Our Oh he was caught or something like that and a special report still to come posse of Ginger Baker as well I'm sure a rock fans were totally were sad to hear a lot yesterday and Martin's comment and I should regale you with today's clue which we've been compromised on too quickly that when I sat down today I thought right I'm back I'm going to make it particularly difficult but as is so often the case you lot all the ideas so Declan put up can help it here that can put up for little money pictures of your mana op car Fredrickson played by at us now who was on this program but 2 months ago then he put up a black number 8 ball for potable Then he put up a bed that looks like somebody had a bad night and then he put up a fancy oil pin. Yeah a little different on the clue was did you hear that moment and Feeney. Nobody got the Chloe bunch of all got it right. And easy says Connor. Easy update on the messy bed from the delicate he says what do I want really means Bill and I. No Country for Old man says Joe mop stroke country not right and then shove on pitches and like she'd written the darn question so of all Harken a part you're not well today well don't come to the detail of your brilliant analysis text in our 3 o'clock pick up the phone folks David has taken your calls today also 301231 double 01 on Facebook is always more polished and show. The Mark Paterson show you your new you get in touch on social media 301 t. For a long time. Folks I think you know when other were slow to blow our own trumpet but an age when media is changing so very very rapidly this will March on a modest particularly for us in this part of the world and for a project this was also this particular building radio for success this is the Irish music radio awards if you like the the Oscars of Irish radio were held in Kilkenny again on Friday evening so just to put it in a broader context the entire radio and the street on the island of our own thoughts or t.v. B.b.c. Commercial big commercial small commercial talk radio everything they get together every year for the annual sermon and look we walked away with a record a whole week of 5 goals we got a silver We got a proud bronze I'll have the detail of that I know he's 2nd 1st so sometimes. You're in touch to say what was it a bite well. Snippet from this shows and train it was the day that we decided as a team to try and complete the route that was originally proposed for the civil rights March in the city back in 60. I'll tell you about the 2nd but even to much of the people have complex political views that I know it was a kind of a bygone or taken on air and certainly off but this was the very day 50 years on from the day the start of the troubles every single victim as get different v's different I mean some people would like to see every Republican hanging from one post some people like to see everybody. Would like to see that there is no sad thing that everybody would agree on this is how we deal with that we would love to do it but I think there comes a point we have to say to ourselves we have read so far we have had a terrible conflict there was an awful lot of things done but it's over and let's make sure it never happens again James just on facts on the to one of some final thoughts with creditors well. I think there was a lot of things that happened doesn't have to happen you know but that's 2020 vision it's very easy to sit here know 50 years on and say Well this shouldn't happen I'm not sure what happened. You know there's too much a lot there's too much what about us I mean what we need to do know is draw lane and start you know start we and I don't. Totally sick but you see this forgiveness until we must forgive the people who are on the team just put his arm around him and I don't believe that you know what I would like to do. And for them to understand me and where I came from you know remained still most normal . You know was part of the at the moment was when else was killed. You know I was informed that a few more times and that made my main problem much I'm going to get them. You know even the score here you know that's 50 years ago 50 years ago John he might have been right or true your. Way But Mark that's what I think. I mean look we can talk about progress. I think the question we have to. Do you regret it yes there were things that happened that shouldn't have happened and things that I was given the choice doing and being as informed as I am they would not have happened I think is what that we heard from that what can we walk to we passed forward what can we change what do we learn from this experience to ensure that our children our grandchildren are going to have to go through the same thing you have and I think part of that is yes we are starting to a drastic quality we haven't addressed equality but I think as Mary said look I want to talk I want to talk that's the way to do it f. Talk and could have changed. There was a boy that was well in the lane to the experiences of the majority in the study in 1968 we would not have gone through what we have to go through. Some of the protagonists and former people who were involved in a particular program had heard of the program as well from victims for a very interesting day and I want this conversation to certainly draw the curtain terms of what happened behind the scenes that are unable to protect our program I'm delighted to be joined by the boss is here the editor of Radio 4. That's not an abominable one it's support the importance of being a part of a community and and helping to tell a committee story absolutely. First of all congratulations to shelf. Local space broadcaster of the year. And the story that they were faced with as you said on a candidate of a. Ated and a divided place tell the story of the 4th of October 968 which was widely seen by historians by most historians as the day if you could pun point a day when the trouble started that it started on that they and this and so we were faced with the the challenge of looking at it who would tell that story and it's contemporary relevance and I remember when you walked into my office and said I have an idea. We're going to we're going to retrace the steps. Of where that March would have gone how did been allowed to be completed with the idea is could we have done things differently in real time yeah thank you Kate and I thought how did I let Mark die in gently here and. I thought I know our engineer believe him. As he can he can be quite frank at times and I thought the editorial or they create of like they could a idea creatively but technically I didn't think about possible. But actually whenever you went to Scott Roeder 1st we should name check Scott Rolen 1st we have to be great engineers here Scott all are furred and will race he unable us to do what it is that we do and their incredible can hardly retired after 50 I was out there after a long paper day on the job can a tired we're very lucky to have Scott and will know in place. A day when Scott said no chance yeah yeah and then a cup of glee of Scott the challenge. And. We did we did tell the story and I think you could pay no better tribute than the say that I think we did the you know we did the justice of the significance of that day it was a difficult thing the day we told it in a way that is obviously gauge their peers when they've given you this award for speech broadcast every year and we told it in a way where we didn't pull any punches and there were difficulties that were talked the boy Imma try to do it in a way that would have a contemporary relevance that wasn't just about looking at what happened 50 years ago but actually telling us what it tells us about where we are noisy and many of many of our guests of the day Laura were Petaca must really you know there's been a lot of needle but they chose to walk with us and it was just an amazing thing and when the verdict came to the victims of the larger for really the thing about Scott because it's something we don't often talk about and the b.b.c. Were lucky to have trained people and this business on Newsnight. Strictly on a small stations like us Scott physically carried a full studio on one shot across one shoulder and I had to fall back positions case we lost the signal on the other and he walked all the way from the waterside train station over the bridge up into the walled city hanging around here hanging around their technical issues here there and everywhere and dying to the Guildhall just quite something Thankee to be the contributors as you say there were hard truths there were people who were saying things that they kept stored up for for 50 years for a long time he told his hard triggers with a view to try and they help us look at what would they do with those issues in a contemporary sense thank you to your team again and it was a fait a good rowing that to get round the city on that day and as you say protect weld on the you for coming up with the and crew and the engineers for a lawyer and I was to do that technically something that was that was very very difficult. It's a really prestigious lest we must say there was a we're not the biggest station and and these awards were not the biggest ational by far I was delighted for. Eric Eric I think is one of the best sports broadcasters about the place on for Eric to get the big one as well I think there's not a person in the building what not just a holler I started that when I read it on the sofa at home. When I was Mommy something by the way. It's my job as opposed to simply people like Eric and talk them about their ambitions and their careers and try to try to develop people and I've stated they are in the past that he could do whatever he wants the time that he has in terms of sports broadcast and so absolutely richly very richly deserved reward he says he's you know getting up in the middle of night to come on here and there's work early mornings to bring people or sports news he's traveling around the country rainy wept nights and away games and an old drive and run the place never never a whimper always always up and you could throw Eric in a lane you know when you're on air so you never quite know what anybody's going to say you can throw Erik and I think he can turn it around so the notes are brilliantly does we multi-colored know it's the way things are laces a conversation I guess people behind the curtain if you like are x. Notes you know it's just it's like an old professional the notes read what's here believe it's black but it's all akin to the passion for sport is there but as you say also written the research the research that Eric Volz ahead of his football commentaries in particular and 2nd that on an obviously he said this recognition but he's also had recognition from his colleagues in radio also because he's getting some of those by games in Germany played Northern Ireland he was a commentator on b.b.c. Radio will stay there recently so as his talents are being recognized far and wide to know what I love with the smaller I mean the front door and like there's a station parent if you like she had these 5 of these lines up like ornaments like so that every dollar any lesson I can buy whatever just pop in and say they're going to say they'd want to see that on the post mom was there and he could just lovely out sense of you know and other places. There's a more of a division of labor I suppose people do their jobs and they just do their jobs. Because of the the size of this place and because of. Because of the number of people who are here the size of this place but also the impression of what we have when we all rode together we all have to go in the same direction our ways it just doesn't work so an award for one of us is an award for all of us stop and we like Laura gold as well in the news story there was nothing to celebrate about that story Lori is still chose us to the bone journalists especially with unusual stars full of young people on the of course it was a tragic story it was an awful absolutely awful story. We have had messages from people close they are Mickey had to tell us that their pride at their local station. Managed to cover the story and cover it so well that the story had to be told. We are. Recognizing the hard work the success of of our newsroom when you're working in unusual. Inevitably work with tragic and tragic circumstances and really difficult stories. Like I said about Erik you were talking about people here who they. Really feel that fail at give give their heart and soul. For the job who are getting up in the middle of night all all kinds of conditions the command here not knowing what they're going to have us not like for the networks Laurie where you know you wake up alone in your stories a month just we live here yeah we live for you know our doors open up on to the committee like nobody else has their work and their work on a. Small errors at times they're getting up very early in the morning and they're very heavily scrutinized and rightly so they put a foot wrong you know the audience will be beyond that you have to be completely you know accurate and you have to be sensitive and you have to get it right and there's a so there's there's $33.00 gold awards for for the Newsroom I'm immensely proud of them immensely proud of the hard work that they put on. Jill door and those sterling were. Because the assistant editor who runs the newsroom. Elaine McGee also got a bronze for speech broadcaster news broadcaster of the year. Our colleague in b.b.c. Radio will stir Karen Paterson one gold and sympathetic and then in the same category there are really hard work and town to point to journalists are bloody Sunday the soldiers charges that we covered that got another goal or a that that kept lining up and when we got a sober bill with a program going to our our we program got a silver and that was again weld on the air tame you were on holidays at them on the way I'm stood on as your presenter that they your regular team here Brian David Declan those people are were going there again and credibly hard working people people who are really trying get a sense of the community that they're working for and get bring them the stories that they care about. Ads are come and go This is a fickle business that changes every day you know without you know the changing face of the media but look at the day to say that this is a photo confidence and what we do here we like to think that we leave our politics at the door our prejudice and all the rest to try our level best 100 percent of the time Lori just moving forward as our monitor. A signature night on Friday but it's yesterday's news and you know that on moving forward it's a vote of confidence but there's much to be done absolutely I would like to just be for a day wrap up say that it was a great night for for the b.b.c. It's a spectacular event it's gutsy it's glamorous you know the great and good of Radio Radio Sport a radio as through even in this country radio it's such the national character I think as a medium the storytelling and the imagination that's involved in radio so it's an increase incredible event it's brilliant for us to be to be up there picking up a large. And credible competition b.b.c. It was a great night for b.b. . Northern Ireland Seamus McKee entered the hall of fame Karen punished as I mentioned golden news broadcaster take on Harvey for news reporter join tool for his magazine program also going to gold rush McLean's celebration of 50 years of Astral Weeks also going to gold the blame game go to gold it was incredible night for b.b.c. Northern Ireland you talked about what we do the there has been a lot of support and terms of investment and the physical infrastructure here were set in and they needed a. Renovated visualized studios with the most cutting edge technology so I think our colleagues and the rest of the b.b.c. In b.b.c. Northern Ireland for the support they've given us over the years. Thank you to our contributors they Mazen people who bring us or stories about you know there's a movie or stories Mark or coming on through your Facebook page and coming through your audience the connection you have your audience this is this is this is for them as much as it as it's for us. This is a an amazing patch people are great storytellers there are so so much rich raw material for us to draw to draw on the sense of ownership that the people out there have of this radio station if we do put a foot wrong we know it because they care about it and they feel like they own this station as they should because they do they pay our wages so it really as a thank you to them because without them it's nothing and I mean anything by thanks a lot. Like you folks. So you go by. Radio for those monitoring at our local Manas Well it's not always a local person that's the monitor here during the years but for a local person especially to lead us to those accolades is good and that. I thank you Bill I put it up. It was a Friday night about it and thank you some of what words come back for you for. For this we go through a set of headphones with a real solid. You get when i thought into the darkness I got some in the head with it why would I want to have some of the. Brookside who has trouble. What. That you know there you go. Right the time is 22 minutes past opportunity no. But it was the visitors who. Lost 102020 group c. Qualifier saw Northern Ireland beaten at home by Germany Michael a newsman recover their initial momentum for the trip to join us live coverage in sports on the international the Netherlands against. The night 7 30 pm b.b.c. Radio b.b.c. Sons folks I've made a wee special documentary package about the Donna gall. It's well worth a listen but look we're not going to do a time justified today so believe me we'll have it on after 2 o'clock tomorrow still to come Mark Bradley with his movie review so it wasn't overwhelmed by Joker but lots of Martin's thoughts not. Look rock fans music fans Ginger Baker one of the most innovative and fun soul drummers of all time Basic has died he was 80 year old a coal finder of Crane a Also player but blind faith Hawk wind f l a kitty was a long varied career. That he drummed like animal item up with snow with a head dying on the head you know the hair flailing around the place and I his style combined the lyricism of us the experts tell us with the crude part of rock a critic watched them and said it was like what I sing a human a combine harvester it was also temperamental was the bartender Now argument that a kind of a fellow behavior often led to punch ups on the stage famously he once attended to and one of cream bassist Jack Bruce is solos by a bunch to step off the stair drum and to Bruce's Naga and i Tunes Of Records death will see him featured as one of Iraq's most influential musicians but he scoffed at that kind of thing and system drummers are really nothing more than time keepers. I told brother magazine it's a drummer's job to make the other guy he's sorry. So we treat for your music Chuck Bruce Eric Clapton and Ginger Baker scream classic Sunshine of Your Love. Her. Often. Attempted by cover bands never approved of when obviously Ginger Becker has died just as our reach would be today that's cream on Sunshine of Your Love and of course on vocals and guitar I don't know much about rock want to rock. But respects but do you when you're them when you're the girl that age you know the brother of an undertone what was up not can all this with rock because I was a model we hated rockers. So they were funk rockers punk rock suppose so Jonah was a farmer ground March to crown a smart probably foxes are out of the movie Martin you're going to cause an element of controversy I would have thought on this program today I'll get to that when it comes to your joke or listen shall we did 1st with Judy if you're going to try and bring the legend of the lift as you to guard the screen by goodness you better make a job of it. Better make a job of it yes and they do a reasonable job on this. Please Judy Garland in the last year basically of her life she was practically bankrupt in America. Got an offer of a publisher I'm sure Iran and. I better Del phones came to love left the children with her former husband came there. And. Well can I say better the reports the time where that the she was heavily and to you know drugs from a youth because the studios when she started. Your own eyes star yes they may be mayor in particular kept are the women that are it she was too fat they said she did this she was given drugs you know uppers and downers and they oppose. She had no childhood really and eventually this led to her be in the wreck of a parish and she was at the end of her life so this is 60 at this he may have been 60 autumn of her years yet to come of them all but getting come out of the place selves right time after time sales are based on her name gotcha thought things go Slater all because I was because she is we have a addicted and our voices go and. Some of the performances are not exactly what you would expect you know one of the things about Judy Garland is that she's referring to as being a good. And fact she died in 1969 stone wall riots took part in 1908 at the same time as her funeral and this mythology is built up that as a response to her death and her funeral the the riots occurred and the director here has bought into this and that he has invented a scene where Judy Garland after one of her shows because I'd say to the stage door and there's only 2 people there you know I did there were crowds at the start as they only tell you on this as this gay couple. With a clip here which she talks to. As you can see. Times last back to you now. Ally. In 64. Taken together. Otherwise engaged 6. And changed since we didn't do anything after all the hand people. And people use to fight. I can't and. I don't that's seen as evil I think it was invented but those 2 men play a very important part of the very end of the film when it tries to end on a sort of a high note. The problem I have with us as that. Are self really she looks around or she doesn't really even you know federal she did know him a little bit or at times you would look and say but I've been watching ready for years and I do like her as an actress but I think she has and I always look for as she is this rather a poacher she does with her might you know it's very hard to explain I just read that as well as she is and she's a thing with her socks on a lemon that's near enough. And she does that and she does that which is in this character and I was watch and when I actually went back to old newsreels of Judy Garland over the weekend just to see here and. When you see a then you know know. People very well I know that I know that I was the light of the great numbers either a good man. Really Zellweger is not that brilliant a singer but she sings during this but the point is that you don't just have to sing brilliantly you know that's the thing gotcha because Judy Garland's voice was gone at that time right and that at that year the eighty's they did do it again it was a tiny woman right so every now and Mark I give it a 7 or 10 meter when you go back you know you wouldn't know right lesson one by 10 or world Martin I don't understand nor do I want to understand I know the Joker jokes are and always got Sometimes he's got lipstick on like a goddess my like a Klein. I know he was in public. Right Joker is art this centers and I read this around an origin of the iconic arch nemesis on his on a Reginald stand alone story not seen before the big screen top full of exploration of Arthur Fleck message Yorkers and he took it as he called Arthur flack Joker's called Arthur if they don't these advances are the. Ok Artie was our egg. Is my arbor among disregarded by society as not only a character study but also a broader cautionary tale I can say the countless on what she can paint the Joker quite literally Martin that's just thought but money safe I do think that I will never warm techno take us into this world well this time it's not I feel like it's the comic book and stated what the stillness the director is taught Philip's amounted to have no real regard for he drank the things like The Hangover and old school you know and what he's attempted to do here night but it brought in the script writer he give it a an edge a set this and what I was. Early 1980 s. New York NY Gotham City is New York Ok yes so I time when things are very rough Kramer's rampant there's a. Garbage collectors strike gone and we have the Arthur flecked character so it's for the places my get the presuming and right and you know it is don't. Phillips as a big fan of Martin Scorsese and every time when I was watching this fellow to think her own thing in my head is obviously watched again taxi driver and he's watched a king of comedy. Mash the 2 of them together and come up with this story of Arthur flick who becomes the joker at the beginning of the film as. It was to be a standup comedian is working for this group you know they hire a kludge for certain but I'm sure the somebody on form is me why does this person look as he just twisted an unbutton or you know white as a person become the judge no because as far as this fellow goes on you realize that he's been you know there's a similar theme runs through that the Judy Garland fellow in this film it's abused as a child and the effect that it has on you right when you're an adult I'm just a joker have parse No What is it you are doing it kills people all right. I'm Laughs I'm Jackie Jack but then it was called Arthur flack and I was Jack Nicholson I thought the Joker because Jack may appear once in a Arthur flight and you have to go buy comics one of the graphic novels The Killing Joke and then he's legit and it was late and I think that to me Heath Ledger's was a better than this was a better Joker Markel no forgiveness secular we want to know he was not gonna look Skywalker to the animated version jarred little who didn't walk in clinics does this well you know what is it about you know these arts caliber actors Martin as just that they that the campus is so broad but I do I wonder does you do you actually can do what you want with this and what they've done in this film as they've looked at them not as a ship not as a super villain or anything but as a parent has been modeled treated when he was young at a very hard upbringing and but as his descent into madness and what are the violence the. How did you make the the violent Well there were 2 scenes One couple of people were shot no it wasn't that. There's another scene where he does kill a man. And it's brutal right but in the context of has descended into this form of madness even see where the follow makers comment for this concert it was said was not at a distance or don't know if it's a fellow American or you can watch it what are the couple he picked Well what we've done a very hard to get a clip for this and I scared I was through the whole trailer and justice but where he as been is being given consul and because of the complex in the city the consulate has been cut and this is how talking to you has consular. The last time we'll be meeting. With him he. Has asked the same question. Are you having a negative. So there's the character only has negative thoughts was walking Fenix the boy in the white. And white posh clothes and Gladiator it was he was the Emperor coming home. I've never forgiven him for that I was I was cardboard performance does it does he does it when here Martin well is very very physical in this whacking Phoenix is somebody that I think. Personally obviously but the last number of things these bays been on is becoming weirder and weirder right and this one you know a really goes to turn on in a most of went on a such a crash diet is skeletal and form. Yes and he has this thing there's one thing about the hang of it the fun just being to say Todd Phillips as a director this is a change for him and I don't think he trusted himself in this film because there's one sequence in the film it's a sort of a long running thing and I'm not raise whatever leave others I'm not going to spoil it and when the revelation comes. He nearly stops the Fullam and they go back and on ties to show he this is what you messed boom when this was happening in mediately because the performances the performances very good in this big you recognize what has happened. But he didn't trust us or himself. You know right now you've also got Robert De Niro one of the critics lot of us you didn't build a love love love it. You know I didn't fall in love with it no I don't say this is something I've never seen before in a Broadway Art know at a time seen a lot like it before 17 that it has sat on 7 as a lot of people the agreement up are there you go I think Heath Ledger was better a couple of back in fact here Bob Kane and writer both figure created the Joker Joker. I mean 80 years ago in the market marvel that had trotted about this face a star and he said you can't have Comics 27 I didn't d.c. 7 for Detective Comics and I 1st appeared Joker and 9 $139.00 and then I started a war which it. Turns savants for goodness sake Martin and those circumstances we may well may we direct the traffic therefore to Martin Brodeur classic Yes So spell the picture at Martin what they are protected Ok released in 1967. Based on a not well regarded book. He finds himself in difficult circumstances. Where he wrote the police. They discover that it's not just. Somebody that they would disregard this is. Philadelphia. To give any more than this it turns out to be a police detective. Highly regarded. Murder has been committed and. The police are not just. The man who was murdered was an industrialist. People. Of. My guest. Is a ball is a bad. Wall from. The thing on the play we had was Martin did you hear moment and feigning. Right so I get to. I don't get the Ok. Are you thinking of a different player. Which is the. Ball and ball. The book. A bad. Restless bad. Virgil's and add the. Character and the foam was virginal Ted's not our classic movie of all time in the heat of the night. Mark just to give a hillock I did hear the shots moment they say there's a sloppy mess for a white protagonist slops the black police officer verge on the police officer reporting some back immediately and they said at the time that the slop reverberated around the ward Ok if you did you hear that a lot of any kind of any We're. Going to employ thought of a problem but that was that was a brilliant scene in the snow we have a week of not the same characters so. The Virtual to Sydney party as arrested they suddenly realise it's a place money's not just not from here before it before go there the classic film is in the heat of the night the clip here Declan says they call me Mr Tibbs that is a different movie is not no it's not that lane is used Oh the fellow I thought it was another fellow No no no no because we couldn't use it because there's a certain word on the show you can't use and so basically Rod Steiger who plays the police chief in Sandy humbug blah blah blah blah so what are they call you in Philadelphia he says they call me Mr. Let's have a duck still have a play the clip. You wouldn't want to miss shot expert. And you get to look at a lot of dead bodies don't you. Well. I don't want well you know I just thought maybe you. Maybe would learn technically this well. No thanks. Why not because I've got a train to catch wait a minute I'm trying to leave at 12 o'clock noon but they brainwashed in $62.39 a week to talk about it's why did you look at my character I'm not going to fire you because I'm not an expert. There's the admission but he wouldn't admit that to a black person who loved the not nor has the advantage here because he knows he's out of his depth but you can see this from your mind's eye he saw worse a loss absolutely brilliant on a narrow stake or won an Oscar for this you know the phone itself the best picture Oscar All right and a bit Bonnie and Clyde and the graduate to all their classics to Oscar to say Oscar No Country for Old Man sorry Joe McCarthy Les and Sean Harken and they call me Mr Ted she said at her she gets into the harder part and then she just drops the absolute ball my aunt comes to the thing he did and I had to Virgil tabs they call Mr Jones all of a Ed Asner paired with a party I played Virgil both based on books by John Ball How do people know this how did you go in 20 minutes Martin the Internet have to do he just put a ball up kind of a ball akin to baseball could get all was the writer Well if she got Virgil At most this she was of course lot of films good and I don't or. She pops up she got a lovely cup of tea with a program Ugh well comfort yourself she says and the knowledge that you have cheered up one second later Get Well Soon she will pardon finally in your estimation why as a classic as a classic because it came at a time when America was in turmoil or restraints all over the place. And they stuck to their guns and making this film and surely not somebody like Sidney Poitier was worth the part that he played in this film and that the idea of keeping the slop in it even one of the sure and Southern cinemas. Like big moment that was a major moment and looked fantastic and had a new documentary I think it was the 1st I mean what's in it 1st him I saw and I think I saw one of the I think it is the 1st time and sort of has just a block of assault or why partly Oh absolutely I was of course top and it was a question and it was an immediate response he didn't hesitate you cannot but it was all right Martin thank you very much Martin San look when it comes to Joker it's a bit of a nerd but I know many of you d.c. People marvel types and you know d.c. Mark most definitely didn't see him stuff cartoons and comics and I 7 out of 10 so smart for Joker Judy 7 out of 10 honest classic this week as a classic favor starts imagination in the heat of the night the 1967 Classic with the magnificent 78 plot a raid charmless sang about that you just heard in the heat of the night composed by Quincy Jones written by Marlon Allen Bergman Good to see classic written all over it Martin broadly as are. The movies and listen from the movie theater to real life right there today extinction rebellion the extension rebellion art of us are protests in cities all over the world Berlin London Dublin loads of other places organizers a plan to shut down key sites in places like central London and addition to demonstrating outside government departments extinction rebellion say the protests in the capital will be 5 times bigger than a summer events past the protesters are calling for urgent action on global climate and wildlife emergencies and complex natures Well Clare's with Macare Thompson as an environmental activist with extinction rebellion dairy donate all of the community journalist James Cracknell a difference of cracking up over the canoe as life with us and London gems that may come 1st to life there's all sorts of coverage I'm looking from colleagues across the board in terms of network b.b.c. About arrests and a sense of unease or on the protests what do you want to sing with it with your ice jams and good afternoon to you. Good afternoon. It doesn't it doesn't seem like that on the grounds from what I've seen it seems quite relaxed the police are definitely here there are police vans what you would expect that mostly civil watching on I did see one person get arrested but it was it just seems to be like this or taking individual people to arrests rather than sort of sweeping in with mass arrests at the moment I guess is advance we're still James the b.b.c. Reporting that over 130 s. Been arrested Does that surprise you. A little bit given that given that these protests have been going on since or storm this morning. I can imagine there might be that many you know well and I know I know it's a given that this is about 7 different locations for this process it's not just one point in London the 7 different locations it's quite spread out in the sense of what you can tell any time you walk in Central a mother's a big print on I was our firm when I was one of the Bracks it seems you can almost taste that in the air Can't you and to varying degrees what you mean so if you know you can feel it that when there's when there's you know a big issue there breakfast for me in climate yet the air in London has as charged . Yeah well I mean I guess if he's talking about drugs it definitely but our I think with climate change people feel that you know so fed up they feel that you know they that they're doing all these protests and then the government is sort of trying to make it sound like they're doing the right thing in that you know that we're talking the talk they're not walking the walk but you know they haven't pencil aviation airports function they haven't pencil fracking So I think people are just sort of it set up with the rhetorical looking for more action from the government and remarkable Cyril paired so often these days by young people teenagers clerical friend who could obvious should have had their. A signature day for those and your colleagues in the extinction rebellion I think the public watches us or maybe not in your groups for example Claire and go right Ok how do they carry themselves how do the be here do they wreck the place 130 arrests is what the headline you were looking for today are happy with today yes absolutely and you get no rest it is one of the strategies of extinction rebellion I'm clocking up the system if you like in causing disruption and so it was to be expected and was definitely factored in I'll be heading to Dublin tomorrow to join in with the protests down there. Is widespread disruption but one of our fundamental principles is nonviolent. Civil disobedience and taking direct action but definitely very peaceful so disruptions Ok yes rushing home to see your mom and you're caught up with your colleagues at the works maybe a 6 foot the point being you don't worry about losing potential allies or friends or those who wish you well people going there wrecking the place they're holding the whole city to ransom here isn't losing friends and. Possibly some but ultimately. Slate There are a huge numbers of us that have been campaigning away on the subject of climate change and biodiversity loss 3040 yes a lot of click to visit them a lot of e-mail a lot of us like our visit I am honestly love side next a lot. And whilst it's hard to you know some sort of. Small some directions ultimately it's really not that much in your rush of your plea to see I believe your relative I'm putting on the most but I was the one day of your life that your encounter with extension of I didn't cause you to miss your plea and of course the 500 quid shit is a more proper Who doesn't want to plan out as what I'm sending you doesn't want things to be better we know that we're in a serious situation here it's not happening and you know we've got huge companies and the government who you know line their pockets basically bad but these companies don't make life difficult and we make life difficult for commuter classes and this is a global Yeah well point is that there's actually nothing more disrupting than severe famine or runaway temperatures or disagrees on the ramp again hardly anybody will disagree with but why not why not bring your roff upon the perpetrator as you might describe them and not the punter. Well a lot of it is aimed a lot of the Dublin protest is going to be aimed at Destry. And all the sectors very much so so will be based in Merrion Square and there will be groups going out from there specifically targeting industry and government places but the disruption of the business is used as usual how's an impact on the economy in the power said to us which is just. Then on the out the capital cities and ultimately if there's enough disruption the I Am is to bring them to the title to get the government to talk to us and get some real proper movement on the speakers it's just not happening does that echo with you James any of that in terms of why this is Ponting out and in London where you're stood what I have fears of extinction rebellions are protesting cities around the world 130 arrested and in London extension of I guess a protest the couple of the 5 times bigger than events in April does that all chime with what you're witnessing James Cracknell. I don't know Vince boys times bigger I was there I was there in one throw as well. I think what's what's maybe different this time is that more people know about it and more people are sort of thinking oh yeah maybe I'll get involved they've already seen it in the news already what's different slightly different this time they've gone for a more locations so nice Parliament Square that is why you who Downing Street Bridge Westminster Bridge so it's more kind of spread out the Department of Transport as well which is where I'm stood at the moment there's a blockade that blocking the junction now. So yeah I think I think that all right well you know don't the longer this goes on the more people are saying and thinking they want to get involved James also tells a female bus fares good people full of energy police broadly respectful obviously if they're all the 30 arrests it's going to be all over the telly tonight and I suppose you're up against well I suppose you face those issues all the time trying to make your point yes yes absolutely we are we are aiming for a rest so far the guards have been reluctant to arrest any Irish reposts. Taken you know with demonstrations and protests that have taken place so far but we're hoping not change the so much Listen thank you for joining us certainly going to be the minister in the networks tonight with her take on a tear Thompson local woman and her Much luck to all of us with extinction about. And Barry done it all on a say the community journalist over the long run there James Cracknell folks finally today on this very day it Team 49 about making a mark on the world the people are still talking about you all these days and years later on this very day it in 49 Edgar Allan Poe The American writer port critic died easily 40 so this was dark and I did well this being the spectacular month of October. Magnificent historian on our longstanding call I can McCormack is here Ken up was for you well that's friends like me after a knighthood but anyway. 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Story in deed a storyteller can McCormack folks just say Sean Coyle a setting done for his 1st show back on without will delay many many of you what's happening as we speak I want to leave you with a little stands or 2 from the riven. By poll b. That word our sign of parting bird Our friend I shrieked up starting get the back into the tempest on the night spew Tony and shore leave no black plume as a token of the lie by so will have spoken leave my loneliness unbroken quit the ball stop both my door take a break from Art my heart and take life form from off my door quoth the Raven Nevermore. So. 93 point. 790 media b.b.c. Radio. B.b.c. Radio 4 news at 3 o'clock Whisenant Kelly jurors in the trial of a man who denies murdering his former partners 3 year old son has been told that the defendant only became a suspect in the child's death following preliminary post-mortem findings they Morsi who's 25 and from the gardens denies murdering Kate McGuinness in a flat to calm cold court in the Bogside area of the city between September 16th and 17th 2017 the defendant also denies 2 charges of child cruelty and one charge of failing to protect a child on the 10th day of the murder trial the jurors were read transcripts of statements the defendant made to the police after the child's body was fine by him the trial continues. A kind man has appeared in court charged with attempted murder after a stabbing incident in Coleraine at the weekend Carsley morrow who's $28.00 and from Woodburn present in the timing is also charged with assault on police and common assault he's further charged with Harshman of the same woman between August 28th Tina and Oct 29th. Boris Johnson and an American business woman with whom he worked while he was married London have both refused to comment on allegations that they had an affair Jennifer are Curry appeared on t.v. Today saying that he'd given her no preferential treatment and they were just friends her company received thousands of pounds of public money and she joined trade missions while he was in office Mr Johnson denies any wrongdoing our chief political correspondent Vicky Young says Mr Curry's comments today could be problematic she did also about whether they had a sexual relationship or not but in some ways maybe that doesn't matter because she did admit that they were very good friends and if you look at the terms of the code of conduct. That's being investigated it is all about declaring interest so it could still be a problem for Boris Johnson In other news Boris Johnson has urged the White Tice to reconsider giving immunity to diplomats wife he left the u.k. While being a suspect in a fatal crash he's wanted for questioning after a car had a motorbike killing its writer 19 year old Hari done in Northampton in August this year and Harry quite has the support Noraid said a defender Jamal Lewis has been ruled out of Northern Ireland 2020 qualifier in Rotterdam on Thursday against the Netherlands with a knee injury world rugby says a robust contingency plan is in place should typhoon presently developing off the size coast of Japan threaten Arlen's final pull a game against some more on Saturday Meanwhile Jordi Murphy will return to training on Thursday after being forced off with a rib injury jury in the win over Russia and and darts star all gurney is in action at the World Grand Prix in Dublin tonight he takes on Monday in the 1st draw and the tally only managed on stage at around $915.00 Thanks Erica and the weather this afternoon will be windy with soem sunny spells and share some of the showers could be heavy.