But to be the world's 1st minister for Suicide Prevention the Prime Minister's making the announcement to mark World Mental Health Day is a health editor Hugh PEM the health minister Jackie Doyle price will try to ensure every local area has an effective suicide prevention plan it remains the leading cause of death for men under $45.00 new funding will allow the Samaritans helpline to remain free for the next 4 years mental health campaigners gave a cautious welcome but warned that words had to be translated into action tens of thousands of people have been forced to evacuate their homes as hurricane Michel heads towards the Florida coast it strengthened to a Category 3 storm with winds of almost 120 mph Alabama and Georgia have also declared states of emergency the prime minister has been told she could face a voter backlash unless she abandons her checkers plan for leaving the E.U. The BRICS it Secretary Dominic rubs defended trees Mais proposals saying the U.K. Needs to hold its nerve but some Conservative M.P.'s are again urging a rethink the former Minister Steve Baker resigned over the issue earlier this year I'd be amazed if there were not more resignations into circumstances 1st if the withdrawal agreement had a backstop which left the U.K. Indefinitely in either the Customs Union or the U.K.'s internal market that would not deliver and also I think in relation to Checkers has quite a few people who have sort of on the edge of the cliff as one put it to me the boss of R.B.S. Says trust in the bank could take up to a decade to restore its 10 years since it was bailed out by taxpayers it's now returned to profit McKeown says there's still work to do. We repaired the financial strength of the storm and it was our show so we have certainly solved the 2 issues the 2nd places around trust. And we've got a long way to go there and I think it'll take probably another 5 maybe even 10 years to rebuild that to the liberal that would want to debate Donald Trump says his daughter would make a good U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations he excepted the surprise resignation of Nikki Haley who gave no clear reason for her decision the president's been talking about possible replacements I've heard a lot of them I've heard evolved I've heard how good we evolve there's nothing to do with that Bridger's them but I want to tell you the people that know you know that evolved or would be dynamite but. 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How do you put a financial value on a life that's the job of can find by an American attorney who specializes in mediation and dispute resolution that's a fine bags often called in after a major tragedy the side how huge charitable funds raised for members of the public should be distributed and indeed who is eligible so let's take a hypothetical example perhaps not so hypothetical with Eric and Michael bearing on the panhandle of Florida 10000 people affected by severe storm damage how hard is it to deal with compensation when you're looking at these sorts of numbers it's not that difficult judges in juries do it every day in London in the United Kingdom and in the United States what is the nature of the damage if it's if it's wind damage or damage to property the insurance industry knows exactly what the damage component should be that that's not difficult even in a death case judges and juries every day decide valuation of death cases what would the victim have for an overworked life but for the tragedy and pain and suffering or an amount for emotional distress distress. That's that you need a calculator not a Bible The problem is in all of these cases what does make it incredibly difficult is the emotion you're dealing with people in grief whether it's death physical injury image to property damage to livelihood when you deal with vulnerable people. Who are the victims of innocent victims of a horror you bet abrasions self because you're going to hear an earful at what point you called in the ME when the when is it bad that Heinberg has to be called. I get called after policymakers the president of the United States the Congress a governor or mayor when they decide not me when they decide we're going to compensate the victims then they say well who knows how to do that let's ask Ken Feinberg and that's when I get involved I don't decide whether to set up a program others do that I am brought in after they have made that decision and now it's time to figure out how to allocate available funds I'm a business a pretty sharp directory of people who can do this kind of thing when did you 1st get involved in it I 1st got involved in 19 Eighty-Four when there was a huge lawsuit brought 525-0000 Vietnam Veterans Against the 8 chemical Meenie a factual errors of the agent are unsure of a side that was used in Vietnam and they claimed injury due to exposure to that herbicide and the judge brought me in and said 1st I want you to try and settle this case so it doesn't go to trial and secondly once you have the money from a settlement design and administer a compensation program and that was the beginning of my career. 250000 people is a great many and to set up a program like that you'd have to have almost a government agency would you to to again to write the checks how many people in government that you have to do good in order to do this effectively No no you'd be surprised 1st of all. As a result of the Agent Orange settlement the only amount of money I had available to distribute was about $250000000.00 Well the only eligible Vietnam veterans who could receive that money in a check were those who were totally disabled in a wheelchair or bedridden that was about 20000 people 230000 other people there were programs that we set up to help be anonymous advocacy and education and training but the actual compensation the checks only went to $20000.00 people and they each received a maximum of about $20000.00 each when you go into awarding. Compensation that's everybody get the same how do you how do you judge who gets how much. That's a very provocative and interesting question if the claimant is receiving this money as a gift that is they get surrendered no rights they can do whatever they want with the money and it's the is in their discretion to use as they see fit everybody gets the same amount and we saw death case too and the physically injured we pay to penury on how long they've been hospitalized that that's relatively short call it however. In Agent Orange in the 911 Victim Compensation Fund in the B.P. Oil spill fund if you took money that I offered you had to sign a release promising on the dotted line I will not sue I'll take the money from Feinberg and I will surrender any right I have to litigate well when used when you put it that way everybody gets a different amount of money everybody decides for themselves how much they will cept if they're not going to be able to sue so the stockbroker the banker the well heeled lawyer will demand more money than the weight of the busboy the cop the fireman the soldier if you get a lot less they aren't a lot less and it becomes very very divisive and very very provocative and is that there is that is that the American way that is the American way I'm not saying it's fair somebody have a better way I mean if you're saying that the stockbroker and the busboy will get the same all lives are equal Well that's all well and good to say that but you can't expect the stockbroker to accept the same amount as the waiter and sign a release I will not shoot and you can expect the waiter to get the same amount as a stockbroker the public in the United States would would hang in tar and feather me if I tried to do that let me let me bring you to one of the cases that must've been the most testing for you which was to try to the site on. Compensation for executives in the companies that the government took over after the 2008 financial crisis you were you were responsible in a sense for telling them what their take home pay was going to be would say couldn't have enjoyed a tall That's correct they didn't like the way you put it they didn't enjoy it at all in fact I was surprised at the degree of criticism and anger and frustration that I received from these corporate executives I said to them look Congress bailed out your company and they passed a law saying I have to fix your pay well your pay is going to be 50 percent less than it was last year because in looking at your compensation your compensation should be competitive but not exorbitant with others and you overpaid by about 50 percent so I'm cutting your pay by 50 percent well the anger Mr Feinberg How dare you I had nothing to do with this 2800 Anshul debacle and you are now punishing me and I want you to know that my salary is a barometer is a mirror of self worth not family not church not community money and if you cut nice salary by 50 percent you are telling me that my self-worth is 50 percent less how you don't even know what I do you have never met me and I am outraged and it was pretty heated but we did. Other people might say You're lucky you're not in jail because there is quite a lot of I'm going to buy that still isn't there in the sentence sections of the community who use course most of the public agreed with me or said Why only 50 percent cut of 90 percent so I mean you can when you come to realize any time you take on any of these tough assignments brace yourself no one is going to tell you thank you gratitude appreciation understanding never happens Can I ask you about why the most emotionally difficult I think even though there weren't that many plaintiffs which would would have been the families of the Sandy who do things. The primary school the elementary school in Connecticut Do you know how do well that up in the morning again see these guys oh I mean it was very emotional deciding the compensation was very was relatively simple they were all 1st graders 78 years old they didn't have any income so I took about a leaven $1000000.00 knocking was about 8 I took about $8000000.00 that have been privately donated and I divided it equally among the families of the 25 1st graders that wasn't difficult. And I provided a bit more for the one teacher who had been killed as well trying to protect the 1st graders but that was in a very I'm that was a very emotional case but in in terms of compensating families it was it was fairly straightforward say for did you meet them that you meet them all. I did not meet them all I offered to meet any individual I always do this in all of my programs 911 B.P. Oil spill whatever I offer to meet with any individual family or injured victim who wants to come and see me in confidence and most people don't they simply send in the forms they request the compensation I pay it and that's the end of it but occasionally you'll find that the Iraq victims are survivors who want to come and see me not about the money not about the money they won in CA they want to come and see me and either vent about life son Fanous or they come to me to validate the memory of a lost loved one that all addition can be very important and whatever the reason I'll see anybody who so desires. The really big disasters that you want to cope with I suppose Still I suppose 911 affected the most people did the longest tail was the one that took longest to completely say yes 911 was the most difficult for me because of all the traumatic sudden deaths and injuries but that was that that fun was was was designed pursuant to federal law the Congress passed a law that said that the fund would be open and available to 33 months so that was the law by 5 the longest period of time that I have a processed claims for compensation 33 months by law I had no choice in the matter and. That took its toll. I can. Again I mean a can only imagine some of the some of the claims but but here you are dealing with a complete cross-section wherein if you if your compensation goes by income or social value or something you're dealing with everybody from from people who routinely made multimillion dollars to you know firemen who are on you know a very good public salary but nevertheless a public salary every everything is different in course everybody got a different amount of money the very people you are trying to help by providing public taxpayer money to the victims of 911 the very people you're trying to assist based on the formula that the Congress promulgated. Guaranteed to disappoint us anger frustration disappointment guaranteed Mr Feinberg I lost my husband he was a fireman who died at the World Trade Center and you are giving me $2000000.00 less than a stockbroker the greedy stockbroker who died in the World Trade Center how dare you my husband died a hero and you're giving me 2 dogs 2000000 dollars less ma'am I'm giving you 2000000 dollars less because your husband earned 2000000 dollars less to do compared to the stockbroker Well that gets you nowhere if you try and explain that to people who are emotionally spent and you won't get to the beginning of a solution you just have to suck it up and prepare to take the heat. I imagine that you're still dealing with the aftermath of the shootings the Mandalay Bay tell analysts Vegas's is that the case you know all of that money about $30000000.00 was distributed in the bout to 3 months the fund was closed and that's the end of it everybody got the check who is eligible and case closed one very important aspect of these funds to the extent you can start them give everybody a specific deadline to file their claim pay the claim close out the fund to not let it remain open longer than is necessary people have to move on. What about you do you have to move on with this system going to survive. You know the inevitable March of type when when Ken Feinberg no longer can sit in judgment of course never one thing I've learned about all of these farms Never underestimate the charitable impulse of the American people. These Sandy Hook Mandalay Bay private donations unsolicited that are sent from all over the cops to the United States to help the victims it's an amazing thing actually after the Boston marathon bombings a few years ago on Patriots Day in Boston in 60 days the nation individuals provided $61000000.00 for me to distribute another heard of such a thing $61000000.00 from $100000.00 people from around the United States. That's part of the American character I think it goes back to the pure it's. The shining city on a hill and not be revolutionary one day it's charity charity and that was Ken Feinberg the U.S. Lawyer who specializes in mediating extraordinary tragedy Austria's far right Freedom Party led by a heavy smoker Heinz Christian stuff is coming under pressure from campaigners to hold a referendum on banning smoking in bars despite saying that it's committed to direct democracy the freedom party insists that a petition collected just short of 900000 signatures hasn't actually reached his threshold for triggering a referendum Mr Sarkozy made it a condition of joining the governing coalition a bomb that was proposed would dropped which prompted critics to describe Austria as the ass tree of Europe Emily Short types in Berlin I asked her if a lot of people like to smoke in Austin bars yes this is a very emotional issue in Austria I think that when you think about the coffee house culture of Vienna this is something that there's a reason that people feel strongly about this on either side of the issue and yes I I have reported on this issue and many of those interviews were conducted in coffee houses that were quite smoke filled really so they are certain still enjoy a good smoke so yes was it then very unpopular when the previous administration decided to impose a smoking ban. I mean the thing about the ban that was proposed last time is this was a and effectively a bipartisan. Piece of legislation so this was you had both the center right and the center left party coming together on this it was really only once you had this new government coming into place with the center right party under Sebastian courts teaming up with the right wing party the Freedom Party that there was even any question that this would go into place for and why why that there are the right make such a big fuss about the possibility of of a ban on smoking I think it comes back again to this issue of culture I mean this is a party that very much stands for and fights for a more traditional view of Austria and so for them it was something it was a symbolic victory that they could get you know if they're if they're going through coalition talks with the center right party which wanted them to agree to certain things such as being a little bit more pro Europe than they perhaps otherwise might be or in theory trying to tone down on some of their rhetoric this was something that they could get in return this was something that they could take to their supporters and say look we're fighting for this sort of traditional cultural thing and this is something that tangible that they could get that was not so hard for the other side to give them and I'm I'm wondering about the traditional Austrian smoker I mean is he an old cat with a big mustache slightly nicotine stay in this that there is that the cat a typical smoker or does everybody do it to their young do as well. My sense is that it's a pretty it's a pretty universal thing and I think more so than I don't have the numbers in front of me but from what I have read it is one of the most smoking heavy Western European countries and existence and the laws are considerably more lax on those things and pretty much anywhere else in Western Europe shows so it's not unfair if the critics by autobiography are being the ashtray of Europe. Not so much no I think that's a pretty it's a pretty fair characterization here so does that mean that even if the coalition agrees to a referendum has no chance of passing I think that's tough to say I mean what's interesting about this petition that you've seen since earlier this year is that it has taken on kind of a life of its own I mean it's it has it has become not just something for people who oppose the original decision to to get rid of this ban but it but it's also taken on it's become a bit of a bit of a symbolic way to oppose the far right being in government since this is something that they very much pushed for in the coalition agreement so if you are if you are someone who thinks that that the smoking ban should go into effect and should never have been tabled in the 1st place you're supporting it but also if you're someone who doesn't love the fact that you've got a right wing populist party in government you might be supporting it for that reason so I think that it's tough to tell what would happen in that situation but it's taken on a bit greater meaning than just about smoking in bars and restaurants and how far short Are they the supporters of this you know pose for a referendum of actually getting the necessary number of votes to put it into Parliament. Well so the stated the stated requirement or the stated goal was 900000 signatures at the moment they have just over 880000 which again when you think about the population of Austria still a pretty sizable part of the population that has taken part in that has signed on but it's a little bit short of the number that was stated so when you when you are seeing the statements coming now out of the groups that are supporting this petition they're saying we're we're very close and this is something that clearly a lot of people feel strongly about and and should really be considered on a on a wider national level. And that was that was the Austrian journalist there who is. M.R. Shorthouse bring us to half past 3 on digital online smartphones and tablets this is B.B.C. 5 Live for the B.B.C. News we bring in clear Bailey a minister for Suicide Prevention has been appointed by the prime minister is thought to be the 1st roll of its kind in the world around 4 and a half 1000 people take that iron lives in England each year Donald Trump says his daughter Ivanka would be dynamite as the new U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations after the surprise resignation of Nikki Haley but the president says he'd be accused of nepotism if you chose her trees I'm a has been warned that sticking with her checkers plan for breaks it could mean dire consequences for the conservatives at the next election the prime minister says her plan is the only alternative to a no deal brick set and council say music teachers need to pay rise from central government to ensure lessons continue in schools ministers say they're putting an extra 400000000 pounds into arts James Buffett has the Sport England manager Phil Neville has called refereeing standards in his size 11 draw against Australia unacceptable the Lionesses were denied to penalty claims and had a goal wrongly ruled out for offside Northern Ireland manager Michael O'Neill says he's disappointed that Kyle Lafferty has ruled himself out of the nation's league games against Austria and Bosnia Herzegovina O'Neill said the Rangers strike a contacted him over the weekend to inform him of the surprise absence in boxing Billy Joe Saunders has been refused a license to defend his W B O middleweight title against Demetrius on driveway because of an adverse drug test the W B O is yet to comment but there is a chance Saunders could lose his title and British showjumper Jack Whittaker has won a silver medal at the Youth Olympics and when I say Aries 34 years after his father Michael achieved the same thing. Yes at the Los Angeles Games. Which means crawl free. Like. The finest Phineas and the best law school this is B.B.C. 5. 6 with shop. Was being referred to as the grievance studies affairs 3 academics have revealed that they spent a year deliberately submitting nonsense articles to academic journals James Lindsay Peter because Ian and Helen pluck Rose sent papers to establish magazines on various topics which were related to cultural studies they say their name was to show how even absurd papers could be published as legitimate research if they included what the team called Marley fashionable political ideas. Helen pluck Rose is the editor of Aereo reporters a magazine of literature and one of those involved in the project and I asked her to explain why they did it only 3 of us in in different ways or another have been addressing problems that we see in the stimulus gene in how we know what's true and in liberal ethics recently so we did we've done this quite explicitly Peter this earth or last James is a mathematician I look at some ideological history we've written about the problem we see with people rejecting objective truth with the idea of cultural culturally constructed truth that work in the service of power so you're struggling with there's just as the news businesses I mean you're struggling with the equivalent of fake news when it comes to academia. Indeed yes and there is strong correlation between the postmodern an academic side of many narratives and personal truth and multiple truths and the growing acceptance of all fake news so we have spoken about this before and having sort of addressed it explicitly so much we're finding that the people who see the problem most a lot all know who the people see the symptoms of the problem they they see this whole sort of idea of power structures that only certain people can talk about certain things ideas of them toxic masculinity and white fragility but they're not so clear on where they're coming from and on the other side we have the sort of sensible let leftist academics who are not quite convinced that we have a serious problem going on among us and so this was the cause of the project we're going to get into the roots of it we're going to take the existing scholarship that's there and apply some very specific things that we're worried about to it to get them to accept them and therefore show that yes this is what is being acceptable and not only what is acceptable in these sort of small areas about density studies but actually required. Just so that everybody's on board with a slogan let's get you an example because you prepared 20 years to get good and he wrote agreement 3 academic papers for peer review to different social science journals and you've had 7 accepted today could you give us the title of one that you were particularly pleased with. Our flagship paper as we call it that when the joke's on you it's probably the most in-depth looking at the problem because it essentially argues that there is no correct way to criticize. Social Justice Scalia shit that any attempt to criticize it or to satirize it is just an attempt to push back to preserve privilege and so that that one I think is is the one that we feel most covers most but of course what people are most interested in are the silly ones the dog park paper in which we claims that our scholar spent a 1000 hours tactfully examining the genitals of a dog that a dog park whilst questioning their owners about their sexuality and by observing human reactions to all unwanted humping they were able to discern that culture patriarchy and homophobia are very prevalent in human society and it recommended training men perhaps in the same way as we train dogs out of their RAM message an A in business. Who accepted this paper which journal was it acceptable for the dog kind of pay to do gender place it's cultural I think of gender place in society it's called it's there it's a feminist graphy It's the top feminist joke graphy Journal gender as a person would have this would have a reasonably substantial circulation among female academics would it. It will it yes when you get to the intersection of feminism and with geography at least the top general where we're feminist younger affairs are aiming their work at we didn't have the problem with geography I don't know if there are earth why the problems in that field but with the grievance studies approach to it and that's what's consistent throughout so also we. Publish something in the social work journal affiliate social work itself I'm sure it's mostly very Found Sound that when we get a feminist queer theory critical race theory into it then we get a kind of strange corruption and and a lot of a lack of evidence and soundness now you know you mentioned that term there was a really interesting grievance studies is grieving studies are actually part of the academy or assess is this a field which you have somehow the tech to. It yeah we have invented that name people usually talk about identity studies cultural studies media studies a cluster of. Studies looking at culture and identities within culture from the social justice speak to them and when we say social justice I'm not talking about normal sort of you know a human rights liberal think that this is something rather ironic you know nothing ideas and going through related school you know physical theory we have called that sort of cluster of identity studies recent studies on the cultural it's the civic pride I think we're being pretty modern in terms of all humans of our families really marginalization bad because men will fantasize about you know it sounds how to minimize like another one of our behavior has a degree of of self interest in some of these areas of study as some kind of justification for feeling hard done by. People who just don't write the 10000 paper word paper about it is that is that unfair. I you're asking if I might ask you if in a sense I mean for us to understand this and to and to make sense of it it does sound as if you know there are there are perfectly is sound academics out there who nevertheless have kind of gone for things that they feel passionately upset about and then write a paper to justify the position. Oh yes there are perfectly sound academics out there who are concerned about women's rights and D.P.T. Rights and racial equality Excedrin they're doing very very sound work this is these are the important issues which really need to be addressed with some epistemological Reka and with some consistent death ICS So we are not at all criticizing scholarship which is looking at important social issues we are criticizing the way a certain branch is looking at them at the moment and because this is very difficult for people to see I mean we all tend to think but this is about women's rights this is about BT rights this is this is that the civil rights movement it's got to be good but in fact it isn't the way that this kind of post-modern approach is going at it is is very unsound and we have wanted to demonstrate that by writing completely on sound papers drawing on hundreds of papers already published many of them very influential and getting them published in journals so we can then say Yes look this is the problem trying to convince some of the academics who are still still very very motivated to support that scholarship because of their good intentions to support a social just this inner true sense and and that would that therefore helps us understand the Hooters paper which is about the restaurant in which you know female staff have big breasts and it's untitled and I thought are free and ethnography of breast or aren't masculinity themes of object and think ation sexual conquest male control and masculine toughness in a sexually objectifying restaurant we can all understand that Hooters as a sexual object fire restaurant so. How did the people at the Journal but accept that this paper feel when they when they realize that you had been using them if you like to make this point. We haven't heard from them yet. And I don't know if they if they're planning to have a think about it and write something that we haven't heard specifically from so many of them yet we heard from a few people who are involved in the field who are reviewers and they have criticized us for wasting time wasting their time and not being honest about who we were but I feel that the latter one at least is a bit of a cop out it shouldn't really matter who has written a paper or what it whether or not they were sincere it should matter whether the paper is sound or not if we want to look for example at female objectification we would need to do that rigorously we could not do as our hooches paper did 1st of all appear mystified as to why heterosexual men might be attracted to scantily clad and attractive women and conclude that it's because of their patriarchy and a wish to to dominate women but actually look at least a bit more rigorously find out if there is a problem and to the women feel there's a problem there and and look at it look at it properly. Are they are your own careers in some jeopardy of the moment because of this I mean are you worried about the fact that it has made it into the mainstream media and there are so much discussion though about this by people who don't have any sympathy for you know various areas of academic study. Yet there's Peter Peter is the one who is at most at risk he's still working in a university James and I work more independently have careers are not directly and in any jeopardy although my magazine that I did has been somewhat defamed and there's also I think a 2nd point that that you raise there that our work could be taken in support of sort of right wing anti intellectual anti equality and and that is something that we have been quite concerned about when we've when we started the project so before we did it we have put her out a number of papers about the diff defending the university defending scholarship against right wing populism how we how to how strengthening studies will strengthen the university that to criticize and improve. Aspects of scholarship is very different to this kind of Hunter actual they're all mad they're not producing anything useful and the expertise rhetoric what's going on at the moment to cutouts complete nonsense and unethical nonsense studies is the thing which will strengthen right wing anti intellectual and anti equality narratives so I don't I think we have to find a balance in this we have sympathetic to people who say that aren't you going into the into right wing hands but we think at group we are not we have to fix this problem if we want to protect the universities and I don't have any any academics come to your a basic I mean one are very academic way of sorting those might be to have a conference with the and discuss the methodology is that that you've brought up here. It would about Unfortunately at the moment that isn't possible we are in a couple of weeks not the play we have with a mission and some screenshots of messages that we have from academics who say that they will be there in much agree with us that they support what we've done that they wish they could support us in their own work that they are afraid for their jobs so what we're I'm I'm actually starting to think about now is because at the sheer number of days that jet is that I've got is setting up kind of a private forum in which academics working with them fields of the social sciences and humanities who are concerned about this sort of postmodern critical theory approach to their fields can join they can discover each other or other people in their own institutions ideally as well but also just discover how many there are I think if people people at the moment are afraid to to be considered racist or sexist or homophobic or transphobia if they say I don't think this scholarship into identity is is sound but if they knew how many of them there were I think there would be they would be emboldened to speak out more we could encourage and support each other and hopefully kind of addressed the problem that we're having within really important fields of study and I can imagine this as a sort of a technologically closed group you know which to which you have to get a password or something to join But given given your interest in the truth you're going to be awfully on your guard aren't you for frauds you know for people who who claim to be something that they're not yes a bit people could could let me chime in infiltrate the group and I'm not sure what we would what we would do about that we would have to. I think I think it's certainly certainly worth trying and yes if people can join with anonymous accounts whatever and talk to each other and realize how many there are yet to take take the risk I'd like to see more people take the risk but I absolutely understand why they why they don't and the words opening can of worms never appear and then you're thinking this through the I think I think that can of worms it's rivaling about it's infecting far more than just the Academy it's come out of the academy now and it's affecting the way we see trees the way we see identity and social justice that that can of worms is writing and it needs cleaning out. That's Helen pluck Rose and her best known paper which is not as not a spoof by any means is say how French intellectuals ruin the West postmodernism and its impact explained well that's what the papers Moshe we. Were going to join Michael Booker at the Daily Express we've got record numbers of young adults being forced to continue all return to living with their parents at all remember I don't know if you remember the sitcom story in the eighty's with Ronnie Corbett about Timothy lawns and the stay at home with his parents up until his 4 is well it appears we're a nation of him more than a quarter of those in the age group $20.00 to $34.00 and now living at home with moms and dads and they were unable or unwilling to pay the high rent so large mortgage payments it's increased the number at a rate of around $5.00 and a half 1000 every single month of the last 15 years so at the moment just $3400000.00 young adults sharing the parental home which is 26 percent of that age group in 2002 it was just 2400000 so it's shot up Tom Gatson who is a co-founder of AFLAC share website says the cost of living is biting many young people in the numbers moving back in with their parents is on the rise London in the southeast of the most young people living back home with more than a 1000000 still living with their parents but Northern Ireland has the biggest proportion of young adults who have done it and with more than one in 3 still living with mom and dad so you can see the problem really bad average house price now is about 231000. In that was I think from July which is $6000.00 pounds higher than it was in July last year so even though I think the cooling down house price was wise it does seem to be still pretty much out of reach for many people to get on the property ladder so it doesn't seem to be getting any better but at least you get your socks washed. Pushing OK Well let's let's turn to the World Health Organization which is having a big push on noise. Yeah there's a report out today that claims that from them says that 61000 healthy years of life are lost every year from heart disease alone because of environmental noise in Western Europe there's noise from traffic Akram concerts night clubs which I wouldn't shed any tears if they're all closed down and even fitness classes posing a serious and long lasting threat to both physical and mental health the warning this is. In Bahrain Switzerland today when they unveiled their findings they say younger people are particularly risk from loud music and the racket from sports events and fitness classes have a Cox who is the Professor of acoustical engineering at the University of Seoul for it has commented on the findings and he says it's time we all walk up to the impact it's having on our health we all know what it's like if we don't have enough sleep we get Croce things like the boys' schools and their flight paths learning of children is shown to be less the definite health effects of too much noise so the W.H.O. Are drawing up some guidelines on the amount of decibels we should be exposed to each day railway noise shouldn't exceed $54.00 decibel Zz leasure noise should be below 70 decibels so it seems to be an increasing problem in it it does appear to be killing us but. The World Health Organizations Dr Susanna jackal she says we need to act now more of the calls to loud nightclubs and concerts to protect our health and as I said before closing down nightclubs which I've never really enjoyed would be a fantastic thing for the world yet Express readers would go for that one who was sure. Now the head of the Russian. Secret police the G.R.U. Which not of us at out of until the script our pies and came along has mysteriously had to take a bit of a rest what's going on yes yes Colonel General. Go Cora ball he's the head of the spy agency the G.R.U. Now he got a bit of a telling off from the Russian president in the stand by the mere Putin. Hasn't particularly enjoyed the headlines recently following the fallout from the script our investigation in particular the own masking of 2 Russians and those that were just I think sports nutritionists who are wondering well sold Britain not in fact poisonous now they've now been on mast with the help of the Belling investigative journalism website The latest came a couple of days ago when it was revealed that they were one of them was called Alexander Nish can then he was personally presented with a hero of the Russian Federation award by the Kremlin chief himself now subsequently to that as I say it Mr Putin's got quite angry and given a dressing down to Colonel General Eagle Kora both and the 62 year old all of a sudden has become very ill so I think his future isn't entirely certain with the G.R.U. And we may be seeing a new had very very soon now tells his lovely story about a couple who got married and they were very happy and they went off on a honeymoon. Yeah they went off on holy men to Srilanka their 3 week backpacking holiday This is Gina Lyons and Mark lay there in their early thirty's so they were enjoying themselves on the South Asian island they checked into a lovely rustic bought for hotel and were charmed by the friendly staff one into fits in they went for a drink or 2 several bottles of rum later they bought the hotel they drank 12 glasses a room each were told then the decided at that point which I'm sure we've all had brilliant ideas when we had a few drinks it would be a brilliant idea if they renew the contract cost total cost of about $30000.00 pounds now as of July the 1st they are now the looking owners of the looking beach can Gallic. Thought it was a bit weird at 1st the friends and family also thought was a bit weird of us when they realised that signed up to it the making a go of it. Around about 10000 pounds into it already and it's open running as a proper B. And B. Guest house in the got us regular floor visitors so they know sometimes these things don't turn out very well but luckily I think the turnout good for this or not tell us about the time as you say in your headline the French nearly sunk the British monarchy. Yes the French you know they have rocked the boat a few times but this is that the queen was quite horrified when on the royal yacht Brittania in 1992 I was tied up in Bordeaux on a state visit there was a state banquet in honor of France where Mitterrand then the French president the queen invited several 100 extra guests to watch a marching display by the band of the Royal Marines so if they had to ensure on board the everyone was evenly spread to go good vantage point at the same time the duty officer on the bridge was monitoring things with an include no matter which measures the ship's angle but with so many people leaning over one side there was a huge counterweight at the other boat the French president they said accidentally had failed to tell the Queen he had a surprise for us so once the Marines it finished the French set off a huge fireworks display in the opposite direction so everyone charged across to the side that already got the counterweight on there was a huge tilt and everyone got very very worried at the rear admiral So Robert would it it was then the commanding officer said it looks like the Titanic and they said the Queen came running up and said Are we going to be all right he didn't want to panic or and said Of course we are because there's no point in both of us panicking lookalike it went back to the side and always over safe in the end but it the French say was accidently not mention they were going to solve the fireworks but we know what they really think about was. Michael Brecker there at the Express Well the National Hurricane Center in the United States says that hurrican Michael which is approaching the panhandle of Florida is now a Category 4 storm it says it's going to be or it's going to become a category 4 before it makes landfall in the panhandle of Florida means that it's now over 200 kilometers an hour and people have been urged to evacuate most people don't so ready one of the few left in the area is our correspondent Gary or die who and he spoke to me from an area near Panama City Well I'm in Panama City Beach which is as you say in the panhandle it's sort of. It's east of Pensacola but it's west of Tallahassee and this is about the area we're expecting perhaps a little bit east from where I am we're expecting the Michael made landfall later on Wednesday afternoon local time in the last couple of hours the National Hurricane Center as as updated the strength of Michael to a Category 3 Category 3 which means winds potentially up to 120 miles an hour and it's really been steadily strengthening over the last 36 hours or so and the reason apparently according to the scientists for that is that the the waters in the Gulf the Gulf of Mexico at the moment are a couple of degrees warmer in a pretty warm generally but they're a couple of degrees warmer than even they normally are at this time of the year and that is something that fuel hurrican and keeps them sort of keep that allows them to keep their shape in their coherence and so Michael has been strengthening as a result of that and is as the American newscasters would say barreling towards the the panhandle and we're looking at this as a land for police. Of where I am here towards Apalachicola and the Apalachicola River and then insert a bit of Florida if you can imagine it where it sort of bends round they call it they call it the Big Bend which sort of turns round from the handle into the the sort of main Peninsula shape of Florida itself right so isn't that in that corner and people are taking this deadly seriously aren't they because they haven't had something like this for quite some time. Not in this area no I mean the last time they had a big storm here was probably 2005 with with hurrican Dennison there really haven't been that many me 2 or 3 in the band really in the last 50 years quite often the storms hit the other side of Florida down further down Miami or up towards West Palm Beach those sorts of areas of the Atlantic but this one has come up through Central America where it's already claimed a number of lives in Nicaragua and Honduras and El Salvador and it's and if there have been some mandatory evacuations we think about 120000 people in a few counties around here were under mandatory evacuation orders and it does look like quite a lot of people have a bait that I have to say when we drove into here about an hour ago the roads were very very quiet. It's interesting they've got the stop lights the traffic lights on a kind of reverse phase so if you're coming into the city you sit there for ages trying to go through a red light because they wanted to increase the flow away from the city and make it easier for traffic leaving so that's been happening lots of places shut on the way in lots of houses boarded up with wood just a little bit along the coast we saw we stopped by a beach there and we saw a man with trash bags with rubbish bags collecting sand off the beach to make his own kind of makeshift sandbags to put up against his his house which was right by by the coast there so people preparing the the governor Rick Scott the Florida he's been he's been issuing some pretty dire warnings talking about it as a monstrous small storm talking about it being a threat to life and to property and I think they they they I mean they they clearly mean that they have to keep saying that you know to encourage people to get out in the course of the school and like before. We know that. When you. Leave for anyone else this B.B.C. 5 Live it's 4 o'clock B.B.C. News Night with Clara Bailey I'm a news this morning the U.K. Gets a minister for suicide prevention and in sports Phil Neville calls the refereeing unacceptable as England draw with Australia this is B.B.C. 5. The health minister Jackie Doyle price is to become the Minister for suicide prevention in the U.K. Is thought to be the 1st roll of its kind in the world Chile's a national effort to reduce the number of people taking their own lives currently around 4 and a half 1000 a year in England we'll have more on this with Rod on up all night in just a moment thousands of people have been told to leave their homes on the coast of Florida where hurrican Michael's expected to hit land later his governor Rick Scott let me be clear working Michael's a month truce storm in the forecast gets keeps getting more dangerous we are now just hours away from scene impacts the time to prepare is right now the storm is dangerous if you don't follow warnings from officials this storm could cure you trees amaze facing more calls to change her plan for leaving the U. The prime minister says the only alternative is a no deal Breck's it but some conservatives are warning of a voter backlash if she goes ahead with her CHECK IT strategy is a political correspondent Alex for Saif where we are just a week out from that really important summit of European leaders which is happening of course next week I think she would have hoped for more explicit backing from any mold an international development secretary the fact that she didn't get that she is there is clearly still disquiet not just in the very highest levels of the Conservative Party but throughout the.