On the table and then he changed his mind so to say he's never thought about it probably isn't honest to be honest anyway so today I thought we'd look to Britain's future outside the European Union and after you chilly relationship with America so why is America so important well it's because it's our 2nd biggest trading partner after the European Union and it seems to me that if we are going to make a success of Trek set our future relationship with the us is central to that success jumping when you like 080756 double one double one more question for you is this Are you prepared for Britain to be more closely aligned to America rather than Europe more importantly do you feel a closer tie to America than Europe the language helps of course it's nearly the same you know America and what would you be prepared to accept in any future trade deal because we have to accept with America being the big bigger partner we are going to have to put up with things that we'd rather not do you accept that as a truth that I can see how we can get away from that. 08756 double one double one the promise of a brilliant deal between us and America does sound a bit too good to be true sometimes Here's a bit of an article written by the American network c n n Ok it says rather than walking into a sweetheart deal with the United States the United Kingdom is likely to be confronted by a fall Lanczos of hard nosed American trade officials who will attempt surprise open British markets to more American goods and d. And any deal would need to be ratified by the House of Representatives a body currently controlled by the Democrats who are concerned the proxy could undermine the Good Friday Peace Agreement on the island of Ireland and the more one examines what any trade deal could possibly look like the less attractive it looks like for the United Kingdom that's from the c.n.n. Network the United States famously drives a hard bargaining in trade deals they don't they know that pound for pound access to their market means more to the u.k. Than access to the U.K.'s market means to them and that's been explained that's the view to me tree. A former Australian trade negotiator and founder of explain Trade dot com We're going to be talking to him shortly. The United States also holds all the diplomatic cards as an Iran isn't head of European trade policy at the Institute of Directors told c.n.n. Business it's rarely the one prioritizing a deal in the 1st place other countries often want access to u.s. Markets for political reasons and see it as an expression of alliance all of which means that the United States any negotiate from a position of strength this creates an immediate problem for the United Kingdom America which already has a trade surplus with the United Kingdom $41000000000.00 we sell them $41000000000.00 more in goods and they said us it's not about to grant a trade deal that showers money on the United Kingdom without asking for a lot in return and Washington's demands may not be palatable most notably. As you probably heard before on agricultural goods including food and health care so who holds all the cards who will be in the driving seat when we start to negotiate that trade deal that's what I'm asking today and then I'm asking whether you are happy that our country becomes more aligned with America rather than Europe in the future. Let's speak now to Dmitri. Who is the founder of explain Trade dot com Dmitri very good afternoon to you thank you for joining us let me are going to start with that question to you who will hold most of the cards when we go into that trade deal with America. The u.s. Is going to have 2 things going for it in terms of cards 1st there are bigger markets they have more consumers more people to wife stuff that means that a bit of access to the u.s. Market is more lucrative for the u.k. Then a bit of access the same amount of access to the u.k. Market is for the u.s. So that's one advantage because the 2nd advantage is political I think it's fair to say as an outside observer of your politics that a deal with the us is probably more significant to whoever the next prime minister is especially if the virus Johnson I mean then deal with the u.k. Would be to Donald Trump this last chance in a simply made more of that in his rhetoric and how he's campaign than Donald Trump has domestically so you seem to be saying the they're likely to drive a pretty hard bargain and we may have to accept things that we're not particularly happy about would that be fair but they will definitely drive a hard bargain no one can make you accept anything you don't want to accept the only thing they can do is they can say here's what we want and here's what we're prepared to offer and if you wanted a deal this is what it looks like white house look something similar to Latin Holy moley they can grab the prime ministers pen and put it on the paper no no but we will be more right in thinking that when we leave the Europe we leave on the 31st John we've got to put a trade deal in place with the European Union by the end of the year at the same time while Schumer will be negotiating with the states now there are certain things but the states does and would want access to our markets which the European Union would not accept So doesn't that complicate things so that when we export to the European Union they will be checking things much more closely to make sure none of that forbidden stuff that comes from America if indeed it comes goes to Europe. Absolutely look once you've separated your regime from not of the European Union the European Union will and will in a number of areas say listen you're not one of us anymore so we can just trust that anything that's coming into us through you made our standard because what you've said is you want to have the on standard you want to have your own regime for protesting things and also you will no longer accept the authority of the European Court of Justice if we try to use that to say hey you're not testing the way you promise to test for us so especially if they are painting in feels like the u.k. Is very likely to trigger they're likely to push a hard bargain with the u.k. And saying listen we're going to need to have a lot of a lot of additional screening and checks compared to what you had as a member so we could end up trying to do or do try to do with 2 big trading partners America and the European Union both of which will be in the driving seat even while that is that's what's going to happen when you negotiate with parties that are far larger than. The other thing is of course we we sell America 41000000000 pounds more goods than most of us will want to level the playing field a bit when I. That's certainly the way they trumpet ministration it's been approaching a lot of. A lot of peace negotiations the overall balance is about even because. They sell you more surgical I believe than the other way around but yeah Ok yeah so the other thing is is that I mean that the n.h.s. Has been talked about a lot I mean I think there's a lot of scale stories about pry it out I can't see American businesses running our hospitals but I can see the maybe and tell me if you think I'm right here pitting for services like cleaning which are outsourced anyway which So I don't see why an American company shouldn't bid for that as well as a British company would that be fair. But there are 4 broad things the u.s. Kind of wants or potentially wants out of the n.h.s. Related stuff and we know that because they've said sir and they put out then then the crochet sions so they don't want programs or as you said where the n.h.s. Already has a privatized component life like you said like cleaning services maybe a mix of Radiology a 3rd trial yes the u.s. Want to make sure that when their companies bid for it they can't be discriminated against because then the British you have point one There are Point 2 they will want u.s. Companies to have more visibility and more potential to appeal and to feed into the process of the way and I see prices drugs and when and when and I say look what the drug price should pay in the u.k. Through that process the u.s. Will want as much fainter that they can possibly get including maybe the ability to appeal decisions because that's usually commercially significant. And they want the ability order to have the ability for dark harbor from the u.k. To go to the u.s. Anonymous I don't want to scare people no one can be asking for your personal medical records with on them attached to them to go get sent to Montana with the kind of things they want is for example if a hospital needs a whole bunch of digitising services done they will want u.k. Firms to have the ability u.s. Firms to have the ability to potentially offer that service for that data to temporarily go overseas and they will also want the ability for u.s. Drug companies to buy huge bits of anonymised dart are from the u.k. So as you know 100000 anonymous patient records that's usually valuable to them because the u.s. Doesn't collect that kind of data nationally and it's really useful to do for drug development the region that was really useful thank you very much indeed for starting us off today. Thanks a lot for joining us now let me let me put this out to you that I mean this is not just about trite it's a pal it's about culture in a way and I want to know whether you feel more closely closely at more closely aligned to Americans than you do under to the French will the Germans or anybody in Europe do you feel that we should be more aligned to America rather than Europe to brag 080756 double one Double I'm going to take a break for a bit of music and then we'll come back and I'll give you some more examples of what we might have to accept in that trade deal with the u.s. . Has got West at 16 minutes past 3 on with live from b.b.c. 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And ama wake up call every morning from 6 join us for topical debate discussion and a bit of levity as well but out a smile and a smile is always know there's never a bit of a grain grain I've never seen that you face my crowd that's happening at the wake up call with Ian Collins and I'm a cook said back tomorrow from 6 b.b.c. Radio can it's interesting we're talking about Donald Trump is in town at Ford So I think many of our faults turn to post proxy trade deal with America it's really important why. They are our 2nd biggest trading partner after the European Union but they're all if they there are going to be difficulties because obviously the u.s. Wants the best deal it can get for the u.s. . We currently sell them 41000000000 pounds more stuff than they sell us so their want to level the playing field to a certain extent and they're all things that we do not accept from America at the moment which we may well have to accept in after breaks or when we do a trade deal with America and food is a big part of this I'm sure you've heard much of this before let's just look at food standards in this area Europe's regulations are generally accepted as being stricter than those in the United States and American trade negotiations would doubtless seek to remove some of these barriers in order to sell into the u.k. Market but this is politically troublesome for the u.k. This is again from the c.n.n. Britons a very uncomfortable at the idea of being served chlorine was chicken or homeowner treated beef they're the ones you probably heard about all you actually worried about eating chlorine washed chicken or hormone hormone treated pay for after we do a deal with America because $1.00 assumes that this stuff is going to be included that agriculture is one of the big barriers for us at the moment they want to get their agriculture in to Great Britain. And then he dilution of food standards in the u.k. So that we can accept those products would have wider implications for any trade deal that he could strike with Europe as I was saying to Dmitri earlier on given that chlorinated chicken is banned in the European Union then there are a few animal well welfare standards in the United Kingdom animal welfare is a big deal again this is from c.n.n. The prospect of flooding the country with produce from battery hens or farms that allow bad things to be done to cute animals or to put it would not be popular but the skirmishes over food standards will be nothing compared to the political warfare over Britain's revered national health service which provides health care free at the point of delivery but which has been straining at the cost of doing so and we've already heard well that may doesn't mean that America will be running our hospitals I don't think I think what it does mean is that the cost of drugs might go up because their patents last longer and they may be bidding for services that are already privatized within the n.h.s. Like cleaning I gave training and as an example American firms would be obviously allowed to bid for those contracts so let's take the food to start with. All you would you be happy to buy chlorinated washed chicken or hormone injected big fish they inject beef with hormones to make it grow quicker and therefore they can make more money more quickly so you could argue well what does mean so we have to buy it of course you don't have to buy it but I think the thing that worries some people is that it will it could find itself hidden in other products you know if you make a chicken and ham part I in Britain and you've used chlorine was chicken from the u.s. To make it. How confident are you tat the labeling on that pond would actually inform you that it was chlorine was chicken and how many of us actually read those labels affectively Anyway the other point I think is that if you have hormone injected beef sitting on a shelf in a supermarket next to be from Britain which hasn't been injected with Homans. The American homeowners check to pieces like to be cheaper Ok so have 2 issues here one is the mains poor people will probably buy it poorer people will probably buy it because it's cheaper and they will be eating whole money ject it beef now according to the states is perfectly safe according to Europe it's not. So the poor poorer people would be buying it and of course British beef would be more expensive compared with the whole money check to pay for mom worry about the future of cattle farming in this country so I got 2 issues there so would you buy would you buy chlorine was chicken if it was cheap enough is its price all the matters really I weigh 20756 double one double on this talk to Peter I'm Heather Peter. Would you buy it well yeah if you can hold the turmeric I want you in America. If I'm chilling out anywhere in it well you will yes people don't come back until I know no one knows I don't think chlorine was chicken kills you are the the the problem the problem I have with Cory was chicken is why it's war sting chlorine because of the way that the chickens are yes yes entirely poor conditions yes so I don't really want to eat chicken that's being kept in very poor conditions you don't have to Boy No I don't but what if it's hidden in a chicken a chicken in league part chicken and ham part. Well then you still don't ask about it no I doubt as long as I read the libel very carefully. If you thought I had more expensive one was sane you can probably guess the ingredients to be looked after that I want to guess I want to know really I want to know that my chicken and ham pawn my chicken has not been tortured in the making a lot pawed That's all I want to not be ready so I all I wouldn't buy but you would which is absolutely fine it's it won't I don't suppose it will damage your health we should support you if you if you were not quality to America what would you eat you are quite right I would eat the food I have to eat the food that was offered to me in America of course I would yeah but that's only for to me where it is only 2 weeks of the year. The problem is with what it's all about with the trade Yes Boris Yeltsin's to if you look for in detail say is without prejudice or lie through so we cannot have a deal with American if any bets are than a deal with you or. Without prejudice all the way through it. Well hang on a minute. I think what you what that means is is that you cannot get a better deal with a country that already has a deal with the European Union and America how it goes through without prejudice which. The terrorists are school 3 will stay the same as a year in b.h.a. Our school knowing Chinoy and Bush tried to sign for 4 years after the transition period yes. But it doesn't show much to say. But we won't be following European laws because all rules because we if we can obviously in pork Lorien was chicken all to like the 7 European courts take effect for years to transition I know all that is just for stuff that goes into Europe it doesn't mean to say that we we can still buy chlorine was taken from America and Britain Yes So if you're here it's responsibility to make sure what goes into Europe doesn't have it yes and that's another issue on our response No no. No no but it's another problem you see Peter because what that means is there will have to be more checks if we start making chicken and ham pies in Britain I want to sell them to France for instance playing around to know that there is no chlorine was chicken in it so from what I can make more checks Yes exactly but it's house our exports that will be held up by those checks isn't it now they can come I remain challenged where it's come from a lot less knowing that before it gets in a lorry where you could once again sort of bolt I tell you what it boiled before you bought it Peter I guarantee it will happen that something will slip through that shouldn't have done and they will say right we are going to check everything at the border now. Checking the border because what do you know is going to check it before it gets one on you can always turn it back and say we're not having it you can't bring this into the country which can Yeah well that's what that's what I'm saying I think coal could go to the people that's boring and so you know why you bring me stuff expenses down to the company Boeing Yes and if they say well we were told it wasn't chlorine was chicken that's what I that's what I'm saying because there will be more checks if we start importing stuff into Britain that is not allowed into the European Union foodstuff that we export to the European Union will have to be checked more thorough That's all I'm saying now whether they do it over here or there it's time it's money and that's that's an issue I have Peter is very happy. 2 week Laurie was taken and he makes a good point you know when we go on hold due to America we all ate Taurean was chicken none of us got 2 heads I am not saying the chlorine was chicken is particularly bad for your health out if you have a bad back a salad in this country washed in chlorine Ok that's not the issue I don't mind if lettuces are treated badly when they're growing but I do care if chickens are treated badly there is a slight difference as a sentinel animal here and there is a leaf there is a difference and others to thank you still to join inmates and have a John Doe your 1st uncle. Then yes they're not going to torture jobsite sorry. If you sound so my question is the question really is going to say to you all the salad in the supermarkets have been washed in chlorine 80 chlorination Yes we've been eating OSA many years never known any of you know that's not my issue see that's all right you should know what you're saying nice but the way your point is across John and I know which one you folks a friend but you sense me not very unhappy Ramona No no no I will I just want the deal I want the deal we do with the us to pay good for Britain and what worries me because we have a trade surplus with America we sell them 41000000000 quid more than they sell us that they will want to level the playing field we may have to accept stuff from them that I would rather not accept that's my point nothing to do and nothing to do to deal with them when we do to deal with them and we've got to make a point you know make these things quite clear. If you think you think you know listen do you think they'll listen to us. Well they know how little because we don't have to do a trade deal with them or we go Kerry and dealing with them a world trade Well we can problem but the thing is if you are going to replace some of the lost trade if there is loss trade with the European Union the best place to do is it with our 2nd biggest trade which is America. Understand so you have to get a good grade e.g. Which way did you go then John I would tell you I wouldn't I wouldn't tell you but it's irrelevant because I'm not talking about I'm not talking about bricks we're leaving the European Union you know yes that's happening I'm talking about what happens off the wall it's not all in how you talk about why don't we start talking about then what's going to have many European Union in 4 years time why is no one Chancellor covering the whole of Europe making decisions on taxes and pensions Why aren't you talking about them when you learn which which page of the Internet did you get that from No I didn't actually see a use political project which is one of the reasons we voted to leave the European Union in going forward there will be one chancellor and make you know to do dishes in Europe company taxis covering pensions you could be given a pension a $400.00 euros a month within old age pension and you write that stat where workers will be out so you're saying that's going to happen in 4 years well yes that's $12025.00 Well listen hundreds at the moment not taking a year I will be forced to take the euro now that's not true at least that isn't I know that's not true that is only true now it's not true it's not true we haven't helped Sally wandering now you know you're told you're wrong and you are wrong that it's wrong John Clarke I met you all you got that is a blatant lie. Similate and you'll have I think you go to court that this been treaty at me now I know I'm not going to quote There's no treaty in 2024 they're going to make these big big push into Europe Yeah every country within the European Union has got to take the euro or write in for all of John we'll wait and see because it won't happen and then I'll have your ring me back and said you know a mob got wrong because we have an opt out on the on the euro so do you know lots of other countries do as well. But I thought away the stuff comes from you know there that you were absolutely right you'll narrow amounts of. Countries within the European Union who want to more integration and and I think a lot of us don't want that and that's why I think we voted to leave the European Union but the idea that you will have to take the euro as a current member of the European Union is fanciful new members will I think that's still the rule but the idea that we would be forced to take the euro and lot of people call it the Lisbon Treaty there's bits of the treaty that going to kick in in 2024 let me tell you that this plan treaty is in the whole of it is active as we speak so it has not but by now it's not going to happen so it's we have to be very careful that this disinflation on both sides of the argument doesn't cloud to be honest that's an argument about why we left and more interested in why we left I am interested in what sort of deal we can do without 2nd biggest trading partner after partner after the European Union the United States and I'm asking you as a British person are you happy that we will probably be more aligned to America in the future than Europe and a lot of people won't have any problem with that it's all we speak the same language roughly so it makes it easier in many many ways but we will have to boost our trade with America to replace any lost trade that we might lose with the European Union I think most people understand we will lose a bit probably because it will be a bit more difficult but we won't may not be a lot but we want the whole point to practice it the whole bonus of proxy is that we can do these wonderful trade deals around the world with places where America China India. Trade more with Australia although we only trade 10000000000 quid with them at the moment but we could increase other what else they could buy from us but they're already but there might be some things so the bonus of practice it is that we can do these wonderful trade deals around the world so we can sell people around the world more stuff. So I'm saying the thing that worries me about the American deal is that I think they hold more cards than we do I think we need them more than they need us and therefore I think we will have to accept some things that we might not wanted to like chlorine was chicken which you don't have to buy like whole money injected beef which you don't have to buy as long as you know it's in that state and get the part that you are buying it is it has homey home injected beef in it and anything we make over here that can tell you chicken or beef will be checked more thoroughly when it goes into Europe for obvious reasons and reasons are is I will want to as chlorine was chicken and hormone injected big bind in the European Union that will make one of my very sure that they're not in those products good we will continue this discussion a little under just a cultural basis I would love to hear from you if you feel that you can you feel more connected to Americans than you do Europeans French people Spanish people German people should I mean I know they're our closest neighbors but do you still feel more connected to. 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Radio Kent from Oregon folks have been targeted are you saying that you know beyond doubt that Britain will never buy that I may never have to accept the euro if we stay in the European Union Well I. Can tell you is that we have a veto on it now we could give up. I suppose if we wanted to for some reason and then we would have a veto on it anymore but at the moment we do have a veto we do not have to join the euro simple as that but we could give out that veto so I can say we've no I suppose if we wanted to join the euro then there wouldn't be a problem with it but we don't think we'll ever be forced to know but I want to caution that one could tell you that but all I can tell you is what that last chap said that by 2024 all current members of the European Union would have to accept the. Around is wrong Simon Nasht Hello Simon Oh hi Jan Hello tough couple of points that have come up in your conversation morning is the business of. The meat kissing in departing I mean how did you manage that I mean it was only recently that we had a I think Gary and horsemeat in Polly's. Came from but it was definitely hold Yes Yes no we're going to problems actually managing walk gets into our policy within the e.u. Yeah I can well imagine the e.u. Saying to. Know what's going to go into your policy you're going to export to us so why wouldn't the actions that we actually are a great risk of losing a great big market what are the what I claim I say a lot will trust you and some point they'll they'll do a test or something and they'll realise that we've been naughty all someone's been naughty somebody has and then that then with the now the think about you think about the horse meat is interesting because that was purely about labeling no one saying I mean people eat horse all over Europe I mean from this you know you're going to France French supermarket there is a shift section so there's nothing wrong with eating it if that's what you want to do but you need to know it's in there yes but the same token the argument will be there's nothing wrong with that that comes from America in Europe because if the Americans are reaching Yeah. You're going to the whole thing come in which if you actually look at a lot if you actually look at Americans. They tend to be Christian big do you think that's home and yes I do wonder if it's a hold on because I didn't think that they have any. Space to make animals big it would make us but I don't know that there's that he any connection there it's always our blog. I tend to look out for European food standards all the strictest in the world and we at the moment are aligned to those food standards we don't have battery hens anymore we don't you know there's all sorts of things we don't do anymore that they still do in other countries now when we leave the European Union we can have those items on our on our menu some people might be very happy to point them because they're probably be cheaper so I mean when people say food could be cheaper All right somebody will pay you know because. But I would be buying it now would you be able to control you going to a restaurant the restaurant want to make as much money as possible and they tend not to label where the meat comes from that's going to go on the table you're absolutely right but I would say that now you see at the moment we import quite a lot of chicken for instance from the Far East now they are supposed to it's supposed to be bread in the in a similar way that we would so that if he's got a policy or pin union laws to get into Britain in the 1st place now I don't know how to how much you can check that you know what I mean so I think when you're reaching out if you're going for a car you know local curry house well you're probably not the best welfare chick in America there's no doubt about that I don't suppose but I don't suppose it's as bad as having to be washed in chlorine chlorinated water just to kill the germs that you produce only because it's so badly treated. I would imagine it's going to be a bit of a moment when it all kicks will if we can if we can when we leave could I yeah I'm . Going to leave you yet we still want to import meat from America and I would imagine there's a lot of kind of always out there in England not just necessarily American cowboys who will try to stay on and try to make it I grant money and yeah they will they will they bounce we it's a special human nature somebody will buy that chlorine was chicken which is cheaper than older chicken they'll make it into a chicken and ham pile. As chicken coops once you once you've repackaged it's the product of the Great Britain. And whether or not the where that chicken has come from will be on the packet I've got no idea but even if it is it'll be in the small print Yes You know you know you won't it will just say chicken and ham pie might in Great Britain. It will be very interesting people will know where their chicken comes from well they raise their right well that's very true Simon thank you and Margaret made that point as she said that one of the might run chicken and ham pub with the chicken you go live quite right that's what you should be doing of course but we know we've got a lot of people you know by paws off the shelf and I roll with that. But I won't be buying chlorine was chicken no nothing to do with I'm worried about the chlorine I go swimming sometimes probably swallow Carla chlorine in a salad larger chlorine it's not the chlorine that worries me it is the chicken the worries me I want to know why that chicken had to be washed in chlorine and the reason is because it for the germs was full of junk because it's stuck in a in a horrible condition with loads of other chickens where disease is rife that's how I see it now I don't I mean I've seen pictures of those sheds that we used to have over here until they were banned. America still does it and I don't really want my my my steak thank you in haunts I'm a bigger more quickly Pastika little home and Senate so I will not be buying it but some people will because it will be cheaper and then I'm worried about British cattle farmers if their pay for is a 3rd times more expensive than the homeowner injected coming from Illinois. I'll be bit concerned about our farmers and that's so this trade deal with America is really important it's really they are our 2nd biggest trading trading partner after the European Union I'll give you the figures and so we will be hoping that we could increase our trade with America to offset anything we might lose from the European Union but apart from trade I think this is a cultural thing as well. Do you as a person feel closer closer. To a line to Americans than you do people in Europe you know the Spanish the French the Germans the Dodge or whatever do you do the American scene on a closer to you and it might be just big because of the language I don't know how 80756 double one double one is the number. Of music and then small cause I'll give you loads of those some trite figures as well how much try we do with the European Union how much trying to do with America a weather policy. Because you know outright with the European Union is a level. We are on moral by all. Our 80756 It was. A new kind 5 to 41 of the best known awards for visual arts in the world but the prize will be announced tomorrow tonight for the 1st time the award which has been staged outside of London every other year since 20 and up will be announced at dream land the. China contemp to Victoria Pomery told b.b.c. Radio Kent she's very excited about the scene and can apprise it's one of the most important conceptual prizes in the world so to have it involve Kate obviously is a huge coup for the but I think it really. J m w tone of legacy and Jim is the reason that kind of contemporary. What's it like to join Dominic King for reaction he was speaking to the 2001 Turner Prize winner lucky to find out what it's like to win it and on tomorrow a new show will be speaking to this you really get rights 080756 double one double one is the number to call Georgie Norgate come in with a few of your comments on Tex where we got children quite a lot today said Jim from Ashford is saying we can have more stringent checks than Europe and force them to me it is time for us to level the playing field for European Union goods like America with us we have the whip hand with Europe Well obviously the trouble is we already have European standards if we change those standards we will not be able to sell those goods into Europe that's the problem we can sell into America but we can't send 2 year and no money a woman says I would prefer to be friends with people in Europe than the Americans thank you but we can be friends with both it's about trade really and I and culturally I whether you feel more aligned to Europe or America I think that's really important and I'm going that some of our conversations Moggridge from Folkston said Are you saying that you know beyond doubt that Britain will never and by that I mean never have to accept the euro if we stay in the e.u. What we have a veto at the moment also if we could get that up so our colleagues are concepts at salute me for definite Margaret but at the moment there is no. Chance it will believe me anyways it does matter but even if we stayed in we wouldn't have to join the euro as I understand. That's a fair number now Judy thank you very much Dana still to Martin in Expect him on a mountain tonight and I'm very well I think what he got for me you know if you can call basic and I would I my spicy start in the sale it is a 1000000 miles wife America is going to Mexico and you got to say we're going to you do understand that that cold beef in that teen has to conform to European Union standards a compound Yes if towns yes otherwise you would hear that in so he wouldn't say you can't like a danger. No we're not but we're not the ones I said to us like Tom you know if they are found to be doing that we ban the product it's not allowed so you can't I would have but it is most of it yeah yeah absolutely you know I I think I To be honest Martin I know what you're saying but it would quite easy to tell whether there was any hormone in that beef you just check it in and check it out like I saw it and I want to take your attention right to meat very fond of a bit cool but I think you Martin So yeah you're right when we put stuff the way the European Union works and that includes us at the moment is that and anything that comes from anything whether it comes from India or China or Brazil anywhere has to conform to European Union standard human back in the day. We used to watch to ransom to be on that's life and there were there were stories about dolls all sold to kids where the head came off and it was great big spike sticking up you know that that's what we had to that's what was happening well we have rules now rules and regulations that you can't you can't make a toy for a child where the head comes off and there's a great big spike about to go into somebodies are you can do it because we have regulations and those regulations are useful they stop people being injured or poisoned or whatever so that's why we do it so that's where we are now and if we want to continue to sell stuff to the European Union whatever trade deal we do with America the stuff we sell to the European Union will have to comply with their standards we can lower standards for stuff from America which we might well do to do that trade deal on agriculture in particular but we will not be able to resell that meat or that g.m. Crop maize or whatever back into the your opinion he won't be allowed that's the situation that's what will happen but are you prepared to allow some of the standards by we think there are necessary so that we can do a better trade deal with America and culturally do you feel closer to Americans than you do to Europeans now 80756 number one double. On 96.7104.2 f.m. On da Bay on Freeview channel 719 And now on the b.b.c. Sound. This is b.b.c. Radio can't afford Corvettes get the news now with less time. 13 migrants including a child have been intercepted from 2 boats off the Kent coast today as to Mark has more in the 1st incident 8 men claiming to be raining were picked up by Border Force cutter then 4 people presenting as a rainy and one Albanian were intercepted from another vessel one of them is a child and has been transferred to the Kent social services this year more than 1460 Margarets across the channel with a further 1100 stopped in France a 12 year old boy who was killed outside a school in Essex has been named locally as Holly Watson a man who's 51 was arrested on suspicion of murder following the crash yesterday afternoon detectives have revealed he was detained in a pub car park late last night Donna Mills son was among 5 people injured in the crash she described how he was coping back to back and bruised and really they just . Really scratch and these guys are just issued average. Very lucky ones tonight President Trump has dismissed claims from the Labor Party that United States would want access to the n.h.s. As part of post Rex it trade deals speaking on a visit to London ahead of meeting of NATO members he said the us would want nothing to do with the health service even if it was offered on a silver platter south east m.e.p. Nigel Farage says he might even spoil his ballot paper at next week's general election speaking to b.b.c. Radio Kent the Kent politician Nigel Farage says he wasn't tempted to stand himself again after the defeat he suffered in South Bend it in 2015 and the Bracks it Party leader says at the moment he's struggling to know who to vote for I just don't see how to bring myself to vote Conservative given I think some of their behavior has been really pretty extraordinary if anybody's put party before country the conservatives say refusing to work with anybody else so one of the moment right at the moment I think I'm probably inspired ballot paper territory. A report estimates that at least 135000 children in Britain will be living in temporary accommodation on Christmas Day the charity Shelter says this is the highest figure for 12 years the numbers show that hearing Kents more than 2200 children are classed as homeless and living in temporary housing when they calculated the figures in March this year the government says it's providing 1200000000 pounds to help local authorities tackle all kinds of homelessness and the train operator South-Eastern has put out an appeal to find a missing cat which had been on officially adopted by staff at the gym depo tripod so cool because he's only got 3 legs was 1st notice are missing as missing on Thursday but he still hasn't been seen stuff and passengers are being urged to keep an eye out for the ginger tom with the missing hind leg and that with the weather this afternoon his cake and salad a chilly afternoon bearable amounts of cloud with some bright and some sunny spells gentle breeze and temperatures between 5 and 8 Celsius now overnight tonight the cloud will break will get some clay spells and in the clear it spells some mist and fog potentially could for minimum down to 0 for another chilly night and another chilly quiet day tomorrow. Travel from b.b.c. Radio came up a very direct to causing delays as Santa names let's start in motoring breed a 26 it's really heavy as you go to was both very because temperatures in place not say it was affecting the north and stretch of very that she struggles to meet a $26.00 the maser in itself had just lain it's heavy in both directions between a 20 and the a $26.00 again it's all down to 10 blocks in place of water main work and that's going to affect you as you go past the hospital in both directions and 35 I hate to say it it is getting busier now travelling anticlockwise between Georgia 3 1st one knee and the dark the tunnels and the a.t.o. Is a quite heavy coming into our packed a sun as heavy as you come towards backs to hafe a manager and there's more in 20 minutes mark some of the drive time with John morning b.b.c. Radio came and Yes good afternoon Are you ready to become more American than European with a trade deal with the us. Central to our success off the brags that we may have to accept more American ideas and standards than European ones Does that worry you or have you always felt closer to the Americans than the French or the Spanish or the Germans the language helps of course 080756 double one double one I mean I will most be English and I later will tell you about an anonymous tongue who was paid for a Christmas lunch and drinks for the residents of a care home in Tunbridge What a lovely thing to do and this is the lovely side of Christmas in my in my book it makes us think about those in a way we've probably done for the most of the year has the Christmas spirit already touched you have someone done something kind for you in the recent past or maybe you did something nice for someone else it's lovely doing nice things for people you know. It makes you feel good even the person doing it you feel not only our 80756 double one double when we talk about that about half an hour's time drive time with Joan morning it's cool 080756 double one double one b.b.c. Radio and $5.00 for break it off and keep calls coming on America how you feel about America and Americans do you feel closer to them the maybe our neighbors in Europe 080756 double one double one tunnel tropical city in Britain at the moment for those night that NATO summit in what food on Wednesday. Now report estimates at least 135000 children in Britain will be living in temporary accommodation on Christmas Day the charity Shelter says this is the highest figure for 12 years and their numbers show that here in Kent more than 2200 children were classed as homeless and living in temporary housing and the governor says it's providing 1200000000 pounds to help local authorities tackle all types of homelessness Deborah Garvey is policy manager and he's on the line now good afternoon Deborah good afternoon let me ask you 1st of all I mean we are talking about people who are not necessary I mean they may be classed as harmless but they do have a roof over their head or more right yes I mean this is children living in homeless accommodation because the law says that you can't leave children on the streets even though we do come across children sleeping in cars and tissues buildings and so on as long as they get legal advice parents with children can't be left on the streets but they are in very poor quality homeless accommodate only talking bed and breakfast is not what we used to call but I'm represents one thing yeah but 1st homeless hostels. You know we obviously have the story over the summer some councils are using shipping.