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I'm going. To. Play. Some. Music. One. Day when using the. Example of some of. The problems. Just going to a place to. Be used. To. Go to. The games. In the room. Was was. Was. For seven o'clock so how about a nice weekend I had. To France on Friday after the show and I went to a town. Which is about two and a half hours west to think about that then at west of the reason that I went to see this at Speakers this town has the highest concentration of. Neolithic stars. In Europe it's a real magic so. Over the weekend. It sounds drier than I actually was and yeah so I was on the boat on Friday night and it was actually rude to roll over the weekend which is that huge big festival which takes place about twenty minutes and about fourteen kilometers away from Somalis that there were a lot of jetty revelers heading over in the Dr Martens and sequins and drinking Baron talking about the bands they were going to see and people were saying what are you up to this weekend Kerry and I said I'm going to go next and look at some stones in contact and I was feeling a bit sorry for me. But then when I got on the boat this morning to come back to jazz at seven o'clock this morning and some of those revelers were getting on the boat after being at rhetorical weekend I was really glad I was in one of them that looks like hard work but fair play to all those people who kind of didn't sleep and cycled back and got on the boat and got themselves a time anyway coming up shortly on the program at the real pole dog Robin Alice is coming to chatting and he wants to teach you how to cook this is actually related to diabetes he was diagnosed with diabetes quite late in life moved out to the south of France and set up a cookery school and started writing cookery books about creating delicious foods at that fit in to a diabetic diet so FS we're going to find out about the event itself with the organizer Marianne young and tomorrow Alice will be joining us live on the show so if you are a pole Duck fan Do stay tuned now also something like for Monday and I don't need to get down about this. But we thought we'd talk about it between two and three o'clock I'm going to be talking about the personalization of funerals and the reason that I'm doing this apparently there's a real rise in the presentation of funerals so we're going to be talking about. I don't have any stories that you might have that you you know a person who's had their own soap special kind of send off or maybe you have your own quickie ideas as to how you would like your final stand of today maybe you don't know what's possible and we have a man who can tell you what's impossible. For your a final send off pull back trick funeral director from here and as you will be joining us live in the studio I've also already had a bunch of absolute crackers of ideas as to way the way people would like to say goodbye so we share some of them shortly on the program but I do feel free to get involved and we'll try to keep it light but seven to zero to five five that's seven to eight to five five perhaps even to a quirky ceremony lately that really stood out or maybe you have some ideas for yourself or maybe have some questions as to how it could be a seven two I would say five five if you'd rather just drop me an email you can do that to radio jazzy at B.B.C. Doc dot U.K. Now also just before I came on air and I've been asked to say hello to Ireland because my mum's in Ireland and she's driving through the country with my Auntie Janie my auntie dot and Georgie and they're all in the car listening to B.B.C. Radio jazzy So this is my shout out to you maybe will. Dedicate Diana Ross to you as well Ain't No Mountain High Enough it's B.B.C. Radio jazzy it's me carry caper it's your afternoon share. My. Way you. Just call me and. I'll be there for her. And that you can. Live. Live. Live. and. Whole series of a little now in B.B.C. I Player. High drama twenty three minutes possible on is the time so as we were saying Robin Alice best known for his role as Ross pulled up in the original B.B.C. Series will be in Jazz A on the eleventh and twelfth of October Well it'll be on stage of them and her talents in the highly A for tonight's showing how to bypass some tasty recipes from the latest of his three best selling cookbooks which is specifically aimed at those who have diabetes those who want to prevent diabetes or indeed those who just want to eat healthily easy to prepare and tasty food as well so tell us a little bit more I'm now joined in the studio by organizer of the event and diabetes jazzy fund raising chairman Mary Young head Lou How are you today I'm good thank you lovely to see a so first of all tell tell me a little bit about diabetes jazzy and the what that it does diabetes Josee is a charity which supports diabetics all people with diabetes I should say in the island. We raise money to help with all sorts of things I mean we are currently spending about seventy thousand pounds a year on extra posts at eyes bts center which means that there you get see more quickly you get a better service up there. It's more money than health and social services on their own can manage we also do a lot of work supporting both Type one and Type two diabetics but particularly type young type ones because when you are diagnosed with diabetes when your young or in your early teens. It's a little bit of a frightening place maybe to be it's an unknown it affects the whole family and we how defendants which helped get these youngsters together make them realize that you know it isn't a frightening place and you know there's lots of other people in the same boat Johnny Lampy is there. Helps with that work he's he's. A sort of ambassador Ambassador that's the word I was trying to start around for. For diabetes so yeah huge huge huge great range of work that we do because I guess for a young person they feel sort of separated for a little while initially there are certain things that they can do certain that things that they can't answer and things that will separate them for them from their friends of energy wise I think well I don't think there's anything you can't do is a diabetic but it's learning I think how to how to manage your diabetes and certainly Johnny is an absolute example of it doesn't hold you back in any way I mean he's it's been starting any centers he won with his partner don't start stance you know if you can do something like that with diabetes you can do anything with diabetes who. I think he is wonderful example that diabetes properly managed doesn't have to affect you your life but of course young people want to be will be the same and diabetes I think sometimes makes them feel a bit different which is why having events getting them together can can really help do we know how many people are going to say suffer from or live with diabetes in the island I don't have that figure for TOP OF MY HEAD know or should I should have thought that I came on here should much and I move on swiftly OK let's talk about Paul dark coming to Jersey we are actually going to speak with their Robin tomorrow live on the program but ahead of that he's got quite an interesting story because he was diagnosed late in life wasn't yes like so many times like myself type two diabetes is also known as late onset diabetes and I think he was he was a foodie even then he loves cooking and I think as he said it was a bit of a was a bit of a shock but when he got used to the idea he was determined to control. So a managed his diabetes through healthy eating and the result of that is his three cookbooks that he's published I think the first one was delicious dishes for diabetics if you can say that on the losses of wine and he's not long published his third one which is Mediterranean Cookery for diabetics but it's not recipes in them and not just for people with diabetes. If you want to prevent getting diabetes as you get older then the recipes are actually pretty or just healthy but lovely food I'll come back to Robin in just a minute but you mentioned that you were diagnosed with type two diabetes yes I know years ago tell me a bit about that about being diagnosed and what was going on with you at the time well I suppose it wasn't that long after my husband had died. And then I was told that. I was pre-diabetic and then I was told I was diabetic. And well I mean that's it rarely. Eat. It in some ways it if it does affect your life you have to you know have to kind of think about it. You have to kind of think about the type of food to eat. Mine has now progressed to the stage where as well as taking tablets I'm now on insulin injections. But if you're really careful with your diet you can avoid that . I know that some of the latest thinking is you know you can actually not get rid of your diabetes but reverse your diabetes by your diet and losing weight. So that discovering more and more about diabetes all the time. So the event itself Robin is here in October the eleventh and twelve so he's going to be on stage at night I learn with also B.B.C. Journalist Robert Oh no that I all his help me out before when we were together on the junk audience with John Cleese for Daryl Yes. Yes the format of the show is that. Robin will be doing cooking some dishes from his his book showing how to cook those and then in between Rob it's going to talk to him about his life when he was polled dark cross-product back in the one nine hundred seventy S. And also because he's appearing as the reverend also in the current series we have photographs that will go up on screens around the theater we'll have clips of him with the current aging TURNER So lots to talk about and he's doing different recipes each night so if you're feeling really committed you can come by Smyth said it will be a different show. The that is the show which is about an hour and a half long and then after the show there's a three course meal in the Belvedere restaurant at the merchant and he and chefs are going to prepare dishes from Robin's book having to for the audience to to eat at that as a three course meal. So they'll be able to pick dishes that they seem prepared by dropping that evening he's not going to cook the whole thing. What a great idea what your capacity for the two nights. We can take up to. It's the person who's not huge We can take up to two hundred thirty six each night so we're just over just under five hundred over the two nights OK Well as I said we're going to be talking with Robin to Mars or anything you'd like me to ask him ahead of his career is him arriving. I think what he's perhaps what he's because he hasn't been to Jersey before setting inception the yeah it's always a good marriage of hands but what he's most looking forward to in fact IS COMING TO jersey I hope that on the list Allison thank you so much for joining us today if somebody is listening and they'd like to come along they do why should they care if they go onto our website which is. W W W dot diabetes Jersey dot com and there's a link there through to a booking form this. Tells you all about the show on there and then link through to a booking form or they can phone. Chairman or in. Oter will seven nine seven eight two six five zero eight for tickets or e-mail him on W O'Brian with an E D J At G. Mail dot com lovely or I will marry it's lovely to see Thank you I said I look coming and thank you listening to B.B.C. Radio Jersey that was there Mary Young who is the diabetes Jersey fundraising chairman again that phone number if you like to find out more out of a seven hundred seven eight two six five eight coming out shortly on the program how less than me is achieved a very special award placing them in the top five percent of fourteen thousand organizations assessed and registered with investors in people across the world. Where. We. Are saying. Is there. When you. He's going to be taking the stage I don't know why the name may be but it did say that at the exhibition of the history of the state's chamber that continues on all It is named B.B.C. Radio Jesse That was Amy Winehouse and rehab the time now it's just gone twenty to two so that's why I was saying this is me the charity they have achieved as silver investors and people will becoming the first organization in the Channel Islands to do so under new robust rules by successfully reaching so over a broad standard let's amazin the top five percent to fourteen thousand organizations assessed and registered with investors in people across the world and it's not the first time that they've achieved such status what it does a little bit more I'm now joined in the studio by bin Laden is the managing director Cliff May and it was said Lauren Khouri Hi guys how are you today all right all good all good Yeah so first of all and we mentioned that about being registered with investors have people say Who are they and what are they about they are a national body in the U.K. . Come about working with all the lies ations to ensure that they're doing the best by the stuff so they especially against a framework and at the end of us until that you know where you've come in regards to the grading from standard all the way to patent and just remind us sort of the top line of all of the work that lies any day was me as an organization that came together forty two years ago to support people learn to spell in associate conditions to live an equal and respectful life in Jersey. We've been doing up until enjoying the work but the one thing we have recognised that society is moved on not only in the way we deliver care but we actually support staff as well so we knew when we started this journey they must must be about five years ago that we want to look at how we support staff because we can't necessarily give them the best salary on the island. But we can give them the best working conditions on the support they require It's a very unique environment to work in is it difficult to find the sorts of people that you want to work alongside you know the market in Jersey is growing and that means that the pool of people we owe to recruit. String could really so we have to offer people who are looking for employment and this type of field something slightly different something that they feel benefits them as an individual not only in salary but in their development and who they are as a passion and do you find that there are a lot of young people coming straight into your sector or is it a case that people want a bit of a shift in career or a bit of a change once they've got some life experience behind them we've seen a bit of a shift really know us couple years where we are for the younger people come to walk in care and that's probably don't tell of the stuff that we didn't promote an organization and the things we do and obviously B. We understand the Cs of the X. Y. And Z. Generation we can treat people today like the way we supported them twenty thirty years ago so that brings another challenge to organizations such as me so when you're looking for. When you're looking to recruit or develop your team are you sort of seeking out the most qualified or is it is there more to it than that you can always train people but you can always get somebody that empathy or ethics or philosophy of working with people with learning disabilities so if they've got then we can do the rest and fill the gaps and I think it's important to mention that if you feel like you aren't in a camera we don't look for any experience or anything we have a bespoke six week training package so you can call been pretty much from school from it on the job and we will give you everything you need the tools you need to be able to progress and you Carol what sorts of things would that initial six weeks involve then what sorts of skills would you pick up an actual on time so I went through this about three years ago and the training is it's incredible it's so diverse. And you learned a lot in those six weeks from General passbook head to food hygiene infection control measures as a lot that goes into it and while still not six weeks training you also go in house so you can put what you've learned in into practice and it's a really good way to learn was it a surprising period of time when you sort of learned things that you hadn't even thought about Absolutely I think with regards to a residence you can't predict what might happen on shift and it's a really good platform to be able to experience things that may have happened and then discuss it the next day with your peers and with the training instructor So just remind us a little bit of the the demographic of the people that you're working with then and well. We support people across the whole island but we work with mild moderate and severe complex learned disability needs so we can be support some to needs care for every living task all the way down to just spend a couple hours a day with some day to work on their finances or we can for employment and this sort of care is only going to work if your employees feel supported in the right way right to us and that's the whole reason why we got involved invest in people over three years ago that we knew that we had to keep on challenging yourself in certain thresholds not only to say complacently but been doing this for four years we must get it actually as I said you know society's moved people expectations have changed and we need to change with the trend as you mentioned there in the introduction you are now in the top five percent of those fourteen thousand organizations right across the world that must feel great it was amazing to be fair we were surprised with the result we knew we were doing a good job but we didn't realise we're doing such a good job and. Vilified and actually assessed by an independent body say listen guys you do a brilliant job and you've shifted so much in the last three years you should be proud of yourselves as a great player part of the bark and that's recognition for everybody's hard work over those periods of time why do you both fail that you received this award then. Personally I think we've received an award because we we don't shy away from change and we have worked really hard to continue to meet the demands that the people we support placed in those equally we respect the fact that if you don't change it's going to be stuck in the stone and doesn't help anyone but I think we the recognition highlights that we've taken on board the advice was given three years ago we've worked hard with the staff team we've consulted with them and all the way through we've involve them in that process and that's the biggest part of the situation and it makes us feel happy that stuff feel that we've got a force that can use change is quite an interesting subject I guess for you guys because the pool of people they helping is not getting any smaller No their needs any less complex as they get older totally and the people we support get older they need to get more complex and then on top of a residence of five times more likely to contract dementia type conditions they're more likely to contract cancers and suchlike so we know that as they get older they get old quick so we work with the stuff to understand the complex of one disability but then we have to consider we need Nazis in the future and that's what we're working on the show on next to new complex and as you know we were speaking with Lauren last week about the auction that that sort of under way and people are busy donating at beautiful ought to go towards this target the you have a half million pounds tell us about the unit that you're looking to build and what will be and how it will make a difference we want unit to be the spoke and meet the needs of the individuals that become accustomed to homely environment but equally they will have enough needs so we want the unit to be very specialised we want and fight it would be great to be a sort of action so people come from the U.K. Look at the best way to do it but in the same instance we want people to cordon different door and go wow this feels like my home not a home so the money reason is to ensure that when somebody moves into that complex when they need to move or receive medical care. Treatment they don't have to move out of a place such a home and they'll be killed from that place apart from this current challenge that you have going on one of the other key challenges that lesson we face is going forward. Again is we've got new care legislation coming out very shortly hopefully by the end of the Shia we've got the new charter commission this coming along by next year so there's going to be more regulation and legislation and right we saw but the additional challenges because you have to do more with less. And we find you get to the point where unless you start well trained well supported and developed that would be an almost impossible task hence the about correct oaken graduations on the road as you hear we won't miss this opportunity just to quickly mention the the also auction again and if anybody has a piece of art that they might want to put in the pool for the auction what should they do if you'd like to get in contact with me he can ring eight five day sixty three or you can e-mail Lauren dot Carre at let's do me the old Jay and I just lights take this opportunity to thank the people that heard us all of a day last week and have been in touch and they mated please the marriage he's in date and you do have a couple of skydives happening this week don't you if you are saying we love our clients right in the mouth place so we're going to speak to you guys on Wednesday but just quickly tell us what's happening yet so we have got a resident and one of our systems jumping out of a plane in order to become less of me legends So anybody on the island is eligible to become a less than a legend all that it requires is that you fundraise a thousand pound in the yeah and you will become one of all of. Us and thank you both so much for coming in look forward to hearing more about that the skydive that financial friendly and in our car from let me thank you very much thank you thank you listening to B.B.C. Radio jazzy time now is tends to. Oh boy drama lads change we. Know it stays in situations when. You know it's. Been My. B.B.C. Radio jazzy that stated grey and to Babylon city you stay up late one person is going to be staying up late for the next three evenings is B.B.C. Music interesting introducing in jazz he's Khana bugga as Ireland's music scene get ready is represented on the national stage each week you Stephens invites the introducing teams to submit that tracks to his team for airplay on B.B.C. Radio one and this week it's jazzy stand so you can hear from all Conor musicians. Muzzy Foley Bradley Welsh just Hannan and Rory Mendez over the next three evenings around HOF past midnight on B.B.C. Radio one and of course there's always that I play Russian as well. Exciting. It's two o'clock I'm Jason. Team members of the state's Public Accounts Committee have resigned because they no longer have confidence in its Chairman Dempsey and you know US Vice Chairman of the constable and Hadassah McRae cruft and T.G.T. Martin said they have quit their roles after state's committee found it had breached the code of conduct for State's members' Dempsey Martin felt she had no alternative but to date if. Trust me it's confidence or supposed but it's been a brilliant chair what with him brilliant I've never really worked with us before but this is why we're not doing any work now the issue becomes about a person although the chairman of the committee. And so it's got to go and I would have a really large team to stand down and then we could also it again if it wanted to get the vote of confidence and that would a bit of a confidence if he went to the chair again he hasn't decided to do that so. Because most and Hellyeah wants the states God nursery at Mt elaborate become part of a parish Country Park Simon Craig Crawford is asking the assembly to postpone plans to rent out where it farm so an assessment of it suitability can be done transfers and Hella Country Park was first proposed in two thousand and eleven aiming to give those living in the most built up part of the island better access to the countryside he says it would like to see ministers acting more quickly over the plans Well I think it's a shame that it's taken a proposition to the states to get this project moving I have been asking questions in the states in the six years or so since I put the idea of food no progress has been made planning ministers have come and gone and so other things more important . And it was really only when the site came up and people are scratching their heads thinking Oneness can we do it that I pointed out from this is right slap bang in the middle of the area that identified back in the autumn plan to write. Private e-mails between jazzy Ministers have a match revealing division over where the new hospital should go after a Freedom of Information request an e-mail from Santa as if to the health minister from September two thousand and fifteen has been published and it sounds as if rights to censor under green copying in the Council of Ministers after the head to head he was seriously considering the park as an option for the new hospital an option which initially he dismissed as fanciful talk he says public parks a guaranteed constant in every change in Weld and they are a no go adding they are afforded the highest level of the highest level of protection above all else and to remove them would require huge efforts a public inquiry into rebuilding hospital on the current site and knocking down hotels and shops in Kensington Place to expand it is still to go ahead. A film on replacements says privacy needs to be balanced with fighting crime when using a camera on a car dashboard awful police forces in Wales to start using dash cam footage recorded by motorists to investigate driving offenses following a successful pilot scheme by North Wales Police Malcolm Nami a film sense and if isn't how it used a dash cam recording to prosecute a motorcyclist from dangerous driving a few years ago I understand that there is this prissy if you were why should why should I be filmed when I'm just walking around or driving around in my car wash will be soon by the people will the C.C.T.V. Wherever you go in and it's there to protect. Officials in the Spanish region of Catalonia say they believe the death of man in a car hijacking was the work of the attacker who driven a car a van into crowds in Barcelona last week killing thirteen people Police believe the assailant drive into people on a boulevard in the city before he escaped on foot he then killed a motorist and made off in his car officials say he's dangerous and could be armed speaking at a news conference in Barcelona Catalonia regional interior minister came forward finally confound the identity of the man driving the van in the last US attack. If you go there like you're in a lot of analysts we have identified the perpetrator of the incident average number of the investigation carried out by cats and I'm police and the various lines of inquiry can confirm that the perpetrator of the attack is you know. Who is twenty two years old he was a perpetrator. A local government official in Belgium has confirmed that the suspected ringleader behind the bus liner attack and a man spent up to five months preaching at a mosque near Brussels last year Spanish belief Spanish police believe the A man. May have blown himself up accidentally shortly before the terror attacks in Catalonia rescues a searching for ten cream missing from a U.S. Warship which collided with an oil tanker off the coast of Singapore five other sailors were injured when the U.S.S. John S. McCann was holed below the waterline. In sport now the former England manager Steve McClaren is back in football he's joined McAbee Tel Aviv as a coaching consultant McClaren under if he was a player of Manchester United during his time as assistant to said Alex Ferguson McClaren hasn't managed since March when he was sacked by Dobby is five minutes past take. Gradually becoming fed with some sunny intervals developing about. Overnight at a temperature of twenty three degrees Celsius. Sixteen with. The visibility. With the Wind West. Two to three becoming verbal this afternoon then easterly proceed increasing three to Mordor. The. Heights today is it. With. Tonight at eleven point one. Look ahead to tomorrow's with a few. Patches. Of twenty nine degrees. Cut cut. Cut cut cut cut. Cut cut. Cut. Cut. Cut. Cut. Cut. Cut. B.B.C. Radio jazzy Whitney Houston and I wanted to with somebody hello if you just joined us may carry with you. Three until four o'clock this afternoon it's eleven minutes past so coming up shortly we're talking about the personalization of funerals we're going to be joined in the studio by a funeral director pullback Trix if you could have questions for him and to feel free to give us a code seven two or two five five or maybe you've got a story or an experience of an unusual personalised funeral one of the reasons that we're talking about this is Professor Margaret Holloway of Hollywood Hall University has been needing a team of her searches for most of backgrounds on the Remember Me project which looks at the changing ways in which we memorialize So it just got us to thinking of all the weird and wonderful ways that we can say goodbye or that we might be able to say goodbye in the future and what exactly is possible not trying to keep it light I mean and it's a Monday. But yeah this doesn't have to be too much of a somber. Is going to be joining us in the shoot studio shortly to talk to me on that subject before we do that let's take a look at some travel news around the island. Travel on B.B.C. Radio audience like a first of all let's have a look at the airport up in arrivals modified from Bamiyan that was jus in a way back at twenty to nine this morning is now expected and it says here at approximately twenty five to three that was delayed due to operational reasons a little bit further down the Cardiff line it's teacher arrived at twenty five past for another Friday flight that's now not expected until ten past five and the flight that was due in a twenty five past four that's delayed about twenty minutes again due to operational reasons are in turn at those flights that are correspond with just saying check in on time that's the quarter to five flights and same story with a five to five flight to Cardiff other than that everything seems to be. On the roads today. And the. Nine and six o'clock will be for. The next few days to the end of this week. Insensate lights. And Springfield. Between Pleasant Street and street that's close to one way southbound traffic for cable and it's also temperature. For improvements that finally last. Call and. If you're out there on the road and you see something that might affect another's Jannie and you can and it's safe to do. My number is seven to five five that's seven to five. In fact. There's still time to pick up your copy of the latest B.B.C. Radio jazzy book of the month we've joined forces with the jazzy library to explore a new book every month and Augusts book is calling Major told by David and bonnet laugh out loud story of friendship family and forgiveness something Thomas is very happy to be on his own far away from other people in their problems but beneath his cranky exterior lies a story and a sadness that is familiar to his old and he's about to encounter a family who will change his view of the world all you have to do is pop along to the library pick up your copy let us know what you think e-mail us out radio Jesse out B.B.C. U.K. And then cheated on Thursday the thirty first of August to find out what you've been saying the B.B.C. often in show I'm going to move on to funerals now I'm going to tell him to do this with a smile and I want to say hello to pull back because he's here in the studio had I Paul Good afternoon how you today you write all the new I'm alright thank you could say happy anniversary I think I saw her on line thank you yes. Yes seven amazing brilliant years yeah OK we'll have to choose a change for you thank you as shortly now as we are inviting yet you to give us a call in seven to eight to five five if you've got any question. About personalized funerals or maybe you have an experience maybe you went to a service that was particularly memorable and we'd love to hear from you seven two zero two five five you can drop us an e-mail as well radio Jersey at B.B.C. To do it U.K. Or at find us on Facebook as well but for we do all that personalizing funerals is increasingly popular for mourners wearing the president's favorite color to significant music being played the many different ways memorialization is changing is the subject of an international research project called Remember the me it's led by Professor Margaret Holloway of Hull University who told her Judy Merton about the significance of personalization Well it's interesting it's something that we see more and more now that people do placings in the coffin or they it on the coffin and we think it's about two things really it's about a way of infusing the whole thing with some meaning and the reason it has mating is linked to the other question which is how do I maintain some sort of connection with that person so when personal objects are put in the coffin for example it's usually saying something that identifies particularly with that person and accept her as a memory but it's also something which indicates their relationship with you that you remember and which can be seen to be a connecting thing and what have you found out about the sort of things that people use in this way during the course of your research so the main thing is around the personalization of the whole process the funeral of laying down memories which are very particular step person but also some way it seems to be a kind of modern way of giving people some immortality Ormus that they continue that their presence in some way continues so it will be objects which. A particular associated with the person it might be music it might be a particular memory the anecdotes the storytelling that people tell so memorials don't have to be a a concretes objects they can be a process or an experience or something that the family does every year at the same time one of the studies in this big research project the moment is about the things that people rice in the moral books hospices and whole families will go together perhaps on the person's birthday and they will each put an entry in and it's both an events and a memorial that's laid down and this seems to be all about trying to find some way of dealing with the death it's something that we find incredibly difficult to deal with all of us and memorials and the behaviors we can cluster around those memorials since one of the ways that help make it easier. And that people can customize they can make it particular to them does it make a difference if the person who's died was a person of phones it makes a difference insofar as the things that held meaning for them that person perhaps continue to hold meaning for the parade might be religious symbols or some aspect of their face something that express their faith but it as a process it's actually no no different from what somebody else might choose go back to a funeral City we had one woman who said that they she she was religious and her mother had been a regular church tend so she said that the very meaningful part of the funeral that was to do is the concept of the resurrection. But for somebody else it was for example. The colors that they chose for the flowers because the mother didn't like yellow and said we can't have that yellow because should be looking down and she wouldn't like that at all. Although they didn't have any you know a particular structure of belief anyway let's put it that way not a formalized religious belief somebody else put a package of cigarettes into the coffin and said we. Wanted to have a smoke and of course this is very reminiscent of what the ancient Egyptians did and we have lots of examples of people wanting to put goods around will the kind of a looking up to the past as they go on their journey listening to B.B.C. Radio jazzy That was Professor Margaret Holloway of holly University on the significance of personalizing funerals we learned that also a little Charlie godparents plan to place his favorite toy monkey in his coffin as we were saying Professor Holloway lead to team over such as Mosul is a background on the Remember Me project which looks at the changing ways we memorialize you can just search for remember me a project in they'll take you to the site with all the information all sorts of aspects including how many we remember so have you ever attended an unusual service or ceremony maybe have specific ideas of how you'd like your final Send of debate and are you wondering what exactly is possible but we're now joined in the studio by funeral director pullback tricks if you have any questions for him or tales to tell to give us a CO seven two zero two five five seven two zero two five five or drop us an e-mail Radio Jackie B.B.C. Dog dot U.K. So Paul did the audio that we just had there resonate with you anyway and yeah there's a lot of things coming out of it yes so true that a funeral is a personal thing to that person and it doesn't have to be about religion it has to be about that person but some people want religion in the service and it's about the person who's passed away and the family has left I guess sort of tradition and rituals a living things on the way that change with time yeah they do I mean we still have used to have the traditional pharaohs and we also have a lot of what we call most of modern funerals too to meet people's needs for example. If you know recently I had in the town church the people didn't want to hymns they want to see the music and the minister they were allowed bats and that this gentleman was a bit of a boy and used to love doing karaoke and singing my Y. So halfway through the service they had everyone up singing my wife you know says about the person and you know respecting the religious side if that's what they want but also making it personal to that family has that been a bit of a transition if you like then for of fit churches here in jazz he or anyone indeed anywhere to be able to play pop songs and I mean you know I think it's becoming more and more acceptable some churches don't allow that and that's their belief and we can we must respect that but there is other churches that will allow for for CD music or pop music to be played in the church and I think that's the good thing with the funeral director is that he'll come in and help you through that process and what he needs to do is get a feel for that family and trying to even the best ideas to make sure that funeral is really personalized to that person so we've been asking at the top of the hour if you've ever attended a unique services ceremony and to let us know seventy eighty five five but if you just put your headphones on there and that we have Marcus on the line hi there Marcus Carey Hart told how are you today you're right they're fine thank you very much yeah good so tell me you got a little bit of a story in terms of a unique seven seventy yes my mother died in two thousand which are. Not being religious but of some one of our from Rio really I mean immediate family anyway we wanted to do sorry but different from so we ended up from putting up a marquee in through her house in one I'm just having a completely normal just ceremony up there and you feel that that would have suited her character a lot more than at them being in a more formal environment Oh definitely it seems that our character is suited Maher and my dad's character it was it was really good the only difficult problem the problem we had with our parents was still alive and very quite religious. I completely respected our wishes in it and I knew exactly what she was like. By you by the whole thing went ahead with their blessing did your mom play an active part in making the plans not really emotional to her about a year before she died in a snowstorm and we really spoke about it she did say to my dad you know she didn't want entrust. With the funeral she she did say she did want a non-religious funeral for you got a boost but those wishes really and how do you feel that it went I mean what sort of a memory is that for you now ticking back the sort of three four years later oh it's pretty brilliant when I still get people coming up saying your mom's funeral was really good and not an hour and a horrible sort of way but it was it's just it was just great memories of when I spoke at a funeral my daughter spoke of you know she's fifteen at the crime our son who was twelve I'd written a song and he played a funeral. Her whole thing is just you know would people still mention it now you know the whole thing with on a poor helpless along with everything and by people we did everything we wanted for her and Paul do you remember that as a fun day yeah I had the privilege of knowing muxes mum and his dad and you know it was just an amazing tribute to to the lady because that's what she would've wanted for sure. Do you find it sometimes pull that it can help not know and levy a bit maybe take away a tiny amount of sting when it comes to personalizing a funeral and making about the passon Yeah I think so because it's involving the whole family as Marcus just said his daughter and his some markers are involved and you know made them part of it and I think it was just beautiful tribute to a lovely lady OK Well Marcus thank you so much for I forgetting involved do you have any plans for your own. Cheerful Mondays neighborhood adding that I'm going to hand out to go on as I have not really forced one from going to go not any off the last twenty three well you know she still lived you know him money. Well look a more she's got a little dog she didn't she's your own memories and that's a great way to live on I think that we are right Marcus thank you so much no problem at all thank you you're listening to B.B.C. Radio Jersey that was Marcus sharing his story you can do that too seven two zero two five five Marc is there something quite interesting there which I'm sure that you hear a lot I read that of saying yet I don't really want any fuss Yeah quite regularly you hear people don't want fuss and you know it's making it for that person and I always think it you know it's it's making it right for that person which is the important thing on the die and I mean we still do get some funerals where people don't have any attendance and it's just purely a for burial or cremation with no attendance OK does that happen often here into we get a few and that's normally the person's personal request and they've stipulated that before they pull so why would that be somebody who's very elderly not necessarily It could be anybody really they can blame for some reason or another they don't want to funeral service so they don't have one they just have lever burial or cremation with no attendance what some of the more unusual request that you might happen had in terms of ceremony and. We've had marquees we've had. Services in chess for normally just people we've had coffins on the backs of lorries So gentlemen to Laurie we had one well two actually would crane drivers and they want to go on the back of the crane to go to the criminal in which we we did. You know we had various ready requests so we try to always do those of course the abruption living around the island with water as we can have burials of sea inches yes they tell me a little bit about that can you have a burial at sea and what are the logistics involved we have to apply for permission to carry out a burial at sea normally what would happen is that the family would have a service prior to the the burial at say with everybody if that's what they wished and then normally the immediate family just got. To say he run the you can Normandy or the fisheries boat and we do the burial at sea on a position in and just off the demi Japan I didn't know you could still do that I guess I knew that sort of fisherman used to do back in the day but I thought maybe you want a lot to do a lot to do in Jersey and I believe the in the U.K. The only other places Dover really you know I'm not sure about I think Guernsey still does yes as well. I was going to tell you a bit of a story of my partner's great aunt at Jean who passed away recently who was buried in a calm I want to say compostable like a coffin and she collected Joker cards all her life so everybody he went to the service stuck on a joke a cut on the coffin itself and she was buried on a hill and with no headstone and that's how she chose first of all Eco at type of you know as a people sort of wanting to go down that way coffins are coming more and more popular we also have a woodland burial site now in Jersey at St Clement cemetery which the right to drive a choice but to give which is beautiful it's beyond the main cemetery and I've got a little data to walk there for in the spring and it's just a lovely little valley area where you can be laid to rest or your cremated remains and there is no head markers there at all it's a natural burial site OK I'm just going to have a little look at some Facebook comments because ceremonies with Lindsey have been mentioned a couple of times Sally said yes Lindsay did my dad's funeral that I wanted to nominate is fun and she gave us the most amazing celebration of his life it was just perfect you know we've got some very good celebrants in Jersey we're very lucky. Who asked if we got here Peter Valois said I'm looking forward to being cremated and my ashes blown out of a cannon from Elizabeth cause so with rainbow confetti and glitter naturally with burning up playing at the same time. That's great as you know yeah it's nice that people have have a bit of a sense of humor and also I don't know if you've heard about the bio the bio degradable designed to grab a tree and yes we've seen them we haven't had any over here. Yet but they planted on a tree comes out of them from the ground yeah sounds like quite an instrumentalist yes a minute isn't it you listening to B.B.C. Radio jazzy So we're talking about your final sendoff feel free to give us a call seven two zero two five five with radio jazzy B.B.C. U.K. . See. Radio Jackie That story is straight and life. Twenty three minutes to three is the time so this afternoon we're talking about the past lies ations of funerals and we're looking at the increasing trend for that and how it sort of reflects the interests of the person being buried or cremated and I'm joined in the studio by poll battery and that pull it sounds like it could be and I know this is sort of a line that you walk all the time you know it's very somber subject for obvious reasons but are you just looking on Facebook here because we started this conversation that you were coming in and Nikki said she was one of the people he was talking about the bio ends and then she said that she quite like Nick Drake's cello song and then she says I'm maybe I am who knows where the time goes by Fairport Convention and as you say she's quite excited about thinking about this I'm planning Have you think it's great you know and all the funeral directors in Jersey offer a little booklet that you can actually go in and get this free of charge and you can put down your wishes so like this young lady she can put her wishes down on or in a book and keep it for her time you know and I think it's really nice it makes it a little easier for the family at the time as well because so often people are not sure what the person would want to happen or that time of the passing How do people come to the decision as to whether or not to be cremated or buried because he was saying even yourself you balance between the two options I do and I'm still not sure I think I'll probably end up with cremation but it's really down to whether the first thing is whether the person has left instructions in their will or letters of request of what they wish to happen if that hasn't happened then it's really down to the family to decide and sometimes I'll look at if there's a spouse or partner who's passed away what that person did for that person and that sometimes gives them an idea because they'll have a range that although look back at the family history them up your family cry if but for Croatian all the family need to agree the immediate family so that would be the Spanish pair. All the children they would need to agree if it's going to be cremation OK We had a little message from Joey Rowland actually enjoy says hello poll at Bill's funeral we have the songs only time convoy life on the ocean wave and see you again from Fast and Furious and she says Thank you Paul for looking after Bill when he was in your care and looking after they mean I was not lovely thank you. And what about placing things in the coffin with someone yeah we get many requests for and depending really on what's the per what's happening to the person of the can be cremated or buried there is very strict construction restrictions for cremation bad for burial but you know if this family members who want to put a picture in the coffin that can be done. Sometimes I've had for burial had someone who want to put a meal in the coffin of the person which is fine you know pictures some people might have jewelry on which can stay for cremation if that's the option or burial it's really down to the person's wishes but the funeral director always trying to help him you know sometimes you get someone who's passed away rather suddenly or with an illness and they've got children young children and to involve them they might want to do a drawing or letter to Dad or Mom you know will their loved one and then put that into the coffin as well but I always say to them that time make sure you keep a copy so you can keep it as a memory for later in life for that person to say you know which is really important well that in itself is quite a topical and controversial subject isn't it children children or young people at funerals It is yeah I think it's very important to give the children the option. I think they should say Hi I was and I was very late going to my first funeral my parents didn't think I should go to funerals and it was like sixteen seventeen before I went to my first funeral and actually now I regret it because I was scared to get my first funeral but I think children should be given the option of course only the parents know the child the best you know and it's really going to be that parents but you know don't put children off it speak to them about. Funerals you know involve them they might have some words they want to put in the funeral service and it's involving And you know again got in touch he said that there is a need for more in for a more environmental solution burial I had has been banned in Holland cremation is no longer ethical with climate change I think. I know there's been very many studies done after my criminal am here and there is very minimal pollution put into the atmosphere but yes of course we are in time there is going to have to be another system you know but things are evolving all the time and the will be I'm sure in years to come different solutions to commission with using gas am I right in thinking there are issues with our commentary recently No there's not been issues really what's happened is the buildings been there for a number of years and the roof been leaking and they've had problems with that and they've taken the charge time now to replace the roof which is normally a quiet time of the year in the West so they've taken the time to remove the roof and they're replacing it but I believe it well it is opening next Tuesday and the guy has been up there working but we've still been able to do cremations But of course with the building working on the services have been able to be at the Crime Authority they've been at the venues and then the coffin taken to the Crime Authority. And I just want to ask you we're talking at when we talk about unusual ceremonies and ways the van is sending itself off remind me about the motorcycle hat here there's many options and we have a motorcycle over here is that it's quite popular yet people like it they want to go out and then sometimes you get the all the bikers or them following as well as a as a procession to where the service is going to be and I always say yes for rather nice Just recently I had a few very similar and all the bikers actually did a drive past of the crime atory in the hearse was parked outside the door after the service and all the bikers just drove past and gave a reverend and went on and it was just very. Especially an eye for that person because he was a piker. Finally tell me a little bit about your sort of insight into the future and how it's all changing what do you say for the future. I think it's going to be very similar I think we're going to have more celebrations of life and they're going to be more uplifting and about the person it seems to be going that way away from the religious service or less religion in the services I think that always be a place for religious services and there's many different aspects of that but it is becoming more a celebration of life and remembering that person and what they did and the funny times that. It's funny stories about them because whatever you do in a service of half an hour forty five minutes you're never going to live that person's full life it's really just to give a flavor of them well Paul thank you so much for coming in and talking to us about it it's a pleasure thank you listening to B.B.C. Radio jazz funeral director here in thank you to everybody who shared thoughts as well. program now you may remember you may remember rather last week we spoke with one man who's about to embark on a pretty serious Cycle Challenge Michelle says he lives in jazzy alongside his friend John Coates they both set themselves the challenge of cycling all the way from set monitor. Covering a total distance of one thousand one hundred kilometers with the aim of finishing the challenge within just eight days all sponsorship raised will go directly to the hospice cat so how is the first couple of days gone and what have they come up against an all day on track to hitting that target Well Michelle joins me on the line now from France Hi Michelle I love how you write how you doing stay strong and yet find a bit fight today because. It makes a very different thing I'm sure because I saw you on the boat some Friday night tonight and I knew that sort of your weekend is going to be so nineteen twenty degrees sunny and dry so that's quite good cycling temperature. But then the temperature actually today is about twenty eight degrees and it was and it was twenty six yesterday wow OK because obviously you are so. Different and are still not used to sort of. Sort of training for the sucking the the sort of leaks you don't get the. Insurance you were doing you know the train literally didn't it's been tough enough when the wind John is being relentless Arkansas you know on the way not sort of not slowing down it's just looking back on not to fall behind I'm good Lawson from somewhere so yeah befalling JONES Don't be my target if you push me and without John Paul you would make an excellent So your first day was on Saturday give us an idea of how many miles or kilometers you are covering the state if you don't sustain Sunday now what will what will the fourth first Major Hasan eighty five eighty five first day wow. Under yesterday and today John. Eighty seven. Eighty seven is another thirty left That's incredible and say you're talking is to have this done in a day and then if you if you keep up this sort of every one hundred protégé you were going to be on track on in another post so I was a see a problem to sort of talk about it doing a different thing and I mean I would recommend anyone to try this for the challenge because it does challenge your mind and your body for sure you must be starting to hurt now I am well yeah yes I see what it is and I saw my first day because we saw the cyclist from to Normandy to Brittany and the scenery is beautiful so you have different you know you have you know there's a sea of the sea and then we saw the star here and now. What is this for us it's. A lawyer they don't do that well that was nice. Yes they but this is just fields and this is why the road to slight never ending for you and honestly for ever good and. Seriously and I know I mean I would say that would start but I'm not fine today was probably been the toughest and yesterday was probably at the end it was I had enough water continued Yeah I was good and is. It Out something I never said I was going to be easier best That's what I called a challenge on the show I mean I can imagine when there's a bit of water involved and you can post a river you know by the coast that it's a bit more you know a bit more interesting but then when it gets agricultural and stays agricultural as does his Dorian fronts then I can imagine it gets a bit tough So where are you now want to do is I mean I'm stuck I can do this challenge without was a good friend John and I said only fair that I pasta for nothing OK How to get. High John how you had none yeah yeah yeah very well I sure yeah yeah it's good when the weather's been good apart from a couple hours on the first trip to demolition but one thing that's been beautiful sunshine good because Michelle was telling me that I'm if it wasn't viewed he'd be lost the whole way to there's a little bit about you wait. A long story was a big truck that went that's about the first or the last I write so Michelle was telling me last week that he would be literally lost without you doing this this challenge to tell us a bit about you root. Yeah we started in smaller Oh and then it is free personally. And yesterday we were down into the wall Valley near. Where you place and then today we've sort of. Been going on a lot of straight roads and with about twenty miles south of Port. Having to move. Right I can now be found it physically. So it was not a big truck and I thought OK we're on the sort of adjacent to quite a busy road here OK I'll try again. How are you finding it physically holding up. Yeah here we've been Did you say how you finding it physically yes yes STORY Yeah you know we've been taking on plenty of fluids. Plenty of gels and stopping for snacks on the way so yeah you know we're doing fine actually lovely So where do next stop by to next sort of pay off id where do you end up tonight. We end up. It's a place called. Little to shorten its. Which will be probably forty miles to see most self what here is. Just above the emotionally OK and I am right in the game that you put your wives hand haven't you sort of driving ahead of you and meeting you at each point that's right my wife and Michelle's wife were in a motel human they're checking into the campsite every night and setting up and. Have a nice crew there for us ready I think when we get back hopefully nobody really sound like a great team this is John thank you so much for talking to me and same to Michelle we wish you the best of luck and let's touch base later on in the week and hear how you go on. Yeah that's fine you're right she is John Birchers for you listening to B.B.C. Radio jazzy that's junkets and also Michelle. Cycling and big heat from Somalia down in order to raise money for Jazzy hospice cap I thought lost loved ones who have for Steve Kaffir jazzy hospice so where all the funds that they raise will be coming to the charity and if you want to support them or find out bit more about what they're up to you can just visit the jazzy hospice care website and this little page dedicated to them it's B.B.C. Radio jazz he is who often in program he's the Mavericks. 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Seanie is a clinical psychologist here in jazz he founded and runs the jazzy international mindfulness center which teaches the practice and educates on how to incorporate it into your everyday life for perhaps better health relationships Korea focus in general feelings of wellbeing now next month a brand new ten week course starts at the light a medical center which will be finding out about surely shortly that first I caught up with Dr Alessia Augustinian here he begins by telling me a little bit about his career background. I actually came to judge as a chef a ninety ninety seven then went back to City nineteen ninety nine. I did a degree in psychology applied psychology I worked as a research assistant an assistant psychologist in various settings. High security settings brain injury pain severe mental problems and then I applied for a competitive doctoral training package one that interview process and offer the medical training package a Leeds University So that's the basic qualification for a clinical psychologist a complex about eighty S. And after dark to specialize and we we get trained to do three things clinical psychologists one is a car the academy and teaching one is research into one is therapy I saw two lots of types of therapy as part of my training and after you qualify you pick up maybe something that you feel you want to specialize in a little be more and I stumble across month or less in two thousand and eight nine where some friend and colleague said you should go and try this two day workshop in Manchester so I found myself as a. Clinical psychologist in a body center in hunches the thinking where my doing here and I was introduced to my first that mantra as meditation practice. And then I practiced for twelve months and decided to go on and train to teach and that's a two three four yes process depending how long you want to spend on it which involves you practicing what you preach. Going away on weeklong meditation retreats two or three times and then practice on a super vision and keeping a super fit vision reading and knowledge as you go along what was it about the practice that you connected with so much is fascinating because I think it took me a while to work it out probably because I was trying to use my head to work it out and I remember the first time I did what we call a body scan which is a meditation where you close your eyes and just feel part of your body without trying to relax or switch off add an experience which I Adam had before which was and I didn't realize he later again that I had stopped and as human beings we never stop when I sleep brains work even faster and I experience was quite liberating in a sense but also I relaxed and I realized at that point I had never stopped and relaxed and got my foot of the accelerator ever before. So it wasn't a conceptual you know. Knowledge moment was an experiential moment which as a psychologist I wasn't really trained to do up to the point so that really touched me and I thought I need to practice a little be more. To notice is that I don't practice in reading the sorts of science behind it. I have quite a reaction to the idea of being in a body centered to begin with and I teach secular mindfulness which he's western modern man fullness the snow Buddhism in it the admittedly a body monk who teach a man from this I'm not teaching in light meant I teach skills to help people live a better life less stress more focus better performance and people you often see as life changing so yeah I mean you said that you felt that before you fast connected with it at that you never stopped needing a kind of condition to feel like that we just have to keep going and if we stop something awful it's going to happen totally So we go with these obsession with doing that because we feel it's productive the science in the data backed up the more we do and juggle a multitask. The Wes we get at it the less productive we get it becomes almost an obsessive need to do and when it doesn't work we just try harder and in a sense to be like using a shovel to get ourselves out of prison we use a wooden shovel doesn't work which I would a better shovel a metal shovel a platinum shovel a golden shovel and we still digging so is still digging ourselves a hole so that we don't stop from when we're very little we create these rules about what's normal. About When We should be able to do things well grades we should get you know is feeling for the A level students yesterday and my son is getting is. Next week and there's so much pressure on competing performing and winning that we stop stopping and connecting with all of us and as a result people become more stressed. Don't enjoy life disconnect from others and so we live in really crowded places we really disconnected and isolated Do you think sometimes we can connect to doing with self-worth as well we kind of boast about being busy count way how you oh I'm so busy I mean credibly busy I'm doing things all the time. What a minute to stop and it's kind of a little bit of pride in it I was brought up in a very working class family in Italy and my parents were twenty four seven and it's just you know Israel knows me they'll tell you I work twenty four seven by Stuart forty eight seven so I think you're right there's something about being busy the three warding gives us immediate gratification a sense of self-worth However a business is also a strategy to not address things and to not stop and self care and spend time we friends and family and self develop and do all the things that make life worthwhile and we usually already invest in one areas we put all our eggs into one basket which is really warding to begin with Danny feels like we're working through. Hoops jumping through hoops so yes I agree with you I think giving B.C. Definiteness a sense of self-worth status importance sometimes just keeps was destructive as well that issue Well let's talk a little bit about the Jesse international mindfulness center and how that started and what he said. Beetle a story that I am. Came as a psychologist initially set up an independent practice. And that was a dozen and nine and then I think I recognized that being developed mindfulness and requests increasing for these and the data and the science increasing for this disk will be something bites the can stand on its own legs so I started off very much when my practice course I don't my course is from hospice some of my course I do lots of here in the U.K. And in Dubai in October. Something with the rugby people in the U.K. As well I reckon I start this could be something by itself and it should be something by itself a standalone package so I started with my practice course had really fantastic feedback at the time then I met someone at the barbeques do or doing a project you know a judge is like doing a project on a doctorate a doctoral training who wanted to pull together a package for the workplace and entrepreneurs and I decided to support by putting together this package that this person I'm going to reveal and Jesse did the study to use as part of the research project. And then I thought you know probably be good to incorporate this. Is an issue that means because I don't teach bodies month fullness is accessible to everybody and so after that what's happened is that not only are on course that we can which are for stress but also do a lot of consultation advice research in House leadership courses in various corporates here in the U.K. And starting in Dubai knocked over so that should be interesting so we're sort of going into business psychology as well here at May I come from a clinical background and I'm fascinating what this is taken me because my background is really extreme stress my bread and butter is therapy with post-traumatic stress obsessive compulsive disorder severe deep depression you know really Syria aspects of stress and none for less is a great tool that everybody can lend and can actually prevent stress from occurring so for example control studies and U.S. Marines up Shanda U.S. Marines. Significantly less likely to be traumatized if they practice mindfulness I suppose if they don't on blind controlled studies where they under Look at them to not think of mindfulness immune system improves if you have a flu vaccine today and you practice mindfulness you'll have doubled the antibodies seen for weeks compared to someone who doesn't so a lot of this teaching and people in the sun is not just about the mind all our system improves with it is it refreshing for you to be able to sometimes now work with not people who are just perhaps on well but people who are striving for success they're here working with the other side of how we can use these pills Yeah definitely and you know being in the workplace is such a refreshing place to be. The work is a lot easier than people are going through the western world and the BEEN THROUGH also is quite nice too it's a bit a bit like thinking about it as flossing you know it's good to get the prevention in before things escalate and you know we've got to make sure people in the workplace you know good people are depressed stressed are persistent pain so all those people seem to find benefits from it they focus model become the perform better and that includes all levels so they're going to zation So tell us a little bit about the edited mindfulness for stress course which is coming up in September is that right yeah start on a second of September the Saturday mornings and I do that on purpose one because he keeps me practising because after a busy week I do two eight pm usually most days is nice to have a nice gentle contained space to relapse of the skills and there is an eight week course accredited by breathwork who are a community into an interest company I pretty much started with them it's us and eight I trained with the people who developed the package and written that it's books one is Monthly is for health one is a little workbook for stress. And over the eight weeks people it's a bit like a driver's license so you do a little bit of fear that helps understand how the body responds and other minds responds but also we do a lot of driving which is a meditation practice and then the idea is people go off in between each week and practice some of the skills in everyday life. How how could a course like this affect a passenger life how could they sort of come out on the other side can I show you I mean is there something would you be willing to me to show you a little meditation two minutes OK would I work so so if I want you to drop us closer to the same thing. And as you call your eyes you may become aware of your breath and your body sitting on the chair he may not is that the air is cooler as you breathe in and warmer as you breathe out just saying with that for a moment and as you breathe in can in Mark invite you to make a start to feast as you cannot do the same thing tight fist tighter. Than just check what's happened to your breath if you're holding start again and then releasing the feast really slowly and not easing What does that feel like smooth as you more like sticky when you have cut it heavy shopping bags then revealing your fingers and open your rice. So what you notice happens when you clench your fists to the breath on the shoulders of the jaw the stomach did you notice anything up and when I clenched my fast I probably stopped breathing actually and when I released I didn't just feel it in my face and I felt it throughout So you felt as a chain reaction going on and mandarins a way of paying attention and all sounds rich coming from a psychology is no use in the head so much which is why I found it a liberating and interesting when I first funny that means we become really good X. Rays of our experience our experience now we feel changes all the time but because we B.C. We stop paying attention to it so stress builds up a lot of alarm systems in a sensory body touch smell sight and we totally ignore it at least too late and that explains why for example I thought I'm going to France today and you two for example meditate on yeah there are six can both Monday and then you often go on holiday get ill and actually get it when you go on holiday is that what tense up and we just totally ignore our bodies we where we don't we don't stop and as soon as we connect we still realized about things so mantras the ways of keeping also aware of what's going on so we have better chance of let go when we wasting energy through holding that's when we're discussing it if somebody is listening today and they'd like to come along to your course or just find out a bit more before they actually commit what should they day and a few ways one is to look at Facebook page a lot of posts healthful posts and tips on there which is just international money from the center you can't miss it. No one is drop us an email month for less R J S Y I M C The called the U.K. . And you don't want to just googling but I'm really happy to answer e-mails as well if people have any questions you're listening to B.B.C. Radio jazzy That was Dr Leslie I guess Cheney a clinical psychologist here in jazz he founded now runs the jazzy international mindfulness center and you want to find out more as. He said Just Google it Jesse international mindfulness center and all the in fact will be that I mean two minds as to whether or not to leave that sort of meditation in there on the radio hope you didn't find it too but I'm it was quite good Dammit demonstration actually as to every sure way to give you an idea as to how it can affect your mood and if you're sure Mount time and Danica that's mindfulness It's half past three is me carry with you camera mortars with you from four o'clock. She. Says. She. Says. She spoke. To. You. Wow wow wow eye out B.B.C. Radio jazzy that is of course the place and done stand so close to may already be a bit of a heads up as to something that's happening at later on this week here on B.B.C. Radio jazzy you're invited to join Cameron more this Friday lunchtime for a very special edition of the hot seat we're going to be having a bit of a reverse hot seat by the usual house Tony Gilham is on man in question so it's this coming Friday the twenty fifth of August is going to be his last official day as the mid-morning presenter to hear him on all the bits of the output as the mid-morning presenter on B.B.C. Radio jazzy so we thought that it would only be right to have him as the main man in the hot seat before we bid him farewell so as always we want to hear from you. If you've got any questions for Tiny on his career with us at B.B.C. Radio jazzy or any memories you'd like to share or even just a simple message of goodbye you know that give us a call seven to eight to five five if you want to question in the pot ready to us an e-mail radio. U.K. With the subject hot seat and you know we'll be rolling this coming Friday between twelve and one here on B.B.C. Radio as he would come out and guest tend to. A. Take just want to share it feels a message because we were talking about mindfulness and meditation. I just stumbled across an event which is taking place this evening because of course there's a big eclipse in the at today is the twenty first although we can only see it from America but it is happening despite the fact we can see a is happening so at this evening between ten to seven and seven there's an eclipse meditation here and jazzy it says weld wide masses of people amazing to meditate together at this eclipse a joy to and. To join them it says here in ancient times eclipses When one for that transformative huge impact and change they brought to civilization eclipse this Monday is covering much of Northern America where some extreme events are already taking place meditation focus on an open heart and strong intention is a very powerful thing to do at this time where postholes it says open to affect huge change so that meditation tonight how Davis Park ten to seven could involved. Radio jazzy just after half past. There are times when I'm searching for themes but this week's edition of Sunday classics has a familiar one the music you hear in the background is one of the most popular pieces of my music coronation Scot Ramones quite a few view that the. Show is taking place this week and more details in the program including functions warm. 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Radio jazz he would make Harry between one and four o'clock a few things that we're going to be looking at that we're going to talk about autobiographies everyone thinks they really could pick in the night but is it one worth writing this big trend at the moment for people publishing their own autobiographies and doing it for lots of different reasons some people just because it's cathartic and for their well being others because they genuinely think that they're not has been fascinating and other people will want to read them and others just to have the experience of writing and publishing a body of work so there's lots of different reasons why people might do that but we're going to be talking about that in the program tomorrow also this weekend marks International bat night we're going to be hearing what you can do to sound right here and jazzy and get involved and what is an eco chats we'll be finding out about that too and also we're going to be joined by the original Paul dog Robin Alice he may have had a little bit earlier on in the program that he plans to come to Jazzy on the eleventh and twelfth of October for a very special food and diabetes related event but he's going to be joining us live on the show as well how. Be a Each Costs. Take quite seriously. B.B.C. Radio jazz it up. Into the next. Six to take you up to Cameron and indeed to the news. Radio. And Heaven must be missing and I keep reaching out to Georgians and I even thank you very much feel that's so cool but that's about it for me time to be back tomorrow between one and four here on B.B.C. Radio. To Enjoy your evening writing for now I'm going to hundred to comment please. Place. Thank you carry on the way up to follow me singing on your old girl who wants to help. Please. Please please please.

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