The weather is going to be cloudy and wet for most of us overnight moving into Friday it will be grey and overcast with rain across much of England and Wales I'll If you're planning a sports event this weekend probably wise to avoid holding it in Japan typhoon Hagi piece is disrupting the Rugby World Cup as we've heard earlier in the week now the Formula One qualifying Suzuka on Saturday is off as well I'll be speaking to our reporter Jenny gal about that one she's out there at the moment wildfires in California are now so bad that a power companies cutting off the electricity to try to prevent them starting in the 1st place people there are very angry except for those who are selling diesel generators will be taking a look at the papers as well and find out in a couple of seconds about the former communist leader who's now out in East Berlin taking selfies with school student. So I'll start with that story seems to strange to think it now that once was a wall across the city that split it into 2 different countries and nearly 30 years have passed since this happened these are truly remarkable scenes taking place here tonight on the eastern side of the Berlin wall at Checkpoint Charlie hundreds of people have gathered here in the hope of getting across in the light of the new concessions which have been announced allowing East Germans to cross to West Germany through the Virgin wall and across the Iron Curtain front here between the 2 German is in the distance on the other side of Checkpoint Charlie I can see numerous flashlights going the cameraman from the newspapers in ordinary people who turned out in their hundreds just to be here on this is story evening people on the other side of chanting urging East Germans on this side to come across. Around me there are heated arguments taking place between East Germans trying to get over in the police apparently there are still some obstacles some difficulties with the papers some people don't have the right documents so being told to come back tomorrow cannot go through western or why not was right and they just say no was the only one single you know you don't need the police so come on drones you see here a checkpoint Charlie his solo they can go right off even though they may not have the right documents and they simply charging now through the smooth gate in the fence where they queuing up to get across to the western side of the Berlin Wall. Was. The only thing I was feeling sorry for shouting waiting room number of people waiting to greet the 1st of these children or rivals the buffalo champagne is being on cool was the 1st piece still roof was still having raised almost 50 square. Feet with us. To see how to respond in a suit that lives in nicely shouting shot by somebody about me who see 3 sitting on one of the border fences. One must. Raise almost anywhere close by me to say I've made it. My goal 1st time in West Berlin the 1st time. So why do you come this one a visit you had to visit Yes I go back a full was my what do you think about the seating it's a very very important. Vital food that's great when the food this time yes. What will you do when you're in Western. New York the way you Westerners what do you think about tonight when it's amazing it's what we with waited for 20 to 24 years of something. It's wonderful because I am born in the thirty's and I waiting to be 3 in the. History I mean this is where the wife is going you see if she's crying I mean this is. I was the B.B.C.'s Graham leads witnessing the historic events in Berlin in November 1989 but I missed all that euphoria there was one man who describes those events as being the worst day of his life he's Egon Krenz the last communist leader of East Germany the B.B.C.'s Steve Rosenberg has been to meet him in Berlin of course we put in a request to interview him he has just published a new book about what he thinks about Russia and we weren't expecting to get a positive response and out of the blue he said yes when we actually got to to Berlin and we met him turns out that he'd been expecting Russian state television he thought that we were. So he was a bit surprised to see the b.b.c. Walking in. But he still did the interview and it was fascinating you know in my job sometimes you have to pinch yourself. To actually work out whether something's really happening and this was one of those occasions when I was in the car with the gong Krenz we were driving around Berlin and he was actually like a tour guide you know so he's saying you know look out of the window and you can see this road that used to be called Starlin alley after Joseph Stalin the Soviet dictator he was telling me where Lenin Square was mother was a big statue of the Russian revolutionary by the mere Lenin it was fascinating and the language potentially could have been a problem because my German is pretty poor I have to say and his English is. Similar. But we found this common language Russian So we were chatting away in Russian it was it was a surreal experience Ah but it was how was the tour. Berlin How did how did that go oh it was fascinating it was a tour of East Berlin of course because East Berlin was the capital of the g.d.r. The country that he used to run briefly and the tour ended with his office who we got out and he showed me the building where he's his office used to be and at that particular moment this group of schoolkids came up to him it was really interesting there was a history teacher who brought a group of schoolchildren from Hamburg to study the history of the g.d.r. And this was their lucky day because suddenly in front of them they had this historical figure Egon Krenz the last leader of communist East Germany so of course there was a great opportunity to to interact with a living history and they asked him what it was like Mr Krentz that night when the girl in Wall came down and he said it was well it wasn't a carnival you know it's a very dramatic night it was a fascinating moment because you know they obviously looked at him as some kind of historical superstar so he sort of gone from being this communist boss to being this. In a sense a living legend. For people who aren't aware of Eagle grants to just describe his significance why why does it matter that we're talking to him 30 years on what he was the the last leader of communist East Germany he was a man who was in power when the Berlin Wall came crashing down and he's an interesting character because he was the son of a tailor and he rose through the Communist Party ranks in East Germany right up to the top to become the leader of the of the party but by the time he became that leader in October 1989 everything was changing East Germany was changing Europe was changing you had this wave of people a people power sweeping across central eastern Europe so in fact he was only in power as leader for 50 days the burning war came down very soon after that he was out of power. Within a year of the of the burden will coming down East to West Germany had reunited and the country that ego grants had been running East Germany passed into history no longer existed so he was there at a critical moment in the history of Germany and in the history of Europe and unfortunately it's one of those cases where he was very much on the wrong side of history wasn't the us but. Yeah absolutely I mean he was and still is a committed communist he believes that the ideals of communism are the right ones but it wasn't to be because in 1989 Europe the people of Europe the people of Eastern Europe voted for a different path and the iron curtain lifted and you know for millions of people across Europe it meant freedom and I suppose that must be one of the reasons why he describes the fall of the Berlin Wall and that particular night in 1909 has been the worst day of his life and I must be a very unusual position I suppose. You have to really explain why he said that. When he saw the images of large crowds of East Germans going to the wall then crossing over. Into West Berlin he said you know it was a dangerous moment he was worried he claims that if one person had been injured or killed that night because emotions were so high that he would have borne responsibility for that and they could have that could have sparked a larger conflict that's what he claims so when the whole world was celebrating the fall of the wall and and freedom. For Europe he saw things it in a very different light it was interesting throughout the whole interview he was sort of justifying himself he was claiming that he was the one who was doing all he could to prevent bloodshed he was the one trying to reform East Germany. Other people will see things very differently and in fact several years after. The wall came down in Germany agree United Eagan Krentz was up in court you know he was a man who lost his job he lost his country then he lost his freedom he was actually sentenced to execs years in prison for manslaughter case related to the deaths of East Germans who'd been shot dead. Fleeing across the burly mall Yes he served 4 years in prison in prison before being released so he sort of has had a very. Prosperous you say colorful life he's gone from being this this powerful figure this communist boss to convert to convert to now as a say to the historical witness and how did he seem What did he have any regrets about the side he was on and how is life has turned out. Not really I mean he accepted that East Germany had made mistakes and hadn't reformed soon enough but he was very willing to blame others for what had happened he claimed that the Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev had betrayed him he'd flown to Moscow just 8 days before the burly more came down and he had urgent talks with the Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev and at this meeting he told me he said he asked me how go brush off. Tell me Mr Hooper's of what do you think about the g.d.r. And he says that the Soviet leader said a God Don't worry I look upon the g.d.r. As. A father figure to the g.d.r. And the people of the Soviet Union view the people of the g.d.r. As their brothers and there won't be any German reunification and of course there was Germany you've read invocations so Krentz claims that he was betrayed by mosque he also claims that America's aim in all of this was to get rid of Saudi troops from from Europe you have to remember that there were half a 1000000 Savia troops in East Germany and in it was Moscow's main outpost military outpost in Europe so he's blaming everyone else except himself really and I suppose that's quite common if you look back and in history and how is he viewed in the former g.d.r. Now and how do people see him. Interesting he says that he's become something of a celebrity because he says that he lives a quiet life now on Germany's Baltic Sea coast but he says that people come to his house come to his door ask yourself is ask for autographs he says that he gets lots of telephone calls and letters from the grandchildren of citizen g.d.r. Citizens saying oh please wish my grandma my grandpa a happy birthday will be so pleased so he claims that you know actually the public treats him quite well but he has a bit of a problem he says with the media he said a bit of a bad press understandably when you consider. How events turned out quite fortunate to still be alive is the one when you consider how revolutions can often go get saluted and the incredible thing about you concurrences he was full of life he was full of beans you know he could remember. Kinds of details he was physically very fit and quite a jolly person to chat to you know he was telling us about his life and how he'd been impressed by a banner shortly after the war when he was a little kid he saw this banner with a quote from Joseph Stalin which impressed him and he was telling us about his his rise through the communist ranks he started off as a young pioneer and then joined the Communist Party and rose up to the leader and as he was telling these stories you know there was a glint in his eye and you could tell that there were no real regrets that you know he was proud to have done what he did to be in a party member and sadly he was clearly sad the way things turn out how do you think history will view him. I think that well history's already viewing him as is quite a sad character really someone who. Was a committed communist maybe out of touch with the way things could go in East Germany his country in Europe and a man who was in power such a short time 50 days and resigned in rather humiliating fashion and couldn't prevent what many people believe was inevitable really the the collapse of the Iron Curtain the lifting of the Iron Curtain and freedom in Europe the b.b.c. Steve Rosenberg speaking to me a little earlier about meeting Koreans indeed go round East Germany in East Berlin with him on a tour and becoming the subject of fascination to a school trip there of students who will want to take selfies $320.00 and hundreds of thousands of homes and businesses in Northern California are still without power after the state energy supplier shut down gas and electricity in an attempt to prevent wildfires Pacific Gas and Electric estimates the shelves could affect up to 2 and a half 1000000 people by the end of the week damaged power lines have been blamed for a number of recent wildfires including last year's huge one that destroyed the town of Paradise and killed more than 80 people well Dr Michael war is the head of the climate and energy policy program at Stanford University's Woods Institute he's also one of the state wildfire commissioners I spoke to my little earlier and I asked him he thought the power company's response was proportionate I think it's unfortunately the situation that California is and we didn't want to be here but the reality is that it's hardening the grid. In a way that will protect us from wildfire and allow fights to stay on takes years you know it's going to take 5 to 10 years to accomplish for the stage and in the meantime during these 4 months we face very high fire risk and so in order to create. Safety while we're doing these longer run investments in you know new kind of climate resilient and Chris Tucker. We're left having to turn the power off and just just to remind people this is essentially because of damage power lines that being blamed for the the last number of wildfires that's right you know there are a variety of sort of specific causes but essentially high winds have caused either power lines to fail or have knocked trees into power lines and those high winds occur during the most dangerous part of the year for fire in California and because of a 5 year drought and changing climate conditions the situation has really intensified over the last decade is there any sort of precedent for this kind of action I think is really unprecedented honestly you know I was trying to find. Instances where utilities had intentionally blacked out anything like this number of people for this long and they really just don't exist so we're in uncharted territory here and I think it's challenging for the utility engineers as well because their job normally is keep the lights on all the time their job is not you know to kind of dynamically manage their system in response to changing weather conditions but that's what the people at The Villages are trying to do right now in California. And it leaves more than half a 1000000 people without power but what's the reaction been to that I think it's quite a bit more than half a 1000000 actually I mean there's there are close to 600000 customers in the dark but each customer is really household right so it's probably. Well over a 1000000 and perhaps $2000000.00 people in California and people are incredibly angry I think it's safe to say there there was already a lot of anger at the towards the utilities in California especially Pacific Gas electric for having set these fires that destroyed communities and it feels like adding insult to injury Unfortunately what have Pacific Gas and Electric said. Well they've said you know this is necessary to keep people safe and and unfortunately you know they they've said quite explicitly that you know they are prioritizing safety over convenience and they are our stream we apologetic for that and can be and so this is causing but they're unwilling to take chances anymore that fires might be set with their equipment I mean honestly power is. An essential need do people have any clue of the potential for legal action here against p.g. And e. . No they actually do not you know this is this is a question that was asked and in general in general in the least in the United States there's no liability for utilities that fail to provide power and an outage or a blackout. I think we're not used to situations where the outages intentional as opposed to caused by a natural disaster. So perhaps we'll see some new litigation on this question but at least so far as the Public Utility Commission is concerned of California there's no there's no right for customers to make claims against p.g. And e. . How are people coping though I mean I'll sales of diesel generators for example going up. Yeah well you know it's a good measure to see what happens in the aftermath of this blackout this is really the 1st widespread public safety power shut off that the utility has undertaken. Prior to this event my understanding is that generator sales in California Rob 600 percent a year in addition the activity of distributed energy companies that sell solar rooftop solar panels and you know distributed batteries you know the kind of battery that you could put in your garage on the wall has really taken off this year and we're seeing a real shift in their approach to focusing on. The computer age as a key as a key is this but there is action which is most of California's power comes from. California power comes from a real mix of resource we have a lot of hydro we have some nuclear we have a tremendous amount of solar power in our state and some some wind in natural gas as well so it's a real where we have sort of a hybrid mix that's getting cleaner every year it's moving toward a mix of solar and wind and away from fossil resources we basically have no coal fired power in the state. But you know the question is what happens when you're cut off from that grid What do you do that and I expect that after this especially people who can afford it are going to take kind of you know engage in self-help where they either purchase generators or they invest in solar and batteries so that they can ride out these events when they occur in the future because I think they're going to look maybe maybe we could easily see another one of these this year. This was so supposed this could become a political issue as well couldn't one of the politicians in California been saying well they are outraged governor Newsome in particular used that word to describe the outage that p.g. And e. Created and they are upset that p.g. Has been unable to take actions faster that would allow them to run the system through these dangerous when that happens. The challenge is that there aren't enough trained personnel in the United States even to do this work there's so much work that needs to be done to harden the grid in California that there aren't enough trained electrical line workers to do it it's that's why it's going to take 10 years it's not an issue of money it's an issue of trains electric personnel and we've heard it's widely reported about the the the the pool standard of American infrastructure generally this I suppose is the kind of latest example of that. That's definitely true the p.g.d. Grid you know it was really a little much it was built in the $890.00 s. And the 1st half of the 20th century so it's it's old and at least some of the fires have resulted from 100 year old infrastructure that failed under conditions where you are better maintained systems would not have failed so part of this does have to do with kind of the general problem of crumbling infrastructure that we haven't as to what you think is the long term solution that how can this be avoided . Well I think it's going to be a mix of things I mean the 1st thing to say is that California needs to do more to harden its communities against the threat of wildfire the wildfires aren't just started by electricity they start by lots of things and so we need to do more to make our communities resilient and in the power sector you know the actions that t.g. And so the California has are taking will over time that create a safer electricity grid and work through some of the deferred maintenance that's accumulated over the years at the same time you know the cost of these backup power solutions is is changing very quickly Solar's getting it's very cheap batteries are on the same trajectory and so I think over time as well we're going to see a more distributed electricity system that allows for people to ride out. A less reliable central system that sometimes has to be shut down because of these climate change related events how about a tax issue would there be any kind of appetite for Californians to pay more taxes that they could eventually get better infrastructure do you think. Well. Probably not because I'll just be honest probably not but you know what is happening is that Californians are paying higher electricity rates to get better infrastructure at least in the on the in the power sector and you know I think from most people's perspective there's kind of a a Schmidt shades of gray between taxes and electricity bills right it's they're all costs of doing of living and owning a home and living in a particular place and so electricity rates are going up to cover a lot of these costs and so in effect that's raising you know taxes in a way on the communities that need need the investment. The consequence is a serious illness because if you if you if you thinking about moving to California you might be put off when when you know that there's the potential for such widespread Palca Absolutely it's important size 0 for people that they're listening that they may not be familiar with California that you know there are lots of places in California that are not blacked out the areas that are blacked out tend to be more rural or suburban and they tend to be kind of in the hills and sort of wooded areas in northern California if you live in the city you're completely in an impact it by these issues and even if you live in large large towns and are not of water ridge top you might be on impacted by these issues so it really is you know people that live in what's called the wild land urban interface that are being most heavily disrupted. How long do you see this problem's going to take to fix I think fixing the challenges with wildfire in California is going to be at least a decade long process. We're going to be looking at these kinds of power system disruptions for at least the next decade as the chillis invest and new solutions that are that take wildfire into account. And. Mort Chen really you know California faces enormous challenges in terms of housing housing affordability some of the least expensive places to build are the most dangerous but restructure wildfire and so we face some hard choices a state about where we're going to build all the homes for the people that really want to move here and have the jobs that California is so good at generating Dr Michael Warren speaking to me a little earlier he's the head of the climate and energy policy program at Stanford University's Woods Institut and one of California's state wildfire commissioners talking about the decision to where Turn off the power to try to prevent wildfires Elysee to up all night here on 5 Live it's $332.00. On digital b.b.c. Sense snobs face to face b.b.c. Radio 5 live here with a headline says Tom mostly the brick secretary Steve Barclay will hold talks with the e.u. Chief negotiator later today after what ministers say were positive discussions between Boris Johnson and his Irish counterpart on Thursday Donald Trump says he hopes to be able to mediate the conflict between Turkey and Kurdish forces in northern Syria the Us president has been criticised for withdrawing American troops from the area. A survey by a charity suggests that one in 4 patients with 2nd report breast cancer had to visit their g.p. 3 or more times before they got a diagnosis G.P.'s say they're doing their best for patients but that symptoms can be difficult to spot and Cambridge University says the storm's effect is encouraging more black students to come to study there is after the growing artist's pledge to fund the cherishing fees and living costs of $2.00 students each year is the sport now with. A cruel night in Rotterdam for Northern Ireland to hope to move closer to your 2020 qualification when this happened on 75 minutes talisman said about he was. Was. Was was. Was. However that lead against the Netherlands only lasted for 5 minutes before Memphis the PIII equalise the Dutch went on to rip through the Irish defense and hearts and finished the match 31 when as the Northern Ireland manager Michael O'Neill says it's dosh their hopes a bit there's nothing you can say to the players and of themselves they're devastated in the trash room the new significance of a point of 70 significance of 3 points as well but we come away with not and we have to obviously just look to the final 2 games and try and get as much as we can at those 2 games and well side who are 3rd in the group have to win those games and rely on of the results to get through now well still have a chance of progressing after their 10 draw in Slovakia the 3rd in their group Scotland's hopes of hanging by a thread though after a full no hammering in Moscow Scott was wish he could shut up over at the end of. 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Beat the Czech Republic that will be all commentary match in 5 Live Sports a build up starting from 7 to the Rugby World Cup and Scotland head coach Greg Townsend says he has faith in organizes that his team will be able to play that crucial match against host Japan on Sunday too much is of being called off as a typhoon closes in on a decision will be made about Scotland's munch on Sunday morning it's only a one of the teams affected by the consolations they have a chance to qualify if they played and beat New Zealand the head coach Conor O'Shea says players broke down in tears when they found out it was starting to be almost after all the work and sacrifice over the summer I know that America will what if you don't miracle much but we still have the opportunity to go out and God knows what happens in sport but also after all the shock of all is that these guys made for their country to not be allowed to finish on the pitch so much like this change is pretty hard to take and another incredible performance from Simone Biles at the world gymnastic championships in Stuttgart to see her extend her all round world title record to 5 the 22 year old American is now one medal short of equalling Vitali Shabbos all time record of 23 well medals we people were a little bit younger so I feel like I'm kind of aging like fine wine. So I can't be mad about it that's the latest from b.b.c. Sport played I suppose rugby league radio I said. That was sensational. Television stay so fit in the same belief crap you saw it for us it's classic. When. You push. It from 6 b.b.c. Radio 5 Live. The 1st phone use and the best law school this is b.b.c. 5 Live. With me Richard. Till 5 let's just get some more on the Formula one announcement from Japan this morning the organizers of the Grand Prix there have canceled all practice and qualifying sessions for Saturday and it's all cause of the typhoon typhoon which had already been playing havoc with the Rugby World Cup show jewel Jenny go is just off air from sports extra covering the 1st practice session Hi there Jenny one of the organizers say. Well they're basically been monitoring the situation over the last couple of days and they made a call this morning we officially found out 10 minutes before the practice session got underway that there would be no track action tomorrow the concerns of the wind speed will be too high the rain will be too tarantula and it just wouldn't be safe for anyone to come to the circuit they're taking a lot of precautions already to try and ensure that what is here remains here and doesn't get blown away and that everything is batten down basically But yeah organizers just say the risk is too great so they will perspire own qualifying till Sunday morning and well probably go and sit in a hotel for about 30 hours just fine then taking taking place on the day of the race itself. Yeah it's not unprecedented it's happened before an occasion when we've had severe weather I think back to maybe Austin where it happened last potentially where we had a toehold washout it's quite unusual for it to be cooled ahead of qualifying normally you know they just run the clock down on a Saturday nothing much happens and then they'll have to qualifying on another point in time or take it from another practice session in the grid order but because this tie feel you can predict where it's going to go to a certain extent they've made a sensible decision to as you say perspire on it so it will now it's now due to take place at 10 o'clock local time on Sunday morning and then the race will start at 10 past. Win the afternoon so you know a 4 hour window which is what they need to have between qualifying and the race but it does throw up a certain amount of jeopardy for the drivers because if you have a big crash in qualifying normally you've got overnight to fix the car well now they'll have 4 hours to fix it and get it onto a grid so not much time and I suppose to be mindful of the fact that it could take an enormous amount of tearing up to get that to get the race going to pending and if there is any damage from the typhoon on Saturday. The average that you're absolutely right there's a lot of structures around here that a temporary structure is as I say they are really battening down the hatches and they're brought in law Kong create sort of Ted that some of the hospitality units to those extra as a precaution but they're going to have to dismantle quite a lot of the paddock structure take down anything that could be kind of taken away by the wind and have to put it up tomorrow morning sorry on Sunday morning so they'll be attracted spectrum at 815 on Sunday where the safety car will go around and drive the circuit to make sure it's Ok I do feel for the organizers and for the people who you know putting together this weekend because there's a lot at stake it's a big money industry and they're going to have to make sure it's safe and safer not just the drivers but also all the fans coming in and everybody else here how was the feeling among among people who were there not just for just for the Formula One but for the fact that it's you know going to be this colossal storm potentially are people apprehensive. I think people are a little bit of nervousness I mean I personally have never been through a Thai thing you know we have gales in the u.k. But a typhoon is something I've never experienced so we've been getting a lot of advice of what to do with stocking up on food just in case everything is closed on Saturday and we've been told not to leave the hotel so I think trepidation to a certain point and just a lot of. People thinking Well tonight it's going to be a very different night normally a Friday night it's all business the teams are really you know in the thick of things all the teams in a load of mechanics and engine is with not a lot to do on a Saturday I feel like the local the Boston establishment so going to get hit quite hard tonight and it's not going to be by the time and for people who just want to catch up on what has actually happened today what's been going on in 1st practice. First practice it looks like you say these are clear of everybody else but it's very difficult to know what they're actually doing out there because it's such a strange weekend with no practice session and qualifying not happening so. Definitely look like they you know they have their a game so far this weekend Ferrari and Red Bull not too far behind them but just in front of me which I have to stay we've had one of the Japanese drivers having his debut in a Formula One car his name is. And he has a lovely guy very experienced when it comes to driving a car he's won 2 championships when it comes to super formula his leading super foreman right here in Japan at the moment but he's got his debut and he is one of the kindest people I've ever met he actually phoned up the driver he was meant to be you know the usual driver for the session because he's jumped in the car for him and apologized for taking his seat for free practice one and he went out there he was 17th fastest good showing for him and the fans must have been delighted to see a Japanese driver out there as well where we wish him luck and we wish you luck as well Jenny just stay safe and hope it all goes well as we can. Thank you very much I will tell them myself to something heavy and to stay in the hotel follow the advice thanks very much indeed Jenny go for your own correspondent there on the news that the practice session and indeed the qualifying Suzuka on Saturday all events of Saturday are cancelled because of the arrival of. The typhoon that small breaking news in the past Alan Nike has announced it's closing its already can project team all this comes less than 2 weeks after the u.s. Anti-Doping Agency handed a full year ban to all Regan project coach about his Sallisaw for traffic in performance enhancing drugs to its athletes will broaden Dolly is the director of content operations at Runner's World high that brought a Richard area very well thanks thanks for speaking to us what is No he said here. Yet Well there is basically the main information we've got tonight was a memo from Mark Parker the c.e.o. Of Nike. Essentially features a meter reader straight he said with the ongoing stand changes assertions according to Nike. It's just been a distraction to the athletes compromising their ability to focus their training and competition means. The end of their season here so it's this time like you're going to wind down the Oregon project team which I believe has been around since 2001 started by Alberto Salazar even when those right away in Oregon Project Web site is down of their social and I believe Instagram I haven't checked Twitter but I would imagine that's down as well. The wind down seems to be starting and information from there we're still trying to figure out all of that but kind of a shocking development in all of this stuff going on since the world championships started and carried on through right now for people not aware of the project just just how significant was it as a kind of athletic school as it was. Yeah I mean. And our the sounds are as decorated runner himself started this team in 2001 and they've had a ton of really big names in running he tells our kind of started this team in the u.s. Under 90. 2 really bring the u.s. Running scene from a distance to up to the marathon so big names I'm sure your audiences about for. He left the team in 2017 others like Galen Rupp and Galen are actually racing each other this weekend and the Chicago marathon so it should be interesting that their press day tomorrow and then other big track athletes Matthiessen to it for the u.s. He won gold in 1900 meters. In 26 teams and other big u.s. Runners as well even at the World Championships this past week that just ended earlier this week but. Rather is Donovan brazier and to find her son who are with the Oregon project. Hauser was my coaching them during the event they both had big win raisers setting an American record in the 800 meters and sustained us on winning in kind of an unprecedented double meadow in the 1500 meters and the 10000 meters so it's a huge program and it's kind of like the Yankees of running programs here and there is a big name in the sport do we do we know yet what is likely to happen to the athletes who Apostles the Oregon project. Yeah that's that was kind of my initial question is. What go on this is purely speculation on my part but I don't know if it's just another team will come through all this don't know about their contract with Nike they did say that they will work with these athletes to find the direction and coaching that they want and not everybody on Oregon project was directly coached by Alberto Salazar there are other coaches in the program who work with people like Donovan Brazier more directly and others and at the World Championships a lot of these athletes tried to make that very clear that they didn't know a lot about the situation going on with how versus Eleazar when they signed with the team and also that like they don't have a lot of direct involvement with him they join the team some joined in about the mid twenty's and. But there's been ongoing. Looks into what is going on in the program since the early twenty's. Little bit of wiggle room there for when people joined and what they according to the what sort of famous have all knowledge so. Yeah I don't know again it's kind of tough to tell right now there. Super big in the running scene. And even with their other night the pontiff seems like the government tracks. They're under 90 as well and they have a lot of great runners under that. Is going to be interesting to see what becomes of the runners who are under the Oregon project like Jordan essays running Chicago Marathon this week and Galen Rupp and what their next steps are going to be will they stay with one thing or are they going to go independent try to find some other funds or is going to support their running and ever is and it's even more interesting to me where less than a year from the 2020 lympics when a lot of people are going to be having their eyes on the Ronnie scene and of course it comes as well this announcement just days before the Chicago Marathon too that that's not ideal preparation for the athletes is it. We have a lot of great reporters in Chicago who are probably I would imagine trying to get their press beats right now for what should be an interesting press today with Galen and Jordan has. I mean tomorrow we'll have our eyes on that we spoke with Jordan to say who is the 2nd fastest American marathoner ever who is coached by Albert and he said since he was banned on September 30th she hasn't. She hasn't spoken with him he's been doing the taper of her training by herself and that she didn't even really communicate with Alberto that much during race weekend because he would be more stressed out than her so maybe she'll be Ok and be motivated by this. But it should be. Well you know what regardless if you're a running family Brian thanks very much indeed as Brian Darley director of content operations at Runner's World speaking to us about the news that's broken in the past hour Nike is confirming that it's closing its Oregon project team less than 2 weeks after the u.s. Anti-Doping Agency handed that 4 year ban to the Oregon project coach Alberto Salazar in listening to up all night is tend to fall it sir look at what the front pages are saying and it's largely that kind of rather better atmosphere around Briggs at the Guardian jobs in infrared we can see a pathway to a possible break that deal dare we dream of a deal as the Daily Mail brags that hope is Boras an Irish pm say they're on the pathway to an agreement by Halloween a deal can be done by October 31st say Irish That's in The Daily Telegraph Johnson in Varanasi breaks a deal pathway as talks shift mood front page of The Financial Times that one Metro goes with Irish eyes are smiling they've also got the latest on the the wired war between Coleen Rooney and the wife of Jamie Vardy and Hans Johnson reprieve on possible deals as the Independent Daily Star x m I 6 boss aliens do exist it's front page of The Daily Star has Boris only gone and done it as the Daily Express again with a picture of a rather scruffy looking Boris Johnson having those talks to walk up the avenue of trees with live rock or who let's face it looks an awful lot smarter on the front page of The Daily Express in that picture there and Penny Lancaster on the front page of The Daily Mirror as well tears for my brave Rod wife Penny says his prostate cancer was more aggressive than 1st feared he had 3 months of intensive daily radiation treatment and I said it isn't right is Stanislav scar in ski from the Polish newspaper guess i t v but char Hooper pronounce that correctly it's legal on an author who's taken the Nobel Prize for literature or got the guts of was awarded the Nobel Prize in Literature for. Actually the previous year the prize was not given because of the scandal so she is awarded for last year about the suicide of that this year and what does it have about I'm writing for him from from the u.k. Folks who have and and I'll just quote what she said because that's probably have tests optic announcement after receiving the prize she said that it is extraordinary that the prize goes to Eastern Europe and for me after all is national It has assigned at this point all the problems we have with democracy it will still have something to tell the world. And then she addressed the fact that the general election if because with all the thunder in both those she said I'd like to throw all my friends people in Poland that vote in the right way for democracy and that reflects her years of her client and the government and our right generally which hate TEFL was she rides because she's being king now in the outright media incog child was quite widespread was is being called the Polish a traitor and even the minister of culture. In the government and declared that he could not get through and the opera books he might be quite surprised that. So why is she such a controversial figure here in the u.k. She within become controversial at all but in Poland she speaks up for. Bt community she actually addresses the in her books they can be question all about color g.e. One of the most famous but it's about a woman who's who's so moved by how people mistreat nature that she actually stands in the pant for the nature to the very very very end and she stands for Polish history which is not a simple as the government would like to see now I think her vocals Magnum. Which is Jacob's. Jacob would be has not been yet translated to English but it's definitely coming especially now and it's a story about a sect or Jewish people promo is to Poland in the 18th century throng So it's very far from the history which is cultivated by the car ride. Or. All the polls are just you know descendants of the belittling and the only within the man or so that really simplified impose and 4 goals in a way and she speaks out for a very different very pro the and complicated history of Poland was is strictly against what the. Government of low and justice is. You have a story about prison is and what might happen to them after a break sit Tell Me More on that well that's just really interesting I mean we were wrote it for the Oxford Mayo but since then I cannot really figure out who the Home Office how to what's going to happen because either it's quite a simple story about poor wording of the government's Westside and up would be just you know a question of if you was saying on the website or all read from the from the government's website if you've been to prison you usually need 5 years continued to resit then. Residence from that they you will be relieved to be considered for settled that that. From what we have learned with they had of the Oxford Polish association if Uggla the well the effectively discourages people from applying for a settled status and if we go deeper into that story it is quite possible that once the e.u. Citizens directive which regulates that after a while if someone's arrest and imprisoned. A sentence because of the crime committed if the. Lyrics in the u.k. a Less than 5 years old general in in a different member state of the country is allowed to pull the person month say well we don't want this person to live here anymore once the person lives longer than 5 years affectively becomes a permanent president and the death or the settled status threshold came from it so that they wrecked it once that person is a permanent threat the resident the country which wants to depose must have really good threes and to do it and once the person lives in that the prince member state for any is a longer person needs way way better explanation to be decoded because it is consider that she is the thought of that society not the previous one. I mean that in some cases that might be really difficult because some of those who have only Polish citizenship only goes passport they actually never lived in Poland and they are just children of people who moved here well years ago and they were no 8 or 10 when they moved with their r. And started school in Kenya and they barely speak and the Polish they never really lived in Poland. Very little children when they aren't decide to move the family and now they got in trouble with all go to prison and mind being down the pulpit all this cut or or this coverage from applying for a settled status I tried to contact the Home Office about the date the states now received is basically missing the point of my questions and it's just that day to day on this saying that the only serious open assistance criminality may lead through p.s.o. It's actually they come out that they cannot really say what where is that coming from and the problem is that if it. Then when the citizen direct they cease to abide by the u.k. Regs that it is possible than pose Greg that you came because just because people on their own are really weak basis there's been a court ruling involving a victim of sexual abuse committed by a Catholic priest in Poland as well. Modoc me that chick who decided to go public with what happened to him and he was the main role of a documentary about how Catholic Church in Poland basically covers up its members since priest since he decided to go also to court and in 2014 and in fact in sin since 24 last in the as he called for justice and because they decided that the church and the perpetrator needs to pay him about 80 pounds and down to its core 100000 so this is about 3000. So that's quite an important ruling because well it is expected that. In Poland will sooner or later have really. Because. There are numerous cases and it is in the way what's happening in different countries like the island or in in the us it's not happening in Poland that needs to happen because churches I repeat our full and pulled in there. In Poland and. Whoever is running the church they're trying to appoint the topics and pretend that nothing happened and that leads to very difficult situations as the 11 of my masteries filed. A case against one of the victims at the request that she pay back the compensation she gulps for prom another cold. Of course. Because they state that declines Crisco meant that they. Continue this explanation that this was his private that he had the chance has nothing to do with them forced to. So they don't want to be thanked for. No I said it's a Stanislav scoring ski from the Polish newspaper be but other. Than news and play nearly for anyone at this z.z.z. Radio 5 Live it's 4 o'clock on 5 Live this is up all my time Richard Foster. The main news on 5 Live breaks exalts resume later off to positive discussions between the u.k. And Ireland and it's called the haunch to be the Northern Ireland Knights of digital Europe qualifying this is b.b.c. 5 and with the b.b.c. News on 5 Live his time mostly the break 6 secretaries Stephen Barclay will meet that he used chief negotiator in Brussels later with hopes of a deal apparently on the Rai's yesterday Boris Johnson and his Irish counterpart Lee have a Rocker said they could see a pathway to a possible agreement following talks partly he is the Irish Times whose political editor but the e.u. Side will want to know about is the practicalities of how this plan is applied they will make a judgment whether that is realistic because their problem with alternative ways of doing border checks which the British side of me talking about for a couple of years that he used problems has always been with no objection to them but you must show us how it works in practical terms Donald Trump has suggested he could mediate a deal between Turkey and Kurdish forces in northern Syria tens of thousands of people have fled their homes as Turkish troops captured villages in the border area the president says the u.s. Could also step in militarily or impose more sanctions in response correspondent in Washington is Chris Butler I think the fact that we.