Will appear at all is a worth Crown Court on a date to be set for sentencing there's been a 10 percent rise in hate crimes recorded by police in England and Wales new figures from the Home Office show there were more than 103000 offenses in 201819 race hate crimes accounted for around 3 quarters of fences and transgender hate crime went up 37 percent Robbie desensitize from the. Stonewall said the toxic environment had been created which allowed hate crimes to flourish I mean sadly it's not surprising for as as shocking as it is we have seen these numbers going up over the last few years and particularly to see the l g b t hate crimes in particular trans hate crimes going up going up that's something that we've been seeing through our work across the country Royal Mail is facing its 1st national postal strike in a decade 97 percent of union members who voted back the action it's in a dispute over terms and conditions and job security now with deceiving sports headlines his Emma Saunders mayor will have confirmed the club are interviewing 3 cans it is for the manager's job following Neil how is his departure Gary things worth Adam Baratz and Gary or speaking with the club as part of far into the process an appointment is not expected until next week at the earliest it is preparations for their quarter final against Australia at the Rugby World Cup have been given a significant boost with their knees assassins number a believe any poll is now very likely to be fit to start Middlesex have announced the departure of all rounder George Scotty's declined a new contract and move to get a share instead I somehow would wonder whether he's sorry Thornton Well today has been a welcome rest spite to all the rain we've seen across London predominantly dry through the day with some sunshine too that's how we start tonight dry and initially clear but then we'll see an increasing cloud into tomorrow morning cloud thickening from the southwest and that brings us our next belt of wet weather so it's rain for the morning commute some heavy burst. 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How are you hearing in the news the head of the ball game and Football Union has resigned anybody see that much by the way anything be said about that game in a way the head of the ball given for union has resigned in the wake of the racist abuse apparently directed at black England players during the year of color foreign Safina last night at a reported 2 raided the union's offices in the city at Vanessa she does a brick for sure you know she spoke at Waller and ball game and sports journalists you're Eastland she have on her. And he told her it was an over reaction everybody heard a chance it was disappointing marketeer it clear is the times but luckily for me you know doesn't affect me too much I mean I feel more sorry for the people who feel I have to have an opinion and make those comments but proud of how we responded to it and that we took the appropriate steps and ultimately came through a game that that was not the No that was no no that was not Yuri it wasn't Ok it was somebody else. Look come on let's cut to the chase did you see the you see the match if you had the reaction was listening to Vanessa's this morning literally biting the wireless that's good radio isn't it when you have a reaction to the radio you have a slightly different Vista might have a slightly different perspective I certainly feel that lots of people have show incredibly comfortable talking about the bug airings as though they were racists as a we don't have any problems with it here you may well have a view on whether they should have stayed or gone or what the reaction all over reaction has been 107312000 text 81 trip or 3 Make sure you start your message with the word learn every got the fellow speaking to Vanessa Yes I think we did. Yeah we'll come back to it honestly we will be extinction rebelling because again blamed for everything in the mini and not one of the any different blame them you might have noticed at the group who were protesting in London and day here at the b.b.c. On Friday Goodness Gracious Me never seen it so crowded out there in the rain as were there in protesting for just over a week cooling on the government to do more about climate change well the group of now been banned in a statement issued by the Met Police last night any protesters caught in the capital after 2100 hours could be arrested the total number of arrests by the way in case you're interested from said protest of now going to have a 1400 However the threat of arrest is not powerful enough for some protesters who last night glued themselves to the ground in Trafalgar Square. For extinction rebellion is that the right for you if you want to fish or try to lead don't mean to downplay you or anything what is your position. I'm actually an art school tonight Ok in terms of what happened fair right just an appropriate reaction from the police do you think. No not soul and the there will be a case going to the High Court again the blanket ban which will be seen as an emergency sort of dressing in light of the fact that it. Indiscriminately preventing people from the right to protest so we expect to hear something more about. The safe thing or treat tomorrow morning you talk about your rights of purchase what about the rights of other Londoners to go about their business. Well when you have a universal right to life don't worry we'll have a universal right to family life and. More extinct medallion are saying is that we. You know very well. And quite well into today at this moment in time and not anything like an appropriate response has been made by the government to run I know what I know is a given protesting for the last 8 or 9 days on just asking you whether the rights of people to go to hospital appointments the rights of people to care for costings job applications. Whether they have any kind of balance alongside your rights that you have. Made your point now people need to go about their business today. Well that's what people always say isn't it if you've made your point there has been no action you know the government last time we came out on the street tonight pro shortly afterwards state unanimously vote is actually an emergency at the global climate she emerges they have a national emergency it's a threat to our national security. And so that's why we take this very seriously that's why you find people who are willing to sacrifice their liberty in order to try and get change and just saying that people have been heard isn't the same to actually doing something to change our trajectory which is headed for a total catastrophe. But that's the point really at what point do you feel that you were right to make a protest and when does that protest become something more prone assures I suppose you've got to that point so far as the police are concerned. Well there's been an absolutely perfect day really to nonviolent principles for I. Think sure been in ever since we launched in April I remember the police making a statement in fact to say nothing so many conflicts to the west in the capital with 0 harm to any officers. In contrast the police have been suppressing the rights of disabled people by coaxing on them in particular me using a quit taking things away resources that would help them to be present on the street so. No I think I think we are you know a peaceful nonviolent movement but it's very serious about preventing this sort of all out catastrophic collapse where do you ever do you appreciate the pressure that you put to him for this. Yes we. Saw we Lord Jesus Christ the day catchy went on national television to say that the police had a priority to focus on. To focus on the island to focus on like think like the risk to the public and I would argue that has been consistently positively like policy from extinction rebellion to allow an urgent service to stray we've cooperated to a place where very clear with them. On top of a plane before this you know I had a really disturbing conversation on Friday and I just want to get your reaction to it Ok because I was going to say actually now you've made up or think I have to. Maybe 2 miles away 3 months away from where there was a protest in relation to getting on airplanes and the like. Maybe the biggest program problem in London another result of the gang violence knife crime in London and the conversation was about police resources being stretched we know the 43 other forces of. We know they have been drawn from all over London I'm just interested in whether or not you understand the great cause maybe there may be a residual impact. But we understand that there is an impact because the design of this is to cause disruption to you know the ongoing lives of people in order to draw attention to this to the city but I've been in touch with people who campaign on knife crime in particular crime and they find the correlation between the increase in actually to do with austerity it's often to do with poverty but it's. Deployed to where they think things may happen doesn't it well yes but I just said that there's no correlation between increased levels of stop and search and a decrease in violent crime. Ok what's in them because you on the street it's now effectively. We've already had 1400 arrests if memory serves me right. Arrested were arrested just last week what now. Well at this it appears to me that people are carrying on with the protests to the people who feel that they want to and I know that people are you know Milbank today. In the road being obstructive and people there is a group of grandparents currently outside Buckingham Palace so that the ban hasn't . Hasn't made everybody. Run away and say at home lots of people have continued the program that they were originally that did to and and I anticipate that she later the court will find a law for her blanket a group or form good because. That includes everybody is a member. Every parent grandparent every child is a member it's the same bearing a badge people have been told if you're wearing a badge you could be arrested now you don't have to think about white back into history about people getting arrested for wearing. Pace. So. Much I'm thank you we will talk again that's clear from extinction rebel What's your reaction away 17312060 minutes past 5 o'clock this find out what's happening on 100. Travel he's the latest and take a look out the right in Westminster Parliament Square has been 3 feet long just looking at my camera now it looks that they couldn't have just been removed so passes. Through their way through Parliament Square bit to expect Millbank remains both way . Gratian had quite a few routes on diversion clean routes 387 and 88 now take a look elsewhere in Canning Town the a 13 Eastbound is very slow approaching 40 i.q. Lane in those words with congestion back into the East India Dock tunnel and to the west section the a 4 is looking very slow around the town from around the Hogarth roundabout known as the g.t. Hammersmith Bridge closure to update us on our 873100000 troops to tweet at b.b.c. 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Radio and one I'm sitting as the taking calls texts and emails on a variety of subjects on the agenda and then they want to talk about dads fascinating actually lead from Elton John about wanting your dad to feel proud of you not just interested in if that's a driver for other people for me you know having your parents say they're proud of you did they say how did it impact on you did you ways work to impress them and if you hadn't What did it mean and maybe that's happened with your own children or 807312000. Just to to clear from extinction rebellion the reason is that the police seems to I suppose change the game in a way that they have been over 1400 a race and now they're saying that you know if you were out on the streets often more in a quark and you were a supporter then you could be arrested what do you think playing hardball about time terrible these people are trying to save our planet a little bit of inconvenience for goodness sake there's no finding there's no burning anything it's a no no violence that too so so leave them alone what are your thoughts 107312000 needles given the school from North would a good 18 you allow it the right of spoken to many times before you're probably recognize my voice right this extension rebellion. Point 13 or 4 point point one size might want we all know it's been in the newspapers except for a 3rd trying to save the planet trying Ok that's that's fine not no problem with that whatsoever millions of people agree with that but. It On this 2nd week millions of people who listen to the show right probably agree with my They're just getting into why now my step point and I had a very important meeting just the other day I can't say too much as some of the. Stuff like a certain. Things which make somebody as a sad can't say too much because it's under the. Just don't say that you can't say they just get on with going to another car can't say I can't say some of the Official Secrets Act. The Official Secrets Act So you can't say anything. About that but what tense I thought I was just guessing in the wife and I saw lots of other people who are trying to tell about their normal business in a normal wise right just as we all do we just cover our normal business are no like . Just getting in the way or no make their point carry on Narration What point of they might. Sure in what point if they meet Well I think most the point that climate change is happening and they all come to try and stop climate change we don't know this but in Reno is that the point I've made well the point I think might let me try a different one point and. That if we don't do anything and do it very quickly we're all going to die and the generations that follow us are going to suffer because temperatures will change sea levels will change we need to do something now we're going to Delhi and points being made I think from their perspective might be that governments actually act now if you say we will have seen you that there would be flags and you think boats that's not really recognising the point that they're making is it I mean is it a general member got it room recognising the point that they're making is we're going to die let's do something about it I think Neal I'm going to let you get back to that official secrets thing he will. Tell us what he's thinking he could. Away 100. 1000 text 803 and start your message with the word London now Daddy. Moments passed away 29th of March of 2004 but this story and talking to the team about this would be tell me I'm over softly and shut up and tell you can't speak to me and I'm telling apparently How important is it to you to get your father's approval and what we're going to move this on to parents in a minute but let's start with where it starts shall we almost because musician really knows. I think you need to call him by his full title so join the rocket man my boy asked me about the rocket and I said I don't think you're old enough for that and it had knitted his father's approval is all he ever wanted writing in the in his new autobiography at a school me by the way Elton admits to expand his whole career trying to show his father what he was made of at the store was no resentment describing his father as a product of his time up tight emotionally stunted and trapped in an unhappy marriage. How many how many pretty amany people get caught up in that maybe there is generational there anyway what's your experience in the view that come on be honest with me now did you kind of do things to please your dad did you want his approval was he a round did he come in give you money to give you a minded of the. Fences a series of books boy Ogust Wilson chronicle in the African-American experience through the decades and you've got 2 brilliant actors actually but let's go with Denzel Washington saying to his son you know I don't have to tell you what lovey I feed you a protective. Roof over your head why would you want. I need to tell you the I Love You So how important is it for for that to say he loves you what was your relationship with your dad like and did you seek your father's approval. Again I have to get vulnerable on this one at are you going to have to tell the truth is joining me now though is j. Crew food writer broadcaster and father of 5 Goodness Gracious Me What's the matter why would anybody have 5 children a day at number you must be costing your fortune I don't telegraph and if I have readers. Get this big the 2nd one to let Before we go into your relationship with the Ok because I realize that a little while ago that my relationship with my father has absolutely been the driving force in love relationship with my children what was yours with your deadly . Well I think we're all high hardwired really aren't we to to try and get our dance affection and dance appreciation and you know just from the 1st time you go into the playground when you're on the swings or whatever it's look at me dad you know see what I can do or if you 1st time you kick a football or whatever you know my dad run his own business so it didn't always come to see me you know when I was playing sports for the school if I was playing rugby or football or whatever as I did you know I was always a little bit disappointed if he didn't turn up but I kind of understood because he was you know he was working and that's fair enough when he did turn up of course it was a big thrill and I guarantee that any boy that's going to start on the touchline is going to try it out a little harder but you know I think I think it's the generation gap that we used to talk about a lot in the sixty's you know because we all wanted to do what our fathers had done before so if you were a minor son you wanted to be on my nerves you're a doctor son you became a doctor politician son you became a pro you know and so went on but everything changed in the late fifty's early sixty's with rock n roll and with the Beatles and. Aunts and we all started growing our ear and wearing different clothes and wanting to drop out and do something different so many of us probably felt that we were you know heading for a bit of a disappointment you know in terms of the way that our father's voice but you know I can understand what Elton saying and what he's talking about because our generation of a little bit younger than Elton but but both my parents were involved during the war in the service my mother was in the area and my dad was in the in the army and so you know his mother had died when he was about 9 or 10 years old and he was packed off to boarding school because he's father ran a hotel and had no time to look after him and so. My father was sent off to boarding school and when the war broke out in 1939 the m. O. D. Requisition the hotel took it over and pilots and army officers in the hotel and they didn't get the keys back until 1946 my dad was still in the Army at that point so when he did come home the tele been sold so there was no home to come home to and so his father and and my grandfather and my father had I believe a bit of a strained relationship but there was my oh my what was you're with what was yours like it is well you know in our I was thinking about Sally already and I said you know my father is 93 now and sadly he has dementia so from enough and only time ever told me love me straight to my face was after he got dementia. How deep is that she said Look So look we've got to minutes and we go trouble I know full on way how was what he did or didn't do impacted on what you do when you choose. Very different actually because I was determined that it was going to be different and so so I said I misses something for dads or maybe. Listening at the moment as their sons particularly are reaching though down to adolescent years you know once they get to 131415 and we all remember what that was like Eddie you know when you're you start dropping rather than conversing and you go through the school you know physical change in your body and becomes a bit you know difficult with your parents and I was determined to avoid that because between myself and my father so when each of my sons turned 14 our to the law from our holiday just the 2 of us so that we would just have this $1.00 to $1.00 time and it worked each other militants you tell of them have I tell them I love them every time I speak do you know when did your father only when he had dementia tell you that he loved Yeah that's the only to hear. What because you know clearly you and I could sit like 2 minutes rocking chair and talk for a long time but we got thrown in straight line and proved that I know that I want to bring. The bread I want to bread but the real question is that the nub of this story is did you think of the his approval. Yes of course because everyone does Don't think don't we all didn't you with your dad and you know you know did you ever get in would a fraction think I was or was you know very tactile with my children you know we talk them all the time I still do every time I see them every time I leave them I give them a big hug and tell them I love the matter speak to him on the phone and tell him I love him so you know I've tried to break that mold that you know I don't blame my heart that you know I don't know exactly what my father went through during the war years yeah yeah I think I mean on exactly you and. Get in trouble properly why is he any different from others. I don't know I think the curse a certain your moms knew your lot more knew your dad's family disagree on some way to leave their roof with rotten fruit the father of the ever seek your dad's approved Did you ever get any sad isn't it a little more that ever said I love you is when he was going started to mention diagnose her dementia never said I love him and never said it once not me cold true generational I'd love to hear your stories Elly 107312531 let's get the headlines. On those headlines on we'll Schindler in the last hour bold Garia have been charged by you a for with racist behavior throwing objects and disrupting the national anthem it's off the black England players were subjected to racist abuse by Bulger areas fans last night the head of the ball Gary and Football Association Bara Slawomir high loft has also resigned and there's more with Emery in the sport shortly Scotland's 1st Minister and s.n.p. Leader says another independence referendum us to happen in 2020 Nicholas Sturgeon has been speaking at the party's conference in Aberdeen the Met Police say there will be stepping up resources across the London Underground network this week in response to plans by extinction rebellion to target the tube on Thursday the Met of warned of the serious dangers of attempting to bring trains to a halt either above or below ground and Royal Mail is facing its 1st national postal strike in a decade 97 percent of union members who voted back the action it's in a dispute over terms and conditions and job security letters whether this evening it will be dry with clearing skies overnight cloud will then thicken with outbreaks of rain Tony heavy early tomorrow morning a minimum temperature of 8 degrees Celsius that is $46.00 degrees Fahrenheit now with the b.b.c. Radio London travel is Fiona MacKinnon. Again he b.b.c. Radio London travel he's the latest c.m. 25. Anticlockwise carriageways restricted again between junctions $25.24 the Enfield import has been to changes a vehicle has overturned do expect delays in the same areas a previous accident and there are severe delays the m 25 anticlockwise from junction 911 head 3 to 7 the m 23 turn off to a previous collation further in Westminster Millbank remains blocked both ways between Lambeth Bridge invokes a bridge because of extinction demonstration with buses on diversion to do expect delays and further Millbank remains close by Parliament Square that's a barrier removals but Parliament Square was briefly plonked it's back open again I can see on my camera now east Canning Town there's always the 13 eastbound from the East India doctrinal to 48 lane and south to Mordor and traffic queues on the a 24 northbound from the 807 to colleagues would station then you can update some I wait 173100000 or tweet us at b.b.c. Travel at the underground there's no central line service between city and severe delays the rest of it Fiona McKinnon b.b.c. Radio London makes up to 15 minutes. Past the London School Good evening I'm Emma so on this week tonight's London school. Have charged Belgariad and England over the events of last night in stuffier bug area have been charged with racist behavior with specific reference to Nazi salutes that's a breach of offical 14 of the USA for disciplinary regulations are the charges include throwing of objects disruption of the national anthem and the use of replays on a big screen which infringes safety and security regulations any meanwhile have also been charged with disrupting the national anthem and having insufficient numbers of travelling stewards the case will be dealt with by the USA for control ethics and disciplinary body the date of the meeting is yet to be confirmed elsewhere the process to replace. Neil Harris as manager of Millwall is underway 3 candidates are being interviewed this week with a decision expected next week at the b.b.c. Radio London that Godwin has details the shortlist has been whittled down to 3 people who are being interviewed this week there's the current caretaker boss Adam Baratz who oversaw that memorable win over Leeds just a week ago the Wickham manager Gareth Aynesworth on the form a stoke and Birmingham boss Gary right now no decision is expected until at least next week with Barrett definitely taking charge of Saturday's match against Brantford now the situation may be 3rd the complicated by the collapse of Henrik Lawson's proposed appointment as Southend boss Barrett is now one of the contenders to take over at Roots hole Robert Snodgrass has called time on his international career the 32 year old West Ham winger withdrew from the Scotland squad for their match on Sunday against San Marino he says he wants to make way for younger players to come 3 at the Rugby World Cup England's preparations for the quarter final against Australia have been given a significant piece with the news that believe in it is now very likely to be fit to start the Saracens number 8 injured his ankle against Argentina 10 days ago but is said to be doing well in his recovery and in defense coach John Mitchell says the signs so far have been encouraging he got through restricted training activity again today ran with the pull of sieges to restring and boxing also sprinting on the on the water park he wasn't smiling after what bike you know he's in good humor and also just been doing a few little skills so he's progressing nicely we still believe that he'll be likely a middle 6 have announced the departure of all rounder George Scott's he's declined a new contract and moved to Gloucestershire instead. Emma Yes collectors will see how largely this Bulgarian thing is playing out because it looks like a story that's going to continue giving certainly well I know you're talking about in drive time on you across all scales people having their say on this you would have heard with Will in the news headlines the way for president has released a statement the matter was also debated by M.P.'s in Parliament today Harry Kane the England captain had his say and pretty strong words from him he was saying you know these aren't just my team a season my friends that are getting abused and he did reiterate off the game the decision was made as a team at half time to carry on despite the game having been stopped twice in the 1st half from around the half hour mark and just before the break and he I just think the other side of this as well is we should be talking about the fact England won very comfortably it was 6 nail it was a comprehensive victory and a face response to all the criticism that they had received purely of footballing grounds and after that Czech Republic defeat their 1st defeat in qualifying in 10 years at the weekend the top of the group now head over the next international break is such a shame that unfortunately racism is his main topic here off the back of this victory Absolutely thanks very much Emma. On Digital Radio $94.00 f.m. And b.b.c. Sounds this is longer this is b.b.c. Radio London Eddie Nestor's drive charge. I guess more people are talking about it now than I actually even saw saw the game so I mean have you heard about it have you heard about the Boeing the salutes that show aunts and should they have walked off should they have stayed on what difference would it have made as a say. You know. I'm looking at this here and there's a 10 percent rise in hate crimes recorded by police in England and Wales have a record at 10370379 offenses way know that's on the basis of all sorts of things we really do you think it's a completely different thing we really in a position to be given bogey or as tough a time as they're getting and it starts a whole lip service thing worries it because if they wanted to stop it they could stop it couldn't they I don't know how how does this story speak to you have listened to a lot of people today and I've read a lot of stuff and people seem incredibly outraged and I got to tell you it's fitting Leary's to me but I'd love to get your view. At the right stone it wasn't right Sterling the guy who suffered racist beast in this country was and was not right was it somebody else was a right him the guy that people were saying he's a flash and so because he is moma house while the other fella that played in his team they were saying all these neat clean and compassionate. Some comfortable racism but people feel really comfortable looking of the people maybe we need to look if we're going to rule happily have the conversation you know we're going to rock n roll with this and not have the difficult conversations because you know it is a good one isn't it did you see if you heard it what did you make of it given people have been telling me for the last 45 years about some of the trouble person Eddie of yes. Said about Gambia you will love the Ed another way so. You've been to like. 731-2000 text 8 wonderful 3 installs your message with the word learn and job how are you. A more extinction rebellion I mean you heard Neil I think it was the guy who couldn't tell us what he was doing because of the Official Secrets Act and he was and they've made their point when I said what the point was and I was a little confused what are your thoughts on it. It was interesting what you said that the point is you know if we don't stop you know what we're doing that we're going to die from it and that's why I think that's why I think their point is Joel I don't know but you you tell me if I'm wrong or tell me what you think their point well I think I think it's personally it's an inevitability at this point when you think about things like. We have to transpose across the world you know. Trying to ship so we can power those modes of transport by electricity so we're still going to be using carbon to use even even you know when when we saw a switch or you could say you know quite a power or wind power electricity and they're full. And therefore Well my my contention is that we need to start really discussing the idea of nuclear fusion it's you know 15 years away from fruition essentially which actually is probably an underestimation is probably going to be more like a little funny needless usually is the. Nature of fusion is the power. Source is the power for the sun so it's when a couple of hydrogen atoms. Knock together and then release an existential amount of energy. It's it's completely safe and so how safe is yes. It states is pretty much the opposite of nuclear fission which is the nuclear power that we have at the moment there's no you know stock side components there's no there's no. You know nuclear waste that comes out is literally using water. From the ocean to convert into another type of water and releasing a lot of electrical energy. To that but we do have to stay with extension rebelling because that's the story today and the fact the police appear to be playing hardball with them restricting their right to protest they would say as I understand it is going to be a did issue review for their protest do you welcome what they're doing do you welcome all of the police and what's your position by a welcome in Siri what they are doing and in practice when it gets in the way of people's day to day saying it's fake that's taking it far you know we don't know how do you make the point that nothing like a little bit pregnant how do you make the point the whole statement is a pack horse is watching conveniences possible to highlight what they think is a frustration and an imminent danger in order to ultimately save the planet you know I personally think they stay made the point you know this this this has been enough noise like he said there has been no violence there has been escalated. So help me with this John and. Unless the prime minister ministers around the world determine that there will be a different direction how can they have made enough noise from their point of view . From 3 governments from extinction rebellions point if they've just gone always it nice what they're doing oh oh lovely to see all these people are and then they do sweet nothing do nothing then they haven't made their point of the part I think . Needs to be a middle ground because obviously the government right let's let's keep everything going. Down the middle ground is right let's find some some common that we can agree on and I personally think that is nuclear fusion you know the government. Thank you very technical place Joe thanks your 1st time caller over get to that because I think we all have to look at alternative energy sources and what one is best at but at the minute today it's about the inconvenience what people are doing about the right to protest whether or not they are a flipping new sense or whether they are the new see the heroes I love to continue that conversation extinction rebellion on our region and have a quick chat to Ronnie in a little while about the football and what happened last night and this is adoption week so we will be talking adoption get involved it's your show to have your say on the big stories of the day were 173128000 find out what's happening online as wrote . 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Travelers with the underground there are severe delays for the Central on b.b.c. Radio and next updates just before 6. Is long as you lay awake at night thinking of fixing on the. Radio in London breakfast this is a story that interests you. Or story that you just couldn't tell. With Vanessa what if he was having an intimate relationship with a. Weekday mornings from 7 people out the. Radio breakfast very very pleasing to have your company b.b.c. Radio. Or whatever I mean on the radio on a morning City Nestore taking you right through to destination remember between 7 and 8. But not much has kicked off my shoes radio police go home and we have a good about whatever you like extinction rebellions been on origin or and this is an adoption weekend I've got a baby in the studio we're going to talk about adoption in a little while 1st Ronnie has given us a call from work for today to Ronnie. How will you tell me your thoughts on this football loss not what should happen because because. There are all sorts of consequences at the minute charges being. With Go ahead of their federation or whatever it's called resigning what did you make of it listen it's appalling it's a disgrace we need our own house before we go insane you think about anyone else but I still go matches. And you want my get muddy commiserations. I don't want to go there you know. I listen I don't have an opinion about of when you know I'm totally impartial but I hate. I any good I get to go again. Yes No no no because you can have your fun now you can have your say and when I was a no knowing I've got to say I want a couple of songs one when they were playing man you know when they were playing all still on I really of the Emirates when. That is how to grow the helicopters what they say what they sing about the managers. Don't you just pick on the best player and whether raise a red head where Rhys tool whether you take on that person to try and disrupt them isn't this an extension of this of the same thing yeah but it's only now listen racism is 2 different things you know there is 2 things you don't do that and I'm picking on him Sterling if his momma house praise God for him I wish they should all be upon their payments our substance lovely just get him back on the football if England was not winning 6 you know I would have walked off the pitch if they were limited I would have walked off. Please please don't even go there so what would you cannot just quickly from the right because the baby started to get restless and I once he's had friends were treated right now not anymore I used to be have to buckle up feed the baby anymore so dried up and all of that right. Tell me well them walking off the pitch with it on. You know what I want to do every day every black player in the Premiership and championship they should just walk away. Just just just give me an answer to the question what would leaving the pitch have achieved they would achieve the law. So you would have let them know that you know well enough is enough because they talk about this week in week out and nothing's being done I wonder if they really need to step up they need to step up and do what I mean it seems to me that you're doing that thing that every now and again I get accused of which is to focus on the victim I think Tim's job to do anything they think Tim has to be protected there's you way for this fee for they were governing boards and if they don't do I was going to say sweet f.a. Football Association then nothing happens does it $173.00 want to thought we come back to this we come back to extinction rebellion and this one's quite a good one for me you know it's national doctrine week we started yesterday we're talking about a shortfall in people willing to adopt today I'm joined by a family who've recently adopted Jackie in a move that Jack you know more everybody but I don't know it's number we're going to pick which other black people don't. Pay to be did you steal. The trend is that right all so thanks for coming in and gentlemen I have a good chat with you in a 2nd right so Jordan Yes Jordan Yeah look at the South I mean just just tell me oh you went to visit once a business that incoming That was more fostering and adoption I know that a completely different and I'm not going to mix them up but just tell me how you came if you don't mind to adopt this beautiful baby. So for us it's been a really long journey of dealing with fertility issues so we we were on that journey for quite a while and we had a lot of i.p.f. And we had miscarriages as well and some of them were very latest well and we decided after 10 rounds so it was quite a long journey that we had to find another path so I'm not that kind of guy you know you've gone through a lot there and I know because I've got friends going through and have gone through how traumatic that is just tell me seeing your wife because it is an OS The it is a loss right so we need to do thousands it is an OS that Toyman's the temperatures the places the position of the heartbreak the stress the residual impact mentally psychologically physically spiritually What's that do to the relationship unbelievably strengthen those. It was the biggest test that we could ever have fruit. We started our journey 200-920-0920 extension 09. Till today and in between that time we had our traditional marriage as in we go in gays. Are. Going to. Let you know right away so you know. And that's that's where our tests came from so we believed it was you know oh. Yeah we Yeah it really it really did really did serve and I was in terms of our relationship and it helped us build more that's Jordan grabbing hold of the microphone there that that that that that sort of that sort of it in in terms of that journey that 10 year journey. Before we get on to the adoptive processed there was a room in it where you have to accept that we're not going to do it in the way we thought we might be able to do yes I think we had that moment 10 is you know does sound like an incredible number of I.V.'s that I think are no money is a lot of money and when we when we had number 10 and something special about the number 10 I thought this was going to be a and and that cycle unlike others completely failed and we had had others in the past I think successful but obviously we you know we lost those children unfortunately and so number 10 because it felt like such a special number and it just didn't work at all it was at that point I said to her more we need to look at another way of building our family and that's where the option of adoption came up and in terms of adoption or know that you know get what you want and you don't always want what you get it's challenging isn't it because the gold standard is to get the babies as young as possible so you can try to imprint what I'm cutting to the quick on this one because what should a dad father. That's Ok I'm going to video this is. This is this is. This is your test to know if you could be a dad. So you can make that. Brilliant that's what you do. It in terms of how intrusive was the whole process around working out whether or not you would qualify for. Quite intrusive you know because they go into your your whole history your family history present history your finances every single thing from the ex-boyfriend. That we learned about. You. Know what did you find a job we didn't actually we were Ok You know we were Ok I don't think I'm for you no longer there weren't any surprises. Yeah there were some interesting questions where we did look at each other. One of the most interesting ones was when the social worker asked us is your relationship monogamous and you are not completely straight faced so you could you know look at that and say oh no it's not a full life I think you got to talk about how to. So yeah it was interesting but. We didn't find anything new Did we learn I think now that we were 3 thanks for coming in Deborah gave Rose head of service to Dr London West cut to the chase and I think I've done adoption week adoption and foster week fostering every single year in the 17 years I've been on this station and it seems as though it's getting more not less challenging. That's right days there are many children though and who need it up to families and the the launch of regional adoption agencies which is us joining small adoption agencies together we're really hoping will make the difference in terms of collaborating more closely with colleagues across London and nationally and we really want to give a message that couples like Jackie in a more of a say have done fantastically well they've got that beautiful baby but what we want is for people to come forward who are not sure who are interested and option and and explore it with us and does it matter how I come to accuse because you know you would you respect you've come to it because you wanted to be a family here and it wasn't working in the traditional way does it matter how we come to know many families to come forward in the same position as Jackie in a more but we also have a saying that we have singular doctors we have same sex adopters it doesn't matter how if you want to be a parent and you want to say why why why would anybody want to do what you want because it's life changing it's hard work it's challenging but the joy and the gift of having a child like less than one we're also going to have got to do Rich yes mainstream values are they have to go to you know restaurant I used to be going to go right now we're talking babies. And then we go it's hard it is hard it is hard but see what comes whether it's a joy but also the message from us is we will try and support as much as we can so the adoption world has changed in the last few years so we're much better I think at supporting adopters and trying to make sure from the beginning that that we're giving a message that we're here to school in we'll be here throughout your child's life did you have to be a black baby Jackie. We when you're going through the process actually the social workers will sit down and speak to a lot about identity and explain that actually having a child that. Reflects your identity is important and so actually by the even if we had thought something different before we thought we might want to a Chinese baby or something when we entered into the process by the time you've gone through the process you've had your education you've done your reading Actually you probably would recognize that it's better to have a child that closely reflects your own background and also there are so many black babies out there that need adopting so they would have been no reason at all for us to to not look at well I think you know for me a lot of these interviews where. People come in and the story they come in for actually maybe isn't the most interesting thing about them for me it's how you stay together what you did what drove you whether it was faith I'd like to we invite you and the little terrible back you know we could longer really because it's not it's not really long enough to thank you for the work that you do not I know it isn't easy if people want to find out more about where you are where should they go they should go to the website so drop London has just launched so. If there's information and guidance on there about contacting us and we will respond and follow any inquiry that anyone wishes to make so you going to come back if I ever book as you probably know I'll get a last question so as long as you're ready I'm going to be like a person. Could not get any worse about it work. Is it is it is. Just just give me that very real. 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The centerline and hoping stations accidentally fall into McKinnon b.b.c. Radio and makes updates in 15 minutes to sit right here. On the. B.b.c. Soundstage 6 isn't around. To see. Her going to z. Said 6 o'clock I'm Welsh in the USA 1st president Alex on the show says the football family and governments need to wage war on the racists it comes after England's game against Bulger area in Sofia had to be stopped twice last night because of racist chanting and black England players bug area have this afternoon been charged with racist behavior throwing objects and disrupting the national anthem Simeon and soft is about Gary and student studying in the u.k. Holding on to racism is still going on.