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Good morning come to the Christmas market so in full flow but they don't like. Nice stuff those days out there trust me. I really did a cold country that mold one comes a useful nice tasty is what I see it doesn't do it it's. You didn't have to stay off it you know we don't mind you know you can let the wine talk for you as you choose the remote meadows with us as ever great have you with us typically the lead you do know is over the other side in Rio taking care of any questions or comments you might have on South American football the lead you know good morning good morning no 50 pop on the Saudi Atlantic it's just water good solid down to earth water you know when you are talking to us when you're not talking to us what to pull No I really don't actually. 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And gentlemen I don't know if you're aware that this is something or arguably it could be a very decisive week and for many ages from South America and Europe in the Premier League this depending on the results. He's Mark Silva the manager of Everton keek a Sanchez Flores manager of Spain the Spanish manager at what foods and Ralph has and who till the Austrian manager of Southampton Emmanuel Pellegrini the Chilean manager of West Ham arguably and threat keep that in mind because I think that might play quite a lot in tonight's conversation and let's go to the 1st e-mail and indeed the 1st e-mail does kind of point towards that because it's after the fallout of. You know I am Mary from are still. John in coma you might be fielding quite a few questions from Arsenal. Fans this warning Tim said Don't get personal Don't let it get to you. The way you said all snatched from want to be very small Can it was also you know. You made me laugh now I'd forgotten about that very maybe Jordan Soko over Washington. Says What a dilemma curious about the panel's thoughts on whether Patrick Vieira might go to all snow or the new David Beckham team in Miami obviously Arsenal a much more prestigious job but can back him and the other into Miami throw more money at Vir or the your mouth Vegas' going to say they have a. Yeah I mean I think I'm going to have some sort of link with the past if anything if they've brought the air in by everybody time including the port look at what's happened Manchester United because it's only going to show shop because he's a club legend it's just taking the pressure off a little bit and social will will last longer than someone who didn't have a connection to the club play recently look at Chelsea with Lampard you know Ok it's going really well for him because he's so famous a chill see they've got that little bit more leeway and you know obviously a do is there are still as as a former player now director of football season link with the past the problem is Vieira's not really gone so amazingly well and as a manager Rose he was a match to City's New York club and now he's a nice and this I think with respect 7 plus season has been quite a bit of criticism of seen on on social media from from from the fans about standard football. Who else is there you know and. I think it love to go back to Arsenal rather than in time Manny I mean you know his club is a big big club and we just don't know how intermarry going to go to work in such a massive m.l.s. Of so many franchises now. I'm just not sure it's quite. A resume managerial wise then you sort of looking at a lake or a who's probably the best. Kind of manager that they could get from what I remember I think he's decent but not amazing he's very only Italian actually not like Kong tayo much seen you mentioning this no screaming and shouting in a very level headed guy and. I was his record speaks for himself. And people also like it he would skip that too in 20111 of the worst AC Milan sites to win a title you can print but what saying and repeating you know in that statement I need to do and it's. Because of every hit so you know this guys don't want to so if they think there is no experience then. The obvious kind of I would say. When Mark said they who else is it him then answered his own question by suggesting Alegria there is one candidate that some of the morning papers are going with is apparently Arsenal's number one preferred choice so if you. Should See No No Well hold on the host said don't look at this no must say that said don't let me get snow come on now just hand me out. I didn't realize your relationship was outside but then maybe Leslie that if you haven't heard see approach and seen it would you wait for the matches you know it's a job to become available because. So show hasn't quite cemented his position there but it doesn't look like he's going anywhere soon would you take the vacant job it's almost the Di lemma that you could have said we can a half ago. That is yeah there that gentleman was in Reno was indeed do you wait for the last new job to become available would you take the top them job so we're back to square one with the die limits going to be not limited by the way let's remember with with. The line he's always come up wave about Barcelona don't want to won't ever ever go out there because he has a long relationship with Espanyol. And if I know that coherent coherence is the is the hobgoblin of the an imaginative but if he's going to apply that to Barcelona because of his relationship with Espanol surely the same criteria applies for art to Arsenal because of his relationship with even though he was sacked from 2 of them yeah yeah I think so even though he was he was sacked I would have thought and also use have a little break now have a break my and study next option because there will be offers are I actually think the perfect fit for him is parasite a man he played there they need I think they need any exactly his type of coach I think he would be perfect for them about Vieira this is why they did bite I'd love to get Mark in on this because now that the Vienna thing it would stick all of the boxes wouldn't it and he does have or at the c.v. Might be a little bit sparse so far but he has a wonderful reputation but the question I would I would wonder with Vieira is would he want to be a fall guy and I'll explain why I mean football has changed the businesses Football has changed I think the business of football in England has become more of a business do you remember a few years ago when the clubs went to the went to try their shares on the stock market and almost everyone lost money because the money making enterprises know on football is such a strange business because what are you doing a year after profits or after titles. But now we've got these owners have come in you know lots of international news lots of owners from United States and they're them they were in it for love you know they're in it because they want to return and the clubs Premier League clubs now they're starting to Mike money now it seems to me from afar and with considerable respect for the great institution is Arsenal the arsenal almost like pioneers in this because. Of serious ones are the men who went and still have all my ass the last Saturday on the north bank I was at the scene and is an impossible for running a slipper for you and. Well you know because they moved to the new stadium and the kind of a promise was bigger capacity with we can compete now with United or with the the top dogs at the time and that has never really come true because it it seems to me that the objective of the owners isn't really to spend the amount of money that you might need in order to compete for the series silverware if they can do that then fine but that seems to me as if it might not be per the priority they can charge very high ticket prices now with their high capacity that c.v. Rights and so on it seems to me to be a money making concern and the coach so I think they are still I think they're the problems are a lie deeper than who the particular coaches you know I think. Maybe stayed on too long but he he made this process much smoother than it probably would have been otherwise because he had all lanes all of his prestige to this new this new project while it was betting in the not unknown not sure that they really want to spend the money to go for a serious silverware making it a difficult place to walk into is what would that be your reading of the business behind the thing Mark. Yes although they have spent quite a bit of money I mean our planning on cost a lot like a set and what have you. Yet that claim stuff isn't what it was. Because height. And the problem has been defense that the government can defense for. 10 years or so and as you well know tenured evidently is great paying 60 balls onto a sixpence for the defender it's not what they need and never see her Brazil these got very sad Talgo serve an extremely you know doing the actual cover defending allowing the rest of us but when you got sucker to snake you making the same mistake you're making is not really helpful I mean Socrates was not the defender asked I wanted to force is a basic Greek I know not since we knew from his time at me that and all and he's not the best and the suffering from that they just needed they needed a Virgil van Dyke sort of player somewhere and our I'm a client hadn't thought about that at all just so well definitely it is available 8000000 yeah experience yes exactly No that's exactly what you don't need. I want to do with we would have it Louise I wonder if the thinking was as follows We don't win the league we're not competitive in terms of winning the Premier League but we've got quick wingers David Louise his defending is going to be exposed in the big games are going to Liverpool's and so on but in the less the games he distributes so well from the back they can get the ball quickly to our wingers and that way we can win enough games to get into the Champions League I wonder if that was the thinking behind the the signing of w e s almost as if it's an admission of we're not really in the rights to win the Premier League but we just want to get in the Champions League which again as business ramifications because you know that not only is the money from getting into the Champions League but also the needy in terms of credibility and in terms of selling season tickets so this is the problem I think that Arsenal got themselves into that they've kind of stood still on the field thinking that yeah just get in the Champions League every year that's good enough but if you just lying still in football. You know you're moving backwards because others will overtake you and this is why I wonder who really wants to step in city's job. Vieira if it was any other club in the situation I'm not sure if he had I would want to you know if you had a might think I'm not quite ready for this and it's a big race with the with the emotional thing that he's got with would often might be might be that tips the balance but I'm glad that he said he would want to step into this because clearly the book you know the shock and surprisingly perhaps once you step into the conversation you can. Try to handle shock goo that the love of all Chief Ivy is that they. Cannot believe state they got themselves it all absolutely 0 Nevis the contrail Mary Jo movie I read it was living in Georgia stepping up to the law and I think it actually is for the bang I left that defensive battle I said savagely and left a few others of. As a go all along I don't need somebody drunk farrago the drunk. Mr Leader of the dressing room if you were Brendan Rodgers apparently was him that was the number one choice for the board if you were Brendan Rodgers would you stick with Lester would you twist to us know what to Don Emery and. You say it's like a poison chalice same thing after the Man United and Sir Alex left and we know what happened that little David Moyes losses and. It's hard to start a shadow of a legend areola if you would David Moyes. Said. If you Brendan Rodgers What would you do I said last. Yes about. One second I just want to go around the table and I'll come straight but you can mark what would you do if you look Brendan Rodgers if you Brendan Rodgers would you . Would want to stay Lester secondly that saying you've got a great big club. Right now you know I mean. Does that mean if it's just going to be going there and it's going to take 23 years it's been around. Kind of clout that you have a smaller look to what would you do remember remember Brendan Rodgers came from Liverpool a big big club and he's got Celtic and then come back down Sonesta is doing well come knocking on the door what would you do if someone's knocking at the door. I'm staying I'm staying put I'm licensed i.y.o. 3 well. I think we've made his decision for him sorry go ahead and only way for. I enjoyed the final call for America at least. A couple of fish stories it was excellent they were winning if you like it was a whole lot of absolute fun to see like you know some last January incident cause I couldn't wait to be able to hold it in the world club couple Jeff leafy temporary but I feel right here at 2020 July today. If you think you did a lot of the trick as. You asked me that. People believe has. Come from our mug do you think it's a good. Well obviously it tops a silhouette in the group so the reason the easy of course Exodus 22 are all this year because actually they're not growing all the teams playoffs to come in March I don't ever remember a major tournament roll off the table off before it seems on actually in the straw so it's going to be fiendishly difficult because they've also u.a. For said Serbia comics only. Russia Coppertone. So we'll have to see how it pans out but it may well be in going against x x x x x and we don't actually know who they're playing until March Ok and clear thank you very much for that really appreciate that this one is from oh by the way I'm going to have to declare an interest. Because our studio manager is a goon I didn't know that if I'd known out of all seem to be on a different program because tonight's. Volatile with regards to the issues of where should to Brendan Rodgers and way his name's Jack in Jack was from you to him Marcello the. Guy out of the River Plate manager a node small so. The natural tabloid gossip that he should be considered for the last 2 jobs but what would he bring to that job or any other big job in your. Razer terrific coach he was a top little player in his time he was. Very subtle very talented playmaker played over 40 games for Argentina played in Europe played in France and he's been in charge of River Plate now for over 5 years that's an unheard of in in South American football it's a remarkable run and Egon he came so close to winning the copper to do it is that enjoyed on b.b.c. So you lost last Saturday which was a tactical masterclass in its way is one of those games when you think you know why would anyone be a coach because he's up against a flamingo side that have more than he that he's got and he's worked out how to nullify them and where to hurt them and we've got me going into the 89th minute and the side of winning one nil and you can't see forming I haven't created anything there's been one chance one Clear Chance from when they refused to put the ball or play in a river pipe I was down and then he's is subject striker who was a hero last year deal 2 legged final against Barca juniors he scored in both legs and he had an absolute mare you know absolutely he loses the ball and he had a warning you know he nearly lost it the 1st time and he still do well Tony and lost it the 2nd time when they had 4 players a header line of the ball out of the game and flowing a broken down the other in equalized and in score the winner in this mad 3 minutes so he gave a tactical masterclass and still lost and Pep Guardiola has been really beginning up saying it's incredible that. Doesn't get on the feet of the podium now one of the one of the best 3 coaches of the year because he's worked year after year after year is as has been exceptional a river plights so he has top class European experience as a player and what he's done and he's in his 5 years at River Plate is developed tactically so much and when he 1st started I thought that all he could really do was that traditional kind of 442 with him. I'm in midfield very traditional in Argentina in fact Lenzie me of West Ham was is that I have a diamond when he 1st won the championship there what he's shown over subsequent years is he's e.c.s. The game very very clearly is able to tweak his formation is sometimes i will to tweak its formation without changing his pies just by just by moving a function China a function here and a function there so I think he has enormous talents I'm not sure if if if he would be in the frame for Arsenal is especially because you know with the Guardiola seal of approval there's a lot of linking him with Barcelona now would be a big leap you know to give Barcelona to someone who doesn't have coaching experience in Europe they did it once before we had our I'm not saying another origin sign and that didn't really come off now Shadow is younger he's got more ahead of him and can't imagine that he's going to stay at River Plate for much longer although I did think it's a year ago you know when they beat boxer in the final and then didn't do well in a Club World Cup I thought well that's the end of the road but it wasn't built another side and he's done well this year so he obviously loves river plight and loves being there but surely he's not going to Europe Europe off for much longer which legendary footballer said this month I am the wisest man alive Frye know one thing and that is that I know nothing probably of remember to remove it. To him can't imagine either him or it saying I know nothing I know one thing and another nothing and he's more likely to cite I know one thing which is that I know everything it's it is it can move who had a spelling go. Oh but that's not a bad show can. You get a little from this of could all of us Ok. You know all the 2nd. I'm sorry don't call the 2nd Yeah yeah yeah that's ridiculous all roun no Lauren for town secure if your pop world are infallible he's got to go to the site has me down there to go to work and we're talking of philosophy this legendary footballer also he said By all means marry if you get a good wife you'll become happy but if you get a bad one you become a philosopher. To say. Thank you funny we got there and why was he a great footballer the legendary footballer he played one match. He was offside for Monty Python that's the one and he was offside is a tame one the greats one at the end of it it's only because you mention Socrates being useless to friend for let me check out for Socrates because I'm a philosopher I think very deeply. 80859096 story doesn't have even that is curious why Yeah I'm a philosopher I think very deeply 08085 good full mugs there by the way for now it was k.r.s. Water it was a really nice guys name was very well actually yeah yeah yeah I used a really well and I kind of went off it when he stormed the stage to give that bloke from. Was named the great time you know I thought that was ungentlemanly anyway Lesley that's one side 08085909 pm do on the boat from pm Dorney stormed off stage because a break from pm Dorn was like taking the mickey out of Charisse one saying is a teacher. And his 2 carers who happened to be in the audience he was very happy about it so I didn't think very deeply about that one I don't know 808059096 died 3 we're talking football in Europe as South America with throwing in a bit of philosophy just for you on the weekend of Thailand is both European and South American coaches Well few of them in the Premier League 1st said let's get the latest 5 out headlights and as I listen he's on digital b.b.c. Sounds Slosberg and on Venus is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live police have identified the man who stumped today 2 people and injured 3 others in a terror attack in London the 28 year old who'd been living in stuff was released from jail on license last December after being convicted of terrorism offenses in 2012. 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Walking just keeps going for successive 50 plus scoring tests it comes after that double century the oval he's on $52.00 it seems a long time since England last took away sick Kate Nicholls dismissed after half an hour of play this morning for 16 to current and laid them shouldering arms approach 41053145 you can hit commentary right now over on 5 Live Sports Extra with the team ice team but here on 5 Live you can average the rest of the sports news with soccer a whole host of Premier League managers have been expressing their support for the fact asked all manager you know I am very he was dismissed after only 18 months in charge of following a string of poor results while the Tottenham boss Jos a Marine you know says he never likes to hear about a manager losing his job always disappointed when the measure was even when I was waiting for a job even when I need somebody to get sacked for me to be eventually a possibility when I hear about factories closing or people working for this kind of. Assistant coach Freddie young bird has been put in interim charge of the arsenal 1st team but former keeper David Seaman would like the board to bring in either Patrick Vieira or McCalla tatter characteristics of Patrick you know only they do the things phase you know you go and. You know to actually just a job you know you never know you know what else is. You know whether we would still what. We have to wait with Liverpool midfielder Fabien you know will be out until the new year after suffering an ankle injury against Napoli on Wednesday while Chelsea will face West Ham without striker Tommy Abraham he's out with a hip problem Dean Smith meanwhile has signed a new 4 year contract and Aston Villa that will run until 2023 follow him stay 3rd in the Championship after an Alexander Mitrovica brace helped them win $21.00 at Swanzy in the Women's Super League finish Brighton 2 reading 2 in rugby union's Premiership are in feral kicked 20 points to power Saracens 282512 win at Bath Andrew Sheridan was commentating for b.b.c. 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I am an advantage I talk to the people in power and I aim to get answers from them on the issues and questions that matters he is someone I was not so hard to see to say from the beginning. To me that the some of the details of the question are straight do you have a conflict because I do think it is a fact statement why would he commit to that because sorry i'm boring and the. B.b.c. Sounds this is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live available on the b.b.c. Sounds. Up all night with just an attaboy and with a legend in a gym victory in Rio and with the Viva Mark Vegas in Burt Lynn taking care of any questions or comments you might have on football in South America and Europe respectively and obviously on players from those regions playing in our leagues as well the numbers who have tried to speak to them directly is 0808590969388599693 you can take some 105 of 5 or e-mail up with b.b.c. Dot com k. . I know neither of you will have much to say about this but it only the dial m. Of a still in looking for a new coach. Has more or less overshadowed the great news well before I ask that question. Mark Warner should we be expecting a call from the gent this morning oh oh. Yes yes. Things are going to cope. And who's going oh no oh no Ok well we'll get you to call a friend on that one in a moment or 2 and there's another reason why we should be expecting a call from the joint It's a German connection and it. Never. The big Levon don't ski school quite a few girls in a week did me any good yes I need to take their meds and of course. He's obviously polish and you know he represents the gen in the the German leagues and the country of course and South London everybody's after London knows that that the judge is probably going to call I've had so many texts and e-mails and tweets this week from people saying we expect the Genzer be cooling at the weekend but then of course there's something else happened with Charlton Tim you know there was . Now not only are places you blinked you've been occupied with this news from the the gunas every year all day long anyway Charlton football club has been taken over by new owners from the Middle East from the Middle East I know neither of you can really comment on in East St investments they're called and yet there is the what they put they say well the right things. They've got a Darby business development owner and you know it could be good times and we could be all singing together at the Valley very soon more than that soon one of on this is ask me to comment on it I've heard anything about the blue line is what I've read of the website and it sounds like they are just one I wonder because that you get little phases where certain areas of the world produce lots and lots of players and I just wonder if at the moment South London is one of those areas that's really really hot for producing footballers so you know a lot of these international news now they are looking at money and profit return. And do you think one has a chance do you think that the logic behind this is produce players to sell you not because you know you like some Joe Gomez or someone you've got I mean that South London catchment area you develop you sell them on do you think that could be the business model know. Obviously. Hoping that the business model is invest in this club in South East London. Which it's going to be hard to see the stadium grow because it's just surrounded tightly by residential houses all around but maybe it will move that wouldn't be my favorite way of going about it was only put the money in so that the team can be back where it. Was in the 1950s if not in the you know 10 years ago when it was when we got relegated from the Premier League less than 10 years ago but anyway at least put us back in the Premier League after this one most chose to say Ok we've got Adam with us who is in the capital of Chile incense Jago Adam Yes an Adam if if West Ham lose to Chelsea at 3 o'clock this afternoon will there be a welcome committee at Santiago airport for Mr Pellegrini on the. Yeah could well be but I'm not sure he would want to come back to this country at the moment given but I current state of course of course but I think you think you might think it might be best. That I mean you're. At unity. What is the current situation on the streets last time you called you gave us a real you know really interesting fascinating and incisive insightful rundown of what was going on yeah so you basically it's been 2 weeks since our last call it's now. I think just over 6 weeks Clint any any match day has been completed here in Chile and it was announced today that with the 06 games the guy majority of sides in the in the top division and with a few games to go in the 2nd but there as well but Chile input with counsel for the year. Well the whole season isn't yet just cancelled. But was going to be a question in a minute if a if asked him or Mark can think of any example where a sleaze and has been basically terminate it before it can finish the reason for this is basically the pliers especially. In the end the main driving force behind it because they just basically refused. To play with the with the security in the country basically not good enough in their opinion and they wouldn't feel safe plan matches Now last Friday morning at 11 o'clock a game kicks are between 20 and lead Calera and k.k. The top division match the match was actually played 150 kilometers from let Clara time is played here in Santiago quite near my house that chilly and. The game was suspended after 70 minutes when one of the main bars here in Santiago call or call it closed bar like the Ultra group. They stormed into the stadium it was only a handful of them but they managed to get a match called off and that really pain catalyst for the whole season now being suspended. Yeah yeah pretty pretty heavy stuff really and that's affected me quite a bit because I make most of my living out. Of jail you know. Yeah it hasn't it hasn't been great news. For me. Yeah now just to clean up just a face that I mean isn't that the Chilean press of what bad news is for the for the much so I was one as well you know how they are losing so many people but so many people have been affected by this the thing and I hope that in the long term it has . A positive impact I know Tim When we spoke to weeks ago you asked me quite a long winded question a required kind of a long winded answer and one I didn't get round to finishing it properly. You asked me if I thought it was going to be positive this movement here in Chile or not in the long term and I certainly hope it will be. Kind of my natural position at the moment looking at just how the world is going to end really it's quite difficult to be optimistic at all about how you know base movements and. Actually being put being a force for good but yeah I think I certainly hope so and there has been some positive changes already but the negative has been certainly the heavy handedness at the place in the army specially in the 1st few weeks of this movement has caused of another movement to begin which is a movement against the violence and the repression from the state and that is now one of the main reasons why plants here. Really didn't want to carry on with the season even I saw that they declared. Who are the leading side with 6 matches to go they've declared them the champions and call all their call or call of the big rivals have congratulated them on social media so that that union that you talked about 2 weeks so weeks ago still saying that he presents from a purely footballing point of view and I think there are far far bigger things going on there than football in this for me this is one of the big stories in the world at the moment what's happening in Chile because of where it's happening and what what this could mean for for for political economy the future but anyway from of purely footballing standpoint I think they've just announced that they scrapped promotion and relegation for this year I have that must mean that their clubs at the top of the 2nd division must really because you know that the entire season as an done anything for them is over do you expect do you expect legal challenges. Yeah and it's a it's the it's the train that the top of the 2nd the terrible already announced that they're basically going to seek legal advice and go free that the team attain top of the 30 which is the last they are professional football here in Chile is a team called Sam Marcus they're Rica and when I say 1st moved to Chile after a few months I moved to Yreka which is right in the north of Chile near the border to Peru and I lived there for 7 years my wife is from there my son was born there and I became a season ticket holder there and a member of that club and are saying to be promoted for even division but little took here and then back down again clever. And a recurve spent the whole season in the 3rd tier playing teams thousands of kilometers away because it's stylised to late in the in the north of the country most of the teams in but there are based in Santiago but spend a whole season competing that dominate the clear they finished the main league season 10 points clear they're currently one point clear in like this playoff league but they also had to go for it and now the Chilean f.a. Have told them I can't go up and the club say I can't hold another season in the furtive because the travel costs are just so much that it's just going to be by basically invested everything in getting out of that league as quickly as possible and now they're being told they have to play another season for the team top of the 2nd tier Santiago wondrous traditionally quite big club here in Chile and some would argue with poor fish biggest. And certainly in support of that but based in the 2nd or 3rd biggest city here in Chile Perry sort of very working class port city and and yeah but their fans have a little bit of a reputation. But trouble. That already put out some cracks to light the decision. Yeah basically not allowed and promotes it now are yeah this I think this will run and run next month at least. Mug what you thoughts on this I know it's not your religion but nevertheless how could they could they the Chilean football federation could they have done things any more smartly way round I mean as had quite rightly said declaring the winner of the 1st Division the top tier was the easy part but the complicated part is what you do about all those who were depended upon promotion or otherwise to try and move up. Yes and that mess of us and it's just stop all this is happening both in football and in the wider society because I was in Chile was always seen as kind of the African. American. Yeah meaningfully going to say well they stayed with champions then why can't they merely set written Bickel champions and why can't you not. Come out in medication what good is the team your lesson or litigation Exactly yeah even more litigation with the bottom you have nothing really going to take them. So what are you doing inside the 2nd or you know they're not there is an easy South American solution to this. Toss a coin is called Explaining the 1st it's called No it's called explaining the 1st Division and of sin in the main kind of similar circumstances nothing to do with social unrest but kind of when there are legal challenges and I've seen this happen elsewhere and there's a dispute you know what the best way is we'll just have another couple of teams in the 1st division you know and. That that may end up being the most practical way out and then perhaps so you get the 1st edition being 2 clubs bigger and then for the next 2 years you rarely get an extra club in order to get to it to get it back down again that might be the most pragmatic solution Oh yeah they talked about this but they did consider this week expand in the league see the 2 teams say combining their mission. And the 2nd it and the 2nd tier but I believe that they voted against it so they. Do their you know whether they're going to go to resume the next season on time because I know the the answer to a lot of Muslims are no and if if the buyers and the players are still demanding the same sort of level of justice and security in society. In a month's time which I imagine they will because nothing particularly moves quickly here in in South America certainly saw legal cases. And and that and that and the search for this that justice can take decades sometimes. So unless birth fans move goalposts there and the players decide. To take some risks apparently the season is going to restart on the 24th of January that's the league season this meant to be some Cup matches before then as well. But yet as it stands it's very difficult for me to. Beatty guys clients like that Chilean food definitely regime next next year because I have no reason to believe that the situation here in Chile is suddenly going to calm down you have of the protests I don't Adam you can appreciate ever imagine this happening if we go back you know a month before. Was it looking back was it inevitable or did it take yes hopefully by surprise. How much it's affected her or has definitely taken me by surprise that. The house I show up rise and that didn't surprise me that much I've lived here nearly 10 years now and and I've had quite a few struggles myself. I think I described it 2 weeks ago on the show you know head you basically. Fairly typical South American wages which isn't particularly high. My 1st job here for example you know I was a man working full time in a in a language institute in around $4500.00 a month but a lot of people would say here that you need maybe around double that to sort of live comfortably here in here in Chile a minimum wage is being increased now but it was always partly like you know you threw in under $300.00 u.s. Dollars in and click costs of goods and services here are very similar places up in in Europe. Italy Spain certainly the southern European countries. And the wages there are much higher than they are it are in Chile. Yet it's. I've always fought but something like this could be possible I just never expected it and maybe a bit more and there for me quite as much as I was it has I'm going to do something about that because I'm going to ask both Tim and Marc to give because I've got some ideas as well as how you can keep your income up despite the end of the ending of the football season so I keep listening in the next half an hour promise I'll get each one of us to offer some advice from a journalistic point of view I'm sure you've got ideas of your own don't get me wrong I'm not suggesting that you haven't thought of different ways of making a heard of example day I shall I should quote the company here who employ me. To analyze Chilean football I don't do it simply from a from a journalistic point of view or sometimes a little bit of money from that but it's more so analytical side of things that they have by they have told me they will try and find some work for me in the same bus so yeah it's not this isn't like a play it's more you know it's I think I thought so or it's playing in the situation and and you know on prom probably fortunately a lot of Chileans here who are I imagine been affected are more than I have by all but yeah it's it's wiring all the same of course this I'm a. Nerd I'm generally you know please do keep us updated to both the political situation and the social situation and also where it was happening in football I'm sure they'll be stories coming out over the course of the next few weeks Who's were thank you very much Adam there. Adam there in Santiago so let's catch up with Bill in Jersey City you want to come into the conversation is when to go how you. Good evening Jim I want to mark and. I had a question for Mark head of the big league match that Liverpool has against Salzburg in a couple weeks was curious what Mark's opinion was Salzberg American coach Jesse March this week he said that he thought that there was a prejudice against American coaches in England and I'm curious what Mark thinks that kind of Jesse marches reception has been so far as a city taken over Salzburg. As all birds Boston and if he was not Liverpool out of the Champions League does he think that that preconception about American coaches would change. Yeah I guess a preconception comes from from you know Bradley when he was in the Premier League and it didn't last very long and that probably wasn't really are his goal it was just people having preconceptions and I think Jesse Marsh is definitely someone who can prove people wrong and I don't think there's much opposition to him being American it's always good because he's made a good start and he makes all the right noises and is clearly a modern coach and coach really knows his stuff and I was speaking to a colleague of mine who knows American soccer very well and saying look this guy is to be nice this is this is the best American coach probably ever produced and certainly with radicals all. Kind of right place to learn the European game the great thing about the Red Bull clubs is that despite what you might think about you know. Drinks company coming in and buying all these things they don't follow their money around stupidly they're not you know spending millions and millions on big name players they actually grow the clubs organically and it's the same. Here in Germany and I find it very interesting that they're going for young players like Holland obviously and then building up from there and yet so expose kind of a good model and I'm pretty sure if it carries on well they will get a big job I mean at the moment in German football all the new coaches basically the start of the season came from Austria and Switzerland because they kind of think that's a good breeding ground to receive the German language there and then bring them into the world as they get now missing and things but it's just taken over how to fill in it's a bit of a different row never see was a success excessive with us football Yeah I think a definite go places of interest to the form ask you a question of when you sort of consider which makes the biggest impact on the way that American soccer is perceived is it the success of a coach or the success of a player like Christine police age because that's what the conversation is about a very poor how well it's we've Josie. I mean people think it's different because you know we've had successful Americans in England for years they just haven't been or were it's admin attacker's and he's one of the 1st you know the 1st real you know sort of attacking players that has as many impact over you can say Clint Dempsey and so on for a while but he sort of grew into that role over over a couple years if I think if Jesse Marsh were to move or move over to England I think is it inevitably is his dream there I do think he would get along great he was the coach Michael up here in New York and we missed desperately ever since he left things and things have not been as good around here but I think he'd be a great fit there but I also think that he you know he's very happy to do what he's doing it's all very sort of a company man that he's kind of moved between the different clubs there and you know what what a great job it is to win the league at a canter every year and then go and take a couple scalps in the Champions League seems like a good job to make him up was this good when he was playing in Germany yes he was there was no surprise money when he left but I think it rescinded a lot and it was clear he wanted to leave so they cashed in that they could but that could hurt the player. Chose it should be Caesar found. Yeah I think that's mainly because Lampard said he'd been in action in the summer and he was quite fit so I want to give him a bit of time to settle it and it was the right call another call from Mr Lamb is he the best player does come from the surgeon your view. Yes it's certainly one of them yeah I mean. As the caller says Landon Donovan didn't really do that much in England didn't. Own the home fans around because back in there putting things quietly in the back but I'm back to this in a moment. 693 gives a call. He's playing for. This c.b.c. Radio 5 Live it's 3 o'clock Good morning this is a full night of 5 Live I'd also and it by the main news on 5 Live to London Bridge attack has been identified and didn't Sport England finally take a 6 week it is bottling is dismissed in Hamilton. This is b.b.c. 5 but the b.b.c. 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