run of fixtures which were against 4 of the current top 5. Why the club now has a more favorable run the games but the manager insists that all opponents are difficult for the previous one who will resist them for to the opponents to be just a very good enough to prevent this from winning the windows of the greatest community they will go to but they were in with the belief we produce the best performances and we certainly will be the only way underestimating the pool to the police and again we'll have full commentary of Palace's trip to turf more on b.b.c. Radio London the kick off is 3 pm The draw for Euro 2020 takes place in Bucharest this afternoon England already know they're in group d. And have all 3 group games at Wembley they'll find out to their 3 opponents later on manager Gareth Southgate says his side will be treated as much more of a threat this time I think we've gained some respect and I think people would view us as a threat which certainly wasn't the case out of Russia and we also know that we've got to improve to another level it's hard to assess exactly where we are after this qualifying campaign but if we looked at World Cup semifinal Nations League semifinal we've done all we could in terms of qualifying with the most goals in Europe so we're on a good track Kingstone Ian from the 9th tier of English football are in the f.a. Cup 2nd round this afternoon as they welcome a.f.c. Filed of the National League and finally in cricket England lost 2 wickets late on day 2 to leave New Zealand on top in the 2nd Test in Hamilton the Black Caps posted 375 in their 1st innings while England who need to win to level the 2 match series reached 39 for 2 before close of play that you support will have more throughout the morning radio they'll tell you one from the movie star most want to say that from now until polling day on December 12th drive time during be comfortable through whatever issues the truth we are creating our politicians for results you have the chance to see how you want them to deal with issues which really matter to you that if it is. Time to look at the information that you need to hear from some remarkable Londoners with some amazing stories on the subject. The. Housing And yes well getting free stuff that's pretty close. To. Your cross. On December the 12th. Time with me weekdays. Doctor. Carrie and David Grant on b.b.c. Radio London Saturday Breakfast. We just played a little while before the break you got to be by deserting to about how much we love that record and we've got an e-mail from Deseret and it's her birthday today it is a very happy birthday and I just got to say to the listeners and I have I don't embarrass you by saying this one lovely lovely woman you are oh. That's right I think you may have done but she is such a nice kind. Yeah she usually talented singer songwriter producer this time so you go to be had its own sound absolutely it was that it's I need just it's like nothing else that was no one else is making that sound no times and I was just listening to the production on it thinking some musical you know such a musical song and she is yeah very very you know what Happy Birthday Happy Birthday and it's lovely to see you happy birthday to you Happy Birthday to this really happy day. A lovely and whether you've got a birthday or an event or a show that they should. All whatever the billboard is coming up later on in the next hour and we want to not think that I would say just for today. Just for I wish a somewhat a happy birthday oh you know if you want London and the and as we've discovered in the last few weeks people listening from as far away as China and North America you know yes stops in between Australia if you want the world to know about your event but specifically in London because obviously you want people to get to it then get ahold of if you can call us for free on our 807312000 you can text 81 triple 3 and start it with the word London you can tweet out to b.b.c. Radio London. Or you can email Karin David at b.b.c. Dot com And that is for our a billboard Now David just a few minutes ago you were talking about having Friday Night Dinner Yeah but our friends house and we have a lot of food yet we like a lot oh my goodness I have for the weekend we had a feast Yes we did so now is your chance to work off some of the calorie content. You can get off your chest right now yes I had to woman on a trolley. And this is the moment in the show your chance to have a little bit of a workout if you do not I don't really get a chance to do any fitness during the week because of life how is it for me. That's makes me somebody saw this is how is. The fitness but I did manage well this morning I'm going to manage 4 minutes and 22 of Janet Jackson I will daunce my way through this song and I will do a little bit of Mason anything you can grab a couple of cans of beans and some lifting this morning and this is driving you have to because she said You go into it like you know Jad you know that had not bad thing to do in the car and you can do you know pelvic floor you know is do that where if you are that's one for the ninety's. So if you do nothing else floor for the next 22 feet Janet Jackson there you go. And that can. Come up. At 8 o 3 to watch. Just . Oh but you know by Janet Jackson I was dancing up for school. And I'm not quite it was a heavy. As it was the main coach. Yeah but. I'm going to take the next 3 days were. The main. This time each week we invited experts. Tell us what's happening in and around London and there are always amazing things that are happening and joining us this week is Anthony Robbins who does walking across London and Sydney Welcome to the show Good morning how lovely to be here and thank you so much for the for the private dancing that you did you know I mean I think it was a tune about that once and I mean if. You want to have done it I don't apologise Yeah can I just say how unimpressed your production staff looked but I was. Always given as I am now known I forgot to produce it just took so many saying it. Every way so I think we need to you know I just did a bit of work out through that actually yeah yeah she's not doing so do you agree so next week will completely disappear I don't know nor do you know where Will's going will will will is going deep into mourning because Woods was told us we were speaking earlier about you know I've been calendars and about how if you when people have pet dogs the dogs become sort of better fed quite often the more pampered the know in fact if somebody said yesterday that I was it I love that I can remember what that was speaking about I think it was the football team and they were saying yes and the dog Yeah I love the dog a little more than the kids a little less in the football team and. And sometimes the dogs kind of sit but will was telling us not only does his dog. Have an advent calendar his mum's toe but but she has bought the dog poor 2nd which for those if you don't have dogs is a doggie beverage Yeah Prosecco for talks like this. Yeah just in case you think I mispronounced it you're saying it's a bit like that's really shocking for her when you are literally taking food out your kids' mouths and giving it to our dogs it's but that's entirely different anyway. My. Presence I'm still here just saying. Thank you you don't have a don't you and to me I love dogs but because of where we live we a dog isn't possible but I do love dogs and I do miss dogs and I grew up with dogs and they still very much part of the narrative of our family of our family life protecting our dog food who we remember years after he after he passed into the right doggy kennel in in the sky he never had it sounds a bit rough. As good now you have got 3 different museums on a museums that were yesterday I've been about a bit today so to give you a bit of contrast I've been to Windsor Castle to see the queen she was out when I popped in for. She was busy lady yes yes a bit of a spotlight on the royal family I mean moving swiftly on we'll talk about Windsor Castle I went to the Royal Academy and saw the fantastic Antony Gormley exhibition when he got a few days to see that so that's last chance to see that although I saw your picture on your Twitter feed of you there. When I got to make a structure I mean years you start with that and yet it is gigantic So Antony Gormley of course famous for his 20 ton angel of the North yes rather sort of Christ like figure based on his own body that welcomes you as you go to Gateshead already like I really like you too I really like it too he's based all of those figures on his own. Rather tall and athletic naked form not as you might say but I think it is quite about this last time did you see the fact that he's he's featured in all of his own all he has featured in all of his analysis I mean I guess that's just a way yes it's just the way in but. Lovely exhibition it closes on the 3rd of December really really worth going going is you know a few days left yeah you go and see. Somewhat what. Could you describe what we're looking at when we yet see this exhibition Gormley sees the body his body our body as a vessel it's the place that we all inhabit and what he explores in the exhibition is our bodies and the sort of spaces in between and when you 1st go in the 1st room that you go into is fairly sort of abstract shapes on the ground and then when you actually sort of look at them they look a bit like sort of digitized humans and it's like there's like a sort of a block of metal in a corner reminds me of when I was at school in Kings upon Thames in the seventy's I used to spend most of my time in the corner. Oh yes I was a naughty boy there's this figures lying down there's was one sort of a very abstract figure and you look at it for a while something reminds me of those frozen figures in Pompei you know those people sort of yellows and design so the 1st from very very abstract and then you move on to there's a there's a really huge piece that dominates the largest room in the Royal Road Academy and I can describe it best as being a underneath a sort of giant shopping trolley Yeah all the that's the Welsh or I might say that's a picture of a metal thing of calling in the name of it now but a metal thing and it the whole point is that you see you stand underneath it all sit underneath or in my case actually lie underneath it yes rise or work out what you're saying as of time and space is compressed and it's quite interesting sort of exploring your own relation to this this piece of work which is absolutely massive as I look at this piece that I'm seeing on that's another piece no it's not so the piece that the piece that you're showing me now is it looks like it was a hair. Raising Well what rights of y. Yeah apparently a kilometer imagine like an 8 kilometer. Coil of barbed wire but without the barbs Yes it's put into this room like a giant sort of hairball Yeah right and you have to negotiate your way around it around the outside so you're sort of pushing. It Out The Way and you have to touch it you know a lot Well interestingly yes you do touch it you are allowed and the whole point is that you know you're interacting with the art So while you the art that's another question you become part of your body becomes part of it and you're sort of negotiating around the outside although when me and my artist friend Laura went to the inside we were rather sort of hushed away and yes and even though there were pictures of people truly exploring it that's what we tried to do and then we were told off he says really industrial is very industrial and very real and very raw and I you know that's what the sort of the human body the naked body is it is just us and he's looking at our space in that environment Wow So how long is that exhibition on for only Intel 3rd of December January so you got what you said you go and I know I wouldn't normally talk about an exhibition it's just closing I only talk about ones that are just opening but I am really worth seeing that when we were there there was a fire alarm to go up and then we came back again and we missed as a massive construction which is actually a tunnel you go into a tunnel you explore the sort of cave like. A sort of cave like experience like going down a mine and that looks so good that I'm actually going to go back and see that either today or all tomorrow I really enjoyed it Antony Gormley at the Royal and I see now why were you visiting the queen. What's happening at Windsor Castle Well I am actually a blue badge guide which is an accredited guide a term that you have to study to years to become a blue badge guy becoming a taxi cab driver now it is becoming everything is not hard as being a taxi driver obviously but it's pretty it's pretty tough you do study for 2 years and at the end of it you get a blue badge which is my most expensive but least attractive piece of jewelry ever . I could about a vintage Rolex for that or a hair transplant that as you can see. I've got the blue badge guide and that in titles me and a relatively small cohort of people to be able to guide in Windsor Castle the houses. Parliament Westminster Abbey Tower of London that sort of thing without that badge you can't guard and if you don't know about that day they tend to sling you out so you do remember you have to say is that the B.B.C.'s you have a sort of Christmas Tree of sort of passes and badges around you so I do take visitors there and I've been taking quite a lot of American visitors there because they like to go see the queen of course so you really do you get into the state because you can walk in the grounds can't you when so yes you can walk in Windsor Great Park for no money at all and then how much do you get to see if the actual costs well quite a bit actually so it's owned by its own by historic roll palaces and they run the Tower of London as well. Windsor Castle is interesting because of course it's the Queen's main home and her and her official residence are cared for by start real palaces 21 pounds to going to quite expensive to go in but you do get to see obviously you don't wander through the Queen's breakfast room but you do get to see the ceremony long quit I need to know I want to I want to say oh well you know do you get what you know what she's having really well you know you do get to see quite a bit you get to see the state and semi State Apartments which is where her majesty welcomes in guests has private audiences large banquets that sort of thing so you get to see these these. This part of Windsor Castle where you know there was a terrible fire there in 1902 has been restored absolutely beautifully using you know medieval techniques but with more modern craftsman and cross women so you get to see that the the semi state departments the state departments date from the time of Charles to 2nd he wanted to respect sure the market was well properly restored officer after after they cut his dad's head off I'm 1649 and perhaps the sort of star traction is the St George's Chapel which used this gorgeous 15th century chapel or a really great example of the perpendicular gothic if you don't know what that is just think Harry Potter Yes and you've got it but the reason I want to talk about it today was that they have opened up the in a hole which was used as a storeroom would you believe. It was opened by George the 4th Queen Vic closed it down in 1966 and it's been used as a store room and they've now opened it up and has a beautiful view of the long mile which is this incredible you know that so yeah the long walk I should say that the back is no longer on goes on and on the long walk and The Long Walk is 2 and a half miles long and you have this fantastic view out the window. And so it's a new visitor route takes you there you can see that and you can also see the most incredible impacts most bizarre thing I've ever seen actually which is the Queen Mary doll's house what's that Queen Mary was the consul of George the 5th and apparently she loved the bling she was going to and she was a very respected old queen she died just months I think 10 weeks actually before the coronation in 1953 that's right there's a famous picture of the 3 Queens isn't there a famous which is going she looks rather misshapen latrine mother and clearly has been the 2nd at the funeral of her father George the 6 exactly right she was found it is if I remember Miss Havisham like and she. People knew her love of things and so they commissioned this incredible doll's house it was built by Lachance a famous architect has. Said When I said when that she's absolutely right built a lot of modern day in the year. And it's a little slice of royal historic life so you got this this huge Doll's House has running water no way I didn't believe this has I mean can you imagine that in concert value I'm not imagining how big the thing must be it's huge it's big it's bigger than this studio that we're in wow a doll's house has running water hands has a lift that works as electric lighting minibar Yes yes. Many bottles of champagne with champagne in it has shotguns that you can break the breach put a little bullet in and fire apparently not. So how did she have this made for her children one of her friends a Princess Mary Louise had it made for her and all the great craftsmen and women at the time were very very keen to you know whether it was the Chippendale company whether it's lush and some self Gert you Dickel and all the also save the day they have created a library of these little books and they're actually little books with little stories Sherlock Holmes wrote an actual Sherlock Holmes Conan Doyle. Sherlock Holmes was the man who never lived 11 of my fellow ter guys out there I do know that Conan Doyle Arthur Conan Doyle wrote a special Sherlock Holmes story just for this now we've got a couple of minutes to cover the last item this morning which I was very interested in which is the genius Museum Museum the Jewish Museum is an absolutely wonderful museum in Camden Town is the only museum devoted to an ethnic minority community which is bizarre when you think how diverse our London town is yeah and this is showing a wonderful exhibition at the moment is the work of Charlotte or Solomon and it's called life or theatre a play with music shall not I was a 26 year old German Jewish woman she died tragically in Auschwitz but I don't want her tragic story to sort of overshadow this incredible art Yeah because these this is a collection of $200.00 digital is they're called which is shoe ash it's a kind of opaque watercolor. So it's a very sort of vivid watercolor and what she has created is longer canvas on campus on paper actually I think just regular paper and what she's created is a little storyboard you can see $200.00 of these images it's a much bigger collection it's in Amsterdam. Normally and it tells the story of her family life it explores family life it explores the young woman growing up exploring us sexuality and amongst other things. But all all against the backdrop of the rise of fascism the rise of Naziism what she particularly explores is mental health and mental illness the mental illness of our own family because Charlotte as a mother and her grandmother took their own lives and she was determined not to do that so she found her voice through art and this art is absolutely incredible this series of of little paintings little Q ashes and as a says she did have a very tragic end but this work is the triumph over tragedy. And what makes it so modern so contemporary survive it our own generation is it's you know it's a young woman talking about issues of mental health and this is just so current Yeah absolutely and so when and where is that on that is the Jewish Museum and Camden Town very a stone's throw from Camden station it's on until the 1st of March 20 twentieth's 8 pounds to see it at the Jewish Museum great museum to go because it's a big big welcome there all sorts of. Events and conversations around mental health around finding your own finding your own voice finding a creative voice at the Jewish Museum they do things really well there and I do are you to go if you've never been to go to the Jewish Museum encountered antonym of insight I'm sorry is not the situation you see in the Royal Academy and Windsor Castle. Goes into care instead of grabbing the Saturday Breakfast Show and coming Radio. London's News of 9 on my dear and questions this morning about jail terms for people convicted of terror offenses as it's revealed the man behind yesterday's London Bridge attack was a convicted terrorist released on license less than 7 years into a 16 year sentence 28 year old as mankind who was shot dead by firearms officers was jailed in 2012 for an al Qaeda inspired plot to bomb the London Stock Exchange onions mess of a car and says recent changes to the Lord to blame I was unhappy and I opposed the decision from the government to get rid of a sentence the judges had which is called an i.p.p. An indeterminate sentence for the public's protection what this meant but somebody who was convicted of a serious offense like this terrorist offense couldn't be released until the prisoner had persuaded the probation service that he was a lower danger the public while the government got rid of Chris Phillips is the former head of national counter-terrorism he says there are many convicted terrorists who've been allowed back into society I think it's incredible that if you listen to the sentencing of the judge that heard the trial he didn't think this person really should ever be released again and yet on appeal he was given that sentence was changed which allowed him to be released back into society and once released security services say as Macallan showed no sign that he was planning the attack as our security correspondent Gordon Corera explains he was we understand tagged and subject to certain restrictions now sources I've spoken to say he complied with those restrictions it also seems he may well have informed the authorities the d.z. He was attending this particular seminar which was a fish. Congress Hall which related to former offenders and those working with them so no sign of advance warning or intelligence about what he was going to do it appears this morning we hear the condition of the 3 people injured in the attacks one remains critical but stable the other 2 are stable and there's been a lot of praise for members of the public who intervened to stop the attacker before he was shot dead by Specialist firearms officers these workers and Borough Market have told b.b.c. Radio London they're just getting on with it usually busy but I'm not sure they'll be self I suppose he will say luckily everything is still in place Luckily the market is open again could have been worse so we hope to get some customers of the know fully in order to not getting as scared away all the shoppers already lived here all my 3 to 53 feet really you know so this was all we had nothing to do this morning really it was just a reopening on to no other another no other more news now rail fares for London's commuters are expected to rise by an average of 2.7 percent in January this could mean the cost of an annual season ticket increasing by more than $100.00 pounds a year the rail industry argues the money is needed to invest in the network Robyn is bitties from the rail delivery group no one likes to pay more for their tickets we understand that but you've got to understand also where the money goes and by holding this just under inflation this is the 3rd year in a row that we've managed to do it what we're doing is ensuring that the day to day running costs are pretty much the day to day running costs actions up Ok over on Twitter Jack says the decorations go up tomorrow in our houses the 1st of December and then she says sibling rivalry I lost my sister to cancer when she was 17 I was 16 we were close but so very different we were envious of each other's appearance but laughed when we finally talked about it and thank you so much thank you for tweeting something so personal attacks I think also. Just that thing of this is why I really cannot wait to talk to Nicholas because it's that thing of just not it's like it's an unspoken shame almost like even talking about it is awkward Yes so she's very like yeah you can say yes I did have civilian I really said Right yeah Ok and then Ruth says when you should put your Christmas decorate.