In the faeries just Eurostar saying reduce service because the strike action in France will travel in 20 minutes b.b.c. Radio Kent call Steve 4 minutes past 11 Stephen for Jules until midday today and would have been talking about wide array of subjects in a moment we're going to continue our conversation about trolling and online abuse at social media we spoke to David Baddiel in the last hour comedian author broadcaster and how he deals with them and he says it's like dealing with hecklers when you're doing a live show he's going on tour and that's kind of what his show is going to be all about but how do you get on with it you know are there good ways of dealing with it you know have you been a victim of online abuse this is stuff that you know people wouldn't say to you face because I've seen I've been in the same room as people I know have trolled me and they haven't dared say anything at all. It was very funny for me and it made me laugh so that means that I want thank you very much indeed we're going to continue that conversation with Ben Kelley deputy social media editor at The Independent newspaper shortly also talking about pets on the program this morning more pets were dumped in Kent last December than anywhere else in the country according to the i.r.s. Pca I mean talking about re homing whether it's something that you have done you've been to one of these centers that you've really honed at how simple Was it how did it work out for you to do you think that feel that you were being given the 3rd degree it was like an interrogation almost And is that right or is it wrong personally Actually I'm thinking it's right because these animals and these people who are. Passing these animals on to us they need to be sure that they're safe that they're going to be happy that they're going to be content. I think that's that's kind of the crux of it all and also coming from of the other side have you ever owned a pet and you've had to give it up heartbreaking it can be absolutely heartbreaking if you have to whether it's for financial reasons maybe you moved your circumstances changed completely. Used to be in the day a was have you to give company an exercise to a but then everything changed. Maybe the behavior changed in time and it was just impossible. 10756. Text as well as a 13 double 3 Start your message with the word can't and email morning. 756. 0 text to. Steve b.b.c. Radio trends. Are Blimey haven't played on the radio for a few years a corner shop roomful of Asher here on b.b.c. Radio past 11 is the time Stephen for Jules till 12 today taking your calls keep the lines coming and 10756 Hey double one double one now then we've been talking about social media we talk about trolling we had David Baddiel on in the last hour and as a comedian he's saying it's part of the job to deal with hecklers. He says in this modern era along with everyone else on social media they have to deal with trolls too and he says you know he's had his fair share of trolls but he's attempting to turn the joke on them during a $52.00 day tour which kicks off in general has to say it's going to be in Dartford and Folkston in the new year so you'll be able to catch up with that if you're a fan of David's work but have you ever been the victim of online abuse how do you deal with trolls on social media I was saying earlier we we've we get probably more than our fair share here of b.b.c. Radio Kent we get people with ill informed opinions and. You know they try to shoo other people down when people join in a conversation whether it's on Facebook or on Twitter some of it's quite foul language that they use. They're normally terrible at spelling you know that's their fault and don't even talk to me about grammar and punctuation with some of these morons. And then Kelly is the deputy social media editor at The Independent joins me now hello Ben good morning morning to you David Baddiel dealing with trolls in the same way he tackles head closed is that a good way of handling them. Well it's not wrong I think the same kind of real life problems you know nothing each other fundamentally but someone's going to you know stick there over and attack someone like whether it's in real life or on social media they've got to. Take it back as well I think and if you can find any way of dealing with that which obviously he has a lot of other sort of well known people do as well on social media then I think that's all right that's all the fair game. Yeah I think if you get involved you're going to get it back yet you've got to be able to take it if you can if you're going to give it in the 1st place absolutely have we seen other people doing this I'm someone who springs to mind would be James Blunt to who seems to this way of destroying trolls yeah he kind of yeah you're right kind of. And it's quite novel because we can't afford this being wishy washy and you know wishy washy music and he starts putting these are things I think of one where some of the tweeted him saying you know change don't ask God to read 4 songs in an irritating voice and he just wrote back saying no mortgage. Is perfect and no one gets hurt you know and he's kind of the person quite perfectly really yeah he does a very very well obviously there of a celebrity you know we won't name names but let's look at the president of the United States or Good Morning host so you know just get quite nasty and it's sort of the sense of I think that never really entertaining nor productive really no absolutely there is a fine line though isn't there because you know some of the stuff that goes on is quite abhorrent my other half she's she's in the been in public life and she's had death threats rape threats you know people saying I'm going to throw acid in your face and all sorts of things nasty things like that she generally just. Ignores them and blocks them and moves on which is great I was saying when I was chatting with David Baddiel in the last hour I was saying I just get angry and he said no you must again you know yes you can feel natural anger but you mustn't get angry with him because I like that and yeah absolutely it's like that old thing about you know don't wrestle with a pig because you both get modern but they'll enjoy it. And I think the thing is well you got to remember it's hard to take into account when it's your family or yourself but the kind of level of things people are willing to say or put on the Internet is so much higher than what they'd ever do in real life or say in real life you know it's all keyboard warriors and the 4th sort of false bravado so you have to catch take it with a pinch of salt on this lay the kind of things that some of our elected representatives have been subjected to in terms of as you say death threats rape that whatever they have to be taken very seriously because that is a big deal but a lot of these people are just you know it's just a front really that you know they're there they're nobodies they don't intend to follow through on any of it but it's still really horrible and I think that yeah that's the natural side of a taking aside the sort of the comedy and the jokes and chides that's where you know you really have to kind of say Ok you know but then equally that kind of public figures don't sort of back with equal venom I think that's the right place all the time as we say this is too far. You know. The Genie I suppose is out of the bottle we can stuff it back Eden but what can we do to perhaps make social media a nicer place is there anything that can be done. I don't like to go down the role of you know enforcement and things like that because you know there's always that whisper of of censorship creeping in there but what can we do to make it a better place well it's sort of incumbent on us as a culture I mean we created this culture so we've kind of got to fix it as you say there's not going to affect like nothing was lost per se I think social media has quite a good way of regulating itself I think I think of examples. Say for example someone who is particularly nasty or older or offensive on social media or has threatened someone and being called out and maybe losing their job or being shown up by their lawyer to their family or something like that in a thing happens quite a lot in the kind of call it's cancellation culture and again that raises questions over aspects you know are we always responsible for certain things we've said on social media but that kind of thing does happen a lot and I think that makes people think twice before they do this kind of thing if everyone can see that I've written one of the consequences for me and so I think that kind of thing sometimes sort of comments on what those sort of catch people are it and it should make people think twice about what they write and not the ultimate solution that you know but I think that there is a bit of that I think that sort of shaming. Is a way forward and also leading by example you know it's like I said we've got people like let's say Donald Trump you know tweeting really nasty things and sometimes threat you know political opponents or even just you know the celebrity doesn't quite like the kind of endorse trickle down and it makes people think oh well if he's doing it and gets away with it then why can't i trickles all the way don't you know our teenagers and kids the people who use the most and they're entering into this world where they see that as being normal and so yeah we have to change the tone from the top to not kind of comment on everyone and public life and everyone's got a voice severe Yes because I suppose if we start reacting and interacting with these people you know most risks normalising in they'll just think that that's fine isn't it yeah and you know sometimes when you get something like James Bond to a snake end of quote treat someone else all of a laugh that's kind of fine but if someone let's say for example someone's got an egg for a profile picture and they've got enough 3 followers Mitch will do something completely nasty amuse them quote tweet it out to your let's say hundreds of 1000 followers you amplify their voice in a way that would never happen in real life no one's listening to this person no one cares about this person so I think we have. Make sure that you know if we're on the ceiling and asked us to react rationally by kind of either way 'd giving them a better platform or throwing people to the wolves which can also be a low but you know if someone said something you don't agree with me sort of we shared our common to retrieve their common they then might find themselves on our lunch of you and your farms or your followers that's another sort of thing that happens so it's very difficult to wade through but I think that it's absolutely important people like are looking at us so does some it up social media force for good force for bad. I ask myself that question every day when I thought of my death . I think it has it's like the answer that general like humanity in general has got to be for great things but you know we're going to have to put a few fires along the way I think I still believe in the good of Ok Ben good one thank you very much Ben Kelley deputy social media editor at The Independent thanks for joining us this morning any comments you have to what you just heard give us a call I wondered 756 double on the one Bush Johnson's name so he's trying to change the law to insure the breaks it has to be completed by the end of next year even if the u.k. Hasn't got a trade deal with the European Union by then opposition parties are accusing the prime minister being reckless we can talk to Professor Richard Whitman shortly professor of politics and international relations at the University of Kent Right now though it's 1120 here on b.b.c. Radio Kent Stephen for Jules and Esther has the headlines I can't jail for young offenders has been criticised if a serious concerns about the treatment of children and offset report found the Medway secure training center is easing pain inflicting techniques on children and there's been a significant rise in the use of force the Ministry of Justice says it recognises that mu needs to be done and the sense is scheduled for closure next March in order for improvements to take place the beautiful city with a number of boats with migrants on board of the Kent coast this morning this year more than 50. 100 migrants have risked their lives crossing the Channel to count in small vessels newly elected does that in detail m.p. Natalie Elphick has sought an urgent meeting with the home secretary pretty Patel more pets were dumped in Kent last December than anywhere else in the country there were $73.00 reports of abandoned animals in the county in the final month last year nearly $5000.00 animals were taken in by the r.s. P.c.a. Across the country last December it was their busiest Christmas Day in 5 years. 800 miles of road works will be finished or lifted in time for Christmas highways England have confound they're hoping to have 98 percent of motorways and major a roads clear helps me the journeys over the festive period between Friday the 20th of December and the 2nd of January we're being asked to check our vehicles before we embark on long journeys almost half of all breakdowns are caused by simple mechanical faults and now with a look at Kent's weather today his cake and cellar outbreaks of rain really coming and going through the course the day some light and patchy some a little heavier and more persistent the winds reasonably light the way the temperatures staying chilly temperatures getting somewhere between $6.00 and $9.00 Celsius overnight the rain clears east sky clears temperature drops down into low single figures and under the clear skies we could just see a little mist unfold for me. From b.b.c. Radio Kent for days on the eastbound and Susan was junction 5 almost 20 minutes down so one lane the carriage where the I'm sue for emergency repair works for closure will be needed later on today according to highways England but the moment just a lifeline closed in 20 minutes Eliza say busier than usual it's only a 2 heading to rain and then sitting born possibly avoiding the most who are able to flee avoiding most weather and it's only a $21.00 just south of the blue boys round about sorry south of the school because around about recusing both directions really slow from friends towards Tunbridge Wells towards Bonnie lying possibly downs or sets of roadworks 846. Southbound between the roundabout and monks way for the emergency repairs to the trains and ferries no reports of problems by James will be more in 20 minutes home 104 point us 10 in Rennes gate with stable and I'm to cross West all 96.7 f.m. This is b.b.c. Radio can. Dominate King's show bringing together the op's life in Kent live music and conversation you do have an amazing amount of different ladies of opposing are found well as a match to you a job at least 3 positions on occasion having money is not. For you to tell your story hiking. Public about that you meet on the way make. Back the Dell Mini King show this evening from 6 b.b.c. Radio can't see. This. Right Track ha. Ha ha. Knowledge away well I know. He still have a. Small piano but the knowledge. and the e-mails that we've had today thank you very much indeed it's been a bit of a mixed bag this morning we go back to pets shortly but let's go back into the world of politics just briefly shall we Boris Johnson is planning to pass a law guaranteeing the brakes it transition period cannot run be on the year end of next year even if the u.k. Hasn't got a trade deal with the European Union by then. The Prime Minister's had his 1st meeting of the new cabinet this morning and European leaders are saying that it might not be enough time to complete a comprehensive trade deal the opposition parties are accusing the prime minister of being reckless Richard Whitman is professor of politics and international relations at the University of Kent joins me now morning to you Richard nice to talk to you again what do you make of it all it's not really much of a surprise really is it well I think it's more for our benefit I mean meaning we elect. 'd partly because what he's doing is he's putting down a marker and this is you know it's merely a. General election campaign which is you know I'm there's going to be a full stop at the end and I'm making very clear that this is a stock you know the length of time that we've got to do so. And I think that's well if you believe the message that the electorate sent to the politicians last week that that's going to go down very well in a lot of quarter's. I think you know I mean we are still in a way in election mode because the government is still settling and we know we're going away with this cabinet reshuffle and you know this is really I think setting up. Some of the. After practicing you know after the end of January and you know if you go with that slogan which was very successful with the conservative party last. Year we want to say to people well we're going to get but it might not be in the next calendar year might be that long. But yeah basically he he got elected on that message and that's what he's got to deliver now particularly for a lot of those seats in the north of England that were leaf supporting seats that he took took from labor last last Thursday. The you mentioned the the cabinet reshuffle. And interesting that he's keeping and he Morgan is Culture Secretary this is she's kind of in a holding pattern though I think isn't she. She is well I mean she's you know she says obviously I got a much smarter suit of clothes to wear I think remember number the House of Lords a Christmas tree as well. But you know it is it's very unusual thing to do. And but I think it also demonstrates the confidence song part of government to do that and is willing to write you know any minute controversy that might be associated with us another signal is you know is the government saying that actually we want talent where we believe we can get challenged and that maybe from putting people into the Lords as much as having people who are members of parliament it's interesting isn't it because because Gordon Brown did this when he was prime minister he used the expertise of not only people from his own party but you know across party people with relevant experiences who were in the House of Lords and just because you come here you come to the other place it doesn't mean that your experience your knowledge and your skills you know die a death is it now absolutely and you know one of the striking things if you look across the membership of the House of Lords in the if you look at the work of the House of Lords particularly the Lords committees very often produce absolutely the reports because you know the people who are in those committees are probably done that work for work in that area for their entire working life and so they've got a lot to say but but there is also of course I guess the kind of holding to account I mean if you have if you're killing people in the Lords do you hold a sort of cabinet level jobs and then that looks a bit odd in the kind of democracy that we are. It doesn't look odd or is it just what we've been used to maybe it's you know. A change that we will get used to. Well I think it's it's I mean I think if some of these groups although he probably has the electorate feel pretty content we've got a good person in that role I think if it looks a bit more like cronyism you know you're having people who are serving in the cabinet that are sort of dodging being elected and then that probably would make people feel uncomfortable I think that he is striking a balance Ok let's move away from the conservatives let's move to labor and Jeremy Corbyn is going to address his M.P.'s tonight for the 1st time since the election. What's he going to say is going to say sorry. Probably not. I certainly not what we've seen and you know Labor has moved on to quickly hasn't it from the general election result through the plain going through to the leadership contest not officially started but on the way and this is going to be a bit of a struggle in that for the heart and soul of the Labor Party because as we know you know the majority of labor employees are essentially It's not clear when it's called and so when supporters but a group of rank called Women and supporters in the party obviously want to hang on to the leadership so I think we can get a very very rough ride and clearly there are going to be the reality collation of those those opinions we're seeing expressed and that we can use to go in needs to take because I think there is this while you that's you know part of the party would sort of intention itself and run the leadership contest to their advantage front runner at the moment I suppose to replace him as Rebecca long Bailey but she's she's cut cut from the same cloth she would be called been probably chosen candidate I would assume at the moment that that won't help them out as a party at all if they're seen by the electorate to be little or no change in what they're offering but I think you know Labor needs to post a message and the message it does now. And. Clearly was misplaced and let's none successful messenger program was as much of a problem so I think you know the same offering with with a different person this is not. For them and it's going to be a long who like you know or something we now know high school a general election lady I believe he might suppose. The next 5 years yeah I suppose it could be almost a transition transitional leadership and we could potentially have $22.00 leaders by the time we get to the next general election is very very interesting and it's pretty interesting the mood of the parliamentary party isn't it because you know the majority of the parliamentary party perhaps was an odds with the general membership of the Labor Party. They were and you know they they survived you know sort of research action battle ski resort we're going to host we select. Particularly those who cannot see the other side of all of this course is that labor and police are also now likely to side yes so they can afford to be a little bit difficult with the leadership they feel as if the court believes that it's also costly that they want so I think we're going to continue to see quite a lot of discipline in the labor force that's being qualified solicitor and this is continuing so the division really between the comments reports the ones and that's what the policy in the country wants and you know who the membership is that's not in the countries that would lead Labor to Pekin I joined It's not have an impact on the leadership contest Well that's what the various factions in the Labor Party are encouraging their supporters to do isn't it a I had this conversation yesterday it's almost as if there are there are massing troops on either side of the battlefield Absolutely I mean it's it's as we know I mean Germany called in was elected and reelected because it was a very effective mobilization and an increase in the current membership to keep them in a position and I think having seen that experience overseas opponents are trying to say we need to see the things that us know which is you know build up the size of the electorate and build a let's. Be fair in the direction you want which is. A leader that reflects a different kind of vision of labor most of the center center left rather than left leadership Well we shall see what happens but he will be talking about what's happening in the Labor Party for some time to come Richard always good to talk to you thanks very much for the catch up rich women professor of politics and international relations at the University of Kent speakeasy ready again 24 minutes to midday. Talking of pets we will be revisiting our conversation on pets and re homing in a wee while from now more pets were dumped in Kent last December than anywhere else in the country according to the ice pca which I caught up with them a wee while ago a 10756 double one double one if you want to discuss experiences re homing pets and if you ever owned a pet new had to give it up must be absolutely heartbreaking for you and tell us a story about it and how did it all end up being or was it financial woes of the animals behavior or just change of circumstances really 10756 double one double one of the number to ring from Texas a 13 double 3 study message with the word Kent and you can e-mail it can mid-morning b.b.c. Doc ek 1140 is the time we got to travel on the way 1st of all let's get an update on the headlines now with Esther Johnson's cabinet has met for the 1st time this morning he's planning to add a closed his withdrawal agreement guaranteeing that Bracks it talks cannot run but past December 2020 critics say it reopens the possibility of a new that the Ministry of Justice says it. Recognizes that more needs to be done as a cancer jail for young offenders amid serious concerns about the treatment of children there an Ofsted report found Medway secure training center is using pain inflicting techniques on children and there's been a significant rise in the use of force more than 800 miles of road works will be finished or lifted in time for Christmas highways England have confirmed they're hoping to have 98 percent of motorways and major a roads clear to help smooth the journeys over the festive period between Friday the 28th December and the 2nd of January consider the day quite mild cloudy and rainy highs of around 11 degrees centigrade Now Ben has the sport King cricket delis gone through to a half century after lunch on the 1st day of England's opening tall match in South Africa the tourists are $118.00 for one against an imitation 11 the only scored 8 fours in a 6 for his 52 not out so far Tom Sibley still there 145 not out as well he's counted teammate Crawley as unit number 8 can Skipper Tommy Bowman me walls been named in the women's o.d.i. Team of the year for 29 seen she also scored 30 is England beat Pakistan in the 1st t 20 by 29 runs in Kuala Lumpur were forging a boss 80 Penick says the club doing well is good news for Kent the former club captain and center half took charge in January 27th scene and left that September having managed to keep Jones in League One But speaking to b.b.c. Radio can the 48 year olds now focusing on the future having Coach d p m m Brunei to the Singapore Premier League title you're always looking for a result you know and things have been said before but has moved on you know Junior moved on you know people talk Stevens but I think when he carries out in the game and he does a good job he's got West I'm coming up with it which is fantastic you know we're all West Ham fans in can so that's a big game for them but always look for the results quarter to whom I think the county needs Julian to do well and finally came Kings have confirmed they'll be entering a team in speedways National League in 2020 with the senior at sea moving up. The championship for the very 1st time next year the central park based side have also committed to fielding a developmental 2nd same in that division now with more on the weather he's got a rather down Morning this morning the rain turning a little patchier in light of for a time but heavy abbess expected never very far away and it stays rather cloudy temperatures today feeling a little colder than yesterday we're looking at a maximum somewhere between $6.00 and $9.00 Celsius overnight the rain clears temperature drops down into low single figures and will see a night of mist and fog. Travelling from b.b.c. Radio Kent the to is down to one lane eastbound between junctions 4 and 5 it's because of the emergency pothole repairs that are on the way the left lane is closed and there's a queue on the approach. We take about 15 minutes to get through and it's also slow these problem suprising junction 3 no highways England have said they're going to have to close the m. Sue completely to complete these works and at a spa so that it is very slow off the junctions 3 although only sponsored low traffic I think is still coming through on the cameras just off the junction 3 but so I think lots of traffic coming off to avoid the queue further down 829 that's moving very well at the moment nothing from what I can see and can get on the m 20 at the moment so in both directions through the road works between junctions $5.00 and $3.00 now the $25.00 anticlockwise queuing up to the tunnels from just north of junction 3 the Swanley turn off $8056.00 to close southbound some which because of the ongoing repairs Pfizer's down to monks why I was really slow out of France on the 8 to 67 slope to Bunny lane possibly down to some road works for explain a button on the plane that's close with flooding out sue the South Street junction on the trains a good service I'll have more in 20 minutes on the 96.7 s.m. Embrace a tented and I'm. Strewed and across East can own one of 4.2 f.m. This is b.b.c. Radio 10. The wakeup call with here in Alabama we talk to the people that matter on the wake up call we bring you the big issues and talk to the people at the very heart of them every salient story from Kent and beyond from 6 the wake up call with Ian Collins and I'm a Cookson back tomorrow from 6 b.b.c. Radio can. Good morning to you Pat America will be here after the news at midday today hello good morning to you all right so you well know what I mean when I'm standing. That is we have. To think it was the end of. You know one of our hot why not just dandy and been oh yeah that's. 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That I was saying yes they charities do bring out these reports of Christmas because they don't think it is going on in the world but they do say the pets with more pets were dumped in Kent last December than anywhere else in the country $73.00 abandoned animals in the county in the final months of last year they said and we've concentrated quite a bit on dogs this morning let's talk cats now a green firm is manager of bread Cats Protection adoption center Adrian good morning welcome to b.b.c. Radio Kent is it a big problem with cats at the moment well aids are going to be honest it's a problem all its own mean we always have a white English for cats to come into our care I think that's a slightly different dogs and as much as people will abandon their cats they will like we'll put them out and forget about them with dogs obviously not so easy to go . And. Typically what tends to happen is somebody a call us and say well you know we've been fried in the strike out for the last you know a few weeks or whatever. And then we asked him to go on to tight and so the best I can to see if it's microchips 9 times or 10 it's not sometimes we can reunite cats with their owners but that's what tends to happen I mean at the moment white finished is about 4 weeks so if somebody puts a cat on on the list it's going to be 4 weeks until we can take it in but we do have a hell of a lot of strike some of the. I mean we've found homes for nearly $700.00 cats this year already. And the. Ever growing problem can I ask is there still a problem with finding homes for black cats because I've always had black cats and when I've been various rescue centers over the years they've always said oh nobody wanted them because they're black Yeah well yeah I mean. Sometimes it does go like that and there's no run the reason I mean when people come to us we try to match them with the right cat for their family and we say you know look past the collar you know what it looks like except go for the personality because if you want to Cat good for your children you need to look at a cat that's going to be as we children before such. Black cats we have we're finding now that it's not as big a problem as it was maybe 2 years ago or even. And I'm going is it depends how old the cat is and whether it's you know it gets on with dogs cats children except for the older is you know starts a limb limits opportunities for finding a home but generally now I would say no it's not as big a problem as it used to be glad to hear the glass here. You mentioned about you. Whether a Kathy is used to children or no we got 2 cats and I've got a nearly 4 year old and the cats in our house have accepted the fact that this child is in our house for the last 3 and 3 quarter years he visited a friend's house recently and tried to do exactly what he does with our cats and got a bit of a smack from the cat as a result of that because I used to a nearly 4 year old boy you know yeah well if this is a guy and yours is why we try to match the right cat with the right white family because you know. I mean some cats are exceptionally pretty but sickly kittens and again the problem is with adoption the kitten don't know what it's going to be like when it grows up that they do change their temperament employee exactly that and the kittens are not they're easy to everybody wants that lovely bundle of fluff and this is one of the problems with Christmas you know because people will come and I said all I want to adopt a cat as a Christmas present no you can't do that because one of the most important things is that you make the cat before you adopt it to see if you bond with each other and you know again kittens a lovely lovely bundle of fluff and then they go into cats and it might be a cat as you say we're friends it actually start scratching the children 9 times a tennis because it's been told about by the children but yeah Yeah exactly yeah not really fall because it's always the owners you know it's and it's how you know we do we give so much education here because we the worst thing for any cat is to come back into this situation we've got a beautiful center here and I've got the most fantastic group of staff and volunteers to look after the cats but it's not a hug and what we've got remember is that cats come from a home it's coming to here doesn't know why I can go on to another lovely home and then back again that's what we try to avoid because it's so important for cats particular. It's familiarity and that familiarity breeds security as well doesn't it exactly that and cats are very territorial You know that come into an area and I reckon ISIS males it's quite you know I don't want to control them you know so it's important that you know when people come to adopt a cat from us that adopt the right cat and you know we don't do a bad job outside we nearly 700 this year and I think that about 2 or 3 of been rich because it just didn't work I mean we were wise to that you know rather than you know excellent brilliant Adrian really good to talk to you thank you so much for that goes back to what we started the program with really today's news it's all about doing your homework before you get started in there it's good to talk to you thanks for your time he's manager of bread can't protections adoptions. Down. Down. Down down down. Unless. I. I. I. Oh Ok. So. Long Oh. Oh. I. Mean. I think he'll do well at home or can eat and wonderful Christmas time here at b.b.c. 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The border force a dealing with a number of boats with migrants on board off the Kent coast it comes as the French authorities also rescue a group of Cali this morning Alex bass is with me in the studio what we know at this stage well as to the Home Office of told me they're dealing with a number of boats they haven't confirmed the exact number of vessels or the amount of migrants involved I've seen another news agency suggesting several migrants have already been taken ashore a diver I'm still checking that information out earlier this month we had $79.00 migrants arriving in a single day on 5 boats and what's been happening over in France with 10 migrants have been rescued there this morning off Cally in a rescue operation involving a number of different agencies many attempts are stopped in France of course but more than 1500 migrants have made it all the way across the can't miss year despite the huge danger to life in other news Boris Johnson has addressed his cabinet for the 1st time since the election telling them that the Otis had changed the government and his party for the better he said it was now time to repay people's trust we should have absolutely no embarrassment about saying that we are a people's government this is a people's.