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Here we are the Monday evening just after 7 it's our time once for a fine and well and Deborah had to spend the next hour south in my company oh and plenty of other really interesting people with quite a lot to say as you're about to hear now most of us swag from time to time come on admit it and many children will have been exposed to bad language do you have to accept that or is it worth trying to stop other adults swearing in public places if it upsets you or those youngsters with you or coming out the football club who try to do just that plus would you pay your cleaner more if they were prepared to dust a vacuum and wipe down your skirting boards. In the nude. To talk about his attack. Let me know your thoughts just. Say. It's going. To. Go in. I. I. I. I. And. Said on the making. Of the past 7 show you how the other cookie tale it's been around. Christmas so I would on rice potatoes the science behind that doesn't stack up. Investigative and tell you whether you need to be telling the toaster down tomorrow morning if you looking for cheap holiday this year churches would like you camping out in that aisles champing they call it the activist and comedian Mark. Thomas is out on the road with a new show he'll be my guest a little later the man who just cycle from Land's End to John a groat but didn't leave his front room in the process now you'll find out later to Mark at b.b.c. Dog u.k. To get in touch via email you can always call 034530858 it's Facebook dot com forward slash mark for a show at Mark for a show on Twitter but we start the show tonight talking about swearing does it annoy you if you hear it in the street or a public place or do you just get on and ignore it non-league Lincoln city's f.a. Cup triumph over switch from the Championship last week led to this email being sent by a self-confessed armchair fam quite tongue in cheek but the writer does raise some interesting points about swearing at football matches Here's a little bit of the email. Why I still won't pay to watch football it since all bank. Well done Lincoln City f.c. On the best performance I've seen in 40 years I haven't been to since a bank for more than 17 years no indeed watched them play this season until last night. However as a suitably qualified armchair fair weather supporter as I believe we are known I was delighted to watch the B.B.C.'s live coverage of the game which showed a strong fit determined and skillful imps team beat their quarry seemingly easily whilst the quality of the football has clearly improved under the callee brothers the quality of some of the fans chanting remains exactly the same as I remember it all those years ago. A group rendition of your own you know you are directed at the track to boys not only seemed a trifle premature after only 5 minutes of play it was crude at best disrespectful at worst one of the main reasons why I hadn't been to watch the imps for so long came flooding back this were right see a vocal performance was clearly all double throughout the match and whilst I mostly agreed with these chanting fans sentiments upon the final whistle when a judgment could be made about how Which town actually were I'm not so sure this family entertainment event is what I would want to subject my 10 and 8 year old children to let alone myself in short I'd rather my children developed an interest in gardening at least if they get that wrong it's unlikely that next door will chance your weeding across the garden fence before they've even brandished a hoe. It's which were outplayed and beaten more soundly in the school line suggested by a far superior effort from the imps perhaps the specific fans could learn from this team's example Failing that perhaps they'd like to join my gardening club although to be honest they'd probably be. Ok so that football fan from Lincoln doesn't go to games anymore because there's so much swearing it is a problem at every football ground in the country next how one club has tried to tackle foul language get. Successful. language is so how do you make decisions not to go to certain venues because about possibly sporting events because you know the and we turn blue you don't mind because slightly embarrassed by those that you might like to take swearing on the terraces is it something that can ever be stopped or is it simply just part and parcel of going to a sporting event Ken Tomlinson his former club secretary of Margate football club where in 2012 the club band swearing in the stands he joins us now Ken Good evening good evening for your back and I mean how bad was it. It was a well it was bad it wasn't good. It certainly got out of the chairman of that period of time. Or. A minority of supporters were actually behind 2 were banned for life and the reaction among the wider public when you instigated this change was what good very good but we had that so I'm. Sure gentlemen you know you can form an e-mail. Similar top and let's not with swearing obviously but. The same sort of thing. The guy did it so I. Think you. Always see here Marco is a very very family orientated club and any day that's the last thing one wanted. Club you know the sort of languages thing coming from the time from the Terry season and obviously people to start staying away but the club wants to see a decline in attendance to us I mean how did you turn that around well we turned around we. Boy it was a sight the 9 coal face a sort of bind any right and 'd we took a lot of stewarding on gold. Our arms a poll to. The very good actually the image over to this photograph and there's another no problem with that but you still. Some tones opposition supporters call human and soul to solitude the same top a saying a very well suited to a club and free will when loaning a certain sex though so cold if it didn't stop they were evicted from the ground how easy is that to do because it takes quite a strawman of the incompetence too doesn't it to go out to somebody you may have a drink or 2 before your eyes and and and tackle them about that they owe you will they say so and he did I mean of initiated on Aqaba colleges on the in the place were cold but like a side. Generally speaking I would that period of time on it we had no problem the toll. We have a good sort of security stewarding the ground and all the seed I accepted it to what extent did you see the crowds then change because I suppose what you wanted was to bring in families who wouldn't have dreamt of coming before or yeah yeah I saw it in the past what even even it we have a community officer that goes within the community who scolds except for a. 'd way we have Skoda tainted matches we will have less fortunate that within the confines of the club we have I thought the solid pitches nowadays are cause you to noise. Prod to a nice tight wait with families will both die parties and the study coming back to Guy and it's unrealistic I suppose to my. Going to any fool much anywhere in the country possibly in the world and to hear swearing at all I mean for you personally is there a bit of a demarcation between what is inoffensive the odd swear word absolutely horrendously offensive Oh yes I think. That's the only switch talking. When we probably average about 700 we always say the place you know. You know you. Saw that Apple satisfying but obviously die hard deviation it is going to be very very difficult I don't I. Lost a study. Done. Here on the Cherry says you can't radio do you support slogans can but there is a limit there is a limit. Should they say Can great to me thanks so much coming on the show can Thomas inform me of my great football club at that last point he was making that you actually cognitive it is part of the but I can read part of what makes the English language great how true is that good talk somebody who's studied that very deeply to see what he thinks about the possibility. Eradicate in power. Much is that. The sort of trouble. The 1st like. Traffic in trouble fear throughout the program. This Ramallah who's in deadly who says swearing at football matches Well it's still bad but there isn't a racist or sexist chanting the used to be a weekly occurrence and from Sean here we go again the oh I'm suffocated but not sure by what or who gang are back if you don't approve of what's going on in the football that it's simple don't go job Doug talk about swearing in public at full matches on other sporting events if you do go with youngsters just put up with it it's part of life they'll hear it elsewhere anyway or do you actually make an attempt as a last speaker did to stamp it out it's an inventive use of the English language for many though swearing for others it's lazy it's offensive Peter Silverton is author of filthy English the how why when and what of every day swearing he told me what he thought about measures being put in place to try and reduce swearing in public. I think they're amusing primarily capable wasteful everywhere in the world so in some ways it's important that people try to stop it because as long as they try to stop it it means that it still has an impact and swearing is there to have an impact of course the measures will fail of course the measures a kind of big brother a but adds to the gaiety of the nation of people trying to stop the British swearing when we have such a long and rich tradition of swearing I mean Joan of Arc complained about swearing too much Casanova or explain complained about swearing too much in England it's part of a national pride do you have any sympathy with the idea that if you're trying to attract parents with young children on thinking of 5 to 15 year olds to a public event then try to cut down on the amount of colorful language probably a good idea Well it's interesting that I was actually a football yesterday and there was somebody swearing a lot behind me and it wasn't the language objected too much so much too as the violence behind the swearing now I think that is one of the points here is that when swearing is a is a manifestation of horrible nastiness behind inside the person then yeah I mean another person I mean would turn around and tell them to stop it I would grownups but I didn't do that because you don't know what will happen I think reducing is a good idea you never going to get rid of it is the point that you are making then that if you are creative and if you are funny and if you are quiet you don't think you know some of the the best chances here on the terraces then you can do it but if you just being brutal and aggressive then why bother I think that's that's very true very true brutality is unfortunately you know also a part of humankind but minimising in certain search situations is a very good idea I don't think. Present the children I mean I've been with my children when I was younger and it and it was unpleasant how you get rid of all swearing and brutality in a public arena I have no idea how do you describe the British out at you to swearing because it is interesting when people complain when people take offense they often counted in terms of. Feeling worried about how other people might react around the never say how they feel about the swearing that they have had and they are we too sensitive what the past swearing it's is that it if it's not offensive it has no reason to exist but what it is and what isn't offensive changes over the years I mean in the 1970s various words would be used on b.b.c. Sitcoms that now you would go crazy at least if I used in any context even just use them so there are a lot of words that were offensive now there are other words which have come more in the mainstream I'm very wary on the radio giving examples but there are words that people don't worry about anymore I mean there's a famous scene in My Fair Lady where allies deliberately uses a word that I'm sure I could use on the radio now but I'm not going to use it but it is seen as incredibly shocking Russian religious epithets now have a pungency that they didn't have 30 years ago religious ones used to have great pungency which not they no longer do I don't mean about people's religion but. You know examines and words like that which behind them stand different words we don't worry about that anymore but we need to have swearing it seems I'm not I'm not nothing but research shows us that if people have always sworn everywhere in the world. Every time in history it reflects a very very deep need in human beings to express secret parts of themselves some of which are offensive how do we can pad to the rest of the world oh we're particularly we have we. If there ever were in swearing England probably Scotland would be in the finals and every time they are out it would be up I think where we have to get. Much of the time we would win because McCourt invented with the varied we structure the English language makes it very easy to invent new swear words I mean much more easily much more easily invented in English the NIH or in French for example after you'd research written and published the book want to thank you did it have on your use of swear words a term thinker or friends ateliers by the right book an exhibit are actually swear very much but I think I do so that's an indication I do swear a bit. I'm not a big swearer I mean I found it more more interesting to observe it and than to do it I've never for example been a particular inventive swear I have a friend who claims to invented a swear word which was famously used by ISIS which I won't repeat here and here chapter verse and he's incredibly inventive swear when he needs to but. I just do it very much. With a filthy English the how why and what every day swearing and running a swag tally among the team to make this radio show scary reading. With you tonight thanks. Kids from bad language they are 12 and 15 we don't restrict the language they use but are aware that there was a time the place for everything and if they get in trouble at school or elsewhere it's on them sporting events here in the u.s. No different to the u.k. But taking my kids to ice hockey games since they were infants and I've heard the entire arena yell hole at the referees after a disputed call from a very young age. 72 on the most right now. 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Milton Keynes says I have taken all of my children to football I told them that they will hear language that they must not repeat in school some of the banter is funny and the whole point of going used to be part of the atmosphere they all say those words used in school anyway I know it doesn't make it right but look if it offends you so much go watch the rugby. 81 triple 3 on the text message markets market b.b.c. Doco you care you can call 34538058. If you're looking for a job where clothing is definitely optional then this might be a new career for you London based company nature is cleaners are looking for people to clean in the nude of which they'll charge 3 $45.65 pounds per hour not sure how much of that you'll receive but let's say it's a decent chunk it's completely real job requires doing things like dusting vacuuming making beds using the washing machine and in cleaning windows the company reassures people that there's nothing sexual about it and the cleaners cannot be touched. Rushton asked people in Leicester if they would consider giving it a go. Now I. Knows a pound going to. Rain with your hands so well hiring others just one year and how you know is strange Oh it will crank Union House know what I mean to really. Be surprised that they. Would have a higher when they keep trying now. To cleaner and you know their take is closer to my you. 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Introducing and live guests who have hit the 2 centers that excellent music and for whom right I return the favor beckoning to the studio they'll have a chat about what makes them tick Jay says I'm a vicar My biggest fear is accidentally swearing in the pope it not happened yet but there's a 1st time for everything we're discussing swearing in public or whether it's actually just something you have to accept or it is something that's worth fighting against Adrian says it's all well and good out of football match but it's not something you should hear in public ways he says you're in the street all the time Adrian do you challenge it Adrian's and Bogner What's the response a trois on a triple 3 is the tech start your message Mark we were cleaning make it 5 minutes ago now if you're looking to get fit but are put off by having to clean your sweaty smelly kit you might like to think about exercising naked Helen Smith is a personal trainer and nudist size instructor Hi Helen had to have a very well thank you interesting idea where did it come from. Well I think and I trained myself for a couple of years now and obviously I work as a fertile trainer a fitness instructor as well and I was stressing to some degree the other persons not to feel for them and they thought I was a teetotaler and I said wasn't good about doing nude exercise classes and I thought . My dear and I looked into it and I could see messages out through your good interest and the response was really really really close and I had a love interest 1st of all let's go for it why not I mean logistically is it fairly straightforward could use the same venue because those who are exercising closed would would use oh say very very much I mean I need to be carefully selective about the thing you see each want to make sure that there's no so boken window that people can look through. That obviously it's important to make sure the people that are you know really comfortable and you respect that they say and equally on the other hand you don't necessarily want anybody that would clear standard pricing and they can put a being able to to look through who were those or cracks in the doors that's what are they i'm so I have had to be quite sort of careful and check out places Bush for I've decided on the on the things that I'll tell you but in terms of what she when the regime and everyone involved in the class then it's exactly the same as any clothes that. She would now appreciate because our talk tonight she's on the show before that for many a there's a great sense of relief to be able to do things that you know a little bit we close on without your claim but putting that to one side other any health benefits to spend if it's that exercising in the nude. Well I think that it's just nice to be free I mean if you're feeling relaxed and comfortable and confident then automatically yet because it's going to be a better experience for you and I think it's important to find something that you really enjoy doing I think if you eat Joey cycling or if you enjoy playing tennis or if you enjoy being nude if you take that and you've got in terms of your fitness regime then you're going to stick at it because too many people meditate and fast on the gym it's quite quite the cut if not enjoyable so they're not going to stick at it so if you enjoy being nude and you can exercise in the nude then there's more reason to continue doing so and therefore you're going to be healthier with 1st that could be argued your better able to understand how the body is working how individual muscles are being flexed if you don't have the restriction of clouds I think that's certainly a benefit you know I mean speed to lift getting something that the plank for example you know you'll be able to see if the body's in the correct position you have to say that the cleats and I swallow that used to pleasing the abdominal muscles and so is beneficial to a certain extent to be able to see the instructor and also family structures to be able to really clearly see what you're doing as well as the many other classes like this around the country I think there are a few instructors that will offer new training but what they tend to do is they have their own studio and people come to them and I think I'm the only person that's why I said no he's offering on a Mopar basis so I'm going at about 2 different places and I'm bringing you to size 2 people love them people having to come to me how do you make sure your getting people who understand what you're up to and not just period peeping toms. Well I think that is really important again I want everybody in the class to feel comfortable and not feel that sort of a spectacle for the people. So I do ask everybody to pre-register before the heading for the us to send me an email to spend I say that they will be from attending the casa particular time and I To us it will not do you come by putting such classics I'd a just like verify with I mean really Georgie of people coming to the cos it's our general nature if so I think if there was maybe one of 2 you can call if your cool in that setting up the classes doesn't match this with kids and fairly short shrift and I wouldn't have a chick they hung time magine and your class a mixed all day does not cause any problems they are mixed you know doesn't cause problems any more than going on the will close next class would take her think a genuine a chance are used to playing around different people afford to switch. Ages really you know she's sure to get really really hard minutes with a close call she needed not stateful but you can make a living out of this heaven is further evidence that attitudes are changing to new to see how things are I think it's cheap salt gradually chasing you've got all sorts of things going on now like the Naked Bike Ride to happen in cities or down the country you could prove a medical campaign I think you've got all this going on I mean on the side you've got celebrities you know posting naked selfies with discipline Instagram people that are promoting really an unhealthy and unrealistic body image and I think there's a big backlash against a lot of management now getting people to. Just merely say that the 40 completely natural thing doesn't have to be effectual I. Image pose even showing. He's just getting people to embrace that but do you realize how one who they argue like that well despite what you know about thought for Christ. 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We're discussing things that you could do that were more fun when done naked cleaning I'm talking about taking exercise at a sports class and before that swearing in public and whether it's one of those things we just need to get over at Chelmsford ice hockey match This is from Mike in Essex they want to stop the game when the fans swore and they were warned that they would be objective it happened again I can't believe people try to excuse swearing in public I was at a football match Saturday the man swore a man swore in front of me behind me was a young family and I could overhear one of the children whisper Embarrassingly I nearly said the s word as if he needed his thwarted language validated education and social standards some don't have them thank you Mike you still get a match they wouldn't stop you from going and would you tap the bloke in front of you on the shoulder and say don't do it again the ritual or buy me I know it's a tough one you want to enjoy the match you don't a scrap let me know your thoughts on that or anything else we discuss in the show these waves are yours. Now this is a really interesting story and I heard it 1st thing while eating my toast and drinking my coffee and I did look for a moment or 2 the piece of bread in front of me wondering whether or not I had cooked it as I ort government scientists say overcooking starchy foods like bread and potatoes causes high levels of a potentially harmful compound called. So when it comes to toast the official advice is to aim for a golden yellow color rather than brown and certainly not black. Steve word is from the Food Standards Agency draw some people to go for gold darkie food spend you cook my temperature toast roast fried they can create a critter might we know that in animal studies it can create cancer and so we are concerned if there's the same mechanism in people that high exposures could increase people's misc and it's not just toast a critter might is found in a range of foods that are cooked at high temperatures including crisps breakfast cereals biscuits crackers cakes and coffee research animals has shown the chemical can damage d.n.a. Causing cancer and scientists believe the same may be true in people but there's no conclusive evidence yet Professor guy Poppy is the chief scientific adviser to the Food Standards Agency it's very difficult to conclusively show that exposure to occur in modern humans will create cancer in humans but a number of world experts have shown that the levels of acrylamide we diet do raise concern about the fact that this could be a important cancer forming product so the message is your to stop over Browning food stuffs like roast potatoes chips and root vegetables sidewards a former master chef winner and now a full time chef he says you can cook tasty food at lower temperatures with potatoes if you don't want to take them too far in the oven you could dress them in a 5050 mix of planter and flour you can use consular if you want to keep it gluten free things like that put a nice crunch on there without all the roasting and then with vegetables are high in sugar I tend to cut them in stock for example when I was a must chef by carrots in the final cuts encourage if's and then just finish through the oven to get a little glaze on there with a bit of honey so you don't need to keep them in there for hours and hours on end to get a really good crunch the charity Cancer Research says may pose a risk to humans but it's. Says there are other bigger dangers including being obese drinking too much I do specially smoking and some critics have described this warning as a an over reaction we're going to hear from one of. The King Sunday Got some sunshine on the bench in the house where me and the dog normally see outside in the summer stay in our emails while I do my email she snores read the papers out something having a cup of coffee it was beautiful if a little chilly. Turned up about 5 minutes later traumatic. The reform of them today. By us they all know test clearly because they were given tweets when they arrive and they'd heard on the post a great vine that she'd been ill and the 2 of them now virtually in tears she says she's alive she's fine she's here it's Ok but the one who came today about a 2 week holiday and the last time he saw her was the time just before she went into a doggie hospital in intensive care and she wouldn't take the doggie treat that he has given every day for the last 3 are 4 years so he knew something was wrong and he owns a border collie as well can imagine what that conversation was like as we both pick ourselves up in bits off the floor and the rest of the blighters in the village to get delivered finally all was well anyway to move back from doggie illnesses to potential in this is that you and I could suffer from if we burn our toast Another day another story about the health risk of a common food and today yes we were warned against overcooking roast dinners specifically to roast potatoes or eating burnt toast how much though should you and I worry about this David Spiegelhalter might be able to help me crunch the numbers he's a professor of risk and has been looking into this story about burnt toast and the dangers of the substance that the Food Standards Agency is talking about it's a substance called a criminal. Well in very high doses it can cause neurological damage on here in humans and it's been shown to cause cancer in mice but these are very high doses in a really over a 100 times what anyone who even has a lot of burnt toast and roast potatoes would normally consume it in which case our roast potatoes and overdone toast portions risking it all well if they've been unable to tell us what the risk is and this is maybe slightly more than slightly skeptical about a campaign where they can't tell us what the size of the problem is and what the effect would be. People changing their behavior and this isn't you know this is in spite of a lot of effort that in 16 large studies that have been correlated how much acrylic might people take in with would later cancer risk and no you know were consistent association has been has been shown and what this suggests is that it can't say there's no you can never say there's no risk pool but it is evidence that if there is something that doesn't seem to be very important a tool could you give me a comparative perhaps what would you put eating toast or roast potatoes in the same category as in terms of risk is difficult because it is low I mean it in terms of the evidence that it's cost an agenda and it goes in with red meat but in a similarly there is uncertainty about you know what the cancer risks of that is as well compared say bacon roll cigarettes where you really can't quantify what the cancer risks you know all you really can't say except they must be very small because no one stand them yet so the average person who turned the radio on over breakfast this morning while making tea and toast and heard the gentleman from the Food Standards Agency should that person listening be a tool worried. I.e.d. Let's I don't like giving advice I would let say I'm not worried and I like I quite like Delia Smith sort of roast potato recipes where you do crisp them and so I know what I'm more worried by and I'm quite rightly that the fact that I like a high calorie crisps I like eating them now that is quite reasonable to be worried about it because it's not really part of the balanced diet I'm consuming more calories than one need I'm putting on weight now that is really dangerous a basically an overweight is known to increase your risk of all sorts of things but in particular cancer cancer research u.k. Link 18000 cancer cases the year with obesity No that's that's real quantification it tells us what the size of the problem is and it says. That we're all eating too much and we're not eating a balanced diet now that is really important message and certainly which the f.s.a. Do emphasize and I think that's a much more important message than picking on particular things like tires looking at what you have said over the past 2 or 3 minutes that when I hear a headline that he's very it catching like this one this morning if you die I mean are there simple ways that I can make sense of it looking at who that carried the research out on is it my sole human should I look at sample sizes should I look at quantities What can I do well I'm a statistician and I'd like people to tell me the size of the problem you know not tell me something is a risk and we're well how big a risk how big how big a difference does this actually make how many people suffer because of this and if they can tell you that I think it's a suggestion that maybe we should take the take the message with with a pinch of salt but of course not too much salt so that and I think this is important because too many public health messages like this could make people distrust you know scientific messages because everyone I know says Oh here they go again telling us not to do this not to do that and you know I don't believe any of them well that's really unfortunate attitude to take you know that I think is already too much suspicion of you know of expertise and science and it's very unfortunate of this increases skepticism with which health messages are communicated when they really are strongly evidence based like you know exercise and drinking and smoking and and and eating too much concentrate then and not becoming overweight or obese and if you do bend the toes tomorrow perhaps it is Ok to reach for the knife and scrape that. I can I don't like to give advice but that's that's the. That's my approach it had that's what happens in this pickle how the household is dead it has been a delight thank you so much thank you very much that's David Spiegelhalter from the University of Cambridge he is the professor for the Public Understanding have. A mind set your mind at rest the radio chain which. The Suddenly I see I rather do believe that the nation we as a nation collectively roll our eyes when another food warning comes out there have been so many over the years just reading Sean's e-mail here if you want to eat all the things that the government of what about from time to time you die of malnutrition and or thirst take chocolate and read why they've gone from good for you to bad feedback good for your good that I'm not sure whether they're currently good or bad so hide everything in moderation as your grandmother used to say grand short she absolutely had it down to a teacher no bad foods that's the thing bad food chocolate bad what are you going to do eat a whole bar of it right and we're going to open another bottle and climb inside it so yeah they do say though if you can minimize process food eat natural buy some cheap fashionables chop them up put in the pan or the rice to and you can make them a bit black I need some more natural chances are the longer you live that's the only real Really. 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Doco the U.K.'s want to respond to what the Food Standards Agency have had to say today about burning the toast and eating too many Christmas etc etc I think David Spiegelhalter from the University of Cambridge did sum it up very nicely for as just a moment or 2 ago you have been getting in touch with song suggestions for the big sports story of the day which was that 2 time Olympic boxing champion nickel Adams has turned professional 34 years old she leads me part of the Great Britain squad of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics they rather confusingly it's been investigating this due to a change in the rules about 6 months ago she could actually pitch up as a professional that will be allowed next time around anyway she makes her professional debut on the 8th of April in Manchester What did you want us to play for there were about a zillion suggestions I just randomly pick a few I am the one and only Neil and Hartnell lots for the boxer Samberg of Uncle Alan in Runcorn just one of those How about street fighting years Simple Minds says Vicki there's a good you were being good maybe Saved By The Bell you would again be G.'s a ho who knew to be G.'s right so many boxing songs that one from Jane Jo boxes box a beat Donner thank you for that one Valerie when it takes it all I know the obvious one says Julie is eye of the tiger but I love it so I suggest it anyway Saturday night's all right for fighting by Elton that's a good to hear you say is look she's turning professional boxing ring so want ring of fire Johnny Cash. Theme from Rocky isn't a cliche it's just the best as and the in Finsbury Park who have Queen we're the champions. So Kevin or I close my eyes and count to 10 see they get better and better keep in Leicestershire simply the best but worst we do have a soft spot for any toward Pitt. So thank you for ring my bell. Meet. The be. The coming. Week. Now. Tomorrow morning time to the basics remains closed for emergency repairs to Bridgette shot between the a 14 and wrote any other problems do call in. 1234 it's the latest amount of more. How you taking lifts from night some just realize you get to a point in your life where you don't do it as much as you used to because you tend to do most of the driving yourself or use public transport anyway I went out with a power on Friday for something to drink and got a lift to the station afterwards some people trying really really fast like you After 9 o'clock activist and comedian Mark Thomas is going back with his new talk to the place where it all began for him an interesting Shad painted red in West Yorkshire he's a Southerner So what's all that a back we'll find out Mark Thomas on the show in half an hour after past 9 b.b.c. Introducing star of the future and a man who's just cycle from London to Jonah Grant's without leaving the comfort of his own front room 1st though there was camping which I guess you would have done some point then there was glam pain which is posh camping with last March and now there's champing Michelle Adams and went to St Thomas' church near Oldham. To find out more. Got my flask got the torch will read to do a better champing And with me is Peter as he's from the churches Conservation Trust This is an amazing idea what's it all about so this is the simple experience of staying in a church so basically you've been camping you've been glad ping now those Champaign was shaken up the tourism industry so we have all of these the church Conservation Trust owns $350.00 historic churches right across England and we look for ways to engage communities to use them in all sorts of different ways and we need to raise the money as well to make them sustainable in the long term it's really important that these buildings remain relevant to people and communities because they're so important and champagne is a great expression of that So not only do you get a truly extraordinary experience and it is something entirely authentic and unique but also you get to contribute towards looking after these buildings in the long term so that they're here for the next generations to keep telling the stories of the communities that came before so how does this work then do you book all you have to do is go to Champaign da code or you carry on there you can book online you can look at all the churches have a look at some of our films and the testimonials as well of people who stay before if you don't believe me they're really good and you can choose your church book it's online and then our champing team will be in touch and make all the arrangements and there's a variety of ways that you can chant you can do is couples can do is groups. And I have responsibility for the graveyard but also the form is to look after this building on a regular basis and the only church is used at least once a year for service a local songs of praise as it were and were open heritage weekends as well it's about this idea then of Chapel having people camping out. In this space they said interesting question because you think it of course a totally different use but the previous saltfish of Canterbury Rowan he said the churches should be looking see Wake What do in the world and get involved or maybe this is God's doing and we should be getting involved they're not saying you know company my church we should say come along and have a look and if it's your thing yeah go for it have a go and see what it's like you don't have to be Christian then to come and data saw Thank you no not at all anybody of any faith or no faith I think is just a way of looking at historical building and maybe you might have the opportunity of coming into the presence of God because you are in a special place. Thanks. Michel Adamson with that report. That you can. Just go where you. Tell me. To go no tax. Even though your hate me. But there's no. I really feel. That. Way. I That's what was said you fancy giving champing a go some of our oldest churches out and out the land. Being reinvented as venues where you can rest your weary had but some of Britain's best examples of 20th century architecture are in danger of being lost for ever as towns and cities a redeveloped the 20th century society has released that buildings at risk list and its director Catherine Crawford joins us now Katherine Good evening hello do you want to examples of buildings that are on this list. You know we've we've picked 10 buildings across the country. And we've tried to get a really big range of buildings so we've got private houses and public housing we've got university buildings and we've got a library so the idea is that it's a whole range so I mean some of the best known are probably. The Durham university's student union building which is a concrete brutalist building really close to Durham Cathedral so in the setting of a fantastic medieval building. We've got the synagogue in Manchester. We've got a fantastic building that's known as the elephant in Coventry because it is literally shaped like an elephant and that's a sports center. We've got buildings that belong to an Oxford college and we've got a church on the south coast what why is it do you think that you and the society think that these buildings are worth saving but others don't agree with you. Well there are actually a real range of building styles and types so I mean I think people. Love them or hate them for a huge variety of reasons I mean some of these buildings are ones where you know they're kind of just at the low point in their cycle of being going from being really fashionable when they're 1st built to going out of fashion and then get being rediscovered so that they're the bottom of the trough really where is a lot of Victorian buildings I think you know people would have said they were ugly and dirty and you know redundant 50 years ago now where really fallen back in love with a lot of those likes to paint Chris railway station you know it now looks fantastic whereas we haven't yet had the time to rediscover a lot of these 20th century buildings on what is threatening the music purely redevelopment somebody will pay a lot of money to knock them down and put something else there instead you know in most cases it is that they're sitting on sites where. Yeah that where the developers think that they could make more money by knocking the building down and putting up something bigger but sometimes quite a lot of the buildings that were built by local authorities and obviously local authorities are very short of cash moment so I mean the librarian whole been part of the problem there is that the local authority really don't have the resources to keep on running a library. The public housing you know they feel that they could build it's really lovely they the state we've chosen this goes up to about 3 storeys maximum and it's a little has it's been maze and that's all interlocking. And local authorities are really looking at putting. Much highrise buildings on to the sites that they own because they're so desperate to be increased the amount of housing doesn't the fact that we can list buildings isn't that a tool in your arm you can just get listings on these buildings and then presume you people can walk into well. Yeah some of the a couple of buildings on the list are listed. Including high cost House it's a 930 s. House it's actually listed a great 2 star but sadly even if a building is listed there is no real power to make people look after it properly so they can still be neglected and sadly being a being a listed building. Doesn't completely prevent people even knocking it down and I think particularly with post-war buildings there's been quite a lot of instances of where they've been listed and then very sadly. Listed really consent is being given for demolition and that's something that we're constantly battling against and we still suffer from the problem that sort of the prince charles problem that those with the leaves of power the great and the good do as you say Love the Georgian buildings and their Victorian buildings haven't quite yet felt the love for some of these sixty's and seventy's buildings I think that probably is really too and actually one of the buildings on on the on the list Dunham house which is the Durham building has been turned down by the minister at the Department of Culture Media and Sport and she is not ignored that she didn't just ignore our advice that she ignored the advice of historic England who were you know paid by the taxpayers to be her specialist advisers and they said they thought that should be listed and her view was that it was a concrete building and it was. Crumbling and it couldn't be repaired ever and therefore it wasn't worth listing which I think it's I think is completely misguided but I think there is still a feeling that particularly the British buildings at the sixty's are not only ugly but really difficult to repair but it's really not sorry calendar is there a point there that if these are concrete buildings and concrete is something that's quite tricky to repair and probably quite expensive as well and not everybody loves these buildings in the 1st place is new just time to say Ok you were there you were great but now it's time you went. Well I think with an awful lot of them yes it probably is but we're only we looking to save the very best of them and certainly in the case of this building it's one that was you know built to a very high standard point and we know that the it's been engineered to a very high level and I think you know the way the concerns about its condition are a hugely exaggerated but it's it's it's very easy I think people panic about concrete particularly say. You know that. It I think there is still this kind of kneejerk reaction as you know is us saying about Prince Charles you know people do dismiss buildings still it's being concrete monstrosities and. Kind of don't think of them in the same way as previous historic buildings because actually there's no for lots of types of stowed which are permanently crumbling wearing away really weren't much good for building but we don't kind of think about that's as big a problem if we do lose this generation of architecture history was the worst of it how do you think people really look back in a 100 years ago that was a great shame or they just think Well that was a small period of time we got all the really good dead old stuff and now we're creating fantastic new 21st century buildings will they shed a tear for the sixty's and seventy's I certainly think they will because I think it's a period when we were incredibly innovative with architecture in Britain and the loss of these buildings are you know they're really kind of it yes in critical imaginative and. They're kind of really character for buildings and if we've only got them left in you know photographs and quite often feature in films and. You know videos to some tracks. I think that we will wonder you know how we could possibly let them go if we don't make a real effort to save them what can we do about it when our local councils as you rightly pointed out desperately need money they can sell the city center often Town Center valuable sites and fill their coffers. Not much we can do really to argue against that is that I think we're only we're asking for local authorities to keep the best of the best and you know that they just need to kind of really appreciate what they've got and they were there I don't think they'll be a local authority anywhere in the country that couldn't actually redevelop somewhere else where there's a building that's a lot less worthy of keeping on the site at the moment. We really are just saying you know just think before you make a decision about what you demolish Thanks Catherine great to talk to Kathryn Crawford is the director of the 20th century society we've been talking about buildings like Dunham house in Durham the b h s murals in the sight of the Holland Stockport the Magister Reform synagogue and police station the elephant and swimming baths in Coventry and Hoban library and the list goes on we'll put a link on the Facebook page if you'd like to have a look at pictures of these buildings thumbs up or thumbs down let me know binge the us a straw poll it's unscientific but let me now anyway Facebook dot com forward slash mark for a shout write something a bit different for you now from b.b.c. Introducing this is track one for the week comes from the electric swing circus from Birmingham they're alive Electress when band they'll take you back to the sounds of the twenty's I hope this is that song and pious. He said. Next. 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Here we are then if you need to get a lot of what actually choose to share with you some interesting stories and a special guest or 2 now in an era when rightwing the populist politicians are offering the seemingly simple and attractive solutions to complex problems is there's still a role for the campaigning left leaning comedian Tori in the country firing up the grassroots with political rhetoric in a moment I'll ask a veteran writer and stand up Mark Thomas if the public still wants to hear what he has to say Plus meet the man who cycle from Land's End to John a grades from the comfort of his own home thanks to a virtual reality headset. Great story you'll hear from him before 10 o'clock and you'll hear from Glen Campbell right now. I'm going to be told. The same old song on. The live. Love the gang Campbell Rhinestone Cowboy b.b. Seems to contract to after harvest Not about 20 minutes the guest to talk to is this well now the political spotlight spin on the northwest of England today with trees in a holding her 1st regional cabinet meeting in Washington a multi-million pound cash injection has been announced to boost the so-called northern powerhouse I've been catching up with the comedian and activist Mark Thomas whose current show is focused on the industrial north but comedian activist I got this title right which comes 1st well I don't know whether it is I don't know whether is. Because the stuff I do know is so far away from stand up the shows I do a sort of mix of theater and storytelling and comedy and activism and journalism and it's a big mix of it all I always tell people if if if you want to see stand up don't come see me. The logic would stand up to my sympathy for was gone soon so the current show that you're going to shed he's not standup but it's a show it's theater it won a fair to award it was into something I knew no one wanted records is there on the home page of your website clearly that is very important to you. Rightly so well the Stage one was really great for unique contribution which is a lot of nice thing to win it's a special award they call it kind of legitimizes you know why the stuff that I do are not stand up I'm not proper theatre you know what I mean I'm not proper journalism it's a mix of all these different things. That was kind of like it was like then yeah yeah we dig what you do scoot for anyone who comes in to watch the current or the red shed which describes this Labor Club in Wakefield in West Yorkshire yeah what it is they're not going to come in sit down and you're going to stand out there with a microphone walk up and down and tell stories what are they going to see what are they going to experience the red shed let me tell about red shed it's a $47.00 foot long wooden single storey socially shared it was 50 this September just gone and the thing about it was our 1st start to perform there in public so I used to go and do shows me a mix of brightly shows we'd go and perform and we'd write them in a day and they were for to raise money for campaigns and you know courses that were going on at the time. And we used to perform in the back room of the shed it was 21 foot long back room and when we were our voice gone they're always going back to the place I went up there to talk to people about the 50th anniversary remembered a story and what it was was on the last day of the miners' strike the miners marched back to work and I was invited to attend one of the March backs and I was right at the back and there's a banners and the brass band at the front the miners marched through the village back to the colliery and. When we were marching for the village one of the things we do we go past the primary school as well as old Victorian primary schools and there are kids in the playground and the kids who are no no older than 10 are singing to the miners and they're singing through the bars and they're singing Solidarity forever and this singing to their dads and their brothers and all of that and it's a really important memory and what I went back to start to organize the speaker and the events that we're going to have to celebrate the shirts 50th anniversary I remember that story on and decided that we live in a world where fact and fiction and truth and narrative are just poof we've just detonated them all so I wanted to find out how much of my story was true so I decided I was going to find the school I was going to fall in that village I was going to find those children in the playground and see if my story is true and so the show is the story of me I'm on my face trying to find that school and those children and how we go through all those bits of you share. A forgotten the base of working class communities that are left frankly to rot in some cases and. How they've never recovered from the strike and so it's a really interesting for me that's the story of what people see is I asked people to sing and join in and share and might noises and it's huge fun you have always been plugged in to communities outside the metropolitan bubble and this is what everybody else is now saying has not happened over the past 5 or 10 years which is why we've seen the rise now explain longer than the new record is longer than that I think people have got to remember that actually there's been you know if you go up to Barnsley and you know there are places like Grimethorpe which were a boy word for working class respectability you know growing thought colliery band you know your uniform had to be impeccable you know you do there was a big emphasis on the community and you know our member got up to speak in Barnsley . For the 20th anniversary of the miners' strike and there was a beginning of the rise of the British National Party and my mind came up with said you know they wouldn't exist if the end you are still here and I think what we've seen is you've seen this communities with a real sense of identity and a real sense of well they still have a sense of identity a real sense of collective identity and a collective purpose those have been shattered but I think certainly if you look at those communities and you have to look at a whole range of things a whole range of things. The trade unions Royce there are about. Forcing possed a minimum wage get rid of 0 contracts. Actually I mean have to look at re nationalizing the railways renationalise and utilities. And actually I think he's a really you know those are the buy 6 those are the bread and butter by 6 that need to be worked upon in council houses people need to build council houses. You might remember the. Lovely things and they didn't have the stigma that is often attached to them you know the show to Thomas his current tour is called the red shed he's on tour right throughout the month of dates into March as well for marking just. You we all the starship. Thomas comedian in fact a this is my guest tonight you're all dudes model fascinated to know who comes to see the chops and the girls that I talk to on the program deep do you know what you're going to see when you look out at your audience do you have a type. But I think it changes actually it changes all the time and it changes from show to show and gig to gig. So you know you can go down to La and live a poll I would apply to live Paul every man you're pretty much guaranteed you know a good sort of working class audience actually because Liverpool has got a history of very much a working class Thea there are no radical cultural thing you go to somewhere like Edinburgh the Edinburgh Festival or people aren't exactly you know clasping the whole reheard sons of the soil by the Palm when you walk in. Is generalizing but I like to think you get a mix of everyone in the gigs people at some time so you know look you know you just preach to the converted or you lefties and I did a show called The manifesto I remember where I'd asked people to put forward ideas to change the world and every geek literally every gig someone put bring back hanging right so you bring back I'll do it myself people who don't pick up after the dogs. Well them hang them you know there's all that kind of stuff and it got to the point where I just went out I would bring back hanging but would do on a voluntary basis so if you're in favor of the death penalty you sign up and say I approve of the death penalty and then if you do something bad will kill you. That seems the fairest way to do it. It is very weird because you would never know who you'd get you know because the number of ideas that came out was showed different and so that I met someone in the one of the 1st shows I did said anyone who gets under for g.c.s.e. Should be sterilized. As I said Who put this in and this bloke said I did it was it hard as for what I did I didn't want to do for a living he said I'm a teacher. I just said Right so you want to sterilize people you file. I don't know do you think about that preaching to the giver to the do you feel having done this for many many many years that that there are you're shouting and you make a lot of noise and people are coming to see you who agree with you but that message isn't getting across in the way oh I don't think that people I don't think it is people just come along to people or group me it's all I think. You know in a very weird thing. And no one has a particular judged on the left because no one says that to Jim Davidson Oh I think you know when you come and see a show you want to sue story you want to see something you don't know about something that illuminates something. When I go and perform in the Tron Theatre in Glasgow are after doing the red shirt there we're doing a collection for striking workers outside and this woman just kind of grabbed me and said I'm a miner's daughter and you've just told my story and that's the best review you can get. You know actually to represent real people's stories on stage is a real thing to have people's stories up there is a really important thing to show we've been talking about is the red shed picks up again of beginning of February in Sterling goes around Scotland dates in. Sheffield in Coventry I've got to dates running right through just a little breeze places. I mean you are everywhere looking at it yeah there are marriage Eastley the castle Well I think that the noise thing about the show is that it has been designed so that it is a community show so people feel a sense of community and I love the fact you know I always got sort of signed books and chats folk after the gig. Big partly because my tour manager as to the rig everything can get all the props there and loaded into the van and I've not got much to do. So but I always there's a really that's always one of the best moments is getting to chat to people afterwards and see their reactions to the show. And it is they does change from place to place like in Liverpool of Glasgow standing ovation brilliant Chelton I'm chilled did not have that reaction how do you go down that entire bridge whales watch umbrage wells are actually quite like the temperature rose has actually got a very good fear there they've also got some remarkably good charity shops in Tunbridge Wells So I don't knock it. As Southampton actually was the weirdest one somebody came up to me after just one arm a Tory and. I was expecting more stand up I just went Well I don't have a complaints department. You know I mean you know you know you came to see summit you didn't like it that's what happens you know if you go and see a movie you don't like to write cinema. You know this is what I expected. Another gig it was in South and spoke to me is that I haven't seen your show I said What are you doing here he said well you know I'm on the council I just sort of pop in and say I love Schama Tory I love that show I had the privilege of meeting us it was probably best she didn't see the shot comedian activist Mark Thomas who quite happily says the show isn't for everyone. But you. Tried by details on August 7th we talk about usual our social media at Mark for show on Twitter Facebook dot com for Slash pop for a show on Facebook member you can was respond to you here via email via text 5 minutes mark b.b.c. To you k 812 trouble free on the text starting the message Mark and you can go 34538058. Back to Golden k. He was best known for his role in the long running b.b.c. . Sitcom. Has died aged $75.00 k. Played cafe owner Ronnie Artois on the hit show which centered on the fictional exploits of resistance fighters in World War 2 in German occupied France he appeared in 084 episodes of the sitcom as well as a stage version here is speaking to Sue Lawley on Radio 4 s Desert Island Discs in 1991 she asked him if it's difficult to imagine life without Rene It is hard yes but one of the things that we have noticed or that I noticed early on because I'm from Yorkshire. And in rehearsals my own voice I will say things that way and that is go into the script really actually says because as in France or as in Yorkshire they don't pronounce the rages do you think you hide behind the apron and the accent a bit does Gordon hide behind Renee certainly does in terms of after dinner in the 1st time imagine after the speech was in 1907 just as does not interest you don't do about 10 minutes and do it is ready they love that and I've never done one before. And I went to the greenhouse or town and they have a v.i.p. Reception before and on the top table was to be Mr and Mrs Charlton Heston and she was my partner Mr Mrs Elton John Mr Mrs Does it count. Goodness me I've got to stand up and speak. And it actually ran for 14 minutes but you didn't have to stand up and speak well in a glen that's going to I mean in the green. The act of God and Kate are going to Sue Lawley on Desert Island Discs he passed away in a care home this morning at the age of 75 now in a moment I mean from b.b.c. Introducing it to mother just after half past 9 one of my favorite performers in the studio to talk about her music or what makes her tick and then one of the most interesting stories of the day a man who has just finished a cycle from Land's End to John O'Groats her so what you cry it's been done a 1000 times before. But not from the comfort of. Sitting room which is what this guy has managed to do. As you're about to hit him. In. 50. 6. 3. 6. But Ace echoes of my mind from Kareena Jane she's a Franco British singer songwriter I've been reading a biography Kareena Welcome to the show how are you I'm not to bad thinking it's up yet really good I say about stuff but actually you did most of your growing up where in Germany at shows born in Germany in a small town call mindon which is in north wind that's Fadia and Sandy Hanifa And yeah I just grew up in a small little town that everybody knew each other and went to German school and had my French and my English dad so I was a bit of a a kind of mixed European feel really good news by the age of 6 how many languages could you speak 3 was very lucky is all about kind of being in the say the right time in the right place and the right parents so French and English parents but in Germany what are your family that so my dad basically went for a German company and and so my parents made that the eighty's and I was born in the ninety's and until my growing up that I went to Gemma kindergarten and and she just learned German just by being in the schools and before the age of 3 I couldn't speak a word and then it then it became I think in language for many years until Sunday evening that when I was 8 and then it all kind of got reversed. Yeah don't you wish it was as easy to learn things you know 28 or 30 as it was 3 just seems to happen by osmosis so that I love it I know it's funny really I think every child could learn a language and I know we did and they learn English marry young Asians about time they get to 18 they speak better English and love natives do and I think there is something to be said about bringing languages when kids are younger because like you say you've got that sponge of a brain to to do that with let's hope Justin Green is listening to our conversation right now the secretary state education should make it happen I say say no thank you so you're back here when I say here where did you end up signing up in will prompt and how much did this sort of slightly peripatetic childhood affect your music when you actually came to make music Well the thing is I was very fortunate to have a dad that was very very into pop music say he inflicts me with m.t.v. Growing up and I member Saturday mornings dancing around the living room to all the latest video on t.v. At the time and then we had little soul sing songs around the piano. Growing up a little bit kind of on chat family but maybe not quite as easy and you know singing all songs like streets of London which is a song I like to cover sometimes now at gigs. And then my mom took me to piano lessons when I was 5 because I spent a lot of time picking out melodies by air as a toddler and just always going to the piano and then start composing stuff at 6 but really doing lyrics and melodies and singing a lot of stuff ready when I was 12 and I guess having all the pop music influences from all these different countries definitely had an impact on the kind of stuff I was making up myself time to hear another tune right now I'm talking to Krycek on the show tonight this is 3 faces of you tell me a bit about this Ok so with this particular song I wanted to write something a bit fun and beat but was kind of quite feisty at the same time and it was really about Sonny so neither. I had a real kind of case of spit past ninety's news never knew a state and I just all right had enough of. This type of the face of you really came from a psychological study that I did a lot about when I was doing my a levels and about woman who had the story didn't pass not. Make a good song title 3 places. She says few. Things. Like. Oh. No. Pretty faces of you that's from Corona Jane I received her music via b.b.c. Introducing and she's in our Northampton she studio joining us on the show right now you said current you were composing 6 and adding lyrics at age 12 What on earth we are writing about when you were 12 years old. The thing is I mean when you're 12 really think that you cite growing up in your head and that no one understands that you are you know a more mature than you yes but but actually I think the 1st song I write with lyrics was a song called stork and it was you know my darling I know I don't know how this guy got in my head but it was one of these things where I think my mum was what she I'm a dad and I was his whole story lied about Stuka and somehow it we really influenced me to write this this song that was sort of about being in love with somebody but I don't think I quite and even meaning of the well I didn't quite think Duck what 12 year all these types of got a lot to answer. Oh my goodness and career highlight today because clearly things go really well if you will having to choose you get employed or live in the place but what has. And most to you so far Well it's typical to say I could always get these little triumphs on the way and you would go yes that's great and you get excited I mean even you know be being paid on this show and and maybe 6 as the national play was a very exciting moment for me because as a fast on my head one of my songs being Go Pro cross across the nation rather than just like lies placed on the Internet and for me as well the gigs of the radio an important thing I mean last year really lucky to support a band that quite big in the fight it's Tea Party and and it was just a great night because that the whole venue was packed it was in the new not Center as beautiful venue that and you know I was fascinated by green room and dressing the patent office wow this is this is a taste of what I'd like to come next and it was great as I have this really fantastic big audience reprieve. And it was on his mind so I thought wow you know 3 years ago I was doing a lot of open mikes and I could pop gigs and trying to just perform more and more and more and then he was my band and you know I supporting a band that quite doing big things I just though you know this is this is really what it's about what it's about and that was courage great to get a ring if you want to know more about her in a him or her music follow the links at Facebook dot com for slash mark for a show. Hope she gets the break she deserves becomes a huge star. Now if someone told you you had to. Cycle from Land's End to John a groat from an exercise bike in your living room will you probably think it sounded a little bit dull but one man reckons he's found a way to make it positively fun using virtual reality Joining me now is video game programmer Aaron Pusey creator of cycle v. Our Hi Ira How are you how I mark I'm very well how are you yeah really good tell me what you did and how you did it right so I cycled the entire length of Britain went on to join a group in virtual reality and I did that by creating a little app for my for my mobile phone. And the way it works is it downloads Google Street View data and turns it into 3 d. And then I've got a little sensor on my just a standard exercise bike that tells me how fast on turning my pedals and that governs how quickly I move through the through my virtual reality experience so they wind you front room on your exercise bike your v.c.r. Headset on what did you see use you wrote in how to control where you went well it's like when you go on to Google Maps and you may want directions to somewhere I'm just putting in a stop point an end point and it takes me along the path so I don't really have to steer at all which is great because I can just sit back and just go my legs and I move along and look at some great scenery and assume some wonderful things and some some amazing sights along the way like walk. Besides the obvious tourist spots a room Joy going to places like Bristol and push or countryside and on the Lake District and things like that it's it's a human connection where you see people in the in the shot doing funny things that you would expect so my favorite one was this poor woman was in the countryside just walking along it was early morning and she's in her pajamas and her Wellington boots taking a dog for a walk and she's got a great big bed here and totally unexpected Google catechising but I'm requite sorry for this woman because she's blasted across the Internet now so. Sorry this is the terrifying thing about Google not here because if you happen to be there when streetcar went past you all that forever you're there forever here Oh my goodness and I have another go other story the 2nd favorite shot I think was a sort of punch up in the main street of Edinburgh and that's that on the street it's it's all they go there I've got a collection of all these things that I've seen along the way on my blog you can go there and click on them and it'll take you directly to where I saw them I can see the punch up it's that by the hair a little dog curled up on the doorstep you know beautiful beautiful. How did you choose your route. It was. It was just out of Atlanta and join a group because it's a famous journey to do so I literally just put in those 2 endpoints into into Google Maps and selected cycle please rather than drive because when you so I could cycle it selects a different different route you know don't take you down the the I want to rethink them wondering and when you really immersive we were able to actually feel that you were not in your living room it's it's real enough that after probably 10 minutes and you just relax your your brain a bit you complete me all right anyway completely forget that I'm in my living room and there have been times when half an hours passed and I really feel like I've been somewhere else and it genuinely feels like I've spent the last 8 months down in England and Scotland traveling the whole country that's how long it took 8 months I mean how how how much per day did you put aside to cycle Well I'm lazy so not that much. Moms. I was usually doing about 3 days a week something like that of about an hour a day so this is a journey that took 85 hours for the whole thing goodness gracious and using the Google Maps cycle route how far is it. It's 1500 kilometers or about 930 miles. Could you could you go anywhere in the world doing the same thing could you say anywhere looking at Australia as I mean anywhere the Google cars being I can go there's obviously some areas in the world you can go like Antarctica for instance but somewhere of the Google cars then you can go so what's next. Well. What I really want to do is turn this into something that everyone can enjoy so I would like to perhaps start a Kickstarter or some other and make it like a virtual reality kit if you like with people could buy and do the same thing go anywhere in the boat but beyond that I might quite Let's try another adventure somewhere else or perhaps Japan. But because I've always wanted to go there are quite like to go Japan. Such a fast especially when you got your bike with you said just text I hope. Good luck with that and with the Kickstarter campaign as well keep an eye on you and well I guess no subtle source either if you're only doing half an hour 3 days a week no and the great thing is I can stop whenever I want so I'm going get a beer or something that's the way to. Go from groet. a great night. We've seen your kind of. Things we've come. It's history. And that's. Nothing to say. If it makes you. His day. You've come to shake my head. When. You hit him a chance. Of seeing his hand was. On . His.