Share with Sarah Walker in May and surprise you to learn that I barely had a wink of sleep last night what's happened the spider is still loose in the batch job you know I can't find it I can't park if you miss into the listening to the show yesterday you'll know that at 10 past 6 yesterday morning a spider came and sat on my face and despite the fact that I tried to bet it away with my fairly hefty human hand it still wouldn't move and then scurried away underneath the bed somewhere so last night I decided to sleep on the other side of the bed because obviously spiders can't. Move quickly and now I'm worried because you know if you've got that fear that slight fear of a spider that's gone missing you always assume immediately it's going to go run off and have babies a multiplier you know what I didn't want to buy is the 1st thing I thought about it's nothing in the shape of the boats that want to wing that you somehow got I'm going to make the bed I'm going to find loads of eggs something I got a call to sleep that's when I cannot sleep back in that bed and so much about thing down why don't you swap beds one of the kids smile and go into what I could do although it does make me sleep in a child single but I mean I take. You with maybe you're right it's right weather today cloud is going to give way to some sunny bell this morning there is a chance of emotion was a softening there and it's going to stay breezy throughout today of 19 degrees Celsius that 66 in found height mainly dryness the evening and we are going to see some late spells of sunshine morning then this morning we are going to look back at the biggest demonstration this area has ever seen through the eyes of 100 women who would link to it I'm talking about the Greenham Common pace camp which ran from 1009 he won all the way through until 2000 this morning going to meet the woman who 1st found ourselves at the peace camp at the tender age of 5 but was so moved by it she's now making it her mission to keep the memory alive will catch up with the next. Election story. This may be seen radio a swimming costume which his wife my mother. Had actually 98 for. She got the pattern at the Woman's Weekly. And I can see it now it was on a dinky Archer stage I'd threaded round the waist and clearly visible was a white Nick or elastic I just love the pink sissy pines comedian and poet Pam as all Michelle in the next 30 minutes 1st though this time 30 years ago a small village in boxes found itself at the center of a global political crisis that put the eyes of the world on a small f.e held at Greenham the destination of the protesters was the aria face agreement common in Boca one of a number of sites chosen for the deployment of cruise missiles in Britain the women of Greenham Common now permanently camped at the base got the deployment of troops as a turning point in the nuclear deterrent all game and the reason the missiles are regarded as 1st strike weapons the peace campaign is feared just that a 1st strike in a so-called limited nuclear war in Europe these or even common has become the front line in the campaign. To prevent the deployment of the B'soyeros the Greenham Common women's peace camp was a series of demonstrations held from 1981 all the way to 2000 protesting about the installments of nuclear weapons. In Greenham and in the 19 years that the camp stood its attracted hundreds of women from around the country including notable figures like Jermaine Graham and Yoko Ono will next week the stories of these women are being retold in a special talk by some interviews with more than 100 Greenham protesters and those connected to the camp the woman behind it all is Rebecca Morton who joins me now your introduction to the Greenham Common women's peace camp came very very early didn't talk to me about that 1st of all Rebecca Yes it did I was very fortunate my mom was a c.n.d. Supporter says she was supporting the campaign and we lived locally lived in Camberley and she took me when I was about 5 to the camp really regularly so we would visit we take supplies we would hang out with the women and support they were doing and we also went on some really really big action as they did an amazing action way before the days of mobile phones or the Internet or anything they managed to get 30000 women and girls to do an action they called Embrace the base where they held hands around the entire 9 mile fence of the military base and I was in that in that circle so yeah mind my my early memories of the women and the peace come a really intense and and really set me on a on a road for kind of campaigning and being interested in women's rights myself and peace and how were you able to process what was going on at the age of 5 How were you able to make sense of it well my parents were the people we were working around and campaigning with were very very very good with children and very open about their own in a very gentle way they would explain their concerns and what they were doing and offer me the chance to can be part of that would be you know I ought to have a baby sitter's that I ever wanted to but the the fear in general. In the culture that I grew up in of the bomb was so visceral it's it's really similar to what children strike about at school now in terms of climate change and it was a really prevalent anxiety that every want to shatter was part of the culture and climate that you that you grew up in that the fear of the bomb and of of annihilation through nuclear strike was very real and so I think that having a kind of reasoned and humane conversation about what we could do about that and why why we might peacefully protest or say not in my name all felt very sensible to me it felt like one earth wouldn't everyone want to fly over and want to be at the peace camp and try and save the world I suppose is for me that you mention climate change as having a conversation with my 9 year olds just yesterday actually and he was he was telling me that he felt was that he was suffering from anxiety because I've been talking about it at school and I said to him Well what are you actually about and he said Well climate change and that sense of something huge which could threaten our very existence but as a child you also have that firm belief that actually you could do something about it and it is that kind of how you felt when you were there as well yeah absolutely absolutely and that it was completely worth talking to everyone and I thought if you just reached out you could change minds but that wasn't just made a thing of the women we've interviewed talk about the fact that they made some really interesting relationships with gods and an army and police officers who were behind the fence if you like and they that their actual military camp did change the policy and had to move staff stall frowned every 6 weeks because sometimes they were becoming swayed by the Queen in women's arguments so I think that sense that we have as children of you know we can make this difference is actually sometimes based in reality and it's to be listened to in a sense it's a good instinct there are some real snapshots and time that you can still remember now will come and talk about your parents' role in it some in a moment and some of. Training that I had to receive which must been quite frightening to witness but taught me about sitting at the roadside with a woman oh so what my experience of the camp used when there was a big action was this of general fairly friendly hubbub of daily life and one of the things that when used to day was they would sit with their sign is by the side of the right that people were going past could get a sense of why they were in with their people driving past because there was some positive media but a lot of the media was very very aggressive about the women and really dismissive and used time honored sexist ways of trying to put them down calling them dirty lesbians and we tried very dismissive of the Bolsheviks and things like that and so they would sit there quietly and find bin if I friendly way with their signs that said hope for peace or you know a green women for the for the good of humanity sort of thing and and they'd wave at the cars things and I loved sitting there with them and saying he was such a life lesson to see who drive past and and waved and honked or stopped and brought provisions or or some at recruitment or Fiedel or or or wooden things they needed or people that you know I swore at them or were aggressive which was I have so much less but it was very interesting and it made me go oh this is the world where it and this is how people react to this very peaceful friendly group of women who were very interesting really interesting life lesson at the age of 5 for goodness sake will come on to talk a little bit more detail in a moment about some of your other recollections of the time and also about the project that your involved in that's coming head next week after the Supremes This is Baby Love on b.b.c. Radio about she loved this is cause the past 10 years of mourning. The Supremes and Baby Love on b.b.c. Radio barks this 7 say minutes past 10 a brilliant uplifting song on the way in a 2nd from the me radicals 1st that we're going back in time to the biggest demonstration that this area has ever seen the Greenham Common peace camp and we're hearing from Rebecca who is involved in a project really interviewing 100 women who have somehow been in connection with the Greenham Common peace camp either directly as protesters or observers I suppose more comments about in a moment Rebecca but we're talking about your own personal memories of it which you were introduced to at the age of 5 Your parents were local c.n.d. Supporters and in any being in that position they needed training didn't they tell me a little bit about that because that must mean frightening to witness. That was really interesting one of the things that the green women did was go and visit friendly local groups for those women's groups feminist groups whether they were peace activist groups like sea and they provide them with what it was was it was envy training which is nonviolent direct action training so this is what the women were doing at the camp they were doing creative peaceful protest where that was lying down doing Dion's in front of vehicles whether it was covering the at the fence with Webb what it was actually cutting into the camp and drawing peace symbols on the plains there are different degrees to which different women would guy and obstructing people moving trees missiles around in a peaceful way was one of the actions that people often joined and I can in my parents and their their friends in this local Sandy great having a green woman come to that that great an evening and teach them how that was the role play with them how that would work how they would resist peacefully might their bodies have a lie down and not resist not be confrontational to police even if they're being moved or dragged but of course also role playing that the place might not be on confrontation with them and the ways in which they might be handled by the police in that role play that being things I can remember them getting it being very emotional for them to go through and oversee emotional to watch but also it was very well processed my parents were very good at talking to me about it all and on the green and women will say very very connective and I certainly didn't go on any of the actions they did that separately to my mom to theirs and I to my dad looked after me but your mom was actually arrested wasn't she and that must have been. Interesting for you because as a child you have this absolute fear of the establishment this fair of the police coming to tell you also how were you able to process that when it happened I don't think I had that fair because we were already doing these actions where which where people in a very very non-confrontational way literally one of the things you do in Nevada traction is not necessarily accept the authority of someone if you think they're wrong so you know when the. You know when went to court that defense was self-defense you know I did this to protect myself and all humanity so I think the idea of questioning structures of authority not just accepting them as you know as as verbatim was sort of instilled in me quite young so it seemed perfectly rational that my mum for the safety of May and everyone else on the planet would unite peacefully and without violence try to draw attention to x. If she felt dangerous and then you know she might well go to court and not tell the judge that her martial status and get a higher fine and maybe serve some prison time I should have to do that she just paid the fine but lots of the women were going to prison and she told me about her role in that and the woman that she had my doing even more very proudly and I was very proud of her it was your mom who had vastly inspired this project which we've now become involved in tell me why well my mum was absolutely radicalized by Queen and her life so you many women and one of the things it did is even if you went thinking that you're going as a piece that was a you very quickly radicalized by the all female environment and it became a very intersectional way to look at how all different sort of parts of your life as a woman were affected by a supplement to patriarchy things that really changed generation of women and it changed how my mum brought me up it changed I think is the best part of her parenting and I'm hugely grateful to her my father for supporting the camp and taking on those lessons and carrying Greenham home and then about 7 years ago she died which is was a real was. Very very hard on us and very very sad and felt much to stay and then a couple of years ago one of the founders of Greenham who was much more key to the come the my my mum was just you know local supporter but a woman called Helen John who was one of the founders who are 9 from working as a young adult with Sandy in the peace movement she also died and I just thought you know I'm 43 I'm speaking to people younger than me and they've no idea this even happened. And yet it was this huge but anyone older than me it was a radically radicalized that generation they have strong feelings about with their positive or negative and why is it not dialogue happening between the generations and it's cultural rubber if we don't hand this on to younger people especially facing climate change and inspire a new inspired nuclear threat as they are so you were involved in a talk which is based on interviews with a 100 people connected to those Greenham protests and in all of those interviews I suppose some key themes emerge and just very quickly I just want to focus on one of those things which is really interesting and that is the role of all of the people of grain and how they reacted to the protesters because the interviews of generated some interesting stories around that yeah absolutely the it was a very mixed reaction as my experience of seeing by the raids of so Shay's there are some stories of really wonderful support There's a cafe that not just let the Green women in in the local in that I could tell but also let them get says news it's Bartha things because of a city they were living outside in all weathers with no running water or proper toilets and things that are uncertain are showers so there is a really lot who went above and beyond for them and then and then there was a Little Chef that wouldn't let them in and you know that the people likely and people in support of the camp organized a national campaign to you too little chef until into the local branch would let them in and it worked so there's lovely things like that and then there's slightly more upsetting things I think I know that there is. There's a group of women who lived there they didn't they had camps like they call them by color so there's a blue gate and each color has its own personality and the blue guy is very well in class very lesbian quite young quite a party gate and they got a lot of stick from the locals because they're the most obviously out gay kind of gate and they had a tepee they slept in at the in the. View of the gate and that a tin can orange chocolates to the Big 10 of of markets right into it while there was sleep one night and that didn't succeed in getting rid of those the next night they threw in a banning rag in a tin and bought the whole thing down and the women you know Lucky got each other out but there was a strength of of negative likely feeling as well unfortunately I have to say again it was it was very very mixed Rebecca it's been fascinating story this morning thank you so much for joining us and good luck with the toll which happens awake at the Greenham control tower that's Rebecca Morton on b.b.c. Radio you trust on the way the latest b.b.c. Sports with a media weather forecast as well off of this from the brilliantly radicals it's get what you gave on b.b.c. Full seems to be did $25.00 as a. Junction 16 for the m. 14 a bit slow pulsing 124-3322 coming up into Brock is looking very slow again this morning it's coming off. 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Slash function. It's the radio watch sport 1030 disappointment for reading last night eighties here yet very much so lost against the walls for 2 in a penalty shootout that was a milli Cup 3rd round as you say more than you know last night in the course back in the chairmanship this weekend Joe di go miss or travel to Swanzy on the back of 3 straight league defeats the lads currently 20th in the league table Shaughnessy they're flying high their 2nd after winning 5 of their opening fixtures disappoint me last night for May I was Ok I was always going to win 21 and there's a heading but you know. It was a tough one last night I think because whatever Joe's I go in is did here unless he got the result it was the wrong thing to do when it's just interesting to know what is thinking walls making so many change and changes was he making that many changes because he was disappointed with the performance up until that point so was he making that many changes because he's not serious about the Karabakh up. I don't think that would be the option I think you know he's made that changes because he's got a played a lot for Charlie Adam he's going to play the likes of Lucas boy a yak you might say you know these players who haven't played much Tom I can tell he's played a few actually was the only one funny enough to accept his place from the defeat against Blackburn but you know in goal Joe Virginia he made a hell after 27 minutes 19 years of a year you know is it the right time to play was going to play you don't learn from Everton until the end of the season what with the Everton manager what with the Everton you know backroom staff think the chairman the owners thinking when I go in it will only need this goalkeeper for the season you know even playing him in the League Cup yeah unless you get a result I think you're on a hiding to nothing I really do but you know wolves go on now into the 4th round by they play Aston Villa in the fall from now there was one surprise last not one short League One side Oxford United just down the road at the Kassam stadium they'd be. West Ham for Neal could you imagine been in that West Ham dressing room when I mean West Ham a flowing high in the Premier League I think you know they're in the top 6 I think they're 5th in the Premier League table cause they might try and use but Oaks would comfortable with a loss not f.a. Sunderland in the fall for and you can go on to the b.b.c. Sport web so the for for for a draw is all net and your cause a lot of been drinking water all morning might be off the problem probably elsewhere or let me tell you what's going on in the world of horse racing. Hughie Morrison he said I was delighted bref in the big race the diet new market 12 runners in the feature 6 of which are trained here in New England coach Eddie Jones says they'll make a brighter star against the USA to small in the night did against Tonga joins us might tend to find is just like Gomez last night 10 changes for the Rugby World Cup match that kicks off $1145.00 full of commentary England against the USA b.b.c. 5 live in Pool be the only other game going on in Japan so I Italy that currently taking on Canada a few moments ago Italy leading $36.00 points to follow I have almost overrun about 10 minutes for a minute like I'm poets and comedian Pam is on the show with us in the next 15 minutes and also with the collapse of Thomas Cook what becomes of the crumbs when I travel for Boston going to get an insight into how these things work out the genset some p.b.c. Ready. For. Kids . To. Told we'll. Just. In a 2nd 1st like Thomas Cook's demise continues to make the headlines as thousands of holiday makers continue to be repatriated to the u.k. Because the company says trading on Monday thousands of staff losing their jobs as a result but what happens to the planes used by Thomas Cook why I come they now be used to fly people home John Strickland is an aviation expert from J.L.'s consulting and joins me now while the whole Thomas Cook thing does gentlemen is shines the light on how eco and how travel companies use aircraft and the fact that very often I don't actually own these things out right. That's right and indeed many times around the world or the quarter least actor asked. Berti massive companies giant companies that own hundreds of x. Which wouldn't be known to people the public generally speaking last year in the industry and they let the secretary out short or long lines around the world now the main reason for that is a question of course highly expensive assets to a car or some airlines don't have the financial resources and sisters street and put out a deposit all pay for tax rafts and $1.00 way around that is to release an equity is so much as much like what you would I put perhaps rent a car rather than buy a car it's impossible amount. To use Yeah craft and the other factor is that not all airlines can keep up as you know you know this is one of the picture allergies that Thomas Cook out it was very busy throughout the summer really when it was because you know winter if you own access you're stuck with 3 planes themselves and the crews who weren't doing very little if anything but your costs are still there have a massive cost of ownership if you rent you can maybe rent for example just for 7 months so how much doesn't cost cost I realize that I mean there must be a a wide range here but either way rough. And how much would a 737 or 7 full 7 set you back I mean as you said it depends very much on the type of aircraft the size and even how do you get is it getting sick cause or best analogy you know getting a brand new. You know high pitch cowardice your decision should I let you because get me much more expensive than having a. An old banger so to speak you have to hope we don't have to as in the case of the aircraft that aging capacity make a difference but you're talking about hundreds of millions of pounds typically 2 to interact craft but these big police kept his existence that got so as established a the many decades have an enormous amount of buying power they can go into x. Manufacturers like Airbus Boeing and use a weight to a quiet got to buy them at much reduced prices maybe 30 to even 50 percent off the official tariff which a small airline doesn't have any chance to do then that can help them in terms of putting out was acting to mock you place to potential and customers at competitive rates so in the case of Thomas Cook just finally who I think had something like 30 full cost the guy back to hang out belonging to this company that owns them and will be presumably leased out to another airline at some point yes and then release companies will look to repossess has access to this this is why the aircraft carrier will be used to continue operations the sad thing is it's partly about regulation we don't have a regulator East like you u.k. That allows us. To keep trading in a kind of what is called it ministration process much like you have in bankruptcy is in some other industries we've heard this same week that the airline the topical Callen in Germany condo is still flying there is a different regulator set out to continue with even had but Yemeni government being willing to put a bridging loan in there to keep at it and trying to they get to be looking for a new owner of that the aircraft here. Soon as the air. That insult went to Saturday because it was the address of our people. But he kept his what was accurate back that Carter was get because. Of my case I think that I was funny for landing charges they were going to try to pull a sack up his head about severed it was a vestige of traction in front of the actress and I want to visit kidneys eventually get their money back to what we were I would only take that money back really interesting stuff don't thank you that's John Strickland the aviation experts from j.l. S. Consulting It's coming up to a quarter to 11 this is the new wall men from Jack several Jack educated at one of the world's most expensive private schools in Switzerland apparently Lelie fees top 70000 pounds I mean what you get for that here is then with greatest mistake Pam as on the way off the base is b.b.c. Radio box. Sitting on the edge of another day. Waiting on the Love that jacks have resi greatest mistake on b.b.c. Radio barks in our unique brand of comedy has had audiences falling about for over 40 years the poet and comedian Pam Ayres 1st came to the nation's attention after an appearance on Opportunity knocks back in 1975 now she's heading out on Saul bringing us more weighty verse like this about her husband sleeping habits while the wireless nor a bit that was I couldn't say no or told I suppose when I get going you could hear me down the hall for my husband is remarkable historically so loud that Billy's our bedroom window is attracting quite a crowd was she was has a new collection of verse published today she's with me now what do you carry around a notebook with Pam when you need to if you struck by observational things because observation is so much a cornerstone of your work do you just write stuff down all the time Hello Sarah. Well I don't really carry a notebook Bob usually got an i Phone and I send myself an emo if I get a good idea and particularly if it's an idea that has a nice or a rhythm to it I I send myself an email or Mark recorder and send it to myself because they're very easy to forget yes because I'm wondering what comes 1st the source of the observation all the poem. While it can very very rarely I find myself in a situation or I read something or overhear something very often it's finding yourself in a situation and I just get this feelin And I think or I could probably have a go right into something about that that's a good subject and it's a really nice mischievous sort of feeling I might be able to do something with it that would make people laugh Yeah I was going to say you so much of your your comedy is is observational bringing in your own family as we heard that they get fed up to be in the bottom of your jokes sometimes oh I don't think so no I mean the person who deserves to get fed up is my husband Dudley because he's always got in the flat absolutely bomb proof you know he's you know it's not it's not cruel and he knows that you can't just pick comedy out of the thin air Yeah you have to get it from somewhere or somebody and so like that snore in thing he doesn't mind and everybody understands that anyway the the way you drive people nuts when you snore or other people drive you nuts so I could I kind of a made him but it's for everybody really you're about to head off on a 3 month toll which is taking you all over the place going to be at the wanted to literary festival on the 26th of October that's the place I mean yes yes. Go on what we're going to say I was going to say Oxford playhouse as well I mean Oxford playhouse as well art of. Sometime soon is the 10th of November and I think if I can fairly you know show you where you are right now. Find that there are geographical differences just finally in terms of what audiences find funny when you know travel up and out the country I don't care I have got a very simple approach I think if something is genuinely funny and applies to most people then people laugh I don't find any fluctuation really if something's genuinely funny. Well. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow Wow. Wow. Wow Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow Wow. Wow. Stuff on b.b.c. Radio about she let's go back to 9909 then shall we this song was banned from the Internet by China's Ministry of Culture as the Backstreet Boys. With. Us. Lol. Lol. Lol. Lol. Lol. Good morning. 64. Around. 100. We look ahead to b.b.c. Radio. Voices this. B.b.c. Radio barks a so Levin a call could the b.b.c. News seashell at Winfield the speaker of the commons John Bercow has condemned what he calls toxic culture in Parliament yesterday Boris Johnson was criticised v.z. Informant who language just such a surrender and betrayal Mr Burke I said the behavior of M.P.'s has done the no credit all signs to approach the debates as opponents rather than enemies there was . An atmosphere in the chamber. Worse than any I've known in my 22 years in the house on both sides passions were inflamed angry words were uttered. The culture. Was toxic which Benyon the m.p. For new braces yesterday's rally in Parliament continues to echo the divisions over breakfast in the country at large but what you've got in home and is representing what is going on out there in the country had a 5248 percent referendum in Parliament very small number of extreme anti breaks it is on the other end you've got the extreme backstairs America no majority but even a vase position so the only way forward is a compromise foods does have stolen 3000 pounds from a church he knew very they prized his church offices and withdrew the money from the same Mary's bank account the Church admitted to account information was too easy to guess and has now got its money back the revenue Marion would say she still can't believe someone would do that you don't steal from the church is a bit like stealing from the collection plate it's just such a thought that was a real no no but obviously people target churches yes makes me quite quite angry but also quite wary because we're obviously responsible for donations the churches bank spaces protecting customers is its top priority. The proportion of under fives in England receiving all 13 routine. Childhood vaccinations has fallen in the past year new figures from n.h.s. Digital says those deceiving the 1st I said the m.m.r. Vaccine dropped for the 5th year in a row below the 95 percent target the health secretary said he wouldn't rule out taking action to ensure all children were protected the company which owns British Airways says strikes earlier this month and the threat of walkouts from staff at Heathrow will cut its profits by 120000000 pounds thanks thanks. Thanks thanks thanks. Thanks to our. Thanks to. The Sun.