Tansey says gambling of watching t.v. So you're absolutely right so thank you very much indeed for that right Nick has got the sports news what's going on here Motors appointment for England this time in cricket the creators been beaten in their 2nd t 20 international against New Zealand in Wellington chasing 177 to win they fell to 3 for 2 after just 8 balls down a top scoring Phangan with 39 ball out there for $155.00 it sees the series level one all with a 3rd match of Nelson to come on choose daycare full rerun of that 2nd t 20 s. On 5 Live Sports Extra right now thanks very much Nic now good morning welcome to Saturday Breakfast If you're just joining us at 7 o'clock this morning we are looking at one of the key issues of the general election environment 29 saying of course has been the year of extinction rebellion political parties are trying hard to win the environmental vote the government has announced a halt to fracking while Labor has pledged to spend 60000000000 pounds on energy saving home improvements is worth pointing out isn't it that it's. Labor and green policy to can fracking altogether but the government has announced an indefinite suspension of yeah some opinion polls suggesting that more than half of us will be influenced by climate change when we fight and that is particularly true for voters under 25 so if that is you who would you be voting for and why we've got 3 activists who are well under 25 to talk about this thank you so much for being with us we've got Harrison Ron Clark 19 labor activist from bronze grave Morant morning tea Harrison. And so few more be also 19 member of the Conservative Party morning Sophie. Good morning and Simon Kelly's 20 and he slipped on morning to Simon. So let's start with you Harrison How important is the environment for you as any see this election this is the climate change election we've got is then 12 years to decarbonise but that was last year so we've now got 11 years to colonise in fact the youth structure climate has come out endorsing the green policy on the Labor Party should I sign that we were the only 2 parties that were taking the issue seriously their dens and that's always a top 20452050 I parse it now it's 23rd in line with the i.p.c.c. Report we've given and that's exactly what we intend to do and we've got a plan that sets out exactly how we're going to do it. It may be should be the climate change election Harrison but it's not it's the Bracks election I think it's the great selection if you can call it a direct election but the people who are struggling to make ends meet people who haven't got enough money to put food on the table people are out of food by extending our great selection this is awful death how does that translate how does tackling environmental issues translate to food on the table for you Well climate change is a class issue I mean at some point there's going to we're going to start I mean we were already well within the midst of the climate crisis and but where you know somewhat lucky and kind of we're not feeling it too badly right now at some point we are going to stop feeling it stop it's going to stop him influence imports things like it's going to start gets after the people who are going to suffer and 1st of all are going to be the working class people Ok if there was the fastest route to the 2nd status let's have a chat with so I think she's also nonstate us recession from the kids have to policy says Sophie what do you think it came quite a bit of criticism for the fracking decision saying from you know all the other policies one of full ban on fracking the conservatives have decided to pose it but it's just a bit of an election stunt do you think your party has the right green credentials to appeal to the youth vote. I think that this moment in time is a very easy to anything down it is actions done I think well a bit cynical perhaps in politics at the moment after the last few years I think the Tory party is looking is and is taking the climate crisis seriously. They just may be taking a more kind of steady approach to it we understand that there is a time limit we are under pressure we don't deny that but we also understand that the drastic changes that we need to make need to be fully reset 30 supported before we introduce them to make sure that when they aren't causing more harm than good Simon it's really interesting that. In my kind of experience and what we've talked about this earlier with with somebody who engages with young people young students about what it what it is they want for that from their politicians they want authenticity when it comes to the environment but even with that they are still more inclined to be part of a grassroots movement like extinction rebellion or the school Streisand set or the night all to affiliate themselves with a particular political party because they don't believe in traditional politics yeah. Yeah how come you do. Oh I think it's clear that any such a change to change our current policies in politics are. Going to be enacted to change so is a single and being both both because if you look at the moment you are to just green lighted a new gas fired. Power Station when we knew it was coming you know supply the grid so yes you do need. To forecast a bit can move to real change. The party for a lot of its. I mean how are some. Great terms of Praxair and as an issue to you it's got to be up there pretty high has an even though climate change is is obviously front and center 5th for you personally you've got to kind of recognize that the practice is the biggest here breaks it is a big issue. From the community that are come from when we're talking about German election preps it is something that a lot people care about that I do know a lot of people who are really policy that comes up to Sherman elections really important obviously I think that part it's got the right stance on Bret's at the start that can bring the country together after so many ideas of division and we didn't follow Crean have to have had we didn't go green if this is the climate change election for you why not nail your colors to the mall and just leave it to one side because that's what you do if you vote for any of the main parties you know the and just go great well because the Labor Party has great credentials that are while the South like the Green Party I mean we are the ones that brought a great new deal in there in so they might assume a bridge Posix we were the ones that start talking about colonization by $23.00 we were the ones that launched a motion to declare a target measure c. In Parliament in my area there though the green policy had actually put forward implement way before but it just didn't get the rating the it needed when it eventually got through it did come through on time that's under the Labor auspices there also I think it was just because the Russian about changes in leadership over the last few years and how to recover House very very longstanding green credentials that way out last not Caroline Lucas or anybody else you know in Parliament and what. That the risk of running the Dome of the body in fear of the other day what are we talking about here we took about him ride to get by can now have again a lot made for what has nothing to me these are the kind of things that we say people can do you know in their own lives but German court has been fighting for you know things. I mean back in the day they were going to encode the Green New Deal but feel that talking about pink solar panels on people's houses I mean even the last Labor government I mean I don't think they went nearly far enough but they were talking about this and obviously he was voting for that for all of these current proposals to subsidise green energy and solar panels and things like that we that was brought in by Perot So there's a lot of things I mean but also as a psycho been his green credentials he was talking about some of the policies that are a bit more radical a bit more in line with what people are exams or cars or Cortez we're talking about in the us or start talk about recently as a sign that was happening why did for this kind of conversation started our society was about bench you know it we're going to have a platform that has now Sophie what about you with pricey you leave or you remain or do you support a 2nd referendum where are you. I lower my now I think I've probably someone here believes in reform home and then I think that it can be a really great system it just needs a few tweaks it just needs a little bit improvement in anything that you know hasn't really been drastically improved very kind of kind of since it's an initiation in which we're in very different circumstances it's going to function quite as well in today's kind of modern day Think side city and I think there is a lot of space to reform mine and I do think that at this point after 3 years. All of the information that's come out I do think that you know perhaps it is time to put a 2nd vote perhaps it is time to kind of let let's have another Let's have a think about it you know I don't see how it can just kind of damage and wanes kind of make sure this is still something in the country is for the hind which make it a little easier on me then come out how soon do you want to come in there or Simon who is it wants to come in the go ahead. Our pitching if that's true and I think that's a sop in really I think that the route that we can't been discussing so far is to us forward I think that. You can't turn around and do what people want to do which is revive I think that's really deep irresponsible I mean even just you know going out and even slogans like stop a response well you got 17400000 people in this country a lot of valid reasons to do except as a side we've also got new economic arguments coming out we've got to change you know we know things. Are passionate about it late in 26 things like I'm from the Tony bad. Tradition of that I deposit so I'm completely for sec referenda because I think it's a lot of hype to negotiate a sensible deal. That's the best way to get the deep divisions that we currently face with all right all 3 of you thank you very much indeed for getting up muscle and having a chat with us this morning clogged labor from. With the Conservative Party and Simon Kelly 20 and a lip 1030 minutes past 7 this is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live on digital b.b.c. Sound this small speaker that was interesting he was an interesting listener going to speak to the green poll taken in the Persian army all sorts of clubs I wish he could have been yesterday when I was watching the rugby as I was trying to explain the rules of rugby to my wife because it was a mosque the clocks in abject rubbish just the words going to go what does this mean. It's this and if you say it with enough confidence yeah sort of feels like it's probably about right I don't conceal Qur'an. Yeah. Well not just a if I don't I have. We know each other well enough he has fair enough but I mention this only and I used a slightly stronger word for what it was I'm also the class of. Various people going to God with James said offside ref I shouted at one point how does offside work in rock big they're all the whole False No idea to be that I've been through if that was pretty repeats they defend a bit around the cup. Yes but I sort of. Rugby support is. Just about we're going to get the weather forecast from Philip Avery. It's been it's been pretty serious the weather in the south of England in particular hasn't it. Good morning yes things good deal quieter today across many parts of the British Isles if you look at the northern part of Scotland is still really quite windy here some of the gusts already in excess of 45 miles an hour staying for the good part of the day in the sunshine breezy and then once you get into the nozzle and into the north east of the mainland quite a bit of cloud around here. Tempering the feel of the day to say the very least and there will be some rain from that cloud for a good part of the day further to the west there's a better chance of seeing some sunshine but here even a lot of cloud Despite being quite a bit of dry weather around temperatures and arrange in the sunshine. High of 16. You're closer to 9 degrees and all the violence a more straightforward story here it's a day mainly dry some sunshine around there of the limits of cloud and the cloud really gets his act together you'll find the all cherry burst of rain but nothing but many areas will stay dry $8.00 to $12.00 will cover it and finally to England and Wales the early belles of rain that was across was in the Southwest gradually creeping its way further east across the southern half of the England and Wales sky is falling all behind but then rain moving back into the southwest of both Wales and England later on the staff that in the north of England the rain on the breeze such as it is in a range of $9.00 to $14.00. Cross the u.k. This is b.b.c. 5 Live Sunday breakfast. It is 7 minutes past 7 great to have you with us this morning you listening to 5 Live breakfast with Chris Warburton and we had rather hoped to be wall to wall rugby this morning and celebrating it in the world . When But it wasn't to be a they were outplayed by a tactically c. Puck and ridiculously strong South Africa's side rugby a traditional white sport really in South Africa but their captain sire Khaleesi grew up very poor in a township. Bid. For everything good the team has been you know we face a lot of challenges. But you know the people who saw you could go to be honest we are still going through the. Week to. Come to for different reasons and we came to the one who wanted to achieve a really good we've done that to show that we can pull together with the team has some stories were saying was Sonny McLaughlin a little earlier on just as a younger boy he was saying you know we were more concerned as to where our next meal was coming from and to get to this heady high and to be left in the World Cup as the 1st black captain of South Africa is just an incredible story let's talk to 2 men 2 other men who know what it's like to win the World Cup Matt Dawson Greyson been part of that same in Japan over the past 7 ways Good morning chaps Good morning good morning good morning 1st though I mean let's talk about South Africa because this was just the super effort from the Springboks and tactical brilliance really. Yeah there is there is there's no way that we could follow the. The effort and energy the England put in to that game they were simply taken apart by South Africa in all facets of the play off the field tactically. Resurrect arise most the South African coach just reading like a book the full everyone with what we're now calling the conspiracy theory of. Going to try the same or why they have it all tournament and yet they had these wonderful options and. Methods of play the England just couldn't couldn't handle and on and on top of that Chris the passion and the emotion because of that story that you just mentioned there was they were rampaging and England simply did not have any answers how significant Paul was called sinkers departure from the game so early on because you know you get a lot of people. Off if he had stayed he would have been oh so different but he's one guy. Yeah absolutely and obviously figured significantly and in the bill that we talked about him a lot because he's emerging as one of the best players in his position in the world and we were hoping for another world class performance from him as he did in the semifinal but that's the game. There are ruby accidents that do happen it was his it was his own player we collided with there was nothing malicious in it but in terms of taking the wind out of his sails 2 and a half minutes to lose a to lose a pivotal player the thing from him it would change the result Chris but but it is one of those things another thing that didn't go England's way was to find out why they were late to the game here. In a in a pew Julie logistically detailed plan you end up late for the biggest gave me a lot of just just yeah and then simply goes off and you think oh God we got Yeah well here we go that's exactly what we were thinking like for the game and also sloppy really mad Were you surprised at some of the handling errors and then we just put that down to nerves. I think a Also put it down to the pressure that South Africa were putting on England. It was the 1st time really in the competition 1st time for a while moving back to the 6 Nations as well where England haven't been able to get more than parity that they had no momentum they had no front foot ball. And part of the tactics that South Africa. Put together were around the breakdown you know they wanted to slow the break down they want to slow the ball down they were going down for lots of injuries there was no pace in the game and it was it was a fantastic tactic and it were brilliantly well in the 1st half and England was really looking around bereft of ideas and didn't know how to position themselves to get into attacking position they were trying to set piece moving new brand new set piece moves that didn't necessarily need to be done. And they and they did play in a similar why they did against the All Blacks in South Africa already 4 and they were ready for it with bells on both of you must have had times when you've been in your changing room and dignitaries have turned up you know important people have turned up to pass on their congratulations whether it's from your own side or the opposition you've probably seen these video and pictures of fact the clerk in his under crackers shaking hands with Prince he. Absolutely ridiculous. I don't know if you've ever been in kind of inappropriate dress for such an occasion yourselves when you know someone important as rocked up at a time when you've been getting yourself sorted. I mean I haven't I haven't strutted around me under crackers so it's. Not that I think you know parody like. With the you yeah exactly. There I mean there are stories of days gone by of England changing rooms and the old talking and Princess Diana came into the changing room. I like a couple of guys came out of the shower deliberate yes this is nowhere. In view but if you and she was incredibly professional. There they are is did not move they were fixed it was I so I called tact but yeah we have maybe back of the day there were there would have been a few stories around it but now I can safely say that I was wearing shorts most years good and said this the wrong way please because I said to Sonia do you think your mind me asking you this but they you had this article in the b.b.c. Sport website yeah you get some steak for this because you were asked as to your combined England South Africa 15 yeah and it was all England yeah you're going to go on to be honest Got asked me the same question now go on what would you pick it would be all South Africa Ok what a difference. The question was asked on the form when there were no put New Zealand away and South Africa limped past whiles. I was not going to be I was not going to be the former player that left 2 England players out of an all star 15 year and get the abuse from it so listen arm I'm use I'm very thick skinned um used to people from all parts of the world give me plenty of yeah if you if the question was asked after yesterday I can't think of anyone that would have got in that South African saw it so it's been a great tournament I guess you guys are itching to get back home now but it must have been amazing experience for both of you just in terms of you know. Life in Japan but also what's been happening on the page we've been asking our listeners what their moment of the Rugby World Cup has been what's been yours pope. What I was going to tell your lovely Ruby story but you signed under crackers and yeah right I was. Going to number that. Look in the in the middle of the tournament when the typhoon came in and. Japan ground to a halt 24 hour period when we were and in our apartments nobody allowed out we didn't feel the worst of it because we were in city center of Tokyo but you heard the devastation we felt the earthquake and then 12 hours after it calmed down . Scotland the plane Japan in the Yokohama stadium there were volunteers who is houses have been destroyed who were given refuge in the stadium These are world volunteers. And others who came and slept in the stadium overnight so that as soon as they were able as soon as the weather passed the tough it passed they could get on with trying to make preparations to get the tournament back on. And that may sort of its sums up. The some of the countries terms of the people and their ability to cope with devastating conditions and then with humility and. Steadfastness to put on an enormous event and I was there not working as a supporter as a fan and it's the most extraordinary sporting event I've ever been to Wow Ok something to say but very well put as well the Po and if you had to pick one what would you moment. You asked me to pick a moment and well Ok. Fair enough. All right well how about how about if if you take well Paula said so well and say All right well we would all agree with that if you could pick one the moment that was on the pitch a moment a flare a moment of genius. I mean the wise I think the win against New Zealand will go down. I mean in English history is the greatest game that England have ever played given the circumstances . But but seeing Sakal AC and his team on the stage. With his president next to him. Holding the trophy and understanding the story behind all of that was what was something that even even in the dark low moment serving losing the World Cup you suddenly reflected. On actually what is really important day to die young Rugby the rugby had a has had a huge and hopefully will continue to have a huge part to play in in places like South Africa Ok I'm not going to ask you what time you go in last night because Sunday or presumably if you were out with one issue already gave us a bit of an idea earlier on so she when she went early I think she at Africa Hi guys a safe journey home and thanks very much in the. Thanks very much in the back there was an import and so that's their moments of the World Cup thank you for what we're getting from you as well this morning keep getting in touch will play some of those moments as well we're getting some really really good ones so I 5 o 5 if you want to give as yours all at b.b.c. 5 live on social media 727. Let's go grab. A good 6. Things out this week and next thing you know just say screw the race cars free for me and I like to sit back on my life well when we do it that's all chat Michel's these 500 have fun comments it's a hijack at a I've never followed my own I retried. Well that's very odd slightly bizarre is not the system so basically the math on this if he finishes inside the top a he's got the title is that right yeah yeah that's exactly it for Valerie But as to keep the championship alive he needs to win the Grand Prix and hope Hamilton finishes 9th or lower he starting on pole position Bazza So he's in the best possible place but Hamilton has only finished 9th in warm Grand Prix of the 18 so far this year so. It would take something very surprising like an accident or a reliability breakdown something like that for Hamilton not to be crowned world champion later on the saving how having said that that have been a few uncharacteristic errors in getting to this particular point to qualify 5th Yeah absolutely this is actually is lowest qualifying position says the 2017 Brazilian Grand Prix so it wasn't a good day for Hamilton yesterday but it was an incredibly tight qualifying session and that's been the sort of odd thing about this Formula One season is that how more than won 7 of the 1st 9 Grand Prix had basically wrapped up the championship by June time but then since then Ferrari veteran surgeons Red Bull have had a resurgence and the top 3 on the grid later today bought us Vettel and Stepan were separated by less than a 10th of a 2nd in qualifying Suz incredibly close Hamilton was only a couple of tenths bag but that put him in 5th place on the grid so I think he's still comfortably going to finish his other top 8 to wrap up the championship is whether he can win the Grand Prix to win the championship which is always sort of a nice way to do it sure thing and as the teams go what are the kind of big stories of of this last couple of Kong praise for you. Well I think it's got to be for Ari . Qualifying so well they qualified on pole position for the last 6 Grand Prix this is the 1st time that they've had a pole position since the 11th race of the championship in July in Germany so they haven't had the fastest car in qualifying Mercedes but they've still come through to win the majority of the races they've won the last 3 despite not starting from the front of the grid so with Botha starting from the front of the grid you'd have to have your money on him as opposed to win the Grand Prix but Ferrari is sort of resurgent yet at the same time not turning it into victories has been the surprising thing really over the 2nd half of the year just before you go hello by the way. This would be Lewis Hamilton's 6th title of course he's how is he now $34.00 has he given and any indication of how much longer he'll continue to race for and given that you mentioned Ferrari it's quite often said that the great drivers want to drive a Ferrari some point in their career I don't know if that still is true as it always used to be. So to parse that question how long is he to go on for and do you see him ever racing for Ferrari I don't know how long he's going to go on for he seems like the kind of driver that is kind of always imminently on the brink of leaving when you look at all the other stuff he does with his fashion line and is now a position as sort of a climate change warrior and that sort of stuff you think how long is going to be driving these racing cars around in a circle but he always seems to you know step up a new level this year this has been one of his most dominant seasons in Formula One So I think now he's got those or was he has 6 Title can't write it off just yet he will be only one behind Michael Schumacher and lose 7 world titles the statistically the greatest Formula One driver of all time I can't see that he's going to be you know backing out before matching or trying to better that as for Ferrari it's a conversation that Amazon. Had with his boss at Mercedes Tozer was they've discussed whether Howell's and wants to go at the moment he's on a sort of long contract at Mrs eighty's I don't see him going to Ferrari maybe because I think I think if things were slightly different Hamilton's career then he might be tempted by going to Ferrari but he's won he would have won 5 of his 6 titles with Missy is it just seems a bit of a bit of a risk when he's sort of in a in a very good position at the moment Ok Jack good to speak here enjoy it maybe we're hearing from you again with Lewis Hamilton as former one world champion yet again Number 6 would be pretty good. For. $730.00 to get the news from digital b.b.c. Sounds must be going on is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live and the government says working 8 benefits including Universal Credit will rise by the rate of inflation from April ending the payments phrase that's been in place since 2016 Labor says the timing of the announcement is cynical the party says if it comes to power after the election it'll cut the country's carbon emissions by 10 percent through energy saving upgrades to low income households the conservatives say the scheme would wreck the economy. And a man has died and 3 others have been taken to hospital after a car hit a popping culture Esther in Essex in the early hours of this morning a man is being questioned old suspicion of Tony Barclay the Labor peer who's the deputy chair of the government's review of h s 2 says he hasn't had a say on the report's conclusions the government says it's been clear no member of the panel would have a veto Stewart's been in touch with the best moment of the World Cup the World Cup thank you for this to all the little mascots belting out the national anthem of whatever team they were represented around that was good that was nice and I start you know I go back to it again but doing the Welsh songs in Welsh Yeah better than Wales finds themselves would admit they do it is pretty impressive it was I heard the other day who had been on the Lions to the lions and they nick with the different songs that they were seeing and I think it might have been one of the last was it they were saying Welsh Yes exactly Well not particularly well and they were saying that these Japanese 200 they had learned to fall better than a lot of the adults had children can be a sponge when it comes to languages can they not but I'm making excuses but I'm not sorry and this is tightly nothing but I'm going to say it because it just blew me away so my son is 5 and he's been doing a little French class at school in his lunch break on a Wednesday which is cruel of me right should be playing but anyway. He's been doing this thing and he came back the other day and went and he's not like now stands for did he's a prodigy in any way but he came I want you know I'm obviously a model needs a color. So I was. Even blurr you know or whatever sorry Marlon is a color brown by the way I will try. Some French for a. Lot of things you learn from Father all. Right sport Yeah we're going to go with cricket because New Zealand have exacted a small amount of revenge on England after they were. Final defeat in the summer by easing to a $21.00 run victory in the 2nd t 20 international in Wellington having set $177.00 to win after several dropped catches in a poor performance in the failed the Tories never really got going to man top scoring a 39 lost by cameo from Captain Owen Morgan saw him reach 32 off 70 in the room Captain there believes it was his side's batting that proved most costly or so we were poor with a baton in the field at the old actually reasonably well their batting probably cost the game is a beautiful we get about on but we're in the game for a long time like considering we were way off the pace that's that's encouraging what are you an experienced side of the reaction from matches on the latest team as podcast you can hear a rerun of it on a 5 Live Sports Extra right man I like goals with the order of the day that of the Premier League leaders Liverpool needed 2 and that one win at Aston Villa they remain 6 points clear of Manchester City who be Southampton by 2 goals to one thanks to Col Walker's late winner Pep Guardiola praised the patience of his players is so difficult so attack a team like this an 11 prayers in your books is you know a target to try to do it and we did everything in corners and free kicks in should interfere so as you fall on one leg or to legs it was difficult or intensity and you could make it would come back elsewhere Chelsea moved up to a 3rd in the table with a 21 win what 1st Sheffield united up to 6 after a 3 nil win at home to Burnley we've come through both games on Premier League Sunday today from to a club in your crystal palace against Leicester that fall at $430.00 but efforts and against Tottenham Legion ited still would have to Queens Park Rangers yesterday sees them top of the championship on goal difference south it manager Neil Lennon says his team's thirst for more silverware knows no bans they would i 30th consecutive domestic cup tie beating Hibs 52 at Hampden Park etc I said my Scottish League Cup Final in December with either Rangers or hearts they're on the lot of scrutiny at the minute intervals people will see this will nail them and you know the pro. One of them and move on the will go over the relentless and pursuit of truth is a remote from a lot since the style of football of a poor man's will has been a busy night of boxing both domestically and abroad Saul Canelo Alvarez defeating Russia's Koval And with a dramatic 11th ran knockout in Las Vegas us the same when they w b o world light heavyweight title in Manchester lost my former world lightweight champion Anthony crawler when the final fight of his career that's what a hard fought majority points for Craig over Frank. Says that his struggles in the fight prove it was the right time now to back to the sport rather than how the performers are wired to the win was the main thing bought also made sure time's up you know I mean I know I'm not a sure bet. It was always going to my last buy into a ball and I know what for a fact now. Came on and 1st ever female to weight world champion that's with a unanimous point victory over Christina lawsuit lawsuit for the super lightweight title Joseph O'Brien's become the only it's only the 2nd person tried and train a winner at the Breeders Cup as iridescent win the filly and matter frights in California have a Mongolian groom who suffered a serious left hind leg injury during the break his capacity yesterday has been euthanizes the 37th death associated with the Santa Anita Park track in the past 11 months a Mercedes are 3 bought asked to pole position for the United States Grand Prix with Lewis Hamilton only qualifying faith he stands poised to sail a 6 while title you can hear the race on 5 Live from 630 this evening this is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live on digital b.b.c. Sound it's small speaker analog good bloke Anthony crawler of it up interviewing him a few times and he's always been very personable excellent professional and really good career Yeah a career they always would when they know when to stop and are yes this is true and the best the logs. For whatever else comes next let's get a look at the weather forecast shall we Philip Avery this morning good morning yes thanks good deal quieter today. Crossed many parts of the British Isles if you look at the northern part has gotten this still really quite windy here some of the dust already in excess of 45 miles an hour. Staying for a good part of the day out in the sunshine breezy and then once you get into the or else the Western Isles and into the north and east of the mainland quite a bit of cloud around here breeze tempering the feel of the day to say the very least and there will be some rain from that cloud for a good part of the day further to the west there's a better chance of seeing some sunshine but here even a lot of. Quite a bit of dry weather around temperatures and arranged in the sunshine and western high of 16. Closer to 9 degrees and all the straightforward story here it's a day mainly dry some sunshine and. Clouds. Really get his act together you'll find the old cherry burst of rain but nothing but many areas will stay dry $8.00 to $12.00 will cover it and finally to England and Wales the early belts of rain that was across was in the Southwest gradually creating its way further east across the southern half. Behind but then rain moving back into the southwest of. The south of that in the north of. The day the open to rain on the breeze such as temperatures in a range of 9 to 45 whether this is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live on the b.b.c. Sound something breakfast. In Chris Watson with you Well if you're just joining is 740 on this Sunday morning the general election campaign getting into full swing labor in the Turris making big spending pledges ask him by expect will be elected if they didn't get it Boris Johnson has promised to end the benefits freeze in place it's been in place since 2016 or Jeremy Corbyn is proposing to insulate almost every home in the u.k. Which Labor say will create hundreds of thousands of jobs Tories are convinced speak to a political chorus. And Jessica Parker Good morning Jessica should we talk about the benefits freeze 1st of all what are they saying say this benefits phrase had been partially expected to happen anyway sort of jus to come to an end as of April next year but confirmation today from the government that they plan to put working age benefits up by 1.7 percent say this is things like Job Seekers Allowance Universal Credit labor those who say not particularly impressed they think this is a sort of rather cynically timed announcement ahead of a certain event on December the 12th the general election and they're saying as well that look this benefits freeze is still going to continue for a number of months until April next year but I think what you're going to say over the coming weeks. Yes Spending announcements but announcements you know designed to talk to certain groups of people say for example. Working age benefits might be seen to benefit lower income groups perhaps the conservatives are trying to appeal to some of those labor areas that they also think may be could be beneficial ground for them because they leave they see areas as well we've been talking about the environment and the election this morning we talked to a few young activists after 7 o'clock we're going to be speaking to the Green Party after 8 o'clock Labor have been on this issue today because they were talking when they were talking yesterday weren't they about new homes being carbon neutral within a certain timeframe and now they're talking about putting billions into home energy upgrades I mean it's something that the existing government has talked about in various reports isn't it what will need to be done to get rid of boilers an air base the gas board is anywhere and replacing what are labor actually saying it so this is stuff like loft insulation in homes and double glazing energy heating systems to help cut energy use and the Labor government talking about a pretty major program is 60000000000. In pounds about grades to low income households and wealthy households could get interest free loans to do in homes to their properties the idea being that yes create jobs cut carbon emissions and cut down on energy use as well and you're talking about some other stories the run yesterday of course the other one as well was the moratorium on fracking and I think maybe what we're saying here because there's always been this thing about sometimes people of felt particular environment lists that environmental issues have maybe not been at the full front of some of the main policies campaigns but I think of the last couple of days certainly does seem to be a sense that environmental issues all being seen as important by the policies because they obviously think they're important of aces Yes And obviously we mentioned earlier was worth mentioning again Labor Lib Dems greens s.m. Pays they've they've all said that they would stop fracking altogether haven't they . Start on right now until you are yes I mean a conservative sort of being accused of being something of a u. Turn yesterday by announcing this moratorium and people labor in the Lib Dems were saying actually they should pay for an outright bad and there's already a moratorium in Scotland just a final one on Lib Dems because they've made a formal complaint a my own noise t.v. Said that the head to head election debate would only include Boris Johnson and Jeremy Korb and yeah it's an interesting one you're probably familiar with the fact that before any election or election event is quite a debate about the debates take place but the Lib Dems here they've launched this formal complaint because the i.t.v. Head to head as you say just featuring the Labor and Conservative leaders saying this will misrepresent the current political reality pay aren't happy either actually they're saying it would be misleading i.t.v. Is saying they will offer a balanced electorate election coverage I think they're also planning some kind of multi policy debate but look I'm not that surprised that the Liberal Democrats are unhappy about this obviously before any election there always seems to be this considerable discussion about Paul's. Debates were not a format they should be in the timing of them but the moments this had to had g. To take part on the 19th of November I should say featuring just those 2 men Ok Jessica thank you very much indeed after school correspondent Jessica Parker a quarter to 8 now Philip Pullman fans price yourselves His Dark Materials has been made into a series. And once asked me what people it's. A promise to do everything I could to protect you protect me from your. Every child's nightmare. And then treat. Ourselves for the 1st. The 8. Story to break through our. You know I was there all of those Yeah. This is an ipod. Hours of well I've got to just put my colors on the vast already I think it's going to be hours of joy it starts to my at 8 o'clock on b.b.c. One it is the latest take on the bestselling fancy trilogy a huge budget a mega star cast like The Golden Compass did that too didn't it this time round got the likes of Ruth Wilson and James McAvoy and it has been penned by Jack thought who write the Harry Potter and the cursed child States. But this is the softened fog the editor at the Radio Times What a great job thanks very much for being with us through this Norse is the format that this writing novels always need it isn't a t.v. a Plenty of space plenty of time definitely I mean for the Pullman said he thinks it's the but he's also the county where you thinks it's got the best shot of working is not a show. Definitely I mean if you think of the film you know to not ours to try and sell the story of this 1st book this is our as it's just got so much more space and then she added some bits in that don't seem to cut much out with a ballot in extra story lines and scenes for characters so I think we need enough even for the fans the books Yeah they've already expanded so to the Gyptian and. The character lope Oriel played by Erin Cari who comes into things a bit later in the books and yet to sex things it's know it's quite interesting which that because I had just been talking about this actually because Philip Pullman walls Paul of the team wasn't he was in the room he was available to Jack's illness and their production design and visual effects design who all what together in the same remit is very unusual white with that sub and so it was a real collaboration definitely yeah I mean I definitely sent him stuff to look at and the scripts and everything like he said he was he was there for a bit to work with them in the early stages I was actually looking up going sack up and I'm so glad and it was just such a cool crim Arment they've built this huge studio complex in Wales so they had the production designers the set designers and the people doing the c.g.i. Things that were all in the same building so the guy who was trying to design the demons and so on would just be able to pop downstairs and watch them filming and chats them about everything and then go back upstairs and work on it Michael. Michael I'm very jealous if people died why the books I'm every carried cumin character has a demon die they would she's essentially a spirit animal which is their alter a guy exactly and the kid statements can change shape because when you're kids you have limitless potential so you can shape shift into different animals but then when you hit puberty they lock as one animal in the in the show in the book so it's very cool animal like a snow leopard or a sort of Golden Monkey but in real life you worried yet you have a little something. Sarah's very familiar with the series and I'm not so is every human aware that they've got this yeah yeah that's right. That they can talk to each other that they're intelligent they're like they're like another you that talks back to you and has the same personality as you reflect on that really address. That you really think I'm trying to use may hear my Tell him. Speaking about the daemons they that they are the most expensive part this is a multi 1000000 pound drama he added that the demon part of it because it's all c.g.i. Was incredibly costly wasn't it definitely it was a lot of work I mean actually they had puppets is on says well for usually with a sorting that out maybe a bit of a tennis ball on a stick or you know just nothing at all to sort of signify there's no more head but in this they can decided to use properties because a kind of kind of a bit like war horse if you've seen that kind of vibe and you're really good and basically the idea was that an actor's would have something to act opposite and I think that you know. Well I don't see they you know how such a lot of c.g.i. What they're going to take on marriage I mean Michelle miss 1st series in 2018 and I currently filming the 2nd series they've they've sort banked 2 ahead of time so you have the demons thing is definitely something that was very very keen to get it right because yes well your knowledge your parents is probably one of the most important characters of the books his name he's the the Ahmedabad true you have a well he's not turning up to upset for I think I've seen a little preview for Sitch in action looks very cool although in real life they had a guy wearing a backpack with these sort of long poles coming out and a bad head at the end and he would sort of go he would sort of crouch over leaning forward and then just have that their head sticking out and he could like make it move around a bit move a Lex is very cool there's a great cast isn't there but I mean we all know that great cast don't necessarily make this make the great movie I mean it was Daniel Craig and Nicole Kidman in the Gulf compass and it was still really at. That's much as I wanted to be a bit of a dull film to say the least but this is Ruth Well somehow people will knife from later in the affair and James McAvoy of course knocking out the park Oh yeah definitely I mean Ruth Wilson completely walked away the whole thing she so so good I think she's definitely the highlight for me and I think James Franco was really good as well as she spoke to him for the Radio Times and he told me that he only came on board about 4 days before they started drinking it really because someone dropped out he told me but I need someone else character and they dropped out last minute so the casting agent was a friend of his called him up because it turns out he's the biggest His Dark Materials and Philip Pullman superfan so they figured he could just do it because he didn't used to any research he knows it and so he just hit the ground running Yes I told him on the Friday and he started on the Monday so it's for adults and older children isn't it what certain age what's the minimum age do you think I do have a vested interest and I'm basically wondering if I can watch it with my daughter what's a reasonable age do you think that's a good question it's kind of like Dr Joy mean if you're in that kind of t.v. Level like it's on a similar time and she's one of 8 on Sunday nights and it's basically there's there's no like real like explicit like violence or like at all stuff but it's a bit scary for at times Joy means there's a bit of mild peril I think for. The phrase I want to well to bed by 8 o'clock on a Sunday maybe that's what I did yeah that's why Lowell is 5 so the bottom line is that he's going to be in bed early at half price if I thought I could get back down the stairs of what to embrace he was a pleasure to talk to thank you very much the day is he a kid says I he feel it and so I find fancy editor at the right at times I might get might have to make one of the out for that yeah she see of Bob he will fit. In another life that they might help. You know with some of your own gaming There's a look at local jobs you could do with people we speak to feel some point down the line is wait and see when that's why we should tell them that I'm off them exactly 753 no. T.t.c. Sounds like a full day 8 o'clock hour at some point you've got to give a young player a chance he just completely lost for words he was barely able to string a sentence together not a contest or Cup captain past ridiculous I can't get my head around this this season progresses we've got the latest news and analysis and simply. Talking through our morning these this pain national coach. Will say listen b.b.c. Sad. We can also feel Rugby World Cup moment this is a really nice one we don't go to details of who sent to thank you for the text says My daughter works at Leeds stadium yesterday out of South African support as one man stood up and sang the anthem with gusto got a round of applause What a guy. But why not that's a good effort so much anticipation in the end it wasn't even close for England South Africa or the Rugby World Cup winners again after beating England 3212 what a great performance from South Africa this week to a couple of England fans showing it's one of those ones where I guess if we had been wanting to speak to England fans and England had won they might not have been to answering their phones quite so readily this morning but it's in that sense we're getting people. Carrying is here in the country but you've been out to Japan during the tournament right. Now on the 7th of October. Ok. Yes And Paula Paula is with us as well Paula Paula going to Narbonne Hello Paula. Paula the pool is very quiet which I yell to Paul are going to she's in Japan and she wants yesterday's funnel so she's a good person speaks a dumb way are you watching it I wash it down my like a regular kind of with Ruby club and packed out clubhouse fantastic atmosphere that got slightly less fantastic as we ran to the realisation that we were not going to perform when the night Yes Was there a particular moment of realisation for you Do you think or was it just a gradual slipping away feeling about 2 minutes in when simply went Oh yeah. Yes but look there's a lot of talk of that and say well if single had stayed on it could have been oh so different but as we heard from Paul Grayson and from Matt Dawson you know what one man doesn't necessarily change history does a know I think when I realize that South Africa had the one game plan that they could take to us and they start to execute it perfectly and didn't react to it in the way that New Zealand didn't react to us last week you could see it coming unfortunately just to not answer to that the physicality when you set pieces Kraken you know anyone in rugby knows it's very difficult to win important and you surprised at how good South Africa were and how how well they were able to adapt in a way because everyone just thought they played the same game that they played all the way through the World Cup And obviously they had that in their locker but they brought a lot more to the game on top of that yes that I didn't yeah I mean I've always been a huge guy huge team I wasn't surprised because you know it's the World Cup final You could see in the faces of that came out they were really you know bang up for it and if they managed to impose that physicality on an England team that I think apart from the New Zealand game sometimes fly out to deceive not pack is as good as everyone thinks is not scrimmaging wise No I wasn't hugely surprised just a bit disappointed that we can react to it Paul is back dumb good news Paul is black Paul are going to share knob in a hollow. Paula hi you're good you're in Japan you went to the final you went to England semifinal So yes soring go and beat the mighty All Blacks What was your mood just before kickoff yesterday how you're feeling about it all and I think we were feeling quite positive as agree because the game last weekend had been so good and it been such a phenomenal performance and a result that there was sort of a quiet belief should we say there was that we do you know well and unfortunately it sort of all went down Hope pretty critically I think within sort of team minutes on the last call and it just seemed that things weren't going to go away and although we had moments in like you know sort of pushing South Africa they were just the stronger team and we didn't really play to a local folk performance I reckon if you asked pretty much every English person wherever they might have been watching your your depicting their feelings very very well I think most people are probably going in through thinking. I'm feeling pretty confident but it wasn't a big what you surprised there in the weren't able to adapt because they would have known that that's how South Africa would have been playing to a degree. Yeah totally And I think just from the Wales game as well like the issue with that one was Wales went out to play in they very much play to South Africans style of playing so you would have thought England should be more prepared for that but it just I think there was a plan and whether it be any sort of injuries there were a couple of calls that went against us whether that just really shook the guys but also you know they're young teen as well relatively speaking so there's still a lot of experience yet to be gained and when I picked this trip a year ago I really wasn't expecting to see England play a tool I came out specifically for the semifinals and it was you know it was nice to have 2 games they played it and the atmosphere was brilliant and it was great and you know the result and go away. I think we had. Yeah yeah well you know that's why. Yeah that's what I thought we were the ones that were in the pubs. You know drinking a lot of Japanese their whiskey. You know. Between all the bands that were out there and I think. We've all tried to help each other through this process and it's been really really good sure if it was safe journey home Paula and thanks for speaking to. Thank you very much in. Japan who was watching it back in this country your World Cup Rugby moments moment of the tournament plays we've had that we will get to them in 2 calls and play a few of them along the way. If you want to give us your. News knowledge Premier League football and one of those b.b.c. Radio. 5 Live it's Sunday bright because Chris will. Continue to bring you reaction to the fate of the Rugby World Cup final and also coming up next we'll see how the climate crisis is shaping the general election and sporting events cricket is full to defeat against New Zealand in Wellington as the host level of a t 27 this is a good story we're going to pick them out of the absolute how much was his. Absolute. 1000000 Quade. Left on the train that. Was a Stradivarius. 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News at 8 o'clock and I'm Jeremy Corbin all both making more spending promises ahead of next month's general election the government says the 4 year freeze in benefit payments will come to an end in April when universal credit and job seekers allowance will rise by the right of inflation Labor says the announcement is cynically timed our political correspondent is nakedly Labor's making a big announcement of his own today to create 450 isn't one of the biggest issues in this election I'll be very surprised and I'll be very surprised if the Greens don't get a record result because throughout this year we see extraordinary results in elections we double the number of counts less we move to double the number of any days of represents 7 regions now and that's all 3 people say actually this is the this is the issue I wish to cast my vote as well is. That the policy right from the start well I think. You mentioned as well that the numbers have gone up for an end and indeed they haven't you had a particular European election you've still only got one amp am Regardless I take on board what you're saying but people will ultimately make their final decision based on how they voted in the referendum that is what the polling is suggesting at this point you might have a different outcome with some of the younger voters but also that the younger voters. Don't always translate into votes for a particular political party even give saying this in Germany right they have a huge.