The schoolboy he was fatally stabbed in Stratford on Thursday the teenager arrested also faces a charge of grievous bodily harm with intent in relation to another 15 year old and 2 counts of possessing an offensive weapon he's G.'s to appear at Stratford youth court tomorrow Downing Street sources said the u.k. Is still a long way from agreeing a final Breck sit deal with Brussels and talks in the coming days will be critical intense technical discussions have been taking place this weekend ahead of the European Council meeting on Thursday his own political correspondent Nick has been encouraged by progress in recent days but the message from a number 10 source last night was not to get carried away the prime minister will speak to key you figures in the next couple of days to urge them to help get a deal over the line tomorrow's Queen's speech will include a withdrawal agreement though the legislation required to implement any do with Brussels last night a government source insists that there was still time to pass it by the end of the month this bites a belief in some quarters that an extension would be required whatever happened in the coming days Japan is beginning the process of recovering from the most powerful typhoon to hit the country for decades at least 9 people have been killed well to making landfall on Saturday typhoon has triggered floods and landslides and it battered the country with winds gusting up to 140 miles per hour and huge quantities of rain rivers have breached their banks in at least 14 different places the government's planning to scrap the current system of rail franchises and replace it with a new commercial model focused on performance and reliability further details are due to be given in the Queen's speech tomorrow it's understood ministers will adopt the proposals put forward in the review led by Keith Williams the former chief executive of British Airways and at the Rugby World Cup in Japan Scotland's game with the hosts will go ahead this lunchtime it had been. The fixture in the city of Yokohama would have to be abandoned because of the extreme weather cools and Scotland's be eliminated it's now been confirmed the t. Teams will be able to face each other with a win advancing to the quarterfinals and the latest round of the Formula One world championship is also being held in Japan and is now underway qualifying had to be postponed until this morning because of the heavy rain Sebastian Vettel Ferrari started on pole but was overtaken at the start by Valtteri Bottas is a must Sadie's London's weather Will County with some rain showers but gradually becoming dry of the soft inane and highs of 17 Celsius or 60 Faran Heise b.b.c. Radio London it's 5 minutes past 7 on digital radio 94.9 f.m. Band on b.b.c. Sounds this is longer the b.b.c. Radio London to make a fashion. Funny if you're just joining us you missed a lively 1st hour you can of course listen again to this program by going to b.b.c. Sounds coming up we'll be talking climate change in a moment with Professor Peter stiring we're also just read by just Levy's warming up for us in the you know green room is not really a green room it's a reason. He's from the synagogue and he'll be reviewing the papers for us who will also be talking about homelessness particularly poignant on a day like this where you know the weather's awful and you realize that there are many people who are currently sleeping on the streets so as always anything you've heard on the program you would like to comment on feel free to do so $17031.00. 2000 some of the things we are talking about this morning just want your thoughts about the death penalty potentially. These 2 the 2 remaining British members of the ISIS gang known as The Beatles may be taken to America and they could face the death penalty Well we don't have a death penalty here there is a death penalty in America how do you feel about that 080-731-2000 also let's talk about doctors I mean I have to say that we really every time I get an opportunity to see a doctor I'm I'm grateful I really am it's I think there is the n.h.s. Sometimes we we do if we're honest take it for granted and the idea that we can even if it does mean you have to wait a month pick up the phone and say I need to see a doctor or book an appointment eccentric situation is a real luxury given when you think around the world the challenges people face having said that when 15000000 of us are having to wait a whole month in order to see a doctor. What does that say particularly given that since 2010 junior doctors are really not thinking about I want to be a g.p. They don't be general practitioners they either specialize or they leave the service so the numbers of G.P.'s has stayed the same since 2010 and yet the number of patients the patient need has grown so I mean we're getting to a point where we might potentially be in a lot of trouble we're in trouble now but we're in a little trouble in the future when it comes to people's health but I want to hear what your g.p. Experience is like when was the last time you went to the g.p. How much of a challenge was it to try and get an appointment whenever you needed one Have you ever had an appointment on the day that you needed the appointment apart from going into any because I don't think I have I mean I'm fortunate and I'm going to do this not that I'm superstitious. I don't. Think that's a good I can just feel my body go oh really you just wait in flu season is upon us but I would love to hear your experiences 87312000 or you can text by starting your text message with the word London to one triple 3 that we're also talking about how you broach the subject of sex with your children when it comes to your children how do you discuss it taking your calls on that 080-731-2000 there's an online section or e I haven't been on it but apparently it offers the Christian Institute are complaining about it because it offers 13 year olds practical and sexual advice and they're saying it's it is profoundly responsible well how you talked about the birds and the bees and how you going about talking to your children about that very subject 87312009 minutes past 7 o'clock I'm Jim McKay fashion another post few days in London have been dominated by extension rebellion rebellion protests which have closed roads and bridges and occupied squares to highlight climate change this comes in the same week as a report into London's clean air was released as well as new research by the climate Accountability Institute in the us which has shown that the world's top 20 fossil fuel companies have contributed to 35 percent of all energy related carbon dioxide and methane worldwide and I'll be talking to Professor Peter stiring about that slightly later on before we get on to that let's have a chat with Chris Chris good morning. Good morning to all the listeners the birds in the beaver gone overseas. That Listen the doctors see the government as being mentally You never a sector and it's making people think you can overwork people and this is what's happening in society look it teaches the police but doctors nurses them mentally never think they'll be experts they seem to be the experts but they know they should leave it to the ex-pats undergo to get well. And the doctors are qualified to think right they can make wise decisions they can do on their own not that as they only need guidelines within reason and logic you know you take the load of people who are working for. The most least amount of money and then multi-tasking So the bottom section sector is just as hard to survive coming to these protest as now we have to differentiate what's climate change and what's pollution what we're talking about haze pollution manmade all the manmade pollution. That's the argument climate change has been happening since we had gone and God has given us the party elements and the 2 about losing act may don't disrupt anything if there weren't any changes would be elements not all dark and it happens naturally it's a natural process these protesters do they have a plan they destructing people large animal protesters do you think do you think they do they may not have a plan what they apparently they claim they do but do you think they'll make a difference not that different at all they cannot change but climate all they can do nothing about it is the pollution all the plastics that are in the Sea Why don't they gone form a party to get it out right so I don't think. So all these people who are sleeping in Trafalgar Square I mean as I came in this morning you know the cordons is still up those people who have disrupted you know city airport or potentially trying to do that some people you know last few months ago close bridges and all of that kind of stuff. All of that is for Nolen boy this there's nothing that there's not going to be any change that's quite a. Gloomy perspective really if you if you think about it on a Sunday morning or any morning about the idea that no matter how much protest no matter how much bell ringing about how much crying about how many overestimate that it's not going to change anything. Do you agree with Chris 087312000 Chris thanks very much for the call and so I mean the research which we're talking we're going to be talking about now which it's a report but over such bike climate Accountability Institute in the us has shown that the world's top 20 for fossil fuel companies have contributed to 35 percent of all energy related come and sodomy thing worldwide the report research looks at both state owned and private investor owned companies it's aims to hold to account those companies most responsible for carbon emissions and shift public and political debate away from a focus just on individual responsibility joining me on the show to discuss the research and how governments industry and the world in general can try to combat greenhouse gas emissions is Professor Peter stiring who's director of the u.k. Center for carbon utilization Good morning good morning just 1st of all talk us through briefly if you would this this research that has just emerged because it sounds like it's a really damning report about what is being done when it comes to business. If you look at the report and then not surprisingly puts fossil oil companies in the top 20. But this is this is a global problem this is global problem in many sectors. So the oil industry obviously produces carbon based products which we burn in causing homes and in factories and that's going to produce come in the side but there are also lots of other. Ways that come to us I guess into that was fairness and again it's not just the on the side it's all the associated the missions that go with as well the not for not sides the so for all sides. So it's not surprising that big business and it's called on the side. The trick now is to try and find a way to reduce those emissions and as you've seen the things like 0 which says we should do that by. By 2050. The problem is how do we do that it's very good to have the politics behind it say we're going to do it but what we need in place is a way of actually doing it and doing it quickly. Let's talk about how willing all the companies themselves with this is globally will be in the u.k. Willing to to work on this willing to really make them mock it are they only those are triggered by penalties or are they doing a lot of work. Not so. Last year sorry earlier this year there was a report by about industry of the carbonized Haitian. And that stricken by the u.k. Government but with the buy in from u.k. In the streets as well. Industries all looking to the carbonized it's something that has to be done. You know climate change is related to emissions it's very. Excellent research coming out of NASA which shows all the possible causes of climate change and the only one way you can say directly there is a cause is c o 2 emissions So what needs to be done is we need to try and get those emissions down as soon as possible but that really isn't an easy task What are the what are. We accept that it's not an easy talk about what are the even fast steps that we 1st step stage are we further and. Further along but we do need to start that acceleration. You know groups coming out saying. We need to do this by 2025 that really isn't going to be possible we are not for a lot for long because of to actually do things in the next 10 years or so. Unless we put a lot of investment in and it's not just in this room that has to help it's the public as well so we need to look at reducing our emissions. One thing that's often not consider this. Space heating how we heat our homes. The moment all the stuff using was predominantly natural gas. So how do we move away from natural gas to a more sustainable way of living the thing is transport transport is a large proportion of the emissions even when you compare it to industry so the move away from electric vehicles to electric vehicles but that is not a 0 emission option because you just shifting the emission so if you look at the ultra low emissions and in London while the cars will be not emitting carbon dioxide directly in central London you will be shifting the emission to the power stations outside London so it's just moving the emissions it's not reducing them unless we can get a truly renewable energy sector and how feasible is that. To a great extent lies with government because at the moment we have. A ban on onshore wind farms and if we could move to onshore wind farms which are about 50 percent cheaper than offshore wind farms then we start to build the capacity but then you have to look back at the public so the reason. That people are opposed to. On shore when it's people like the look of it is that Nimbus is not in my backyard right so we have to change our lot of things need to change just so they'd know these on sure when phones there's no danger. To those people who might be close to them will they locally he simply a matter of luck or is there any research that says if you have been will be that the thing is on the local population. Maybe maybe 10 years ago there were problems with noise pollution right. Seems too of a basis. But there are no more greater risk than having a coal fired power station or having a gas fired power station it's just you know there is obviously a risk but the risk is very small. But it's small changes at the moment you need to start making the small changes to build up the bigger picture. I made a decision couple of weeks ago to stop driving to work going by bicycle Yeah so I ask my emissions by 75 percent just by way of making one choice. I think the population need to globally need to wake up to the fact that the small changes that we make can add to the greater good really and that that the other that's one of the big things or stumbling block in some to a certain degree the individuals feel that oh my you know we does my 30 speak when it comes to things that deal with climate change in it's still negligible that actually Wible that. If you've got one person doing something it may seem negligible but if you've got 60000000 people doing something then it starts to other so it's the little things it's looking at you know insulation in the house closing curtains not maybe dropping the temperature of the room by one degree it's the little things that start to other chips away as a big problem. Can I ask you what your thoughts are about extinction rebellion do you believe the kind of activity that they are undertaking will make a difference. And that's a very interesting question because when extinction rebellion started. I think he was making a great impact right I think he's now gone a little bit too far. It's highlighted the fight but there is a problem but what it needs to do is not become a negative force. So I think 20 years ago I'd like to be there with them in the early stages. But. So long as it's a peaceful process. Then I think it will have an impact. But when it becomes extreme that's when problems start to occur and if I can just take you back to the top 20 countries at companies like upon the have contributed 48480000000000 tons of carbon that is you know since 965 and they've been named Do you think shame is going to work in any way I don't think so I mean. I looked at the list and I know that many of the committees involved are all looking at changing the practices. Maybe it's a good thing with being named but. I think the need to be deeper research into what steps they're taking to mitigate the problems without naming companies I know several companies are looking to go to 50 percent reduction in fear to emissions by I think it's 2050. But again we're looking at this magic number 2050. But the i.p.c.c. Report really says that we should be looking at 2030. And that is a very very big ask Dr and get something done within 10 years. So writes Well let's let's see well as you say a little from all of us might help lovely to speak to you Professor thank you ever so much for joining us this morning Professor Peter stiring who's the director of the u.k. Sense of a carbon dioxide utilization it's quite sobering thoughts to hear what he had to say this morning so the ambition is good but the reality is very different also the idea that extinction rebellion will be making any difference now is an interesting thing to hear him say Well have they gone too far that is my question to you this morning 080-731-2000 are you still in agreement with them if you were originally oh maybe now you're like yes it has gone to far enough is enough I'm taking your calls on that this morning 87312000 We're also discussing the 2 remaining British members of the ISIS gang known as The Beatles who've apologized the beheading an aid worker in 20 food team one nicknamed jihadi join the nickname jihadi ring go there waiting a trial in the us which could end with the death penalty some asking you how you feel about the death penalty if they if they end up in America they will they potentially what might face it here in the u.k. They would be charged people would deal with them but they wouldn't be x. And I don't know where the executions were would have it's not even high and you know what I mean taking your calls on that this morning 080-731-2000 in good morning good morning Jim Ok I think this is quite cool yeah it really is so you better do do. You know the more you. Begin to wish. You had tell him that the next time you speak very right. People go they've also said sorry yeah let's cust our minds back about 45 years when they were at the height. They were just beheading people they were executing people on beaches pushing them in the back of the head there was the infamous 2 tiny Impala that was burned alive inside a cage. None of these things are Islamic. I think. For any muslim out there I mean you paraphrasing this and you correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't nearly every verse in the Qur'an begin in the name of Almighty Allah the Most Merciful the most forgiving they showed no mercy they should be judged according to their own actions and unfortunately the end of the Americans has not even those actions will be completed but I think they should stay exactly where they are and face the justice to the sherry a coach in the country where they are. More apt punishment. I suppose one of the reasons why I want to talk about this this morning is is is what does it say about us as a society I know we always come back to this but there is something about for instance if they were taken to America they potentially would face that death penalty if they came here this would be would be of a different Hugh if you like they would know that they may be in solitary confinement for the rest of their lives but they wouldn't be. You know they would have to face the death penalty. Trying to balance those things with the notion of what their potential crimes were is a difficult journey isn't it for all of. Well you can this way when they most probably decide what they were going to do when they were out there I don't know if just for crossed their mind I can't speak for him because of you know what a nice we do lose him if we do get a coke and we're going to execute 2 laws a disc on and. See if and then you think about it. Think of the cost of self back to the time we're at the height of Jade showed nothing in the way of the night when they didn't show Matthew does that not mean that we should. Oh that's just the language of the USA It's a real cynical we know you know if you're truly if they truly believed in what they believed in and the actions they committed Surely they wouldn't stand by the ending the consequences that would be but you know the law is a turn man said that I'm going to do anything to you they go to America that we must avoid at all costs because the Americans discovered service like. The British It's a matter say you've been very naughty his 25 years away but you're not going to die what determine this that sent to people who are still out there. Yet giving you the mission mission seem to you think way too forgiving. As a hall but you want to show forgiveness but sometimes you just call. Beheading a man in a way they did. It's premeditated I mean they most probably tormented this person the day before as I thought they had it and they knew exactly what that entailed I can distinctly recall what he's because there is one on the news very early on and you can see to look at this and to look at this person's face saying it was going to happen and that will only. Say they showed no mercy Yeah Ok well you know I mean you put forward a good argument as always so let's see whether other people agree with you 080-731-2000 IOW we always come back to that moment about are we better as a society that word but we. A more robust society because we embrace the notion of forgiveness who grace in the face of incredible trauma I don't know and as always when we get to this moment in the program I want to grapple with you with that having that conversation please 080-731-2000 I would. Yeah we'll talk more lots to come as always 080-731-2730 time for the news headlines or turn your. Thanks very much good morning the foreign secretary Dominic Rob says he no longer believes an American woman he was involved in a fatal car crash in North Canton she has a diplomatic immunity because she's returned to the United States and secure the u.k. After the collision in August in which 19 year old Harry Dunn was killed the b.b.c. Has discovered 3 young children from London living in a camp in northeast Syria their parents are believed to have died fighting for the so-called Islamic State great the children could be in danger because they camp is near the approaching assault from Turkish backed troops a 15 year old boy has been charged with murder following the fatal stabbing of another teenager who was the same age near London shopping center Baptista at j. 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Brixton kiss and tell you. In bricks that that's going to be a hot ticket indeed make sure you grab hold of the b.b.c. Radio London and to make a fast 734 I'm taking your calls this morning on a 207312807312000 so let's return to our conversation about climate change and the climate environmental issues extinction rebellions 2 week protest is almost at its. Halfway mark is the protests actually making a difference to any of us whether it is the us the individuals government or industries do making any difference in the way we think about climate change let's go to John morning John good morning 1st asked about whether they can treat foreign affairs minister and I can tell you anything they want to do because they're the only ones who are time to stop the end of our civilization so I'm happy wherever they are so when you have I mean. Yeah we know how realistic Yeah I think there's a one percent chance from our governments and corporations to do anything that I think extreme fear is very important. Up to 5 percent and then Grettir's Sco strike price up another pipe and then sell it becomes a 10 percent chance to some think we won. 90 percent chance of dying or if we want to know and you know one percent chance of dying. Of it say yes and you know anyone down for the 99 percent is Tapper is met and I think most people would agree with this that the notion of if it can bring about change but there is also a time when the professor was pointing out for instance if you have what we currently have that you know that zone where you come but you call Dr Set and calls it moves the problem further out what they're doing is also hampering people in their day to day lives I'm not saying that what they're doing is right or wrong but that is it's the right way to go about I mean someone delude themselves to do here at the b.b.c. This just this week well fortunately they have to focus painfully to tary some things that's what they want to see you become an activity so I suppose past and if the people don't want to then I have to caution to do it so for example 80 percent said the crisis is the number one climate trust is number one and yet at the end of August I took more lives. I'm not whole up to 28 trying so you can say whatever you want but it's the actions that count the British papal need to be focused very thing. And that's why we have a democracy we were post to also things to remember what certain way. We were happy to tarry because we know we have to come forward. And so that's why we ended up winning World War 2 because we focused the parties opposed to trying from making cars to my trunk I will post it and so the government needs to pay for I Winston Churchill our nation and to focus the companies to very thing is post the paper today things. Because it is so common theory and that's why the governments around the world who signed the i.p.c.c. Report in 25th they have hardly done anything but even though they haven't done so there really needs to be a red line then needs to be a line in the sand says if you don't do this the move find a way to force you to do it John thanks very much for your cool keep you cool coming in on that have they gone too far extinction rebellion What are your thoughts 080-731-2000 or you can Tex by starting your text message with the word London to 81 triple 3 it's now time for the News Review could see of Rep I just Levy from the alan cynical Good morning morning I'm very well thank you it's been a busy time in the Jewish calendar so it's delightful to have you here thinking where not think of it so you think of it now you know it's later another how many how many more days so we have a whole month of festivals Yeah that we've inherited so the whole way through this month pretty much as a rabbi you must be exhausted you're getting really tired. Well listen we're grateful that you came in this morning well let's start with the big story of course Brett says. Yes I mean you had to say that word I mean really sorry. I'm not going to be talking about. Every front page I'm sorry I know I know honestly we're in October I mean it seems extraordinary right now that we're you know we're maybe 2 or 3 weeks away from this really but it's either going to be a big moment or does and that's what the question is really right I've see and I I think it was very interesting for me is this a lot of. Call irony maybe hypocrisy on the front page of. The Suddenly those voices which are of the most extreme and most belligerent suddenly asking for compromise and you know the Mail on Sunday complaining of other people self-indulgence having really kind of got us to where we are now in some ways I think particularly interesting is the voice of Jacob Reese Mogue this morning in The Sunday Telegraph here where he's asking for the compromise which is inevitably needed which considering this is the person who enacted an illegal progression of Parliament and used some of the most polarizing language of this whole debate it is slightly challenging. But it's also interesting what it says about where we sit right now firstly the very real concern I think there is that actually where we will end up will not be enough for the hard line breaks tears for the d p and for the g. That actually you know if we smuggled coming out and saying this it does tell us that we might be leading somewhere which is not going to lead to a comfortable deal within the Tory party. But it's also interesting what it says about how Boris Johnson is perceived So one line in recent article is as a lever Boris can be trusted it was interesting because if you need to say that it probably means that there is that suspicions that are around about where he really stands whether he is truly committed to this project and I think that it's going to be very interesting watching it play out over the next couple of weeks. Whatever happens we're going to be left with these 2 really challenging aspects to our political life you know one is the extraordinary coarsening of our discourse that's happened over the last few months you know the inflammatory and incendiary language that's been used here you know and I'm not sure how we row back from that and the other thing which we've spoken about before which is you know some real questions about what we mean by democracy and. You know and you know what sort of a democracy do we have you know you know those those 3 questions are not going to go away even if over the next couple of weeks we do end up with a deal and some sort of resolution to it as it stands I feel like as a country we almost need once once we're wherever you know once we're there whatever that there is we need some sort of healing we need something that brings us together that you know we almost need an Olympics I'm not even being funded you know so I mean you need something that as a country we can come together in this extraordinary way because at the moment I mean it feels incredibly fraction here but I think if it were lympics then it would be based in London and you know the truth is being the London elite getting what they wanted to give you know somebody saying you know I think we experience the Olympics is this extraordinary thing yeah I don't know how much it did sort of you know go out into the broader rephrase That's the spirit right there so then it is an interesting thing you know I just you know all of these issues now that they've been released how are they going to be resolved and reconciled Yeah you know one doesn't I think have great faith in our political parties as they're being driven to the extremes by their leaders to be able to do that process of healing and it's not quite clear then who can. Now the Queen's speech tomorrow people are concerned about rail franchises but there are many other things that might really raise an eyebrow or 2 that's an interesting thing in a couple of the newspapers about what would be called the electoral integrity bill so we do have rather an odd way of voting in this country that you just sort of turn up and say you know this is my name and they go home Ok then. But so the plan is to introduce that you have to show some form of id before you can vote since you don't know you have so you don't. Truly just. Thinking you just wondering do you and even if you don't have your little card I always feel I must take my card just in case they don't think it's me right but actually if you do you just say you know you say you want to say and I mean your address and and it's intrigues of course what it reveals is there is this tension between a security system and encouraging people to vote and I think for some of us carrying id with us is quite a you know it's a normal part of our lives but I think something like one in 4 of the population don't have a passport or one of 5 to have a passport one in 4 don't have a driving license you know and that's particularly true in certain I think minority groups and among those in low income groups so you know there is a danger that this will disincentive vies voting at exactly the time when our democracy requires us to really be encouraging people to vote again and to engage with the political process so inevitably there will be accusations that this is driven by a political agenda because it will exclude a certain type of voter from elections but it's also just seems to me to be raising some really big issues about how we encourage people to vote in this country and to engage with our political process when there's much in our political process that. Is quite off putting Yeah I'm just going to look at my producer Jamie because I just want to do a quick yes or no and can you just maybe we can do this on Twitter I just want to know do you have a passport and do you have a driver's license because you have both thank you. But I here is to go with actually the number of my listeners who potentially don't have a part or a driver's license. But again that you know to recognize where we are you know we are in this thriving cosmopolitan city and the capital of the coast you know whether that's true you know beyond London you know into you know you know pulling apart seaside towns Why would you need to have a passport and if you've never had the ability to buy a car why would you have a driving license. I have a driver. I believe the plan is that you will be able to get some form of special electoral i.d. But you know the very people who are not going to have those sorts of things and not be people are going to possibly have it within them to go and register for that or know about it or to have a relationship with a government that isn't one of suspicion so I you know I think we're raising some real issues here about again about our democracy and what it what it looks like and you also raise a really important as you've just reminded me of a conversation. That the Nesa felt was having with Amelia from The Guardian who broke the window Rush story and she was talking about people who lived here for 60 years of course with no documentation because they didn't feel they needed the documentation so actually even in asking whether you have a driver's license or a passport is actually compared to what it makes sense if I'm not leaving the country if I am not driving then why would I have either or but yeah that's quite a sobering thought well they need to look at it in some way or the other let's talk about extinction rebellion because it's been yeah of course such as had a professor just to I don't know whether you has I think you know he said you know he initially he might have joined in the protests themselves and now he's like they've gone to full. So it's interesting I. Want to focus in on. What they're doing and the methodology and more on some of the extraordinary language being used about them in our newspapers right so you know whatever we think about their methods I think probably I hope we can agree that most of their motivation is pure certainly the members of my community here involved and my rabbinic colleagues who are involved are genuinely motivated by you know care for the world and for our future Yeah and some of the language that's been used both by our politicians but also by our newspapers about these protesters is really quite extraordinary and again it speaks to that remarkable coarsening of our discourse you know soon particular the Mail on Sunday this morning which has pages you know explaining how they are too elitist you know accusing them of lack of diversity I mean all sorts of things which it would surprise you that the Mail on Sunday would care about. But you know there's a there's a full page Peter Hitchens article which is just plain Mikel and it's interesting because he at the heart of it there's a very interesting question which is how do we deal with this issue in a way which is economically viable but it just becomes polemic and again what this speaks to me is a real concern that we've lost the ability to have grown up conversations about real issues you know when the prime minister of this country the most powerful man in the land is instead of taking them seriously condemning them as you know uncooperative crusties and bring those protesters and I don't know if you know which of my rabbinic colleagues he's met here out there but they're neither of days but you know when when that is the level the tone of our discourse we have a real problem about how we move how we deal with these really serious issues in our society but I still come back to my question which is do you. Will this bring about well I suppose the question is really have they gone too far or will it bring about change I mean those. Questions before us because everything . They do and you can absolutely accept the heart of the notion that this planet knee we need to look after this planet all of that I think people agree with but is this the right way to go about it I may not be the way that I would like I would go about it but I think you know I think there is a very strong case to suggest that other methods have not worked you know non-disruptive methods haven't worked you know if you read some of the sort of theoretical writing behind it people like Roger Hallam have written about it you know one of things they acknowledge is this conversation has been going on for a very long time and without it being taken seriously you know the forces who are standing in the way of really dealing with these issues are very powerful ones here and it's hard to see that any form of non-disruptive approach would. Would never work I have an impact it would have an impact so you know I think. It's very uncomfortable but I think that discomfort is a place which we probably need to to sit in for a while and to acknowledge and to really try and work out how we deal with it because what's being maimed is something that we have to deal with it just reminds me of some I don't know where this came from but you know you have to have the stone in the shooting keep you sort of focused right you are right and I think they are the stone in the sure the mayor is on on something which it is quite easy for us to to push aside and not deal with again a very huge issue. And of course it's not just the u.k. Movement it's an international movement Yeah and that's also very significant because you know this is an international problem. Any of the stories that rabbi just Levy from the Alice synagogue is covering for us you want to comment on feel free to do so 087312000 your final stories Turkey struck Syria is one of the mighty . So there is this enormous thing happening that we don't have the headspace for but actually should be up in arms about here which is that the American president has stepped aside and allowed a very violent attack on northern Syria by the Turkish government Turkey which is a member of NATO one of our allies and it is. A humanitarian crisis it is hugely destabilizing for an already unstable region and also it raises some real risk for us I think Dominic rob the foreign secretary spoken about the real risk this raises. Because the people who Turkey are attacking of the very people who are guarding you know the ins fighters who we don't want coming into Europe and you know threatening our society saying yeah you know it feels like there is a huge amount going on in the world still but you know that this story should be being pushed you know it's a page 13 or whatever it is when it is quite so significant is very worrying and again also speaks to some real questions about power in the world and where we stand in the world because you know we do have an America which and Russia who are doing nothing without our ability to influence them. And there is real risk here for us this is a very sobering thought just very quickly before you go we've been talking this morning about the death penalty in America versus the kind of justice we mete out here in the u.k. This is in the light of these 2 remaining British members of the ISIS guy who have apologized for you know the awful things that they've done since 2014 then now being held somewhere we believe could be anywhere could be could be in Syria or could be in America but if they land in America potentially they could be tried there which means the potentially they could face the death penalty and the question around is you know would they be better of coming here is our justice fair or quote unquote so. I mean there's a I think it's about whether it's fair or not I think there are 2 issues one is that we you know we have a rule of law in this country and these are you cases citizens and therefore we are responsible for them and I think we shouldn't be what they've been stripped washing our hands of us what right and I think that is a problem that we're washing our hands of responsibility from citizens. You know there is a 2nd much broader question about how we feel about the death penalty you know I come from a tradition which is unequivocal in its opposition to the death penalty you know despite the fact that the Bible is you know quite pro-capital punishment the very 1st generations of robberies. You know really turned that on its head a very very clear that the death penalty is wrong full stop. For religious reasons and so for me I think that we should be in a position where we are allowing people are enabling that's happened to people particularly who are citizens or worse as this country. Is promoting. Always good to see you thank you for tackling the light and the dirt in the dark dark of them only Hopefully the next time you go we will have some levity but it's always a joy to see you Rabbi just leave from the synagogue taking a look at some of the stories in the papers for us this morning of course testing on Breakfast is the 1st time we mention that this morning but you know any of the stories you heard you want to comment on feel free to do so the Queen's speech to include measures on electoral fraud extinction rebellion its impact here I suppose in the u.k. Further afield and whether or not it's making a difference and then the whole issue around Turkey and Syria so I'm taking your calls on any of those keep your calls coming in No 807312000 or you can text by starting your text message with the word London to 81 trip or 31 of the subjects we are talking about lots of e-mails coming in this morning Jim Ok Dr show b.b.c. Doc dot u.k. There's a. I've only just opened all my e-mails I've just only disini e-mails and I will read them out but let me go very quickly to my next guest if you find yourself on the streets without a home and seeing no future for yourself how you left feeling about the idea of a caring God Today many churches are marking homelessness Sunday and many Christian and other thing with charities are involved with supporting people who fund themselves on the streets Joining me is the Reverend Roger quick who knows what it's like to be without any way to live and who's now a chaplain at a faith based charity St George's crypt in Leeds Good morning wanting to Ok Thanks so much for joining us this morning how did you find yourself becoming homeless. Like a lot of other people the immediate catalyst that led to it was around the time I had arrived my partner she and I had a blazing row I walked out and decided with the sort of twisted logic can happen I will show I'm going to get completely off my facts and I got very drunk and turned up at the charity where 40 years later myself working. Wow what a story. Everyone's life is an amazing story and mindsets of interest interest are what So I mean you've done I mean I think I would say this I'm fortunate we're coming up to to winter and of course Christmas is looming and I get a chance to go and volunteer for crisis a Christmas and and I see people who probably mirror the story that you have just told us about you know not deliberately trying to make themselves homeless but through a series of circumstances find themselves that but I also see in them is a sense is potentially not so not every one of the sleep but just that sense of who cares about me who who who really does care about me I suppose my question to you is about where does faith sit in the middle of all of all of that mess that sense of paying under violated not paying for a little toll of being surrounded by society is really deeply at the heart of a lot of the crises that we say and. It's something which is extraordinary and humbling to I get asked to pray with pay for more now than ever I did when I was in Paris ministry and church. People's faith is humbling they various. Now we have in that me here in London there is the growing homelessness crisis and in the knowledge by the mare there's a lot they're trying to do but do you see the situation changing it's all because the challenge these be growing and not becoming less. Yes it is growing in over the 6 years I've been trapped in a century skirt I've seen the numbers virtually double in terms of people coming to us Polly because the homeless part because mental health services are under very great pressure there isn't the housing stock or the should break and underlying it all is that sense of worthlessness which destroys people do you think what do you think the role of government and other organizations should be to lead the aids crisis. If you get a simple on Siraj the wrong question and it's not always necessarily a party political issue. But there needs to be some balancing of the wealth of what is a very rich society and looking at resources from the beginning of people's lives before they get to school that's when a lot of the damage has already been done. Well thank you ever so much for joining us this morning that's the Reverend Roger quick who has and knows what it's like to have nowhere to live 40 years ago before he became a chaplain and a you know sort of member of the clergy he had that experience it is homelessness Sunday so if you want to share your experiences with us do feel free to give us a call 0807312807312000 Tanya We'll have the news at 8 in just a moment 1st Michael has to travel. Good morning starting this morning on a 41 handed way north by now it's close there that's between Penn and drive all the way to the brink last flyover because of an accident there look at diversions in place especially for the past 113 which is severely affected also in Charing Cross in the center of town one whole northbound some emergency repairs have closed the road there that's between Horse Guards Avenue and Trafalgar Square into Elephant and Castle and you can't road eastbound an accident and a traffic light failure slowing things down greatly as you're heading on to metal road and in Croydon chrome road in both directions closed because of an accident that's between South Park Hill all the way to Castlemaine Avenue if you're heading out of London the m 26 responding can one lane closed there between junction 2 for Wrotham all the way to junction 3 for the m 20 owing to an accident on the train's engineer and worked all weekend means no service on the Metropolitan I'm tween Baker Street and all gate on the house within city line no services we can between Baker Street and barking no service on the District line between. And on the entirety of the Circle Line no service all we can London Overground replacement buses running between Wilton junction and Richmond t.v. Showing all b.b.c. Radio London travel the next update is in half an hour on this radio. Or 9 am The b.b.c. Says. This is an armed. B.b.c. Radio to. London's News as a sign Tanya snags We'll bring you the results at the Japanese Formula One Grand Prix shortly but 1st the foreign secretary Dominic rom has suggested that an American woman he was involved in a fatal car crash near a military base in North Hampton no longer has diplomatic immunity because she's returned to the United States and secure less left the u.k. After the collision in August in which 19 year old Harry Dunn was killed she's now said she wants to meet the teenager's parents who are due to fly to the u.s. Today to raise concerns about the case and reporter Simon Jones is at Heathrow where the family of flying from he says they'll be departing with mixed feelings the mother said that she was very pleased by that Harry's family say they're rather confused though why this is suddenly come out of the blue but they feel their fight is at last making some sort of progress we also heard that statement on behalf of Ansar crew last herself why she says she's devastated by what's happened and this offer of a meeting but it's all clear given this latest development from the Foreign Office when or if that meeting will take place because we could have a situation now where North hold a share police along with the c.p.s. Will try to get her extradited back to the u.k. At least 14 people and now known to have died in Japan as a result of typhoon the most powerful storm to hit the country for decades rivers have burst their banks and landslides have been triggered almost half a 1000000 homes were left without power the b.b.c. Has discovered 3 young children from London living in the camp in northeast Syria the parents are believed to have died fighting for the so-called Islamic State group the children could be in danger because their camp is near the approaching assault from Turkish backed troops a 15 year old boy has been charged with murder following the fatal stabbing of another teenager who was the same age Nia Long. And shopping center. Jade was found critically injured on Stratford Broadway on Thursday afternoon the senior cabinet minister Jake a recent poll has warned breaks it is that the government will have to compromise to get a deal with the e.u. By saying in The Sunday Telegraph he insists that they can trust Boris Johnson not to concede too much to Brussels because he's a lever last night at Downing Street source cautioned that a final agreement with Brussels was still a long way off the prime minister will speak to Emmanuel macron and Angela Merkel over the next few days in sport the Sadie's have secured the constructors' championship for a record 6th year in a row after Valtteri Bottas won the Japanese Formula One Grand Prix teammate Lewis Hamilton came 3rd with Sebastian Vettel in 2nd place Scotland's make or break game against Japan in the Rugby World Cup will go ahead later it had been feared the game wouldn't happen because of the typhoon with less than 9 hours to go the authorities announced it could be safely plays the Scots need to beat the hosts and at least match the number of bonus points they received to qualify for the quarter finals and Victorian theologians and poets John Henry Newman will be declared a saint by the pope today Cardinal Newman he converted from Anglicanism to Catholicism in 1985 is the 1st person to become a saint since a 17th century Scottish priest was canonized in 1976 Catherine Pepin the former editor of the Catholic newspaper the tablet more details about his life he was the church news are very holy person but he was dedicated to God and to his fellow. Author of many many books but he was also a priest and then eventually became a common minister to the poor of Birmingham London.