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That they must have a job where they're going to be earning a certain amount that is to avoid undercutting by other employers even though some business is a very worried that if you have a minimum salary then you're not going to be able to recruit enough workers Nicholas Possum's has died at the age of 96 after a short illness the broadcaster hosted radio falls just a minute since it started in 1967 Brandreth was a friend he was a consummate professional right up to when was magic 5 he was still during his one man show still appearing at the Edinburgh Fringe and so I'll sing just a minute until last year it's operation but to me a good career truly is a celebration and a man to celebrate she was such close a person a really lovely human being that's 5 Live News Dallas with the sports Novak Djokovic is through to the semifinals of the astray you don't quit after a straight sets win over me last ran h. 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That is the latest we were waiting for that or wait to go ahead will be excluded apparently from sensitive geographic locations such as nuclear sites and military bases but Boris Johnson's government decided that Huawei will be granted that role in providing that infrastructure there was some issue around the fact that perhaps he wouldn't go ahead with that and then that would have been a breaking of a manifesto commitment early on into his tenure as a prime minister with this sort of majority but he has gone ahead with it that is the decision that is despite much criticism on his own benches by conservatives who are concerned about the Chinese state backed company having this sort of role in our infrastructure we will have more on that for you as we get it but Huawei has been given the green light to play that role in rolling out 5 g. In the cafe more on that very short day well tomorrow another big decision the transport secretary Grant Shapps is expected to decide whether to strip Northern of the contract to run its services which he has called completely unacceptable the company began operating the franchise in 2016 but can see customers say that they've had to put up with poor service appalling punctuality and overcrowded trains because the shops waited 5 breakfast earlier and told Rachel Byrne He shared the frustrations of Northern commissioners Mike in the service there is completely unacceptable I'm going to be saying more about it this week and so for commuters on nor them I share their frustrations of frustrated commuter myself and we absolutely have to get it resolved but you also owned by a river it would be a total fog wouldn't it if you just gave them another contract even if it was in some way altered you're inviting me to sort of make it illegal choice that I will make in the next few days and by the end of this month but you know it is the case that the tsunami acceptable level of service and not Absolutely. Determined there and elsewhere in the country to simply get on trains running on time which should not be too much to ask in a sort of civilised country so says the transport section I'm sure many of you will agree with him and look forward to what he'll be doing about it well ending McDonald is the m.p. For Middlesbrough and the shadow transport secretary he would like his opposite number to strip Northern of that contract we have an operator of last resort which is the public sector body for sure that's been privatized but nevertheless it does represent the States intervening in taking over the railway in one god or another and I think people in the north of England had enough of a river running dreadful service and tones on why we don't do it ourselves and I think all the evidence is all the service that I've seen demonstrate that real nationalization is extremely popular so I would suggest that the transport secretary gets on with it gets it done it's interesting we had a message straight end when I was talking to Andy McDonald and he was so he bought the merits of nationalisation we were getting into Network Rail in the fail is that which of course is state owned Gary had said and I want to read this out to him but didn't get the chance nationalized industry didn't work and won't work in the future it is a dinosaur We also spoke about the Labor leadership price with Mr McDonald who is backing Rebecca long Bailey often characterized as a continuity candidate for Mr Coburn and some of his evidence for why that would work again in a general election even though it provided with the same sorts of people who are around Mr Corbett even though it provided the worst election defeat for Labor since the 20 since 925 he actually says that he's looked into this and nationalization of rail was a popular policy amongst faces and actually it was all to do with Brett c. May have a take on the 5058 but it isn't just camisa is feeling the pain spare a thought for the people who work for nor than those who have to deal with the wrath of customers Dave is a train driver for new. Although that's not his real name he spoke to us before we came on or and to keep him anonymous one of our producers has reversed his words it's a bit embarrassing because things are just so so dire things have definitely deteriorated since since the new franchise started in 2060 as a work force you feel like the company breaks a lot of promises that it's made to staff to improve things on the ground it doesn't feel like they're interested in making things better for the Star in fact the reality is it's just got a lot worse it's really demoralizing to work for such a shoddy outfit we were scruffy tatty uniforms that you know we have to we have to practically have to beg to get replacements for when they're when they're worn out and we come to work on a railway that the company doesn't care for and we don't feel cared for by the company the quality of the railway that we're involved in in running is poor and it's demoralizing and it's embarrassing you know I think the region deserves better I think staff deserve better we get staff discounts we travel around the country on the railway and our free time. Anybody that's been a passenger down south and up north can can tell you that there's glaring differences. You have traveled around by rail working in the industry in year it's you know the electrification that we were promised up here has been canceled you can you can travel around down south and you can see the work going on we definitely neglected as a region and we feel that in the northern bit of the rail industry just as much as everywhere else and you've also got concerns about you know. Driver training just talk to me a bit about that there's been a lot of new trains to the company and they're mostly not new trains on the railway but they are new to Northern So getting people trained up so that they can you know operate the services that with those trains has been a big priority for the company and they basically seem to be willing to sacrifice pretty much anything else at the expense of that they certainly don't have enough numbers to cover training people without using overtime and they're just using bags and bags and bags of overtime and before Christmas they were in such a rush to get everybody trained on the new trains that you were seeing Judy's uncovered all over the place on the rosters at work because people were just off being trained and without the overtime you know if people weren't picking up those shifts What kind of impact would that have on the services we're already seeing lots of uncovered duties now if the rest day working agreement between the union and the company would stop I think it would be. It we worse than Southern even Southern at its worst one of the complaints that we sort of you know heard about is overcrowding and people not being able to get onto the trains I mean as a driver does that impact she was told to you kind of you know you feel the impact here we do we get people knocking on the window complaining to us we feel like we have to help the guards in managing you know managing the crowd control when things get really bad and at the end of the day we do have a responsibility for making the final decision that it's safe to move the train and levels of overcrowding do play a part in making that decision even something that seems as trivial as being able to get out of the cab if you have an overcrowded train that becomes difficult is not just unsafe for the passengers it can severely get in the way of us doing our job you know when things aren't going to plan yes you could just sit in the cabin have people knocking on the window and ignore the noise that's going on behind you but most people just can't do that if the government decides it's a franchise the way would you would you but their decision I don't think a Tory government is a friend to any working people so. You know while I would back the decision to confiscate the franchise from Riva it would leave questions from me and my colleagues about well you know what's going to come next. I personally feel that the the Tory government has for a long time now wanted a showdown with the rail unions a May be it would use a franchise that operates directly as a as a key battleground to do that so yeah there are reasons for us to fear being taken back into government hands but then we look at the l n e r franchise has been in and out of government hands for years well years and years now it was National Express then it came back in-house that it was virgin Wesco So it's come back in-house again and it doesn't seem to have worked out too badly for them at Ellenwood to a blindly cheerleader but would definitely like to see the back of the river. I don't mean the industry has to have a bleak future it just feels like that at the moment you go and insights from Dave he's a train driver for nor the not his real name he spoke to us on the condition of being anonymous a northern space person said we've delivered on our commitment to increase the number of train services we now operate 2000 more services each week than at the start of the franchise This means we deliver 30 percent more train miles in 2019 than in 2016 by the end of the air almost 110000000 journeys were made using Northern trains in 2019 that's a record for the North which got a lot of messages in off the back of hearing Dave from people in working in similar jobs with quite a lot of sympathy safe to say one I thought was very interesting is this one which says I'd like to remain anonymous but listening to that northern train driver I felt a certain amount of sympathy I'm a captain for want what was once the world's favorite line and everything he said resonates with life with him be a where working to the legal limit relying on overtime and we to have to beg to exchange credit cheap uniforms not fit for purpose why because the costs have to remain flat and profit has to be made that's life in the big bad world but it's the worst I have seen in 25 years so you know be close to affecting safety in the interest of profit I imagine it's the same across swathes of industry in the u.k. Tom forth has joined me now in the studios head of data at the Open Data Institute lays he knows everything about rail in the north of England in particular what's gone wrong at Northern did you get here on a train I did not so there I use northern trains a lot but the tram master says to be safe yeah also as an archer and stationary disarray so minor data tram is the choice you know the trial I mean the trams got enough gaps in its service as well but the point is it's not a joke nor that has failed doesn't it I think any passenger who regularly use an oven rail would say it's failed the last year there's not very few people will have had an acceptable service the last year and it keeps happening there's a. You know the call and get a train on time you can't necessarily get a seat it's just Roulette yet you often can't get on so there's lots of trains cancelled every morning and then when the train doesn't arrive it's 2 carriages instead of 4 and you can't get on the thing so you're waiting another half an hour and people around the country will know often trains and tube trains to Tubers to go on but another one might be there in 15 minutes it can be an hour or half an hour in an office so yeah it's not good enough and I think I've embarrassed myself a little bit I'm embarrassed myself again today but 2 years ago I was saying to people who were moaning about Northern I'm saying look there's new trains coming there's investment being made soon it will be better and they look back and they said Sue Well it's a bit longer than soon now and it's still not really improved I don't think so I would guess that again hopefully soon it will be better but how often can you keep saying soon hold that thought because we're just going to get an update on another infrastructure decision and a breaking story as we are on because as I was just saying before we saw a discussion about Northern The government has announced Chinese mobile company who are way is to have a limited role in the u.k. 5 j but it is to have a role Gordon Corera who's the b.b.c. Security correspondent what do we know what do we know is that we've just had this announcement and it's basically the way is in but with strict restrictions on where and how it operates now what the government is saying is that it will be kept out of critical infrastructure will be kept out of a core of the telecoms network that's the kind of brains which controls where data goes ill how it will be kept out away from sensitive geographic locations that means nuclear sites military bases and other suppliers will also be used and who always role will be limited to about 35 percent of the network so that sounds pretty tough but it's worth saying that still means they are in the network when critics had called for them to be excluded entirely. It was too much of a security risk but clearly the government has believed the advice they've got from their security officials which is that the risk can be managed through these particular restrictions placed on the company and how they suspect real people's lives day to day because we always get listeners getting in such saying could you source out. The full Gee I'd quite like those things to be in place before this Athens Well I mean this is the thing about a 5 g. Is that at the moment all it is is a bit faster and it's being rolled out in cities already with who are way equipment potentially though 5 g. Is transformative because it will have data and senses everywhere which will allow computers data data or machines to all talk to each other and move seamlessly between each other now what does that mean in practice what it means is you can have things like smart cars driving around cities it means your house will be smarter and sensors will be everywhere knowing when you've been needs to be able to do or when more power needs to be routed to a particular part of a city medicine might be able to be done remotely in more ways to tell you medicine there's all kinds of transformative possibilities with 5 g. But as you can hear from some of those examples it will involve collecting a lot more data about you and about your life or about a city or about how things operate and we will become more dependent upon that technology and that's why it's a different kind of national security risk from previous G.'s if you like which was simply about phone calls data read and the communications on your phone and that's why people said Is there a risk in allowing a Chinese company given what we know about China to play a part in that infrastructure and why some people have been so opposed to having any role are you surprised by the decision this is the way been heading I think this is what people expected the briefings had all been heading that way partly because if you listen to the mood music from politicians they were saying well we take national security very seriously we were telling the risks with it but economic growth and prosperity is important and the true. About about this is that not use who our way in 5 g. Would have meant effectively ripping it out of the places where it's already in the network and slowing down the adoption of this new technology and so it was this complicated balance between the economic costs of not using hallway the potential national security risks of doing it which perhaps can be managed and then this geo political issue of the trumpet ministration lobbying very hard I mean it was always a tough decision but I think all the signs had been this was the way it was going the easy potentially the manage the security risks your security correspondent I mean what can we say in terms of if you are listening to this and you quite worried well what should you be thinking when you process this information well I think the experts and I know you know you hear a lot about should we trust the experts but the experts who really understand these telecoms industries in infrastructure say you can manage the risks now you can mitigate the risk doesn't mean you can eliminate it but what I think what they're hoping is that even if China tried to do something through this company in the company say that's that something they'd never do it would be spotted the it could be the network could be reconfigured so there wouldn't be a problem about it in other words you can manage those risks now there are other people who think the risk the real risk is that in 20 years time Chinese technology will be dominant and this is a step on the way to having Chinese technology dominant and then in 2030 years will be living in a world in which the Chinese tech companies are basically owning all of our data and running all of the networks and then they will have a kind of hold on our lives which some people find disturbing but that's a possibility and that's one of the tricky things with this judgment it's trying to balance what those long term possibilities might be with the short term economic costs and the diplomatic costs thank you very much Gordon clever thing is in the pitch of the vcs security. Correspondent on that breaking news that the government has announced a decision on where this will allow Huawei to build the 5 and it has although it has stressed it will be limited we were discussing another big decision form the transport secretary Grant Shapps about whether Northern should have its franchise stripped Tom 4th is with me in the studio head of data at the Open Data Institute Leeds you're in a situation where you said you'd hoped things would be better by now is northern it hasn't shown that it will be what do you think the next step is so we're getting quite a lot of mixed messages I think the government have been talking about maybe taking on the national control for months now and they still haven't I don't think announced anything yet so it feels like northern If a feeling is passed the last chance that it is going to happen that's my feeling and what we'll do that is put direct rail services probably in charge of it so it's like all the franchises that fail and presumably they'll have to make a big decision about what to do next and that is another challenge because at the moment as a huge review out called The Williams review into what the future of railways will look like in the u.k. It's about fares franchising all kinds of things that was meant to be our I think Autumn 2019 because I looked on the website last night so it's meant to be out and the website still says it will be coming in autumn 2019 and I don't think we can get trains on time and we can't get reports about trains on time yeah that's the report on fixing the late running trains is itself late running and without that report I mean I think most people in the industry seem to feel about reports had a really good look at what needs to happen what's gone wrong and how we fix it but until it's in the public and we can all read it I don't think we know what's going to happen so it's going to be more sticking type I think whatever the government chooses to do does not make sense so I think nationalization is Ok so some people say ah it's brilliant to take it under and a national control some people say no. Franchising is a mazing we shouldn't basically nationalization is does nothing bad with it what can happen that's bad with nationalization is if you make promises right so if you say for example they are going to cut fares in half and you can't afford to do that where are you going to find the money and that's that's more likely with nationalization but there are plenty of countries all around the world that run rail services either nationalized all franchised and in both cases they work well and I think that the Williams review will kind of say something similar there's a big underlying problems one of them in the u.k. Is the nationalized part of r.l. Way so Network Rail is nationalized the investment that has not happened in the north of England that causes so many of the problems that that we're talking about was a failure of a nationalized industry in a nationalized company so nationalization doesn't fix everything I suspect that people saying it will fix everything or exaggerating but also people who are saying it's the end of the world it won't work they're exaggerating to where I mean. Plenty of franchises of run for quite a long time under national control and they've they've worked pretty well. We'll see what happens Tom for thank you very much head of data at the Open Data Institute you have a speedy journey thank you back to wherever you're going now more now on those proposed changes to the immigration rules which would bring you up to date with skilled migrants from outside the currently need to have a job offer with a minimum salary of $30000.00 pounds to work where the migration advisory committee is recommending that this should be reduced by more than 4000 pounds in order to help create teachers and skilled n.h.s. Stuff I'm affairs correspondent on the show has more the migration advisory committee says that if the government adopts that change together with some other changes that they're recommending in this $270.00 page report the overall effect would be that you would have lower immigration increased productivity and improvement in the public finances reduce pressure on schools the n.h.s. And housing but increased pressure on social care social care is a sector which they say really struggles to attract workers because they don't offer competitive rates of pay and that's a real issue Mike Padron runs care homes in Scarborough his chair of the independent care group might welcome to the program. How will these recommendations help you with recruitment. Was a step in the right direction but doesn't go far enough because social care is always difficult to recruit in the Currently there are 100000 more than 100000 people looking for vacancies in social care today and this doesn't go far enough and as the m a c says it's a much wider issue and something we got to tackle because because it's been ignored for far too long so what do you want to see happen. Well I think if we're talking about migration we need to get that salary cap lowered even further because sadly many social care staff do not get 25000 pounds a year far from it what we need. To do is we need the government to grasp this problem and settle it because Boris Johnson did say when he stepped on the steps number 10 he said you can solve the social care problems once parolees failed and I hope the pressure will show that social care isn't a crisis that he'll deal with it because we want to be at the pay stuff more to make them more competitive but we're in a vicious perfect storm to say this is about you trying to get workers from overseas and pay them a certain level of this is about trying to get workers here well I think we need both to be honest it is estimated that by 2035 we're going to need more than half a 1000000 more social care stuff in this country to cope with the aging population where they're coming from the reason the stuff in England we need to from overseas if I just go back to my own locally we employ 160 staff and 15 of those currently are from Europe and without them we couldn't function and I know many care providers would be in the same boat is without people from overseas we just can't deliver the service that people in this country need. When you come and work in this field well you'll be in many cases not far about the national living wage which is not far far enough basically But the the government has ignored this issue for if I just tell you this over the last 20 years we've had said 13 different papers trying to sort out social 12 different social chemist as each one's ignored it and that's why we're in the problem we're in today is going to cost more to live a social care in the future people eat and earn more but it's going to cost the taxpayer more eventually and you're looking today for this committee about migration Well I don't think they can solve the social care problems I would like them to is that I mean they have put some pressure on the government but they said it is not in respect of migration we don't like that salary cap to come down further to to bring social care stuff in from overseas but they're put the problem back to government to say is not in there or it's about making sure we're not competitive enough that I go back to govern and say well we need help on funding then you're starving local authorities of money to pay Social Care stuff properly and more in that perfect storm as I said earlier is 2 issues m.a.c. Is one but I think it's the government I hold. Count I mean I have written to Morris Johnson invited in to see social care on the front line not an answer none of the ministers in the green paper has been public postpone at least 6 times I believe since 2017 the count keeps getting kicked down the road so what about this comment from the home secretary pretty Patel who said at the weekend that British firms have been relying on cheap labor for too long. Well our audience are often said social care staff aren't paid enough but a lot of the work is delivered on behalf of the gum through local authorities who couldn't stop to cash them selves we want to buy stuff more we need to charge local It is more they need to have funding from the government and their families being cut by billions of pounds since 2010 the government has got to step in and prop up the social care system to house our service so I go back to the government that's got to solve this problem they keep talking about having crossed party talks but that's all we seem to do talk about it we don't solve the problem and I personally have problems feeling shifts this weekend alone next week and next year and beyond is a crisis the government want to tackle and the baby with bricks it nearly finished this week or at least part one finished they need to come and put social care as the top of their agenda my part in their life on the front line of social care running calves in Scarborough and chair of the independent care group asking for the government for decisions were decisions aplenty in the sense of while another decision expected tomorrow. This week about northern and the franchise another one in the injury for Boris Johnson and his government is that of social care more on that to come we're also going to be talking about as we've just heard in there and of the 1st phase if you like of Brecht's it it is happening on Friday and you have been getting in touch with what you're writing to the if you could say goodbye to it what would you say 85 o 5 a if you had to think of something to write what comes to that in just a moment get you thinking caps on joy in the news it's 1231. Tom digital b.b.c. Said last week. This is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live away will be allowed to roll in the u.k. 5 g. Network Boris Johnson is giving the Chinese tech group limited access and it'll be excluded from sensitive locations such as military sites the u.s. 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If all the money that has been taken from ordinary people across Europe to pay for your building your regulations your salaries and your expenses had just been left in the hands of the people who earned today in the 1st place how much better would it have been spent or you feeling more power Hi I'm really into and this is my dear john or should I say dish up poem to the e.u. The Roses are red violets are blue we pay using pounds now we way with them too it's not just the metrics on this about the e.u. My folks live in Holland so all really miss them too oh maybe a feeling practical Sainsbury's boss might keep their e.u. What I think they I would be looking for the e.u. To. Have the right stars as far as the negotiation is concerned and ultimately we'd be a company that would want to have no trade barriers between ourselves and the European Union so. Please negotiate with. I'm so sorry and very sad about this says Simon on the tax hoping for a speedy return please keep our seat warm another one hair thank you for being our friend hopefully those who voted to leave will soon see the error of their ways and we will be back another one sorry for mucking around with his safe friends as Collin day was still not ready for brakes it says Cliff more of your message is coming in if you are writing the leaving card to the what you want to say. The deal is done is 39000000000 pounds will cut and run but just for good just for good will as a gesture from us we have even loved in the lying red bus so this one day very simple You've brought all this damage on yourself by your refusal to take Cameron seriously you reap what you sow by from Joe in Bristol to the sorry we are an educated population with a little and a mentality trying to find glory in our past that wasn't Laureus. Ceri leaving her there what would you put in the cart 285909693 getting your messages in on that and one of the things we want to do on the program this year is follow the work of M.P.'s who are campaigning to get changes to things that matter to them and their constituents M.P.'s like the David a Mrs set up an all party parliamentary group for and Dimitrios is after being approached by a constituent who suffers from the chronic condition is launching an inquiry into the diagnosis care and challenges of enemy choices which an estimated one in 10 women suffer from so David Amis joins me now as does Lacey Pascha Robinson his day job is the opinion editor at The Huffington Post she's 29 but is currently going through a chemically induced men opposed because she suffers from and Demetrius is a woman to both of you good afternoon thank you Lynn Emma thank you to both of you for coming on today Mayor So actually would you just ask how long did it take to get that diagnosis because I think more of the issue probably is some of your answers yeah absolutely I think mine is. Something of a classic story in that it took probably the best part of 10 years to arrive at a kind of definitive Dec diagnosis I've had quite a few kind of red herring diagnoses before. Painful periods i.b.s. . You know I changed poor diet I kind of received every possible explanation from doctors apart from the correct one and it took a lot of advocating for me to arrive at a diagnosis to come back to your condition away with that in just a moment but he comes he said David why the interest of what he had been to achieve well even though I come from a female dominated hell support of white children for which it goes on you absolutely nothing a troll. Says and it was true a constituent call it Chrissy coming to me at one of my trees describing the suffering that she experiences but my interest in the subject and what are you hoping to change. Well as we've just heard from your other guest the average time of diagnosis is 7 years which is crazy so I allow the parliamentarians we've set up an all party parliamentary group and then the beginning of February we're going to launch then cooperate looking at the impact the lengthy diagnosis has on a person's mental health challenges in accessing campaign knowledge and the impact the condition has on other aspects a person's life including their mental health and Chris they. Would take place in March at the end of it we want to present to ministers the government findings and we intend to hold them to account hold you to account the government and the ministers so that hopefully will agree with us. Once we formulated all the responses we. Send it out questionnaires. Literally to thousands of people we look forward to cancel those responses and then at the end of the inquiry we'll have the findings analyzed. Jew lawyer and then hopefully will come up with a number of recommendations which we hope we can persuade the government to agree with and then to trespass the 3 main points which is a purpose apparent quadrature of just described Yes I mean the issue here is one of on the front line g.p.s. Not necessarily knowing anything about and me chases around for long enough to refer so that can be very difficult to effect change. But we have a shortage of 3 pieces we know in any case it takes a long time to train them but my colleagues are not to be defeatist in this if it's one in 10 women affected by this terrible disease who are going through dreadful agony and we have some people parliamentarians who have 3 illness as well we we just want to make sure that the government prioritizes this and in so doing fine Streep with real expertise. I mean that the thing to say Heron are you know a regular listeners of this program know I do suffer with this condition that's not why we're doing this story within the story because of sedated I was doing this and there is now a greater level of discussion about is still not enough I also didn't. Want any 20 years for me the thing I was trying to stress is you can't be diagnosed without a laparoscopy which is a key ho surgery which can see it because it doesn't show up and scans as well a lot of people say to me why did it take 20 years that I have a saliva test today they say no I absolutely and I think one of the key points that is yet awareness of this condition has increased people are when. You Sanda me choices you're not met as often as with kind of a gaping mouth and and Dimitri wot you know there is that when it hasn't yet translated into the research and into furthering the treatments available for this to this diagnose this disease so for example when you go into your g.p. And you present with certain symptoms. They don't immediately jump to the conclusion that that could be what you're suffering with because of a whole host of reasons that there are enormous amount of misconceptions about what period should be as as you well know Emma Yeah I mean it is extraordinary how you can go in and talk about these various issues and that's not the conclusion that is drawn just to talk to you about your treatment because the other big myth to bust is there's no cure for and to me says there are different ways of trying to manage symptoms how have you come to the decision if it if it was that perhaps it was advice to you to have a chemically inducement of course. Well this isn't my 1st rodeo as they say. I've already had this treatment in the past as you say this is a chronic condition there isn't currently any cure for it so suffer as including myself end up having recurrent treatments a very period of years I've already had 2 surgeries to the 1st to diagnose the condition and the 2nd to remove and to make choices that was causing me a lot of pain can I just interrupt this point I'm sorry to do so but we haven't actually said to Beatrice this is the build up of cells which represent the lining of the womb on other parts of the body and don't leave your body during the period as they should and when you talk about surgery you're actually talking about surgery to remove that buildup if I could put it like that just so people know when you say having and to Beatrice is removed what that means on the point is it grows back doesn't it absolutely yeah it does grow back as a as I saw so I've had to have repeated surgeries and after the 2nd one I had a 1st man a pause treatment which is designed to lower your Eastridge in levels because it's thought that the disease thrives and grows with the production of Eastridge and so the theory is that if you go through the men a pause it will delay the gap kind of widen the gaps between treatment necessary and you 29 going through the. Chemically one of those but the metaphors I mean. Well I had some experience of it obviously as I've been through it before but it is it is just as bit as every bit as fun as you can imagine really give us some of the symptoms everything from hot flashes nights where it's insomnia this treatment for me starts in November and I haven't had a good night's sleep since November. Brain fog makes it really difficult to concentrate. Even kind of bodily changes like weight gain in kind of the lower hips kind of saddlebag area. It I've even found that my boobs have shrunk I don't know quite how that's possible but apparently the reduced estrogen makes that makes that happen. And what does that mean feel I don't know if you would like to to try to have children there are implications with a lot of women have had to be choices something to listen or always but there are with some what does that mean for you in that respect if you've even thought that far ahead yeah I mean it's really difficult because I was diagnosed when I was 24 and mediately That's the 1st thing people ask you what does this mean for your fertility but actually for me it's been more about how do I get a handle on my pain and how do I not let this ruin my career and how do I not let this ruin my mental health and safety me that's been more of a priority as I kind of as I approach my thirty's it's obviously something I'm thinking about and I guess it's something I'll just have to I have to cross that bridge when I come to it right I only asked the question because in the many pools element of this which is that you can reverse what you're doing because it's chemical is that right yes absolutely yeah I mean and just also to stress which just being sedated back in on this I mean the pain is extraordinary and excruciating and very debilitating and people do you miss work is part of your reports today that are you going to be looking in Sioux the funding gap there has been around research into female only conditions like this. Very much and if I can just say chill contributor all the horrors that she has just scribing have been shared with. My constituent caller Chrissy in and out of hospital very very depressing taking endless time off off of work and. I absolutely agree with the point that we also need to spend money on finding a cure to this and to get proper support for the mental health of the sufferers with trios says. Both of you are available and we're. To get that quality we would. Love to hear from you how do for us how do people do that we will advertise online. We're going to be help with the National. Organization. And then people could just go online and apply to get their. Thank you he said The question is traffic but just because of both got you on the phone it would be great to hear from. Personally Kwara. I'm very happy to do so I mean very very open about this and I'm sure you would too sedated Amish thank you very much t.v. I just give you the final word. This is while it's all very well intentioned and it's really important that it gets the spotlight and people are held to account over this and also people don't feel like they're going mad you know that the the effects are properly understood and heard one of the most frustrating things I find about having this condition and be different is that when you do know there's still no cure that's what's so difficult you still have to live with it yeah absolutely I mean it's so frustrating to know that probably in my lifetime in in the years where I want to be achieving the most in my twenty's I want to be building my career I want to be traveling and forming relationships I've been so held back by this disease and I just think of the millions of women and the all of the wasted potential because of because of kind of their suffering so that's something that I really really hope this in this inquiry will will consider if to choose your moments you have to time things around when you know you won't be necessarily in pain if you're in that moment where you know when your cycle is going to be I sort of shed you various things not to happen when it's when it's for me a period everyone tries to manage it slightly different because it is no. You can sort of operate I think the best quote I ever read about it was from Hilary Mantel the author who suffered for years with this and she said everything I've achieved I've achieved in the teeth of this disease and teeth is actually such a good word you know if you know after I've had direct experience with this you could be living with another different chronic pain condition but chronic pain is it's brutal and I think the thing about chronic pain of chronic illness is your well until one day you're not and it can have it really can happen to anyone and. It does change your life in the most drastic way I remember when I was 1st presenting you know I was having a particularly painful period that day and the beginning of the show stood up and I actually thought to myself how am I going to stand for 60 seconds and you know I did it in the end that's not boast in any way I hope it doesn't come across like that but I had to think about steeling myself for that you know adrenaline is very helpful but that's not good for you either it's a flood yourself with adrenaline and force yourself to do things but all the time and I recognize I have an incredibly easy job compared to people because most time I do get to sit down. And those people who are much more physical job women in all sorts of areas construction stocking shelves whatever it is I always think about how happy I am that I have never gone into anything physical I think it's also a disease it's rooted in a lot of historical oppression and societal expectations of of how how much pain is normal for a woman to suffer and suffering in silence also as a woman and I think in the workplace that's especially difficult it's hard to find a voice and be able to speak up without feeling as much as my employer is extreme and extremely supportive but it's hard to speak up without feeling like people are going to think less of you or. Judge you there's going to be some kind of stigma because periods are still so sick stigmatized and important to note as well the end retraces can cause pain all month long. Long as well so. Yes true we should definitely state that not everyone is the same with no stigma about here is a hype on this show I certainly cleared the airwaves for that I have been many ways and I do appreciate you coming to talk to us today about what you are going through and I hope the the men of Paul's treats you a bit kind even though you know a point where your 29 and shouldn't be in this situation so thank you so much for coming on Thank you Emma and good luck with it all the more follow that inquiry that's Lisi Pascha Robinson Well the veteran television and radio performer Nicholas Parsons' total national treasure especially to those who listen week in week out to his radio program has died at the age of 96 here he is performing his role as chair on the long running Radio 4 panel show just a minute can it can you tell us something about my other self in 60 seconds starting now my other self and Peter called his challenge right away Peter the possibility of deviation Well the only deviation has occurred is the fellow never even started so it was a wrong challenge Peter but nice to hear from you and the this does now I know you're here as well and didn't miss your bus that's Nicholas Parsons getting Kenneth Williams and peace Cooke in check their check there Mr Parsons was meant to wear his an engineer in a shipyard he took up acting instead he spoken in the past about that decision and how he had to overcome dyslexia as stammer and his mother when I showed these signs of wanting to be a performer she freaked out because she thought everybody showpieces must be debased and deprived on ice for so we can ineffectual and the fact I was dyslexic but didn't understand it meant that I was very slow a writing and also having a very strong and dominant older brother whom I looked up to Mark tremendously maybe that inhibited me and the start or maybe the start arose because of that tone Lloyd is a television producer and presenter of Radio 4 was the Museum of curiosity he produced just a minute between 74 and 76 and Robin Ince presenter of Radio 4 was the Infinite Monkey Cage has appeared on just a minute as a. Analyst Well can see by John if I could start with you your what would you like to say about Nicholas Parsons. Very. Treasure I'm a very nice guy credit card me when I was a. Baby. 22 took me under his wing. Extraordinary longevity and you know just a bit it just went on getting. Also not many people know very good actors well. You know if I think straight and very funny I member when as a child. Robin what do you want to say about Yes well don't pick up on what John said is well it's a fantastic career when you see how many different things he did you know the author Hank show being a straight man then he goes off and he's in he did so many British films of the sixty's the Major he was in one of the Carry On films you see one of the doctors Dr films he's in the last of the Miss Marple films as well with Margaret rather for and then he goes off and he becomes you know a t.v. Show host doing everyone the 2 things you remember when you think of Anglia all tales the unexpected and it's the quiz of the week you know and then he would be and always tremendously affable but for the 1st time I did just a minute I was absolutely terrified because yeah I'd had 2 weeks of nightmares when Nicholas would appear in my nightmare just subject he's tea towels and I just see myself going. And everyone buzzing in and he was so kind and then when I actually got the 1st round that I had to do and I was doing quite well my brain had rehearsed you nightmare so often and then 40 seconds in just when I thought I might do it suddenly my brain said mention a t.v. Sitcom and sitcom The cat was Allo Allo. Straighten with repetition and I was like and it was going to Tokay It's Ok it's just a show but he was yeah very very very sweet yes this is what everyone seems to be saying and a very. Very lovely John for you also you know are you deaf of I Well now everything very exacting in a way yeah and just just never stopped and one thing very few people will know is that you can sort of take credit for a huge other strand programming which is the news quiz which then became Have I Got News for you because the year before I was the original news quiz a 977 the year before they could come to me with an idea of a program called Keep taking the tabloids which was a quiz about the silly bits the news just Brander's it and I showed it my head and 'd said it doesn't really work promising I don't think it works but have another go do a different quiz about the news so that was that's where he 1st came from. On his 90th birthday the b.b.c. To a surprise party. Is in trouble then b.c. Council chamber and he didn't know it was he thought it was going to have a pro program meeting and we all sort of shared and applauded and he gave a 20 minute speech off the cuff incredibly funny remembering everybody's names so it was the most impressive piece of living I think I've ever seen Robyn as that you all scaled you thing standing in front of the day had something different that affability I was chatting to a friend of mine he used to accompany Kenneth Williams mother Lou to a lot of the recordings and he always said how charming Nicholas would be with Lou and the fact that I suppose he both Nicholas and Derek Numa had little competitions of different presidents and they would try and bar for loot and all a fact and what I love also is the fact that he was always he remained interested so every year he would go to the Edinburgh Fringe he would do his Nicholas Parsons happy hour he would often go off and see new comedians you know he would go on this is the lovely stroke I'm sure will be repeated many times cited as such delight for one when he was once in a radio show with Ross Noble and he said Who's your favorite comedian Russ and I will said. Richard Pryor I mean it's such an incredible life he was brought up in a brothel he would then have a lot of issues with drink and drugs and also jail and and then he was freebasing cocaine months because he's running down the street and his mistress was heard saying Have you heard about Richard bra is a beautiful day after hearing. About some amazing. I want to thank both of you for coming on and paying tribute. And. Nicholas Parsons and I'm sure many of Radio 5 Live yes it is it is 1 o'clock it's time for me now all of the nikah on 5 large main news while a is given the go ahead for some of the U.K.'s network sports Castle on Dragon's son controversial rugby player Israel Folau and the latest episode of must watch is available for you to download now it's a podcast with Scott Brown Heidi Campbell myself review the biggest new t.v. In streaming shows and you can find it as you can with the whole world the whole universe in fact on b.b.c. Sounds. This is big.
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