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Than is news at 4 o'clock am North good morning the latest tests on clothing and insulation panels all did in the wake of the grant bell tower fire show that more buildings in England don't comply with current regulations the building was such a stopper Schmidt is checking 6 combinations of materials to see how safe they are the B.B.C.'s Chris Cook says there could be huge implications what we've learned so now it's I was in another test polyethylene called cladding and mineral water which is a sort of known combustible insulation so what that tells you is that polyethylene called cladding is gone so all the $193.00 buildings across England 2 buildings across England that have some kind of polyethylene called cladding on them they will have to be taken down realistically the object reportedly swallowed by Russian Chiles just before he was apprehended by police did not contain an illegal substance according to police watchdog on very fine footage on social media appear to show at least one police officer attempting to restrain the 20 year old on the floor of a shop in East London before he died later in hospital on the 22nd of July Mr Charles death sparked violent clashes with police in Hackney on Friday the average employee would need to work for 160 years to earn what top chief executives in the u.k. Do in one year the average salary for bosses of Britain's largest companies stood at $4500000.00 pounds in 201620 Plumet ports remember that's just the average the highest paid executives in Martin Sorrell of doubly p.p. Well he earned more than $48000000.00 pounds last year the study also found that only a quarter of those. Top companies have signed up to the living wage which commits some to a higher pay level than the minimum wage set by the government and female top executives are paid considerably less than men scientists have developed a gene editing technique which could eventually eradicate thousands of inherited diseases they successfully corrected the d.n.a. Of human embryos to remove inherited heart disorder Professor Robin little badges from the Francis Crick Research Institute there are some nasty genetic diseases such as Huntington's or as in this case but disease affects function and later in life which can basically blight families for many generations so a method of being able to avoid having affected children passing on but effective can be really very important for those families and finally a poll conducted by the British Council says that almost half of British holidaymakers are embarrassed at not being able to speak a foreign language when they travel abroad the survey suggests that a significant proportion of those who go broad felt guilty asking others if they spoke English while many believe it's important to learn a few phrases in the language of the country they are visiting the British Council warned that while it's good that many travelers are willing to have a go at speaking a foreign language too many are still relying on English a line under the weather today will be a much stronger day across Greater London with sunny spells for most of the day although a few light showers all possible maximum temperature 21 degrees Celsius that's 70 degrees Fahrenheit the region London is 3 minutes past for. The sounds of London showings the ex is launching I don't believe that you need to carry a knife to get respect from people right is streaming by 40000 of them sounds like it's a great time to story this is b.b.c. Radio in London. And a very good morning to it is b.b.c. Radio London here and it's Petrie. With you through until 7 o'clock this morning lots to talk about today a few days after the grand for tower fire we will remember that Jamie Colby made the outrageous suggestion this is according to Steven Glover a commentator in the mail the empty homes of rich people in Canton Chelsea should be requisitioned for residents made homeless by the disaster now the labor leaders emotive proposal confirmed our worst fears and this is the cordons this commentates that he doesn't respect private property and he believes the state can help itself to whatever it wants in the cause of redistributing wealth however this commentator goes on to say that I've not got a socialist bone in my body but I would tax the riches and pretty homes now we know I don't know about your area but certainly in my area there is no many empty homes they've been bought almost wholesale these properties these flats largely and are left empty now this has Ferris serious consequences one of course it pushes the price of local homes out of the reach of local people to. Means the sort of bed blocking going on so there's a you know it's of people can't live anywhere because they would live because all empty and 3 in that neighborhood where they set up restaurants and cafes and things like that. The locals own use you know the proper locals in the flats own using them because they know that they don't see into the local economy they buy property in a lot of cases I'm told they don't even pick up the key and this property sits empty So what should we do about the empty properties around London and what about those empty properties Kensington and Chelsea according to the council's figures 1652 properties in the bar of Kensington and Chelsea are listed as occupied. Of these 603 are recorded as having being empty for more than 2 years so I really want to know from you what you think we should do about the empty properties around London I mean if there are $1600.00 just in the bar of Kensington and Chelsea it's hard to imagine how many there could be across the whole of London so what do we do about the empty properties do we insist that people live in them to insist that they rent them can we do that I mean they say these are private properties maybe as somebody said look if you want to buy flattened not live in it that's entirely up to you but it doesn't really seem to do many people any good to have this number of empty properties littering around London there's so many of them. Should people be allowed to buy properties if they're not going to live in them or least rent them out and could you ever see a time where a government gets involved with telling people what to do with their empty properties I mean we already have a situation where older people almost a being bullied out of their 3 or 4 bedroom homes and told to move into a woman bedroom place so they can start blocking houses they can go to families so we already have a situation Ok it's not being legislated but it is already people are being told to move on to move out of a home that that occupying is all of this is a smokescreen for the fact that not enough homes are being built in the right areas is a smokescreen for you know let's attack each other on homeownership instead of actually building homes that people can afford to live in So what do we do about the housing situation across London what is. The solution what is the on to all of these empty properties and for the properties that are under occupied at the moment the people live lived in them for a very long time so I'd like to hear from you on that over 27242000 is the number that you need to call Stephen Davis saying he's not a socialist but he tax the rich is empty homes and you think that is a solution perhaps to tax people whose empty homes and then with that tax build more homes could that be a solution to the housing problem if you're rich enough to live in a 2 or to own a home that you don't even have to live in you didn't have to pick up the key for the now you are rich enough to pay a tax on top of that that will go towards building properties that people will actually live in so housing of course is a toxic issue it is for every single government for the last goodness how many years this is not party political this is across the spectrum and each government says they're going to deal with it and each government fails to do so so what do we do about the empty homes across London. Also this morning. We're losing the neighborhood spirit and I wonder if this is going to do that as well it's very difficult to have neighborhoods fear if you have one the neighbors in it you know he's living there what do you do and I once knew somebody who called him a friend as such but I once knew somebody who lived in the block of flats you know if you're going out of London only. For heading towards the m 4 and there was that big block of flats on the left just as you're going over the flyover car think it was about on. An old sort of thirty's building and he lived in that almost on his own. 3 years nobody else lived that very strange existence. So. What do we do about about another story about the empty homes in it but the u.k. May be facing the slow death of our neighborhoods. Share a couple pledges being launched by social network next door. Chambers who worked as an age to David Cameron warns that the Internet meant that people were globally connected but losing touch with those immediately around us. In the United States and Australia they've created an official national good neighbors day but does it mean you're a good neighbor if you're always popping around for a cup of tea I mean good neighbors of ones that help each other out on occasion and if you need something if I'm going to the dump and a neighbor says can you take that as absolutely no problem if I'm in the House and the postman knocks on the door and says Can you take parcel in phonetic store and say yes no problem so it's not that about being a good neighbor what makes a good neighbor. Seem not hurt is it is it what is it to you what does a good neighbor mean to you. 7 to 2 for 2000 with that as well and give the public acid attack training acid attacks according to this newspaper are so prevalent that the public need to be trained in helping victims does that make you worried does that scare you as Dalton was saying it kind of employees that the possibility of this is now the status quo this is something that we have to get used to you know every day lives that this is something that we need now to be more aware of although Cressida dig met Chief was in. In with n.s.t. Yesterday as I was telling you about says that sadly it's been around for a long time this is what Chris and Dick said about acid attacks made years giving a lot more attention and Except there's been an increase but was playing it down vast majority of attacks between between people who know each other I don't know why that makes it any better and publicity has played a part in increasing fare it rarely happens in a strange time that what you think about that that's what the police chief said so maybe it is a media hype the media storm when in London in Lyon the number of attacks soared from 261 in 2015 to 454 last year that's an increase of 73 percent doctors at the Royal College in Bart's health and it just just said that bystanders who come to the aid of victims need to know what they must do and do it quickly they must remove contaminated clothing and wash off the acid with lots of water which can lessen scarring and the need for plastic surgery they also called for legislation to make the carrying of corrosive substances in the street illegal the number of high profile acid attacks has been increasing in recent years especially in London. And the assailants intention is not to kill but to maim and disfigured curses substances seem to be replaced with caring no eaves bystanders can have an important role in minimizing further injury so does not fill you with dread or does that make you feel. Good but least will know what to do if something bad were to happen so there's a job as are discussing this 17242000 is the number that you need to call in order to have a chat with me in the studio this morning good morning Caney morning how do you know you haven't seen me for a while and a radius and ages up in very well think well I'm getting I've had this awful summer code that has lost her I don't know right now so when does it have a comparable home or it's 2 weeks is a fever took my there was no it no Took my voice everything I was off work I never go off work I wonder if you have a good one day have a go off work I never do I literally have to be dragging my leg behind me did you get any rest or did you have any Yeah I know I couldn't not at rest because when I speak did you know if this command. Bring me any soup or anything with terrible not terribly surprised about Hey listen let's start with talking about the empty homes across London a lot of people now calling for a change in people's ability just to buy a home and leave empty What do you think but I think it's true I mean we should at least be gaining some sort of income as a country from these empty homes there are reading 27000 homes in London are unoccupied of which 20000 Haven't had been vacant as you said for 6 months it's about 11000000000 pounds worth of property not being touched and yeah as you say Kensington has the worst of 1400 homes just literally sitting there and as we know there's homes probably walkers you know some of the must have several bedrooms. Given the housing crisis we're going through the moment you do wonder if we are as a society being as efficient as we could be and like you mentioned the journalist earlier he said of I've not got a socialist bone in my body I mean I don't either frankly but that amount of waste Age is just disgusting and we've got a serious housing crisis at the moment we've got people that know it and live people are being moved out of their homes because it's not safe anymore and yet we have these massive mentions lying in wait for what you know but what can we do with those massive mansions because the people that you're referring to couldn't afford to rent or live in them so so what do we do do we start to requisition houses and say you know go and live in a mansion well if I think there should be some kind of social utility to them if they're not being used for a period of 3 months or more then why not rent the rooms out why not make it beneficial for society and the person that's living there you know renting the rooms out stop squatters except for keeps a property safe for them and actually make some use of it because it's appalling in London in a place where we have a population issue a lack of housing issue you know we need 800000 new homes by 2021 apparently just to meet these kind of demands so we shouldn't be leaving anything laying vacant for something and yet the idea that state can requisition probably that home is distasteful isn't it it is and it is again appalling but I think given the circumstances that you know maybe it would disincentive eyes people from leaving their home vacant for for 6 months or certainly I know the councils of clamp down on you know Council Tax they've made it stricter for people earning a 2nd home you know they've upped taxes but maybe they need to go further their needs to be more taxing on on vacant homes and vacant properties I mean they're what they're pretty happy to tax 2nd bedrooms yet their whole home sitting there doing the thing that's a bit. You know contradictory hypocritical almost given the circumstances are in the moment so I think more needs to be done and I think the government needs to really take this step on that because as you say nobody's going to hand over their home and they shouldn't do it is their house they've paid for They've bought it but we have people who have nowhere to live and I find that appalling as a society that we wouldn't do more to help them or what about the idea of a tax that would be ring fence so you would tax empty homes a percentage so and ring fence that money use that money to to build those homes that we say desperately need or that's a great idea again though how many more homes are we going to build I mean we've got so many vacant ones people now are talking about building on greenbelt land just to meet these requirements I think we need to be more intelligent about the property we have the moment I know councils are very quick to demolish and rebuild with council funds they don't have housing that could you know help a lot of people so I think Wall Street ring fencing is a great idea but again like most ideas impracticality how will that work you know how we're going to do with money how will we be able to monitor exactly where the money's going but maybe it can be used to clear up the brownfield sites because there are plenty of things lies across London that builders are refusing to buy because of the cost of clearing them up so maybe that's another thing I should be in charge of housing you really should because I should be secretary of state for housing I've just come up with 2 blinding ideas completely I mean builders now are so lazy they won't go in and spend what will be an extra 30 percent of overall costs on clearing up around yourself and actually brownfield sites which were leaving and destroying the greenbelt sites it's you know we're going to end up with these mucky horrible sites where children are going to have to stop playing because it's their only hope was it like it's like a gaping mouth isn't it would taste missing sting and there are parts of London that do you look at that be mounted with all those really nice business like this gaping hole of. No asked Eunice writing to discuss and we wonder then where we should put the houses and go straight to the local parks and they are let Yeah chop off 20 percent of the park I mean I don't do a lot on green belt stuff and you know turning into the most layman's terms kind of description there's a lot of all mucky feel that can be fixed before we start talking it's really something like 8 football pitch sizes yet in London and possibly more and also you know no greater London oh yeah you know there's so much land that could be used so it's not being used because the cost of clearing the land it does cost more because they have to get environmental experts to detect the soil they have to make sure the water is clean and eventually they can get there and it takes an extra month or so or however long but I just I've never understood the argument for not spending that extra money and thinking more long term but the problem is a lot London recently has become very short term thinking it's very let's fix the roads and make sure that you know this will save the cyclists or let's do this and they're not really thinking about infrastructure of our great city and joined up thinking yeah so they actually did what they could just come up with another plan or an extension of the plan. Here is to tax empty homes get a bundle of cash that goes to the government the government then clears the brownfield sites and then Sal's the at a premium so they sells that obviously they've spent the money they now become developers to developers Yeah I think it would be happier to pay the extra money for a brownfield site if they didn't have to do the work yet and force them the government to make money back on not only lays been a few years and full and they can also ensure that 30 or 40 percent of the housing is goes to social housing problems all of us just literally solve the housing crisis he would like to vote for patching that you know I just. See this is the thing isn't it it doesn't it doesn't really take much. I mean clearly it doesn't take much longer with an idea like that to come up with ideas that would solve the housing crisis a sick common sense is they see common sense you see a problem find a solution for it and then makes a money on it the government could actually be making money we should then feed back into the clearing other site 20000 vacant homes let's assume that many of those or at least some of them are owned by very wealthy people who I'm sure wouldn't mind paying extra fees to ensure their Her remains on occupied and or you know left alone you know they paid enough for in the 1st place I'm pretty sure they're happy to do that you know as opposed to you know renting them out to people I can see that that's going to be an on say very idea for many people who are in homes but we haven't housing crisis we need to deal with this it's very much like you know we raise the taxes when other people need more money it's not great it's not favorable we don't like it but we're society and as you said with this story about the neighbors we're just getting further away from each other nobody cares about anyone anymore your neighbor one's neighbor could be dying next door and this has happened they found a body the next day I said How come nobody went in for 2 weeks yeah that was weeks later you know that that's a society we're coming sadly and it's not helped by I suppose empty homes and yeah 20000 vacant I am psyched that is insane what 11000000000 pounds a year and we've got housing prices issues and renting issues I mean the rents are so high and yet there are 20000 vacant homes I mean maybe some of those were released back into the market or used at least temporarily for that purpose it would solve a lot of problems but like you said it may be a case that the wealthy people who invest in her arms would be happier to pay a tax levy rather than have the government of the u.s. Allies the u.s. For I many of them a bought $3.00 companies for him the tax levy would be a break in the company finances in a. Nothing so it wouldn't you know perhaps it wouldn't actually end up costing them anything because they could say well look or even if it was called a charity kid donation they don't set it from they are just on a roll right manifesto he writes. So it's not a housing crisis. And I wonder if I've a little of 5 minutes literally 5 minutes and I can see that that would be unworkable someone get to reason on the phone and we'll just move it would just be just tell and just do this and everything will be absolutely fine and they can make money I can't see the point you're going to start a problem where is the issue it's just a cycle of of amazing this. All social pressure really I'm completely wasted as a radio presenter I took tight loads of the time I am now no it was so I talking of neighbors do you recognise this what do you like with your neighbors so I thought I heard you speaking about this and I was like I was taught you know we all know our neighbors of course we do and then I thought we were neighbors I have no idea yeah I've seen them once I think once I commented on how beautiful their child was and they sort of was it what it was they really really was but they sort of looked at me like I was insane and going to steal their child and then they pick picked it up quite quickly and hurried back to the safety of their home and interesting we haven't really seen since although he did I did see her like with the buggy and some shopping I wanted to ask can I help you with your shopping so we live on the 2nd floor and she kind of saw me and started speeding up and I thought that's a terrible thought. So I think they think I'm going to steal their child isn't sad when you I mean I am ice common these days so you Chelsea beautiful and they say these are put their arm around it went. Away even a crazy lady but yeah it's appalling you know we 75 percent of us would not trust our neighbors with our pets when we go on holiday you know that is you know that's quite. Shocking you know back in the day you could just say hey would you mind my cat for a week but I would actually trust my next door neighbor to my left because she's an absolutely I don't remember doing the writing. On the left because she's. Actually depends of that's what I mean side the house by the way neighbors if you're listening just be very clear because she's an absolute animal freak I mean she loves animals and she would be great she mazing she'd be whether I would want to have to have the key to my house you know you know is a different question I would never give anyone the key to my house I hold the keys for one of my neighbors of his house and I and and but I love to go in and Chez if I'm having a dinner party and that's why you don't get the key I will always does the chairs and the car yeah he knows when he gets home in his nature as a that I've had I've gone but I will and I would generally text him and say taking a jazz generally but no always I mean you know when I'm if he's on holiday and then you don't even need to tell who know but I don't go and poke around the house I do you know you just me not to go Yeah you know look through his naked roll when you must and now I've never really just genuinely no interest journalist I mean. She's just saying this if you're a b.s. a Lawyer she's a building I mean oh yeah. I have never been through your naked also vest I can tell you that I'm having a great many. Great. List we all have that have you with a vest nice I don't mean this but just like got to them like I love it or hate I'm down I mean you know I mean if I need to get sad I mean it is a site this is again it's all it's all connected we you know we don't trust the people around us we don't know who's living in the houses next door we this is how vacant homes happen and you don't want to give them our pets we don't want to give them the even the opportunity to show that they're trustworthy yet I think if you asked many people they would expect their neighbors to help them you know of course they should help me book I want is like do nation of organs you know we all want one but nobody will do maybe only Yeah I think I think in my neighborhood were quite good I mean being a dog owner you sort of. Get to know more people of course you start chatting about it all without going to the dog network and. Yeah yeah yeah not that. Good at all the people that you see out and about and so there's often we often sort of chattel say hello or you know there's a very nice feeling yeah him my in my neighborhood and and if there are strange people walking away you tend to notice if there's somebody like a neighborhood where almost an unofficial neighborhood when you talk. To someone in tight knit and and the lot of people have lived certainly in my street for years. You tend to know everybody. I mean there's there are some that stuck up and you know I don't talk to anybody and that's actually fine but yeah I'm not interested in any way that why they think I'd be interested in having a conversation with them in the 1st place but but mostly people it's just a note that it's not like we're in and out of each other's houses if they were in trouble they could ask me and I'd help if there was you know if I was in trouble I could also mean that help but there's not that camaraderie and so I don't but I don't want that now you've got my friend that's sort of you neighbors are not meant to be your friends but you know I think you mentioned in funny ways that in Australia when neighbors become good friends yeah. Yeah what's interesting is my. Partner lives in an ex council flat that he bought and but the rest of the building is very much occupied by people have been there for years and you know he looks after that has to look after his yeah that's he got his roof done then he went to speak to them to make sure he's Ok And they actually worked out an agreement where they'd get a bit of work done to construction was that he do I mean they've gone away now and his sister my partner's sister is living in their flat looking after the cat in the dog he's babysitter their children where they will have plants that they will like continue to lawns you know all over the steps of the. That is a Peabody I don't know actually lived in a people in it was like that but it's just Larry they're all nice and you walk around and Supposedly these are really young safe areas and yet you walk around that ever was like hi you know the kids play out together and I live in sin all buttons you know very bad very green except But nobody talks to anyone nobody's understand here there is this sort of sense of more you know as a sense of my course a side community I think in in council estates that we don't have now that we're losing and it's one of the arguments for not allowing councils to you know demo demolish certain places and then send people out to Birmingham whatever because actually the there are really strong community wanted me to say like in London and there we are we will lose and it's too noticeable because you just you walk in and everyone is so friendly and welcoming in a way I think the mistake in the way we always make is to think of London as a city and it's not it's a collection of a lot it's completely Very much so. 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Radio London and petrol here with you until 7 o'clock reviewing the papers this morning and chatting generally through the news is likely Caney So we've been we've been talking about neighborhood so I'd like to have me on neighborhoods as well but also these this story on acid attacks Nicolette shocking but it's come a little bit. But me I don't quite know what to think about it and that is give the public acid attack training acid attacks are now so prevalent the public needs to be trained to help victims and this is obviously a good thing because yeah we do need to know what to do so close to the bin that have been damaged by the acid you go to take them off immediately and then you've got a poor gallons of water it's not enough just to do a bottle of water over somebody could diluting the ass Yeah it could save their face it could save their fetus. But the worrying thing about this is almost that it. Is something we've got to get used to now does this mean we've got to kind of accept this is part of normal life I think you were saying earlier is this a media created you know issue it is an issue because as you said 261 in 2015 to 450 fall for it accepts he does a huge but actually statistically across you know the u.k. For 54 is the max number I can see why Cresta Dick is sort of very not blogs a about it but almost Yeah this is happening but it's probably not their top priority and whilst they are giving a 1000 police officers which is not very much the means to deal with this I don't think from the way she speaks about it that it's something that they are considering a long term problem of the thing that they're talking about is when she says that the majority of taxes between people who know each other. It's because the gangs a lot of gangs now as a means of control and in my shoes eyeing Britain. And I think you'll find this staggering has the highest number of male on male acid attacks than any other country in the world someone told me that every day that acid attacks mostly affected men and I love to I was like Are you having a laugh honestly have you seen this come. Yes that is true that is true has the highest number of male all male acid attacks than any other country in the world the only obviously acid attacks used in countries like Pakistan and India are usually against women. So that is where that those figures conversation has been traditionally I suppose here the stories that get picked up are usually the ones about attacks against women where it's a family dispute when wrong or a woman has said something to a man and he's reacted that way but the man a man is really interesting that something I mean we've seen that haven't we with the attacks that happened in London the 5 attacks that were yellow mail. And also the attack we believe was an acid attack in Knightsbridge the other night on Monday night. And that again was male on male so it but the president has said is rarely happens in a strange attack so it rarely happens in a stranger attack is what we're being told by the Metropolitan Police Chief I mean I think the fact that it happens between people in gangs doesn't necessarily mean it's a terrible thing you know it is it is considered mean it's yeah but it's horrible it is just because you have to be the guy you don't have to have your face now you know it's like when someone gets raped and they say oh actually she knew the attacker and it's like kind of hair is you know what's the deal in that time. But also then we get volleys as the public and and like you said is only a 1000 police of now got these huge bottles of wine yeah in their cars and so much to do with it I think about it that is the protection is so we're going to do it so we have got to know how to deal with this I think that's important we should it's just like for state I'm shocked sometimes by the few people when I'm in a situation where you need to put someone in the recovery position which actually is happening now at about a rate of once every 8 weeks where I find myself trying to put someone in a recovery mission just in London I was you know you're on the tube and you see someone mostly. People where they're full a nurse or an elderly persons hurt themself or mostly actually homeless people who look dead and I go over and they're not breathing properly or something's gone wrong and nobody would touch them because God forbid you touch somebody that's a bit smelly and in London which is ridiculous but you you know we should know these things we should all know how to do c.p.r. We should all know how to deal with us to tax because God forbid it could be your family member could be someone you're out with and you were the press and that yeah you know has the responsibility of dealing with it but again I don't want to sit here the fear if it does feed the fear I mean that's to say I mean it's a good thing for us all to know how to do all of those things yeah and I mean I had to do it once a King's Cross and people were literally stepping over somebody who was clearly having an epileptic. Freak out they see something unusual they think he was very banging his head on on the through this epilepsy so I you know I to which I can often put it under his head and. Screaming at people they would do anything here if they went and actually I was furious I remember dealing with a guy that had passed out on the Underground and he looked a bit scruffy and I remember a woman saying Can't wait for her Don't touch don't touch him you'll catch something and I honestly thought who think really are you for real but if that man fell over he would expect someone to help him have said and that's the shocker but with the acid attacks I think is really interesting is that we should all be prepared and yet why are people being allowed to carry these corrosive liquids around or even by them why should why is there not some sort of Law Well I mean the there are the moves in parliament now to try and make the carrying of acid the legal and the same as carrying a knife because the reason these gangs are carrying us it now is because it's not legal to carry it so they'll carry that rather than a knife that's being and they're probably easier to get hold of now the star of down a big expensive and you know your home base almost you know any. He was or this cell at the corner store but pound shop was apparently selling it for obviously for a pound was the purpose of that what did you really mean the drawing of course in especially in a kitchen I mean I've used it I've got I think I've got some in the back of my cupboard somewhere but yeah 2 to support down the drain that gets blocked. So you can be you can buy these these things and they are so believably corrosive I mean just all 4 Yeah but but but also the fact that I can just buy some one point I was saying I mean I could pour on my hands I could splash in my face child or anything any I'm going to get it I mean it's just so dangerous Jane just pulled out really aren't people to get access it really is and I mean if they say I'll wear goggles and where most of us and I. Go yeah just about I have talked you know that when you're doing d.i.y. And saying I only have one thing well we will have x. 3. I had an I have a drill one time and I was obsessed with this job I just want to drill holes everywhere I think how am I like exciting they're great so I did jail house for for a while but I didn't do it did I know it's legal in my hand once by mistake it's like oh hold on one of these powers they have a stapler I was like This is amazing put my hand up to post up finger has still got the remote a staple I couldn't could not remove my hand from the war I think this is amazing and so horrific horrific oh my god you do you cool when that happens as well but how can you call to say we'll just leave a man who you know really neighbor please that's the way I was when the neighbors for the last one there may be so useful that's what I learned I just just came into my head I learnt a method of taking a splinter out last night with Splinter Yeah absolutely brilliant absolutely brilliant what you do is you put you put a dab of. Do over the top of it let it stand as and then pill that way Wolf and it pulls a stapler out because it's such a good idea oh my goodness a revelation no. But I get that many staples but of stages but that if that's a good idea how clever is that it is really kind of it's like one of these Buzz Feed articles and it's like 30 things you didn't know you could do things but I read it as genius genius so they can just being helpful you know this is how you 'd know me but maybe I did I got it all going on out here this is obviously what I do with my spare time sleep eat everything save you know how do you even your it's interesting and she's interation Let's speak to Stephen Westray to this morning good morning Steve Hi Good morning how are you I'm good thank you how you yeah. And then I've proven you know. You crime or some fantastic are really larger group stuff about. Second how you know there's there is not a lawyer I'm going to get into power brokers or you know very very simple things to say. You know it. Didn't feel like me. I mean you know. Paper I mean us we're lucky enough to afford a 2nd house when you leave it leave it empty then in an ideal world it would be brilliant if you could not rent it out or to then some group with the help of Ms. Without your son might not know the head about the houses there's not enough thousands populations expand more than we build more houses No I haven't. Even down to taxi someone because I've got enough money to buy a 2nd house or even the search will decide if you're sorry to raise seems a little bit unfair in the respect of ancient Greek ice or some other times in the 21st century on the night in understanding the can be in times gone when you know this is so many 200 years later and we still talk about people being homeless in on the housing on a. More environmentally I mean what you seem a very very good point and that is because you started isn't it the no government has kept up with Jamal and they've all kind of gone you know we need 10000 will build full so they constantly were falling behind on the number of properties that we need so it is going to take some radical thinking I know there are a lot of people particularly when 2nd heads would agree with you. That it's on Saturday the rich father. If it's the 2nd time they don't leave again you could only expect that they could possibly afford a little bit more we're not talking a massive amount on on the start. I'm going on sure quite scary to you from the of the flip side of it but I'm sure I wouldn't mind that in in respect of also if their homes and says you resign there is still if you've got people living in there say vertically that very proud to be looking and looking after their home so the God who runs it would get some benefit from the fact that it's green looked off the plus of people living there they were. Cre look after. The person is lying dormant and there is. No rush yeah the exact state of the we do know that there are issues and I know some people who I am by to lats that they let out a beautiful high and it is it is destroyed says a lot of people who will not want their private home that perhaps they they come to London for business every 3 months for a day or whatever they want to stay there rather than a hotel. They did they're not going to want people in that particular thing use it sporadically. You know they can say well I'm there every month for a week or so in order to block that and these are private homes so we can't force them so that's why I was thinking that perhaps a little tax or a. That goes to clearing brownfield sites for example is the way it is the way forward then they can't get away from it. You know when they buy the house if you see a 2nd behind your barn and the tracks which are still being pressured into where you'd like to get in only a fraction thinking about traction scary cameras no one actually saying how much of that money from the car tax actually starts to service in Nevada and well yeah that's the problem it would have to be ring fenced wouldn't it. And I mean as much as I believe our government on this day. Oh I just also pigs flying speed. You know I mean comments it might not so I won't be able to just poor little rich we can then move back on a scale you know them I'm sorry I know I do understand exactly what you're saying and it would have to be something that was entirely and properly ring fenced and went into a fund that would start to make sure that the empty sites across London was good enough to build on. I do understand exactly what you're saying and trust is a major issue isn't it we've just wouldn't trust them today that yeah absolutely your policy that you're going to you're going to be utopian Yeah banshees president yeah I'm sure I'd be terribly staved to tell you why it's corrupt as old. Brown envelopes every single day I would. But he's honest about it yes than it is the good to see you have a lovely day. I'd be terrible politician absolutely or for I think you'd be great but you're again it's because you're sensible So you know I would vote for it because it's sensible that you know you are saying. I'm an ideas person. I've come up with the ideas and there's somebody else who does the idea I don't think it's a great idea of course that we should totally ringfence money for that using taxes from people in 2nd or 3rd homes big Warpers you know I think that's pretty a pretty good social progressive idea but it will never happen in. May because the politicians of all the 2nd homes but well there you go you know exactly where that interesting Freedom of Information requests Well why is an interesting Freedom of Information press and it was very interesting when Jeremy Corbin was talking about straight after the Graham food fire and he was saying we should you know all of the 2nd homes we should just take away from people and somebody make a comment on a comment by who is now why aren't the politicians offering their 2nd homes you know the ones that they read that we pay for their rent Yeah why don't they for a few months move out of them give the homeless the homes and live in the 1st time absolutely for a couple of months definitely good idea but yeah again that they weren't the 1st of the problem 2nd Like Orleans I mean that duck boat house you know you don't have a housing somebody somebody. Somebody small Yeah you go and live in the land so when you come what you found in the paper say so this is an issue that's been going to few days I'm sure you've done it but it's the super children and it's causing a lot of controversy is this idea that a pioneering genetic technique has been unveiled which can fix a faulty embryo. Or so they say fix the d.n.a. Faulty d.n.a. So the theory is Gene editing so we can cut our d.n.a. From a fertilized egg d.n.a. That would cause potentially cancer or cystic fibrosis and then once this is cut out the m.b.a. Replaces it with health genes or healthy. Cells and therefore the baby is supposedly fixed for life and will not get these inherited diseases and already the arguments being made for the fact that well you know where does and you sort of suddenly decide I want a blue eyed baby I want a sin maybe I want it told baby etc Where is the point we decide we cannot you know genetically modify a child anymore and I don't the line is quite clear that wasn't always me they are now that's what annoys me as well as me no one's going to ever let you pick the color of your your baby's eye I mean they might but I think that the line is very very clear it's about health upset to be there is that is the line if it's about aesthetics No it is about your baby's health Yes but do we trust that will doctors with that power won't take us a brown envelope and go oh you want yeah you want to really blue I mean kid or long brown dark hair yeah sure also that 20 grand will fix you that I can see that happening although there's so much the rich have already been doing that in a way because what the rich are doing is rich ugly old men or rich ugly men marry beautiful women. So they bring into the gene pool beauty is Beauty Genius So we think you get into trouble for saying the other hilarious day swimming funny and I think it was Thailand where a man was divorcing and suing his wife because his 2 kids came out all glee and it turns out she's had so much plastic surgery to make her look beautiful that originally she was you know you might not want to let her do this because it all came out in the wash your Mary Sue. Says it right that's what I say I want your children feel like you're sitting because they're ugly Yeah you mentioned story are you going to say I was 2 years something I think I remember that story she had so much plastic surgery that I actually had genetics when that weren't anything yet dealership and she must've been so frightened as those children grew up when just kind of watch them grow into. A cell thinking oh my God I mean I think you know it's. One of my favorite stories ever Larry's em apart from that there's the fishes spinners I don't know if you find them yeah I'm not really into it on that I don't really know either but it's this crazy has taken over you know schools and they're just saying you spin them in yeah your finger your thumb is that right exactly and actually the theory is much like marbles or Chinese bowls that you kind of use your hand it's supposed to reduce anxiety and distress children and studies have shown that actually doing it for you during moments of stress is a distraction and it can help saying all parents are kind of behind it you know yummy mummies or like get us boxes of them will help our kids with their anxiety issues caused by me. But apparently they're dead they're dangerous they're dangerous so kids are at risk of serious injury from low quality ones that people are buying online or buying abroad that are apparently so sharp edged that they can puncture skin people are being really really injured by them I'm not laughing at us not funny. And don't even realize it so even have started to ban certain sites that are selling very dodgy ones but kids are walking around schools of these sharp edges little play little weapons they easily and then jizz and they have no idea I just thought that was hilarious because everyone's thinking is this kind of new nouveau technique of distressing for young people during the exam period and again it's like we'll deal with the issue of the stress of the source and the fact that when they let you know leaving children with all these exams every year and giving them such high standards to reach as opposed to the kind of little metabolic space that they can say that is it is a bit when I do you know years back in the days in it yeah but I loved the Yeah Yeah Yeahs back in the day and you're probably way too young to remember these but collectors Yeah and they were it was wood to hire anyone to understand their really I'll explain it to you they were to really hard. Attached string like always like color there and touched in the middle I think we do used to collect them I actually have you know really very young and I think people can so dangerous they were little by Princess get through one of those you just yet they were they were I remember in my village because we all had them and see how the string and had 2 balls and you Klak them so you balance and so they get wider and wider Oh yeah and they look like I don't know why they were fun because they really shouldn't have been and and then you could get them to clack at the top and the bottom up Cliff you go white speedy with it if you got like that and then and then obviously if you let it go you could literally kill the enemy there must have been so wrong but there was there was a path that ended that wound around the electricity point on the electric cable that went across the road. And they cause a wound around all the way around and they with I think he has all the eaves and. They might even still be there I mean back there if someone is there. Really just thought Mandeville But yes so they but they were really dangerous as well and I think a lot of toys potentially could be dangerous or the silly little bits I mean my friend had a baby a few months ago and I was just looking at some of the toys and some of them have detachable parts that children can choke on and gel and saw I you know in a very very thin film of containing that and you wonder how safe they are and their toys and what happened to the day when you had a wooden train set I had one of those and it was glorious but you need to if you don't particularly like your friend very much you know they've annoyed you kill their child knows that when I'm done with them I'm really noisy toy that's a great asset arms is safe and it is one person thing and someone bought it for my brother and it drove my mom so mad she buried in the garden and. To this day when you go in our garden. You can sometimes hear that why. Everybody would know what I want to hear and just you start I don't know what's going on. I used to get the if people bought me those toys for my money some I would especially if their bachelor prated after a couple of days or take a back channel get always died bravely love all go through that way and it would end up in the charity shop thinking said someone else doesn't have these very narrow I think it's a rarity that you notice that some of the toys are ridiculous and anyway always actually the worst thing about toys is getting them out of the box. Things this. Is you need a machete I just getting and also opening the back and it's never the right size it's always a little screwdrivers off to anyway so you has anything but doubly about trees why would you ever pay anything but double about you in anything you know I was again a little thing that I was beating the other day and I did it because I only had triple A's Yeah and if you put a bit of tinfoil know in between the AAA and the conductor going away it responds like a double a no way they Petrie's life hacks honestly you're getting so much on the radio honestly this is what I do this is how I spend my time I look at a problem and you find it a solution genius you need to boxes of these AAA is going to like going to do with my tree house here my remote control very rarely runs out What am I going to yeah and so that's what that's genius but I think actually funny enough you say nothing have actually advertised the bacon see for someone to check to citizens from and I assigned to my producer that's what you do and Joan 140 grand a year that is your job preventing microbes from from entering the earth's surface apparently I reckon give me 5 minutes I could come up with this she has a right to. Do it I just give me a bit time to think by. And I'll find a solution to that particular problem and then I'll be ruling the world may not need to be a next move to get the b.b.c. The get the b.b.c. Get it what else have you found so far from that neighbor of you've got the empty house in London I mean there wasn't there wasn't much much going on in the papers I think everyone's been focused on these this neighbor issue whereby everyone wants to know the neighbors nobody does yeah I do like to find interesting so I'm not sure but do you really want to know the neighbors who got some text here. This is from him and he says the rich view property is investment so draconian taxes and all empty property is a 1st step 2nd step would be compulsory purchase and then he says good neighbors are quiet people well he's right I'm Ashley and you know if you have a neighbor hintin to singing karaoke at 4 in the model you know once more in the morning we finished at 11 o'clock at night Ok well she says but it could be quite disruptive I'm sure the ones we were in fact yes I know but it happened so rarely and it was. It was very cheerful was your karaoke tune everyone has one that's their go there was all musicals Oh we didn't know musicals. We like a lot of the calamity we sang a lot Calamity Jane a lot of Calamity Jane what else are we saying blood brothers tell me I love that. I once had one of my but one of my favorite things is Linda Nolan came around to my house on the yeah and we was sat in the in the back garden and she sang because she was in Blood Brothers for a very long time and she sang tell me it's not true in my back garden amazing. That she is such a gorgeous woman such as way home but indeed I love that Wow Well listen that is it that is free and to time here basically is well you know from that to petrol in one form. Yeah I may not have been much of a comparison between my voice and the fabulous voice of Linda Nolan but we gave it a good crack so yeah it's musical and a lot of the Book of Mormon which I don't really want to feel very naughty yet seen it but I know all the songs is supposed to be mazing Yeah I really take it says it expects an agent something pounds about you know if you're going to be serious about $95.00 quid and it's behind a pillar or something being any release the tickets every 3 months so. You don't need. It seems they used to save you could come and stand outside and get maybe reduced price and you know what happened to that you know it's inclusive arts and cultures I think when you've got a show is popular is that when you know get away with it you know it's like Apple don't give discounts look you know they just think that you need to get out I don't need to I am desperate see I'm desperate see the Book of Mormon hint hint anyone anyone anyone else can help me out I'll call my if you have an actual ticket Saqlain I'm free man I take the day off work now did so that I could because going to theater is complete nonsense for me I call do it yeah join the wake it after a Friday or Saturday watching the most expensive. Kind of religion I always choose day Wednesday the best days are higher priced tickets called as we get Sienna Miller Tennessee Williams one. Please be good there's no there's no chance for me I'm afraid but not at the moment anyway you just need to work on saving the world one as well the result you work on saving you know it and pretending I mean the music yeah on the odd Friday on the odd Friday your neighbors must love you. I had a ballet dancer one of the sailors from the ballet singing he's musical in his feet at Definitely no in his voice and the next West End when they singing Well that's clear it was right no it was very cool really sometimes you make a good mix now I may be neighbors I have my friend hearing you know we know you think. The club thank you very much Dr Dre coming in I would sing you out but I need to save my voice yeah you're listening to b.b.c. Radio in London you and I will continue with our conversation in just a few moments time but right now let's catch up with your latest news headlines at 5 o'clock with Jason was a. Good idea with. Going on. This crazy state. Radio or longer. London's knees of 5 I'm Jason Ross I'm the latest tests on padding an insulation panels ordered after the Grenfell tower fire so more buildings don't comply with current regulations the building research establishment checking 6 combinations of materials to see how safe they are our reporter Chris Cook says there could be huge implications what we've learned tonight I was in another test. And mineral water which is a sort of known combustible insulation so what that tells you is that polyethylene called cladding is gone so there $193.00 buildings across England 2 buildings across England that have some kind of polyethylene core clouding on them they will have to be taken down realistically some mental health patients are waiting more than 3 years to be discharged from hospital despite being medically fit to leave figures obtained through Freedom of Information request show hundreds of other people have been waiting for more than 6 months and h.s. 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I am a very good morning to you this is the Radio London and it's a Petri Hoskin here with you through and till 7 o'clock this Thursday morning and we've been talking about housing across the capital and talking about how there are 24000. Empty homes across the capital that sounds 27000 sorry 20000 and not not been lived in for a few months so it's interesting to me that. That number seems to be. A bit low. Certainly low with a nice thought it might be however that is still a lot of homes that are empty and this is sort of come to light really after the Grenfell tower foyer and the revelation that around 1600 properties in the Barra of Kensington and Chelsea are vacant and unused to 603 as recorded of being empty for more than 2 years so I'm asking you really what we do about the properties across London mean they don't really help anybody the way they break up. Neighborhoods they're not good for local shops and things like that because clearly if people aren't living in them they're not buying anything likely so they don't support the local bars work restaurants local shops and they just sort of sitting there and there are people waiting for housing So what do we do a bounce this empty housing is it a case of requisitioning housing I mean these are private homes and by individuals sometimes by funds sometimes by companies but they are nonetheless none of our business in a sense that they are have been bought and they are owned by other people that have belonged to you they don't belong to me I mean Ken Livingstone once said to me I swear we I used to love winding him up it was my favorite sport but Ken Livingstone once said to me that he thinks that all private houses should be requisitioned and taken in to social use every single private house in the country should be removed from individual ownership and given to. The State. And there we have we had quite we had quite a sense of that and I mean examiner where he lives and I know when he moved in so i Phone a calculated what he's made and I said why don't you just sell your house and give the money to the government then if that if you feel so strongly about that it's going to people talk about it don't they but that's that's kind of instance belief and I think it's a very public belief but rather than going that far the idea of requisitioning people's private homes is a difficult I know I did was kind it was done after the 2nd World War was in it but this is a different situation now so what do we do about private homes is it a case of taxing them is it a case of adding a levy to to them on a yearly basis and the idea that I had was take the money from the ring fence it spend that money clearing the brownfield sites of which there are $8.00 has around London it is something that it's over 8 football size. If you lump it all together . Or is in London that could put plenty of housing in but building and developers don't want to clear the land so put the money from the tax payer the land the government then sells the land to developers all cleaned up all clear and a premium puts that money back into getting on and doing the next saw it and therefore you can build on the brownfield sites you can rebuild neighborhoods and make sure those neighborhoods are occupied so that's my idea that's what I think would would work I can't I can't see a downside to that apart from if you own a 2nd time and you're spitting feathers at me right now but. What would you do what should we be doing about the empty properties around London and about the housing crisis that all governments really have landed a sane choice 72242000 is a number you need you can text as well on I want to pull 3 and start with London Oh you can e-mail me Petry p. . Are. B.b.c. Dot you can speak to Stu It is morning good morning lone venture can a generous call good please and is the show for candid sayin that he was a politician and can live a nice guy he's a nice guy he's very idea of a hero though it's good to yoke belts. Yes I used to say of candy had a face for radio and a voice in newspapers. But I would say that truth side I'm not saying. Gee I suppose you could say the same but his poll is boring part of the show it deflated the face of radio. Yeah he's a nice guy he's a nice guy David listen and the thing is with what do we do something such as housing prices to always. Always listen more people is who country is no the hell is it. We have to close doors basically no let anybody and we should done that a long time ago. To have a hell of a sick and this don't just squish avails and you have to have is the structures will for drain the. The schools. Yeah I just yeah. That. The a should electricity generation the gas supplies. The the doctors. Yeah but we know that we're not going to do that we were not going to close the borders I mean as. Lloyd regaled with help it would never get rid of a housing crisis if you push it and then as the State League people sales is that is different on enough democracy we do look we do look ghosted when people trails is wish they paid for but all the kills through the local kills those. Traceable Fiona's and then why the hell is this a lie and say for so long. And what waves and all of a would really. When the proxies were killed yeah but we were looking at problems as perhaps that are all very expensive I don't know if anyone could afford the rent for you all the. Voters have given something. Was a lot for kills a sense of vision favor Lucic you know where 'd the whole of the hose. You know I think they should be taxed they are very big hills of sex but of another time zones all. Well if we keep this section people who feel we've really taken sex even if we don't use services or should chose to procreate is there a careless central ready. To reduce razors a room thing else. But that's a different tact isn't it eyes 2 different eyes the council Yes So we're talking about a times as essential government in order for the central government to be able to afford to solve the how the well actually it was if people buy coiffed really paid for it imperative takes for services which you look very bad when does anybody who doesn't have a child I already pay for services they don't use like schools less income tax you bunches one talking about is another times were they if it already exists in Texas country. We should look at collection taxes to increase in taxes. So say to them and then she Renaissance out we're going to tax you. So incentivize them to run the ranch on their properties though if you know it is response to props which people can't afford to physical listen. People would then sell for the food supply for mortgage prices so we're back to square one them because they're not going to want to rent out their properties for cheap. And they might have all the design of furniture and now an expensive paintings in that it's not going to want to rent. A. 3rd of patients. And so we comes in and destroys the very proper very. Well paid. What happens to people like a Vic pollutions is hated refugees else. Remember this is it but was was proposing fake if you used. To live a did. Precisely. You know those all still has that but this doesn't solve the immediate issue of all my housing crises clearly one of the issues is that is is the land and we've got plenty of buy in London it just needs clearing out so. Our idea is we need to win $62.00 or 3 of a Kempley clearing up a lead and. Relief building then again they never get rigid when having the proper monies to go there did that kid from the overall price of a prop say yeah. So now when it we need to clear out the brownfield sites and start building all men yes no clearer sites I mean I managed I mean in pigs in there as well they did. Definitely less of a good job yeah they can do that and ever say that so I meant to be clearing up the rivers slaves they actually. Killed Trey Doujin for structure. Making Rangers. Risk Lay because the money's Raquel's now to build building the classrooms the soil with the edge of the ones who cause a bit of a red. Filet. Yes So they let their lives like there will be there can be a way forward with. With the housing problem in London but it's just going to take a bit of thinking about is name perhaps getting as it was just in that companies that would be happy to play at the brownfield sites and then they can sell it on there's going to isn't on this incentive for them to do that. A government incentive to make sure that those sites get cleared. I got a text here from feet Good morning Faye Nabors she said I love your flight analogy is spot on those who are saying when you get on a flight don't talk to somebody straight away because in a way you're stuck with them for the next 4 hours talking about their children or whatever it is my kids and I moved from our home 14 years where we have the loveliest neighbors on both sides whom we all seem to have a natural distance respect always friendly and always there favors when needed perfect and now we can all go out and have a real laugh without fear so the because they've moved away from them I'm renting now and I'm meeting my very friendly new neighbors who asked me around for that night to a party they were having in the morning in broad day not I noticed that they had copious amounts of pampas grass on this play for all to see yeah that is a no word of a lie I now tend to smile and look busy and she said Love to me Petrie m.p. For housing thank you so the pump is grass. She mentions by the way. Is that it was revealed in a few weeks ago actually in the newspapers that pompous grass in your front garden is meant to indicate. That your open to share keys. Is a way to put it and perhaps have a little swing if you know what I mean so that. That's what pompous gas is supposed to indicate that was what it used to I'm not saying that if you've got it in your garden that's what it indicates now but if you go to any of garden it might be what people think of you just just a bit of a warning or you're listening to b.b.c. Radio London and for those of you who listen on a regular basis you do know that normally on a Thursday I have my little American friend Laurie lead in the studio while I didn't have her this morning and I know you missed her desperately and that's because she's actually gone to America she's been in England for so long but she's . Actually going to America on a holiday and has graciously said to us that she will do. An American press review now what we've asked her to do is to have a look at the American papers and tell us how we're being perceived over that very good morning to you my little American friend. Yes this is the thing Petri so many weeks I've been your little American I had to pack up and go you had to go you have to have it was it like it's a bit funny because she said I'm going to a foreign country to me but what's it like to be I know in a foreign country not home. Well I'll tell you one thing that's very noticeable is broadband 4 g. Connections are not as good as they are in the u.k. Very noticeable from the moment I stepped foot on American soil some difference there so that makes it a foreign country. But in terms of desperate to speak with so much despair there's been another fracas in the White House press room today but before we get to that. How is the u.k. Being portrayed in the u.s. Press not a lot today the big story. That the big British story today is Prince Philip's retirement and that got a mention in most newscasts not surprising though because I think the American is a very fond of the idea of a of a royal family what have they been saying about him. Absolutely gushing terms they spoke of his sense of duty. The fact that he makes the odd Gath was sort of in the 3rd or 4th paragraph but it talked about his long history of duty his. Is he just the Queen's cost soared or does he really stand for something more in the country very very positive. Positive coverage lauded for his perseverance and sense of duty that sort of line was in it's been in all the papers even down to the Philadelphia. I enquire and I'm staying outside of Philadelphia right now it's a big city 5000000 people but it's not it's not New York it's not l.a. It's not Chicago but even in the Philadelphia Inquirer Prince Philip's stepping back from the stage has got a mention and the coverage has been absolutely glowing and when there was a mention of his. Gaffes it was done in in the way you would speak of a. Beloved uncle who's a who's who's started to age a little bit so. So even the gaffes were covered in very positive terms and quite far down the story that is how much attention does British news get in America generally I know with a big story about our mental health problems in here and that made it into American news isn't that isn't that interesting I think that saying that that's sort of odd is that things that we think are very important. Are Necessary aren't necessarily seen as important here in the u.s. And vice versa I mean that that mental health story in the u.k. To me was. Gosh are we preparing for an election it was it was an opening gambit for a campaign that certainly going to come to my mind sooner rather than later yet the New York Times picked that up and really ran with it and what were they saying. Let me put this in the context Petri of the debate in the u.s. Right now over health care and it put it in the context I think one of the reasons this was picked up is because the Charlie Guard story was covered extensively here . Very very big story in fact I had a friend who was surprised to hear that young Charlie guard was not an American baby that's how extensively it was covered and sure that story was covered from the standpoint in the us. How negative a single payer health care system is Am and single payer is the government picking up the bill for health care to talk about any kind of socialized medicine in the u.s. Just doesn't happen so single payer is. Code for socialized medicine and surely guard was covered within that context and if you remember Petri right through the end of a poor Sharlie guards life Mike tense the vice president weighed in and suggested that his his premier his death was premature and that's what happens when you have a socialized health care system there was no mention of the efforts that that socialized system had made to keep that young boy alive so I think the mental health came on the heels of that when there was a bit of attention on health care in the u.k. And how that compares and contrasts with health care in the u.s. Because health care in the u.s. Is such a hot button issue. It is it is interesting chalets Now I was looking at how some of the American institutions covered Charlie dark and there was also talk about death panels and that was down to having a single. Payer Absolutely and that that term death panels was trotted out when Barack Obama was passing the Affordable Care Act. A 7 or 8 years ago and remember Sarah Palin was the running mate for John McCain 2 elections ago I think if I'm not wrong she popularized that term death panels and that's in the in the American mind death panels mean a state health care system where the states is making decisions as to you know whether your grandmother is going to live or die and it's and it's been drawn in such dramatic terms in the u.s. But certainly the idea of the single payer system Americans are not ready for despite the fact that there are some problems with the with the u.s. System as it is well let's turn to more legit things in the White House and the revolving door there what's in the press right now this story I'm hoping this will translate without the visual what came out of the White House today was Donald Trump trying to throw the attention away from his legislative failures his failure to get any of the big initiatives that he promised through Congress so the day he trotted out a new immigration bill not a new immigration bill he threw his support behind a Senate bill to reduce immigration with a couple of alterations to what this bill essentially will try to do is to cut immigration in half over the next decades and a little bit no you see it as a Petri. But this has become a big issue in the way this will be done is to limit the. The number of family vs. The number of these is that are extended to family members for recent immigrants who may have settled in the u.s. But the way this was presenting it was that more educated and endless speaking. Immigrants will have priority now in a White House aide. Steven Miller presented this in the press room today and the last question on the issue came from a guy called Jim Acosta from c.n.n. Now as you know c.n.n. Jim Acosta specifically has clashed with Donald Trump he's been he's been what is this journalist that was accused of. Circulating big news in the last question in the briefing today Jim a costume vote the the huddled masses that are engraved at the bottom of the Statue of Liberty and asked Steven Miller the the White House aide are you being true to that or are you abandoning that principle and Sam Acosta was treated to a 5 minute ride. From Steven Miller saying that Jim Acosta didn't create didn't really understand. What this bill was about the Jeep custody did say something along the lines of does this mean that only immigrants from English speaking countries say Great Britain or Australia will be welcome and the aide went on and on about don't you know that people speak English in other countries and have not been around the world it was a spectacular sight Petry is it getting press there and you know we have laid I haven't even seen anything on that on that yet but the question I have is really is the point house so antagonistic towards the press. Because the press is at the moment the it is a very good question the press is at the moment the only institution that's attempting to hold the White House to account as we've. Seen Donald Trump when he comes across an enemy tends to strip that enemy of responsibility and ever more staff in the White House he relies so heavily on his family and there are reasons for that is there's a different sort of accountability with family this is why many places have rules against nepotism and so the press are certain corners of the press are continuing to hold the administration to account and that's that's difficult that's difficult for any administration. And it's the pressure of being accused again of lying about is the rushing problem that won't go there absolutely it in the American press this week that's gone away a little bit and I think this was the intention with this immigration bill was to throw attention from the Russia story which will run and run you know look that story could run for a year or or even more by the time Robert Mueller. Conducts his investigation and we don't know how long he'll be in that role and I think this feels to me like an attempt yet again to appeal to the base to some to appeal to his base but to throw attention away from the Russia issue you know which the White House cannot contain There are too many unanswered questions and just for general view if I can on what the American paper will off inking about don't a chump of make this stuff faith in him to get the idea there's embarrassment all pride. I mean I don't get much of this sense of embarrassment yet but it's interesting I think we tend to. View you know covering Donald Trump from abroad we tend to assume that everybody has an opinion and I and I sort of expected to land at in the u.s. They're put in and have Republicans lined up in one corner and Democrats in another . I think we speak about Donald Trump in the u.k. As much as as people do in the u.s. But Petry if you give me another minute there's one more story I want to bring tears to tension before us before you cut me loose this is a fantastic story let the business news on most networks today that a company called 3 square they're based in Wisconsin in the western bit of the states I believe and today they started a new program where they inserted jumps into the hands of employees yet this is instead of keys and cons of editing that so loosely it's replaced it with allows that employee to buy things at the company canteen to log on to the computer in places where you need some kind of id to use the 3rd a copier machine it allows you to do that allows you to go into into doors where in the places where you may have a key card to go through doors. Personally I don't find having to use a key card to go through doors to be all that difficult in the places where I work but I found this to be an extraordinary story and I watched on on Fox news this morning talks News interview deceive of this company. And I listened to him it was a long interview it must have been 7 or 8 minutes and I listened to him and there was nothing that this man said that made me think my gosh this is a wonderful idea the idea of your card essentially your key card being inserted into your spot between your thumb and your forced anger. I'm actually will now it's not a future as planned I like they'd be able to tell exactly what I wasn't doing any particular chart. Absolutely Well they they swear that there's no g.p.s. On us but what will quite say how you hear the cynicism in that. But certainly if your job is to photocopy and they can count how many times you photocopied or what bending machines you can be tracked through more discreet means but it's actually no no no no I'm going to put a tracker on you though so I know where you are. I'm hard just take you always know where I am it's Or Larry it's been an absolute pleasure thank you so much for breaking your holiday to us and we'll chat with you again you had definitely I'd love that our thank you take it and thank. Us correspondent for the for the next few days you listen to b.b.c. Radio London time now is 531. Good morning 111 buildings have now failed the latest fire safety tests ordered in the wake of the fire a grand fould tower examine the cladding in combination with the insulation Rockwall who make the insulation say the test doesn't properly assess their product which they say is noncombustible and has the highest grade for fire resistance worldwide the B.B.C.'s found some mental health patients waiting more than 3 years to be discharged from hospital despite being medically fit to leave and the figures obtained through Freedom of Information requests show hundreds of others who've been waiting more than 6 months the Russian prime minister Dmitri Medvedev has said new sanctions imposed by the United States on Moscow are towns amounts to declaring a full scale trade war he claims it demonstrates the complete impotence of Donald Trump as the president was reluctant to sign the bill but failed to stand up to Congress and the average employee would need to work for 160 years to work on what top chief executives in the u.k. 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Radio London and Petrie Hoskin here with you until 7 o'clock this Thursday morning this morning we've been talking about the empty homes across London an estimated 27000 homes across London are not occupied certainly not on a regular basis in fact in Kensington and Chelsea of course in the last few days we've seen stories according to the council's figures there are 1652 properties in the Barra that are listed as occupied and of these 603 are recorded as having been empty for more than 2 years or so or what do we do about the empty properties across London it's not just about homelessness is it I mean it it creates gaps in neighborhoods and it prevents local shops and restaurants and bars from doing good business so it's sort of multilevel really so how do we come back to the issue of empty Hyams of course these are privately owned by the idea of requisitioning them taking them off people privately and it would be by some people regarded as theft so and the state should keep their noses out if you can afford to buy a house and you're already paying your council tax for not using the services then bought out it's got nothing to do with anybody else or should we be saying to these people that they should pay an extra level of tax so that tax can be used to help build new homes what do you think is the solution to the empty homes crisis all the empty Him situation in London that has a housing crisis 020-722-4200 extension 0 Nigel has called in about this morning I don't really want. Crisis really because it is so interesting according to the mayor wonderful leaders of the he tells us the 20 publishers go to increase by 2000000 without the case and you requisition all these times where the other time you think because. I'm sorry it's a problem to be a together thing. Or go down to the heat and jealousy I'm sorry to say it's got nothing to do with grim faced Paul people who are literally well kill the. Whatever it was they were in most dreadful circumstances and I think that it was because they have anyway I'm sorry to do with whatever we like on the people can buy their own homes I'm 40 pounds and don't provide social housing as an example of my my council tax or my. $300.00 pounds a year Cliff retirement it's. Not just a game to build 20000. Affordable social housing homes in thought but what if there is just the funds were going to increase your chances but 750 pounds like in the 4 that I would agree with really want it so why should you have to play in people who have private homes who are there. Because they have 2 children. No no I'm turning in to be suggesting is that it's that phone that you said this went to 7000 times on a drop in the ocean compared to the number of times that all was quiet but we do have a situation where those lines are required so what are we going to do about it why are they require. When as you just said there is there is there are people on waiting lists on the ring in fear in you know in horrible conditions waiting to get into social housing there are people who call get on the housing ladder there's the old sorts of issues going on no one in terms of housing Ok so you now want to rely on private people to supervise their welfare states Well that's what private people do you know they don't bother people cook proper about it well that's true that's acceleration Yeah I can tell you to be an advocate I thought a big deal about 101 of the morning if you could actually publish it whether it's No you do you pay more for a big car. Ok Ok a little bit more both so what will be the correct yes you do think I will tell you more because I called my company think of the few miles of the few miles of governance in John Smith Susan so was the point is if someone does well in life. First of all anybody when I bought my 1st thing I hate it cost me 79500. 31 right after I don't try to turn it all my life buckled into my own hard work at the end of the day what I want to. Strip down another Yes What I'm suggesting is is that people if they do well why should be paying us today will we if this country has a policy to fight and if anyone does well there seems to be a t. Tell you I'm sorry. I think anybody. Who is cheap enough to leave the mc needs to be physically looked at because a home is a piece of what I mean but you know the cost of it gets in disrepair lots of money to maintain it and you don't have any money sitting there empty and it's all in your pocket draining every single day I'm sorry to say. That there's a healthy shortage so let's say all of a sudden 27000 homes we put in 35000 people where we're. Going to go to this is the car we're going to give you the question you thinking a very narrow time say. If somebody has a 2nd time in London which is not leave. Then then perhaps they should be taxed more even if you know something they could lay off against this maze you know would you ask for the money to be spent in building up behind so it's not a case of just taxing them of taking those homes off them and housing says you 5000 people it's a case of taking money from people who can afford to have an empty hand. And and using it to build you know 10 times. We're going to build these homes brownfield sites where we were a lot of it is about a full picture so I intend to area in London that is a brownfield the brand feel sorry what are we just going to let all the regions but I wouldn't call them and I thought Well hello but there's a little bit of a saying I should say that's not I'm suggesting clearing up the whole ripple site just taking that derelict and turning it into housing not building on cogs Ok let me tell you how many times you and I sides. Will pitch size areas. Hundreds of thousands. So you also need hundreds of thousands of homes that starts with this more than a simple takes I say Yes Why not plant housing because of the mathematics of it did not work out yes it. Doesn't work. I'll be I'm going to go back to the bike if you can I don't know who started the book pages if you do get it and you can tell me tons of ideas of to happen to find it absolutely and if you go up in the sky to it with 50 I don't believe it's actually physically possible I think it's right it's industrial sites in London that are being used Yes I accept that but the point is this when you go to London are you going to tell you for its funding if you have to fortify it's not people's social housing but maybe the possible it's not government going to fund it so. That is not the reality of London for some peculiar reason it's one of those popular cities in the world to live in I don't see why but it is because the roads are played with God We have his pavements arose and it's a utopia the fact that it's not a utopia The point is it's a very very expensive city one. I think the 4th or 5th. I'm sorry that's just not enough space and we say the chances operational are about 2000000 people where are they going to go. To go you know. They had no space for them. 2010 minutes and some are you know are we going to sell all of our all of our rental homes around the capital for them and how many they've got I'm going to show them another 5 sometimes I'm going to go in this. Now you just just raise your hand and say it couldn't work that. Can and nothing's going to happen is No I hopefully I mean the solution what is consolation I'm being constructive because the point I'm suggesting to assess any area where you live if your council says to you. You've been paying $1500.00 pounds the validity of those of social housing we're going to make your council tax I 100 pounds a year you will be very happy you may or may not be able to fold I don't know what your income is none of my concern but the point is there's not enough space in London to build these homes was actually derelict sites like you're suggesting Prine built on a great idea but then then then we had the story 3005 percent of the greenbelt let's build on a temple where does it stop I'm sorry London London is over we can just we the people are not trying to be procedures are just being realistic and the end of the day when I say about what I say about our clients are good reasons but let's have because parks are of course no one ever want to build an object because there are products wonderful sort of thing going joy but the point is there is not enough space in London we are we have this tuned we've got so much office space around with some of that could be perhaps turned into in the having but it's just not enough space it's interesting go to Parliament Hill one day to stand on top and look how many cranes there are driving around London there are so much building going on but unfortunately it's expensive because the lands of our expensive pills and it's expensive and materials are expensive and Labor's expensive there is no real solution unless pick up a sermon and say we're going to build social housing like we did years ago it never got to be so it will never ever be the be. On the people never the the from will never ever be solved I said terrible fact where if you say it's a city we live in. So that's it well Ok well I'm not I mean that I'm just saying that that statement according to figures I just looked at there's enough brownfield land in the in around for 1500000 new homes I'm just trying to figure out how much of that is in London with a b. Good deal of that in London so there is the least brownfield sites around it won't be enough to solve London's housing crisis completely but it's a step forward isn't it it's a move forward if we use up all of that use up all of that land and build houses on it why not. So I don't have an 224-2000. Just I will go through those figures or I'll get Robbie to go through this figures to see how many houses we could build in London on brownfield sites matron is on the line now thank you not you could still she is in a bones Good morning matron Good morning to will you take some advice from a mate if course I will you have a section for nearly 3 weeks now yeah and lastly just as you go 0 you know chemist. And if you can have a tonic because I think reaction. Time Is It will be 2 of them me say a vacuum they will take advantage of you that's a good idea and so it's I take note of it in d. But not be I will do that thank you may try to import because our time they gave me I married a very different I don't. Think of places where they do very good writers or strictly because. Yes of of that. Sort of us a vaccination and I know you are a great chatterbox. A combination of us and I just as I am because I thought of anxiety at times and I find my throat as a result. I find that facts are not always. Check some of it was in the hot water because that is much more beneficial. Water yeah it was tough for me when I'm on the. On the television beside me because warm water keeps you will if you drink cold water you can play just right. Through So I always have. My was fine. But some hot water at night time especially works a treat Oh thank you I will. Have a child I. Have a tonic you know I would if it was not for next week wonderful just I will go and check it out today making sense probably not a bad idea to have a base to of which means basically after you've been ill but I am feeling much better I'm very glad thank you I think I have evacuated. What do you think about the housing Well I think you. Paperwork on this. I've got something that. Is common sense. Can tell you regret it out of a single ball just. To say. They don't you have. Anything I agree with Nigel on the. Rocks a place which I think is such a shame because that could have caused a lot of people yeah I mean I think I think that you made a very good point. Office blocks and and the why why councils are giving Simon. 70 permissions to have these blocks built when the there is not the demand for them at the moment and it would be good spirit if we could turn those into into places places to live I think that makes an awful lot of sense as a big sort of migration from London everyone into the golf course not very good as well yeah well as any because you know I like to have a baby. It's a good book ruined as I can remember he said but the goal of his story but I know they've got. Things in this country if you know you know also tell you about neighbors Yes. Unfortunately you know there's a. Lot of wonderful neighbors is. Very very passionate is just as a. Result of you question. Not being there I used to be m.p. r M p r means. Having you. You know you have very little power and I have a time just I just. Doesn't have even though there. Is I don't I just trust anybody launch Lee make sure he starts a sentence with I'm not being nosy but because that means they all the major love each to thank you so much for your advice I will go to the chemist today and see if I can pick up a tonic I was thinking of gin and tonic but I think that's what you were talking about let's talk to John he's called from Sydney Australia Good morning Joe Hello Patrick herring I'm good how are you yes very well thank you very well could I would scream about your horrible housing issues yeah I do have a similar problem I've been here in Sydney and my come. Money is focused entirely on providing accommodation. And. It's not very difficult to find land to build on where using air right above the railway stations carparks we're building at the moment we're building 500 nurses' units above a 2 story commercial building which boxes in about a $400.00 yard distance to a brand new hospital in that building where they've made no provision for nurses accommodation at all so there are ways around it and the ways to make it affordable are to run a very lean operation. We do the design the developments ourselves and we try and I that get the land for free by negotiating least a rights above government land and we build all our product in China to Australian standards and it's all modular to the beauty of that is you can you can hoist the men over an existing building so the ones we're building above this office block me the hospital the office block itself won't be disturbed at all we're always the minute over the top we're going up 8 floors and we're giving these poor old nurses beautiful apartments $460.00 a week which is about 80 pounds. About 60 percent below market right and it it's just a combination of those various steps taking greed out of the equation can still run a very very healthy business doing this and give back. The accommodation saying they come a day Sion is only for masses and that there's a salary threshold involved as well so we run it through a community housing provider and if the ministers are promoted and they go beyond that threshold they have 6 months to find some alternative. Wow That is amazing and I and this vessel had about every rights was in in America is in New York where where the the air above the building becomes valuable it becomes a place it can be so never heard of that before. You know what you're doing it's fantastic. And the great thing is with the government since it's solving a huge problem for them invariably when we ask for the advice of our government land we get a 99 year lease for a dollar. The token gesture and. Imagine it wants to look at an aerial map of London there are car parks and stations and even building over roadway lines themselves there is so much. I don't think people are really putting their mind to it perhaps we need to come over and give them a hand oh my goodness it sounds like a brilliant thing today why do you do that I just come back to London. To Sydney then but it is a fantastic eye and what you're talking about is is really thinking outside of the box and I saw a building actually on the goto Road in London which might not mean anything to you where they were building accommodation for the students and that was all what Sheila and it was fascinating to watch that go up and then they just put a facade on it and it looks like any other building now but I say containers but you know like the margins were just being stacked on top of each other like bricks and then they disappeared from drilling. I remember what happened in weeks. When or around but the the biggest problem is is greed at the developer and the land and and if you can take that out of the equation the problem solved easily and. I don't think enough people are putting that forward and it is very it is absolutely pretty I'm literally gobsmacked because that sounds like the most perfect solution to build above government buildings do it within the module style that you're talking about have these problems is that everything you've said is that when solution yet everybody wants it and you're still making money as a businessman you know Absolutely because it's starting quantity so typically they will be 4 or $500.00 rooms at a time so we can bring our shipping costs down our supply chain can't stand the time onsite is minimal there's no scaffolding so all those savings go back to the people who need it not to resell it so we're taking all that cream off the top of the cake spreading it to the people in need it what's your company an old. Well we called the old fox steel Fox Yes a lot of it has even got a great are the word or that he was an engineer used to work in Fox's studio in stocks great job Mattia feel for help all that still folks after him and all that what Nascar you all Oh my God Oh Yes And listen I'm so sorry for you Ron because that is the most brilliant solution even beats my solution which was to charge a tax on empty homes to clear the brownfield sites and then to sell the sites on to developers so that even tops mine. Westernmost were doing it already so it does it really does make quite quite easy to solve it's extraordinary and thank you so much for listening and thank you so much of a calling in John is a reopen I just going to keep your number in case we talk about housing again I think if you don't mind we really John said me running an affordable housing company cold steel Fox mazing all of that's the answer in that I listen to b.b.c. 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London's News at 6 am Matthew Schofield 111 high rise buildings have now failed the latest fire safety tests ordered in the wake of the fire at Grunfeld tower they examined the building's cladding in combination with the insulation the company that makes the insulation rock wall says the test doesn't properly assess its product which it says is noncombustible and has the highest grade for fire resistance worldwide Meanwhile the Met Police Commissioner has defended the detectives investigating the fire after survivors and victims' families complained the investigation is moving too slowly and called for people to be arrested I have a fantastic bunch of very professional people who are utterly dedicated to doing the very best investigation that they can on behalf of the coroner to support a public inquiry and of course to give the people most affected by the families the loved ones the answers they are looking for all crested adik were speaking to b.b.c. Radio London said he Nestore a week after Scotland Yard confirmed there are reasonable grounds to suspect that corporate manslaughter offenses may have been committed to a doctor from Romford will appear in court at the end of the month after he was charged with almost $120.00 sexual offenses Scotland Yard says they involve $54.00 alleged victims at a surgery in Hay varying Bara between 242013 mannish Shar who's 47 is accused of 65 counts of assault by penetration 52 counts of sexual assaults and one of sexual assault on a child under 13 the B.B.C.'s found some mental health patients are waiting more than 3 years to be discharged from hospital despite being medically fit to leave the figure. From across the u.k. Show that at least 5 patients have waited more than 1100 days and hundreds more have been waiting more than 6 months the government says the n.h.s. Is investing hundreds of millions of pounds in treating mental health patients in the community sexual health services are at a tipping point according to the body that represents councils local authorities have been responsible for public health services since 2013 but the Local Government Association says budgets have been cut by nearly 10 percent over the last 2 years it's warning patients may have to wait longer to be seen after a significant rise in the numbers seeking help and advice from clinics by around a quarter since 2012 the latest official radio industry audience figures out the Smalling show a record number of people are listening to b.b.c. Radio London between April and June more than 620000 adults tuned in each week almost twice as many as in the previous 3 months and Vanessa Feltz has the highest breakfast audience for more than a decade b.b.c. Radio London's editor is David Roby it's been incredibly demanding few months for London it's really encouraging to see record numbers of people choosing b.b.c. Radio London not only for the big news stories but of everything that happens in is amazing in complexity. And great to see more listeners never to need to Vanessa Hillsborough London's weather plenty of sunshine to come today but also the old shower and staying windy with top temperatures of 21 Celsius 70 Fahrenheit b.b.c. Radio London it's 4 minutes past 6. We just think what makes you think this is London could be the best place to live in far better places in the capital I absolutely love London these days b.b.c. Radio London. S Congratulations to b.b.c. Radio London on there's a record of figures space in the past on our own backs as well this morning Jason wasn't. Changing when you're writing today when I arrived I don't I don't want to take the glory away from me take it she's she's she's done well you know let's not forget that. There's a lot it's like a. I. Wonder that we reflect my parents. Absolutely not listening to b.b.c. Radio London it's Petrie here with you has to act like a normal How did you know I was going to say that. And we've got lots to talk about in the next 55 minutes or so before the glorious Vanessa is here with her breakfast show I we've been talking this morning about housing and asking you for your ideas where we have to how to solve the housing crisis and we just got a phone call from John in Sydney Australia I think it's our 2nd caller we've had from Sydney in from from Australia talking about his business still Fox which creates sort of modular houses in space the space above government buildings so you put modular housing in there and I'm rented out very cheaply to key workers and it sounds like a such a brilliant idea that maybe we need to be thinking more outside the box of housing in London but what would you do about it as a conversation started talking about the empty homes in London and this commentator Stephen Davis saying I've not got a socialist bone in my body but I would tax the rich is empty homes so we've been talking about that this morning is that the solution to the housing crisis if you've got any ideas I don't think anything's going to be John's To be honest but you may have a good idea or 2 or just of how you feel about the housing crisis in London I give school 724-2000 you can text on triple 3 and start with the word London and you can email Petrie p e t r i e at b.b.c. Doc dot u.k. Or talking of buildings more than 100 of them have failed the latest fire safety test setup off to the ground for tower fire 90 of those buildings a local authority or housing association properties were last night the 46th victim of the. If I was identified as 20 year old yes in l. Harvey or Jason Russell is here with more good morning to morning so I mean 111 high rise blocks they use a combination of material which failed the 2nd of the 6 new tests which have been rolled out the recommendation of an independent expert safety panel after the grandfather farm we've been hearing about these over the number of weeks and it confirmed that a class system using many incompetent material as a c.m. Those panels with Apollo 13 and stone wall insulation does not meet current building regulation and vice this is this new test and if the effect to buildings is he said. 90 said to be local 40 or housing association owned or managed cladding samples from all a $111.00 buildings had already failed that initial combustibility tests which were also conducted by the building research establishment they were looking at something different they were looking at these these adamant incompetent interior panels with a polythene filler and stone wall insulation and they don't meet current building regulation guidance experts had previously expressed concerns that material is being tested too severely after hundreds of the sample sent in failed the standards for flammability But last week it was revealed that the combination of materials used on the facades of 82 towers had failed the 1st of the 6 cutting combinations that have been looked out at the moment the new tests involve a 9 me to demonstration wall subjected to a replication of a severe fire in a flat breaking out of a window and that's to see if the flames then spread up the exterior so that's what they're checking for that sort of recreating what happened Gren fell because it's suspected that those a.c.m. Panels on the outside of gram for tower fuel the spread of the of the of the fire. And it kind of acted as as kindling once the fire took coals and so that's what they're testing here they're testing it again and those $111.00 buildings have failed this test but war systems using both combinations have failed at the latest tests and they present a significant fire hazard on buildings over 18 meters according to the Department for Communities and Local Government who are urging building owners now with these failed combinations of materials to put in place a plan to review the cladding system and undertake remedial work in particular to remove cladding they say an obvious option would be to replace existing facades with a wall system where each element. It is of limited combustibility it is warning landlords to act on its issued advice to ensure the safety of residents I don't know where all these buildings are I cannot find a list surely says that we don't know where they are all the people living in them but we remember those that were announced in the 1st couple of weeks after the Grandfather Fire there were a number of them all over London were there but they did I don't have a list I can't find anywhere a list of the I mean I'm sure it exists but we don't have that to have at the moment but I'm sure many of these tabloids are in London that they're talking about here yesterday the Met Police Commissioner across the deck was here b.b.c. Radio London talking on our drive time show about amongst other things and she was talking about the psychological welfare of police officers. Which has never been more important she said with many experiencing some horrendous situations of course in the in the recent months here in London she said her officers have dealt with a series of utterly a riff it things some of our officers attended both the Westminster and London Bridge terror attacks as well as the grand fell tower tragedy so all 3. We know some residents of Graham felt do not have confidence in the place inquiry they don't have much confidence in anything at all and the police inquiry is included in that with a number of grounds for residents saying that they just don't have confidence in it so she was asked about this by Eddie Nestor last night and his her response I have a fantastic bunch of very professional people who are utterly dedicated to doing the very best investigation that they can on behalf of the coroner to support a public inquiry and of course to give the people most affected by that families their loved ones the answers they are looking for we have allocated a very large number of people I've got over 200 people working on it as we speak they have a very high level of skill as good as anybody in the world and they are. Are being extremely thorough they are being extremely respectful they are keeping in touch as best as they possibly can with the people most affected none of us can put ourselves in the shoes of those people none of us can understand how awfully traumatic and horrible it must be so that's Met Police Commissioner Christa Dick talking to Eddie Nestor last hour drive time here on b.b.c. Radio London and all of this comes as we hear more about the victims have been identified 20 year old Yasin our hobby formally identified last night as the $46.00 victims family been paying tribute to him in a statement they said he was a lovable bubbly and caring young man he would lend his hand to anyone who asked for help he was loved by so many and his contagious smile will always be etched on our minds and hearts and you can see is his picture with a big smile 20 years old. Died in the tower fire and the police released this updated list of victims last night also on the list was baby Logan go but he was the stillborn baby was born in hospital on the 14th of June but was recorded by police as a victim of the fire so also on that list there's a total of 24 people who have been formally identified but who have not been named because their families requested they didn't want them to be known so we don't know about the $24.00 people they have been for me identified but they've not been named $46.00 now victims including baby Logan the families of the $46.00 victims have been informed are being supported by specially trained family liaison officers and we do know continue 200 people working on that the moment on site literally inch by inch still searching for evidence of the bodies very difficult of course we've got the Notting Hill Carnival coming up there's going to be a minute's silence at the Notting Hill Carnival at 3 o'clock in the afternoon on the bank holiday Monday president was talking about that as well she was saying that I have I'm not worried about anything else to the Notting Hill carnival this year yeah yeah and there was some cause in there to not not even have the Notting Hill carnival there was some people didn't want that to happen because if it if it was to go because people people have said for many years they don't want it there anymore then they want to be off to somewhere else but the local people in the people who are involved in the knocking on of all do not want it to me from from where it is and they didn't want to have that as an excuse to move it and also I suppose at a time like this it's probably. Particularly in that power good time for people to come together in a in a sort of positive way yes than than the negative negativity in the sort of stain on the bar and on the whole the not in a carnival is a fantastic occasion yes we broadcast to air on b.b.c. Radio London we have a great. Yes There's there's a little bits of sporadic violence here there and everywhere but that happens at lots of things always happens a lot so if we get the majority of the Nazi accountable it's not positive day. I went for the 1st time about 6 or 7 years ago and. Yeah and I went every year since I missed it last year will be back this year sure you will Jason Ross and thank you very much indeed for that for that update it seems b.b.c. Radio London time now 615. We've got destruction delays about 20 minutes for g.w. Our services and prodding and overrunning engineering work and that means the may be fewer services at the moment between Paddington reading in Oxford in Hampton Percy road close between broad lane and station road following accident to the north of Hampton station and Rush are starting to kick in now the highway slow westbound stropping towards Tower Hill we've got the road works there at the junction with Cannon Street Road northbound traffic in the back will tell us of an approach a slow from Black will lay now on the a 13 on the West Bank go through barking central London traffic lights being restored at Piccadilly Circus following the ferry last night old escape street the city still closed southbound from Beech street by the Barbican towards the Museum of London roundabout from going in the Victoria 2 lanes closed southbound on Buckingham Palace Road approaching Grosvenor Gardens for a pass to. Just opposite the one God at Sparks b.b.c. Radio London your next travel at 630. I'm 'd sure got out and when b.b.c. Radio London asked me to cover the 1st thing I ask is Is it going to be my. Security and I just get the best bits where I get to. Well I'd say I'm a natural blonde you can expect laughter talking to people finding out what's going on in London and I'm sure God this is p b c Radio London joining this Sunday from 9 am. And right now b.b.c. Radio London you're with Petrie and I'm here with you until 7 o'clock this Thursday morning we've been talking a lot this morning about housing still taking your calls on not as well to see if you can come up with a solution to the housing problem over London and the other thing we've been talking about this morning is that the u.k. May be facing the slow death of our neighborhoods a former Downing Street Advisors warned as he launched a campaign to encourage people to have a cup of tea and a chat with people in that area so what is it in your view that makes a good neighbor is it somebody who becomes a good friend I could burst into song Hanau but my voice isn't quite up to it so it was cool as well 72242000 well in the meantime disadvantaged children have fallen even further behind at school in the last 10 years New research suggests that by the time they finish secondary school many are educationally 2 years behind other pupils all the analysis by the Education Policy Institute is based on data from all state schools the national pupil database with John Andrews is one of the report's authors and Deputy Head of Research at the p.r.i. And joins me now good morning Joe. So why are we seeing their self to so much money has been poured into into trying to narrow this gap. Well the apparent gaps that exist between disadvantaged peoples and that pays is well established you see in this over the last I last few decades and you say despite continued investment and continued continued focus on disadvantaged people who will not get close to our research finds this over the last 10 years the gap between disadvantaged peoples and this is close to the low point for you months a year that means it's a retained about 50 is before we see an education system where this is a lot of people said achieving the same outcomes as that is what is the what is the root cause of the. While there may be many things we see very often across the country or in London for example we find local authorities are actually the gap is much smaller than nationally we see a gap of 19 months but in some authorities allow them to subject in one's work and tell him that that gap is can be solved and they clean many reasons why London is bucking the trend on that could be the higher funding that London receives it could be the ethnic mix that was in London to some ethnic groups actually achieve higher than white British people and it might be some of the interventions in general in the early 2000 such as the last challenge Arment on the early sponsored academies of the close that gap and then more generally it may be things like quality of teaching and the quality of leadership in our schools and we need to do is make sure that the lessons we failed London and now transfer to other parts of the country the question about why while longer and a choice I highly doubt been troubling edged purchase for a number of years now. It is confusing to use to why this is particularly different in London well along than over the last decade has seen improvements in its outcomes and it's kind of the. Education Research as we often look to London and ask what is it that's going on there that we can move to other parts of the country now as a number of things that go on in London that might be different to other other areas we need to look at the quality of teaching and the quality of leadership whether the funding that London receives is having an interim influence there as well and some of the other more targeted schemes is to undercut on the challenge still there are challenges with his vantage children in London perhaps not as great as outside of London but many people say Look education begins in the high schools cannot do it all does that play into this it'll. That's true we say that actually there's a gap in the time of between disadvantaged peoples and that is evident by the time that people start school to actually 40 percent of the attainment gap that we see by g.c.s.e. Is already evident in the early years or by higher that's what we need one of the things we need to focus on is good car quality child care control disadvantaged people was on food in the hours before they even start school but even this is a parental responsibility as well parents can't just say look I'm not going to do anything with my kid it'll it's up to you to do it somebody else do it somebody else look after the education of my child Well yes I mean obviously there is there's a mixture there is the impact that the school can have and the impact that the home environment can have. As we say that there's this gap in the time that exists between disadvantaged people have and that is before they start before I start school is around 40 percent of the attainment gap between disadvantaged people and their peers is evident by the time or g.c.s.e. We actually see before children of even started school yes there is a river parents don't get involved there's only so much the education and education policy can do. Yes stuff that is true RINGBACK so when we know the things like reading to people's home can help memory there is a time gap so it is going to require effort from always so it's not just the school it's the home environment as well and making sure parents have that support to ensure that those gaps stayed open so that may mean for example a higher quality child care and support in the early years. To help those families are struggling but again you said it high quality in a child catch if it's as simple as reading to children bedtime will get making sure they're interested in in the world around them that has got to start almost. From birth and that has to be done in the home yes we would not we would not the streets after to require this requires after post in the home environment and in school environment but what we do see is that there is a gap that exists between disadvantage and peoples and that is that continues to open during their time in school Good to see John thank you very much indeed John Andres one of the authors of this report the Education Policy Institute put together a report on own education and looking at disadvantaged children having fun and even further behind at school in the past 10 years on their own than does big trend we've been talking about housing this morning this to 2 kids this morning I want to get Yes good morning poetry Are you happy listening through. Your I mean are we probably need a 1000000 social housing units as soon as we can I think the 20000 would you mention 20020 homesteads 27020000 been in longer Well 6 months as well as 27000 the majority of them are probably as I say a luxury so-called a luxury apartment completely on affordable Yeah they've been built for the rich by the rich. But. Even that they were handed over is not going to. Make much thank you know me. But yes of by all means develop maybe the 5 or 8 hectares of problem fields flight which is costly to. Make safe but rather than sorry also a premium so to private developers to build hundreds of young affordable for most people would be far better for the government to keep the government lines. And to build such a hard to sign such housing Malky workers I even have a problem of deciding who is a key welcome but some workers I'm Ok. I think Name the policeman. Carrying stuff more key than most firemen and women well yeah yeah well maybe. Coming over for me to be working 12 hour shifts on a not should be allowed either but yeah you know some of the other 27001 could ask why. These 37000 on affordable development been allowed to be why they've been allowed to be built in the 1st place. You know what is it it's an arduous thing about office blocks is that we have so many office blocks now as well and that they're sitting empty Well I suppose maybe less I mean. But if you really think it's empty. Well you do need to come out of the market I just read in large groups all about. All of our butts. But we could actually have you heard something but you know why we allowed people to buy or not have a lot of in 'd them and they do pay council tax so they are paying something for nothing. But you know as a say it's far. Far bigger than 27000 affordable homes they almost all sing about is all these buildings high wise a fading Meet the Fockers. Don't the dawn of I think the labor that you need a certain saying you know I saw on stage that really tragedy happened in Westminster because of the may well have happened under a Labor council I encountered Yeah we're also going to be saying the same thing then now I mean that is an interesting question and is well in the face across my mind as well is that this or this could have happened anywhere and that actually is there is the worry and it's still good good thank you very much indeed for calling it a good go because Elizabeth see me is with me here in the students tell us what's coming up in the weather I. Think it's going from the sublime to the I know I has an a chest as today's weather is going to be nicer than yesterday's the day why are there days can be quite windy so feel it's quite a time no in that respect I think particularly gusty later on south to mean is that especially plus 3 south westerly winds but it's quite it's not a warm wind but it's no pity he code 100 that say you know idea is quite he made in the sunshine it will quite nice today there will be a little bit of wet weather around in the form of posting light showers to take out to the west and that be mostly this morning stay in if you could if the fine and rain really would be happy to land and I think most places will stay dry mosquito temperatures of around 21 to 20 degrees 7 look nicer than yesterday I'd be nice night and dry lazy around 15 South c. Is tomorrow the winds. A bit lighter and it will be a bit sunnier say again it's looking quite nice I think on Saturday you will have to watch out for some showers I think through the often in my friends sisters get married on Saturdays of that where the full cost of family in my mind there might just be a few showers around but there are also peace and sunny spells and then Sundays looking dry and that's the best day of the weekend I swear to god no it's not about I'm not here on Sunday Guess where I'm going. And I worry yeah if he had all the heat warnings that. He has we should thank you like anything you have a 45 degrees and I thank you and I have to say I was reading the papers this morning and I saw a big page there he said. Forget the summer the nature is telling us that Autumn is here already. For us here yeah yeah absolutely I mean it's they way yesterday I was in it there and however things are going to settle down towards the middle the end of next week we still got Atlanta cast so we're not talking about a heat wave or anything we'll be seeing temperatures in the kind of late mid twenty's I think mid twenty's that's around about where we ship it this time of year say so and yeah quite pleasant actually middle end of next week excellent Elizabeth thank you very much indeed you have to take a family lots of water and I don't I want to survive Italy but you know. Elizabeth Razzi me thank you very much in deed so neighbors let me tell you a little bit more about this as the situation with neighbors in this country was sobbing see the slow death of our neighborhoods and I wonder if that does tie into the properties is very very difficult have a relationship with somebody doesn't live next door isn't it a losing touch with those around us is the problem it would seem and we're supposed to be now having cups of tea with our next door neighbors what to you makes a good next door neighbor somebody that you don't see very often. Or is it someone that your great mates with tell me about your neighbors are up for I think I think it's nice to say hello and know that they're there if you need them but that's probably about 87040000 is the number that you need but right now the time is 630 so let's catch up with the latest news headlines travel and sports starting with Matthew Schofield. Good morning a 111. Blocks of now failed the latest fire safety tests ordered in the wake of the fire a Grunfeld tower which examined the building's cladding in combination with insulation Meanwhile the Met Police Commissioner Cressida Dick has told b.b.c. Radio London the detectives investigating the fire are actually dedicated to doing the very best they can on behalf of the survivors and victims' families many of them have complained the investigation is moving too slowly and that no one's been arrested the n.h.s. Has set up a special helpline for anyone who has concerns about a doctor from Romford who's been charged with almost $120.00 sexual offenses including one against a child aged under 13 Manish Shar who's 47 is due in court at the end of the month accused of sexually assaulting a total of $54.00 people at a practice in havior in Barra between 242013 hundreds of mental health patients are having to wait more than 6 months and a few more than 3 years to be discharged from hospital even though they are medically fit to leave the data was obtained by the b.b.c. Through Freedom of Information requests to mental health providers across the u.k. And the Russian prime minister Dmitri Medvedev has said new sanctions imposed by the United States are tantamount to declaring a full scale trade war he claims it demonstrates the complete impotence of Donald Trump as the president was reluctant to sign the bill but failed to stand up to Congress London's weather mostly dry today plenty of sunshine to come just a few light showers possible staying windy though with top temperatures around 21 Celsius 70 Fahrenheit now with the b.b.c. Radio London travel his paper sparks. Covers the southern Thameslink trains between certain stress and this morning disrupted following a signal problems at the London bound line currently blocked so cancellations and revisions have changed running through those stations and at the moment trains are not call it caution. Bridge junction or east fields we've also got destruction until A's of 20 minutes with us is going slow and Paddington with a reduced service in Paddington reading and Oxford due to some overrunning engineering work heavy traffic building on the anticlockwise m 25 around junction 19 at Watford and clockwise approaching junction 6 Goldston and the usual commuter route starting to build now the a 13 heavy West. The highway slow was sponsored walking towards because you've got the road works at the junction with Common Street Road and northbound traffic on the block will tunnel 7 approach queuing from Blackpool lane slow traffic from the north secular also westbound into the a one of these corner and southbound heading through Park Row into a tree system in the a 40 of us banks b.b.c. Radio London your next travel of course to 7. Year. Drama will have it and it will slice up the sea by actually 5 we tried to we could. Take. E.f.l. Can show you. For the championship nothing against. And d.c. Such as London football. The. Opening game against forest will be live on digital radio through your t.v. At 4.9 f.m. Tomorrow night the lines manager Neil Harris says his is a team to be reckoned with and people would be wrong to write off their chances now they're back in the Championship pushed a little facts into shape their star and fraud in our own forces trust Yes we can enjoy this we're going to go and give an account of myself and a big. Good solid will take that truck wise it's pressure on force Forrester expect it to roll this over the belt things like that mill just car for the playoffs well spent and I'm going to spend money week on the players we're going to sizes what we've got and we should tend to turn them over and we should just point they wish the manager of the England lionesses says his side will thrive under the pressure of playing the host nation in their euro 2017 semi final this evening after beating France for the 1st time since 1974 in the quarter finals Mark Samson says they're ready for the challenge posed by the Netherlands when a position now where we know we've got to produce a massive performance to get a result but I know the players have put a hard working I know they've done everything they possibly can but passion is game and it has a great sense of confidence go and feel feeling like you've prepared really well and you're potentially ready for anything as can get thrown at Neymar as World Record move from Barcelona to Paris Sandra man could be just hours away the $198000000.00 pound fee is more than twice what Manchester United paid you Venters for Paul Pogba to learn more than $3.00 quarters of a 1000000 pounds a week cricket and Ben Stokes insists he's not trying to live up to the reputation of Andrew Flintoff after he was compared to the former England all rounder Stokes was not a man of the match after he scored a century and took 3 wickets in the 3rd Test against South Africa at The Oval but he says he's not fazed by comparisons to others have always said you know and the comparison is the no fly and you know I'm not trying to be anyone else except myself you know as long as I can produce the moments for the team you know swing our way and it means that we're going to win a soul and try to do it end of the day is is just produce certain moments in a game where it can swing our way you know not trying to live up to anyone else's reputation or anything like England lead the 4 match series 21 going into the final Test at Old Trafford which starts tomorrow and the Canadian sprinter who was expected to be one of you same Bolt's main rivals at the world after. 6 championships in London has pulled out on great to Grosse who won bronze in the 100 meters and silver in the 200 at the Rio Olympics as a torn hamstring b.b.c. Radio London at 636. Countries. Radio station b.b.c. Radio. And a very good morning to you it is Petrie here with you through until 7 o'clock when Vanessa will be here with her breakfast actually being in about 10 minutes time to tell us what's coming up on her program the Smalling record figures for Vanessa's breakfast so we're very proud of her. So in the meantime for the average worker in the u.k. It would take 160 years to. This is so scary what a foot c. $100.00 c.e.o. Is paid in just one year. Well to match the yearly wage of the highest paid c smartness or w.p. Is his name it would take the same average u.k. Worker 1718 years to earn the $48000000.00 pound pay packet he received last year say that she would gain the fridge u.k. Work would have to work for 1718 years to earn the $48000000.00 pound pay packet that's a Martin sorrow and last year New research today shows the average c.e.o. In one of these companies takes home $4500000.00 pounds a year for staff and Stern is from the high pay Center which is an independent non party think tank established to monitor pay at the top of the income distribution Stephanie good morning and thank you for coming into the studio hiring how easy is it to find out the pay of these I'm going to say man. Nicely 3 out of 100 a man yes let's just say. 3 out of a 100 bad men is easy to find out because presumably this isn't all pay either there's some of them a bonus says some of it is other you mentioned vast pension a payout so how do we determine receipts will pay it's based on what's now called the single figure and you're quite right it companies only been required to reveal what that number is since 2013 which was some legislation that came in under the last coalition government under under Vince Cable in fact and so it's been quite hard to pin down specific numbers until relatively recently it's what we call the disclosure and transparency in the jargon now and transparency is useful but it does in the 1st instance throw up quite a lot of shocks gender pay gap we've seen recently. Right here it's really sad indeed and so we need to transpose we need the nose but you. It's been quite hard to get the actual numbers until quite recently because presumably again companies cam reveal. The pay structure but they have to also reveal those extras that we know can often bump up a see here salary from from a 1000000 on paper to 4 or 5000000 in reality that's exactly right yes and that's that is what happens there's base pay fixed pay but actually often about a 5th of people are actually getting under a short term incentives so-called longer term incensing there's only 3 to 5 years there are changes all that package which adds up and has to be calculated but now does have to be shown but that's how we get to the the average 3 or 4 and a half and in some case of course the 10s of millions when it when these bonuses and such will kick in so it's interesting isn't it to look at this one man. Who received only saying we see deliberately rather than paid. For $48000000.00 pounds last year and now whilst everybody except that there are people who at sea level they've got a they've got a big job to do the course shareholders particular somewhere like w p p. They have to apiece they have to please I think that. You know I don't think they are thinks of these numbers are just extraordinary and sometimes even ridiculous for as you say the activity is the contribution of one human being this is this weird world of massive massive numbers are saying that even football today with some some is prepared to pay for a single course it won't point 5000000 was part of 200 millions by 200 Neymar from Barcelona and politically we're seeing a reaction to this all around the world with the with the super rich soaring away with these gigantic numbers and the rest of us basically flat without play how looking up and I think if you look at the votes for Trump votes for Briggs and so on even our recent general election I think a lot of people just protesting actually about this. Gap between it is this one percent famously the super rich and everybody else but how how were they demanding the massive salaries Well there's a rather self-serving and closed system where people describe themselves as extraordinary They say their users were talent has been hyperinflation with the word talent in recent years a few people regard themselves as indispensable and unique individuals and as a whole structure in place including I'm afraid you know the headhunters sometimes pay consultants timid boards and passive shareholders who just tolerate it they're just they're almost desensitized to some of these vast numbers and it's gone up and up and this been happening over 20 years as well it's not a sudden development it's happened bit by bit and every so often some of us complain shout about it occasionally there is this year actually in fairness a slight dialing down for the averaging team to send hasn't come down in the face of all this protests and also in anticipation of perhaps some quite severe government intervention which hasn't been ruled out but on the whole the upward trend has been unstoppable and it's just a closed system where the voices and the opinions of ordinary people real people don't really get to be heard you know there are representatives from the workforce on the so-called remuneration committees which is where these numbers are actually set so it always surprises me with these high flies his top one percent is the. Cool incompetence pay that they get that if they turn out to be incompetent if they turn out to be fired and we've seen one recently in the last week to say this claiming 150000000 pounds is owed and they get paid off it goes into their contract that if they're fired they get hundreds of millions of dollars and this is why all this talk of risk is also so flimsy and frankly ludicrous that a lot of the c s I or you know got to understand the risk the personal risk to my reputation and I standing by I'm taking on in this bigger but they are in no lose do. Jobs and it is a gilded existence because there's a golden hello there are golden handcuffs and then there's a golden parachute at the end so it's all gilded it's Gold them it's how do you get interact help well you probably have to rise up the corporation a mass or something called the tournament theory decided that you should be aiming to get to the top and that's not necessarily unhealthy you know Korea's career ladder progression you know most people do want something like this but if you're selfishly fixated on getting to the top are you really worrying about the company are you worrying about your colleagues in the boys or are you actually basically worrying about yourself is another reason why these excessive pay packages at the top I think is so distorting because business is a team activity work is a team where you and I think will happen like you said these egos Perhaps that and the other thing is is that we just envious this is just the politics of end the talk about you know nobody should be able to earn 20 times more higher than the Leveson and in your company is it just we're just a bit jealous then there must be a risk of that I mean any human look at vast numbers you describe you know the summers would have to 160 years when some of these papers of course as a human the reaction say come off how much but I think that's based in a sense of fairness and a sense of justice not envy we would my dream of winning the lottery but we don't necessarily actually want to live like a super rich millionaire flying around and being excluded and cut off from real people known people on an everyday life and as we know from the research actually over certain level of income levels of happiness and satisfaction with your lot in life don't actually tend to change very much both too much and too little money or a problem like to give it a go yes. Hash tag or not on the list. Like to give it a go at her work forever is never ever Nabi and then I could give some to you and I get into that says there's a deal is there 5 thank you so much for coming in to see you Stefan. From the high pay Center an independent no party think tank. Establish to monitor the pay at the very top of the income distribution you will never need to worry about say my name on that you're never ever thank you very much David is b.b.c. Radio London the time now 645. Is a couple of problems on the train in southern and Tenzing service is being sought in streets and are currently disrupted the London bound line is currently blocks with trains that call an open bridge which in Junction on which is Fields understructure expect around 10 o'clock this morning fog and disruption delays of up to 20 minutes for g.w. Our service is between slalom Paddington and is reduced service as a result between Paddington reading and Oxford that's all due to have running engineering work problems in East Finchley on the roads the one for a lot and way is partly blocked it made her own just by Northway gardens following an accident looks like singles and traffic there with the South Bank you back to the North Circular and he's going or whether or not sector itself is slow westbound coming down from the East Finchley cemetery the highway very slow westbound now through walking towards stile not helped by those road works at the junction with Cannon Street Road a 13 on the west bound Bill docking them into barking and northbound traffic on the black hole tunnel southern approach queuing from the Willits Road flyover slow traffic to on the north seculars southbound reading through Pop roll into the hangar lane directory system in the 840 and if you see traffic problems we'd love to hear from you give us a call 7 w. 40000 or tweet us at b.b.c. Travel and that the sparks b.b.c. Radio London your next travel at 7. Is longer. You have spoken and there's nothing better than walking on the Thames in the morning the way between Dawson isn't in. The Chelsea Flower Show you ready thing really came out of the Roxy Primrose Hill looking down at the sky like it was and this is my town this is longer is b.b.c. Radio. And a very good morning to you this is b.b.c. Radio London and it's Petrie here with you until 7 o'clock when of course Vanessa will be here and she's on her way round to the studio now as I speak to come in tell us what's coming up on her program this morning we've been talking about neighbors this morning and I'm asking you really what what makes a good neighbor what do you think makes a good mayor we've got about 10 minutes together like I said So give us a call or 2 or 72242000 this is after the suggestion that our neighborhoods are in peril the u.k. May be facing the slow death of our neighborhood so very dramatic the share a cup of pledge is being known by social net next door neighborhood watch and social cohesion charity charity the challenge Max Chambers who works as an aide to David Cameron warns that the Internet meant that people globally connected but losing touch with those immediately around us all the organizations called on the government to follow examples of the United States and Australia by creating creating an official unofficial national good neighbors day in a 2018 when Mr James left Downing Street to help launch the neighborhood level social network next door in the u.k. Said one way are ever more connected globally through the Internet we're losing touch with those immediately around us and it's clear to us in government that warning lights are flashing when it comes to social cohesion isolation and feelings of belonging So are you prepared to go and have a cup of tea with your next door neighbor or unite little bit at arm's length what makes the best possible neighbor feel you give His go 287242000 say he was me in the studio is Vanessa Feltz Congratulations on your listening thing in the morning thank you very much indeed we are absolutely elated yes breaking figures of all time ever I know. Story I like to think it's because of me I think it is because of you I was just. I was just about to say he was I guess that goes on giving I think you know because you would be not listeners to such a state of appreciation and love you before I come on air they don't leave the station and they I think that's what they tell their friends and relatives so I was coming in to say thank you very much as well because if you come looking to me. That we are so it was only was because of everybody I wrote somewhere and no way could either you or I present it as we do without the team behind us because I would be sitting there just reciting the multiplication table. Dashed lucky on we're not colleagues enough for we are very large but nonetheless for us I'm so pleased he was you got a hell of a time recently in the press as we all know and you deserve to be recognized for the work that you very nice I want to say so I'm assuming when I heard I was absolutely extra was I could you very much for that tell you what we're talking about today on the show 6 weeks off to Grenfell now tests on cloud to get insulation panels so there are still $111.00 buildings the don't comply with current regulations and the government is warning owners of those buildings take immediate action by bringing in interim safety measures to their several I don't he said 1000 people I suppose who can't sleep comfortably in their beds knowing that their buildings are still at risk so we're going to be talking about that the Metropolitan Police commissioner quest to Dick has been reassuring Graham for residents who don't have faith in the peace inquiry that their offices are being extremely thorough and they are keeping in touch as well as they can with the people affected b.b.c. News is revealed some mental health patients waiting this is a most extraordinary figure more than 3 years to be discharged from hospital even though they're fit to leave wow when I can be going wrong they're massive failures because those who may be something yes they will find out what's going on there and firefighters appearing in the i.t.v. Documentary Inside London Fire Brigade are calling on people to join them as a new round of recruitment opens at a time when they need more firefighters I mean he would say this would be one of the times in history when firefighters would be the most appreciative. Isn't it known absolutely that we really do if ever we realize how much we need them which we we should have realized now we really realize say so if anybody thinks they'd be a great fighter it's the most incredible job I know involving courage Atlantis's them living compassion heroism Mazie amazing bravery and mass appreciation for all they do say what a great job to do if you feel equal to skills to do and I was figure out just before you got yes what's your favorite kind of neighbor I love my neighbor how did I do he makes me snow angels when it snows. He's called I kiss him. No no no I do these words I love his wife as well I love his wife Michelle and I love him I love their kids they're really nice they're great neighbors oh let's not get so you like being in 1st day with the exchange interesting gossip over the wall and over the fence you have them around we've been round each once only and years so we're not we don't want her to Nazer is not friends if you know what I mean but we're very friendly neighbors Yeah I think nice is just what I see you don't want to be a lot of the space but very cordial friendly and nice yes if for them if they make you snow a big kiss is appreciative smile keep the noise down these days and a great night for shut down any man going to say thank you very much indeed saving . The 10 minutes time here on b.b.c. Radio and in the meantime over the past 2 years. As Vanessa was saying Actually she's going to be looking into this in more details at least 91 patients have waited more than a year to be discharged from mental health units while the information has been revealed through Freedom of Information requests by the b.b.c. Which also revealed at least 7 patients from elsewhere in the u.k. Were waiting more than 2 years for George Greenwood puts the figures together and joins me on the line now a good morning she George good morning are you there. We seem to have a problem with with George we don't have him on the line let me while he's while we sort that out let me sort out some texts for you these coming in on the on the story that we've just done actually talking about the levels of pay that people are getting is not is so did nothing for a year and nothing for a year it would not make $1.00 iota of difference to our civilization unlike the thousands of workers. Worth of work. Where he has see a meaningful intelligent industry I wouldn't begrudge him a penny and that's to do with that he's setting an ng for here 48000000 pounds last year. And this from Johnny of Brixton says I don't care who earns what but the b.s. Of talent slash work hard is a joke it's odd how many grovel to the wealthy and let's see if George game which is with us now good morning George good morning there you are George just talking about over the past 2 years at least 91 patients have waited more than a year to be discharged from mental health units if you put those figures together for us why are the patients getting stuck in acute really expensive mental health beds. Because the problem is the lack of support accommodation so many patients just don't need to be in acute units anymore because no work for them to move on to to be discharged they need support to continue their recoveries that means they get stuck in these acute units most of these patients could live safely and comfortably in support of the combination community where staff on hand to help them everyday tasks and support were needed is also as you say much cheaper than keeping them in an expensive last word absolutely must be much cheaper so what is the situation like here in London one of London we've seen a few mental health trust very very long delays where patients are stuck in these units but there's no. Put the 2 next to continue the recoveries So for example central north west London Mental Health Trust soar 27 year old patient play for $668.00 days awaiting one of these supported housing placements will start banner at Enfield and herring we trust we saw a 35 year old delay due to speak between health bodies as to who should pay for the care and they were delayed by 575 days and so why isn't there enough of this sort of accommodation the cheaper accommodation the accommodation that supports people away from these acute beds it must be better for them to be in them well indeed one of the problems that experts have raised is the benefit cap and that limits the amount that people can receive in benefits every year another problem for this is that it can make it very difficult for providing to support accommodation survive because they're part funded by benefit claims made by patients and that means there's not enough of this conversation coming coming on line George thank you very much indeed for that and Judge Green with their talking to us b.b.c. Reporter there and I'm like the necessary she's going to be dealing with this more Actually she's going to talking about this situation more in her in her breakfast just coming up it's a it's an extraordinary thing isn't it over the past 2 years at least 91 patients have waited more than a year to be discharged from mental health units and 7 patients from elsewhere in the u.k. Waiting for more than 2 years to get out of these expensive acute. Beds care beds for for mental health situations we always knew there was a problem in mental health in May but that seems to me to be quite extraordinary 7 s. Will be dealing with that situation and talking to you about that in a few moments time get another text here because we've been talking about housing this morning after an article in the mail piqued my interest in this is Stephen Glover has written this this comment pace and he said I'm not going to say she has pain in my body but I'd tax the rich. Empty homes and that's what he thinks is the one of the solutions to the problem across London at the moment we have about 27000 registered empty homes those are homes that have been bought privately and and are not being lived in at the moment so I've been asking you what we should do about the housing crisis across London. Had a very interesting call from a listener in Sydney Australia who works for a charity called Steel Fox and love that name where you know it's not for profit sorry and he builds houses affordable houses for people in Sydney by using the space above government buildings so that space above government buildings and building modular flats and property is that 4 key workers. It just absolutely brilliant color and brilliant idea if you didn't have a listen to it if you didn't hear it then you have go to b.b.c. I Player and have a have a check am head check him out he's absolutely fantastic I think it was about 10 to . 6 this morning and he will go to Texas says depends who else has such an acute housing shortage in London it might be good to bring in legislation to stop the super rich foreign buyers from buying property in this country at all also what about the people like Tony Blair who own maybe 9 properties don't need to be given an extra tax which could be used to build social housing so that's from Charlie said Charlie that pretty much agreeing that it had to tax is a pretty nobody needs. Many houses to live in do they for themselves they really don't listen that's it from me for today whatever you end up doing today I hope you have a very good one I'm back with you tomorrow morning it being Friday last week between 4 and 7 the Nesa fellas is up in a few moments time but right now let's catch up with your latest travel and traffic with Pippa sparks. The b.b.c. 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