2 basically 4 miles around chance break and some people get grumpy because their contact us from getting on the next nearest town down the road I'll say start your own podcast where a bunch of spraying the surrounding villages are done with a watered down on local nuts because that's what's all about. Joining me for this episode is Greg Crane he's a Vita and a critic for an Emmy you might remember he was on the show a few weeks back when we did all top 10 favorite shows of last year now also on the show today please prepare yourselves for some seriously high speed travel using the latest technology pocus Radio Hour has found a way to get from Broadcasting House in London to a train station in Hampshire in under 50 seconds are you ready get set let's go. I want to come back all the way if. You go in the. Same. Place that. Will. Sunderland it is with the hosts Betty board and Stevie b. Who are just they have got the most amazing energy and friendship it's such a nice talk us to listen to just hearing them and their chemistry and friendship that they have so infectious I really I think you're going to love this this episode we're going to listen to is about national maqam day did you know what Malcolm meant I don't know what it meant I'm always aware that it was a reference to somebody from that area only because that was I know that through lots of books are following football in the Northeast but I don't know any of the history of it's a really interesting to be yeah it's actually not him I'd ever heard of but all I'm I'm sorry to say but now I am very fully versed in all things Makem And as you will be I'm going to play a little clip now from Speak up Sunderland. Are. Only . Active and she's from and this. Was so she just bought the salmon and she's from so she'll see it might just be a Muslim thing. It is the place you have I don't think she would I get. Back to she's from Sochi and this is the lid you probably. We're talking about Clay current noted this Sunday that Sunday the top of the list is national Marcum day only Both professionally by our own signal this podcast is about the people and the stories of some men and if you are from outside the u.k. You might not know all areas of the northeast and it's famous. Just rude people really proud of the Russians are especially Muslims and if you look you clearly know there's a massive difference by the way in which we dawdle off what made you join soon. See what do you see that's just well it's super duper computer. Jordi fun about the boss but. You know welcome to get off the list little round not to go around to parts unknown we're going to jump on people and off let's face it let's see what the difference is because everything is technically some good well you never know it's our old we hadn't any When my prophet you say you might have to change the 5. Star talk to somebody who's like you Mark I think my absence going to change is rather how does normally you know when you go to different places I mean you go see if you go on holiday and hear that for a week 9 times out 10 you call them back with a slight different x. And you do adopt the accent like my brother's fiance is from Arizona in America How she feels. She's a good decision for me because most people we don't all told like that so we said Look why don't we go in the Straight Talk to a few people and see if they know and see if you're going to see you so much and hear the phrase from some forms like Hong Kong to have to fight with the health minister if it's applied the climate Oh you don't like them so that no phone that's right on the border between some of the 3 donors and died away or I don't know what only that we are are you from so yes Ok look I'm Ok yes I'm going to let him play from where I was already and just like we're going to find so much of what it's a good phrase you know what the office I don't want to it's not going to I'm going to glue so they are exactly the same is there any chance just somebody is Stevie I you know I I you know do you I really don't know I'm going to this is. This is the word I would say in answer you write. What. I. Want to get a quote from but later pounce on it. If you are that yes or no Celt. At all like when you're out of these to the very 1st hours have been very hard I was going to see your pals as if I got a cold I get frozen real or take in the House of mom's house the baby honey when I was young if you think about us when I do what I felt when I got out of the football. That was it's become Sunderland with Betty ball and steamy b. And a is pretty used by j. there not actually in that place I summarize this and see the Isle of Man newspaper part of gas just so that I can get the accidents because that's where I'm from any way that was speak up Sunderland we're going to move on to another pod cast just before we get to Shaftsbury the next one where going down the country all the way to Margate and this one is called buddy's buddies so this is a pod cast made by a gas producer d.j. And editor and explicit local personality now days maybe that's cool buddy piece I think is inspired to make this podcast because it gives him our game and he felt inspired by all of the people that were doing different creative things either bringing small businesses or have a specialism in something and a fellow there was a lot of unique stories to tell about Margate a seaside town in Kent and so basically what So to do is go out meet with these Ok this is the smallest. In the u.k. And well as far as we know if the smallest fanfare in the u.k. We. And there was one. Drew's I heard they they moved venue I think what makes it the smallest I mean they're obviously in top 30 in London which have smaller capacities we have a capacity of 50 seated here but it's a small stage which is only I think it's 3 meters by 4 meters yeah. So it's certainly smaller stage in the u.k. Yeah. Until we're told otherwise that's Ok that's as something that's. We were you know to be the 2nd smallest isn't quite as catchy and. It's yeah. I mean everyone's aware now I think the point is it feels like a real decadent tiny Victorian little theater yeah I don't think there's I don't think as many places like that I mean we didn't do this this was the original mother and daughter team who sort of founded the place in Notting $84.00 just turned what was a garridge into this magical space yeah it was an ark it was a coach started origin child so there is one thing $86.00 but. Sorry it's my dyslexia 1896 Yeah that's the coach house for the building next door that has to say. She's like yeah. I'll pine slash Japanese style very big in the. Very very and. It's coach house and then he was a gallery which And then it was turned into theatre in the eighty's. But I mean to have that vision it's a lot work to run the place but to turn this old building into a you know feels feels like it's always been here as I say yeah. Well I love the image of it being a coach I mean it's big certainly big enough to be something like that but imagine it as anything other than what it is now yes. Maybe a very plush t.v. Room she. Can't get enough of but then the ups some of the owners for the last family and she lived upstairs for a while so like the upstairs was now the bar was just a flat so the layout was very much a living room bedroom bathroom kitchen so I think the previous owners just now did a great job of turning down Geria into a bar here we've tried to extend that and we've not true into the bedroom now so it's it feels more of a substantial bar and we've actually put in an old. Victorian hotel bar that. Hopefully looks like it's always been there yet I didn't know there was a living I mean if we had 6 finances we'd left to do more with without losing the carrots I quite like the rabbits were nice of you will care you feel like you've walked into a kitchen because you have it and then you go find them but I think there are certainly things we could do to improve the space but. That was from Buddy's buddies that was at the sage Ted talking to you Alex and sorrow from the top and some see if. You're listening to podcasts radio with me about a live event in the car with Greg country and we're on our way down to Shaftsbury in Dorset and we're talking about some local broadcasts so that one was made in Margate and it's all about the people of Moore and that's what I mean a lot about them is that it just really celebrates the local characters and made me want to go and visit their tribes and it sounded amazing yet so unique. Always been it's really really comes across my only criticism of this one as it's called very long introductions I would say like 10 sometimes 15 minutes at the start when he's introducing what he's going to do and it's quite funny but he sometimes says this they this intros really long is quite enduring sometimes. Can't get to the progress in a year but he is a really into a ring that likable host of this podcast Oh I agree with you on the intro stuff but also why I would say is that. Quite often it's it's nice that he gives the Borg us like a sense of place so Mog a ourselves see on the sea side so within that you can kind of hear see goes kind of chattering in the background. And yeah it does it does place the poor guy so you do feel like you've been transported to Margate for the sort of duration of the guys but it's difficult not to sometimes to sort of a to not put too much detail in your introductions and things that I ceased to get carried away but like I say Buddy is this sort of ball of of energy and such a sort of likable person to descend to is generally really interior Well we are By let's find Kerry. Said he's going to be I. Don't know what your doings may let me tell you about the. Serial killers and Serrano the long knives. On the Grosvenor Hotel which is now coaching him and the Central show spray and there's lots of rooms that people have meetings in during the day in this hotel and sometimes they come in the hotel and people make decisions about the small little Dorsett market and I literally could go from room to room talking to people recording weeks local new stores and people sometimes when I've finished recording they obviously see that I'm doing an interview they'll come over and give me bits of information nothing salacious but the moment and I would in this event know I see it the town this is the heartbeat of the town writing. About the history of listen to Alfred why you want to start podcast about Shastri and the surrounding area I spent 30 years running small tiny local radio stations on my last job was also silly for 10 years not just love radio and storytelling and when I decided to move from the islands to the my not to show shaft breakers I just like the time and I started doing a writer's troubles which is great fun for the 1st year or so then I got to him sick when you've been away for. 30 weeks of the year so having been enrolled in various committees around the town a lot of the Shastri fringe committee on the neighborhood plan and Chamber of Commerce I realize that there were lots of really amazing things happening in shelves break a very rarely got a look in the local paper and I just thought there was a time to be positive about news without being saccharine a just to celebrate what's good about the town and give people a sense of of hope because they can make a difference and it's really hit a note with people who are getting really good responses and it's just nice to be able to showcase all the brilliant people that make this fantastic community why is the podcast called listen to Alfred we wouldn't be here we're not the King Alfred he founded this town in the year 888 Alfred who are the same guy who burned the cakes allegedly created an abbey high on a hilltop the highest point in Dorset 700 feet above sea level so there's a good place to the fans there's lots of connections with al for the name gets used a lot as a great tearoom just around the corner that takes his name so it seemed obvious and you'd be 1st in the listings as well with one we get on f.m. As a radio station will be number one near the top so it was a good move there as well so there are any stories in particular that your listeners really enjoy any kind of genre that they always come back to so it's about people really there's an incredible story about a guy go to some extent was misunderstood a guy is Kurdish who runs a hand car washing chaff spray and when he spoke about how he came into this country and presented himself to the immigration authorities refugee as a teenager and he went to South Wales and learned Welsh and then came over here and how he struggled to create it's own business and I'm proud he is of what he has achieved and what a difference he makes in supporting local initiatives that change lots of people's opinion that was really touching as you might expect Alice had to learn new customs and the British culture our food presented the biggest cultural shock Sunday dinner . I was look at us in our car not eating so we couldn't eat it was it because it was so much of it or just a little weird look. I've been invited to one of my friends for Christmas and I couldn't say I'm not eating because I always feel my shame if I shall not eat and everybody around me 10 hours eat him but I don't really want to. But when I try I eat it too late which is I really enjoy. A very small town you see a lot not the same people but you might know them or know the name of so say hello to somebody but you don't know the backstory and there are a lot of people understand if I don't know an incredible past and if you sit down with somebody for a couple of hours sometimes you can drop out how do you change their stories he covers it just whatever comes up that we talk about day I have to be selective situation where I have 3 or 4 stories I get people to pick up about things each day and I go to all the town council meetings and I get lots of public meetings and reports on those so I tend to look at events of lots of people attend there's clearly an interest I look at Social Media Metrics and I know what people are interested in and previous story reporting I do this voluntarily I don't charge and so I don't do adverts sometimes I feature businesses and there is a proper genuine story about authorial value like the b.b.c. When we're not there to do commercial our promotion is for people who geographically you would really tightly reined who basically for miles around sharks break again some people get grumpy because their contact us from getting on the next nearest town down the road and also start your own pod cast where about sharks spray in the surrounding villages but I want to water down our local mosque because that's what it's all about who the listeners listen to Alfred is it purely people that live within that 5 so 4 or 5 mile radius that you mentioned have you had feedback from people outside of that that discovered something about Shastri in the local area through discovery in Europe. Asked we have people who obviously are in the town and there are a lot of people in this area who come down from London for the weekend to go on holiday homes or weekend homes we've got people who are connected to Sharpsburg you're overseas you know going to a stray in Canada who listen and comment so I mean if you've got to be interested in chance because why would you listen otherwise it's all about chance for if we were stick a rocket we shall spray the runs all the way through it on this rock here. Says Alfred Shaftsbury cannibals annual general meeting was held on Monday the 27th of January and town hall Alford's carnival show presenters Maton Steve Appleby went along to report on a well attended the fans who just come from the Ensigns the town home which is the great body and how do you get that explain it's people that when you when you meet somebody and say you know I want to inspire you through for my podcast or how do you describe what you do I don't call it a part comes because we're a relatively old community here and I want to say it's a radio program you listen to on your computer your phone or your tablet so you mention that you're looking into doing it as an f.m. Radio station tell us a bit more about that so as I started this process I realized actually be quite nice and you know great is always in you and if you work in radio I want to get back into it and I just thought it's time to do something a bit different with radio because we know from the feedback we get to the local news and information in a pod cast that people have a hunger for locomotion hyper local coverage that we're doing so I applied it with our team of other volunteers for a radio license for Shaftsbury and we won it so we're going to launch probably still time 2021 it'll be unique we're playing no commercial music whatsoever it'll be all speech we'll have some music but it only be local artists performing live recorded as live and it'll be an essence like they offered podcast but a lot more people doing features about history heritage culture farming the environment various. Times during the wage and the daily sort of version of the pod cast in the 70s listening to this thinking when I live in a town or city or village or wherever that isn't being served by a podcast like this Alfred taking thinking back to those 1st steps you took in creating what kind of advice would you give to somebody or or even just a snippet of motivation to be like go out there start going represent your community just do it and you will get to if you if you reflect the real needs of the community and your fan that's really important fan balanced and you don't take sides you will get to this magical moment where you go public in microfilm somebody will come out and say Are you the guy or you're the woman from why you're park our school was quite literally the talk of the town well it's just because people people love hearing their friends and if you makes me sound good we're going to tell our friends I'm going to listen and that's all it is isn't it if you present people in the family kind why then they're going to tell our friends because we're going to sound good. I don't believe God things while we can be funky danged day well we want to I wanted to take you to one of my friends who is. A writer nature writer who is known in town for her passion for babies and encouraging be friendly gardens but your colleagues at country follow in town today and they basically taken all of our time to develop some filming so if she gets freed of Countryfile then we can go and see her be not teletypes like the not like radio hard workers who take forever to get everything done so we're going to this guy called him Chris Garrett to turn the long process here I don't know him he got planning permission about 6 months ago to create a gym and charge spree and there's been lots of surveys are saying if it doesn't have enough leisure provision our it's been a long haul for him to get where he is today but today literally today he takes the key was his new property that will be his. Jim we've arranged to meet him. To find out why he's doing it why it's interesting James was worried about was hopes and ambitions all and find what is funny to. Hear from. Him for the fun things for this growth of a new unit here and when you've got the cool you have them for an hour. Of wait a long time for this now to wait in the doors is incredible so now we're. Building the gym build a community. Building a community that's an interesting thing to say what you mean by. We're being told. That was carry chains from the old past listening to the outfit you are listening to progress Radio Hour with me and the end of the day and my guest this week Greg Cochran and we are talking about hype but local pub casts now the very sad news is that we didn't get to go and see that lady about the b. Boxes I'm sure if we listen to each episodes of listen to Alfred Nobel to find out what that's about. Maybe another day will do be radio Anyway I've already lived Carrie's book as I think that business Alfred is so great and what it is doing it really does foster that amazing community spirit and you can be his passion really does come very Yeah absolutely it was nice to hear that in the sort of 18 months or so they've been making the podcast The it's also made like a really big difference to Shaftsbury brought a lot of people together and he was saying that he never struggles the material support he's probably. Because because Shastri in the area that he covers was about 8000 people which is not a massive catchment area but he just never has enough room for stuff to go into his pockets and so every week when he's going to put it together he spoke for choice there's enough going on there enough people are interested in what he's doing now that he can make a really different sound in program every time he makes a new book I asked I should decide that we are obviously back in the car we're on our way back home now and I found also it was really interesting the fact that Kerry is turning the pockets into a radio station it's kind of like going the other way around and but it sounds like there is a real market for it and interesting that it's going to be a local radio station with no music is speech only and then there's a desire for that yeah and I think that was basically seen in like a valving landscape of local media like things are changing so you start a podcast but I was led him into going to create a radio station there's a desire for a still gets people locally who say they want that kind of thing so yeah it's interesting is always kind of this cycle of different types of media that people want to sort of consume they want to stay up to date they find out that's a really reliable form of staying connected with their local communities basically they feel that we can get their information or their insight with their entertainment about the wider world in other places but there's still very much a demand for wanting that hyper local stuff well we're going to listen to a couple more pod casts on the way hey I'm there also our local based pod cast but this next one isn't necessarily to do with a very small place but it's taking a nice part of a city and investigating that to this one is called Soho then and it's about Soho which is in central London you pick this one yeah so this is something slightly different they have a poor guys who looked out are almost like sort of local magazine shows or talking about news and they're sort of a. The things that are happening in the in the here and now basically like debating topics that are affecting people local to our area so dense a little bit different they're going at photograph it will cost so it's best listen to on their website where it's accompanied by the images it's more of a sort of document Tarion historical way to approach a hyper local or cost but it goes back and it is invested in different topics within the Soho area and speaking to people for a couple of decades ago basically in a way of preserving the things that make that place unique so it talks about food and talks about the fashion it's about the nightlife of so and it ends up feeling like this really special things like a museum piece like it really does feel like it's all captures the moment of so because everything's transforming all of the time and you hope that it probably does capture the essence of the place before some of the voices of how some of those amazing characters and people that live in that area run the local businesses that made it what it is made before they disappear forever and so it really does capture the essence of war so it's all about this is made by Claire Lynch and it's being commissioned by the photographers gallery so if you have a computer maybe Actually it's better if you look at look up Soho then podcast with a talk face gallery and you can see all the pictures on the website and a transcript that goes along side easy to pitches but I know exactly what you mean by saying that this is kind of like a museum piece it's a really great bit of sort of living history in and hearing people telling their stories and really great kind of sound effects as well we're going to take a clip from the 2nd episode called film and cinema because Soho still is very important to the film industry but it was especially from the sort of 1920 s. On it's. Welcome to upset. 2 of the so hard then Photo by spoke const I'm Claire Lynch already a producer and so her resident this program consists of 16 episodes released monthly from December 2013 to May 2019 Each episode has a corresponding collection of photographs you can scroll through as she lists. In this episode we explore the topic of film cinema and so has passed. And Pamela power guys with contributions from former and present day residents and workers sharing their memories of Soho from 20 years ago. In 19451460 1000000 people used to go to the cinema and it was all guys in the Water Street and the streets around so here was the centuries of. Absolutely in those days you will die war history each of the main buildings the Warner Brothers. All the main distributors film distributors for situated their offices were like in g.m. Columbia Columbia House was removed which somehow still had to have Universal Pictures in it and launch lots of viewings here and previews here change where we were going see precious little show an advertising agency a cinema commercial and used to see in the windows the films that were to come Water Street Windows as it was always full of film posters and things so people would there from that point of view this is the film street. This section of social making in those days and still to say the same now you know the people who make the 1st film production there are people to ship Buettner films people the films now but the Recognise ation had all 3 sections of it but that wasn't typical There were separate My name is Pamela power I'm 76 and I was a film editor I probably 1st went to say when I was working in a studio in Chelsea with a man who had this self-contained suit he had his hand cameras had a little sound room to make it was all self-contained but I would come a point where the sound had to be mixed professionally and say the sound engineer would disappear to sell the. Julia commercial which is what my employer Keith you it used to do for television hadn't been going back it was 55 when it started and I suppose it was 60 when I 1st started work so it was still in its infancy the 1st studio I remember was in a basement as a software. And a company called delayed. And they were on the corner of the street. And. Down we went and it was lit was a little cubbyhole really but it was perfect for what we were doing. Production of concern I mean London had more studios in Hollywood that would not know what Big years quite tiny ones but in number we had an old Hollywood I met this guy who was 6 foot 4 name of John were squeezed into this little cubicle control area with John with his desk with all the dials and the knobs and things on and the commentator all the voiceover would go into a little sound booth and record the script and then John make me sick with sound effects or music or whatever we were mixing it with and that was it initially when everything was finished film which was on magnetic bit like quarter inch tape but spoke to stock but then get sent to another transfer facility and transferred to film which was sent sent in a part trade processed overnight just like pictures would come back spotted stock which was blank except for this one back line along the edge of it which had little plates quickly bits which was restrained. And then eventually happens obviously some cut to the picture and sent back to the laboratory to be coordinated because all stock had numbers on the end. Every 16 frames as far as pictures were concerned and they have the negative the board matched. So they say they had a positive they matched the negative they held to the positive. And cut it to match and then married them together on one point so that you had your pictures with the little squiggly 9 on the side and we had what was then called a print. From which we then graded the color. Which could go back to your portrait several times to be recreated and that was your finished print you could hear music you could hear bangs you could it screams but there were coming from the edited rooms. The original Sheens that we were editing keys. That paint machines which tended to be steam packs which were a German made. And you literally had plates and the films went on its plate and the threaded through the mechanism in the middle. Or a were. The port had been Hollywood and machines. And the date from the. A thirties if not 20. Called Movie area. Which were upright machines and you could with commercials you could usually manage with to put your shit you're using to just stand and threaded through the machine as you keep running but it also had a school system that you just threw me in and here it. Might be tough if you're not going to be interested. And to gradually reduce it down to the c s I would shoot thousands of feet of film which could produce. 93 feet 212 trades for $6.00 to $6.00 of those for. Your her hands and your show just keeping the tension filled it was bad it was tough on the legs. That was from the pod cast so who then it's made by Claire Lynch with the photographers gallery you're listening to podcasts Radio Hour with me and today at the end and I guess this week Greg Cochrane we're talking about hyper local park casts I really enjoyed that because I go to Soho a lot by I hadn't really thought about that kind of the history of it just thinking about what it must to choke to physically cut a film together is absolutely IOW feeling yeah totally And I think like what really comes through in this poll guys are just the personalities but the vibrancy the sort of so I was not big area but you had all of these. Huge personalities doing different things like that happen so it's a really great but you also hear from some people working in that the restaurant trade is one episode that focuses on the food in so that they're amazing restaurants and cafes and it's going to it's so well done is kind of almost mouthwatering when you're listening to it and what what I love about this this progress is just how the personalities of the people shines through just seems to have so many huge characters that frequented and lived in that part of London and you listen to it and they just their voices kind of convey the history of the place yeah I think it is a really fantastic piece of oral history being able to hear these people's stories about a place that you know is still there now but the the the so what they're describing seems completely alien to me as somebody who walks to a lot now and I think next time I go I'm going to look up you know quite often with all these old buildings you know it might be a coffee shop or something but if you look at the higher up floors the building is still got the kind of signs of what it used to be. Or some kind of marker I just find are fascinating and I think it's still so relevant today as well because earlier this week in that episode they were talking about how a lot of Soho was bombed during the war earlier this week so a big street engine Soho got shut down for half a day because they found a World War 2 bomb did you see the stuff I heard still coming up today here it is it's it's a podcast but it's also like a preservation it feels like it's sort of. Getting those people parrot that and basically getting their voices and their stories feels like a really important piece of podcast making as well as something that's you know good for entertainment and learning everything else it's not so good then there's just 6 themed episodes with people sharing their memories and experiences of living in Soho from the 1920 s. Up to about deity 1000 and it shows that being local isn't necessarily just to a town or a village if you're in a big city you can find your own sort of little community within the city itself. Well our final local pod cast that we're going to feature today I've got a better vested interest in this one and I I said before that I'm from the Isle of Man And so I may be interested in kind of islands and island stories and this one we are leaving the island of Great Britain and indeed the islands surrounding it directly and this one going all the way down to the bottom Spain this one is Gibraltar story is Gibraltar isn't technically an island it is connected to you may not Spain by a strip of land which has the airport but it was an island at one point which we'll talk about later but it's coming it's a it's a rock but anyway this is Gibraltar stories it's research produced and presented by Lindsay Weston she moved there a few years ago and she's been going around the out and finding different people stories and telling to me some of the history of the place. So this is a place I'm ashamed to say I actually didn't really know very much about at all. By . The way of learning about places. And pull spent several years living in the u.k. Joining the closed from 2 years of the 1970 s. And early eighty's during their time away from the rock they found that their national identity grew stronger even to the point of educating their English friends and neighbors about their home and traditions between my husband and myself for about 10 different European nationalities within us through the centuries. Suppose but then we said we are an accident of history and geography but so many other places. Of reasons people have just been there sat there in their one place and everything's moved around them people have moved around all the time people went to the u.k. With with evacuation women. Felt differently did different things jobs they came back with different expectations. And then. The from the. 1974 and we left 5 years into the. We were the only ones that did as youngsters it was mainly youngsters we didn't leave because we were unhappy we left because of curiosity. All youth to now the take up is that was probably an attempt to Cappy a shall we say but with 2 babies undertow a 2 year old and a 10 month old baby. The friends of ours did without any children or even be married or whatever. Our intention was to go to the u.k. For a couple of years meaning that was the set for matches rock concerts cricket whatever you know just travel and just to do different things and then come back but like most things happen you get a job you get better at the job buy a house the children and you keep saying no next year we're going to go next year would go and until you said you say we go back home that's it doesn't if. Some people came before back before us some people came at the same time some people have only just come back but those people at some point in time want to come back or keep the communication now. In the u k. We tend to seek each other all the time. To the extent that perhaps pertain was accept to eat it's. It was when we all met we any any excuse to meet I mean back to some communions confirmations birthdays anybody they didn't matter whether it was the 2 year old's birthday the 6 year old's birthday Still it was still a party. Weekends this that the other was a lovely day come and go to Bob got to the think everybody Congress congregated and this was right across not just us as a family and friends but other groups of families and friends or met up and continued with all that to protect the things it was in that we just blended into being English and that disappeared No In fact our English friends blended into what we were doing I never forget my neighbors face when we put the sardines on the Baba Q one dish. Priceless. I've never seen that oh no no no they don't be no no no there was the bell today that was good fun anyway they Joy did. Yes yes that one 1st Christmas we invited to she with 2 books of books in the world these are $104.00 she paid for every Christmas she said Look after lunch can come from some of those cakes with that stuff you gave last time much. The 8 years we were there she came. But it's funny like that so we used to come back home every single year for holidays I made it a point that we could have obviously travelled from the u.k. Most anywhere on holidays but we wanted the children to keep the connection with Jeb. Even though. I tow. When we all know the family will go up. Because Paul sisters were over there his mom came over as well. And my cousin was there and we had other family. In fact we had family that had stayed over after the war cousins of my dad and their children so all this week that said we would like imagine that we would all congregate in different people's houses exactly. The instruction. To fly. With see that that was his last wish but it was it was that sort of that sort of a community even though we go away from the job we're taking this comes with us. That was from Gibraltar stories that support us by Lindsey Weston and I don't mind a little and you're listening to podcasts Radio Hour and I'm with Greg Cochrane we're thinking about local park yesterday and yet learned so much I didn't hear they call it Jeb. Which is really because I thought it was great I mean all of these programs that we've been listening to for this episode are kind of reflections of the the local area where they're being made and Gibraltar it seems has an entire wealth of material in that respect because geographically really fascinating place the rock but also you know you had a reference there the make up of the people that they Gibraltarians there the sort of history of the people they're made up of different kind of coaches and nationalities and they come together to create this. This this national identity Gibraltarians it's really fascinating to just hear about how that kind of the people from the island how they're co-chairs come together and so this is a really great job of basically expressing what he's completely unique about the island of Gibraltar Yeah and it's another one like I said then this very much a kind of history broadcast as well the find out lots of the history of the I didn't I didn't know that in World War 2 all of the civilians were evacuated from Gibraltar and then from 1969 to 93 General Franco in Spain blockaded that was when it was time. Nikki considered an island because politically it was cut off from everyone else so that is why it can compete in the island games even though it isn't technically an island it was one for a bit which is as you say I think get your old stories read the mix is history like this I had them on with it wasn't it but also like the others it was for we are we've seen Stonehenge again so where nearly we're on the way home. But yeah I've really enjoyed investigating local forecasts it's something that. You know it doesn't sound like you would find it interesting if it's a tiny place that you know been to where you've never heard of the so much to celebrate about these places and I think you know just great stories universal and if people have got great stories to tell it as I'm out of it and from and I think these books again many great things for the areas as well like what Kerry's doing h.f. Spree I think just seems like it's really bringing the community together and people are so happy to kind of piano and be involved pretty like a joyful thing to do yeah it's a heartwarming corner of the bogus world it is and now we know that we've only covered it 5 because today in detail and there's obviously so. The more so if you have got any that you want to recommend to is that you can send us an email on podcast radio hour to b.b.c. Daugherty k. And who knows maybe we'll do moment but he can find a reason to come I'm busy that's it from us today I have been a man to the end and he has been great character and I'm back at same time next week we're going to be looking at t.v. Companion podcasts with c. China to. See his approach was on b.b.c. Sounds if you don't miss that all will be here on Radio 4 extra at the same time but for now we are going in the car. See Stone Henge there's nothing else to say on this but a way. Thank you joining is an r.c.c. . 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