And how they react to situations players get is anyone going to fact. He's a huge huge talent he she keeps working as hard as he does every day 20 years is one of the best midfielders in the Sound life to free sounds out the music radio it's called costs. Good morning on Am and f.m. Are in the u.k. On digital and online I'm rod shop where. It was in August that the British government announced the freedom of movement between the e.u. Countries and the u.k. Will end the major play on October the start if the event but no deal Brecht's home secretary pretty Patel subsequently wrote back home as saying that migrants from the e.u. Who have not previously gained permanent residence will be given 3 years temporary leave to remain in Britain the fate of non citizens on both sides of the possibly reinstated border restrictions continue to depress puzzled and in some cases they are being driven to take drastic measures. And that is where we start with measures being taken by some British expatriates and the Netherlands where importantly it's not possible to hold your nationality at least for many people I've been speaking to our correspondent in The Hague on a whole again and she's been telling me just how easy it is for a Briton living in the Netherlands to take Dutch nationality Well that depends on who you are basically for the. British nationals living in the not in the. And some of them meet this really tight cry seriously they've lived in the Netherlands for more than 15 years they're married to a citizen and that kind of thing but if you don't tick the boxes then you have to pass an integration exam and that doesn't mean learning how to cycle with a dog and a baby on your bike it means in the language learning about the culture and all that kind of thing but sizes of people are doing it because exactly as you say they're trying to take a kind of preemptive protective measure that they think will basically allow them to continue living their lives their living here in the Netherlands even if the u.k. Leaves the e.u. With our studio on the 31st of October or whenever they just want their lives to continue the way they are today and in order to do that they are having to sacrifice their British nationality which is obviously a huge deal giving up your British passport because the Dutch. Or they don't allow you to have. For most people. And so you're forced to choose and it's a huge issue for Brits here in the Netherlands who are facing this kind of conundrum and so I asked a group on Facebook you know how do you deal with this and the wrist so many responses so we decided to go and meet some of these Brits in the Netherlands who are grappling with this breaks it Deila the 1st one is Anna walks she's a mom of 2 an astrophysicist originally from Leeds and they were living in tract which is in the heart of the Netherlands and she told me about her family situation right so I had such high school and I wanted us passport when I relinquished my British citizenship I had to send my possible off and it doesn't come back the girls have to have Dutch passports and British passport as well because they're under 18 they're not able to relinquish the British citizenship so the Dutch government doesn't ask it and Jason still has a purposeful It felt a little ways of them I thought it would hit the button to say yes I want to relinquish my system ship I didn't think it would affect me thought because I was so fed up with the whole thing it was in part just and emotional response to the referendum and I feel 100 percent European and it was really is this is what Britain wants that I am not I'm not British anymore because I've got you know it's all over in Europe whatsoever in Europe and this is where I belong I also thought it was a principal thing you know this is where our jobs are you know much our children were born here this is where they've lived all their lives and I wanted to protect their rights and my rights to be here as well so the combination about the possible was never what define me as a British person I'm always going to you know I'm always going to take milk you might say yeah I still have some some integration to do but it's so wonderfully welcoming country and you know is that it's a positive decision because I'm very touched by what she says about pushing the button but I think that would be incredibly difficult for most people you know given that we've got people expatriates living in all parts of the world listening to us right now and if they think about it it would be really hard for them to I would imagine to you I think it's so you actually think about your attachment to this symbol. Burgundy Marie document you never really actually confront that kind of emotional attachment that it holds and you know that the thing that you're coming through is you pour just like the actually goes right to the heart and I'm speaking as a Brit in the Netherlands of who you are and the idea of giving up your British nys is really difficult even if you feel as though that's what you need to do to be in the same place as your family or keep the job that you have but. Most people who I've spoken to are torn a really torn about this because they don't want to stop a British they just want to keep living in the Netherlands So anyway I met someone called Jack who works for a very well known Anglo Dutch Corporation and he is one of the Northern. And China I think there's there's the cheese firm there's the yes yes there are a few anyway so he were up for this from and. He has this kind of emotional barrier that he's really struggling to guess over so for me changing my passport is a last resort on the one hand a passport is just a document which entitle you to live and work and travel in certain places but on the other hand there's a big emotional connection giving up my passport and my British citizenship is a significant sacrifice my family has been British for as long as. As long as I've been able to trace back I'm very proud Brit my home my my friends are here now and I have a great job and I don't want to be in a position where my employer can say Ok thank you for your service and now please get out of the country I am feeling quite anxious you don't want to remove me. But there if things get too difficult. That's the choice really. So has Jack decided to tough it out is that what he's saying. He say he's going to wait and see he's going to give it a listen bit longer and actually the Dutch government has been very clear sending out Lasser's I have so far applied for a right to stay documents in fact I have a right to stay cards or for blitheness cards staying cards. And so he's going to waste his see what happens at the end of October on Halloween or before and then make a decision based on what he thinks his chances of staying here without passports are I mean in terms of of paperwork or bureaucracy is a such a thing as permanent residency whether I would take ing citizenship there is and one of the differences between taking a permanent residence in applying for their citizenship is that the Dutch citizenship was guarantee you the freedom of movement across the e.u. Porters because you would keep your European passport so you wouldn't need to show a document every time you would need to as you may do as people fear have to show a visa if you're travelling on a British passport in Europe in future so it's really about having the freedom of movement to cross borders to work in Spain or Portugal or the Netherlands that people don't want to let go of and they fear they may be forced to if person leaves but as the do that the people who've done it who've who've taken this plunge those seem to have any regret months there has just gone dark she split up with her husband and that had a big impacts on her decision day I got my Dutch passport and I became Dutch I was so so happy the anguish was over but it is sad that that has. To lose my British nationality I would have loved to have had both because I'm still British in my heart I do see the Dutch passport really as a to to be the same as my children I did not want to run the risk of having to go back to the u.k. And even my children behind. When I'm on my own then i then they then they take his car and then I get emotional can't take in I thought be out the girl they can take the girl out of Darby. Orgy where you can truly understand her part of You Can't you she's got no choice really the children for the children so she has to do this I mean does she though that's the thing that there's no certainty so it's really all about removing the arms are 70 and the status of limbo that so many Brits feel as though they're in it may be that the u.k. Leaves and that nothing changes the tool but they just don't know and so it's in order to have some kind of peace of mind as she said there and she was sitting staring her well known British t.v. Brand. New or last of her because so many Brits you know when you leave the u.k. You do have this kind of attachment that you don't even necessarily have when you live there you almost become even more British You want your home comforts and I think that's another reason why it makes this decision so difficult. Well as chair ourselves up now and in a minute we'll tell you why these people are playing. Cry of a big and they've got to celebrate out. Budget a. Budget. Yes It's absolutely bizarre to foreign eyes the celebration and I have witnessed on cheese say was remarkable you know. There was a public holiday 1st of all savants the schools were people in the streets with flags wearing orange how we exit face pay all the children on their parents' shoulders so much celebration for the annual budget it's. Just so odds with what we would normally associate with our. Sense of the budget being released in the kind of. Tight and all that kind of thing but here in the Netherlands they have reason to celebrate because that that should Khana me is in such an enviable position so that kind of headline figures ever in the in the in the Netherlands will be better off next year the government coalition government expects that 2020 will be the 7th year in a row of growth although it could be slightly limited by things like breaks it with the Netherlands being so close to the u.k. Politically and economically but it was just absolutely fascinating watching how people came out lined the streets to to watch the king and queen travel through towards parliaments and their golden carriage and the highlights from the budgets for people who are interested in the Dutch economy is thriving at 3000000000 euros allocated to increased spending power especially among the middle income lower income groups in society more measures to help 1st time buyers health insurance will go up slightly after years of cuts more money for defense and the kind of the big $1.00 is that multinationals like shadow and fill the will have to pay corporation taxes from 2021 and in the past the Netherlands has been seen as a kind of tax haven where they can get away with not declaring their their taxes or paying tax because they can offset it with with losses Alf's where so it looks like that will stop after a loss of pressure from opposition parties and people actually in society say well we don't enjoy these benefits so why should they the big picture is that the economy is a robust and to try to understand the figure. Alyssum or I cycled there and the statistics are to meet the boss his name is Peter Heine Mulligan and he sat to me seems pleased I think we've been in pretty good shape for the past few years there are some of obviously some points where we could do better especially if you look at wages income of households but overall I think many Euro countries would be quite jealous to have our figures. But on the other hand there are some clouds on the horizon of course but also to cooling of the German economy the worldwide trade dispute with between the us and China so that there are some generation challenges ahead and while we were at a small open economy so we are a bit hesitant where that might mean for our economy for costs have been a bit less positive for the next few years still some economic growth but will quite lower than the past few years have seen. Well from the Netherlands to as well the election results are still expected but the exit polls seem to spell bad news for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is not going to get enough seats it would seem fingers crossed to far my government fingers crossed I say because we really don't know yet of course the results will show and these are Orly exit polls but the same polls suggest that the centrist alliance of former General Benny Gantz is slightly ahead or Mr Netanyahu is like cooed and neither party will win off to form a government on their own address his supporters Mr Netanyahu stressed that the final results are yet to be and I'm Steve didn't respond to Mr Gazza scoll to farm a government of national unity but he did say that talks to form a government will begin in the next few days in the next few days so rude and tender gauche ations in order to boost a strong Zionist government and to prevent. An understanding through his government this is what we need to do now. Government that unites many interests in the country and do not discriminate anybody who believes in his role as the national state of the church people well there's Mr Netanyahu saying that he'll be looking for a government to prevent son and he Zionist group from taking power we're joined by Dr Mark Baker from the Australian Center for Jewish civilization and Mona's University Center not looking great for Mr Netanyahu from what we can understand. So good morning or good morning and stay time here in Australia and the thing about Israeli elections is that the results keep shifting polls closed in Israel at 10 pm and I was up all night listening to Israeli t.v. And over the course of that period the numbers keep shifting So firstly it's not just based on exit polls now about 85 percent of the real vote has been counted and it keeps shifting in the last hour it's actually shifted in favor of Netanyahu so as it stands there are 2 major blocs So there is the Netanyahu only could block which is made up of the Likud Party and 2 religious parties and so he could has 32 states. Religious parties have 17 and a very right wing path he has 7 and more extreme right wing power he didn't pass the electoral threshold so that gives that bloc 56 Israeli Knesset or parliament and has 120 members which means you need 61. Order to actually form a government so Netanyahu has a natural bloc of 56 they opposition in a 61 dozen to Israel formerly of machines so the. Opposition He's the major bloc is led by blue and white it's 3 army generals and one of their personality Dancy's their major later he speech when he spoke up and contrasted with the one that you just played by Netanyahu way he called for and for reconciliation for unity for healing many of the words that some would say being cold by Netanyahu was very desperate. Attempt to hold on to government and using tactics of incitement particularly against and the Arab has and so there they have at him at the moment they same number of the blue or white paddy of the same number of seats as Likud and that they in natural bloc is made up of the the 3rd largest party which is the Arab power the jointly States made up of 4 different and Arab factions with very different ideologies and Israeli Arabs or Palestinian Israelis and make up 20 percent of the population and they received 12 men dates according to the current polling the current count of 85 percent of votes and it can still change the Labor Party which ruled and build Israel until $977.00 has been reduced their actually decimated to 6 eights and the Democratic camp and has 5 seats so what's shifted in the last hour is that the right wing bloc led by Netanyahu has 56 and left center left blog has and 55 seats and it's now the task of the president of Israel and Reuben read Rivlin to test someone on the shoulder and to give them the 1st chance at forming a coalition that the kingmaker you know all of this is in a way to joker in the pack is they later of the. Of the party that sound off as a Russian immigrant Patty. They delayed he was once an ally of Mitt and you know and one of the reasons Israel has gone to a 2nd election in. In the space of one year is that lame and he's refusing to seat we will not sit with the out all the rocks and wants to introduce a bill that will force them to be conscripted along with other Israeli citizens into the so when he or she withdrew or support the tea from from that who earlier are to me there really are no you are forcing the elect. And it's a honest and you know played a very for him an even more desperate campaign than ever and the reason is that he is. Currently being indicted on 4 different charges that opin doing hearings at the beginning of October and if he were formed and he's hope was that he would have formed a natural right wing block of $61.00 Sates he would've been able to extract an immunity below that is laid out he can be charged with chimp criminal charges so. It's unlikely Well it's unknown exactly what the outcome would be now and most people are predicting that unless the votes shift in favor initially Allen it's still possible because there is still 15 percent of the votes to be counted it's very possible I think most pundits are saying that there will be a national unity government there are many contradictions in have that will be formed because and all the different demands that will be made by the blue and white party and by Likud led Bennett and the other and can you just to finish the arithmetic off can you tell us how many seats door leave them about the moment yes sorry Lieberman has 9 seats so given that both sitting at the moment so just change them if you would have watched the news an hour ago or 2 hours ago 3 hours ago there was a feeling that they that blue and white were ahead and therefore that guns would be asked to form to be given the opportunity to form a government but we don't know where that will where that will go and so both Patty is on their own. Tried of course and lead them and that Lieberman was going to a copy. Netanyahu allegedly that will include the ultra orthodox given that was he's precondition for joining and the question is whether or not this and you can gain the immunity and he sakes and Israel has a tradition of. Actually to its credit of imprisoning and laid as who am being. Fit and being charged with corruption and Netanyahu is trying to use his power in order to create new legislation that would grant him immunity and how he explains he's desperation and the way the campaign was conducted which really. Through the duration of the day Nathaniel's main way of communicating is through and Facebook and yet also on Facebook that at one point Facebook banned because of some of the content and weather and the legality of using it of Election Day and he was using it in order to paint the blue and white party as a leftist party that will require the support of Arabs and therefore what he calls an end he's on the blue i Pad he is anything about left it's a very centrist party in fact. It's possible that on policies military policies towards Gaza that it would take a harder line that Netanyahu who is being accused of shying away from full scale was couldn't see. Just coming back to the incredibly important role are being offered by Vavasor Lieberman would he give his party's support to look cooed in the event that could chose another leader. So that's one of the other scenarios that people were predicting that it would be possible that they would be a national unity government and the blue and white Patty Murray has an internal if has an eternal rotation system for prime forward for prime ministership between guns and yeah and. The problem is if it's a unity government there is a limit to how many prime prime ministers can be rotated so. It might have assumed that blue and white would have used that strength had it performed better as well as it was as well as a conformed to courting to the exit polls and insisted that they would do a national unity only Likud replaces Natanya and that Netanyahu he's the master strategist he's followers call him king of Israel and he has a way of manipulating political situations he's been in power for 10 years because of that mastery and one of one possible prediction is that he will ask is opposition. Today because every mostly would just with the result as you have clearly said by no means clear thank you for your time thank you. Dr Mark Baker is with the Australian Center for Jewish civilization at more notion of our state in Melbourne and it's just after operas for. Digital b.b.c. 73 Gummi this is b.b.c. Radio 5 live here with b.b.c. News Emily Morris Johnson suspension of Parliament case resumes in the Supremes court yesterday a lawyer for the Government's at the prime minister was entitle to make the decision and it was not an issue for judges critics say the suspension was an attempt to silence M.P.'s on breaks it the sun is defending its decision to publish a story about Ben Stokes family the England cricket so-called thoughts called the lowest form of journalism the paper insists details of the tragedy were already on public record. The results of a 2nd general election in 5 months in Israel is said to be too close to cool exit polls suggest neither of the 2 most popular parties have enough seats to form a majority government and its claim lower income areas are more likely to lead free to use cash machines the consumer group which says action is needed by government to make sure people who are lying on cash on tonight access 5 News shut down as a sport and hoping not to forget for Liverpool in the Champions League as the holders lost their 1st group much to nil to Napoli both goals came late on the in the match in Italy Fernando Lauren take capitalized on a mistake by Virgil van Dyke after underwrote bits and have found to give away a penalty Well this is manager getting club's opinion on that decision I'm pretty sure there are different views on that situation but when the player chimes before there's contact and it cannot be a penalty we cannot change that any more it's all that's all it is and now we carry on that club side of the 1st winners of the competition to lose the 1st game of the next campaign since AC Milan in 1994 formidable defend Stephen Warnock was watching the match for 5 life before straight support the rule not they've been on the football that they've been playing of late they're allowed an off night I think Notts quite obvious we have to give credit to Napoli as well I thought not only were super been the way that they played the game when they rolled the pressure from Liverpool they weathered the storm and then they have the quality to go forward so we can't take anything away from not play frustration of a Chelsea went down one nil time to Valencia they could have equalized when Ross Barkley stepped up to take a v.a. Are awarded penalty but unfortunately his f.a. Hit the crossbar and went over Frank Lampard also so young talent Mason Mt limp off early in the game is going ankle injury which we don't know how bad it is and what have to assess it at the next 244 hours to say the scale of the injury to say get out have been injuries so is to too soon decide. It's an ankle injury and obviously it is a shame because use by so well and start again well and we had to manage I'm jolly more Champions League action tonight on 5 Live women just a city are which shocked at Donetsk they've had another injury setback would defend the Johnstone's out for around $4.00 to $5.00 weeks with a muscle injury by bloodsport starts early at $530.00 with n.p.r. Cos against Tottenham kicking off 1st now Wales has to prepare for the opening Rugby World Cup match with Georgette without their assistant coach Rob Howley he's been sent home from Japan for allegedly breaching betting rules and is being replaced by slimmest Scarlett's flyhalf Stephen Jones How is a former Wales teammate Duffy James says Jones will be good for the team but this incident may affect their campaign negatively I mean frenzy and all the opposition will latch onto it to try and disrupt what Wales have and in their armory I think it's at this stage in the competition or the they can enter a competition which is very detrimental to Wales and especially as you know everybody in Wales thinks this is probably our best opportunity to date to come away with William whether it's Cup cricket's County Championship will be decided by the final match of the season next week between Essex and Somerset with the leaders looking for the thirst title and presence p.s. 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On a pressure in control across much of the British Isles for the rest of the week so most places looking at Draw it was starting the day today with over the phone just brushing the north of Scotland a lot of cloud across Scotland but it's really in the North to say most of and he outbreaks of rain will continue with outbreaks of rain here during the day worse elsewhere in Scotland although you keep hold of the good to the plot of the parts of eastern and southern Scotland that will gradually bright not turn the tide but all that all and a lot of clouds. 5 lives all over it so it's going to be a lot of fun South Africa's president several ram opposed has sent a team of emissaries to several countries across the continent following a wave of attacks on foreign owned businesses and homes President Obama poses says the envoys will reassure fellow African countries that South Africa's committed to Pan African Unity hundreds of Zimbabweans Mozambicans have fled to shelters to escape the violence and Nigeria has flown several 100 of its citizens back home also it's quite serious Let's join up all night say that Cornish who is currently away from South Africa Hello Jacques. But good morning to you morning the Alps and the continent Nevertheless what 1st c.n.n. Your. Well as you know what's been going on and it's been going on affectively all the time we had the peaks of it of course back in 2867 people died in xenophobic violence some African authorities are losed to use that word xenophobia is something of deep deep shame to the you can imagine these are the easier the people that all these were the countries that supported us and sheltered us at great cost and great risk during the fight against apartheid and now this citizens are being turned part in South Africa to South Africa since that time where they had to put people in camps I can remember them along with side of the highway between Pretoria and Jenna's break and to camp these people just to take them it's not quite as bad as that again but the xenophobic violence Keech breaking out in the government keeps referring to this criminality all run it is there is criminality involved when the attack on a business or a home happens then they use Rashid and Zoot and the and and they get involved in what is effectively straight up and down criminal action but what happened in the latest case was actually drivers in Pretoria confronted the Nigerians who they believed was selling Delpy which is a particularly virulent form of crack cocaine to the youths and they tried to stop them and the Nigerian killed TXI driver the taxi drivers they took over the center of Pretoria and they followed xenophobic attacks and then others that spread around the country at some point to jihadist. If I become Texaco busty agendas but Pretoria and Cape Town. There were some back in April and a special committee then the foreign minister to do is to sue the. African on voice and a special committee was set up that committee doesn't seem to have been able to do anything about this and the way this has manifested itself was sort of around the puzzle being booted Robert Mugabe's funeral and then he said I'm apologizing and have apologized on the hop of old South Africans Zimbabweans are saying apologies not enough to most people have died in this latest outbreak of violence but 10 of those will be the South African No Nigerians to Zimbabweans and Zimbabweans Of course you see what happens Robin that's quite understandable is that South Africa is an economic gloats stuff and people come from all over the continent seeking refuge here you know I having to Toria people knocking on my door speaking French saying you are the French Street speaking person in this neighborhood and you help us people from Baroudi from Rwanda and from Franco foreign countries Richie G.'s effect. Except as understandable that people come to South Africa but South Africa itself has grown up economic problems and such very easy for troublemakers to say well it's these foreigners I call them aquatic where it is foreigners who are steaming our jobs stealing our women and it's it's been folks and I just had acid on me on side or is it I mean that this this turning on the stranger this is such a phenomenon in our world right now. And in any trouble part of the will you know if you're having a tough time and there's a foreigner who see you who you see is putting bread on the table for his family well I mean you know you you you look to that and the temptation to blame that is becomes overwhelming so it's an exceedingly difficult thing we just got a bit ministry the presidency going to see mamma do Behati. Nigeria to give him assurances Biharis was grateful for that but you know the you at one point the much you are just saying we should move our own security authorities into South Africa to support our people that well that's never going to be allowed but and as a say this Abubus are saying look at a simple apology from Brum oppose a is not enough. But one of the bit tired needs is that the real debate in South Africa of coast is this shame about the Zeta phobia but the real debate in Southern Africa is about violence against women and children and Sitaram opposer when he spoke to the nation in the months that's when he began with we can act to change this completely they are going to have to toughen the laws no back. And life's meaning life for prisoners who have been jailed for 2 islets against women the women themselves are taken to see cool going for a state of emergency calling for return of the death penalty Well I mean that's never going to happen in South Africa the death penalty was used by the apartheid regime for political purposes so if the death penalty was removed by the a.n.c. And will never ever read to but these women actually then approach the World Economic Forum beating in Cape Town as part of a protest and the police had to turn water cannon and tear gas on the you know it's a very very charged situation to have opposers calling the parliament back from its break to discuss to have a debate on violence against women that also bring in those in a far big point there but you know while the will point its finger at us was it a phobia South Africans themselves are saying we've got to change our approach on ballance against women we have to get much tougher society there has to be a societal change and I think the president Dr opposer does exactly that and he has responded to that. Cornish and to those in the moment Joe Jackson thank you thank you very much indeed. Indonesia is says stepping up its response to thousands of forest fires that are sending thick smoke across Borneo and Sumatra and particular present Joko Widodo has ordered action against individuals and companies who start fires there daily 200 people have already been arrested and thousands of soldiers or thousands more have been deployed to tackle the blazes and many schools have been closed the b.b.c. And the nis a reporter Reeve on the Washington who is in the Borneo at the moment in the main province of Cullman town and in the main city of pulling Kut I where apparently we we hear are riven the air quality is not too good right now. Yeah well actually the air quality here in Poland that I have is that it's worst level possible it's in hazardous level so everyone is advised to wear their masks when they want to leave your home. Although actually began didn't even advise them not to leave their houses unless they have to or my guess is that as bad as it was in 2015. Well it's getting closer to that level of urgency but actually it's not that bad yet but we haven't we don't know what will happen next but what the government has done so far they're still trying to put out the fire that burning all the these lands the people and also the forest but they admit that it's a very hard thing to do to actually extinguish all the fires with massive scale so what the locals are doing right now is basically they're praying for the rains are right because they believe that the alternate juror for the haze and also the fire that's happening right now how does anybody can it be professor on how many acres are burning. If there are. 100 of thousands of a Chris actually it's pretty bad and here in it's actually the 2nd largest. Area that is affected by the fire and the thousands of people are also have been rushed to the hospital due to the illnesses that they suffer from brave thing in the haze that is covering all the area. How are her children getting on. Well actually the most affected one I mean there I mean physically they're very weak so it's best for them not to leave their houses and even the government decided to. Stop the schools. To shut the schools for a week to see if the. Air quality is getting better in the next week and from what be seen from the. Our weather forecast it says that on Friday it's going to be raining but yeah let's hope that it's true because I think that's the most possible way to put out all the fires and what about all these arrests of people who say. They mostly farmers were they doing it to to try to clear brush and scrub. Yeah well actually the police. Have actually captured. Hundreds of individuals like farmers and also some of the companies but up until today it's still an investigation. But the previous. Companies who are actually have been. You know finding they haven't paid a penny but the government claims that they have received like hundreds of millions of Protea but it has has not been proven so far. The people any happier with the government of the way it's been responding. Well this is a very classic problem in this fire has been happening since 97 so it's been happening for the past 2 decades and it's getting worse in 2015 and now it's also worse than last year so. People Indonesian people are actually really begging the government to actually. You know do the law enforcement rightfully because lots of these companies and also individuals was passed the land on fire and forest fire have not been punished properly. It does sound as has been incredibly difficult for the local government there too and is this new . Places where the fire is burning as it burnt burned there before. This different parts of the forest. Well mostly it's the same spot as. Hot spots last year or in 2015 and that's what influx interesting a green This actually went to. To publish their research on it which that's burning this year and last year and what is that. You know burned out land last year has become a sort of that and we're going to look on that. And is there anywhere that people can get oxygen or anything one of the for the elderly doing what about people with. Well yeah actually the government in Poland had a local government they have decided to make all the. Hospital hospitals cost free for those who are affected by the haze and they also set up some oxygen houses they call it or those who want to get some fresh air and you know pure oxygen from what they've been writhing in so far outside their houses it's not only the government some of these N.G.O.s also set up the same object houses and it's working good so far but it's not enough I mean I mean comparing to the population of the city itself it's massive and I have far away from Poland would you have to go in order to find you know Bree's a boy or or not or where there wasn't any way. Well some of well a few cities and a few locals in Poland and I decided to flee to. Say 1st city like Baghdad a massive if like 3 out of 4 hours away driving from Poland and I yeah but some of them also glad to Jack out of so outside of Borneo to actually get fresh air and free themselves from the haze that's been surrounding them so far well I'm sure you must envy them sometimes but refund thank you very much for your time . But also. Fun to us to know joined us there from Borneo. The Alter Creek which is an area of California southern Sierra Nevada has $570.00 acres of the most noble tree in the world the giant sequoias been described as an all plain landscape the psychiatrists or least 250 feet and their trunks are a massive 80 feet arrive and today a conservation group has signed a deal to buy the whole grove they said as possibly the most coveted conservation opportunity for a generation some harder is the c.e.o. Of the Save the redwoods League and he joins us now hello Sam. Oh. Thank good very good I hope will be able to hear your side a little far away so if you wouldn't mind speaking up the 5 boroughs you're in San Francisco where you are at least in the Bay Area where where you are. Your group is based can you tell us something about the older Creek psychiatry because I know that not a kind of household name are they. That's right they're actually very very rare the giant sequoias grow only in as you described the west slope of the Sierra Nevada Mountains here in California only about $48000.00 acres around the world and that's only grows here in California so every opportunity to protect giant sequoia is a critical one and. There's 530 acre property that you describe the older Creek property isn't in holding it's virtually surrounded by the trying Sequoia National Monument and yet it's still privately owned say the wreck was leaked is a nonprofit here in California a nonprofit conservation organization we've been around for 101 years and we just secured an option agreement to purchase the property and protect the giant sequoia and at the property eventually to the Sequoyah national monument. Well there's that's one of the monument is is that a national park in the in the u.s. National park system. It's similar to slightly different rather than being owned by the National Park Service it's owned by a sister federal agency the u.s. Forest Service So while it's a separate designation the intent is is is somewhat similar. So it's actually adjacent to Sequoia National Park which was. One of the public I believe the 2nd National Park ever designated in the United States and just to the south of that national park park a Sequoia National Forest and Sequoia National Forest in this national monument actually contains fully half of the giant sequoia in the world. So it is a significant unit of. The United States federal government owning owning this land and this is a critical addition to it is really quite a spectacular landscape well enjoy Can you describe for people who have been beaten in such a lot the experience of walking in a in a circle your groove although it's quite it's quite remarkable and so the giant sequoia unlike the coast right you might have heard. They live they thrive only in . A somewhat middle elevation zone around 4500 feet up around $7000.00 seat and indeed this property is that in that range from clips from $6000.00 to about $8000.00 seats so it's it's a high mountain area in the Sierra and some snows quite a bit there in the winter time and when the snow melts and pools up in the Aqua for in this Alpine bowl you just get this remarkable verdant lush landscape and these trees many of them are thousands of years old that have this remarkable. So cinnamon bark that just is this bright brown red against the lush green of the grass with wildflowers across the pasture and. I think an incredibly beautiful blue Sierra sky just from an aesthetic standpoint it's quite beautiful and then when you think about the fact that these trees have been growing almost since the earliest human civilizations there's a giant sequoia tree that's over 3000 years old. Begin to get a completely different perspective of. Human life with human civilization would have trees been growing for that long. Is is there any idea of just how much. The Jon Secada actually covered a before you know the the Europeans came to California. For the Europeans came to California it was about the same age range. They've been depleted by about a 3rd in largely the same footprint unlike the coast redwood forest that grows only on the California coast that was the old growth giant sequoia was cut down by almost 95 percent so we didn't find the Sequoia intil frankly until about 30 or 40 years later and they didn't quite have the same. Ease of commercial harvest with the coast Redwood We would they would just get drawn right out to the ocean but in the mountains of the Sequoia they they lasted a little longer so the more of them were protected. By percentage. So I think it's a. Prehistoric time this. The replica Forest used to cover much of the northern hemisphere there's fossil records of the redwood in Europe and Asia throughout northern United States but over Iams of glacial time it's going to reduced to just these small patches just about 70 gross of giant sequoias here in the California mountains that's my seem trite but would you call them the dinosaurs of the tree world Oh absolutely they are the original face of nature. And wonderful thought I can just about smell them I mean there's nothing there's nothing like that smell is there of of being there and in that it is a truly magical place that encourage your listeners to come and visit. Well congratulations. Thank you so much very good of you to talk to anybody thank you. Simon Lauder is seal of the Save the redwood leaf he saw in the San Francisco Bay Area sunrises the day and I love them. Watching. This scene. It's 5 o'clock this is morning reports on 5 Live I'm Emily on top story the Supreme Court will this morning continues to hear the case around whether it's Norful for bars Johnson to suspend punishment annoy representing the government says the prime minister was entitled to do say but campaign is arguing it was a move to stop M.P.'s from having a say in the run up to price it the judges are also deciding if it's no fool for the co to intervene in the process although if it's a political Massa well that Craig is a constitutional law expert from the London School of Economics. Yes there are serious areas of agreement across vast swathes of constitutional law there are gaps there are sexes there are question marks and there are certain amounts of difference of opinion but this is how these these questions are decided it is times like this where you set precedents and then you deal with the structures they were following just leaves in those out rights of the Common Law approach case by case slowly slowly let's see what happens we don't do this top down right from a clean slate Here's the system again imposed on everyone the European Parliament will debate the state of Bracks it talks later statements from cricket the e.c.b. But also reams darling here of course has been on the receiving end of a lot of public cation like Santa really interesting reaction we've seen created around social media doesn't say the story is a matter of public record and was front page news at the time in New Zealand. Says the n.h.s. Service for gambling addicts in the north of England opens today based in Leeds it will help people with the most serious problems including those at risk of suicide the Gambling Commission estimates there are around 340000 problem gamblers in the. Consultant psychologist and clinical lead for the service so people can be suicidal have other mental health problems relationship breakdown employment difficulties obviously financial difficulties as well so we're going to get some people are going to be really quite distressed and in real desperate need for help I think from an important message is not everybody has to sign or get a very personalized individual can talking therapy which will actively address the gambling problem also help the person start to build the life that they want for themselves and for their families and for their future that's really important hopefully it's going to mean an awful lot for families and for individuals across the north so not just here in the local region but in the north face will have a center as well as over in Manchester the service has got the potential to really turn around a large number of lives and help people you know reach their potential which is what we're all about there are calls for the chance let's take a surgeon actions make sure people who. Access to free cash points figures from the consumer group which showed more than 8 and a half 1000 A.T.M.'s every the closed or started charging for withdrawals since January 28th seen Here's our personal finance correspondent Simon gone pets the calculations from which breakdown the loss of free cash machines by Parliamentary constituency they show the biggest reductions in lower income areas such as bird.