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The health secretary Matt Hancock has warned that the new code on a virus that began in China will be around for months there have been 2 confirmed cases in Britain so far more than $300.00 have been tested for the virus a stalker who's had us to the Newsnight presenter Emily make lists for 2 decades has been sentenced for breaching a restraining order for the 12th time jobs at Nottingham Crown Court said Edward vines had a lifelong obsession with the journalist Vimes who is 49 and already in jail has had his sentence extended by 3 years universal credit to the largest welfare reform in a generation has been hit with another delay to its full rollout at a cost of half a $1000000000.00 pounds it's now expected to be introduced fully in September 2024 a setback of 9 months it's been beset by problems and blamed by opponents for the rise in the use of food banks b.b.c. News. I don't want to touch that. Super kids has a show and tell table. It's a 15000000 year old whale with a surprising story is it true that some whales have a regional accent and startling specimens from that it was a pure It's a frog cannot believe broccoli is trying to kill you and it actually gives you a bit of a simple. Really crazy things a toxin that's in broccoli is also toxic broccoli. Frankly isn't a. Super against present danger table the new b.b.c. Radio 4630 comedy from of the evenings. Now on radio for Peggy's been left in the cold in the arches. Say that then everyone writes down their wish for a little tone deaf ear so you don't want some tea Grande near you think your hand on the camera he didn't know what you're missing he said he turned on sorry yes yeah I put it on Max do you want another blanket no I want all boy and thinks. You think the battle big no idea he's going to get a part has any he stayed over an hour. And he said he'd ring so I'm sure he will and then adamant in box up all the individual wishes and then one is opened in back to him every year on his Beth day isn't that lovely how many people are making a way everyone in the naming ceremony 2030 will send or want to hear wishes from people on his 1st birthday if he would most of them the day. That's a point. Well they could read 2 or 3 to him every year maybe put them all in a nice book and then you can see them all with every want to know yes it was a much better idea grant we're good at this now other idea this is an idiot but I can't concentrate on this now if the boiler isn't fixed tonight I really don't think I should stay here. Going on to go on 5 now and you have to make arrangements Oh there we go right on cue let's. Say. Poor Ruth and the police searched the entire year for all jockeys fakers the machinery have to be chucked they are rare. Person I seized these computers I suppose they will read few green. Blue only n. . Banks How do you have no pads at all we have the back I'll just finish serving. The note you were 1st I wouldn't like to delay what did you come in for Linda. I'm not sure Linda came into this ng Susan is the famous petition that she's come to check up on the don't rename our pub even though we barely use it petition. Did you know if you were a regular Linda I might take you seriously as it happens the rebels include many regulars also very funny the rebel Red Bull very creative to you going to ask to sign it not at this precise moment because I didn't want to make her feel uncomfortable I see which is just how some of your longest standing patrons feel Lilian uncomfortable with your ludicrous change of name the be at and it was painstakingly chosen to expand I can tell not change it no one wants to throw the baby out with the bathwater believe me really you can't honestly believe young professionals will descend all mussed to spend their money in sleepy Oh. Well that's where you're wrong already working with Sting a trendy and networking group tomorrow for a cocktail. That would you and your fellow Red Bulls like to join us for those cocktails and bury the hatchet and let you run roughshod over local sensitivities the boss. All is a part of every teacher Lilian even if you'd rather it wasn't a good day to do cold along if you fancy a bloody say can also make somebody. Like. Some release name you know love when you're told I'm going to eat was in no book you say please don't go there Susan I'm running late now I'm supposed to be collecting my well I'll put you to so if you tomorrow oh I. Better. Sorry man I've had more than enough of Am I an Irish show aren't even a pitcher I hope that's caused some time now so I'll see you in about 10 Me too so . I'm doing a cheek to cheek. Yet you're back in a stable thank you aren't there you are sure you scare the horses sorry have you got any of my messages up in treating bouncer I was ringing and texting for ages Well good job my phone's on silent and I'm article kicked and it's a gnostic a suppressed time to support our I'm sorry about that but when it's an emergency you really should answer the emergency Oh boy has broken down so yes I have to stay but you Oh. Ok So Juba you were my key because we don't need to cause driving exacting re do it you can pick me up from the lodge in half an hour while I won't be finished and I've got to update bounces records and plan to Mars visit So yes all right I'll go pack my suitcase suitcase and I'm hungry so you really can't be long sorry mom I won't be a minute now you could have stayed in the car who I'd rather keep moving my legs a stiff arm sitting in the cold all afternoon I just need to check me go to not spend it for the cocktails tomorrow. I'm sorry to put you out there but they don't want to risk catching a cold at this time of year Oh you're very welcome honestly be lovely to have you have a long you boil it takes goodness what is it really well I'm sorry there are no customers pub ish Harrison and feeling around the oh oh no they're going good you're supposed to be running your business it will be a pope full tomorrow don't worry. Got plenty Why don't you show you in just didn't get my going back to pick Hilder in the kittens. Look what we'll see what he says about that man I have to think of Ruby what your problem is nearly and we can't leave the poor catch there it's far too cold to manage you know how terrified Ruby is it has been very aggressive with her that was months ago and Ruby was stealing her food she can be quite naughty I mention bad temper and hide talking about Ruby you. Know if you won't have the catch I have to go home and make do with a whole water bottle I don't suppose it will take too many days to repair the boiler I'll manage to be silly of course we'll have the cat will you live ever near if you're sure yes yes mum I'm sure. Mum for you no doubt. Cheney's need every day. And smells delicious glass and you'll. Trying. Oh oh yes there I work or stay or. We're all ready to say yes to Justin's offer this morning when Hannah pulled another Remember stunts trying to make going to write made a mistake with the orders so course not all that. She's watching my every move so what are you going to turn around and I honestly have no idea. I'm sorry love I feel like I'd let you. Know it. 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Oh Linda Good evening Neil I'm sorry it's about the you we are about to eat this will take long I wondered if you'd like to sign at petition Oh you mean about the bowl changing its name yes I know Linda it's not convenient imo Rai's you didn't have time to tell us Susan I have a pensive quick signature and I'll be out of your way no I'm sorry return. Remember to me oh no they're not going to suck because we've. Been one would hope not sometimes you have to sorry it is easy and I knew Now you mentioned to you that's not the pen Thank you Neal you are. Has been saying quote It is an apple we call it will continue until it is once more the boat. Thank you going to showing you it's just what we typically. Were no customers reason or we're going to show for em a shake let's get the bull sorted. Out. Keith a year. This more cases can stay in the lounge which is a small one. And cooks in a few other things and that bags full of vegetables but calf of the other one of the soya milk quietly you have to do your fridge of course we have no idea when the boiler will be working again. Oh ho they so takes all stress away in an instant Oh put your stuff in the fridge no thanks and my cases can go in the bedroom. It was just that but I'm having strike. You can have some of the food you brought with you I'm certainly not touching this Reagan cheese Actually it's rather nice. Oh that reminds me I need to check on the case trying for the naming ceremony there I'm sure he's got it all in hand just make sure he doesn't serve bacon cheese and I've just ordered the most fabulous on naming ceremonies Well I've had a Mini and realize how much effort you're putting aside a mind to such a cool just baby he deserves a truly wonderful day don't you think he does. So what exactly the boy like I say. It was something to do with the pressure that I wasn't really listening we didn't sound bad bad enough I've never been so cold poor Granma shivering poor Peggy. It's a text from the mindful marketing course mindful marketing is that even a thing yes very much a thing although it's not because the courses for shame yes you choose. Now if you don't mind starting once up I'm going to have the lovely hot off well actually Kate you can cook your own food once you've finished in the bathroom come on sweet heart I'm far too tight and this is the recipe book and read case only daughter step fried just call me when it's ready back here we can stuff right is then with steak. Then goes into battle and Neil reaches a decision we're back in Ambridge tomorrow at the same time now on Radio 4 it's time for front row with John Wilson Hello Tom Hanks has played a lot of good guys in his time but he's bomb villain will have to wait Mr Hanks tells me about playing Mr Rogers an all-American children's t.v. Hero we hear how breaks in negotiations are being played out as a choreographed dance in Belfast and we look at how the notion of artistic risk has changed in the last 2 decades and why unemployment may have encouraged creativity 20 years ago they had no money. No backing but they also had a really good benefits so even 20 years before that I mean they're all signing off they were signing on and you could sign on and you have the space to explore and create and develop your artistic voice because you had a small amount of money that could mean you could survive more later from Amanda Parker one of 3 guests who will be debating the changing nature of risk Tom Hanks has long had a reputation of one of Hollywood's good guys thanks to a genial off screen persona and a succession of modest self-effacing hero roles on screen he's played a trio of captains in Saving Private Ryan Sally and Captain Phillips he was the voice of Sheriff Woody of course in for Toy Story films and won Oscars for Philadelphia and Forrest Gump now he's up for his 1st Academy Award in nearly 20 years for his latest good guy role and in America they don't come much more wholesome them Fred Rogers Mister Rogers' as he was known was the host of an educational children's television series that ran for over 3 decades from the late sixty's on Woods in new film a beautiful day in the neighborhood an investigative reporter is assigned to profile one of the best loved people in America and sets out to expose the real Mr Rogers under the television for some odd what he discovers is that Rogers is even nicer than he seems it's beautiful and that's not the beautiful. Would you be mine. Please. My neighbor. Tom Hanks is Fred Rogers in the film Matthew Rhys plays the reporter Lloyd Vogel who arrives to interview his subject with a black eye and a cut nose the 2 men forge an unlikely friendship as Rogers disarms Vogel with his honesty and his concern for the reporter who it transpires is also funny how to deal with emotional wounds. I met Tom Hanks when he was in London just before Christmas he started by explaining the concept of the real neighborhood children's show for British listeners who like me may have had no idea who Fred Rogers was he had the only television enterprise that was aimed at 2 year olds 3 year olds 4 year olds human beings that had yet to understand how complicated the world is he was it teaches them how to spell he was a teach them how to count it was a teaching them how to read he was teaching them how to be better human beings we had to prove to get the world to play dealing with. His message it wasn't like oh don't worry about it oh you're going to be Ok just the opposite he was saying you're feeling sad Tell me about feeling sad and had the timing unlike anything else who are long pauses there were silences there were moments where you would just look in the camera and say things like Have you ever played a trumpet you know you don't get the trumpet neat you have to blow into the trumpet but blowing into a trumpet is how it makes it sound Oh who's that at the door Oh it's it's Mr Me It's Mr Farley Mr Foley's go to hell he brought his trumpet Let's say you know that when he saw the way you play phone to phone What 2 I actually what. We we had that was the hardest thing about being in the movie is that we had to slow down the movies are always hurry up hurry up I thought actually watching the film and then I didn't realize this was a real story I went to youtube and you see that you have recreated the set in absolute specific detail and you have captured the cadences and the rhythms and that it's really extraordinary the slow pace that really is the odds to the way that you hope in real life very often on screen was. Fast talking glib wise and Harmer Yeah I've turned attention deficit disorder into a lucrative career thank you thank you very much. The. It was powerful in that the pass' are not dead air they are loaded with meaning they are loaded with engagement on our program not trying to look through the camera into the concept of a single time how many of the shows did you watch in preparation of what. I mean was it was studied was it oh yeah oh yeah it was it was a matter of not only looking for the matter resumes in the most obvious s of the visuals but also the philosophical d.n.a. Of every show I mean they were scripted to to within a t. Over it oh yes and the subject matter is he was talking about they were all about he worked with a very specific child psychologist he worked with his own people from the seminary that he went into in order to pee did this one thing like for example there's one where he comes in and says oh I have to make a phone call to see if Mrs Riley is still ready for me to come by and he picks up the phone and he dials it and he says Hello this is Fred Rogers may I speak to Mrs Riley Oh. Oh I'm so sorry and he hangs up the phone he says wrong number. And he gets out his little address book and it looks at he says. 2. And he picks up and he read dials Wow And then he gets the right that who else would bother showing an adult making a mistake like that take the time out and then what it said to a 2 or 3 year old kid is oh that's how you use a phone and sometimes adults make mistakes as sophisticated tiny tiny little things that were just meant to reassure a kid that they're a mystery always has some sort of an answer to. Mr Rogers I'm here to interview it is so nice to me in the relationship between Fred and Lloyd Vogel the journalist who was doing the big story on him is all about boomeranging any sort of attention off of Fred and bring it back on to the man who was asking the question is which he rose Yeah and their lives are all screwed up in that way you're going to be dangerous to Lloyd you're going to wait him out this piece will be for an issue about heroes do you consider yourself a hero and to think of myself as a hero not at all. Oh Mr Rogers is he here. I don't understand the question Well there's you Fred and then there's the character you play Mr Rogers. You are going to look him in the eye and says well yes I have problems but the problems you have must weigh on you much more than they would on me you said it was a play at the plate. Is that is that what. Happened. I'm here to interview you Mr Rogers and that is what we did is that he was telling to everybody including this guy who came it was very damaged right off the bat was saying you. You don't have to worry about being damaged we're all damaged they can take an awful lot of burden off of the person but France really going to screw up Lloyd's life by treating him with kindness and trusting him because the man has never been trusted in his life and he's digging deep as well and he wants to get some of the nicest person if I just saw on the surveillance. I was genuinely expecting the twist to be uncovered by the list and that would have been some horrible revelation which of undercut his whole reputation and it was in that film it was about goodness well goodness with the understanding that even Fred experience all the things that in a human being does moments of self loathing moments of questioning whether he was really doing a good job or not whether he was actually actually making his viewers into better more well rounded human beings and he's target audiences a television full rather 23 year olds but you'll suggesting he's ministering to the nation you know Wess an extraordinary. Day for $968.00 in the week the Robert Kennedy assassination and Mr Roach is talks to the parents of America about the effect that the violence that the hearing and seeing on screen might be having on the children does this film have new resonance today given the French. I think the default mode for almost every brand of public discussion is is conflict you know is is cynicism is about are fact Fred lived his life battling against that very thing the uniqueness of Fred Rogers Neighborhood was that there was no them in his neighborhood there was only us let's go see our old friend let's go to the movie studio and watch how they make the Hulk let's go see how they bake bread or let's say it was all let's see how all of our neighbors interact with us and make our lives more interesting maybe a little bit more fun that's not the money making enterprise it media. It is right now it's hard to put out a product that says. Let's make kindness so interesting that you'll want to emulate all these people line up to tell you their problems that would be an incredible burden on you sometimes we have this critical and that's Ok throughout your career you've played good guys haven't you I mean whether it's from month from big to Saving Private Ryan to p.c. It goes you know if you see the circle Cloud Atlas maybe not so much but it is rooted position is what we were doing yeah gangster in the data I played in a sense of Ok there are exceptions to this whole thing to rule but generally you played up 1st of all I have a sort of countenance that goes along with it I mean you get what you pay for so to speak you get a nice fit I'm not got a nice guy you saw the face I'm not and I'm not imposing physical presence but what I view of the biggest obstacle I have in the work that I do is to try to create those moments that I feel when I see certain movies that no matter the gender no matter the culture no matter the time I recognize myself up there oh I'm going through what that young Indian boy is going through I remember that feeling when I was 5 I want the audience to see themselves no matter who they are to see themselves in my character in the film. Anti-hero buddy that wouldn't be for you or villains you know does I think there's an interesting bond villain's problem with a lot of bad guys is they say things like I'm growing tired of this game. Or before I kill you Mr Bond Perhaps you like a tour of our installation. I would actually like it maybe is is he going to die is he going to fail at this I don't know those movies that they never seem to fail Ok so you will be looking for about this with motivation Oh yeah I was very lucky in Los Angeles last summer I played Falstaff and I thought all this this guy is rich. Because he is self-serving he is lazy he is a coward and yet he loves this kid very very much and wants to be a part of his life that's the dramatic story that I'm attracted to in the 1st place I want to stand why everybody is doing what they're doing whether I agree with or not and Jago is a perfect guy because at the end the day I don't get that job I get that job why did I get that Oh I know why I get there. I think everybody has a little bit of God But when I do like the role Oh I would a little old for it now because I think it's supposed to be $28.00 and yeah I just turned 33 so it was just past them I'm just a little I'm a little too ripe on the shelf now. Tom Hanks thank you so much indeed it's lovely to be on the front row on b.b.c. Radio 4. It was. Good a lovely man a really front row fan Tom Hanks a beautiful day in the neighborhood is out now specific a p.g. On the 1st working day after Britain left the European Union on Friday night Boris Johnson has been incompetent mood declaring there is no need for the u.k. To follow Brussels trade rules there are tough negotiations lying ahead cheering which diplomats and politicians will grapple with the issues wrestle with figures trying to gain an upper hand and with deadlines looming try not to be pushed off a precipice by coincidence all of these political metaphors are on display in a dance work called brink which premiers in Northern Ireland later this week. Music from the show brink by the maiden voyage don'ts company it's choreographer Eileen McClory joins me from Belfast I mean this piece features 2 people moving up on a tabletop embracing pushing each other Lou. Lifting each other on a very confined space did you conceive it as a response to the breaks of negotiations Yes I did we started making the piece back in January 2019 we had an hour and day and at that stage treason may have just lost a massive vote on the withdraw daily and this idea of negotiations and these deals and the risk this these high risk negotiations were in the ether constantly so I thought how can we demonstrate this and how how can we instead of making a piece around the table become the commodity on the table which I feel like we were and we are interesting that you respond to Theresa May who at the time was in . A very precarious position but Northern Ireland of course has a particular role particular concerns in the BRICs and negotiations is the work specific to Northern Ireland and I think the work is immediate specific in Northern Ireland because I'm from here and the work dam highlights I guess frustrations that we had here and and a sense of division and a sense of uncertainty and again a risk we just got our government back which is which is brilliant but I also think you can look at the work from a very differently intimate a very different part of the country and see see so many different things I mean you might see basically the breakdown of the human condition and its in its most roar and flawed sense. So I think so you know being prescriptive about his piano it's open to interpretation and I want to see I don't know the breakdown of a marriage or you know a fight in the playground or whatever it's all there yes that's all there are no. On a very risky if you ever and t. People facing 1st survival on that need each other's way I think I've seen the rehearsal footage it does look incredibly. Yeah I do have fallen off yes yes they have we've had a few a few falls but nothing serious no we practice a lot on the floor and then when we get the material up to like comfortable to. We put it on the table and then the risk is heightened again but they're very confident with the work night that hopefully we have no mishaps the rest is still there of course it is a work about balance Isabel and literal balance intellectual balance in the way political balance because it doesn't seem to be particularly taking sides in the BRICs debate again was that part of the concept Yeah I think for me to tick to take sides I mean I am or manner but I didn't I don't want to highlight that because I think I don't know who's right or who's wrong but it's really a piece of both the human condition and how how essentially we can become we can work together and then we could become individuals and then come back again and how how. How actually just looking at a relationship negotiating a boundary that tight is so interesting that. I think for me to take a side just didn't make any sense it's more about I guess the fall of of a society I'm wondering that whether though I mean having watched the rehearsal footage this afternoon or the piece is about 25 minutes long Yeah I mean it's very moving actually is weird I mean the fact that you know they are embracing like love is yet one point and then fighting but I should point out that actually this might be a spoiler the starting position of the dancers is exactly the same as the end position things come full circle Yeah I feel like is there. I guess we're always we're always current like society always comes in a circle you know decisions are made and then new generations come up and they change and it goes back in and I think it's that back and forth are that constant in a go she isn't room I feel like you're constantly going round in circles and well until you get the decision I until the tiny little nuances Gee I'm sure and then you get that withdrawal. But when we were you seeking inspiration purely from the political process so were you looking at other. Art images of conflict of negotiation Yeah well I mean I'm from Northern Ireland So conflict is part of my d.n.a. I guess that's the always there but no we looked at. Lots of art we looked at lots of Renaissance art and we also looked at Greek sculptures and people like Socrates and Plato and these big philosophers we played around with playing poker how do we keep our poker faces when we're so she and things. Are all source of inspiration Yeah and you mention the storm assembly bank so obviously that's the subject of your next piece for it yes of course. I only McClory thank you very much indeed bring the piece will be performed at the mac in Belfast this Friday and Saturday then it moves on the top of February to the marketplace theatre in our mark now for the next of our series of discussions on the nature of risk in art and culture more risk over the last 2 decades as we heard there the risk in a dance piece performed on a tabletop is that the dancers might fall off but that would have still been the case if the piece had been staged 20 years ago tonight we're looking at how the notion of artistic risk has changed over that time and whether artists maybe lost some of his edge as we've become more risk averse earlier today we brought together critic Louis Weiss Amanda Parker from professional magazine and Roy Williams who 1st made his name as an exciting new playwright a lot around at. When 2 years ago with sing your heart out for the lads at the National Theatre we started with the factors that have affected the nature of risk taking in arts since 2000 louis Weiss Well I would say the big difference this time of the millennium is the absolute explosion of the Internet and that means there's 2 different things here that perhaps in more established mainstream culture there's less was taking for the on the flip side the positive way to look at it is that with something like the internet many more people can get a platform so much quicker on the commercial multi-nationals almost outsourcing risk by using co-opting social media and that My Space is the famous example is someone like Lily Allen who she famously was a My Space star then became a math a label pop star So yes they always outsource that and are now to the Internet what is true is that record labels now much less willing to have to invest in an artist in the long run you used to be a pop star 20 years ago an artist you could release one well received our 1st album and that's what's great will do a 2nd one that might break out now the pressure on any artist is yet to hit immediately or you'll be dropped or you won't get signed in the 1st place I mean there's a question would have been signed 20 years ago you know arguably the most successful young female artist of the moment just one for Grammy Awards but it's very d.i.y. Approach Well equally she may not have been signed but we also have seen a decline in independent music venue which is close to your point of it being contracted out the risk is contract it out the artists do it themselves there are no spaces it's a massive haemorrhaging the venue availability and rehearsal spaces and and the like so people are doing all the hard work off their own bat until such time as a commercial comes in and takes all the records and profits which is a model I don't know if it's necessarily all awful and bad but I think there are massive flaws in it I think that's increasing over the last 20 years massively It could be argued that you get more interesting art you know whether that is art or music or theater or dance. The artist's back is against the wall in a way when you know times are tight when things are totally hate argument I'm so sorry that really that really annoys me the amount of children who are not being exposed to arts creativity access to play explore risk develop their own critical voice even appreciate art if you're not doing it in education education but that has its absolute pipeline through to production and performance and creativity in the public space Louis what I think is to see true I think what's unfortunate is the argument sometimes when people are buying it's all they do get angry or cry really do create good work however it's quite cast in people saying Weimar Germany was a real creative explosion because we know how. Benign example I mean because I was thinking back 20 years year 2000 and around that time we sort of take more now in the lead up to take modern of course you had the Young British Artists many of whom had squatted derelict warehouses in London or Manchester or some of the metropolitan centers and had no money and no backing and of course they created their own culture but 20 years ago they had no money and no backing but they also had a really good benefits so even 20 years before that I mean they're all signing off they were signing on and you could sign on and you had the space to explore and create and develop your artistic voice because you had a small amount of money that could mean you could survive and now jobseeker's allowance means you cannot do that you don't have that model anymore that's really interesting Roy let me through that to you when you were starting off you know writing over the last 20 years did you always feel that you could only take a risk that you could push the boat out if you had some kind of financial stability or some underwriting you from the start when I have struck a chord with me when I was starting out when I was doing you theatre and we were plays in a creator. But we want to employ where all sign on do you feel you take more risks in your working. Now than you would have done 20 years ago or possibly the other way around I think it's more the other way around I've been writing for all over 20 years and I think it's more about how people see me as a black writer I think I'm seen as a risk you were seen as a rock still am still a Bristol are what we were talking about in terms of diversity and what we're after is lost my that's what is the risk of the perceived when a Roy Williams play is pretty not we're not perceived to be I'm speaking generally here we're not perceived to be the norm we are still the marginalized still still you have 20 odd years Amanda Parker do you concur with what Roy is saying there I almost certainly concur I think what drives that is funding over the last 20 years there's been an increased attention in funding on measuring success and evaluating success city things have happened fundings got more tight and the measures by which we judge whether things are put back on or not have got a lot more visible people are looking at whether there are returnable success did you feel the hell Stu do you reach the majority does it is it something that got covered in local papers national papers so in that sense if you are doing something that seen as other you need a massive weight of marketing and promotional and and venue based support to say actually this isn't a risk this is fine but from what we're saying it was ever thus Let's bring it right up to date Amanda arts professional magazine you've just done a survey about freedom of expression among arts practitioners what have you found we ran the survey not Tobar we had more than $500.00 respondents 2 thirds of which artists or practitioners in some form one in 6 reported having signed gagging or n.d.a. Type arrangements so if you're talking about risk one in 6 already saying I am self censoring or censoring what I say 69 percent say they wouldn't criticize funders. So 69 percent have an issue with what they say in a public space I mean the easy ones to draw illustration from other things like um the b.p. Protests and stuff like that just bring you back to the idea of practitioners unwilling to criticize those who fund and I mean that's nothing new is it I mean that's that's biting the hand that feeds but isn't that a problem the biting the hand that feeds changes the nature of the work changes what you create and the more the funding is squeezed the more artists are not able like where to live on benefits and right in their time 44 percent of our respondents said they've changed their plans or their programming due to pressure or risk of controversy people and more cautious now because they fear that people regard as Council culture is not that I should just be shut out yes a public discourse or just beaking full stop I mean everyone on social I think in the last few years it's turned into this kind of space where you basically are yeah a thumbs up excellent and you you rarely say what you really feel unless you're in a closed group because that stuff can come back and bite you through the Internet social media has been from what you're all saying here one of the key fact is not the key factor really in terms of expression and risk very much what one joins are also is the advent of the digital channels the cable shows what they should be as the show times the Netflix specifically when he one of his specific shows such as a while there are nights when I said when I watch that program and I say that that for always feels to me on the surface that's can be being completely unfiltered has your risky landmark going to. Be less red because like the powers that be said Ok You know what we don't we don't notice what you do you write it we will not interfere and this on the surface that's that's our as we're always a person because the narrative strands of it's the character arcs you would never get. In the British t.v. Show too many people interfere in. Just yeah. Just messes and overall Can it is impossible to quantify are we living in a more risk averse culture world now I think the market is so fragmented as well now that you can take a risk but in a smaller place in a way the bigger the platform the bigger stage the more likely you are to get it wrong you can take risks. Take responsibility for and maybe in a more controlled environment I think commercially there women acidly more risk averse I think thirstily in your private space we are bracing risk because of that we've diversified the market and we say these 5 all 15 people love what I do and to hell with the 50000000 Yes and there are lots of artists who can survive that we have and do it wise and the Parker and Roy Williams And by the way Roy's new play Death of England opens this Friday at the Theatre Royal Stratford East tomorrow emo McBride talks about her new novel and we review Bafta winning an Oscar tipped film parasite with similar at 750 Andre tonight was presented by John Wilson and produced by Simon Richardson a new crime drama from the award winning playwright Katie hymns begins after this. Do you listen in a different way to piano music because that's your specialism I would say fundamentally you meet young musicians on this classical life with Jessie sharing some of the tracks we love and just can't stop listening to right now I know so little about classical music and everything I did I gleaned from Julie keeping up as a classical fix what I mean baton Hill there are no Archie scenes and laughs but you might learn a little bit in a way or catch up with the listening service tackling the big questions like What are kids what are they even for and only running out of good choose Radio 3 on the girl discover all our podcasts on b.b.c. Sounds. You're listening to b.b.c. Radio 4 where we have a new 15 minute drama series starting today 24 killed our road by Katie Hynds 2 boys out sledging in the local park discover the body of an old woman in the snow over the course of 10 episodes we learn what has led her to this point. The bottom half whoa whoa. Whoa whoa whoa whoa. Whoa you want to go out. On a quick drama queen shit drama queen here she drama queen. I. Have. A 4 day. Loop look where I am I am Will could. Go to shit why fingerprints fingerprints just like you know oh yeah have you could you food go to a credit and we've got to go through police station the police station yet close I'm not going to the police station why I don't trust the police never off. Should we had a barn cat walk for we could put it over her book she wouldn't feel it would she it would still be nice to think she'd go just leave or we can't do that yet it's not braai but she said So I mean no one could help become that she's a person she was a person. Or if she was here 9 she's too old to be my mom you're great now I'm mad someone else will find it and they can have the bother of it and not post but no one comes in and no one ever comes in but now they will they will because of the snow I'm not just leaving her bra and I wouldn't be able to live with me so she just cries we should have a blast you are very wit you know we're not really no. Hello I'm. Sorry your dad is doing now. To know what you mean use cannot leave me and I mean we are leaving you but we can back go. And how come I. Don't be afraid I don't know that if she said she caught a spear it might be like our going around in the air in the snow. Coats reveal why. We should have said a prayer at the end I know loads don't believe in spirits so go Dani you know what time are you scared to die you. Know. You feel. A bit. You won't feel it you'll feel anything Amai you generally go feel and I think you'll be dead like if there's life after death I won't really be dead just how we like but the reason for life after death well I think there is. What we want in fall how do you know we're going to slip over on the what you might but there's no rush what it would take so long we told. You oh earning one but no one knows the cheese that someone could find and many go you're saying that no one would find a caveat if I didn't feel like that if the only person friends you were right the 1st time know was going to find a. Doc I was. I just want to get to the station what if they think we killed them why would they speak we killed it because we're the ones that found out. She started cold. How do you know she's so cold she could have died of also. Wall of emergent she's not read no times you know still no usually stuck on a life thinks like what she scored a cell phone on something I actually know what place no is small but I suppose she could have been poisoned by Russians By pushin spines that's another reason not to touch. Because issued from poison by the Russians could be contaminated like chemicals. I'm getting that. Hasn't come. Up. Maybe. All the old ladies a locker room even more reason not to go to the police they might think we took a bargain and no more will be thieves and murderers no we won't because we won't because we're not I mean you ever heard of a miscarriage of justice. But your uncle did it no you didn't you never did before you did it well he didn't well that's what happens like in situations like these. I don't think it is. Because your uncle didn't get done for something you didn't do think she's got a husband. It's probably dead already men always die for sin over one another one another rule like the thing about how my poem says she wishes she never got married but then she says she wishes I'd never been born she doesn't she does he's just trying to make me feel sorry for you I have not. Thought you were even in . This new one so. Well can I do for you lots what lying in the Snow who was lying in the snow this woman this woman we found in the park she stared at it was cold we don't know if it's the cold but we don't think it's moved I still think it could be murder on me there's no bullet is not caught on the leg yet there's a corner leg but it's not marked stop wearing dislike she scratched herself like climbed the fence Oh so she car Condor fence She's about 100 she's not hundreds She's about 85 knots very precise 85 is mid eighty's and I'd say she's made a which would make her right to not go back. But we didn't take it we wouldn't do that I would never ever do that so your telling me you found a body that said yeah this isn't like a joke no no way. Where did he say she was in the park walk down the road it's not really a part of a park I mean there's no swings in the is up it by the school istead near off roofs and Johns Avenue Yeah yeah we would just sledge and he's got a best seller was his ledges was yours and then bucks I was going to say you best not leave them outside the sledge is I mean they'll get nicked all right large or I just I mean to take some details what details names ages and some will come around so I'm looking round and tell you there is a car in a police car yes in a police car goes in a police car was your name so Brian Brian Murphy age 11 address. What you do in order for it's procedure. 80 a bell the day off and. You said Me What's your name Jackson Reed Army live in years old and my address is 57 to fuck across a good lot where I just why they're both of you white there and someone will come around just wait a sec. See why not say fine it's alright I still know that he doesn't think we did it it was a skills question he was just asking basic still no it was all like Wesley sledge is if you sledging the waitress legis it was suspicious he was worried about the get nicked books homes are all in a police car oh yeah. My auntie had a miscarriage once what you on about when you said about your uncle and a miscarriage of justice my auntie had a miscarriage you know with a baby. She cried all the time for ages man and what lost it with said it was stupid like current over spilt milk and then my auntie like chook to bowl of milk over if said. I just took the N.F.L.'s surely would it was. Oh hello hello. My name's Petey Hailey Milton which one of us Ryan which one of his jacks and his are in place to me both. So I hear you found a body in the snow yeah yeah we're not used to being shot be a both not what you expect when you go sledging is it not really what you want to told do you want to show me where she is here. Let's go then shall we. Who is coming down again the 1st luncheon we have been out snow is good as they speak yes I know you when I was your age I remember getting loads of snow every year but maybe I'm just remembering it that way that makes me sound old is this one a lot closer to the front I should use in the phone because I'm told and that got to do with anything why don't you both hop in the back that way is fact well I see what you did what I do and I haven't done anything lately showing just one sec. Of Phil's trying to get hold of is it your. Letter phone on silent or something happened ya know she's funny he was missing why did he say what it was he wants to know whether to no purpose. He was really apologetic but he said if you can't open the tinned tomatoes and he can't make those on your and then he knows you'll be pissed off that he didn't you didn't make lasagna I miss to take you out I just said a possible thank you thank you may come in I don't even know why it's oh no no no no no I do now actually I left in the carriage and the government Yeah I was trying to open a 10 page is not on your way but now I know I mean I now know it was just to stalk because of the pain you know sorry sorry about this boy showing him back and tell him No no no. No Thank you Mick I'll just south Texas Tech some right now in gallonage. Thanks makes are a home so sorry but I know it's not real I also you would see in a bit Ok Ok let's go sorry sorry about it so sorry. Seat belts. On the going to put the lights on shore going to put them on in the car park he she wants to know about so I won't use the license no names no sirens Not that there's only 2 roads away. So you to a school together when. We were perm school when we now we go to different 2nd turns where do you go at lunch or go to pretty little you all sorry I was talking Sonny some driver did you think it was Toby see you there is an idiot though this is going over up to much and to make human idiots I'm dealing says on his way by the way I'm feeling yes should be at the park in a couple of minutes Russian if we got there and she was gone why would she become like if it turned out that she wasn't real were you I don't know what you're on about ease my. Stall teacher I never said she was she just called him a snow I never did any just call you may see dark out. Cheating you'll be able to find her or I. Should do yeah she was at the bottom of the hill was she like right by the river Yeah she saw of on the side but I mean you can see her face. To woman I think she got a nice place he felt right and I'm just saying she has a nice face what's wrong with that a smart is an image he did it again was cold I'm a site where she'll stop Ok see it right yeah yeah yeah usually it's locked not always so quite often just hope it's not no. Way from a. Nice. Day for you while you watch the plays. I still go out. Oh. 2 Ok I'm just she's. On 24 killed our road by Katie hims continues at the same time to Mari. Blake almost died at the hands of her violent boyfriend but she managed to escape the relationship and is now helping others make changes and stay safe up the news Abby examines the systems available to domestic abuse victims including a new police pilot helping those in her area My name is in a couple of minutes. Meanwhile here on Radio 4 on Friday morning we're up to me at least. 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