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There's a photo of me as Katie has a sport there live post your gun club says that Marcus Rush's goal in the. United shows all the problems with Ca are Rushford I've no walls allowed to stand by despite Liverpool's protests that difficult was found in the build up Adam a man as late strike means that Liverpool maintain the unbeaten starts in the Premier League but the lead at the top drops to 6 points hearts have opened an investigation after reports that the Rangers striker last was racially abused in the Scottish Premiership want to draw England for our just says he was really surprised that no one picked Chris Gayle in the draw for the 100 Afghanistan spin a rush he can was the 1st pick and will play for the Trent rocket while far I have signed Australian style Steve Smith and Mitchell Starc and Andy Murray broke down in tears after winning his 1st singles title 9 months after returning from Korea saving hip surgery he beat south of rink in the deciding set to win the European heights all calling it one of the biggest wins of his career this is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live on digital b.b.c. Sound smart speaker. And the weather joy with Broyhill sunny spells in many places on Monday but clarity with the rain for the southeast will also push into the northern else along with fresh and winds always today of knowing that Aberdeen 11 for troops was in the army the least a relief to anyone else Kesha was trying to change her duty ship later recently an 8 pm pick up stage Sheffield United This is awesome this is your call station and this fees I. Am for like a 5 month old son that a buyer coming up in this hour polls open in Canada's general election later today with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. A risk of losing power as it's got anything to do with blackface also look at the week's news in New Zealand where they concentrate on the rugby news inverses on in the quarter finals gun owners they're also trying to pressure politicians and warning that they could form a voting bloc for next year's election one political party or another will be tempted to call their votes which will undermine gun load changes following the Christ Church mass shooting and they're also deliberate see why one of the biggest media companies suddenly announced plans to sell its t.v. Operation and we've got tips on the best podcast available. The government says it's pressing ahead with efforts to get them breaks a deal passed this week in parliament despite Boris Johnson having been fools to send a letter to Brussels asking for another delay number 10 said the prime minister sent Parliament's let's say to Brussels which was unsigned and accompanied it with a 2nd letter which was signed explaining why the prime minister believed the delay would be a mistake labor however said it will back him is to approach the deal to referendum Meanwhile the European Council president Donald Tusk will spend the next few days canvassing e.u. Leaders on whether they want to offer another Briggs leg to Kevin a is program leader for Politics at Edgehill University in Lancashire so a pool of Keaveney. If we have any idea what the coming week may bring so many things that could actually happen always got the Queen's Speech float coming up so at the end of the debate on the Queen's speech the vote is normally a formality but possible accounts of what is. Going to. Label that withdrawal bill then there's going to be all sorts of amendments table to that and it's up to the speaker which amendments are accepted and then they'll have to be a decision made about the timing of the debates on the bill and that's another thing that could be amended or affected by opposition M.P.'s So the short answer to your question is is completely unpredictable at the moment are we any clarity on if we will leave. Next week because we're scheduled to do cordons of the Government Well I think it's looking very very unlikely because the business with the deal so we have to have a deal if outing a deal with the e.u. The e.u. Has to accept it and the European Parliament has to accept it as well and there's a limited number of opportunities for the European Parliament to do that so if the opportunity of this week is missed We're bumping into November anyway and certainly I think it's highly unlikely that the amount of legislation that needs to be processed can be got through between now and the protest of up it's a handful of days isn't it and you know what we're seeing really from Opposition M.P.'s at the moment is that there's an increasing willingness to table amendments for example on having a 2nd referendum on a customs union and this all takes time. But the government keeps insisting that we are going to leave the most obvious is you 1st. Well I'm the government has to insist on it and I think if I was both Johnson I would be thinking. If we don't leave then people have seen me siting on land determined to leave I won't be blamed for the lot the people who will be blamed will be Paul a month will be opposition and pace so I actually I still maintain my position of taking this out of the European Union and then when I go into an election people will say that I've been standing out for the referendum on the problem is caused by all these other people so the next election whenever it is cold it will be listen more than sit in a gin that referendum if you like well I suspect the housework is being hopeful but the problem with saying is that the forgeries and I wanted in 27 change remember when she called the election a really it was to sort out practice it and not seem very sensible until all these other issues started popping up so I don't think we can find a even at this stage that this election will be just about Rex it but I think it will be more about bricks it than previously and even wall it will be a pile this business of what people want to what people get siloed the conservatives will be thinking we're going to go into this election cycle we well we want to deliver what you all saw look at these are the parties that are stopping that will be the law and that's what we will be about bricks it but it will be multiplying out this people versus Paul of an issue is there a way and this might be a completely stupid question so full Francis that me down but. I'm used to it believe me way that the government can simply say I'll say. If it uses symbolically at least we've left the European Union but it's just some not symbols to get through assume. The practicality all the specific. Obligations to get through before we leave otherwise but essentially spiritually symbolically we've left that that could be the p.r. Message and there were 2 The fact is even if almost 31st that everything had been done there would still be negotiating trade agreements for the next 2 or 3 years so whenever. Assuming we leave whenever we do belief there will be more to do so the government can always make that all 2 months Chile we've really done materialize it's signed sealed and many delivered so I actually we can all celebrate all commiserate this has happened so I suspect I could use that message I don't think Boris Johnson is as water age about date shifting as people would have us believe offing he has a very clear message which is that he is the one standing up for this and it is all the people who are slowing him down and not actually the more he gets obstacles thrown in his why the more he gets like them the stronger his actual message becomes so this is why I think he will keep repeating he will keep repeating the state pool Keaveney the program Native policies University and. Polls open in Canada is generally legit late today with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau at risk of losing power or reports of Vancouver to cd. Just remind us why Justin too does grip for power as slips last few weeks. Hello well in the heady days post election or 4 years ago he was the poster boy of progressive values he was on the cover of Rolling Stone with the with the caption Why can't he be our president but he was always going to face that challenge of a very dramatic turnaround from the previous a Conservative government he had quite a lot of he had promised but there was going to be a challenge in delivering all of that and he very rapidly came into some very troubled waters with be kept with Canada's relations with Saudi Arabia with true the newly reelected President Trump who wanted to renegotiate tariffs and China eventually and create his critics say that his key promise is that he's not delivered aside from foreign policy problems are he promised action on climate change but in fact he bought a pipeline this is the. Highly controversial pipeline which brings oil sands from Alberta in the interior to the coast here in British Columbia he promised electoral reform he said the elation of 2015 will be the last with the 1st past the post system he couldn't get across party support so he dropped the idea altogether for the plan that he wanted and he promised reconciliation with 1st Nations with the candidates indigenous population he commissioned lots of reviews reports commissions but he failed to deliver many 1st Nations people feel on the big promises that he made and then of course the big political scandal s.n.c. Love alone which in which montréal industrial accused of paying bribes abroad was due to be investigated and he was found guilty to. Introduced found guilty of violating violating Canada's conflict of interest act by putting pressure on his own officials including ministers to somehow temper that investigation and then to cap it all we had what would be in any political situation in any country and I was wholly astonishing scandal the blackface fiasco which was only a month ago now shocked and embarrassed many in his own party and. To have sent shock waves around the world quite frankly whether that was the scandal of him. Being seen in photographs from a few years ago not that long ago having said that just before yes because last time I was in Mr sorry the last one was well yeah the last one was 2001 so he was blackface basically painted his face black in a sort of you know stereotypically mocking of black brown people as well Ok how much of that loss because as embarrassing if nothing else but the other issues that you mentioned he was the policy issues that people might vote for him or against him or how much of the loss of power is due to those other issues prior or how much of it is due to this scandal about the Black Rose. Well what's quite surprising really in relation to the blackface. Scandal is that he seems to have weathered the storm now he's the conservative opposition main opposition and the liberals were neck and neck at the start of the election campaign and guess what they're absolutely in a dead heat at the end of the campaign so and so much of the debate that subsequently happened here has been really about policy issues there's been relatively little by way of promises made by any of the main political parties on what they would deliver and a huge amount of mudslinging you know the sort of. Attacking each other's plans programs you know claims that people are making up. Other people's platforms and programs so and the bloody face scandal which which was so shocking actually to many people within the Liberal Party. Here in Canada many he embarrassed he was forced to apologize to his own black and ethnic minority ministers and M.P.'s and indeed to the opposition main another all of the opposition leaders judgment saying of the n.d.p. And just remind you to go know the Canadians going to the polls under the new voting laws what exactly is judged. Yeah this is rather interesting actually so candidates have. Implemented a number of reforms making it easier to vote so there were 4 advance polling days last weekend from Friday to Monday and an estimated 4800000 people voted now and given that the total vote of voting the number of people eligible to vote here is 2700000 sorry 27000000 that's that's a really big chunk Also you can register at your polling station on Election Day You just have to turn up with the right id Now that's pretty much. As far as parliamentary democracies are concerned around the world if you have no fixed abode or no documents someone else can vouch for you you just have to turn up with another registered voter who's registered to vote at the same polling station. Also ex-pat Canadians can vote regardless of how long they've been living abroad an issue which I'm sure would. Make a lot of the people who are unable to vote in the referendum in the u.k. Rather envious and I did go to drugs over a week but I. You have to be a Canadian citizen and then there are other sort of issues around for an unfair of elections which were introduced. Recently which sort of toughened up a system where we get a result. So the results will start to come in at around 4 am tomorrow morning the election goes on for for several hours Canada's vast country 6 time zones huge geographic distances thousands of polling stations tens of past thousands of postal workers of their election workers so it's a pretty momentous exercise but they start to get their votes through rather quickly through here at 3 am tomorrow the polls close in the last. Time Zone and then around 4 am we start to get the vote results works perfectly for up to speak to them as well just in the For now thanks very much it's in the city to the event let's catch up with the week's news news either with Colin Peacock who is. Caught in our you know our get a on find on and you very well thanks very much as the rugby truth. Has been treating us very well indeed Today's on air from the quarterfinal majored in style and then it was highly anticipated we always would be in such a rugby made country is New Zealand but of course our final poll game just like England's one against France was cancelled because of. New Zealand did not get to play Italy last week so rugby fans were itching for a game and the team to Evidently after 2 weeks off and it was supposed to be a close one and Joe Schmidt the Irish New Zealand born coach man who has a lot of respect here but in the end the young or black team really thrashed Ireland I think was 4614 in the end but it could have been a big imagine. New Zealand rugby supporters very happy and very confident of that Simeon final against England next week and indeed before you get your confidence see much you know the England coach says he's got a secret plan and you know anything about that you know what it is. I don't think he Jones will be revealing as a secret plan although he has actually been in. Touch with Steve Hansen the All Blacks coach apparently the pair of them swapped takes me said just before their quarter final games they're supposed to be friends but I mean I know it is Jones is a guy that rubs people up the wrong way but Steve Henson put on record that he really admires Eddie Jones not not just because of his record with the Wallabies without question before. But also what it is Jones did coaching Japan in the last World Cup and that astonishing miracle of Brighton which they couldn't quite repeat beating said Africa 4 years ago but not in the quarter final this past weekend so Stevenson said Jones did an amazing job with Japan then that's been carried on now and now with the England team the England performance I think was pretty similar to New Zealand's one against Ireland they had you know 2 tier one countries both of them on good form New Zealand and England meeting a challenge from. Ireland an Australia respectively but both cases they were they were clinical and they were they were completely on top so next weekend's game really is going to be a question of the Titans stuff after the crows juge massacred with all the last thing a politician would do would be to have themselves photographed carrying a gun. Of the trigger happy minister. And they are not just in the gun but the selfsame or a replica of the self same weapon that the Christchurch gunmen used and has attacked now this is it's in a way it's a funny story but obviously not funny we've talked before on up all night about New Zealand's gun seamy automatic gun ban after the Christchurch mosque massacre and the buyback scheme so they're trying to persuade In some cases grumpy and resentful gun owners to hand back these weapons because they will be again to be against the law to possess one by the end of this year and so yes government ministers certainly should not be going on holidays to Thailand and photographing themselves and then putting it on Facebook. Firing one of these weapons for fun and that's exactly what Shane Jones did you know if you were to say to a news room look minister was gone and undermined the government's gun ban policy by photographing himself shooting at and see me automatic weapon on holiday they would say Don't tell me let me guess it's Shane Jones isn't it and sure enough it was this guy is a very experienced politician he was actually formally a minister with the current ruling Labor government he lifts politics and then rejoined the Mynah Paddy the holds the balance of power here in New Zealand fewest and he's had a reputation as a bit of a maverick but really I mean the pictures are terrible he's an. Investor holiday vase to sweep the amp it's holding up the this big Sydney automatic rifle and holding up a picture of the target from the shooting range he was at with all the holes near the center very proud of himself and of course this has absolutely no message to say in when when the government is trying to persuade people with weapons that they've only got until December the 20th to hand the back all the breaking the law . The prime minister's. Displeasure. She has and she's had to say look you know Shane Johns has a reputation for Maverick behavior she said I cannot police and I will not police what members of other Patti's are slightly distancing herself from Shane Jones in the New Zealand shows Paddy that I can't police what they do on holiday but she said the important thing here is that he expresses his support absolutely for our policy on guns and the change of law because every single in payout of 120 voted for this change or one who's a standalone member of a one man Patty that has sort of libertarian tendencies so Shane Jones came out and said look absolutely I backed this policy didn't even know the gun I was firing he said very young and convincingly you don't really know these semiautomatic weapons are on more of a shotgun guy and that didn't really help him to the scandal but he has reaffirmed that he supports the band but. Here's the thing as it currently has Patty New Zealand is having its annual conference and attracted a crowd of about 120 odd Absi at gun owners who protested outside the patties conference about the party's support for the policy they're saying there I bet 150000 odd registered respectable Laura biding gun owners who don't like the fact that they've been caught up in the change of law and there are votes they say up for grabs at the next election now this is a patty New Zealand 1st that hovers around a 5 percent mac if you get 5 percent of the popular vote you get representation on Parliament so that's what this party depends upon so that the worrying thing is that come next year when the general elections on that a political party in New Zealand 1st or another one could use this kind of cranky n.t. Or Thora Tyrian shared anger of the so-called gun lobby to have a vote and undermine the gun policy and that really isn't what we need but we're trying to get these guns off the streets we've heard salute about the cries juge. The cries to. Trial the trial the round the trials churches. Yeah it's gone quiet a little bit it's not going to be for some months yet there was. A push by the legal team for the accused to have the trial moved out of the city but that the trial actually will take place in Oakland next year and the the the worrying thing the thing everyone was trying to avoid was that the accused and his even his supporters might use this is some sort of rallying point or that he would be able to make statements and have images go around the world and they were looking at the experience of Norway with and as brave and his trial where he was making salutes and giving gestures in court indeed at the very 1st court appearance of the accused in this case he made a couple of hand gestures were as hands were cuffed in front of them and the photographs of that went around the world so it's been very closely controlled and all the court appearances he's made so far he's made 2 appearances in court but at other hearings he's actually appeared on a live link from prison so no opportunity for him to grandstand on the court and that's the thing that's really bothering people but the original court date actually would have fallen during the month of Ramadan so they decided to push it back a little bit so it's a holding pattern now and actually it's not a bad thing if things quiet for a time and there's not not so much focus on this trial going in thanks to his calling for the court that the 5 love had loads. On digital b.b.c. Salads and various cities b.b.c. Radio 5 government plans for a meaningful vote in the Commons on Boris Johnson's bricks that are expected to be blocks later by the speaker is because parliamentary Conventions says M.P.'s aren't supposed to debate the same measure more than once in a parliamentary session for the 1st time since January 27th in the storeman to simply will meet today to debate changes to abortion laws in Northern Ireland's the temporary recalls in response to legislation passed by Westminster 3 months ago 5 p. . Have been killed in Chile after a close factory recess on fire and joining rioting in the capital certainty a go the unrest was initially sponsored by rallies in train fares and politicians in Northern England are demanding lower rail fares and all routes still using $980.00 s. Place the trains they were due to be withdrawn by the end of the year but now they won't be because of a lack of replacements the survival of news Casey has the support now live Paul boss you're going Klopp says Marcus rush with goal in that one will draw months United shows all the problems with they are rushed it's open no was allowed to stand by Fionnuala despite liberals protests that difficult Regi was found in the build up United boss Ali going to socialist says it was never a file and has praised referee Martin that concerned what I saw today may be one of the many other much a lot of good players out there were I thought the referee needs appraising as well it's not very often that we do but he like to be here Darby game a proper football game is not like to be tough being you can't talk shit anyone I thought we referee the game actually hearts of opened an investigation after reports that the Rangers striker Alfredo Morel us was racially abused in their Scottish Premiership want to draw much united beat managed to city to nil in their group stage match in the Women's League Cup Afghanistan spinet rushy count was the 1st pick of the 100 draft and will play for the Trent rockets West Indies all rounder Andre Russell will be linking up with Joe for Archer at Southern brave and he can't wait to play in the new format is going to be a fast paced game you know I'm going to be a bit faster than t 20 is going to be something new it's going to be fun we're you know people see being hit in the stands from the 1st ball of a day so it's going to be something new hope that it's going to be a success whilst fire will have Australian stars Steve Smith and Mitchell Starc as part of their squad Andy Murray can hold back the tears after he won his 1st singles. Tonsil since returning from career saving hip surgery in January he be stamp of rink in the deciding set to take the European Open title I mean obviously means a lot of last few years have been extremely difficult. Both seen me on style and have had. A lot of injury problems in the last couple of years. Amazing obviously back playing against him in a final Well flyhalf down bigger has praised the teen's resilience to beating France by 20 points to 19 with the last try of the game so wells go through their 1st Rugby World Cup semi final since 2011 the last couple of years we've had we've got salutatory it's been we've almost so forgotten how to lose it in a way we never gave up without a belief in ourselves and I think you just got to you just got to give a hoot about credit to the boys who came out were on the pitch and on the 23 really under 31 actually Wells play South Africa on Sunday after they be host Japan 263 while London Irish beat wasps 2926 in the Premiership in other news Great Britain traffic late Clare Danson has revealed that she's been paralyzed following an accident on her bike in organist play is the sister of g.b. Hockey player Alex Danson Laura Kenny will claim silver in the women's Madison on the final day of the European track championships and Mark Selby has won the English open snooping Crawley Heebie David Gilbert by 9 frames to want to lift the Steve Davis trophy and that's the latest from b.b.c. Sports this is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live on digital b.b.c. Sound smart speaker some are holding them from an area of high pressure building in across the British Isles us from the quiet the weather down for a couple of days looking at a drawing of a drawing everywhere for the race for some of those in the day ahead that particularly if you're in parts of southeast England and least knowingly but I'll start with there was quite a chilly feel on Monday morning 1st got going down from northern Alabama will be a touch of frost in places in fact temperatures a few degrees below freezing in the coldest parts of the other puts here are still what they hope we are going to see some good some spots around of ability of mainly trying to cross Scotland I'm north of all of the clouds going to increase from the west a bit later on and it is in. Shetland later on freshening southwestern we will be can see people breaks and run the March 1st into week and into the sea. The chilly across in little while still a fair amount of cloud around out there and one or 2 showers to begin with a pounding from low pressure close to the far south east of England are awesome outbreaks of rain more especially today towards Kent I 6 Suffolk in Norfolk because they put a touchy rain elsewhere in East Anglia and southeast England quality shows elsewhere in England or whiles on the north east we've raised but will start to see people some exposed to the thing elsewhere as we go through the afternoon take a look at your temperatures that I discovered for Northern Ireland and for northern England highs of 9 to 12 degrees the rest of England have who are also looking at highs of 11 to 14 degrees any bit of mist in fall developing positing the wilds to the experiment by black with the best live sports you know that still leaves clear competition in this Champions League Q I want to play in Munich should I only sees the knights can Spurs turn things around with an icicle take offs us against red star Belgrade's it is your full station and the AC is 5 life is time to go put up now with old cause the focus on popular culture with these choices is the Daily Telegraph speak Norton It's a bit of a broad church popular culture Yeah I mean I've taken its I mean sort of things that are in the 21st century that might be on t.v. Pop music and kind of in the psych Geist and this is something that costs being pouring over since the very early days of the medium but gusting really suits it's pop culture analysis because you can you can really kind of get under the bonnet of a topic you've got lots of space to explore. These moments and issues and you can also bring in audiotapes from you know clips from t.v. Shows clips from maybe's. When you when you consider pop culture within the context . Point cause you're talking about the analysis of pop culture Robert then the eggs purgation you know the performance or otherwise well but yet for this selection of shows they're all looking and analyzing pop culture that's exactly right Ok let's start off with a talk talk culture if you see what I mean a musical one I see can you West's name pop up on the 1st one that you want to talk about right so this is the show called switched on Pop which is presented by a music ologist called Night Sloan and a song bicycle Charlie Harding and they're both American They're both very smart and know there are new ins in terms of. Actual nuts and bolts of how music is made but and in this show they they really pull apart different. Questions and thought provoking issues about pop music so some of the talking points of how this is Kanye West the closest thing the 21st century is up to the Beatles one direction the modern day equivalent of Castro at sea why do so many songs feature musicians screaming hey and the list goes on to give you a sense of how they kind of do this a quick clip here which sound designer Dallas Taylor is talking the hosts through the process of musical mastery here's something that I've been thinking about a lot but 1st I want to start with an example so I want you to tell me which one of these 2 examples sound better to you so here's one. So that's a 1st one. So now take a listen to the 2nd version of this let me know you think Ok. Do you have any overall thoughts you hear any differences between the 2 you know Dallas My initial reaction is that. And I'm I'm not going to nestle have the vocabulary here but the 2nd example you played sounds like juice year it sounds thicker it sounds deeper it makes my head nod with that much more intensity and you know what's going on here so nothing is different other than I turn the 2nd one up oh but all of what you said is exactly the phenomenon that is totally appropriate our ears are weird and they react to things in different ways so everything that you hear you said is absolutely accurate let's run that back one more time because that's blowing my mind Ok can we listen to the 1st example again let's do it. And the 2nd. That's wild it kind of listens like I'm listening to different sign but you're telling me that all that changes that you've up to the volume of the 2nd example in the 2nd example is to decibels louder so what musical phenomenon are we dealing with right now that's a little example of how our ears hear the world slightly differently what it means is that our ears don't necessarily hear everything exactly as the world presents them you know we kind of know that dogs can hear really high pitches and you know that our our hearing kind of gets the top end of our hearing kind of goes away with age but we can hear super low frequencies but there's slopes in there too and so by turning it up just a little bit you hear a little more bass you hear a little bit more trouble it sounds a little bit more full and it kind of tricks your ears a little bit so that switch on top of the 1st of all put calls conversations this morning it does sound you want to hear no argument from me on this because you know this is right up my street but it does sound like this is a pod costs for and they're x. You know the cognisance if you like. Yeah I think that's true and I mean that's something that we find across. Shows often. Rather than looking. I have a really broad mainstream appeal and certainly the show you it's people who want to know yet what's going on and the ideas behind these pop music so they make their unapologetic about that now Fair enough and pop music is an art form so you know if it was a painting if it was like a conversation about the old masters nobody would complain about you know a conversation about technique for example which happened 3 destroys the pleasures of the Mona Lisa frankly right well I think that's something I like very valid point with these shows and that's something they all argue for is like this these works of art are very much part of our day to day that part of our culture now and we should go to talk about them intellectually as well as enjoy them why do female double x. Work well employed cos I think double x. Generally work well and costs something about the kind of you know having having people spars each other and bounce ideas of each other that just really suits the medium and often find if you get you know company three's a crowd certainly in a cost I find shows up for voices. Very hard to follow and I'm an annoying in and some of my favorite shows you know you come out and mayo type shows have a double act and. There's just something kind of. Cheese and pickle about it I'm going to show it with a female double act Pandora Sykes and all the older 10 who are both very successful British journalists and also and they start up cost together in the early 20 teens called the pound only poor cost and that came to an end they then built up a show called the high low which has been an absolute blockbuster success as $1.00 of the biggest pockets in the u.k. And the idea of the show is that they want to build spoke about highbrow and lowbrow culture in the same breath in the same episode. Candidly this show is not it's not a mainstay of my own listening but so many people I know especially young women I know swear by that swear by this book cost and I think it's an interesting example of it's very informal it's most episodes just have a sense of it's them sitting around a kitchen table talking even the sound quality of a kindly from somebody makes because myself the sound quality is very homemade feeling they don't they're not closely Mike. But like I say it's and it's a huge hit and I think that the content of the show is very sharp and they pack a lot into every episode to give you a sense of the sort of vibe of it is a clip from a recent episode where they're talking about Prince Harry's recent letter to the media about the media's treatment of his wife making. I do you not understand the conversations around Macon muckle and when I was in America. Last week what we carry on the whole last I my American publisher was talking to some people who worked at my record books and they said it's a really similar conversation it's happening in the us i just don't think they have to get it they said that there's still this slight. That there's still this antagonism towards her and and a sense of judgment in being above one station or something I did I deny it's so weird to me because I have 0 opinion on Meghan Markle which is why it is so obvious to me that this has to be racially motivated because why else would a group of people dislike a woman so them and they who says like the most innocuous things and where series of like innocuous dresses and yet she psych the way people talk about her as being a psych highly divisive think I just don't stand it yeah I think that's really interesting and I want to come back to that but I found the responses on Saturday from the older God quite funny and also just really predictable and maybe what you said about funny is shocking terrible talking like this lots of them have found this too emotional outbursts for all just possibly part of the problem I don't get is that from the idea that you know they're not real humans yeah the royal biographer penny Juno bustled this feels to me like an over emotional somewhat advised outburst most extraordinary I just find it hilarious most extraordinary for me but as one says if coming out to defend the mother if your child and your wife against the psych every day obese and in the public arena is if that's this like a total non sequitur affair havior just like it makes no sense. Yes and it's all going to kickoff of course after the broadcast of the Duchess of Sussex is interview with i.t.v. To check out the morning papers all this week and that conversation sounds again like an analysis of popular journalism maybe Sure I mean and they they skip between topics very adroitly on the show so well in that particular episode they talk about. The fact that Pizza Express is going on and they took what research your. They talk about Jason Donovan this time as a firefighter but you are so this is quite kind of small the sport of different pop culture topics they take on them though is it about them and their chemistry because. Just listening to that I can't hear v. It's not originality I can't hear but that's not important as much as the. The compulsion to listening can if you like I think so yeah people I know you love the show you talk about really feeling like they are part of a conversation with friends and there's an informal would see to it that you're kind of you're the 3rd person at that stabilises listening and that's for sure and they both have huge followings under and Ali They they also Piers Morgan and pitchfork and called them bring posh girls talking jibberish which I think they they both quote that on their websites it's sort of on yes I would I so. Well decoder ring will set about so this we're going to hop across the Atlantic for this one this is a show made by slight who as you I'm sure know are a very well respected American online publishing I could do a lot of book costs and this is the show they make about pop culture but it's this is an example of a more highly produced nonfiction story selling a cost of the kind of in the classic American mode sent it by some work well up Paskin And each episode looks different pop cultural phenomenon and kind of unpacks how it's from come into being so we've got a clip. From a show which was examining a fire all music about a year ago Jonathan Wright a d.j. And a children's musician who goes by the stage name Johnny only started getting strange comments on his You Tube page I don't read my youtube comments very much but I did start seeing comments they brought out there like you're you know these comments refer to a song Johnny often performed for toddlers and that he had posted on You Tube in 2011 it came with a video that he'd recorded with his kids and his sister's kids and her pool. You're going to. Be here. With. This song was perfect for 3 year olds it is simple lyrics and off repeated chorus and hand motions that corresponds to each verse of the song which Little kids love I knew Mike my kids well enough that I knew that was going to be ahead before I even recorded it you know the song did well for Johnny but it wasn't massively popular or anything it's it was less than 100000 views on You Tube but it was an important part of the show for years. And then he started to get those comments going to look for it with. If you don't have a little kid or know a little kid or know a little kid's parents you may not know this song that's about to change unlike Johnny's version this version of baby shark is extremely extremely popular as of this recording it's been viewed over 2300000000 times it is beloved by small children. That by the way is one of my small children singing it but it has also been performed on talk shows all over the world tweeted about by famous people and inspired a viral video dance challenge she says. It's been performed by celebrities Please welcome Sophie turn on each. Student on the show and inspired countless covers in different Congress. In January 2019 baby shark even debuted on the Billboard Hot 100 where has been as high as number 32 in other words baby shark is a top 40 hit and that like all of this is not normal for a song whose target audience just stopped wearing diapers. Ok I'll be frank and it's really good it's really really good but I couldn't help thinking of serial throughout that why but I guess as a consistent female no writer I mean this is very much in the This American Marseilles yet you have an informal narration mixed in with various quips which sort of move the story along illustrates it so yes it is you know there's no good way to sort this out of American shows and I know it's a struggle isn't it yeah and it was you know I'm not being described about it oh I do get a man's time what was in his investigative in a way even though. That there is less jeopardy if you like you know talking about pop songs in this way it's not about an unsolved jewel unresolved murder for example it's it's it's about pop music you think Well Ok but because of that star Oh. I suppose for me it's like you know after Elvis Presley's Heartbreak Hotel every other singer male singer for the next 5 years you'd reference with Elvis Presley but a lot of them sounded like him let's be frank and it becomes like that you think Ok at some point though we will have had enough of all these Elvis copies you know his him self indeed how far away are we from that moment. Have we reached peak This American Life but cost style I was afraid Good question I don't think I don't see any signs of it coming to an end. But I think one thing I certainly feel as so many listeners will cost in Mexico cost is that we are in the early days the medium and there's something exciting about knowing that there will be new and different styles emerge it's kind of like the early days of rock n roll where we haven't yet found punk or jazz fusion but I feel like they're in the pipe Oh come way that go away I go away and just just to confirm that you're paying attention how does the baby show. Baby shocked. Yeah yeah you know just checking just checking. This mirror for you know the kids of today for they're going to start life with a huge were I mean the. Rule of 3 is the 4th of your podcast suggestions this morning yes so this is a bit more of a simple kind of sit down roundtable conversation show presented by 2 comedy writers Jason hastily and Joe Morris and each episode they talk to another comedian or person who makes comedy about something funny they love so could be a t.v. Show a film book an album or a comic and these going to shows always live and die on the quality of I guess when these guys have got clearly a very good Rolodex full of people who they've known to invite on that had everyone from Charlie Brooker miles job. Brain and we've got a clip here of Super Kings talking them 3 lots of This Is Spinal Tap It's a public comedic piece in my opinion it's everything about it is it's beautiful it passes down a door has been opened a lot since which is it does feel a lot of that happen more committees before but it does. It defined and. Perfected a form has been done again since but no when it was well over a dog is something burning about it and I was trying to think what it what it is I think it is that it's really well directed and the thing about this is Rob Reiner opens up in the 1st going you me is the director Marty Bergen I've noticed every time you watch spontaneity things go unnoticed to the he can't cross his own I've never noticed but he keeps trying and failing us not like a man he's not meant to be in front of the camera it's subtle stuff that you know it's over 26 years but he's out and he says hey I'm a film director you go this is about film and Christopher Guest who oversees been the big going to happen is part of the the heir to the form off to its most made loads of films none of which have quite known to the only do of the crew and the director in the film maker as much they love the characters in that what's great about it is it's about making a film about making from us that you love and it's front and center is the form in the shape of it in a way that most employers action is about people enjoying performing you won't ever find a better backstage scene than the scene where Nigel is trying to get a large circular piece of ham on a small. I mean there is there is an incredible This is Guy This is incredible Joy Browne it's about that sequence but actually what I love watching it again and again is it's not New say it's the direction of the backstage mayhem there are people there extras not being extras you know so where the role of the extreme oath in most but there it feels I've been in a 1000000000 dressing rooms and green rooms and but stayed there my passion that's the only film where I've seen that backstage space represented faithfully as an all of them to see to it that not only the truth in the performances in the acting but also just the Inside this is what on one person I was a heavy metal fan this is a glimpse behind the curtain. And you want to know about and there are little details and no one will forget right unless they knew about that world about world tour is going to been in bands when one of the king was in a band called the Left Bank One dollar and come by there he supported John Denver again they know this stuff means a little bit oh when when Christopher Guest is not to talk was wandering through the hotel suite playing his electric guitar unplugged. Everyone I knew at school played there look at the time play because you can't pick a time to noise that noise part are like a cheese grater was the sound of my teenage and I'd never heard it on film before that you want bigger than sounds like and it's a chilling up and it's cool and it's a nervous to fiddling So it's you know so the Nigel it's the bends it's a constant sort of pentatonic scale with the bends in it. For you know performers so comedy performers it's pacing and running lines or but there's that sort of fibroid also a weird intensity so perfectly sort of configured in that film it's it's it's quite some are saying yeah interesting I mean you can listen to take out you. Know if you seen the film Spinal Tap you're not bothered about how well known the people talking about it is because you get locked into the story very quickly and I mean I love c Perkins Don't get me wrong but actually very the story is big and the messengers of the story right and I mean both of the hosts of the show they always come prepped with a lot of background and reading and knowledge they kind of conversation with tidbits of how the making all the backstage anecdotes and all that kind of stuff I mean the one Chris and I have that they have a habit interrupting that yes more than I would like them to mansplaining up on that show. But especially if you know you can browse through the back catalogue it ones where you you know that talking about there's a great episode with Charlie Brooker talking about the film airplane which I've really enjoyed as well and it's it's a good day or so about an hour long in that it was fun you picked up on an important thing that interrupts your guest I get criticized for that sometimes I'll hold my hands up I think it's slightly different in the kind of a terrestrial radio format because you need to move things on you know you talk about several different things and sometimes I guess. Can a live radio format I should have said you know guests can deliberate a little bit too much will go off shore off piste a little bit too much where is in a pod cost you've got the time and space to allow the guest to do their thing and if anything edited out afterwards why would you interrupt them right. Totally agree and my favorite costs interview people like Mark Marilyn and Terry Gross American radio and book or so state they manage that very well they really just let that guest talk you know where you where given lessons in how to make a point because here is what somebody should pay us for this you know. Should actually. Ok time for me to was she which of the pod cars that you recommended today is your top choice I'm going to go for 3 actually. I feel like it's you know it's not a it's not a high Croft it's about the show. As it doesn't really find job it does what it says on the tin and it may look like yes. They were all good for me they were all good but I'm also going to go through 3 not least because a pick that's often on this occasion that I can talk for England on and by the way the funniest see infamy as a form of music journalist in this one is when they have the launch of their album in the United States is some record store and nobody shows up and the. Fix will this go and kick kick kick my ass now going no no that's my focus. No no no no come on no it's money. Because that really is how the music industry was full of the artists they are the gods and somebody lower down the food chain is completely responsible for the Mall of the world. And. This c.b.c. 5 times told her 8th this is morning reports and fog and have a top story this morning the government wants to put its brakes that deal to the Commons today speak of. John Bercow could decide to block a vote on the basis the same question shouldn't be debated twice in a single parliamentary session or political correspondents Jonathan Blake the expectation among opposition parties and others at Westminster is that the speaker of the House of Commons John Bercow will not allow the government to have its way and give M.P.'s another straight yes or no vote on Boris Johnson's Bracks it deal but on the basis that it's in the past John Bercow has said you can't just keep asking M.P.'s the same question over and over again until you get the answer that you want and also that an approval of the deal would override Saturday's decision by M.P.'s to withhold their rubber stamp if you like for Boris Johnson's deal until the legislation implementing it had gone through the House of Commons we expect he will decide that vote car go ahead not a massive body blow for Boris Johnson doesn't really change his strategy but what it would have done if M.P.'s had approve the deal at this point would have given him some momentum but he's he's not getting a chance but looks that way certainly at the moment elsewhere judges are expected to decide later whether the unsigned letter sent by Boris Johnson asking the for breaks that extension puts the pm in contempt of court hearing at the Court of Session in Edinburgh is due to resume later this morning. The storm into assembly meets today for the 1st time since January 27th seemed to debate changes to abortion laws in Northern Ireland the temporary calls in response to legislation passed by Westminster 3 months ago it will see abortion decriminalized in Northern Ireland unless the devolved governments restored by midnight same sex marriage is also due to be legalised the B.B.C.'s Northern Ireland health correspondence Mary Louise Conley after almost 3 years of the storm and assembly being die.

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