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It is destroyed on far love with Chloe Tony there are plenty of all gnomes in this general election but the simple fact is that 40 days 48 hours from now on the Boris Johnson journey Coleman will be prime minister in the choice facing the electorate is stark perhaps stalker than it's been for decades Boris Johnson in case anyone needs reminding says he'll get Briggs it done but if tomorrow's result is anything but a conservative majority is a fair chance that bricks a little bit if Jeremy Corbyn and his number 10 he's promising to bring in real change spending more than 80000000000 pounds on nationalizing utilities and making huge investments in public services the times compares tomorrow's election to $983.00 when Margaret Thatcher took on and defeated Michael Foot Well today's the final day of campaigning and Paul. The leaders have just a matter of hours to persuade you to back that many have been zipping across the country in one final push we've got we've got a fantastic agenda this country we can get pretty tough there's a party of the billionaires ours is the party of the many ever Democrats are winning feet from the conservatives it's why what everyone was doing is so important I do think that get breaks it done slogan is the biggest point in this election if we get a Conservative majority which I still think we will that we will be back in crisis by May next year we probably do a better job ourselves you know compared to the Westminster political establishment familiar voices they're familiar slogans if you're sick of hearing about the election there is some good news 6 and a half hours from now 5 Live indeed the whole of the b.b.c. Will become a politics free zone until the polls close at 10 o'clock tomorrow night Lim recent years it feels like we've done nothing but vote is no less speaks to people who commit more than their fair share of elections Michael White's a former political editor of The Guardian he covered his 1st general election for the London Evening Standard in 97 Hi Michael hello welcome to the program Rachel Sylvester is here as well political columnist for The Times Hi Rachel let's just get the overview 1st of all my call you covered a few hours of establish what was the context this time around is it a seismic is we're led to believe. Well it's a pretty important election. But it seems to me we disagree with many people here I think we're going to get breaks it whatever happens I assume many people do the Tories will get some sort of majority and we'll have it but of course Nicholas Sturgeon said on your program just a few that clip a few seconds ago doesn't mean breakfast delivered it's the only the 1st part of it will be stuck in this quagmire for years whoever wins and whatever happens and when the voters realise this they should have done by now but I think lots haven't get bricks it done isn't great back sit down then we'll be uncharted waters again because people are very hostile to politics more than I can remember. Covering thing these things a long time people are like politicians that's Ok but they don't trust them and they don't respect them both of the main party leaders and I can see why that is interesting I was in crew actually on Monday and I was walking around the market speaking to various people expecting them I thought a lot of people made up their decision they're made up their minds Michael going into this and they just give me their views on who they want to empower but actually the majority view was that nobody's trusted they've got no time for Boris Johnson or Jeremy Corbett can you can you remember any any part of your history when he was the Guardian when you've seen such a similar situation you know and I think this election has been concentrated more than most so the leaders. Everybody said we haven't seen Diane Abbott make hardly seen Dominic Robin all sorts of people and neither leader is satisfactory in a very profound way Boris Johnson is thought to be a liar and Jeremy Corbin is thought to be in La-La Land really not really the leader of the party anyway paradoxically deep down I think Boris is a remainer and deep down not so deep down German covens or breaks a tear it's very dysfunctional and I think people are not clear how to respond to this Rachel coming on a minute I'm stealing Alliance So this is an on popularity contest this right in her column this week I think she's right I have. Made up my mind quite what to do what Rachel I'll bring you in on the on that point do you need to particular Johnson Corbin issue or just people are so dissatisfied with politics in general that anybody could be leading those policies and they'd still feel. You know. I think I was a huge mistrust in politics generally but basically just have made it worse as Michael says it's a kind of popularity contest some people are trying to choose the worst option to breaking Boris Johnson more popular than Jerry called them but that they've been deeply negative favor ability rating territory neither of them a trusted Nies of similar model like and Chavez which is also they make that worse during the campaign because it's a thing I can't remember then about Mike but I can't remember a campaign that's been so dishonest there was that very symbolic moment right at the beginning when. Johnson dissolved on the question time whether the trust mattered and he said yes the truth matters a trist important what about the audience laughed at him and at the same time the Conservative Party was putting out a fake Twitter account pretending to be a fact checking service to bunking up a thing that Jeremy called him saying there's been lying lies and statistics only through. From both sides actually but should be taken the conservatives and that's very dangerous in the long term because if you can't have a set of sheds facts and shared debates what does that teach democracy and the way to skin to end up with this spiral of decreasing trust in politics Well yeah and you know just to balance it up a bit we had the shadow house accident yesterday John Ashcroft you know he was telling the truth well if you had but it would be all you believe could be accused of hypocrisy Bob Bob By then campaigning for the Labor Party when when it will all get plea he doesn't approve of Jericho and. You know what to do to examine the usage of the right such as the sort of fundamental dishonesty that quite a few Labor M.P.'s are campaigning to catch to put a man and I'm sure they don't think that a prime minister. Election will you go for much to form a prime minister one Labor one conservative Jeneba and John Major coming out saying they don't want that Party's to win and broad majority. The sort of politics is fracturing don't judge me on this next sentence Ok but I was watching the crown last night and I know it's essentially a drama but but there is some relevance here because he was covering the era when he thin Wilson were going head to head. Various occasions to get into Downing Street the Duke of Edinburgh was ranting at the television saying the public don't like them but yet they keep electing them there's no you know that both as bad as each other there's no trust in the obviously the parallels were evident book but Rachel I'll come to you 1st on this one and I Michael one thing different from then now is the scrutiny of social media do you think election has changed forever now Rachel simply because politicians are being cold out by all and sundry doesn't need to kneel to do it anymore it just needs a tweak to go viral that it well and what makes it. True. You know so we had the fake accusation from somebody who is supposedly pretending that they knew that the hospital lit up call that a boy was sleeping on the floor can get up being computer turned out to be completely fake that was and treated and then as we had things that. Social media Facebook. People are campaigning people to the green you know edging them to the s. And p. To remain supporting they can take that agencies even though that but but but I think quite what it is in now and but but I guess my point is this it's going to be the same now for forever might know because the Chinese out the bottle it needn't be. We've got to get a grip on these tech companies the large monopolies which operate Google Facebook Amazon we all know who they are against the public interest all over the world and politics is merely one aspect of this and sooner or later governments I think the use been trying we don't talk about the any more different president than the White House would be trying but it's Trump's or he's on the side of the big corporations got to control them we've got a cap political spending we've got to make them more transparent Rachel made a very good point about this fake site telling people to vote Green in order to break up the remain vote it's pretty shocking it's as if there were no limits on election spending which means the billionaires would always win and that's what was happening in America there's a ledge billionaire in the White House and Bloomberg a New York billionaire real one is challenging him for this is very unhealthy and we've got to get on top of social media regulate it properly where when spend the next 2 or 3 minutes before we finish just debating the long term future where do we go if there is so much distrust cynicism you mention regular the audience laughing at Boris Johnson if the British public continue down the spiral of refusing to trust the establishment. To see where Michael where does it take us. Well refusing to trust the establishment this is an old trick anybody who's seen Shakespeare's Julius Caesar diseases Kalish When types get up very and say I'm against the establishment I'm on your side but they're not Jacob Riis more go really don't know Trump Oh really against the establishment Oh really no it's an old scam by populists and demagogues and unscrupulous people been around forever so you got to get proper politicians I think I disagreed with Rachel I think if we had been led by proper leaders in the last 10 years who would not like David Cameron botched a referendum on runaway I think of Blair or Thatcher. All sorts of people who are no good at Anglo Merkel Barack Obama probably to ship we wouldn't be in this rudderless mess because it'll only end up in something very unpleasant you mention tell me Blair you know the levels of dissatisfaction with Tony Blair to his end of his regime you've got Jeremy call but now making himself popular by by distancing to himself from everything that Tony Blair ever did this is that it is not done much good so far how's it we'll see what the it looks like on. Friday morning but Blair won 3 elections the fact that is a normal person in the Labor Party tells you more about labor activists than it does about the voters Rachel you were with Boris Johnson at the time so what do you recognise the Boris Johnson you see before you now yeah I don't think he's obsessed . You know. People around him and I think in terms of interesting if he would take on the big argument people would disagree with him but it was on the roll or all public service reform but he would take that on and have it more it's happening now is. That sort of his voyaging having me argument you know he's saying it's get but that's a slogan that's not that they will come on and have and be a more the future relationship with you going to be like. So I think the problem with quality in that they go. About it just like me it just don't just on that the be plenty of people who voted for Bracks who will say Boris Johnson taking a principled stand just as Joe Tony Blair did maybe only write history will they will judge history and Boris Johnson on whether he breaks it down because some thought so many people come to the show over the previous Perry years or so saying that's what we asked politician he still did in the ditch though is a promise to be dead in the ditch by no and he'll have to either have a no deal breakers who are pretty serious for a car industry for starters or he left to back off and climb out of the ditch again . In June if we're to avoid you know a car crash in December and we haven't even got past January the 31st Yet I mean you don't trust Boris is a liar he's always been a liar I'm sorry about this I hate having to say this about political leaders it's awful Well yeah I mean you know that has been the accusation throughout this campaign about Boris Johnson but he's been sacked twice for lying but but but but just to just to just to balance it Michael that's what I'm trying to talk about into but hang on you've got a duty to balance but I don't resent sex from his 1st job when Michael Howard sacked him from the shadow cabinet and everybody who's watched in the audience at question time Rachel mention just laughed when he said trust is an issue whether they are is a good or he's lied about it and some of the greatest politicians that ever lived before that with their colleagues over over many years is different voted out of many cabinet offices have. This is true this is different the age of social media and populism weld populism is old as history but I'm 74 and have never seen anything like it so that this is quite interesting I will be all running out of time by just I just I just will not point because the 2 the 2 main accusations that the party leaders how this thing is is trust is supposed forest as Boris Johnson is concerned and the issue of anti Semitism as far as Jeremy Rubin is concerned yet many voters prepared and willing to look past all that so what the lying on the willing to do that Rachel was so extraordinary I think is it it's the police left options so you've got to choose one or the other so which is that what Swan Do you hate that he is not what you want you to like it which you know I think of it and I think you action you know that are posting then who are you going to pull it either at the bank but you've got to hold your nose and to swallow. And I think it a lot of people are going to feel that uncontrolled The interesting thing will they will have to pay out whether people are so angry about the other options on offer that they decide whether the best says I dealt with the choice that they didn't do you become a this is a philosophical question just finally last 30 seconds do you become a great politician Jew in the campaign or when you're a leader. I think the campaign can be a time to do so but in the end it's when you get to St Francis had the chance to do that already there's some way of judging him but I think it's really how you go. On looking for the next leader of both parties are not spotted talent that's the scariest bit of hill that will be interesting Michel thank you Tom Michael White former political editor of The Guardian Rachel so nice to thanks Rachel political columnist for The Times but look we're going to talk to our panel of experts shortly it's the final day before voting tomorrow if you've got any questions anything on your mind a lot of people text the problems and thank goodness you're not talking to politicians or going to talk to experts who can get some answers so 85058 is the text number if you want to send the main or you can call is 080-859-0969 extension 3 we will introduce the panel very shortly let's have a look at that last hour 20 past 6 place is full of like Dr political leaders especially in the final hours of the election campaign trying to get the backing of undecided voters Police say a man who killed a 14 year old boy in East London committed a shocking and brutal murder and Time magazine has named gratitude as its Person of the year much to city a woman down by the way and a champion not that it matters they've won the group anyway but Dana Mozart who they're playing could qualify if they win this my 22 minutes call no one nil down or less able to travel the latest on the m 4 this is employee still and it's the eastbound side way joins the m 5 it all means for a so it was a main carriageway close at just had an update saying it's reopen it's that's all lanes open Q.'s are backing up to 22 that's where it joins the m 49 but it's also having a knock on effect the m $48.00 original 7 bridge as traffic comes off that is well the 6 in Lancashire heading south and junctions that he wanted some spree all traffic is being held at 10 people in place now that's to claim a breakdown so it shouldn't be too long but nothing getting through the m one in West Yorkshire heading south 41 at car gate that's the accident scene where they can. The motorway and the queues are still there because one lane still closed at 41 and the queues back up to junction 44 there's been a 2nd stint in the queues as well 442431 lane closed the m 6 in the West Midlands heading south approaching am 5 there are cues from 10. The m 6 southbound at 6. Still closed to deal with another accident and a lorry still at the scene. Northbound 13 at Bedford one closed for breakdown and $25.00. For another breakdown that backing up to 13 at Staines on the. Tour we've got 2 lanes closed at Lakeside at Junction 30. Junction 2 at the door and then to change so that's a big queue that one. Side trains as well of using the East Coast main line north of Newcastle heading up towards Edinburgh Waverley because of the overhead lines at dram it has caused major problems this no I think the alternative be to check ahead of the match and fight like travel. Across the b.b.c. With so many voices. Make sure you. Stick to what. Makes claims to. Make sense of a. Long. You're listening to 5 Live Drive the next 45 minutes of the program we're going to be talking to a panel of experts who hate to answer any questions that you might have about the election so many of you have been getting in touch with us of course ahead of the polls tomorrow even get in touch this now 8558 on the tax you can tweet us at b.b.c. 5 Live or of course pick up the phone come on the radio speak live to our experts and get an answer to your question the number is 080-859-9693 So let me introduce you to a panel a correspondents Chris Morris and Sophie Hutchinson from our reality check team or hey with us and also say Hi Good to see you all site Raese Campbell who is professor of politics at King's College London thank you for taking the time to speak this raises I want to start by putting a question to you which has come in on a text a little bit earlier on today all about exit polls could be talking a lot about exit polls and this one has come in from call in while saying I have never been asked who I voted for in 37 years I don't know anyone who has so how do they work with the really crucial thing about exit polls is the mother measuring change between elections so the posters go back to the same constituencies to the same polling stations and what they look at is what's the difference from last time so that's completely different from any other poll and that might be why she's never been asked maybe she's not one of those polls because one person might be lost 10 times for example I'm with you that's a good one but I also want to bring in Chris I guess what's bringing safety as well because we got lots of questions for them I wonder if we could maybe go to a question on policing for Chris which has come into us this is a recorded question from carry on policing Let's have a listen to that so a massive thing for me at the moment is black crime comes to way worrying about him burgled so because it before now live Damiana never really bothered me because I'm not like a frightened person both isn't a bad day it makes you a bit more conscious doesn't it if someone broke in and I feel like now you. If. Not in Virgo which to me is not right so the one question I go on the ons to raise when are we going to put in more funding so walls please send actual on the street placing get an intelligence information and find out who's committing these burglaries because to make they don't all. Yeah I mean it's something we hear a lot and have heard a lot throughout the campaign I mean the conservatives have made great play of this of this number they use We're going to put another 20000 police in England and Wales not all of the necessary frontline police on the streets but most of them of course you have to put that in the context of more just over 20000 police have been cut since the coalition 1st came to power in 2010 so by putting these 20000 police in we'd still be slightly below where we were 9 years ago but but certainly ahead of where we are now as for the other main parties I mean Labor are saying they'd recruit slightly more than that 22000 police officers with the priority on what Kerry is talking about neighborhood policing and the Lib Dems say the saying they want to put a 1000000000 pounds into a community policing they're talking a similar figure 20000 police officers one of the issues of course it takes time to train these people you can just click your fingers and they're all there so training takes a while so it will take a time it will take some time for all the new recruits to come through but like on other broad subjects all the main parties are saying we are going to increase numbers after these years of austerity we are going to increase what's there but a lot of it will only take us back to where we were decade ago so you have to since also a hit from a reality check team I've got another already a question which has come in for you which is talk we've had so much about the n.h.s. Have away and whether it is going to be sold off the Americans going to get control of it so let's have a little listen to see who's got in touch with us from La mic it's already packed you see the n.r.c. You know. You have a very poor business here that because journalists seen it in a lot in a circle way back again they were. Relieved to finally jugs. You know it was going to happen so yeah I was going to have. Well that's been a big theme throughout this election Labor has claimed that under the Tories. The n.h.s. Would be up for sale and that comes off the back of a leaked document relating to American a new k pre trade deal talks that have been going on and it's clear that the u.s. Pharmaceutical market is very interested in the price the u.k. Pays for drugs that was that came up as part of those documents u.s. Trade negotiators have already said they want full market access for the u.s. As part of a future trade deal post Breck's that this is but Boris Johnson has said that absolutely won't happen he's ruled that out completely and the n.h.s. Has historically had a really strong position on negotiating drugs you know it's a large large body and it can go and say no actually we won't pay this much for a drug so actually historically the n.h.s. Has led the way for many countries they see the n.h.s. Negotiating a price and other countries then say well actually weird like a bit of that too so it obviously there's all to play for post bricks that obviously you know where that to happen if that does happen we can't possibly say for sure but I guess that's the kind of general answer to the question. Sophie thank you for that Rosie hello is Tony here. Rosie Campbell professor of politics at Kings College and we're going to clip for you to talk about let's hear from Christine although I see this to mean I would rather. What the people voted for all parties to see that they will do whatever they're going to do with any. Money into their money and I think that leaves I have a good fortune for as really what you believe in but a that's one of the key issues isn't it going into this election Rose is everything being seen through this BRICs it prism do you think well certainly Party support is really divided by breaks into dentity In fact our sense of whether we're leave is a remain as is. Much more important to us now than whether we think we're a conservative supporter or a Labor supporter and if you look at leavers they've really sought it now into supporting the Conservative Party about 90 percent of conservative supporters leavers whereas the remains vote is more divided across the parties support a 2nd referendum but this has become one of the critical dark dividing lines of this election what we won't know till tomorrow unless you know any different in the pulse only difference is how many Labor leavers will vote Conservative will go I mean they've always got 3 options they can vote for Labor they can vote Conservative or they can just sit on their hands and not vote at all Rosie what's your what's your gut instinct this huge swathe across northern England the North East Yorkshire all you know I think every constituency in Lancashire voted to leave us a lot of Labor voters how do you think they'll operate tomorrow we have to remember a lot of previously Labor supporters who were LIFO to the already left Labor So there's already been a lot of sorting So there are fewer people who are still in the labor camp thinking about moving so more of this is around what happens to the breaks that support in those seats where the bags of party still standing and it certainly looks like from polls that that that's really being diminished so some of those x. Labor voters who then which supported Ukip and supported breaks that are they going to vote Conservative is a really important question it's also worth saying Tony that some of them you know might support the breaks apart in obviously in it we know the party stood down in conservative held seats but one of the key questions in those labor late labor leave seats is would the BRICs that party bleed off enough votes from the conservatives to prevent them from taking those seats over Yeah Ok lots more to come guys questions a coming in is a rate of knots Roeser many of your heads up on your next one because this is fascinates me as well call in Wales the answer now but calling well says How do exit polls work I've been asked to 10 you've asked the other yourself one and only . You hang on my I don't know what it was the answer is do you go back to the same polling station so you're looking at change over time Ok all right I know Mr I do know man I've concentrated on economic story 1st it's been a long election guys also I want too much to sit against. As the true and City of just equalized so there's a reason why would you know it's $11.00 right it is $631.00. Home digital b.b.c. Sound speaker. Is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live the b.b.c. News on 5 Live party leaders are making their final pitches to the public with rallies across the u.k. Boris Johnson's been focusing on his message of delivering bricks it's joining visits in West Yorkshire and Darbyshire Well Jerry Corbin has been in Middlesbrough with what he described as a message of hope for his 2 more people have died following the volcanic eruption on New Zealand's White Island takes the official death toll to 8 with 9 others missing a teenager has been found guilty of the murder of a 14 year old Jayden muti who was knocked off a moped and stops to death in East London. And was part of a rival gang aggressive Tomba has been named Time magazine's Person of the year ahead work highlighting climate change Speaking as a u.n. Summit she accused world leaders of hiding behind creative p.r. To avoid taking reelection as news on 5 Live have the sport is dead and as Tony just alluded to it's one all between Manchester City and dynamos Zagreb in their final Champions League group game Gabrielle J.s uses just equalized with a head after Zagreb took an early lead city have already qualified for the knockout stages as group win as Dana can still go through this around 10 minutes left of the fittest half of the city's game attention tends to Tottenham for their much away it by Munich football correspondent John Murray is at the arena Yes not a typically cold December evening here in the area but it does lack an edge this game because we know that by in Munich you've already won the group we know that Tottenham are going through as runners. Hope so we're going to have to see what sort of a team shows a Marine your picks before we can really speculate about what might unfold tonight he's left behind 10 1st team players rested or injured Cain and Allie included have been told to expect a strong buy in team which would have been it Robert leavened off key $27.00 goals this season as by and look to win all 6 group matches for the 1st time of expecting 19 year old Ryan setting young to get his 1st start for Tottenham and for Christian Eriksson whose future beyond this season is still far from certain to get his 1st start under Marine yo So there are 2 Spurs players for a start who will have plenty to play for there should be interesting thank you Jon Jon will have full commentary on 5 Live Sports from 8 o'clock this evening Kelly Kates with the build up from 7 other football lines to bring you Duncan Ferguson will remain as caretaker boss for Sunday's trip to Manchester United follows the excellent whenever Chelsea last weekend he is the B.B.C.'s chief football writer Phil McNulty Ferguson's impact on and off the field in what game has galvanized the support and I think in the absence of the media candidates it makes perfect sense for evident to keep him in charge and it's now quite easy to see as time extending into the car broke a quarter final into less than next week. Elsewhere ranges manages Steven Gerrard is on the verge of signing a new day let's I broke since all 2024 while former Rangers caps in general good to so has been appointed Napoli's new manager less than 24 hours after they sacked Carlo Ancelotti to cricket and Graeme Smith has been named the acting director of South Africa cricket for 3 months his appointment comes ahead of England's 4 match Test series starting on Boxing Day Sri Lanka close the opening day on $202.00 for 5 in the 1st Test against Pakistan it's the 1st time Test cricket has returned to Pakistan since the terror attack in 2009 in as women were played as 2nd o.d.i. Against Pakistan in the early hours of tomorrow morning and his shop so hopes they can continue that momentum after Dani wides in time Bowman scored tons in Monday's 1st o.d.i. When they were incredible I think probably quite contrasting that show does as more than one way to score a 100 so I think for Dan it's a great confidence based back up the order where I think everyone knows she wants to back in the same with Tam she'll probably say it was one of the most 480200 people that's come international 100 so amazing for those 2 and a great platform for us going on in the series and ahead of the 1st Test between Australia and New Zealand in Perth tomorrow a minute's silence will be observed and players will wear black armbands to want to victims of the volcano in New Zealand for the commentary on 5 Live Sports Extra from 4 30 tomorrow morning that's the latest from a.b.c. Sports this is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live on digital b.b.c. Sound small speak I. Only say the travel the m 4 is all open again but with long delays so at Junction 20 where it joins the m 5 it all means break that's why we have the emergency repairs that were going on to the queues are still there backing up to $22.00 the m 4 joins the m $49.00 interchange is also having a knock on effect to the 7 bridge the am $48.00 and a full update in the next 10 minutes 5 lines east is you know on digital b.b.c. Sound it's a small screen come along this is going to be Christian radio so we've assembled a politically. Moving to the Avengers to get us through the final half hour of the program Chris Morris is here for me hours check Hello Chris hello Tony similarly Hello I'm Rosie Campbell professor of politics at King's College London hello Rosalee learn Rosie something just occurred to me how do I exit polls work. When you know I didn't hear the 1st question is going to get. The 1st question but I didn't answer either because of all the abuse but anyway there we got there in there looks right Chris I'm going to come to you by the way if you want to ask a question it's your last chance because of course midnight tonight the voting starts tomorrow you won't hear any politics on far left most of you got any last minute questions get me now a 5 day tour you can call us on our way 285909693 Chris the next question is for you and it's on defense attorneys Danielle 105. 6. So because of those things in the Navy I'm worried to very defense what's going to happen in the future whether they're going to the government is going to so for the defense and he works really well it's like nuclear try to things like that So Chris what one of the one of the positions of the main parties on this Ok so I'm not exactly sure where Danielle lives but I mean I don't know if she can vote for the s.n.p. But it sounds like she wouldn't want to because if you want to keep it you create a terrine there are 2 parties that are saying they would scrap it all together one is the s.n.p. In Scotland the other is the Greens both of the main parties the Tories and Labor say they are committed to the replacement for Trident which is going to cost a lot of money over the next few years and both of them say they will continue to spend above the NATO target of 2 percent of g.d.p. On defense the Liberal Democrats also say they would maintain what they call a a minimum nuclear deterrent so I think they would replace Trident but perhaps have a. Slightly less ambitious nuclear deterrent policy in the future so. The Tories cough and say Want to get rid of Trident but let's take them at their word in their manifesto it's very clear in the past we know Jeremy Corbyn been a supporter of the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament but the labor manifesto says Labor would keep tried and replace it with a a new system with new subs and new warheads in the future Chris this is this answer will have to be based on anecdotal evidence I guess but to what extent does defense play a part in any election campaign we know that the n.h.s. Has broken through big time on this occasion does does defense with a policy on defense where many votes are I think it depends in this election not so much probably I mean obviously Danielle's vote is won but no I mean I think at times perhaps you know during the Cold War when there were big tensions with the Soviet Union it would be much more in people's minds at the moment this is obviously in terms of the big external relations issue it was you know the breaks in the relationship with the European Union and then the bread and butter issues that people think about in everyday lives health and education and that sort of thing so I think I want to ask you a question which is coming to us some it's all about child care it's an issue which matters to so many people in this election campaign let's have a listen. Mother and Baby fitness class a sweaty mama Bolton it's called and at the moment my little boy comes with make it to the classes but obviously you know going forward if I want to grow the business traps want to put in you know into child care so it's you know what a bit there but for 40 other going to be changes made to you know working class people you know there's things like childcare vouchers so if you earn a certain amount you get free I was childcare so at the moment I've got a white so my little boy turns 3 until I get any 3 hours so it's it's all arriving around not that's that's a concern. Well the parties are all slightly different on child care the Lib Dems are the most generous of all of them the conservatives are very much sticking to their current position which is that as. As was just being said about the age of when your child is 3 years old you get 15 hours free childcare if you earn below $100000.00 a year you get 30 hours free childcare and that continues for 4 year olds right up until school age but Labor says it would increase the office so that all 2 year olds would get 30 hours free childcare and 3 year olds and 4 year olds and it would work towards extending that for one year olds but the Lib Dems are saying they want to offer children from the age of 9 months right up to school age 35 hours of free childcare so it is really quite a much more generous policy thing is for working parents it's not just about the cost is it it's about the times the number of people who are saying I've got to get back at 6 o'clock to pick my child up from after school club or from necessary and that can be so difficult people particularly reliant on public transport or any of the parties looking at more flexible hours or anything like that so that there are some policies around wrap around care the conservatives are saying they're putting a 1000000000 pounds into trying to extend wrap around care for school children mainly but there's no getting away from the fact that if your child is in early is nursery that the day ends early and that you need to get home away from a job it is a very difficult. Solution to find you want to bring in a question a couple hay at which are very similar which might be completely up on for Steve says on the tax night 5 a $58.00 what happens if the Conservatives win but Boris Johnson loses his seat a map matting Cambridgeshire a similar one is saying what would happen in the event of any party leader losing that constituency seat well what would happen and what's Constitution even quite a probably slightly different thing. In that there is no constitutional requirement that the Prime Minister must have a seat in the House of Commons in fact Douglas Hume if I'm pronouncing a surname correctly he was a member of the House of Lords when he was prime minister and he gave up that and he had a period of time while he wasn't actually in either chamber so it is constitutionally possible but would it be politically possible would would voters put up with it I certainly think that a loyal conservative m.p. Would probably take a the seat so they could be a by election and Boris Johnson could stand but would he be able to face the public again having lost his seat I'm not sure and if that were to happen Woods would Boris Johnson nor would he be able to go into the House of Commons if he's not an m.p. But he promises questions I'm kind of going had myself that I think he can because that but I this is getting beyond my expertise I think he can because I believe that there is no constitutional amendment but maybe Robert Hazel from the Constitution Unit will call in and correct me so my mind was just racing that I had so many questions that all came 3 rightly rightly. Got another one for you actually here just before we break for the headlines this is a kind of a universal political debate Christine Bristol says Where has the middle ground in politics gone I've no party that I want to vote for over the heady days of Tony Blair and the national cohesion optimism and self belief even John Major united country John Major Cause when for Mondeo Man the so-called middle ground is Chris right rosy and if he is is it down to is the polarization of the moment down to bricks again Well we have got a polarized nation of the 2 largest parties shifting the conservatives the rights and the Labor Party to the left and I like the callers are absolutely right in the voters haven't necessarily moved that much but our 1st past the post election system does push us towards the larger parties and breaks it is a huge part of this because this being a realignment where the parties are trying to think what where is that. For support now I think in the longer term both parties will if they want to stick with this election system they want to get a majority are going to have to reach out to a broader audience again or we're just going to keep having either hung parliaments all very small working majorities which makes it very difficult to govern which will make it very interesting if it is a hung parliament this time around about what the parties do decide to do about their leaders write we will a time a few seconds before they're gone so just to remind you we've got our panel of experts here Chris Morris and Sophie which in some from reality check I'm Rosa Campbell professor of politics at King's College London Chris I'm just going to squeeze one in to you before we go assuming Chloe is not asked earlier Mahler's this has to say this here exactly Martin Hackney does it sound familiar that clearly. Says which party has the best policy on building social housing Can you explain. Their policies on Social housing Yeah I mean there's a lot of promises on housing in the manifestos So Labor says it it's going to put forward 75000000000 pounds over 5 years for 100000 new council homes a year and 50000 affordable homes a year through housing associations by 2024 and that's a big promise because you have to go back to the late 1970 s. To find the last time 100000 council houses were built in a year but Labor says it's absolutely committed that it sinks the housing crisis is one of it and especially affordable housing one of its key issues the conservatives to talk about building a 1000000 houses over 5 years it's less clear how many of those would be in that affordable range but they're also very keen as other parties are on the crossover between the housing crisis and the climate change debate saying we've also got to not only build new houses which are well insulated and you know as carbon neutral as they can be but also change a lot of existing housing stock to make sure they can help us meet our climate change targets and then you got the Liberal Democrats also promising to build hundreds of thousands of houses by 2024 I think. $300000.00 a year including $100000.00 for social rent now all these numbers sound great one of the problems is who's going to build them and that's when we then cross over to another policy which of course is immigration because we know that there are a big shortages in the construction sector of the people who are going to come in and build houses all very well saying we'll have an immigration policy to bring the brightest and the best from around the world as well as the architects we need the people who are going to do the hard physical labor of building those houses. Just begs another question Sophie to you just before we go to the headlines Chris there talking about claims and aspirations does reality check have a look back after after a term of Parliament look at manifestos and say what percentage of. That have aspirations actually happen well that is a very good question and something perhaps we should definitely put on our calendar for next year today. Because you know we do look at whether promises can be fulfilled whether they're realistic or not but to look back after perhaps a particularly in the 1st 100 days to see whether things have been put into action and then to see later on is a very good idea just because I started to say one of the issues of course is that a lot of the promises a 5 year promises and the last Parliament only been 2 years in it's been dominated by one issue breaks it very little has happened and before that we didn't actually exist so we knew well look I tell you I'll give you a promise Tony if I'm still here and you're still here in the 2025 for wherever we are we'll come back and do that that's exactly what you have just kept you to him work for another 5 years Ok I think you have a reason to exist thanks marvelous he has exactly right so more from Chris more from Sophie more from Rosie am and Chloe very shortly after we've had the headlines final look at the headlines on Dr tonight 647 this is 5 Live drive hours to go in the general election campaign we're also hearing that 8 people have now died in the . Has been convicted of murdering a boy who was not. On the. 22. There was a breakdown. And that's what we had. Because of various. Change and. Because it's an increase. But with cross country. Rivals. Same for the. Same old clothes lights kind of thing but the 3 year old year old. Joins a Unicon I'm going to die from this actual real life actual real life you can enjoy the crocodile from the day Unicon Christmas songs like breakfast back tomorrow from 6 listening to 5 Live Drive the next 10 minutes we're going to continue speaking to our panel who hate to answer any questions you've got ahead of the general election . If you'll get in touch as I say 10 minutes left 5 a 58 on the text you can tweet us at b.b.c. 5 Live or pick up the phone and give us a call come alive on the radio it's $599693.00 sites still with us Chris Morris and Sophie Hutchinson are correspondents from the b.b.c. Reality check team and also with us Rosie Campbell professor of politics at King's College London s safety but one question about medication let's have a listen it's from Charlotte in which Michael says because I'm a collector as well and I rely on daily medication to balance it was especially with with having a baby a. Week the n.h.s. At all costs of that going to change where is the medication itself going to have an impact what's going to happen to all the medications Well Charlotte I imagine should be eligible for free medication for free prescriptions as somebody with epilepsy and clearly you know it's it can be an anxious time if you rely as it sounds she does own medication to keep well. Particularly you know if you might have a change in government or something but you know to be reassuring really none of the parties have said the cost of medication will change clearly there is a Kaviak there there are question marks over any future trade deal post breaks that we were talking about that earlier but the prime minister has said despite this Leaks report from the American u.k. Pre trade deal talks that actually he's ruled out any changes in terms of the. If you tickle industry coming in from the us in increasing the price of medication now in terms of policies amongst the parties Labor is different from the other main parties in that it's promising to offer free prescriptions for everybody it's worth bearing in mind that the vast majority of prescriptions are already free and if you have a long term illness as Charlotte does epilepsy or if you're a pensioner if you've just had a baby or if you're in full time education you get free prescriptions so only 10 percent of prescriptions that are actually dispensed are actually paid for but still labors saying everybody they should be free for everyone but in terms of Charlotte they should stay for as free as they already presume if there were any changes to medication or anything is not going to happen overnight is that there would be a gradual change you'd be informed presumably 3 adults I mean Chris is the expert on breaks it but I mean in terms of these negotiations they're going to go on and on and on I mean. We know that American pharmaceutical companies want more access to the n.h.s. But we also know that in trade talks our government can say no you can't have it obviously the quid pro quo for that it is that if if we don't give something to them something they want they want to give us something that we want and their market but that's how trade negotiations work but if the government whatever government it is wants to say no you can have more access to the n.h.s. In the medicine prices stay the same that it can do that. Rose The question for you one allocated to you anyway Rosie Campbell's with a professor of politics at King's College London this is a question many of his mind has Tom in south London which is a key marginals whose results allow it to be announced 1st tomorrow night in other words how long do I have to stay up. Well I think when it comes to staying up last time 10 o'clock was the was the key moment because the exit poll proved to be so accurate how do you work exit polls Oh no no no no no no. No I mean if you really desperate to go to bed you could take a risk and go to bed at half past 10 she lot of the seats that come in early in the evening all among the safest seats so you probably are going to need to go to bed and get back up again you know in the middle of the night some of the interesting things to watch though we were previously discussing each year and Walton. Seats is looking close people are going to be in the middle of the night now and I think is yes of 3 interestingly Sunderland's traditionally one of the 1st if not the 1st isn't it and we were talking about this earlier and actually although that were No No doubt the labor hold it will be interesting to see their share of the vote in the turnout that might give us a clue as to what Labor leavers planning absolutely yes selling staying up all night to me now I think something else is a huge task for a race against time to see who declares 1st both of them of the Northeastern states that will be interesting to see how how Labor's votes looking out there so they'll be significant in themselves on the I suppose we could do we trust polls anymore I mean remember the referendum we all went to bed thinking. Maynard won well and were good but the key declaration there was Sunderland at Sherman when Sunderland went leave that's when he thought something's up here this is this is looks like the direction it's going and just out of interest of all 3 of you do you all stay up through that what is your strategy don't know if I'll tell you now you're probably in bed by 9 Chris I don't know so I start with you Chris what will you do tomorrow what I do have to work the next day and sort of look vaguely presentable on the telly I mean obviously I can come on the radio with you and hide from your webcam and sort of look a bit scruffy but yes I do need so I'll do I don't know if it gets tense and it's really close it's hard to get to bed isn't it that's exactly my alarm I think I'm going to get up in the middle of the night around 3 ish $330.00 have a bit of a lead come out get back up again at about 5 and go back to bed wait for my 2 year old to wake up I'm going to say a 2 year old. I think if that exit poll is surprising all my best attentions about going to bed and getting up again with decide. What you call surprising Well we are currently expecting a small conservative majority and I think you feel that if the exit poll confirms that I think we would probably feel quite come to going to there for a few hours if it's really close if you want to go that it's going to be difficult to get it so you know another hung parliament Ok we got for myself let's try to run through some more questions Chris this one's to you Brian says having been concerned for some time about the border issue between Northern Ireland in the Republican who should I vote for if in good faith I wish the border to remain open Ok I'm presuming Bryan doesn't live in Northern Ireland not import stop Ok so I mean almost anyone to be honest because I mean you know the Lib Dems want to stay in the e.u. Therefore the border will definitely remain as open as it is now Boris Johnson's breaks a deal keep the border as open is as it is now and less in the future people in Northern Ireland vote to leave those parts of the deal and I think Labor would keep the border wrote as open as is now as well so I think it's more an issue for parties in north London at the moment that border stays open the bigger issue is is the border between between Northern Ireland and Great Britain and the extent of Czechs there. On trade across the Irish Sea Boris Johnson we know has said there won't be any that's not what his withdrawal agreement says I did he won't speak up on this one but it's a question from Jane in Southampton he says if Labor get in how long before I can expect my 40000 pounds as a waspy woman I'm still working I'm struggling at times I need another 4 years to get I can do that I mean hello Jane. I grew up in Southampton so looking after my city sickly. 40000 pounds so what Labor has that they're going to spend 58000000000 . Recompensing that the waspy women the women lost out of the change in the pension age and they get it's going to be staggered over that 5 years and I believe it will be equal installments so if she thinks she's own if you think you're owed 40000 pounds Jane I think it would be 8000 pounds a year over 5 years Rosie quick one for you Lucy says this is in way of just self praise actually loving this evening's radio so refreshing to hear facts without the spin thank you 5 Live though she goes on to say I'm still not sure who to vote for and that's interesting that's why the politicians have been running around like bunkers today trying to get those last minute undecideds do last minute undecideds Rosie from your experience always vote or might they they turn into don't know can't be bothered Well historically the last minute undecideds didn't really matter much in elections but if you think about the last election it really did make a difference and we still have quite a large proportion of the people saying that they are undecided and interestingly Felicie there are more women in that group than there are men so about 3 times as many women who are undecided late in the day than men but they're equally likely to vote so quickly particularly c. You'll fight it's probably very important indeed guys that we've got to end it there thank you very much for your time thanks to Chris thanks to. Sorry thanks to Chris thanks Sophie thanks to Rosie as you take to that because the some news just in I need to bring you so thank you guys enjoy tomorrow which is election free and enjoy election now whichever way. We choose to get through. 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The new. Premier League for anyone at this b.b.c. Radio. Shack So coming up for you what changes we'll share is a marine your makers taught and they're already through to the last 16 of the Champions League is group run is up their way against Fine Munich who you'll remember to beat them 72 in October kicked off in that one is it 8 o'clock Manchester City currently Warnell against animals that grab city also through that 5 time Premier League when a direct flight to is with me in the studio Pat Levin and John Murray are in Germany. This is b.b.c. 5. 7 o'clock am 5 life this is Kelly Kates will also be asking you the best strike in Europe is right now to get your thoughts in 850580 at 5 live Sport on social media and remember you can download the full daily podcast every day that week now it's available on b.b.c. Sounds now though with the people that field. Thank you Kelly good evening political leaders of spend the day campaigning across the u.k. In a final push for votes ahead of tomorrow's general election they've been sticking to their cool messages Boris Johnson says only a conservative majority will deliver. Them because they've had this opportunity to go and play in the in the Champions League knowing that qualification is already assured that feel quite going into training during the week. Believe or not. They'd already qualified in the Champions league of 1st 2 games remaining and gave an opportunity to give someone a chance on time for us to play quite well and. It was a big moment for me and hopefully they'll be the case for some of the maybe a few months that's the trick then isn't it is that you know there are only so many times that you're going to get that opportunity in a team successful is that the Manchester United. So it's about grasping that and making sure you catch the manager site for all players really you have some players who are not on the team. Especially spars. You want to impress every opportunity you get you want to try and impress in training but much stays is the time to do some of these players can perform said oversaw than you might find yourself more game time in an important game so although it may seem a day or to some people. Obviously by the same time the squad players who. Should be with the attitude of season opportunity so what shows they really are come for then John Well actually both coaches both Hansie Flake who's the interim coach of play in Munich and chose a Marine you know I think of played it very similarly in that top them have made 6 changes from the weekend by in Munich have made 5 so they had to be careful with the players who got little niggles and also the players they want to rest so I'll deal with them 1st of all who as you'll probably be aware actually left $1015.00 players behind either injured or arrested including Kane and Allie So the 6 changes feature tonight a 1st start for the club finally for Ryan setting you'll The 19 year old who was signed from follow in the summer a 1st appearance in September for Kyle Walker Peter as a right back and also and this I think reflects the sort of things that Darren was saying there 1st starts and a Marine yo for Christian Eriksen and Giovanni last Celso So certainly you know there are players right from the start he would say that this is actually quite an important night for so the top them team just to run you through it in full as an eager in goal a back 4 up walk up eat as other viral fight and rows then in midfield says Sokol and Dyer the captain and then Eriksson sesson young and Lucas Mourad is playing up front of the bench Austin the goalkeeper Sanchez young tanned kana scape one Yamma is back on the scene so on and Troy Parrett. Really through the buy in team as well 5 changes. On the bench tonight so the team is no yeah. Saying Martinez and Davis came make in front of the defense can now preety our goal Coleman Parry search and they've told us by n o it's been reported that they've got another player on the injured list David the Austrian International who they say in typical German style he has a slight.