25 anticlockwise cueing from Junction 3 this one and changed was when I ate the Swans them after the match was closed earlier that was to recover a lorry then clockwise it's like between junction 10 to the is the in strange and 11 after a collision which has been made to the hard shoulder it is also quite slow clockwise around junctions 7 for the m $23.00 because of a collision. On the m 49 ceilings a close southbound between junction 2 that they concealed and the m 25 and that's following a collision there involving fine calls but there was already a separate accident earlier on so it was already just looking very slow there and in Westminster on Victoria embankment southbound there's been a collision between banking stations so there's no right hand on Sue Northumberland diving in Henri will b.b.c. Radio London Your next update same 15 minutes heavy snowfall in the early hours has caused problems on the roads this morning many train companies are running either a limited or altered timetable and more than a 100 flights have been cancelled the tea tray more information with us after the news. Digital radio and t.v. . To fill one out at least radio stations. Radio. As user generated long time Christian your hood morning London as a facing a testing commuters several inches of snow to settle on the capital early this morning they have been accidents on the m 25 the m one and the m 40 already this morning causing the park closures of London's biggest roads and drivers are being warned to take extra care on the trains most lines are either disrupted all running an altered service i Reporter Greg Mackenzie's checking out the problems at some of London's busiest stations so I am London Bridge station and as I look up the departures board there are plenty of delays and cancellations 5 minutes past 7 said to late the. Tunbridge well service at 10 past 7 cancelled then you move along there's lots more cancellations the Met Office says conditions are unlikely to get better for several days there were weather warnings for snow and wind across London in the southeast until Saturday these commuters we spoke to earlier were taking it in their stride though. This is. Not going to be a working from home actually you know like a couple of centimeters now within London and the city comes to a grind just something that we should just kind of. Crack on with around $45.00 flights have been canceled out of Heathrow out of London City and one cancellation again awake Forecasters are warning it will continue to be icy windy and more snowy for the rest of the week you know the news a motorcyclist has died in a crashing Canning Town It happened on Silvertone on the way at 9 o'clock last night when a b.m.w. Hit the bike and to Texas the victim a 32 year old man died in hospital the e.u. Will this morning publish a draft of the brakes a tree see that will specify the terms of the U.K.'s departure the document is expected to say that Northern Ireland will have to follow the rules of the single market if other solutions can't be found to avoid a hard border although they're always subject to negotiation the Democratic Unionist Party m.p. Nigel Dodd said that was a ludicrous idea if there is a political constitutional economic and currency border but it doesn't affect the free movement of goods and people and what we want to do is to see that continue there are solutions out there but they are each government others don't want to accept those because what they want to do is to force a political solution on Northern Ireland in the United Kingdom namely stay inside the Customs Union while Ireland spokesman on e.u. Issues Neil Richmond said the border issue must be resolved exit happens in 13 months time reassuring speeches and soothing noises are of no use at this stage and let me see some. The data which we haven't seen the research taken out by my committee showed there is no real solution to a bar maintaining that there is no border on the island of our place in Croydon or appealing for information after 2 men attempted to abductor a young girl in broad daylight the 13 year old was walking in Granville gardens in North Korea on the 18th of February in the afternoon public satisfaction with g.p. Services is at its lowest level since records began 35 years ago according to the annual British Social Attitudes of a 65 percent of those polled last year were satisfied 7 percent fewer than in 2016 and a study has suggested that high potency cannabis noticed skunk now accounts for the vast majority of drugs seized by police researchers at King's College London say skunk possesses a significant risk of mental health issues in users Dr Marty deformity lead the study if you look at the association that's been reported now consistently between kind of issues and risk of developing psychotic disorder I actually the people of that preferentially you skunk and in fact they use skunk they carry the highest risk among the kind of misuse us every 6 that goes up to a 5 fold increase compared to people that never use kind of base estate agency Foxtons or seem profits collapses sales activity in London plummeted to near historic lows the group says full year pretax profit tumbled 65 percent from $18300000.00 pounds to 6 and a half 1000000 last year while revenues slumped 11 percent the cost of nursery education is continuing to rise in London the Family and Child Care Trust found the average cost to attend a nursery for just $2.00 days a week is $193.00 pounds that's an increase of 7 percent on last year the charity says to many parents a lot of work by high childcare costs and low availability and Camden Market will burn the sale of further story bosses are asked traders not to sell their product. From Tramore own words The decision follows a similar ban at the old spittle fields market now with a look at London's whether his car you can sell another basically to cold day across London snow for life a night has settled on the ground even in central London So some very dangerous driving conditions this morning for the Seychelles and the Met Office has a yellow weather warning in place for them they will clear away though through the afternoon a dry picture but basically cold with a strengthening easterly when the maximum today barely getting above 0 would hit one if we're lucky but factor in the winter temperatures the going to feel more like minus 70 minus 8 b.b.c. Radio long about 6 minutes past 8 in the live in London worked in London the ex is London local media station still here h.b.o. And the local radio station of the Get this is b.b.c. Radio long best breakfast show with the message. The listener welcome to b.b.c. Radio London's breakfast show with me Vanessa Feltz a very warm welcome on a very cold day trust that she was safe and snug at home if that's where you all safe on the roads which can be pretty treacherous this morning although we believe that as the sun is coming up and as London grinds into gear the grosses are out in force and we're hoping that your journey will be much less event for them we feared it might have been much earlier this morning when matters were very different indeed commuters a waking up to as I say as a district just conditions this is effecting nearly all of London while getting has been taking place every night and in the early hours of the morning many roads do still remain very icy real uses of being told to expect disruption this morning and possibly for several more days this week Jim Dale who's the senior risk meteorologist at British Weather Services says the biggest problem will come on Friday when the storm meets cold air over the u.k. By all the rare it's going to be this cold air in situ I'm going to pitch is not just the snow but the wind with it so glad that potential. Becky Cannon is director of social action for the rule voluntary service and she has this advice to people this winter she says it's a time that can be very isolating for older people ask unable to cope to shop for you you know if you are unable yourself in United each. Person or more valuable person living next door and have a conversation and somebody says and I think that I need too many pets walking do they need to try to have some lead to many that have created the intensity of older people themselves in a new race if you have to go out really think about a rape that minimises you need to go down steps or minimises you need to go down state. I Reporter Greg McKenzie is in London Bridge station this morning Greg what's the situation like out there well good morning Vanessa It's getting busy here at London Bridge station as commuters are riding at the station I need to be told that many of the train services here all day late and many are cancelled the trains up to Cannon Street Light Charing Cross the light West Croydon cell has to light and then the cancellation is now he's trying to die and a few of those lights are on this morning the advice they're being told is you can use your train tickets on the buses but not sure the buses go from London all the way up to Hayes But anyway I mean I'll only have to find out but it's not just here at London Bridge Vanessa there are delays across the entire round their necks out and more delays and cancellations south eastern Great Anglia Southern c.t. Sea and great and Northern supping catch not a few commuters here at London Bridge and here's what they had to say the trying to well the light going to day. Saucing passengers this morning how you get into what. God summer's Wells crisis is being canceled so I'm not going to do while going to be working from home I say do you like the snow day I love the snow good fun good luck with you trying to light this morning was a little bit light coming in from whiling And what do you think has so we're really . Just prepared for and I'm just kind of got myself into work so I kind of expected it so you prepared to get your hat and your jacket and some nice and warm for today Barry cafe's here in the studio with me and Barry is checking out the situation on the roads and at the airports this morning for us how's it going Barry not grace it has to it has to be said in the Knesset particularly on the roads if we start off on the motorways we've got problems on the m $25.00 the m one in particular on the m 40 on the m one south bound it's down to just one lane at Junction 8 for Hemel Hempstead that's following an earlier collision taking around an hour and a half to get through those Q So you can imagine the problems coming in going on from Hartford and bed for a chair and looking at the end $25.00 anticlockwise queueing from Junction 3 Swanley interchange towards one scum and that's because the motorway was actually closed in that section earlier to recover a lorry. Around clockwise then it's very slow at the Wisley interchange between junction 10 for with Lee and 11 for chart c. That's because of a collision which is now being moved to the hard shoulder clockwise it's very slow around junction 7 for the m 23 then we've got problems on the m 422 lanes closed southbound between back and failed in the m 25 following a collision involving 5 vehicles so again at most risk coming in from Oxford chair and blocking a share into London are trying to make their way into London London very very heavy delays there and of course there's been grazing overnight and in the early hours of this morning road still remain. Aning very very icy in particular the more kind of back roads and suburban roads around London even down in south London around Clapham and Bhatia sea we have reports that cars are moving at a crawling pace there and in Central London snow and ice mean very very tricky conditions for drivers as you can imagine looking at the airports 45 flights of being canceled at Heathrow at this morning British Airways say the flights that they have counseled are mainly European and short haul flights London City Airport as well is really affected flights currently on hold there because of the snow fall but Stansted gas we can loosen are all looking quite good this morning with the flights running pretty much as normal the advice though to check with your airline before traveling to the airports thanks very very much indeed it's good direction to sign Williams from the r a c Simon Hello good morning to you good morning and I mean the aid has been quite alarming Fernand in this we're not used to this level of snow combined with this level of cold and some people are saying they're experiencing waves that they feel have not been great seeds yet but St Regent Street among them what's the best advice for people the. Best advice is preparation obviously 1st of all decide whether you really need to say get into your car and drive if you can avoid it. Better off if your cars although it is best for everyone and if you do take a ride you need to make sure your car is 1st Pat you need to have carried out your pure winter checks is always a bit late now but also make sure you are fully prepared with things in your coffee going any kind of distance or you might you get stuck there is a strength very locally you want to make sure your plants are warm clothing for a charge mobile phone and if you can only distance you have a sleeping bag is a good idea 2nd double a blanket doesn't take up too much space and make sure you go a warm drink and some drink or maybe some fried if you're going any distance at all but you're. Their actions are you clear your car completely of snow of it is an offense to be driving with a slime out top of your car clear off otherwise it could fall into a part of someone else into another car into a cyclist or Strand. And that is very bad news for everyone concerned yes I have to say that this morning at 20 past 4 precisely when I left my house cleared my car of snow just as you said diligently doing what you're supposed to do got in the car what mattered what Seconds later 10 seconds later the whole thing and it had completely silted up was negative can see out of my back window at all wasn't sure what to do because I thought well if I get out of here again it'll just fill up with snow again I wasn't I my mind who drives a desk is absent magnificently equipped these games having done the advanced motoring test which I now realise I should have done and so should all of us should we really I think that's a really good idea. Also answering a very good case of words kind of carry out because it's going to make your far better drivers if you're driving and you need to make sure you're leaving more distance behind the car in front because stopping is the biggest challenge. Change of direction and there's a horrible crunching of the brakes which I did not ever quite experience before when I went with which I I know about leave a big distance between I know about that I know about put your foot on the brake very very gently and even a sort of slightly like pumping gesture is that right nevertheless the crunching noise was frightening as heck I found Yes you might find that your agile Operating System Commander. Takes On puts on the brakes takes off really really fast Rockley happening in seconds is that good we want. To say to feature Bowden's or most modern mode or modern car right about working properly and eyes which is good news but is a bit scary and strange because you don't express it often That's right just slow down leave access space just be very very careful in terms of but if you're trying to interact and talk to me about skidding which which you except when. And is my sore journey's work you know it seemed an inevitable part of it somehow if especially if you wanted to time you know anything about from a straight line you were pretty much going to be swerving around a paper of your Williams that well said he so were opposed to 360 against the Dr as well in the b.m.w. Do something very similar this morning what does one meant to do somebody said Steve into the skid but I don't really know what that means. Difference between front were front and rear wheel drive. Generally the front wheel drive if you're if you start to see the back and start to move straight to the rights then you turn into the skid to the right call and straighten up it's not quite simple with the real world of car but it's. Just close things can be very hard to do in a so you need to do is so from a slinky perhaps you know people need to kind of go and spend some money and learn to learn to drive and kind of on these tracks but we have that where you can actually simulate this very rich for a New York actually could be very worthwhile to a lot of people thank you very much indeed for talking to some Williams There they are AC and we will be straight back with if you don't have onstage and yes you might want to give us a call and tell us you know how our quick do you have a driving in this weather maybe you've just done a perilous or has a destroyer even but quite confidently because you really are across this maybe you've lived in America Canada. Scandinavia a country where driving in heavy snow is the norm you know exactly what to do or maybe like me you just realize but much too late when you're already out on the right this morning the way out of your depth way out of your depth 7240000 will be straight back with you off to the travel. Changed on the m $25.00 it is still queuing anticlockwise from Junction 3 the Swanee in strange tools $18.00 This one's come after the most weight was clothes much Tehran that was just to recover a lorry in clockwise and its slow between junction 10 for the reasons change and 11 for a church see after a collision which is not. Live to the hard shoulder still no change on the m one southbound it's down to just one lane at Junction 8 the Hemel Hempstead and it's off to a collision so it's taking a round an hour and a half to get through these keys then on the m 42 lanes close southbound 2 injunction to the back and fails on the m 25 minutes after a collision involving fine vehicles but it was already looking slow in the area there following a separate accident much earlier on in coming town the 8 had seen its queuing westbound was accounting town flyover after a car broke down earlier and in the stylish dog kennel Hill that's partially blocked by place tween Champion Hill and Hyde she wrote and is following a collision. On the chiefs no service on the central line between Louthan with a tween Woodford and Haney via Grange Hill or so the District Line has to be a delays after a signal failure on the Piccadilly Line has severe delays from Acton town to Heathrow and bridge on for the trains Greater Anglia have no service from Liverpool Street to Bishop's Stortford or Also no service on Sunset Express from Liverpool Street to the airport and on se and there's no service on the line that's between dark 3rd and Charlton and Marie Walsh b.b.c. Radio London Your next update in 15 minutes. To our appropriate or inappropriate is it to commemorate the battle of stressed out cyclists hill stations or above the old actually wish to give you a lot for your in mind. Perhaps you know in the summer about this subject I'd like hard work to 976. Is long to fix is b.b.c. Radio. And on the line Stephen Croydon I think fairly outraged a bit sort of miffed and a bit ticked off Steve already it's in the 19 minutes past a good morning. Are just can't believe these people for real I mean I'm sitting here in court. Or in court. On the ground. I mean I'm just in is used to be on the. Anyway all these hundreds of school and I appreciate it a bit worse than other places but come on even 5 or 6 years ago it was when I was going to work it was. To the nice and there wasn't much fuss even 56 years ago and look at the records in your city and then back in the eighty's I'm 56 now that back in the eighty's it was was a worse I mean you know I was quite hardened they not done for free is the army 17 to 21 to come out and you know we've got a pub crawl in and we swear we wear these were the sulk SOCOG and that's. Because the wind chill is freezing not you know really really red meat burning you've got none of that I can see what people are going on about it's just beyond a joke now I mean they must be lost in a world like places like suede and it's we actually were in San Diego and that's why you've got the tropical climes Oh of warm hole roaring sun case Croydon it's not the same another month of London every space I mean come on you know but not know if and I guess because I grew up there I was in a even last year 2 years ago in New York 3 times the scouts 3 times is called absolutely freezing you know this is this is going to be on the job now we also have an i.q. 9 a 6 a minus 9 and you know that that's that's that's you know that back counts as exceptionally cold doesn't it. Even the bad with. The wind there is no wind that's home I mean come on you're same age as me yeah you must remember then when the wind . When we grew up on the steps you made me and I I didn't know all I know is that I mean I've already mentioned this on the show I'm not going to you know create a more epic story than really have it all I know is I have to be at work we know my blunt my of the show on Radio 2 a whole post for I leave it 20 policy every morning I live in St John's Wood writes I'm really near the b.b.c. Is how far is my journey Ratzmann what 5 miles 6 miles and it's down the main arterial is a Finchley Road The used in road up biggest roads in London among them anyway so I come up I came out of my door 20 past 4 and I see proper thick snow I don't know 234 inches of say the whole garden is completely covered said the road covered in so I assume it's been snowing all night that's what I think how I how else could it be that thick so I think get in the car clear it is no getting it back out somehow get down my road slid down that slither along at the rate a bit turn left and the next and l.b. On the things you rode no sweat no probs at all I'll be in the trail of a 1000000 in a bad technique and lorries in all sorts I get to the main roads it is fresh thick new snow I am absolutely frightened out of my wits this morning coming in it was terrifying I really mean it it was a pick and I was going I wish I had a film I needed Epsom Bernard some brandy I needed some crampons a few shoppers I needed crisp awnings I needed a whole lot of stuff just to get to it took mean it took me about half an hour longer than usual to do this piddling journey of no moment I am I think it was epic Steve love you should talk to you thank you very much Steve things were massively exaggerating on in our days where you are and how it is for you getting into work but do tell us 2 or 72240000 now this story cannot have escaped your notice this morning is one page of The Telegraph among other things and the headline is this g.p.s. Paid to cut hospital refer. Rules g.p. Practices in some parts of the country are being offered cash if they don't refer patients to hospital an investigation by g.p. Magazine polls claims that g.p. Practices could be paid up to half the savings if they refrain from referring their patients to hospital under profit share agreement and we're joined by the redoubtable Dr Lawrence Buckman Finchley g.p. And friend of the show Hello Dr Buckman Good morning. And then Claremont Yeah good good paying you not to refer patients to hospital no they're not fortunately if they were would you take that cash and think fabulous Would you think something is deeply a ride with this idea I think it stinks I think it's an appalling idea it's a perversion of taxpayers' money it's unethical and I think most patients would be very concerned to think that their g.p. Was behaving because it was in their financial interest to do so I think that's dreadful because I'm a human Dr Reichman that when you are therapists into a specialist in a hospital you're not doing it for a lull and take the for a job you're doing it because you assume that that's what is the right course of action for that patient right well that's what you should assume and that's the case for most doctors and the idea that you now think there's something in it for me because I get money by missed referring you or not referring you is absolutely appalling sadly that's what the n.h.s. Is coming to but on a Friday most of us would have nothing to do with it and tell me about when a g.p. Makes the decision to refer a patient to hospital why do you do that on the basis of want. What either because they need something I can't. Somebody needs a heart transplant but we don't do that in the surgery so they have to go somewhere else or because I don't know what's wrong with them that's actually quite rare or because they need a technical facility that the hospital provides and we don't yeah all 'd because the patient. Appears to need a consultant opinion to satisfy them. That's actually quite unusual people think it's very common but actually it's quite unusual to refer only to an agreement between the patient and the g.p. It's not I decide it's the patient and I between us agree that that's the best course of action for them but once we've agreed I wouldn't want them thinking that I was then going to change my mind because somebody turned my head with cash. What is the purpose of the someone overseas to save money because the savings of easy accrues to the n.h.s. Not the savings are paid is cash back to the g.p. Who has enabled the savings to ca but I thought I didn't understand whether this is based on somebody thinking course you've always got a terrible cough every time I speak I wish you better they will be thinking presumably the G.P.'s are simply retiring people willy nilly for unnecessary reasons why would they go there because they're stupid because politicians don't know the n.h.s. And don't think because people who work in the health service believe that G.P.'s are just profligate referrers most of us control our referrals very tightly we feel slightly uncomfortable when we refer we've now reached the position where most of us won't refer to a variety of services because we know what pressure they're under. And are not going to add to that the pressure of anybody ever thinking that I was on the take as a result of not referring you for something let me also you know you say sometimes when you're with so you feel sort of uncomfortable because you obviously realise resources is stretched and you author the stretching them but surely that's not your job to have to feel uncomfortable you're not doing it's superfluously his league you're doing it because you think that person as you still needs an extra opinion or needs a procedure or an operational something that you yourself can provide Why would you have to feel uncomfortable because the patient will wait such a long time for a very inadequate service badly managed and we already have that where I practice in a variety of facilities particularly the community services which are pretty far in the pirates on it and it's not because the people doing it a bad it's because there's not enough of them so the service is so poor that to deliberately refer yet another person is going away a year something by also quite a wakeful seems to me to be cruel it's better to tell patients. You know I might refer you for this but you know going to get it so we you know maybe we should think of another strategy that they're giving you know you all if you would mind of a service that you might reluctantly refer someone for knowing that it would be at least a year and even then probably shambolic what sort of the thing physiotherapy would be the obvious one district nursing services are stretched so thin. Barely functioning and that's not because the district nurses are no good or physiotherapist are no good it's purely they are just overwhelmed with the amount and when everyone says well let's push out more into the community they have to think well what will they do if they push them out of the community there are no credible community facilities and I don't think it is unique in that regard I think most London boroughs are struggling to deliver anything that looks like a service and so for me to refer a patient for a District Nurse I would think very very hard about it I wouldn't want anyone ever to think I was trying to my mind because somebody paid me that would be dreadful thank you so much for talking to us always revelation Dr Lawrence Buckman g.p. In Finchley if you were on his list I think you say lucky at least he's forthright and very studious is very rarely does he see something and he doesn't know what it is that's not his usual usual reason for referring Let's bring in the essential they can sell out with the essential whether which is just as hypnotised a dozen or so the b. I think they have a start with this there tomorrow is the 1st day of me Churchill spring. Yes no natural spring as you can appreciate Yes So yes we've had snow fall of night central London has a covering of snow everywhere has seen it temperatures why they fell to minus 6 and it's not much woman now and the temperatures going to stay basically because now the snow showers have drifted away north and east say looks like we're out of risk there but we still have a Met Office yet a weather warning case Kate's want to pop in later on in the day but look at these lovely sunny spouses code it's crisp but it is going to feel bitterly cold the easterly wind is strengthening 3 today so we'll look at. At a maximum of 0 potentially if we're lucky but the temperature with the wind factored in is likely to feel more between minus 8 minus 10 so very very cold afternoon I am in overnight tonight I will see increasing cloud coming out from the south this is ahead of storm which is due to join us tomorrow morning still never was named by the Portuguese Met Service say this is her head towards the u.k. Tomorrow morning as it does say the wind strength the system very strong easterly southeasterly wanes but also once there starts off as rain in the south it tends to snow immediately sorry say cold so we're looking at some more prolonged snowfall through the course of tomorrow morning disruptive snow for coupled with the wind some tension a blizzard s conditions and that's going to continue into tomorrow afternoon and it will drift away for a time but then come back again for Friday so the Met Office has yellow weather warnings in place for snow and wind for to morrow for Friday and for Saturday thank you very much indeed Kate can sell a comprehensive weather then most of it alarming We will be straight back with you after the news headlines. Thanks for there's a Londoners are facing more problems on the roads and trains this morning after a substantial snowfall overnight and emergency services say they're dealing with accidents and stranded vehicles with several accidents causing problems on the m $25.00 the m one and m 40 this morning many train routes into the capital are either disrupted or running an altered service and around $45.00 flights have been cancelled out of Heathrow mostly short haul flights to Europe Forecasters are warning that the weather will continue to be icy windy and with more snow until at least Saturday another cold front is expected to reach us by tomorrow morning a motorcyclist has died on a crashing Canning Town It happened on Silverstone way at 9 o'clock last night when a b.m.w. Hit the bike and 2 taxis the victim a 32 year old man died in hospital the 1st draft of the e.u. Is legally binding brakes a trees he's expected to say that unless there's another deal Northern Ireland will have to follow single. Market rules the alternative would be i.e. Hard border with the Irish Republic public satisfaction with g.p. Services is fallen to its lowest ever level analysis of last year's British Social Attitudes survey found concerns about health service compacts and estate agency Foxtons as seen profits collapse as sales activity in London plummeted to nearly record lows the group says full year pretax profit tumbled 65 percent loans whether snow showers continuing this morning and staying very cold with temperatures barely reaching freezing or one degrees Celsius 34 Fahrenheit boss feeling much colder in the wind blows are the headlines now with the b.b.c. Radio London travel Here's our Marie Walsh. A. Lister looking very busy on the m $25.00 anticlockwise it's queuing from Junction 3 this one against change to with one if it's once again after the motorway was closed much earlier on that was to recover a lorry then on the clockwise side it's flow between junction 10 for the Wisley interchange and 11 the church is off to a glacier which has now been moved to the hard shoulder on the m $42.00 lanes the close southbound tween junction teeth of bacon spilled and the m 25 in the us after a collision there involving by the cool as it was already looking quite slow there after said practice in Iran now much has changed on the m one southbound still down to just one lane at Junction a to Hemel Hempstead and I was after a collision there so it is taking around an hour and a half to get through those queues there then on the I'm 3 there's been a collision northbound 2 injunction 4 for company and 3 for light water so one lane is blocks and in Canning Town the $813.00 is queuing westbound towards the Canning Town flyover and that's after a car broke down. On the cheap no service on the central line that's between Larsen and would fit between Woodford and Hainan it's via Grange Hill also the District Line has appeared to laze after a signal failure on the Piccadilly Line has to be delays us from Acton town to Heathrow and rain is Lane to Oxbridge not much has changed on the trains great idea haven't. Service that's removeable street Bishop's Stortford also nice service on Stanford expression livable streets the airports and on se and there's no service on the Will China between Dartford and Charlton Annmarie Walsh b.b.c. Radio London your next updates in 15 minutes. Coming up on b.b.c. Radio London's breakfast show with me Vanessa Feltz more of your calls on the weather how is it in your part of London are you like Steve in Croydon looking at the bright sunshine and wondering what all the fuss is about maybe you back told him maybe you've driven it about 4 miles an hour where really behind the the vehicle in front just hoping you don't have to turn right or left because in order to also how you can do that without skidding maybe you have stated home today maybe you looked at the snow I thought and I thank you I'm out I'm in nice What is your story oh to a 7 to 2 for 2000 but also on the program handling How do you do it I know people who do it in Harrods in Selfridge is in the mace press did just shops in the capital they say well you know I like this it's a k. But I'm only prepared to give you x. For it and then they let the person the sales person worry about it they're not nervous they're not shied and not embarrassed they simply say it and if they aren't says no it's no if the answer is yes brilliant result would you do it in a shop would you do it on a market stall or you may have Glad we're going to be talking about haggling on the program and to have $7.00 to $2.00 for 2000 but 1st here's the sport with Christian year. Was a cut commentary this evening top line against the tail in their 5th round reply on teaching radio t.v. And online some said the b.b.c. Radio was. Thank you professor in the last hour England's cricketers of beat New Zealand by 6 wickets in the 2nd one day international to level the series the home side May 223 in their innings with England 225 for 4 in reply job. Hit the winning runs around that we have to. Launch this high and mighty over midwicket that's going to be a 6 sure if a couple of us there swimming learns that it was compelling it was commanding lead by Ben Stokes back of England shirts 63 not so popular there with the 6 taking its course a 36 in the end with a 6 wicket victory and all of this inside the 38 so that chasing that 224 told no manager Murray to potter Tino in says Harry Kane is happy at the club and can fulfil his desire to win silverware in north London His comments come after the former Spurs boss Andre vs boys claimed the England striker Kane would have to quit the club if he wanted trophies or notoriety tonight Spurs played their 5th round every calorie play against Rochdale at Wembley full commentary here on b.b.c. Radio London digital and on line from 7 o'clock Phil Neville the New England women's team manager says his critics want him to fail in the job given his lack of managerial experience Neville who is preparing to take charge of England for the 1st time this week in the she believes camp in America says he shouldn't be charged on 3 matches this tournament I don't think I should be judged soley on this tournament you know that there are probably people out there that probably want me to lose all 3 games and be told I told you ultimately for your contract. At the f.a. Ball it's all they've had in investing a lot to me and I say this is a long term project and I work for union the island center Chris Farrell excited to miss the remainder of the 6 Nations including their match against England after being injured in training yesterday on Lin's man of the match against Wales suffered ligament damage after twisting his knee in the tough that's all the sport for now next update in an hour London is a job building 2nd reason even and why do they need this is a local radio station this is pretty safe this is b.b.c. Radio best Great Fish Oh we'll. But this. And let me give you a heads up I'll tell you what we're going to be talking about after 9 o'clock on the program you know the jokes about mothers in law in profusion old Les Dawson and this takes about the mother and or the mother in law when she arrives the mag's the mice fling themselves on the traps and all that kind of looks to be said about mothers know what about fathers ignore their own quite still on the subject of fathers in Norway we did say much although they want to further a Bernie Ecclestone now ex sons indoor James stunt is his name has decided to hold forth about what it's like having Bernie Ecclestone as a father in law. Handing the father north from hell as he's addressed the brutal spat between James stunt and Bernie Ecclestone shows just how hard it is to win him around the archetype of father and or never teams his daughters see which is good enough and all that kind of stuff so let me talk to you about fathers in nor this morning maybe you are a father and know when you know exactly how to play it maybe you are suffering. Life with your father in law or your father in law's making life total hell but what is the relationship between sons in your fathers in law and what is Norm fathers in your fathers in law that's what we're going to be talking about after 9 o'clock if you want to just incorporate all in-laws because you think you can have one without the other they come as a package you can do that too how hard is it to endure in-laws Is there anybody who really likes their enormous and what is it to be a good in-laws say that you don't ruin the marriage of your offspring because you don't really want to do that let's get it even Bethnal Green he's talking about the Irish border and Bret said Hi Dave morning. All right thanks how you. Did Well it was a nightmare but what was it like because like because I left in 420 this morning and so I drove in a mess hadn't been any cars on the road and there just been a massive snow fall so I was I was terrified out of my wits I'm not joking I'm still via sort of visits. Slightly shaking tell me Tell me about you because you've obviously driving around how if you lost only 2 of the back lost only job as one of the city drivers doing. Not drawn into the conditions to get to far think you close the law or west. So I said are they going too fast and too close Well here you. Are in. Early And I think you know I mean the. Usual. Time now at the drive in it's conditions you know always have you see much skidding going on just a little bit too much to the road because you lose in the road the road you came back to is going right to him anyway as your day goes on unless we have another heavy snowfall to get better so I know you want to talk about the people today are a sport about it's a hellish noise coming from you and. Those kind of summer to skin a long shot whoa want to know why that I think banging on about of crazy process in the law. Is a such a why did I think that actually even you are you going to paste process could collapse time was explained to us is that what they're talking I thought they were talking about the economic impact of a whole religion and I don't know that I always say. It could it could impact on the peace process you know I'll want someone to explain it to me and. I would have a go at doing so if I could do it but I have to admit defeat I can't do it will save anyone else can Dave thank you so much for the call good to talk to you careful matching around London days as people on know not driving to the conditions this is from Jenin to sing Please remember all the district nuts is of course we do and you would actually just heard Dr Lawrence Buckman if in she said there aren't enough district nurses in fact there are hardly any and if you refer your patients to district nurses you'll find an awfully long ways piece remember all the district nurses driving and walking to visit patients in their own homes 24 hours a day 7 days a week regardless that the weather conditions I'm going to night do you see tonight in my team and I will be out in minus temperatures on. I see raids visiting on patients this is our job and I'm not complaining I just wanted to remind people that despite being overstretched and underfunded the dedicated staff of the n.h.s. Continue to try and deliver quality care please think of us when you're all tucked up in bed tonight certainly we will by let's move on to an altogether different subject if you regularly visit your local market this may be news to you now Miss Power it terrible at handling research says Nandan is a too shy to haggle even though there's money to be saved Arpels Greg McKenzie noticed I retire in violet by any means is on East Market in well with South London this morning hello Greg good morning Vanessa I am on a street market this morning not surprisingly there are hardly any markets to try to say gee to the snow but there are lots of shops open and lots of their vegetable shops and of the shops and food shops so I've run into one of the last one shopkeeper to have a chat with me this morning about this story because haggling as you just said there is about 16 percent of us Londoners are too scared to haggle they don't have the confidence so we're not going to name a shopkeeper because he doesn't want to give too many tips away Robert so instead to haggle and then bargaining do you get that from your customers here yes a lot has to do with the way you know the item that way customers always us for bargain so when they were weighing stuff people asked for bargains how kind of void kind of losing money. You know because I've been used to days were days when it's 5 to 6 pounds so you know some customers will bargain it low so when you see them you weigh them and say 6 pounds is 5 pounds so the customer let me give you 5. She'll give you 5 or she's a regular and you don't want to drive them away so please them you take the 5 but that's your price and he failed you know Wow So there's a tip best she barely knows enough unless I mean haggling it comes with market life I mean and people are used to books should I go and I mean even for myself I had going to the time Vanessa and it's millennium goals the top the list and followed by those kind of between 1977 and 995 have more confidence when it comes to bargaining and haggling and then the people that were born since 1996 the top this study 19 percent of them who will confidently Hakko I mean I've had gold in the past I mean low as haggling in charity shops I mean I don't do that anymore and obviously you know. Box of comics there's a box of comics right now 100 quids for 500 comics from 197 say so I said Look I'll give you 75 and the guy politely said scuse me Do you realise you're in a charity shop and I said I'm so sorry and I actually gave 110 pounds but I don't do that anymore so anyway that's just one story Mark it's quiet haven next in the morning and I guess haggling I mean do it why no I mean you've got to get a good price on something and the study also says if you're gonna buy a telly or something shop around you know a t.v. Might be cheaper next door in the next shop so there are some tips on offer so there's just 5 are quickly. Top tips off a low price that is worth to me in the middle yet never take the 1st off when that's businesses will never take the 1st offer and. Potentially shopkeeper all the markets to try to trace years they actually are give you a better price and choice build a rip and research what deals are on offer for Next up or right Greg thank you very much indeed part this is. Absolutely true all my colleagues say they have Macy's Greg McKenzie bartering haggling offering this deal and that deal in parties for a successful at it so you can take your tips from him will be straight back with you after the travel. Will still no change only enter into 5 anticlockwise and it's queuing from Junction 3 for the Swan The interchange tools when I come off of the most way was closed much earlier on to recover a lorry so queues haven't really recovered since then I think why is it slow between junction 10 to change and 11 for Chertsey So after a collision which has been moved to the hard shoulder on the in 42 lanes a close southbound tween junction beckons fails and the m $25.00 and that was there after a collision there involving 5 feet cools and not much has changed on the m one southbound still downs just winding one lane at Junction 8 for Hemel Hempstead so it's off to a collision there but it is taking around an hour and a half to get through those keys then on the m 3 to speculation northbound 2 in Junction 4 for Kambli and 3 for light water so one lane is blocked and on the cheap no service on the central line between Loughton and would fit between would fit in Hainault via Grange Hill also the District Line has severe delays after a signal failure and on the Piccadilly line there are severe delays from Acton town to Heathrow and rain is Lane to Oxbridge and on the trains great still have no service from Liverpool Street Bishop's Stortford also no service on stands at Express that's from Liverpool Street was the airport and then on se and there's no service on the wish line between dotted and Charlton and Marie was b.b.c. Radio London you next update in 15 minutes this is London if you're London you haven't been to a palace you've got to go I didn't imagine Big Ben and Maria it doesn't matter if you live in the am from a castle on a night. Nearly 7068 years this has been the subject and we were still. Talking on the wanted to say somebody on the radio shuttle from. Islam to the us is d.c. Radio. And here in her business I can't believe what a big deal a little snow is I'm from how does feel we really got it bad there I'm talking about waist high she says the sixty's and seventy's we built a massive snowman in January the residue was still around in March now that is cold we loved it we lived to tell the tale my school headmistress warned us that in the event of snow we were all expected to be there if the buses had stopped then walked to school was 7 miles away likely that never happened because guess what the buses did not stop itself of all really people abroad laughing at us I think they'll be laughing north of Watford says Hilary that's good aged Jason Raines Paul Jason what's going on the modem early morning. Probably me show still you know how only a small orange stoic Spirito you don't get enough to carry around not travel people are not weather people using the phrase bitterly cold that's what they keep saying . From leverage to let you know it's. All going to go on and I've seen more war stuff when someone shall do I'd drop the names of whatever is there any some place they shall not mention it they took me 2 hours to do it when it broke off our journey to a small why it was hard and the traffic was solid so it was a lot people were rubber necking because they're just saying a woolly elephant you know our. Job is to wire you for Seibert so so I got a turnout which is how did it happen at any moment. Memory shop is my MacBook you know we only know. The traffic is completely different and you're starting to have no longer road nappies names no need to import most an hour when you go. And it's just. You know you know every I was. Going you know do you need me to talk you through my Has It is John e. This morning of 420 again just to just to put it over with even more than I've already given it do you need me to do that and I will if I have to point your. Word this morning heavy snow absolutely poor in cascading from the sky I come out right I clear the windows I get in the car there's been a gap of what 10 seconds max I cannot see out of my back window the snow is falling that heavily I don't know what to do because I can say I've got to back out and I think if I get out and clear it again it'll just fill up again so what shall I do so I drive out blood can't see a damn thing I'm just hoping it 20 possible is not going to be on the con the road I see you mean that it's been falling all night therefore the roads will be clear the main roads get to the main roads on the 1st con the flipping terrifying Philip told him to eat out there both of them joking I was listening to and charm in the morning you said if you want me to give it some more of the well if you want me to tell it with even more emotion and I will if you want me to I can you realize that doctors vog I mean the whole thing was going on out there I thought I've had worse Cisco What are. My judgment. Because I was not going up to the Internet because. Your neck you were in. The boy. Running and it was for use only. Called because that was what it was like this morning in w.a. That's all I can tell you I couldn't believe I've got there alive I'm still shaking that is Jason Ray's Pogany Shaw having a cornet he's getting a tan he's absolutely having the time of his life out there in the rains but we've had the Croydon this Sunday this morning Tropical people drinking cocktails with plastic parrots floating about in them everyone's having the time of their lives and ringing to say Snow what's known a big deal that may not be your experience I've just heard from Mill Hill in North West London where it is now. A picnic driving at all and people are saying it's all taking a long time and it's all in a pretty precarious and a little bit perilous So you know I mean to big this up are 2 but we are being told by our whether experts here that it's going to be was tomorrow and Friday as well to different story this morning Dave he's photographed some of the most iconic names of the entertainment industry for the last 40 years his pictures are on display in an exhibition called Haggis here is this is going to be a charity auction you can buy prints of these pages of stars David Bowie imprints For example he joins me on the line now hi Dave good morning good morning in the snow in long do you want to like it you want it where are you I've actually north. Korean area it's beautifully sunny and a fresh layer of snow or actually when I woke up are lots of Texan people said oh still doing a photo shoot today we're in a pub Yeah of course we are of course I looked out on the move grind to a halt we actually were postponed our wrap party tonight. Because we were going to have very nice probably incision which probably don't last quite same effect if you're on a roof terrace at the foggers and James I'll tell when it's now and so we're going to postpone it which is good look at the chance to go and see the exhibition for the next 3 weeks there is an e Bay auction today for people want a bit of memorabilia and give to a good course we are raising funds for Teenage Cancer Trust cancer research arm Haven which is a London based charity that I'm involved with. Got a chance of. An argument in the business morning on 3 it's all snowbound ready to bid at the last minute to get a piece of history and this is On w w w dot who gets heroes ha g.i.s. Heroes dot u.k. I've been photographing as we've said stalls icons celebrities and the notorious and the nefarious for many many decades now I don't see them coming I see. See them go I've done many a comeback tour from people talk about interesting isn't it that's interesting some have stayed with us still glimmering and signing in the family and others evaporate very soon as you say almost never to be seen again do you find yourself impressed and excited by celebrity and stardom other any that really stand out for you and I think some of the people you know the 2 classics I mean I've just done the picture that was released with the Rolling Stones and they're in the u.k. Nate you go on tour with them you know you're on tour with the best band in the world and people like David by way you know I was just be in the room and you people would stop talking even though they were very intelligent people they were just in or out of them as a photographer you just got to ready just get on with doing your job you can't be starstruck because you won't be around so I'm in that room and take their picture I'm not the new best friend but I do get to see incredible insights into how the rich and famous live give us some examples what have you seen that we haven't seen what I have just just niceness actually people people that you think probably all of the so nice they are really really quite nice and give back and that's what I'm doing on this really it's about you know you're in a privileged position to actually see and do things you need to take it and put it all in the bank or you have to do something good with it and people like Paul know in South Africa I've seen him go off into the townships not with a camera not with any film crew just taking his family and seeing what happens the other side the world nobody in South Africa can go in the townships know who got killed off is all I mean and it's they just going and doing something good and that that's good to me it's like you needed me to take take take or sometimes give back and you use what you reap during your decades at the top of the tree in terms of celebrity photography etc You've seen it after 2 huge change in photograph change at the beginning it was all reverential it was the celebrity Beazley looking at Hazel was glamorous handsome and fetching and then that became this fashion didn't . As for capturing celebrities looking absolutely ghastly or doing something they shouldn't be doing what she's doing up as they get into taxis and black kind of stuff how have you felt about the change in tone in the change in mood in terms of the job of the Internet by well yes I mean you know you've got the Hollywood portraits of the you know fifty's and sixty's and then it became almost anti past celebrity and my my x. To do that with this is like there's always tomorrow so I wouldn't take a picture so I may take it but I said one publish it if it's going there actually were in a relationship because 40 years at the top is a good long time so you really don't want to be in a situation where your you know you're upset and people and people say the computer say no you're not coming in so I work with a lot of people we work with the p.r. Is everybody has an image nowadays and if you're doing a one on one sessions to maybe it's like everybody has their own look of what they like so if I do a lot of pitches and somebody goes I prefer that one to that one then I'll work with that it's you know I don't we've been replaced by the i Phone a lot of the time so I still feel like I'm very lucky to still be using the camera and then get a living out of it because you know nowadays if some star steps out into Leicester Square premiere that being photographed by 23000 i Phones we've always been see them and also by themselves because of course is that the main yet for the taking of South Face it was opposed netball 3 make it in that bottom half naked in a bathroom makeup off applied in men in their bedroom the half dressed then dress them without you know what they said so I just wanted that are you know we're all day to day what does that mean this is the picture that everybody wants you actually want to see them you know having their. Roles of whatever indiscreet they want to show or whatever it is it's going to mix it to a show where there's no moment that is not snapped of a star Yeah going to dilute they get up to go to bed so does that mean that your role is being eroded to where. Actually does it mean that the whole kind of. Role of the photographer and even the papper at say will be extinct or does it mean that you will more and more glorified in rarified in what you take said it looks different from a selfie I think I think you've got to go with you can't put it back in the box once it's out but I still provide the service with a lot of authors where they say they you know they like what i too but it's not the be all and end all anymore you know abuse sometimes if you're doing a big photo shoot you have to tell all the assistants and all the chaos we just not create this picture so I've actually taken the caught at the back and we worked on it because it's so instant days before 100 police and motorbikes to pick myself up from a film premiere now it's I have a like a. Dongle on Mike cough or 4 g. Would I take a picture and it's back on my kitchen desk to go around the world within minutes 30 seconds a picture can be in America Australia Japan where I work with one of the biggest agencies get him in and on the pitch is just around the world within seconds I think I can safely say I've known you about 25 years Dave and you've never mentioned Joe dongle to me before and in this business that's a good thing it got to be a good thing thank you want to bid on e Bay for one of Dave pictures it's w w w don't hoagies heroes don't you get a puns raise will be demoted to 3 key charges the Teenage Cancer Trust the haven and London and cancer research u.k. Thanks to Dave coming up after this incident was made particularly fathers in law and it spoken about much press not much beyond when really he is about them did anyone say Oh my father in law ladies and gentlemen tell a host of Father no jokes that ever happened maybe your father nor is no joke at all maybe you feel your father knows presence hovering over your marriage in a bad way or maybe your father nor is somehow a benign presence an influence on all of your lives father is in no what do you think of that slits that see what water rises when I simply say Father is in noir. Father nor your father nor yourself do you have a father in law have you been a father nor 020-072-2420 extension 00 the good ones can make all the difference the bad ones Oh dear not so good will be straight back with you after the news or travel in the weather at 9 o'clock. Busy on the m 25 anticlockwise is queuing from Junction 3 for the Swanee and changed was one of the Swans after the most way was closed much earlier on and that was to recover a lorry then clockwise that flow between junction 10 for the whisky and strange and 11 for Chertsey after a collision which has been moved to the hard shoulder on the m 42 lanes remain close southbound tween junction to the Bakken fields and the m $25.00 knots following a collision involving 5 big holes and then on the m one southbound it's down to just one Lane junction a Hemel Hempstead and it's off to a collision so it is taking around an hour and a half to get through those keys. Then on the m 3 there's been a collision northbound between junction 4 for Kambli and 3 for long.