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It. Is. Unacceptable very painful an insult Kerry Gracie's words to M.P.'s about her battle for equal pay at the b.b.c. Was certainly powerful so what should the organization do next to restore people's confidence if you lead a campaign for Catalonian independence she would want text messages saying Madrid had won the battle to be read out on Spanish t.v. But that's just what happened to Carlos put him out did he really mean it and even if he did work in the campaign go from here we'll hear from a grade girl about the decision to park the idea of using good girls in Formula One The son now says it's formula done dumb rather and brands officials as killjoys to she agree plus if you want to claim for an accident on your travel insurance probably better to avoid getting very very drunk. So one day after a new report said there was no gender bias at the b.b.c. Carry Gracey the corporation's former China editor told M.P.'s investigating pay inequality she was shocked to discover that she was being paid at least 50 percent less than her male colleagues it was Grace He was handpicked for the post of China editor she's worked for the b.b.c. For more than 30 years and is a fluent Mandarin speaker she told the Digital Culture Media and Sport Committee that the b.b.c. Justified paying her less because she was in development the thing that is very all acceptable to me. But I just don't know what to do this is they basically said that in those 3 previous years 20142015 and 2016 I was in development. But. It is an insult to add to the original India. It is unacceptable to talk to your senior women like that she then went on to say she was determined to change things to help other women I am a resume person I have a life you know I have skills that are marketable I could leave the b.b.c. Tomorrow and get a better paid job the thing is I don't want to leave the b.b.c. Because they don't want to leave it in this state it's my work family I've been with this permit for 30 years it is in deep trouble the B.B.C.'s director general Lord Hall who also gave evidence to the committee apologize for mistakes that have been made sorry this has taken so long and I'm sorry with in this position yes but as I said I think the thing that actually divides us because there's an awful lot that we agree and in terms of analysis of what should be right and all of that is the idea that every single editor. Home and Abroad I would imagine should be paid exactly the same I don't agree with it should not be a matter of gender completely agree outrageous if it was but you know you have balances between different editors and we need to be very upfront about what that as it were pecking order is the labor m.p. Julie Elliott asked Lord hall why there's a disparity between men and women. Can you give any just occasion for why people particularly on excellent at being paid 0 point equally is that any justification about Well as I said yesterday as a reporter yesterday. There's been a history here of markets being very different from news people versus others that's been a cultural issue in the d.c. Where we have traditionally let these issues be discussed at a program level. That's clear there's been different source of contracts there's been different payments and allowances for people there's been different ways of negotiating their own I was always saying and there isn't any just pick a shift and what we are saying in a very open fashion is we want to move forward and get on to a framework which is clear these people and put them anything forward that's not right the historic losses that we drafted historic losses take a look at pensions the lack of pain that's going to be here is what are you going to do about those 3 what I also said yesterday in that document in interviews and so and so or was if there are things that are wrong we will put them right we committed to that well earlier I spoke to Charlie Beckett a former journalist who's now a journalism professor at the l.s.e. He also runs a journalism think tank called policy he began by giving me his reaction to Kerry Gracie who's been giving evidence in front of the Digital Culture Media and Sport Committee but it was most extraordinary thing I've I've heard of course lots of b.b.c. Journalists grumble about management but this was the most passionate emotional. Statement about how she had been mistreated but what was really interesting was that she wasn't just talking about her own payor own position I thought what really struck home was when she said the values the b.b.c. Journalists have about being truthful trying. Berent and so on we're not being man matched by b.b.c. Management and I think that is the really damaging thing about this this whole route of course people out there your listeners will think that women should be paid the same as men and I suspect they'll also be a bit shocked about how much the men are being paid but what really strikes home is how badly b.b.c. Management has handled this whole issue we also had of course from France with an entirely whole 2 of the most senior people within the b.b.c. One of them of course director general how do you think they they said well I thought actually Franz worth was did a really best to be direct detail to honest it could be perhaps that this is a as a woman she's a better manager Tony Hall is a great guy who has been very good for the b.b.c. But I thought he has not tackled the historical problem about why there are certain you know b.b.c. Presenters are paid astronomical amounts of money who happen to be men but also that he hasn't dealt with getting to grips with it this ludicrous report they're going in from consultants that said there wasn't a problem when there clearly is a problem decisions have to made some of them tough and it's clear you know from that committee hearing that the M.P.'s were really unhappy with the way the director general has handled this thing it sounds therefore like you tend to agree with the claims that that report was a why was. I am now why washed out the what happened was the b.b.c. Commissioned report and they let Pricewaterhouse Coopers the consultants who are probably very clever people dictate the terms of that report they didn't say solve the problem give us a tough report they said give us a in a way that sounded to me that this would give us a why. Out of this because the b.b.c. Is doing a load of great stuff around trying to improve you know pay equality gender pay equality and so on all those doing it rather slowly. A decent consultants report have told them to take the tough tough decisions and take them quickly and get on with it how do you think the b.b.c. Has it got itself into this position of need these these big disparities between some male and female presenters Well I don't think it's because the b.b.c. Is evil the b.b.c. Is a terrific organization but I think there was a sort of cultural capture where you have you know male middle aged managers who have a sort of idea that somehow the b.b.c. Is like Hollywood now that may be correct for some of the entertainment bits the b.b.c. But for journalism I'm afraid is not true there are loads of great b.b.c. Journals there are other great journalists who could do the job some of these highly paid people in a way because I could have some fresh blood in there the idea that I'm not picking on people particularly but you know the idea that John Humphrys is going to rush off from work for c.n.n. And so on is a bit of a fallacy so I think there's a kind of cultural capture that they got themselves into a bubble where they they weren't being realistic most of those people are like Kerry Gracie she wasn't bothered about she didn't want to earn like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of pounds she does it for the love she does exist b.b.c. Can be a great place to work so it was just kind of ludicrous 1020 years ago when those people were getting those kind of big money footballer kind of checks and now there is this this downward deflationary pressure on the news presenters salaries Why do you think it's happening now. Well obviously journalism generally is under pressure I think the b.b.c. Has got a fantastic role to play We've got all these you know weird news media organizations springing up and it's marvelous that we've got the b.b.c. That still retains its kind of you know credibility it may be boring at times but at least you know you try for the truth so I think it's really important the b.b.c. Plays to those strengths that it doesn't try and be show biz it doesn't try and be click bait it plays to you know that your colleagues who believe in the journalism they believe in public service they're not doing it for loads of money and frankly somebody is doing it for loads of money if they demand 1000000 pound contracts and I would if I was a big manager say Get lost we've got loads of great honorable Germans who had to take your place so in your view these sort of salaries have never really been justified probably never been justified certainly not in an era when the public are all feeling the strain you know in our own incomes when you know I talk to newsrooms you know around the u.k. And around the world everything is really the time it. And I'm afraid that b.b.c. Management done a lot they've done you know some tough decisions but they've not really grappled this with this one and that is part of unlocking it's not just a feminist issue it's not just about bringing up women's wages which is right and justified and when you think about her account Kerry Grace he was treated individually it was disgusting but it's also is generally the b.b.c. Has got to realise that it you know is going to provide value for money to the license fee payer I heard from an employment lawyer a little earlier speaking on the b.b.c. And she says that the employment law regarding equal salaries is decades old you know it came out in the 1970 s. But but companies and in this case of course the b.b.c. Are still waking up to a deal that's fair. I think so I think so I think that you know it's not just about a lot of the lore It's about because there's sort of subtle ways about who gets promoted and so on and I thought that the story back Carrie Gracie being told that she hadn't been paid as much because she was in development Well that's a kind of management speak it probably wasn't breaking the law or anything but to treat somebody of her seniority like that that was shocking so it's not just about Lauren legality this is about management realizing that they should be treating people fairly and they should be encouraging the phenomenal talent next pity's and hard work of all their staff in you know I think particularly women I spose if we are to take the positives I should suggest one of them was this was evidence of a change of culture beginning at the b.b.c. Do you think it's happening to the extent it's needed or do you think we need more pressure on b.b.c. Manages to ensure that the pay is or becomes far more far more equal sure I mean that's the job of M.P.'s and of course the M.P.'s were showing off a bit in the Commons today that they they love to give the b.b.c. a Bit of a kicking but I think that's required. Ysaye has made a lot of arrests on gender equality equality in general but it's a very slow job and I don't think they move fast enough babies he should be really out there leading even if that means you know treading on toes annoying some of their stance I think they really should have pushed much much harder on this that the baby sees our public service broadcaster it's part of our cultural life it sends huge signals about you know what's important and it's you know pub our society we as the public we pay for it I think they should've been a lot bolder and I think they just got caught up in the internal broke see the internal culture of the b.b.c. Trying to sort of 2nd guess everything when they should taken more risks to be bold be brave and be a great example and you think a license fee payers will will feel about going. Well partly I think they probably ignore it they're being you know do I care about the internal b.b.c. Pay structures on the other hand I think that you know a lot of people see this is a kind of justice issue and they think you know this is very strange that the b.b.c. An organisation that they respect and they all chewed into they do expected more of this and I think a lot of them also just as a money issue they'll be quite shocked high salaries paid to people who are doing you know a journalistic job and I think a lot of women out there I thought Kerry Grace was great on this and she was talking not about the stars this is about all the b.b.c. Workers the female workers you know why they are they all getting a fair deal or not and I think that may chime with people across all sorts of different sectors it's not just the stars you know the female big names this is about gender equality and pay equality generally across the board just just widening this out slightly I mean if we look to America you see a journalist and in the news Plaza like Katie Couric for example who was on millions of dollars before she she left her role why does it happen there is is the culture different or is it just a different market. It's a quite different market in America you know obviously they don't have public servant service broadcasting on the other hand I think in some ways America is a more advanced people are much more conscious about gender equality I don't against the hold me to thing but I think that's raised the whole idea that we've got a. Bunch of male managers who have not been aware of treating people equally not only it's just a question of justice I think it's a real waste of talent if we're not making the most of everybody's talent female and male Charlie I'm going to wear make you the director general of the b.b.c. Now just for the next dance what would what would you do differently what would you do tomorrow what I do I would make sure. I would have really tough conversations with male presenters that's the easy bit in the way but I think you got us have some real proper strict parameters much more transparency why do people get the salaries they get and make it public I don't see I don't understand we live in a world where we know what M.P.'s get I think we should know what b.b.c. People get paid to Charlie Beckett a former journalist analogise and professor at the l.s.e. Also runs a journalism think tank called Paul is speaking to me a little earlier about Kerry Gracie's appearance in front of the M.P.'s yesterday afternoon well the ousted Council and President colors put him on has denied giving up on his campaign to lead Catalonia to independence after his private text messages were read out on Spanish t.v. The former separatist leader confirmed he sent text messages to a colleague saying his campaign to be president was over but later he said the texts were a human moment filled with doubts and insisted that he will continue to fight for independence Well the Rogers Center Ridge is a political analyst from Catalonia and he joins us now hello there. About hiring. Very well thanks very well I mean does it look as if Mr Putin wants bid for independence could be over here. It's got to say distilling that a lot of hopes or worse we're having today in Catalonia that in a sense this recession is leaders the independent the only door soft independence movement got to learn and know they. Are chefs trying to find a way to actually make it at. All it will. Honor observers say. 'd assigned Greece some internal division between 2 main parties in the independence movement Republican the left wing can send a. Center right party but. Yes the president is the lead off. Has there do we know anything yet about how these messages actually came to be published on t.v. It's going to KUSA. Drew. Some mystic wish and it actually mean. The former. Government Official that got caught with them. Was showing them sort of us anyway the fact is that he had been a band at the nickel. Former member of the cabin that wasn't of the band to. Embellish it mean looking for a nationalist. Or some astonished media to air crew from the looking call artfully sneak you have him when he when he was checking his cell phone and chest going to the camera the cell phone to. Brazenly what he had on the screen it's the thing is that the messages are so different so perfect that it's well if you sort of surrendered it it's hard to believe that it was as the currents of. The Spanish or know that political cameraman. So the could be something that he wanted these messages to be shown. Could be it. Just the feeling orders is that. Both of us going to. Be basically both parties are so sure looking for a way of having him step aside. Racial government it's just that a great now it's under direct role from the under saddle collar men I meant they get a new president I mean. In a certain position they are not going to get this back to control their situations and as long as Bush the man wants to beat it and did it anyway and as long as consistently had to be a present from bells here. It's going to be almost impossible to get the Spanish central government to relinquish Direct will at all so this is in essence something perhaps of a putsch to the people who are sort of standing by waiting in the wings to take over from callers put them up. There is a whole line of they put them on. One While she spoke it was the 2nd bus will be. The center right party hats be discoverable. For slim margin. They don't know exactly who will be blase it will probably be someone from his party but not a natural here he actually struck Sam who was going to be an m.b.a. This time because they didn't expect to get this good as a result everyone assumed that the Republicans that the left center left are independents part independent this war going to get a wants to win so it's going to be the process of that negotiations do you have an RINGBACK issue on top of that it's that it would mean those are 2 it I mean are these the still need to put so that. Small fringe parties aren't left. For b.s. And look at all of parliament but they are the ones that have to best decisive court and do you have been saying for the past few days that they will 'd only vote for anyone else so if they decide not to support a new candidate we might be you know crying. Trying to find a formula to get him elected or heading to elections and one always takes place a supposed the government in Madrid must be really quite happy about how things ago . I don't know if this wasn't the actual war but they're probably pretty. Or close to gloating. All day today basically pointing out well. Puts them on sas that they have lost or you know it's time for them to. Just come back to or direct situations or. We'll see what happens want to censor it thanks very much indeed for speaking to us he'll pull my political analysts from Cazenovia with the latest on the regional government's attempts to return to power that now Formula One has announced it's going to stop using Grid Girls at the start of the next world championship season the Sun newspaper this morning on its front page describes it as formula dumb The organization says the practice is at olds with modern day societal norms flowery language indeed the decision comes a week of course after the Professional Darts Corporation dropped walk on goals from their events earlier I spoke to Joe Polly about the decision she's a racing driver and has also worked as a great go just just told me your story and it's a very interesting story about how you worked as a as a racing driver and as a great goal and I'm just interested I which came 1st. The Right Thing I was born into right family I grew up with it and I raced during the many stocks from when I was 15. To a few big gaps in the career when I went off and it obvious things pretty much just right to my mind. And a great job came along but like Toronto I was not a fan of The Brady turned Car Championship and I wanted to get involved with it and so I really would have just begun to go wherever I had to do to just get in and get myself a job in the pits and a great opportunity came up so why not give it a go. And yes I did 2 seasons as a great girl and search turned to. Championship so what's the job actually like what does it entail. It's good fun it is a long day you have to be out. Really early to get into the circuit and basically it's making the fan you know the commercial face of the cane READY. You're going to drive the signing of me all the fans than the drivers and and then I see them the one part is when the cars actually go out onto the grid you stand in your drivers quit slot so they know where to pull up and they come around and look for you standing for you not a spot I see they were all taken go to and my driver pulls up to yeah and so I suppose most people's experiences of good girls would be were just before the race when when you see people sort of kind of previewing potentially quite a bit there's a questioning the drivers about the race that's about to happen is that just they're just a small part of the whole day that it is yeah it's quite a long time I return because you have a lot of hospitality guests as well so that's another part of it you'll be all the sponsors and guests on the tie for the state to the 1st big hostess as well is quite a lot more to it than just what you see on the surface when you did it did you feel that you were sort of that you were on display that you were sort of very much there because of the way you looked physically. That's a powerful but you don't really you don't you know just standing there thinking I'm just something for sort of alone and you become one of the claims you get to be really good friends as well as the mechanics than the drivers and. Really family atmosphere so you do just so like one of the team Formula One of course have decided to stop using a grid goes to what would you think of that decision. I think it's a shame relay to be honest I don't know what harm it does. I don't know why people would be offended it's no different to tomatoes selling anything so that. The designer brands use a pretty face to model their clothes it's the same thing you don't think it's kind of that they describe it as being at odds with modern day societal norms I mean it's quite a sort of flowery language but you know I think it's sort of a little out of step with modern thinking not and I think really the modern thinking should be that anyone can be anything that they want to be so if a girl has. Sort of aspirations to be a model or they've got a nice lovely personality and they're pretty looking then why shouldn't I use that to do something that's a fun job and the same for boys for me that there are great boys and I probably know him as one but in turn because we've seen a secret boys' So it's not that it's all one you only have to look a certain way anyone can do it the good boys are there in touring cars but not in f one you think that would be a potentially a change they could make and then and then it would be a lot more acceptable you think possibly yeah. And then you move from the you went from The Good Girl experience and back into racing How do the new how do the 2 arenas differ obviously racing is sort of is why I wired is what I want to my mind my I know why I love doing very clearly when well you know everybody can afford to race and not everyone is lucky enough to be able to do it so being a great girl when I wasn't rising was like the next best thing because you're still involved with you still behind the scenes and is still a part of it. And as a brace yourself have you have you know many good goals and go well with them that sort of thing yeah the lovely girls there's such a great bunch. Be surprised that what interesting different characters there are now to pitch a really really bunch of girls and I'll have no problem with any of them standing in front of my car as a driver the other problem with it so yeah I was going to ask if it was a bit of a bitchy world but. Not in your experience I think not the lovely cows most of them I raise a funding university or college degree or even some of them a full time from my girls which is a really hard job and I have to be nice constantly I couldn't. Really do admire them. So do you think the fall we want to experience will suffer as a result of this decision I do yeah personally find quite dull Anyway I think. Maybe even like you but I think I'm hoping that turns out don't follow that well I don't think they will because it causes a lot more accessible than f one and I do think less than walk on girls for darts in a similar decision about 10 days ago that it was decided by the p.t.c. That they were going to use walk on girls anymore there was a it was a huge uproar in a petition to try to reverse the decision do you think there should be a petition to try to reverse this decision. And I think there are already at safe watching on social media. Yeah it's just the same I mean it's like a place unless you're going to try to the whole of society and brands start using the model to sell think it's just friends that understand what the problem is with their own lives women love lively forcing them to do it it's not like it's degrading to women because they're being forced into it I love doing it racing driver and formula former good girl Joe Polly speaking to me earlier about their decision to prevent or rather stop using great girls in Formula one from the start of next season which begins on the 25th of March be listening to up on I hear all 5 Live is just after $134.00 on the. Violent albums this is b.b.c. 5 Live where the headline says Nick or a she the B.B.C.'s former China editor Carrie Gracie who quit in protest at unequal pay has told M.P.'s the credibility of the Corporation's management has been damaged by the row the director general Lord Hall has denied any gender discrimination trees may signal she'll fight a proposal made by the European Union to ensure full residency rights for each citizens who move to the u.k. During the transition period after breaks it prime minister who's in China said the British people haven't voted in the referendum for nothing to change the president has been stabbed to death would scribes police were called to the west London jail in the middle of yesterday afternoon and M.P.'s have voted by a majority of 16 to leave the Palace of Westminster during its multi-billion pound refurbishment M.P.'s and peers won't have to get out there until 2025 at the earliest this is borne out on the January transfer window has now closed amongst the late deals Newcastle brought in Islam Somali on loan from Leicester who also led Andy King joins Swanzy the Welsh club that resigned on day i.e. From West Ham who replaced him with the Preston striker Jordan Hugh Gill Stoke got bad go and do. I asked Spurs signed Lucas Mora from Paris and your man in the Premier League ball must stand the champions Chelsea with a 3 nil when it's Stamford Bridge the Chelsea boss Antonio Conti says their performance wasn't helped by the transfer window nor the 3 days they had to prepare for the game compared to Bournemouth 10 but refused to use that as an excuse he's not important to speak about alibi. I think it is hard to really stop and now you have to to start to work and to try to do our best and is the city's club record signing I'm Eric Laporte would have enjoyed his debut is there be The West Brom 3 nil to get 15 points clear of the top City boss Pep Guardiola says it looks like a 57000000 pounds well spent the 1st training session nothing just by the pool I think today we saw all of us all the people how good he is 73 years old in the build up in foster the tension was humid an amazing amazing performance or wrestle harder for City extending their leader a top after 2nd place Manchester United lost to nail it spurs who went in front after just 11 seconds through Christian Eriksen own thinking at a better start to a game where you know a big game is and if you score 2 you score as a 10 2nd of course it gives an extra boost and you feel more comfortable for the rest of the game and the thing that helped us a lot all the nurse and anxious whatever it was before the game was which intense against We had Marez so his move from Leicester to Manchester City fall through as he was absent they lost to wanted Everton a finished one all between Newcastle and Burnley and Southampton and Brighton and it was gold as between Stoke and what's that in the Scottish Premiership Aberdeen one for 2 at Ross County to go 2nd Hibs be Motherwell $21.00 was Rangers moved into the 5th round of the Scottish Cup with a 3 nil win it frays Abre the in the defender Gemma Bonner will miss the she believes Cup in the United States after sustaining an ankle ligament problem and every day you can find all the transfer results so. 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Sport website now the Rugby Union the extra pub Alec has been is set to magazine Clint debut against Italy on Sunday and the Newcastle fall comes outside center Chris Harris will make his 1st Scotland start against Wales on Saturday Formula one has decided to follow the example of darts and no longer have grid girls in the sport the 2800 season gets underway in March will be the 1st not to feature promotional models prior to the start of the races will Charlotte gashes a former grid girl she hopes that other sports don't follow suit and deny models the work they enjoy I'm really hoping nothing else does well I would have hoped they started out well the women that do it actually want to be here for we don't thing and it's the sort of thing come for a swim and we don't want to take it away from us on an ice hockey to Milton Keynes lightnings player Matt Nickerson has been banned for 20 games for abusing an official and punching a fan during a match against the Guilford flames on Sunday night's Rugby Union weekly interface and cookies and it's all the Ruby way about him and they listen to him buy a t.v. . 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Talk OTOH you can and will be open the lines later on the number as ever 080-859-0969 extension 34 your calls that's it. 590-9693 Da to call up from just after 3 o'clock here on 5 Live Let's take a look at some of the morning's headlines I've already told you what the Sun newspaper thinks of the decision to end Grid Girls The Times meanwhile describes extremists use schools to pervert education British values being undermined warns Ofsted chief that's their front page formula dump that's the sun now killjoys band grown pretty good girls is getting a lot of traction I have to say this is on the front page of the Express as well which describes it as p.c. P.c. Culture is driving the world mad it's also rather delighted it says that trees make getting tough on migrants picture of the former on good girls on the front of the Metro and also headline is the wheelchair fraudsters 500000 pounds scam she pretended to be paralyzed for 15 years so he could claim benefits says the paper b.b.c. Woman on the March is the front page of The Daily Telegraph a few of the women who were accompanying Kerry Gracie yesterday to her house of commons Westminster questioning there on the front page of The Daily Telegraph and some of the other newspapers this morning The Guardian says M.P.'s voted to leave Westminster for an urgent 6 year restoration and we've seen those programmes about just how crumbling the Palace of Westminster is will maybe support that decision holds in all sorts of strange places Daily Mirror please don't switch off our boys life support our broken Mum and Dad's last bit last ditch bid to save their 20 month old son alarming toll of wine o'clock is the Daily Mail's front page as heavy drinking becomes the 6th biggest cause of serious illness amongst the baby boomer generation is also going with health stroke warning for the over forty's is the front page on that newspaper let's see what's making the news on the back pages of The Daily Mirror Meanwhile after a fairly massive day for football on and off the pitch the Daily Mirror's Alan McKinley spoke to me earlier Oh I know it's a lot of all the headlines look away now teachers are Antonio completely out of the . As well as much as you guys went about Phil Jones he said in his hands of a different guy Chelsea lost 3 nil hard to Bournemouth and was probably the shot was all of the season certainly want to major in the jumpers that kills it among the most embarrassing knife in Chelsea's modern history bomb a string of coastal region we have a cog in run but to lose to win 3 to let you know he was absolutely extraordinary was nil nil half time in Chelsea was with every click and to get to ahead of the 1st half and then Callum Wilson School triple net after that it was all downhill for Chelsea I'm afraid a genius on its last school again and then just to rub it in the form of Chelsea defender knife and netted a 3rd to 3 minutes later 3 inflict a human hence the headache comes a headline inside quite remarkable result that was a now a 15 point gap at the top of the Premier League as well yes it is when United Yahshua Wembley got a good record at Wembley across an even better record installed in Austria the last night. Phil Jones hit the ongo off a 28 minutes. Which made it to nil because it taught them to lead us to 11 seconds which is the 2nd half of this Premier League go have a score and a strong cross to point out any and much for there been some wonderful highs in Terry summer in your glorious career this will go down as well the all time lows was inflicted humiliation on his was as comprehensive the thing as murdering our suffered during an 18 month rain all traffic what you think went wrong with Chelsea and Manchester United last night well it does seem to be quite a lot of things going on at Chelsea down there other countries are under pressure. All has been putting his own pressure on himself really by complaining about other than not them signing enough players. Isn't the case Olivier surely one of the Flies I saw I was watching in the stands last night. His protest about not being happy with his squad and the father having the final say on your side has revealed some rift and that usually. Will certainly heighten those beliefs and of course she owes you a bonus if you're Champions League clash with Bosler and you would imagine it's possibly only getting through against the mighty boss learned probably persuade contagious things Joe it's more likely just like the border to keep him it's such a contrast between this season and last of course the writing from really champions you know way of getting that again this season well what it does mean if you look at the age very interesting now it's the Premier League table you've got the city running away with it then you go united $53.00 points separate 5 clubs United Liverpool Chelsea and so on them and that race for the sun is going to be the 3 Champions League places between the 4 clubs so I would ask him to be going to be a fascinating right because Tottenham themselves without to know when or United to put the pressure back on little Phil is going to cause a tussle between Chelsea and talk about Liverpool probably in the neck and neck during most of the a will continue to have it and seems to be a good one is not yet a school 2 goals last night against Leicester City have a 11 to one and whatever the fear was starting to do well for Arsenal at the get will call in the other European Championship a World Cup squad bandwagon rolls up once more and I think that could be the case again we're talking about. Riad Maurice who was on our back pages Well he was just 19000000 pounds by Legacy well as stated a lot of points I have largely Savoy's we were not given an Everton a call ball getting 20000000 pound Theo Walcott he scored twice. But he left a 21 for the story about the Leicester is all about rehab Maurice who didn't play we've got him on the back pages Well I will never play for you again says Maurice he's never shown I'm left after he regards them having priced him out of a move to mice to city said he wanted to pay $6.00 would have been willing to pay $60.00 last August for 9 say. And just like you say having 4 different states to be increasing every time it wasn't going to last I'm on tomorrow which part of that I didn't turn up for training. And then take it for the match and then last night didn't lie. In mind. Friend to react Martin Scorsese. Very depressed I was half an hour for trying so in the letter it certainly they would have made 59000000 times profit and it doesn't really make any difference last time but I want to show you that I don't have. A Macand they from the Daily Mirror talking to me about what's on the back page of that newspaper this morning well have you ever been on holiday and had your luggage lost missed 2 flights or of ended up the worse for wear perhaps even in hospital did you claim you travel insurance and if so how far did you get last year 3000 complaints about travel insurance were made to the Ombudsman and in nearly 40 percent of cases it ruled that insurers had not treated their customers fairly So would you accept a no alcohol clause and your insurance policies to make things more transparent that was price is a travel writer and then up all night regular This is what the travel insurance companies would have think really but how can they possibly control it or even know what you've been up to when you make that claim in the morning all for once and say with so that's a problem with this I think just describe the 2 cases that we've got here because there's one cases in the where someone have been to a nightclub and had a drink but wasn't drunk and they got to pay out and it was another one where someone was very very drunk and didn't get a payout is because that's really the question is Where do you draw the line exactly and there's 2 problems here there's one that the travel insurance companies are sort of getting slightly in mobilizing and controlling people behavior and passing judgment on what people go out to and what you say well you know wondering to somebody not my mom for example. Well if my husband. If you just you know. Saying Oh we had 10 folks. Even to take some control and and some responsibility for your own actions like you can't just be claiming for everything just because you got a bit squiffy then someone else like you know in the survey said. They might have tripped over something just by accident so he's going to police it and then the next problem is with child insurance companies can then start saying well they can start commenting on other people's behavior clothing you know what if you're wearing high heels the chip out and they could say well if you'd been wearing sensible shoes you knew you wouldn't fall and they were and then where did it end like you say where do you draw the line I suppose there's a cause in the for a no alcohol clause or the potential for no alcohol kills in travel insurance agreements does not sound like a go it's all because can't see that working it through because. I mean to talk about British. Who's going to I'm not you know and then what if you do. You know you're on holiday in new changes in a co-op in the front of the only thing or just have a quick Margarita you're going to truly say no I can't possibly have that margarita because I thought. You know to close in my child an insurance document I don't think anybody say anything going to take it seriously and then again how do they have insurance companies sus now after the fact I don't know how they work that out with a guy that was apparently steaming drunk if he'd fessed up or somebody snitched on him you know saying how can it possibly be policed by a travel insurance company and I don't know something where you are living it up in the Caribbean I think the way they did it is that the doctor's notes and the doctor had said this man was 10 was presented to me with acute alcohol intoxication and he was clearly steaming drunk is a medical Well isn't the medical term is the opposite of the medical term but I think that's that's the sort of length that they go into and I suppose that's not surprising is it that they're not going to pay out and therefore have to raise other people's premiums a mess. They have to I can see that they would take that law and with maybe a very extreme case like that because it's clearly his fall and he needs to put his hand up and say Ok I was steaming drunk but I suppose you're going to have to do it all on a case by case basis which is just not feasible so I think really sensibly they're going to have to just factor by into premiums on one thing well they will be a few steaming drunk but we can really start punishing people for having you know getting a bit tipsy on the 100 day do you have any sympathy with the insurance companies too long that it's quite hard to have to keep insurance general but I can see that in a difficult position and I don't like the idea of people litigious society and people looking for someone to blame just because they got drunk and so I think yeah you have to take a little bit of the sponsibility so I suppose I do have some sympathy for them I call imagine may waking up with a terrible Highgrove and then thinking Oh. You know you know claim something you know seems crazy doesn't it so I think that it's an element of. Responsibility Yeah I understand some of your friends have actually play moment travel insurance what were their experiences laws Yeah I've never had to make a claim and touch wood I saw I've been very fortunate and done some quite sort of whisking things. But I both once traveling with a girl and she was most likely we both most likely and she crashed into a cliff face 1st and was I mean I would have died had it not been for the local emergency service and this was in Bolivia you know not very easy place to get help it is a very remote part of benevolence on the Sunday there even it just so's you know that we're going to think so she was rushed to the hospital in the capital city which was several hours away and her insurance company paid out for that and she had been upfront about what she was doing with them and I think that's a crucial thing isn't it you say I'm going most talking believe you well someone will insure you for anything if you're willing to pay the price so maybe this will end up being you know do you. Really you Paul. If you take that you pay an extra $5.00 you know if you go you know it may end up being in the way that we pay extra for winter sports for whatever yeah I mean I was going to ask about that because I mean I always take the winter sports books because I love my skiing and that sort of stuff but if you're going and doing something a little bit more unusual like as you say motorcycling in Bolivia is it possible just to get a worldwide policy for that or is that something that you really need to be very specific about with your insurer you do need to be very specific if you have a look at the kind of high street insurance sometimes I would say includes a motorcycle but then you read the fine print and it's often only feel like a small moped like a 5050 thing that you might hire for a day in Thailand or something that you know fun little one amount on the beach but if you're doing a long distance motorcycle trip or and you know dedicated journey on a motorcycle then you need to be looking into more specialised insurance and like I say you will find companies that will do it and obviously it's more expensive than you know the. Regular holiday insurance but it's worth it I think if you're doing something like that like like you say winter sports are most likely away anything that could be how the deuce do you know if the complaints about travel insurance are actually rising because it's been about well in 40 percent of cases for example insurers have been treated customers fairly we surprised by the yeah I've read about this recently and I know there's been a lot of increases in the claims for food poisoning abroad and that is again it's a tricky one because how do you please or how do you prove what you and do you do you need to have a doctor's certificate you know so I think I'm sympathetic with the insurance on this one in you know they they don't want a lot of people discounting and thinking Oh they can go back home and say you know I was a bit sick so can I get out my money bag so it's a difficult balance in that fact for everybody really because we don't want all our travel insurance premiums going up so we do have to be a little bit fatter I think and again it comes back to not taking responsibility you know if you do something about it if you know eat a Big 3 food in India as I did when I was a. That and all this if you're not 24 hours later are going to write but I would never even occurred to me to claim on my show and it was just a lot of bad luck so I think that that has to be an element of that you have to you know especially if you're going further afield so I've been you know a poor North America and you got to take it on the chin when things go Ok that's what. You know if Paul Paul just fallen and you know quite know what's going to happen it it being different kind of I'm not saying that just if you have to say the fact that you know if you get a degree tell me after eating or you know something well I'm going to India really so your advice then to 20 perspective travelers is that travel insurance is worth the p.d.f. File it's printed on. Yes it's worth it but I would be careful to read the fine print especially if you're doing anything out of the ordinary then I would absolutely safe with you as I saw with if this friend of mine who had the terrible question and they covered everything you know covered in all of their medical costs in the hospital it's moving enormous Not financially and I would think all completely covered because she'd gone to a specialist and go to you know laid out and it worked perfectly for her but then all of a scene at Lowell. High Street cheaper ones and if it's cheap enough or with the warnings kind of new you have to sort of make sure that you are covered what you are actually going to get and I think on the whole insurance company that you have about the changes they're trying to wiggle out of things be careful I was prize a travel writer and a policeman regular speaking to me a little earlier well let's talk to the Boston Globe's David dull to see what's in the paper this morning hunted David Hi How are you doing very well thanks concerns about the reports into Steve Wynn on the stand that's right Steve Wynn probably one of the best known to see no magnates tycoons call much will in the u.s. And around the world he's big in the last. Vegas he's big in Macau and he's building a $2400000000.00 hotel casino here in Massachusetts just north of Boston. The as everybody probably knows by now The Wall Street Journal a few days ago. Delivered a bombshell report allegations of years of sexual misconduct complaints by his employees primarily in his last Vegas casinos that's of of concern to casino regulators here in Massachusetts and our news for the Boston Globe and Boston Globe dot com is that these regulators are are basically telling the to when board the wind resorts board that they need to take this very very seriously and how they handle this how they handle the behavior allegations against Steve Wynn will go a long way toward deciding how Massachusetts considers their casino license that what that license has been approved but it's it has there's a clause in the casino laws that talks about the quote unquote suitability of the the license holder and one could see an argument here that the gaming commission in Massachusetts decides that these allegations to demonstrate that perhaps he is not suitable What would happen next is sort of. Hard difficult to say we haven't certainly have not gotten at far and the commission is not saying that they would yank his license by any mean beans what they are saying is to quote the commission's chairman Steve Crosby the people of Massachusetts have a right to know what the heck happened here he called the accusations appalling and deeply troubling the governor of Massachusetts Charlie Baker just a few days ago said basically the same thing no one yet is calling for his license to be told. You know you've got a situation here sort of similar to to trump in a way where disbands name is on the side of the building and I'm told that his signature is actually the logo for his company so it's a situation where he is closely affiliated with the brand of of when resorts it's named for him when was this casino due to be completed in and start operating I think we're talking about 2019 it's about halfway halfway for finished June 29th teen Massachusetts voters approved legalized gambling a few years ago there's a casino being built west of Boston but this is sort of going to be the big jewel 2400000000 dollars hotel and casino kind of you know sparking a review of a cafe cation of an area in Everett which is north of Boston that's a little downtrodden So this this could be a very big deal and we've had many stories about how fancy is going to be and all that sort of thing he usually goes all in on. The designs and whatnot that's going to be a pretty tall building but he if one doesn't know what could happen next depending on what this what this review would be the gaming commission here says it's going to be covering a big be conducting a review but they're also saying when resorts you need to clean up your act Tell us what you're going to do about all of us have a dollar from the Boston Globe thanks very much we'll keep an eye on that story after 2 is there an empty Trump bias at the f.b.i. The organization wants to prevent Republicans from releasing a memo which could suggest that they just might be we'll hear about the u.s. Couple who just made the biggest ever the nation millions of acres of land and they've given it to the government in Chile and we'll also be looking at the big stories in astronomy including the discovery of the oldest ever galaxy and we'll be focusing too on the week in Science. 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