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Senior diplomat Lord Ricketts says a claim that number 10 needs more time to prepare its response is a red herring the i.o.c. Is the only select committee of Parliament which requires the government's agreement to publish its report so when ministers make the point that they need time to respond that misses the point that what is being asked here is publication of the report the response can take its time and that there is a clear public interest in the national security implications of Russians at the serial conduct ministers say the report will be published in due course in line with procedures for sensitive information and social media advertising Labor would push up taxes if it wins the election has been removed by Facebook the company says the Fair Tax Campaign ads broke its rules on political advertising labor is yet to publish its tax plans to men in their twenty's have been seriously injured in a shooting in West Yorkshire It happened in Liversedge last night police say they believe the suspects drove away. A former u.s. Ambassador to Ukraine has told the inquiry she felt threatened by Dol Trump Congress is looking into claims the president tried to pressure Kiev into investigating a political rival which he denies Marie Evanovich says she was told to tweet praise of Mr Trump to save her job he'd been giving his reaction to her testimony I really don't know or what if you look at the transcript the president of Ukraine was not a fan of hers is there I mean he did not exactly say. I'm sure she's a very fine woman I just don't know much about her and the authorities in Berlin have banned performers from wearing u.s. Army uniforms at Checkpoint Charlie they say actors at the iconic cold war crossing between East and West Germany exploit tourists by demanding money for photos sport now almost all of the cricket it's in winning as the Zealand in the 3020 match out amount for this watching from the 1st opening scene and our 8 with our last member I want to go up to the bridge already he's on the 8 and the score as I say is now my doctor to knowing without loss of the 1st over 3 changes in the legspinner my Parkinson's and exciting and atomic bombs are making their debuts rushing Jordan faster rested with Tom Curran also back from the scene and black ticket is in for down Mitchell said I want to see involved he's in and knowing without loss we can get rid of the sport Katie Smith and West Bromwich Albion at 2 points clear at the top of the championship off the easing pass take 62 nil away I mean Stoke stay bottom of the table in their 1st game since boss Nathan Jones was fired caretaker manager Roy de Lapp says the loss has put a spotlight on how serious problems are at the club Meanwhile press mills then say they're dropping their formal complaint against Stoke it was for an alleged illegal approach for them manager Alex Neil Everton have revealed surgery to repair his fractured ankle has gone extremely well and he's expected to make a full recovery the midfielder suffered the injury during Sunday's game with Tottenham was confirmed Spurs have appealed against subhumans red card his tackle is that unsuccessful in the appeal some will miss Premier League matches against Sheffield United West Ham and Bournemouth. Paul Hackett Watson has been sacked as had been his head coach Hibs are currently 10th in the Scottish Premiership with just 9 points and his need is Champion of Champions event it's a battle back to be sure Murphy 65 and the place in the semifinals this is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live on digital b.b.c. Sound it's. On the weather spells of rain for northern England at least in Scotland through the night turning heavy at times much of the rest getting some showers but try and clear it insulates times as well choose day we'll see showers for much of the country there is seeing the heaviest of the downpours chillier in the north and temperatures generally across the country between 8 and 11 degrees available now d.t.c. Sounds fine place football tape close state some point you've got to give a young player a chance he just completely lost for words he was barely able to string a sentence together nifty contest all Cup captain us ridiculous it's taken my head round as the season progresses we've got the latest news and analysis and simply igniting guests we are told to call it a morning piece the Spain national coach Fine still pulls a listen b.c. Sounds. On. The u.k. On one online I'm Roger Sharpe were up all night 2 contrasting views of government on Monday as a House of Commons came together a relatively rare show of unity to welcome John Bercow successor speaker. By contrast the House of Representatives Judiciary Committee remains at loggerheads with the White House which again refused to allow a witness to appear Geoffrey Eisenberg is America's top national security lawyer who was charged with clearing up after the president's now infamous call with President Selenski of you. Train in July Meanwhile the committee started releasing details of his or 2 private testimony ahead of the impeachment inquiry his 1st public hearings which could start the soonest next to. The u.s. Farmer ambassador to Ukraine Mary you have out of it stole the impeachment inquiry into President chump that she felt threatened by comments the president made to his Ukrainian counterpart Vladimir Zelinsky according to published White House transcript of the call took place in July Mr Trump described as a bastard who has bad news and said that quote she's good to go through some things about so you have out of it she was summarily recalled and May as u.s. Ambassador to Ukraine spoke to the committee in a Tobar and her testimony has just been released in a further development the lawyer for the man responsible for ensuring the transcript of the call is triggered the investigation would be placed in a secret computer vault shown Eisenberg failed to appear before the House Judiciary subcommittee saying he had been directed to defy the subpoena on White House orders I wash and correspondent Tama Calvey is with us hello. Hello Well a Ambassador you have you have out of it so I think we're entitled to still refactor a such a it's quite a quite outspoken then at least in private for this committee know her remarks of course are all over the place. That's right she spoke behind closed doors and now we have a testimony and we see what she was describing at that moment and it's quite dramatic as you as you described she said at some point that she felt threatened by the president's words she was never sure what would happen and it's never been clarified but still the fact that she felt in this moment that she was being threatened that's quite different from what the normal life of a u.s. Diplomat is and it shows how controversy on this issue has become and it also shows in part why this has been the why the entire impeachment inquiry has been speeded up in the way that I have and meanwhile President Trump has been out in public he's been talking about the strong stock market and he's storming ahead and also some of the early polls in these battleground states where this is where the election will be decided in 2020 places like Pennsylvania and Michigan President Trump is either ahead or only slightly behind his Democratic rivals So despite all the controversy and the revelations from the former u.s. Ambassador present time could still win another term harms his approval rating is showing some signs of terms should it has definitely gone down it hasn't reached the lowest point in his administration but it's dipped in recent weeks and there's no doubt that the impeachment choir has had an effect on the way people see him but the election is kind of a strange thing in the United States it's about there's about 6 different states where you know action will be determined because of the number of electoral votes in those states and in those states these are areas where President Trump won last time he still got a lot of support there the people in these areas are not as concerned about these diplomatic rouse that people have been focusing on in Washington. He's going to have to talk tonight what's he doing there. He's gone off to another rally he's surrounded by his supporters thousands of people are cheering for him and he's also campaigning for the Republican governor there's going to be an election and President Trump is there speaking on his behalf and you've seen on some of the images that are shown from the rally people are wearing these t. Shirts that say you know telling people to look at the transcripts this is the position that President Trump has said regarding his conversation with the Ukrainian leader Mr Trump has said that the conversation that he had with the Ukrainian leader was perfect and that everything with an order and he's defended his conversation saying that there's no reason people should have any doubt about what he's done as president and his supporters are certainly echoing his views of this of course of the the transcript that the White House released of this call but with some more q. In a in a with with some gobs which is now being questioned as to its total veracity but but they're saying read the transcript but by which they mean read what's already in public view that's right the supporters of President Trump say that the president was saying the things that a president needs to say and they don't have any issues with it but the transcript itself it's become also a controversy all what was in the transcript or what were these like you say these ellipse he's Are these dot dot dot there are parts that didn't appear and are never have never been put before the public so there's some questions about what the president what President Thomas referring to and his critics say that he had been abusing his power and that he was speaking to the Ukrainian president the Ukrainian leader in a way that would further president Trump's own political goals and that this was an abuse of his position and. No surprise I suppose to people who've been watching this that Mr Eisenberg failed to show up before the subcommittee on Monday because he's under obviously tight control of the White House where he works. Exactly this is been a pattern that many of the officials who have been called to testify have refused to testify and there's some questions about what the replications are going to be theoretically the members of Congress could trigger a Justice Department investigation of these individuals for not coming to testify and and theoretically these people who have not testified could be put in jail but Congress hasn't moved in that direction they are plenty busy with people who are testifying and they're getting ready for their open sessions that will happen very soon. Washington Nationals baseball team made a visit to the right. As a reward for winning the World Series that's right there was a big party on the South Lawn and the team members were there and the present was celebrating along with the team the president did say at one point that it was the biggest crowd ever on the South Lawn and if you run the numbers it wasn't quite that there was about 5000 people at the party but in that half hour I guess in 2000 people when it was people were having fun but there was a party there on the South Lawn about in 2008 when there was about 13000 so fitting that aside the people seemed to enjoy themselves the usual business with sports teams where where not everybody felt that they could come to the white some people straight away or at least one person sitting with exactly one of the star players said that he couldn't in good conscience go to the event he said that he has found the president's rhetoric to be so divisive that he just simply couldn't come to the party so he you know was taking a principled stance against the president by not showing up. And then in a past event like this the the president surprised everybody by by sharing the players with mountains of fast food to do that this time. Ok we're all wondering is he going to serve hamburger is that was definitely the the star attraction of the of the sports event party before and there was no there were no reports of hamburgers today and the focus was very much on the championship and also just the sort of festive air with the music and the present celebrating and he certainly well sports and the people who were there certainly enjoyed being with him and those who didn't want to be there they made their principled stance and stayed away and well her a for Washington celebrating his 1st World Series championship thank you very much thank you very much the United Nations have been formally informed that the United States is withdrawing from the Paris climate agreement no great surprise president made it clear he was going to do this but he had to wait it's now going to take one year to complete the withdrawal process with us is under light form a climate official in the State Department who worked on the power set up from the us and that is know a distinguished senior fellow at the World Resources Institute Hello Mr Light Lou how Lou Well you must be very disappointed today well yes I am but I didn't negotiate the purse agreement just for the United States are negotiating for the world so I'm very happy that the world still is on target to meet its pledges and. What impact does it make that the United States has has pulled or is it will formally withdraw from the process Well it's certainly not good. And the United States pulling out because the United States is quite a big emitter of greenhouse gases it's not good that the United States is pulling out. But at the same time we've got lots of states and cities and others who are pulling forward to try to achieve some kind of the targets under the person agreement there was a recently put forward by the states and they Environmental Protection Agency under Mr Trump recently moved to to loosen restrictions on coal fired power plants putting broke bad stuff light heavy metals. Into the water from a cooling system. As is it becoming a case of the federal government versus the rest it is actually the federal government is trying to reduce all of its commitments to try to do something. To reduce its emissions and. The what we're seeing now is states and cities are trying to step up to try to reserve missions. How does for example California I mean those are the kind of open warfare now between Governor Newsome of California now and the president who is California actually performing and is it going to be frustrated in some way by the stance that the White House and they had ministration have been taking sure so California and other states are trying to move forward and that in the trip administrations trying to block them I don't actually understand why these why the why why why the u.s. Is trying to do this actually if you don't understand it I'm not going to attempt to understand it either but. If. And I suppose this is a bit of a bit of a stretch the moment but if the government changed times in 2021. How much what would be involved in getting the United States back to where it is at the moment under Thames of the Paris agreement so on one hand it's very easy so getting back in the persecution is just takes a call from the new president in let's say January 2021 saying they want to get back in but they also have to put forward a new target for 2030 under the agreement and that would be the harder her report and there have been reports that it was a report earlier this year wasn't there about emissions in the United States generally how is the United States doing on emissions. So our emissions have been going down. But not enough and I think every country needs to cook who are some kind of new target and that the person Grima to achieve the overall temperature targets that are integrated in the agreement do you have a different target in mind I mean if you were advising someone coming back into this process you know in a position of power what would you be in suggesting Yeah so if I were to do that then I would sort of say the by 2030 we should get a 40 percent reduction permissions but Lou a 2005 level by 2040 and then we should aim for net 0 emissions by 2050 which is the target of the British government set a sell so net 0 by 2050 Yeah well. That would be that would be certainly one years from now thank you very much Mr Light for talking to us Ok bye thanks a lot. Well let's take our 1st visit of the night to the beautiful Saxton Orval in Nelson New Zealand where we meet test specials had a month for Hello Adam hello wrote a very good even as you say it's beautiful it really is this is one of the most picturesque around something very few have the fortune to watch anywhere in the world you've got the snow capped mountains on one side the Richmond ranges on the other a magnificent vista from where we are actually focusing for an operation center here where the far office behind us it says is a slightly. Last minute put together sort of place not a regular venue necessary for all the New Zealand games but it's had packed out wonderful atmosphere $25.00 degrees very fortune to be here and in the rush is taking a very very important we can see them made a very good start they reach to 40 without loss but the Martin cups with brilliantly caught by Tom corner running back giving a wiki to Pat Brown score now he's a 42 for one run the 5th of a 33 men roast of their own 6 he's been joined by cycle crews on one part another week it goes another week it for him and Tom Curran having taken that great catch has now taken a week it so in and really are fighting back ups for start Roger 4242 now in the 5th over the latest months ago. Adam thank you very much back with that and very soon and let's turn to another environmental question no and this one in Canada because a major investigation of Canada has found that the amount of lead in the water supply of many Canadian cities exceed safe levels and some areas even show lead levels higher than in Flint Michigan which is the poster child for lead in the water and of course became critically endangered and the water crisis of 2015 it was a year long investigation conducted by 120 journalists from 10 media outlets and 9 universities in partnership with Canada's Institute for Investigative Journalism Patti Sontag joins us know she's the director of that institute at Concordia University. Hello hi Rob how are you. This is this enormously worrying for Canadians you would think because they must have thought well you know Flint and all that as well south of the border everything's fine here yeah it was it was a big change for all of us as we were going through the investigation all the students and reporters to check it changed the way we think about our drinking water and what kind of parts you know of lead concentration and water did you discover. Well we found very elevated levels of lead in older places in québec and in the municipal test results from all across the country. We don't really have open governance here when when a government worker checks a house and finds something they might the municipal or provincial government may tell the people in the house but they won't tell the people in the neighborhood and then the data isn't available so we found levels as high as $500.00 parts per 1000000000 and you know the safe level in Canada is 5 if you find this in the u.k. The assumption would be that it was in lead pipe old lead pipe leading to the house so we've got lots of old housing stock in the u.k. And people are told about this they they have to take it up but it's usually at their expense to what what happens in in the case of a Canadian household or. Well it's very much like the u.k. So it's left up to the oh house owners expense and you know study after study has shown that lower income people often can't dig up the pipe I mean it's 13000 dollars or something. And so this is often a contaminant that effects disadvantaged people and coming at me more and more on the question of where it's from I mean this is coming from Flint It was it was coming from a water supply which it never should have been coming from but it in in the Canadian case is it coming from all piping in the municipal water supply in other words not leading from the water me into the hose but actually the water main itself Ok so that's that's kind of a misconception So there is a problem in Canada the problem is that you know all water makes metal rust right and something metal eventually developed dissolves into the water and in Canada we don't have a steady roll regulation that tells me his apologies Ok so you must address the corrosion into the water and in the United States they do they have a very strong e.p.a. Regulation and so in consequence in Flint the very big problem was a lack of you know after they switch the water supply they didn't put the substances into the water it's called ortho phosphate to stop the pipes from shutting the metal into the water and so if you had a pipe in old lead pipe in your house you know after that switch of water then it just started flaking off lead like crazy now. In Canada it turned out that we have in some cities a similar problem. My costs are people have been putting or not putting out the tips into the water Yes So it's it's of substance or so phosphate So it's found in food it's the same kind of phosphate like in jams and jellies say so how did you start this what was the spark for this investigation. Well my colleague at The Toronto Star Rob crip had proposed that we look at drinking water you know we had the 9 universities and so we thought Ok Well we'll look at the drinking pipes part 1st and I thought it would be a very quick project maybe a month or 2 and it just it snowballed I have to say how many samples did the experimenters and the and all of the students and people from the universities end up taking all those students went door to door across the country and we we flew them to places sometimes and they ended up taking $358.00 samples and our data set that we're looking at is 260 samples over those 358 so from when you present this information as you have what's the response been from Unit municipalities are you getting a uniform response across the board. No not at all. So here in Montreal there's been a massive change where the Montreal the the mare has promised to invest hundreds of millions more into replacing the pipes and committed to open data to helping people to place their pipes you know really a series of steps that are internationally recognized as good leverage duction programs in other municipalities where nobody thinks Ok this is an old city that would have old pipes. There's been a less enthusiastic response. What's the public response been you'd think the public would be mildly panicked by something like this especially if you've got young children them. Well I've been watching quite closely and I don't think there is I haven't seen evidence of panic I have seen that people are concerned and they've been asking what is the best thing to do and the experts have been telling us that if you get a lead to removing filter for your water that's the best solution and it's far better than bottled water a bucket of water of course and that led removing filter you can just put that in in the big water system as it comes into the house oh you can do all kinds of things you can put it in you know under the sink over the sink in your pitch or however you like it. But just do it goodness did it change your behavior. Yeah I ended up buying one of them and it's really made me sink about water the same way I think about food like you would never Why for that you you were pretty sure that that it was safe and now I tend to look at water in the same way which is a very big change as a Canadian. And have you had any any response from federal government not that I know of as yet but it's day one today what well to get everything at the very beginning of the. Good do you plan to go on testing. In the coming months will be looking at smaller communities we are now partnered with University of Connecticut Montreal which is a very famous. French language journalism school and also the 1st Nations University of Canada and so our consortium grows and were reaching out to residents again. Well Patty Sontag thanks for talking to us it would seem here that you've you've opened some real doors and and created a lot of possibilities for future action on the part of government and you know as a party so thank you very much for taking the time to talk to us thanks so much thank you. That is the director of the Institute for Investigative Journalism at Cardia university it's just up to half past 1 on digital b.b.c. Census last week and this is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live and here with the b.b.c. News Stuart Clarkson M.P.'s have chosen. As the new speaker of the House of Commons he replaces John Bercow who stepped down after a decade old colleagues he'll change the house for the better and be a transparent speaker Downing Street is coming under pressure to publish a report into Russian interference in u.k. Politics before the election next month the document was completed by Parliament's Intelligence and Security Committee in March the since been redacted ready for publication but number 10 has yet to approve its release Turkey says it's captured the sister of the former Islamic state group leader Abu Bakar our Baghdadi who died during u.s. Operation last month as many as why it was detained during a raid in northern Syria attributes compared to the Irish broadcaster gave Byrne who's died aged $85.00 after a long illness he hosted a t.v. Chat show on a long running radio show for r.c.a. Islands president Michael d. Higgins has described him as a man of great charisma sport now let's take it to Nelson New Zealand to England playing in their 3020 match and a male. And he seemed just 61 of the 2 were in the 7th over the dangerous 20 gram time just crunched a couple of boundaries but England have been fighting back out of his even made an excellent start brilliant catch by Tom current running backs or the end of Martin got forgot to offer a powerful $33.00 Pat Brown the bowler he spoke to it was benign so far good effort from the and then current had one row call by Mahmoud for 6 we're still waiting for languages legspinner Parkinson of his 1st ball in international cricket is making his debut today along with the Somerset open a charm bounce and so when they said he's even with a group of prime time on 12 Seifert on 6 are 61 for 2 we've now got the rest of the sport with Katie Smith West Bromwich Albion. 2 points clear at the top of the championship. To nil goals from a Phillips and how Robson Carney make them the full steam to go top in this round of fixes Meanwhile it was grim viewing to start fans in their 1st game since boss Nathan Jones was sacked as they were leavens loss of the season caretaker manager Roy de Laps as they can underestimate the warring position they are in there's been a serious situation for Not a while now we're going to make sure the players and everybody realise how serious the situation is you know that tonight tonight highlighted impulse but why aren't taking out there that we thought was the strongest 11 and move move you know we've got to take a large portion of the blame where it wrong to not Meanwhile press north then say they're dropping their formal complaint against Stoke it was for an alleged illegal approach for them manager Alex nail pull hacking bottom has been sacked as have been head coach following their 52 loss to Celtic in the Scottish League Cup semifinal Hibs are currently 10th in the Scottish Premiership evidence they Andre Gomes is surgery to repair his fractured ankle has gone extremely well and he's expected to make full recovery from a commentary defended David Bruce broke his leg against Manchester United in 1986 he still 5 lives that you need mental strength as you go through rehab it's the short term ones it's going well albeit walking when I did and in 6 weeks off in 2 months. Let me look at joint training straight what Still it's times achievable goals which will really help his mindset as opposed to going well you'll be about pint you know if I've been extra Well Graham has suffered the horror injury following his Hakko from Tottenham song him in has been confirmed Spurs have appealed against his red card which was initially yellow before v.a.r. Graded it elsewhere Frank Lampard says he's been pleasantly surprised by May's amount this season and has been proven right by showing faith in the youngster The 20 year old he came through Chelsea's academy has been a key player already this campaign I believe in him he has to keep working to improve all the time he shunned particularly in the game against. The 3 midfielders who were outstanding because of the work rate I had to put into the game to stop lives have in control of it and he did it so you think of my son as an attack in midfield price showing you now that he's got both sides and I hope they were getting better. Chelsea Welcome back to that Champions League match against i.x. The c evening we've got commentary for you here on 5 live in Liverpool take gang on in sneak in a Robertson battle back to be Sean Murphy 65 place in the semifinals of the Champion of Champions event now from people. Well this is new. Saturday mornings have it. Every such. A massive lifestyle change for the now it's a ruined. Sunday morning. Join me and some big guest as we kick back over everything that's our magination this week. C.b.c. Radio is. This is b.b.c. Radio 5 available on the b.b.c. Sound. Rock shop right so. As to be the new speaker of the House of Commons succeeding John Barracora already deputy speaker he was elected by 325 votes to a nearest rival Chris Bryant 213 in the 4th and final round of voting. For Charlie pledged to be a neutral and transparent speaker paid tribute to his daughter Natalie who died and 2017 and he told M.P.'s of his plans for the house down by what Doc said. The I hope this house will be well there's a great respect to toast not just in New York but across the world. It's the n.b.a. We've got to make sure that. The way the respect that we expect from everyone who works in here will be sure. In order. According to tradition so Lindsey was dragged to the Speaker's chair by 2 supporters why I asked the historian Professor Sarah Richardson who teaches British electoral politics at the University of Warwick So basically it's not all rolled in theory is one that that sought after so it's this idea that they have the servant of the Parliament being dragged to the to the Speaker's chair to take up the role because they'd really rather like to be sitting on their benches and making substantial speeches. Well yeah I mean the fear is that basically they have to give up their role as a constituency m.p. Almost in the modern house of commons so the tradition is that it tends to. Alternate between Conservatives and Labor M.P.'s because there's been 2 main parties for most of the 20th century at least so as soon as they become speaker they effectively cannot represent their constituents you know if there's a road being built and they want to protest against it they've got to chair the debate they can then intervene so you can intervene designed their disadvantage their constituents doesn't have to be a byelection do they stop being a constituency I know there's still a constituency m.p. But the capacity for action is considerably diminished because they've got to be impartial and they've got to chat about so I mean obviously there are deputy speakers narrow you know there are ways that they can influence and in some ways you could say that their constituents get you know heightened published the tea invisibility but in other ways I mean a lot of constituents have been very frustrated that their m.p. Cannot act on their behalf but it's now sort of chairing the Commons when did this role begin what was its origin and history. So the 1st speaker is comes from the 14th century which is the reign of Edward the 3rd and again basically as has been the sort of theme throughout history the speaker was. The person who was supposed to sort of liaise between the Commons and the monarchy so at that stage the court was seen to be corrupt and the speaker was put in place in order to sort of represent parliament represent the people or well at that stage it was the barons and knights in the sort of the ability of the kingdom against the Crown so if it came into being in a constitutional crisis and in a way whenever the spotlight shone on the speaker it's because there's a constitutional crisis and you could sort of say that that's where we are today but if you look back into history with the English Civil War for example the speaker played a pivotal role in that period when Charles 1st tried to go into the Commons Ressam M.P.'s and speaker stood up and said you know. I represent the house and you can't come in and arrest them pays. Were speakers ever in physical danger of the monarch ever try to have the speaker led away in chains and the like. Well yeah I mean I think the obvious one is this speaker lentil his cool during the Civil War crisis in the 6th imported from Charles the 1st and some officials to arrest 5 rebel M.P.'s and he stands up and refuses to allow that at that point he gets away with it and instead it's so his his stand is significant however he remains speaker through the whole of the Civil War period and all of the crime while Streep sends the chamber. Later on when crumbles the protector of the kingdom and at that stage he tries to stop the man but eventually gives way so there is so certainly he was in physical danger and since that period no Monica's been able to set foot in the Commons which is why they have this huge ritual of flat road back banging on the door and the speaker leading the common since the Lords for the I'm in the parliament. Who goes down as a great speaker I mean obviously the book has yet to be written on John. But how do people judge what makes a great speaker. Well it's difficult because I think the speaker plays a very. Well well certainly since the 19th century the speakers played a sort of pivotal role in deciding which missions get to be discussed which missions get to be floated on their feet Farias precarious moments in the 19th century for example it was the Irish home rule. I mean perhaps the person who defined the role of the speaker is the speaker in the 18th century called Arthur on who was actually speaking for 33 years and he was the one he established this idea that the Speak needs to be impartial and the Ba'ath party prize that the speakers could be quite partisan so you get speakers intervening in debates you even get a speaker in the early 18th century Robert Wholey who's a minister as well as a speaker says this I say that you know speakers from being in the government was all the court is quite a recent invention in a way and there were several procedural innovations were brought on by Speaker Bercow. Can they then be rolled back if if the new speaker cylinder your child chooses to do so. Yes Basically the speaker as well is sort of being the chair of the commons he's also controls the state so I mean one of the interesting things that the speaker is done by the is is decided he's allowed to come and listen to debates his last report on the base it's quite recent that there's been parliamentary reporters allowed in and it was certainly controlled the say in the 18th or 19th century about whether to base could be reported so to speak or in a way is the person who is in charge of parliamentary procedures but also the parliamentary est So there is nothing to stop they don't see Hoyle deciding a different you know different precedents different different rules and different ways of proceeding than John Bercow Professor Sara Richardson Well we've heard a lot about measles this year and one of things we know about it is it can hang around on the surface and in the air for more than an hour every infected person on average passes this highly infectious disease to 12 or 18 other people is much more contagious than the flu or even a ball or so why have 58000 people in Ukraine a country 42000000 suffered from measles this year alone the fact is that in 2016 or less half of the babies and children in Ukraine who should have been him you know is to get bugs like measles polio and tetanus and whooping cough in fact received those injections crane as big problem with what's been called vaccine has a density Kate Callen from writers has been to Ukraine to investigate. Well Ukraine has a vaccine confidence problem that is a problem that is evident in many countries but in Ukraine it's been building this mistrust and doubt in vaccines has been building for a long time and as is often the case in the same situations they often start with something like a false scare I mean we know about the problems with m.m.r. The false scares about m.m.r. Vaccine in in Britain and in Ukraine it was a case of a teenage boy in of the 2008 time when he he died after getting at a vaccine but then they found that there was no link between the 2 incidents but by then the mistrust and the doubt and that the damage has been done Ukraine also has a history of mistrust of all Thora to say they also had supply problems with vaccines in the post Soviet era the health system is weak and all of this leads to sort of growing insecurity and doubt and and that in turn leads to fewer fewer people having their children vaccinated and more importantly actually delaying right so how does that compare to Britain for example you know in terms of infant vaccinations. The infant madness nations are not too bad in Ukraine currently the the problem is this cohort of people who haven't been vaccinated over the years say back in 2016 only Harf of the babies who should have had that child have x. Childhood vaccines have them at that time and those children are now obviously growing up and so what you're saying is you've got a large cohort of younger children older children teenagers even young adults who haven't had large numbers of them haven't had the vaccines that they need to protect them from these diseases throughout their lives and that means that when a disease like measles is terribly contagious it finds these pockets of vaccinated people and it can spread very quickly and is that is that the thing as a as the international community viewing Ukraine as as a potential source of infection Well Ukraine has 58000 cases of measles at the moment so Vost out where they've had 41 deaths 25 of them in kids and we've also seen with viruses like measles that they there were only a plane ride away and there are pockets of unvaccinated people in communities across the world included in trading in the United States and Britain Germany Italy Netherlands all over the place there are these pockets they may be small but there will be people who aren't vaccinated and viruses like measles and indeed polio which is also a risk a very good finding those weak spots in immunity and spreading so we have seen a crossover already from the Ukraine via Jewish communities with the measles virus being spread into Israel and even into into the New York City and New York State outbreaks that we saw really so so Ukraine is connected as it to the u.s. As outbreaks in Brooklyn and places like that that's right yes. Is there is a role here that social media can play well social media of course has a wall in the misinformation as well as the potential solution I mean Lumas and misinformation about vaccines can be spread very quickly on social media in what sour grapes and Facebook pages but of course the health authorities in Ukraine along with N.G.O.s and international organizations like Unicef and rotary are trying their best to counter the misinformation and part of their campaign will be using social media platforms to try and inform parents and adults who haven't been vaccinated of the risks of these diseases and to give them accurate and reliable information. We spoke for it was all happening at the Saxon oval. Having no yeah it's sort of all still happening to be honest with you it's been an exciting game of cricket so far $93.00 is the New Zealand school when the. Important things back. In the 4th 23. Has taken a look at these 1st international cricket bowling team science which went for a robber swipe at 33 men row mates 7. Tom Kearns also taken a very quick catches Well this is a very experiencing inside actually they've got 6 players who made that t 20 international. On this tour so that you can pretty well reach a peg back a very strong these even seen coming to ground he's on 33 of 19 balls and he's on 4 from 7 I've got along side me the former hold the car so to form I want to be. A place Middlesex special I would have made it so far I think it's been. I think there have been overs that very well but also because of overs where New Zealand have been able to really get ahead of the game so at the moment New Zealand scoring runs but losing weight with a little bit of regularity which is probably about the scoring rate slightly but is too dangerous batsmen at the crease at the moment which if you remove them it could get a bit busy later on you had to next 2020 campaign Middlesex last year with these new players playing for you know come across me missing no surprise he's done well know these guys who've been picked on this tour to make their debuts in these games have been picked for a reason the outstanding performance in the t 20 blast this summer in the United Kingdom and the guys deserve the opportunity and I think all of them of come in at some stage of made an impact so far which I think is a very healthy position. English game to be frank you got Steve fair I don't want to tempt people away from your excellent program but you can hear Steve Fein and Jeremy Kearney and Jonathan Mann over on 5 Live schools extra now that they will do updates throughout the night here I'm up all night with the New Zealand score 96 for 3 and the. Absolutely marvelous By the way. To. Go win this one yeah I think so to the series that absolutely would do and we're a year away from England playing in a t 20 World Cup over in Australia this is a quite important period for this England side do we know what the 50 over World Cup did for the game in England amazing final against the seams of course this sort of thing. To get that amazing and they've got another chance to win a piece of silverware in just a year's time that was certainly one of those favorites and I think they still have got a lot of experience not to hear the likes of John for Archer and Joe roots and Jason boy etc on such a chance for those players on the fringe. Parkinson takes a look at his 1st over he's showing and trying to make an impact set to get a place on the plane to go over to Australia when it comes to. That you want to win this series 5 games of course it's 11 this the 3rd game but in the world light sets and never heads here in this beautiful. The record books by the way to get a wicket. And. We've got a few Actually it's quite unusual to see he took a wicket in his 1st over in the woman playing for England I was over in Lincoln last week so he's obviously someone is going knack for doing that sort of thing and if I lose Gregory who isn't bowling here at the moment the summer special round he took a look at these very 1st ball bowling it's last week in the last match so he's sort of a thing that's carrying on but he said he said he rather unusual a rather nice knack to have tried to make an impact in the series. Thanks very much Adam. No problem. But join Lynn Sweet now at the Chicago Sun Times Hello Lynn. How well hello and we begin with it's good to hear you too and we evened up the score here we took a little a little grief just a small amount of grief last week for following the World Series of baseball So we're balancing things not we're bouncing things so tell us about the Chicago policeman who was attacked by wealth of course that the superintendent of police in Chicago who took a real year fall from President bump when he was 1st thing. Right so ready to go President Trump this in Chicago making his 1st visit us president and Chicago leaders are all at odds with his policies and he has been criticizing the last 8. Flamming Chicago problems with crime. 2016 so the police superintendent Eddie Johnson put out a statement a sentence Trump said he wasn't going he was coming to speak to a police chief's conference in Chicago Eddie Johnson says well I'll come to the convention but a boycott the speech so I was in Chicago covering Trump's speech which in a few minutes just barely as he got started he started slamming superintendent Jobson like he shouldn't be doing this you shouldn't want he's bad for a city and then just a few days ago he sent a tweet saying that he should be fired at least now against this backdrop if it was just trump this cops the police superintendents only problem he probably wouldn't even talk about retirement after 31 years on the force but he's also very unpopular with the police you again there are. Totally at odds they came up on a no confidence because Chicago has gone through a lot of problems with police you know to a lot of great thanks but there is a federal consent decree that's got going under President Obama which of course Trump deplored and then this might be the final thing in talking about his retirement because it sounds like right Trump is bullied this police superintendent out of work here he also has some health issues and just was found to fall asleep in front of his house his car recently and I don't know if it's all been sorted out if it was just a medical problem that he had to drink your tea just eat it you know sometimes you fall asleep in your car so it's just a lot of things happening but it's a. Very compelling story because it's we have a new mayor in town and for her to look for a new police chief soon it's going to be a big deal if indeed he does decide to retire it seems to me the handwriting is on the wall that one way or the other is on its way out and now this creates another complexity for the new pair who just finished this future strike is to go find a police superintendent who's going to make everybody happy and you know what everybody's not going to be happy oh what a rotten job oh dear and now there's some very staid so if you have a conviction for cannabis you've got a better chance of landing a job in the legalize pot and the say this is this now this is something I thought I listeners would appreciate since legalize same pot recreational pot is becoming so big in the United States and it's coming to Illinois now in a lot of places in the United States at least if you have a conviction for possession or selling of marijuana it could back out of contention for getting the job people here still get drug tested they have police records because of this but now in this one industry yes it's really been born in Illinois and has the potential of giving people jobs and when you take who might be interested in working at the pot industry it's people who like pot. About it and appreciate it and probably use it so these people are people who are seen to have a value and you know possession of marijuana is a crime it isn't one of the 10 Commandments that you broke it's just whatever your local authorities have said is it is illegal. Liquor was once illegal in the United States during prohibition so this isn't seen as a Borel crime that would make you unfit to serve especially cannabis shop so it doesn't enter strange as this industry is being born and spawns in Illinois. And how long is it before Illinois starts is so in part shop so the other there are no it's not there it's medical marijuana now in Illinois but we don't have the street level retail out there or fits there I've seen it you know the medical marijuana dispensary surround but you have to look up the address in Los Angeles some other American cities if we walked around Los Angeles you would see stores that look like Apple stores you know a big shiny Yeah there's one chain in particular there is very great interior since link and you could go in and buy. A variety of cannabis related products but it's right there at street level I think the way the law is run in Illinois is that it will never be that flamboyant quite that retail oriented. Well I'd say let's go to politics in Cook County always an interesting thing because that was the home of the dailies Mayor Daley and while his father Mayor Daley before him anyway some Chicago polls that is to say political leaders still can't seem to stick to the straight not know where are the years the wrinkle we're in the myths of. Multiple Mendis Apoel corruption and state legislative scandals going on right now that are unfolding and so 2 figures who have gotten in trouble indicted what is Alderman the other sustain rep they also wear the head out of a local political boss for the local organizations that again Chicago is organized where you have elected officials who represent you know government and then the political parties have their own officials and often you know elected official also plays a role in the party well up until just a few days ago the political party the Democrats tolerated as having people under indictment still doing political duty says officials so the party the story we have now is that 5 pretty thumb but he's taking a move and taking these guys out there political jobs it's about time well well you can say that I'm sure the sad times says that too is a pathway appropriate sentimental and sank you very much indeed thank you but I. Are you claiming that anyone else was c.b.c. Radio. So it's 2 o'clock and here with the b.b.c. News is much Transfield my short Good morning the main news on 5 Live for Coleman is has a new speaker in sport Parkinson takes a week in his 1st day at the Black Caps are building a challenging total. Is b.b.c. . Jeremy Cobain's told the new common speaker he'll need in the back of his head M.P.'s have chosen Sarah Lindsay Hoyle who's been a deputy since 2010 to replace John Bercow it will now be his job to keep order during debates having Katsav political correspondent It's widely expected that he is going to be much more muted in his approach that while he will continue to do things that people liked about what John Boehner did things that championing backbenchers that he's likely to be shall we say less flamboyant twilight had less of the sort of you know chuntering from a sedentary position or telling people to take something medicaments that's unlikely to be so Lindsay Hoyle style Boris Johnson's challenge Jeremy Corbyn to come clean to voters about his Bracks it plan in a letter to the Labor leader the prime minister accuses him of failing to explain his proposal Labor says its policy is clear and straightforward and that it will allow people a final say the Liberal Democrats will launch their election campaign later this morning the party is promising to put 50000000000 pounds into public services if it comes to power and what it calls a remain bonus it says the economy would grow faster if we stay in the e.u. . 4 White House officials have failed to appear before an inquiry into Donald Trump a congressional committee says the testimonies would have been important in establishing whether the president put pressure on Ukraine to investigate a political rival he denies the claims are North America correspondent is Peter boats we have political appointees inside the White House refusing to accept any of invitation to testify potentially in the future they could be forced to testify if they receive a legal demand that they should do so but the Democrats are already saying that once again this is an attempt to obstruct their investigation the average income of households using food banks is just 50 pounds a week that's according to new research from the Trussell Trust Gary Lemon is from the charity for example single moms are massively overrepresented people with illnesses people disability these are all people who we should expect to be anchored from poverty by our benefits system not being caught the government says it spends $95000000000.00 pounds a year on welfare payments and is always looking to improve the system and a red panda that escaped from a wildlife park on the Isle of Man has been recaptured after being spotted up a tree in a garden Kush went missing from Curtis.

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