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He'd been having an affair with an 80 year old woman has died after she was hit in the face by a take ass canister during anti-government protests in MA say violence has broken out in recent days after the introduction of a fuel tanks in front She's the 4th person to die a group of M.P.'s say the transport sex trade should have done more to stop this year's timetable chaos on go via Thameslink northern Ryo the transport Select Committee claims there needs to be genuine change the people who rely on the railways and chat is the Labor M.P. In Greenwood the secretary of state sits right at the top of the truth but he didn't have the information he would have needed to actually call a halt to the implementation of the timetable change which think he could have been more proactive in seeking to test the information that he was sent Chris Grayling has apologized for the disruption but insists he received reassurances from train bosses just days before the timetable what life the N.-S. 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On their family and the U.K. Digital and on lighting and Roger Sharpe were up all night when the Play a board game in Iran so will tell a lot about you the fact that my nephew was excited about hanging out at the board game cafe and least with his new wife and I was there for the kids came along opened my eyes to an aspect of boardgaming I never suspect and yet in The Tempest Shakespeare's happily ever after revealing the end of the play the scores as fat man the Miranda playing at chess I should know that's not just a nerd thing for a more romantic and so I turned to Tristan Donovan and his history of an inch and obsession it's all a king. I guess we've always played the red mean it's. Sort of ended up being sort of categorized as part of this net coach effing Bill family's been playing ball games for Forever People been playing ball games forever in medieval times chess was you know a game of romance backgammon was paper I would the stars in the seventy's his book book games of Palm Paso fly for think it's actually quite a recent thing we started to see them as a bit kind of childish or a bit nerdy but this board game cafe movement is really strong isn't it and and it's a movement the that does seem to attract people who you know might be working for a friend yeah socialize any one of the great things about ball games is eats Let's say you have a ball game café Now if you have a date a restaurant you've got to keep the conversation going it's all be all quiet you play a board game well there's some rules and if you're struggling for conversations where we can focus on the game for a little while it's kind of bit less pressured. I think it's got that kind of appeal to it I suppose to of your you know if you have a friend that you write of things to say you can still hire out together even if you're not saying anything yes actually is kind of face to face interaction about any of the pressure of just right where have you got a can't keep the conversation going well let's talk about the sort of overtly romantic kind of aspects of boardgame and why twister very nearly didn't go off the grow can can you tell so to us to get started yet so started in the sixty's and kind of into day one to disc aim that people could play with their feet since it evolved into a twist as we know it where you spin the dial and it tells you which color you've got to put your hand on your 1st so on and now in in the sixty's this idea of kind of people kind of getting that tangled up together was quite risque. The idea of oh we're going to kind of put this game out and we're going to get well tangled up together it was seen as quite quite outrageous and in America says which was the big department store refused to stock it. The company's competitors accused of being sex in a box I mean it caused this sort of bit of outrage and it got stage where the publisher Milsom Bradley when we can't sell this game we're going to stop producing and give up on it and what saved it was The Tonight Show in America which side the evening primetime program. The P.R. Company had arranged for it to be shown on there with Johnny Carson and this beautiful actress playing it together and therefore Well we're not going to count so that even though we're putting out production and so. They go on T.V. They play twister captured the nation's attention and the next day everyone wants twister and that's how it started so it was seen as a very kind of outrageous game even though now it's sort of something kids play but it's funny isn't it because it actually was invented by and I had and you know what I'd agencies were like in the sixty's at least we've all seen Mad Men haven't. We could kind of understand why it was a mad man who came up with it yes pretty Speirs shoe polish promotion originally. Well let's talk about chess go about the beginning how did chess actually get it start Well chess is changed a lot so is it written A today in India. Early sort of what is it $680.00 some some time around then and then there wasn't of say a country called India up her empire and it emerged as this game sort of almost similar board to modern day chess board but as a 4 player game. I had quit the dice so I was a gambling game. And so you had these 4 armies fighting with each other and doing at alliances it was in some ways closer to risk than what we know is chess. So it came on the pressures a gambling game from but it's another religious groups who kind of felt well gambling's evil you should shouldn't play gambling games so they got rid of the dice and after a while they fought well you know for funding for people to play disclaims a bit difficult that's produce it. And then disclaims sort of started travelling with traders moved over to Persia and they changed some of the. Pieces because the pieces were based on the Indian armies which had elephants and things like bats and him Persia's I well we don't have these elephants were changed into chariots and so it's not a sort of this travel west and after Persia it went to the Middle East and they changed changed it to these more abstract. Plane pieces because I see Islam was less keen on the idea that you just have a literal interpretation of what the piece is supposed to be then it moves on to Europe in Europe site where we like this game but it's a bit slow because time didn't have to Queen piece they just had this one that move just like the king in say your star game and it would just be like moving for treacle your to play for half an hour just to get close enough to attack each other so in Europe we went we're going to have queens and make it a much faster game and really it's kind of this game has gone long and it's just picked up a little bits of different coaches it's moved along kind of evolving into chess over hundreds of years. And so was it was the Europeans who put Knight into the game and bishops Yeah and bishops were you know a point of contention in Europe or in the the French had the food left in can Italy was the flag bearer and you know no one's quite sure what the bishop was supposed to be and did up being the British British bishop in the end but there was a time where no one was quite sure what it was going to be we need there was a peace and it had to be something. You know and we think about chess of course we've all seen the kind of resin reproductions of the Isle of Lewis Chessman But but actually the standardized chess match was another British invention Yeah so it's kind who How would Stuart's and whose names attached to it that is actually created by a company called John jacks which is actually still going and. What was happening around the this time and this is the 850 is international chess tournament started say rich people were kind of if you like chess were travel from England to Paris to play games against great chess players there and then off to Berlin and so on and what they found when they got that was they didn't recognise any of the chess pieces because everyone had their own different style of chess space you know that come to play games and is that Bishop or is that the book I don't know you all it's completely different to what I have a home so it can quite clear there needed to be some kind of standardize ation if you're going to have people travelling to different countries to play chess and the Staunton chess set came along and had lots of vantages it was easy to recognise all the pieces they were quite easy to mass produce they didn't fall over which was quite a problem some of the very old chestnuts have very tall pieces which if you kind of your chest bows a bit wobbly they were just toppled over all the time so how do those advantages and people just sort of set on yeah that's the one that's one way we want for everything and then eventually get the official chess organization for the world and it goes right this is the official sets and really that's when chess sort of became fixed and stopped changing because we stablish this international told minutes kits and well you don't want the rules keep changing 7 said this is chess and this is how it's always going to be. And then if you're younger I suppose you think that a game like backgammon well it's always been our own but but you tell us that back and worse in the terrible spiral of the quiet and before the one $960.00 S. Yeah it's been a game that's really sort of struggled since the Victorian era. Once the playing cards became really popular gamblers sort of backgammon really lost its alert and by the time is coming to the late 1920 S. It it was just this sort of game that you know no one really played it kind of out to dition get on the back of your chess board but then when ready seem to pay any attention and then sort of gamble is picked up on it and tried to distance vice this doubling key which basically inflated the bets as you went along and that revived it for a while and then everyone lost interest again so it's kind of game that's kind of faded away and come back and had a big revival in the late sixty's and for out seventy's a guy called Prince Alexis open Lenski he was one of the Russians who fled when the communists took over he really loved backgammon and went on this kind of one man crusade to make backgammon fashionable and he managed to do it's every girl already stars interested and you know you'd have people like Tina Turner room Ringo Starr Ramy Jagger and Jimmy Connors coming along to play backgammon and these huge toward Ment's where people would put their bets of course was today quarter of 1000000 pounds on one game it came this really sort of swish exciting thing the you know people got to remark Oh it's a player that had this amazing heyday in the seventy's before kind of once again losing it's a live and becoming this strange game where voters triangles on the back of the chessboard here. While going by. To Victorian times and even predict Orian times in the 19th century was a real Haiti for boardgames at least for for the beginnings of boardgames tell us about a man called Milton Bradley So Milton Bradley really is the guy who kind of started what we think of as the ballgame in the street he's a guy from He's in Springfield Massachusetts and he sets a perp printing company using the latest printing technology and thinks it's going to make him he's for change and the sales are dreadful there's a recession on no woman's to Prince anything so is there with SMA Sheens that you can't do anything with say goes well are events a board game and maybe that will sell so he starts doing that and basic rates game called The check a game of life and this was. Really in Cheam with the times because New England was a very sort of puritanical area of the United States at the time so there were lots of ball games with these moral messages the sort of Christian messages about good and evil being moral and serious very much in Cheam with that so. You had to go around the board and you have to avoid sort of doing bad deeds and do good deeds for the leader to reach a happy old age and so he created this game but he was quite worry bike see kind of for well my Puritan. You know Fink I'm kind of falling off of the virtuous path by making this game so he said Well where could I go and sell a game that would be seen as i'm virtuous I know New York City. Where else. So he went there sold a few came back and kind of forgot about it because he got into the business of doing prints of Abraham Lincoln which was make him a lot of money but in the meantime that game started taking off and so that really started selling and started getting all these orders from people who want these game that really start the ball rolling for the modern board game industry and today I mean that games evolved into the game of life which doesn't have any of the moralistic messages it's over the ballot you know who can make the most money before you die. What were some of the things that you aren't supposed to do in his original game. Some of the things were it had suicide Square say you were not to do that and that was the worst square on the board head of a game ender Yes absolutely you got chucked out of the game if you went on to that square there were also squares about you know adultry of things like that so you know actually full time is a relatively tame game there was one before it called dimension of happiness and that was really severe RAM in it was kind of you know if you do something on a Sunday you get sent to the stocks kind of came so I mean some Bradleys version was quite liberal for a time. And whatever became of as pictures of Abraham Lincoln business. Well it did really well for a while and then a little girl wrote a program Lincoln and said you know what you look so much better if you had a beard and Abraham Lincoln Group bid and Milton Bradley's Prince just had a bit less so after a while people find out Abraham Lincoln's got a beard in the combat this is an Abraham Lincoln what you're selling me to say Abraham Lincoln's beard basically destroyed his business. Just in time for the ball game to save him. Just as well now the other great name in the field is George Parker Tell us about George Parker Yeah so he's a little later he's 1888 and he basically really broke away from that moralistic type of war game as a child he grew up playing things like that check a game with life and or his friends just felt boring you know all the time it's just the these preachy games you know we want something just fun and so part so George Parker came along went right I'm going do these fun games and we're going to do game bow banking where you speculate on the. Stock market him make loads of money and this kind of thing and he was part of a really sort of I should in this new wave of Victorian boardgames which wrote about sort of the modern new well that was a merging with sort of airships and telegraphs and department stores and I mean it sounds very clean now but of the at the time is very exciting so you get things like the game of bicycle race for the new new craze for cycling and so he really sort of move games away from sort of having to teach deeds moral lessons to it's just about fun. Why why do you think that was mean sociologically whatever people ready to get into capitalism for example I think people would started to move into cities they'd started to divorce from the church a little bit. They were seen the stuff going up around them it was exciting and new you had electricity coming really it just felt like this sort of modern age was sort of arriving and there was probably more leisure time happening as well people were richer people had a bit more time to get well what shall I do in my spare time so I think think all those things came along whereas before the attitude was well if you're playing this should be some educational benefits here you know you can't just play for him to tame and you know there must be a lesson you must be almost working while you're playing well or in the words of a very old American T.V. Show this is the 64000 dollar question and your question is who invented monopoly. Lizabeth Maggie said. Yes exactly so she she's so disses 1982 and she's a sort of prototype fent feminist if you like she's an independent woman which is unusual for that time she has her own job she has our money and she and she is very politically active and choose part this big movements at the time called the single taxes and their belief was really land you shouldn't make money just from owning land stead Let's abolish all taxes and take and do 100 percent tax on land on just owning land so you don't get profit just from sitting on a bit of land here and she wanted to spread the word of this she for our make a board game to spread this message and she created a game called landlords game and had 2 sets of rules and one was very much like Monopoly where you go around the board and say you've got 4 players one of you will end up the evil landlord with land all the money and everyone else be destitute just as in modern day monopoly. Version was under a single tax system where everyone got to share the wealth and everyone was happy ever after. Such made the game and it didn't sell them so everyone thought well you know when already interested in the single tax stuff sounds a bit dough is quite complex game for that time it at time most games were rolled the dice and just move around the board until you reach the end and this was all trading him buying properties a. Very complex scheme for its time so if failed and but people a few people were interested in it started copying it and they would just make their sort of handmade copies and their friends would seeing it. Well I like that game and they're copying and change a few rules here and there and this went on for about 30 years so it's kind of changed a bit like chess becoming closer and closer to monopoly in you've got things like the Community Chest cards integrated into it's of things like that and then India the 1st season quite a depression it reached a guy in Philadelphia called Charles Darwin and Charles Darwin was like many people under pressure and penniless really struggling to get by he had to say poor child he was trying to support really hard up and he saw this game and for I think I could sell this game so he called it monopoly started making copies of vets and eventually sold it Sir George Parker's company Parker Brothers who release it and it was huge it sold millions in its 1st couple of years and I think is timing in and this 1930 free was perfect because its deepest darkest Great Depression and his game where you can become rich where the yes is paper money be can have money and it really sort of took off. And what about the playing pieces I mean you know my memory and I are not battleship are Scottie dog or top hot you know they're pretty random How did that start well that that was partly because when Charles Doris started making his fashion of monopoly you had no money so one of the ways he saved money was selling the game Val and the pain counters and in the instructions he suggested people use little trinkets I have around the home and so people started using pieces from charm bracelets and that basically kind of a volved into these strange collection of objects that we see now there are just so utterly random just a little kind of Christmas cracker kind of prizes and of course the American Board the British Board are so different the American boards got boardwalk and the British board's got a broad street and so on and so on and if you're obviously what happened Britain got monopoly you know the American monopolies based on the streets in Atlantic City and when and Leeds company what interns brought over to the U.K. They decided they needed to change it to persist streets and they didn't know it was a landslide city they seemed it was New York and so they decided work out down to London and the head of what he turns along with his secretary spent day in a taxi driving around London and sort of working out where to go say. What should replace boardwalk Mayfair because that's the most expensive area and Oh OK road doesn't look that great let's make that there's he does but it's around. And they said they did this kind of big tour and they finished up by having a drink in the enjoy pub and they still had one street they had to find say they decided to put in the angel was Linton it wasn't a street it was just a pub. See. Her as she never isn't and you're not going to know it. And with that very much in mind. Cluedo was a very British game yes so this is probably the most popular British game that's ever been made. So this has came to be is guy called ANTHONY PRATT And he was a munitions factory worker in Birmingham cheering where War 2 And he hated life from June war time mainly because it was boring you know after dark there was nothing to do apart from kind closed curtains and tennis it's around that. He longed for kind of a more interesting life one of the things he really mess was the parties here go to and that played the parlor game murder where you know sort of one member of in the rooms the murder and has taught people signed Leigh on the shoulder room without being discovered and he also loved detective fiction sort of Agfa Christie and Sherlock Holmes and so he him and his wife one night decided we're going to start making a board game and that became clear Cluedo but they actually called it murder originally . So when the war ended they ended up taking it to Washington some when you know we've made this game would you be interested in publishing it and what decisions light the game but they didn't like the name. They didn't like different characters that had been there and they certainly didn't like some of the weapons they have in there like bombs and hypodermic syringe is so on so they changed all of those around before bringing it out as clear day. The wonderful wonderful series of it's the people is about as anything and it's a period of eccentrics in this book you know people who just they wouldn't you wouldn't believe they existed but not all the exist some of them became quite rich and I suppose we should finish very briefly with the incredible Marvin go us who was just there a press a boy and a maid games that were barely games at all yeah I did have a debate about whether he should even be in the book but he was such a great character I couldn't resist so he's company created mouse trap and operation those are the 2 big games that people will remember and see they use a lot of plastic that kind of board games they're kind of something cancer as well as sort of this integration of plastic an electronics but modern glass was this kind of Willy Wonka type character you know Maison treated with kind of you know bizarre character I mean he was like this sort of chain smoking dynamo of any just existed on coffee in New York nipple of a sandwich and he's completely paranoid he's sort of toy company was like this sort of high security bunker where you you know no one could get him past the front door without security cameras and being checked over and toys weren't allowed to have napkins in the canteen in case they scribble down an idea and someone stole it said I mean is completely crazy but he created a really went into the ball games going we want to do something with more action and you know we can have this sort of Heath Robinson type contraption for male strap and that would be amazing and it looked great on T.V. And it is bizarre man I mean nice turn up to 20 fairs with his latest prototypes and then have it in a suitcase that he had handkerchief to his wrist and you know. Is really hard to tell whether that was just for show or he was really was paranoid someone was just going to come and steal it from him but I mean he was a hit factory I mean made toys and games that sold millions upon millions and at one point was estimated one in 10 toys sold in America came out of he's toy inventions map. That's Tristen Donovan His book is called It's all a game a short history of board games and that's just after half past 3. On digital B.B.C. Sense just last week alone this is B.B.C. 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Sound 1st for news and the best life for this is B.B.C. 5 Live. 8 with Rod SHARP So now it's boardgames versus video games and the annual precursor to round up here's Adam rusher I know this is going on and I read them roster and of course the goose is getting facts and those type sentiments that come out from if you're somebody who worked for a long time and retired US every year if you don't want to get get move out that's it that's the party political broadcast on behalf of the retailing employees party and you Robertson is the editor of ask about games he's in for the family game of ending a low normally this time of year you go head to head with their mothers or family gaming guru but not this year Madge obvious is the editor of tabletop gaming magazine Hello Matt Hi there Adam how you doing not too bad not too bad you had a show this year 1st we'll start with this very successful I think in September early probably had to go Yeah that's right it was me it was on the 29 1st year from September it was a fantastic it was our 1st year we've already announced we're back in Alexandria. For next year which is very exciting but yes I'm to go down really well we had some talks we had new games to play sort of load stuff from the US release over some stuff coming up in Germany in October and you haven't seem to have a really good time and we're looking forward to donate again roughly how many people through the doors on that those 2 days we had free and a half more than for a half hours and people over the the 2 days X. And X. So. I said we normally do a sort of head to head but we're not doing that quite this year but we are looking at some games that people might want to think about for getting for younger people the younger person I have is downstairs currently playing Star Link is that going to feature very heavily Do you think but you will feel like the toys to life Tory game crossover has had its day but that most people have tried it I think away thinking actually this is much better than I expected and I would like it I think it's sort of toys to life that skylanders thing done in a much more modern way and I like how if you want to you can just play the game without the toys and I think that's important for parents to know that that's an option there and if you go that you do too you get a lot more vehicles and characters and weapons for your money but of course you don't have the toys so it depends on the age of your child which we are going to go are so huge they decouple the toys from the toys life part of the game in a kind of a white suggesting movie isn't it oh what do you think there was a bit of a backlash against the fact that stuff Mike Lego dimensions you couldn't go to certain places on the map unless you had characters with certain kinds of characteristics I think similar thing was happening in Skylanders was no you needed wheeled characters in the right kind of stuff to get certain areas to people feel not have been nickel and dimed a bit I think as those games kind of mature they will figure out how to make money and get that balance right I think at the end of some of those games they pushed it a little bit hard so that you you had to spend a lot if you didn't see the whole game was always true about them is if you had the starter pack you could get to the end but you couldn't necessarily see all the levels on the way whereas in. Starlink you can see everything was just the starter pack and I may be hard to do that if you don't have the exact right combination of weapons but you're not going to fenced off from any of the game and I think that's a good move and it gives you more value you know as a family you have different people playing it's an interesting sector sort of tossed off where it's calm Hakan crowd will find out about ISIS and she's playing with the downstairs and I got several ships and several pilot characters to want to play with one of the frame our pilot character's name quite well represented It's quite an even split between male female and an alien parlance Isn't it was obviously a deliberate choice yeah let's cover the bases and then off to sea on the stuff orcs character and content on the switches would be popular because it is kind of like a full on Star Fox game and those missions intersect interact with the main storyline and feel like a proper extension so there's a lot of good things to say about styling and I hope it does Well it's tricky there's a lot of competition and you know I think kids aren't familiar with this format now having had the break from the author of a title so I'll be that watching the sales figures to see how it does so one of the other competent source for the year for the infant Allah and well some games that we've been getting a lot of value for in our house of the play link games if you seen those in the Play Station 4 I have to sign on let me explain so they're games that you play on the Playstation 4 they're quite cheap so download titles but what they have in common is you use your mobile phone to play them and so are the needing lots of controllers which basically are quite expensive you can have a bunch of old tablets i Pod Touch and or mobile phone and that connects to the Playstation 4 and then you play this wide range of games now some of those are as you might predict kind of quiz games where you're just tapping on says but others are much more the kind of Nintendo sort of Mario Party games in their style and the competitiveness there is really nice and because you can have everybody playing together just some really clever things with in the interactions on the phone and then what's on the screen each of the camera uses the touch screen and. They're between about 10 or 15 pounds a pop and if you've got a Playstation Plus you get one for free so I think they would be worth checking out Mark play link is coming for your market there Matt Yeah I think actually in fact there is a play link version of Ticket to Ride on Playstation 4 the recently came out where you use your phones as your kind of hand of cards so there's been a digital versions of ball games before but more and more we're kind of seeing companion apps come into force and this is kind of the next step of that which is interesting because against more people you know you can gauge different people won't necessarily go and pick up a big box they might play on the Playstation as governments get older and it seems like we want to play with our children you know sitting downstairs with what you know the band of children she was playing starting so there's that quality of wanting to be in the room wanting to play alongside them isn't there all the many games are picking up on that part and piling you know a quarter of a game in is another kind of left field choices but I kind of like to do and it would turn for tricks which obviously parents who remember playing growing up what I do anyway and if you did but the latest version of this interacts with an i Pad So it's these are processed M C You get the set you get the cars on the track it's pretty much normal but it has like this interface so the i Pad know how the cars are performing and it tracks you gives you that times and looks up to all that but then it puts in things like weather like type damage field and so you have to pit stops at certain times you can even then choose the performance of your car to match how you want to race it so it kind of takes it from just a physical game on the carpet into the kind of course so when it does feel more like a video game and I really like that because I know I play because I remember playing as a kid and it's really nice to get into my kids to it and they're like they would be keen So you're still using the classical scale extra extract Yeah yeah and it's compatible with all the latest generation is going to trick track and cards. And then either you have these 2 versions you have the digital version is going to trick which is up to 6 cars on one track and a lane changing or you have the motivational just one on each slot basically But both of those have an arc system who are pro all our care but then has his i Pad app that kind of takes into that video game territory I was a little bit skeptical before trying it but actually it's really good in that costs over putting proper way saying and overseas collector cars are pretty quick and you need a good deal of skill to keep them on the track and so that combination it's been good as a my boys got the older now and having grown up with the Anky over drive cars in kind of going out of that it feels like this is a good next step for them so if it's raining in the ad does that mean it because form differently on the physical track Yeah it does so you calibrate the cars before you start so if you get effects in the race like an oil slick or rain it slows your performance down or you can have a yellow flag if someone comes off but what really impacts the waste is how it tracks the tide damage and the fuel you've got left so you have to strategically pull off into a pit lane wait there while your car we fuel and then you're back on to the track and you carry on to the pit lane in the new sets as well yeah the diskette trick digital version has lane changing so you have 6 cars but still only 2 rails but you can switch lanes back and forth on certain pieces and then there's a pit lane where you switch into it stop and then your the wee fueling or getting a tire change and then carrying on and you can do things like switch a tie so it's wet weather you could pull in and decide to stop change tires to wet weather and then you will end faster but obviously you've paid a penalty because you stopped in the pit so it's like we're schooled sort of thing which again is quite a video game we kind of feel and that's how we have a lot of depth on to the scary metrics which used to be trying not to get the Blue Cross to fly off the end of their terms which have the only risk there was in inside the whole thing on that's fascinating and actually that the one thing one final thing to say is that the digital set I've realised is that it's a nice thing if you fly off the thing always was but you put it on the wrong track . And the younger child gets shouted It's not that one is the other one but on digital it doesn't matter which when you put it back on because they can lane change and so you just pop it back on and you're away again so there's quite a few tweaks that quite small but actually make a big difference pyro sounds like witchcraft many men are after the idea of a scarlet trick so you can do all the stuff on the floor and just sort of a rough idea around the I mean what is one of those sets where you now have prosperous I think you're looking about to 50 up I haven't got the exact prices here but it's not cheap because it because electrics itself is relatively robust and it's more of an adult present when we get a list RICK'S ever changed that's Yes exactly yes if you're used to the sort of price you pay but it's a sort of thing that you keep you on your i think and you know you get good value out and it's compact with all the old track so if you if you've got a track sitting in your loft or you buy a whole bunch of the pay then I think you can you can actually access this you know for a reasonable amount of money Interesting interesting that sounds like it's something for older children possibly younger Sandon does is there anything for the really little that's around so there's a favorite game that when my kids were little every older now they're all back on the weight I was a game called Go vacation which was like an exploration game where you had this big open world these resorts to explore and they scattered throughout the resorts with lots of mini games Well this is just being we were least on the switch and takes that 4 player sort of local experience and gives it a new coat of paint and it's about $100.00 mini games the mini games are pretty good but I think what will young players will enjoy is just the free exploration so each of these kind of island was orts have different activities and different ways of getting around they have public transport so you can get on a get on the tram and white around you can find a horse you can find there cause and it's very simple we can use motion controls we can use the joysticks and so that's really nice and because it's in 4 player split screen you can play it together and progress so it's kind of like open world like when it came out in the way I remember I can I compared it to Sky which is a bit of an exaggeration but it has that feel of just exploring but it's for players at once. OK it's really good switch as a as a device I mean a lot of people are saying they're expecting a price drop a lot of the analysts have come out of the woodwork and said that the figures on as great as meantime you might have liked Do you think if you're looking at a switch you should wait until after Christmas if there is that prostrate I think it depends what you've got already if you've got another system then I would say don't be tempted just to buy the switch because it's the latest thing everybody wants you know enjoy the system you got to find the great games that I wanted and you know obviously the Mario games and those exclusive games they were only on switch but you know the majority of the high profile games are available across different systems so I think if you've got somebody if you're buying a console for the 1st time and you've got a family of young kids I think the switch is to the good proposition and I would say you're always way on these things but if you find yourself a good deal with a game bundle into it I don't think you know lose out substantially cardboard is that attractive now or is that a thing of its moment earlier in the year the lab or planner I beg pardon yes indeed you can order it isn't it. But that's that's the thing isn't it is there is cardboard I haven't seen it charting very high we do the way to charts and ask about games each each week and I haven't seen lab up in the high numbers there I think you know any family I've talked to who've used it and in my family it's been good they released the vehicle kit which I think is a step in the right direction because it's much more popular game play there it's more the kind of we know Island where you were exploring and you got different vehicles and things to do rather than the sort of more novelty pianos and houses that you could build is still a lot of work to put these things together and it feels to me like the best suited in a kind of a school or a group setting and at home the parent has to sort of be really invested in it for the child to get a lot out of it and of course is cardboard so you know it will wear and tear so yeah I think it's one of the you have to be convinced that this is that this is a good fit for your child if you want to go that way because there. Aren't cheap those labor sets and you know eat have to have that willingness to invest time as a parent as well yeah yeah and I can almost see if you want being knocked off of Windows so when the the robot that the big robot. Get something around the living room you know it's really things being shaken off of walls or got kind of kind of overcooked you think that's good a good game that's a very good party game is now yeah yes that's that's really good I think is good because it can accommodate a lot of different ranges in a lot of different abilities it starts off you know it's this party game a challenge to put different issues together in Barry sort of bizarre circumstances but what ends up happening in the worm is that you have to communicate with each other and I think little children quite like doing that you can have some families where one of the children just sits out and actually tries to direct mom and dad to tell them what to do when and I think there's lots of different ways you can play these games to make it accommodate a young player to do well in that game you do need to have quite that skill because the pressure goes up and I know some children find that sort of time limit an increasing sort of jeopardy as you get near the end and you have a new dishes can be a bit sort of triggering but it's really good it's a lot of fun of the if you've got kids that age well we missed one where were you going to send us from our mascot point kind of an odd one in terms is waiting as Marvel's Spider-Man on Playstation 4 which I think is a really good game for kids but it is picky 16 so the violence in the game means that because of the letter of the law that game goes into that pesky 16 bracket and I think that's you know you need to acknowledge that and you need to look at those ratings on the V.S.E. Site you can actually go look up and it will tell you exactly why that game is rated 16 but I know that younger players will be keen to play that and actually my 12 year old I said to him will play together so it's an open world Spider-Man game where you're exploring there's a really good story and sort of mission narrative a campaign properly voiced and acted but also there is open world where you slowly a lot more more skills to swing into. The buildings in this was New York Manhattan skyline is a really good game I know many people it's going to be game of the year but it is the has that funny thing it's just worth saying is Peggy 16 so parents need to have a look at it before just just buying it putting it under the tree and you were going to mention something else I think where there's one game that I enjoyed for a long time is just come to switch cool tower fall which is kind of a witch row like knights and arches game where you try to China shoot each other that it's already pixilated it's always been good fun but on the switch it's 6 players so if you've got enough controllers and you'd only need one half of the joint conferee each player you can bring the family together and all sort of battle each other is going to frantic areas all on one screen and we also have knife edge battles and the 6 players I think it's a real standout game 6 players I could say that's who are almost perfect Christmas fodder isn't it yeah because you have more people around and you know it's great it's available on the other systems as well X. Box and P S 4 but it's only 4 players so fun but I like that they brought it to the switch and they haven't just on the same again there's some new features in it and one of those is that it's this experiment which we've been playing a lot of so many you can see in there very patiently thank you for that and a lot of these games as I've said seem to be going for the multiplayer seem to be going for ages all ages sitting around and playing games together I know that and it's going to get time more tabletop himself What are your picks for the kind of Christmas something your family by itself is a going to play on Christmas day after the big the big dinner where would you send us 1st card game is something a bit more robust or I mean how you really depends what you're after I mean there are some fantastic the sort of modern classics by this point for a lot of hardcore boardgame is things like the telestrator and which is essentially a version of telephone the classic kind of game in that you you draw something you pass that to the person next to you they try to describe it past their description to the person next to them they try and draw and they kind of just gets more and more absurd than a kind of our. Of control as it goes around the circle then you've also got things like Well for instance everyone plays Monopoly but there are new versions of Monopoly out this year they're actually doing quite interesting things with the gameplay and actually one of them crosses over with fortnight the video game and it involves some of the kind of war building and battle right now aspects of that which is really interesting to see because monopoly often gets beat upon by by people who are playing quote unquote proper games have been kind of enlightened to these confuses board games there they're pushing the boat out a little bit more recently and trying to do inventive new things there but I think in terms of some of my before pics for years I've been playing a game called in a bind which is this small kind of independent the best way of describing it is it's twister stood up in that you draw cards and they say OK you have to touch your elbow with your hand and then you draw the next card and say OK hold this card between your neck and your shoulder and these things build up and you end up kind of contorting yourself into these impossible shapes and that was a really independent release by Zeina called bears and it's recently been picked up for sort of a wider release as a yogi with new artwork and that's that's absolutely fantastic So it's about the tenor and I think you can feel Retic me play with as many people as you want We've been playing with groups of about 20 people point because as long as they can still draw cards they can get involved and and that's absolutely fantastic one that's particularly stood out this year actually picked up this year's show to yars prize which is that the big German award for Game of the year is a bill which is this really elegant game about tiling walls your drawing tiles from the center you get a choice of tiles and you're essentially trying to build up and then tie your own individual and they've just a new version of that that's about stained glass windows so instead you're making mistakes which is called the stained glass of Sintra which makes it a little bit more complicated so if you've kind of got older players the. There might be more up their street but as it was it's done gangbusters I think it so something like 300000 copies or something incredible particular for the ball game world you don't often see those kinds of numbers so it's really something special you know that pushes into the Kharkiv some levels of selling doesn't it absolutely it's kind of been an instant hit it's already out there we've kind of you know it's a ride Catan it's a caucus on it's flying so does been incredible to see is it one of those ones with a that terribly trite phrase easy to learn and difficult to master is not true that it's certainly easy to learn I think one of the interesting things about stained glass of Sintra which is the new one is that that does introduce more complexity I think some some players found the original was all almost a little too simplistic it was you know incredibly elegant and fun to play but after a dozen or so plays you know some people felt like moving on and staying gossip's into a kind of introduces a bit more variability there are different ways of scoring so it's got a little bit longer legs on it than the original was also but both of them are kind of fantastic games in their own right and what about stuff like the old favorites sailed 5 it's only about 2 years old things like exploding kittens and there are more of those kinds of party games that come around stuff that you can't you had run really fast and play hands quite quickly Yes So the the folks behind exploding kittens actually put out their latest game which is Bears versus babies unfortunate I didn't think much of it if it lays a little too much on explaining kittens I think with such a hit partly because it looks fantastic and it's got this kind of real dark humor to it bore so it's so quick for and in about 5 minutes there's verses baby does just kind of became a little too much but there was a I suppose you could call it a viral kind of hit earlier in the year called the mind which is kind of a party game kind of a weird party trick in some ways it sounds really boring to describe because you can't talk to each other. And all you have to do is play cards in the middle that count from one to 100 but if anyone plays a card lower than any card you have in your hand the whole group loses so you're working together but because you can't speak you end up trying to essentially psychically communicate with each other is this weird kind of it weaves a spell over you where you start to try and read into small eyebrow movements or small kind of glances at each other to try and work out exactly what people are holding in their hands and some people absolutely hate it they just don't get it it doesn't work for them until some people have been absolutely spellbound by it and again it's about the tenor and it is just I think the cards are just the numbers one to 100 and there are a couple of other little things that help you out but it's incredibly simple and it's this really entertaining party game if you get the right group of people it will go down a storm that's how about something your your young people get into around Washington and try not to talk like that our father would stop I think gossiping. I think they would want a bit more action because they're a bit younger we would have played a bunch of games as well in this area can Domino was a big hits I've not tried There's a queen one isn't there is going to win a yes that's for that listing I don't think so similar to funny enough so King Domino was the previous spill to yards where no and so it's been this trend of they put out a very elegant simple 1st game and then follow that up with a slightly more complex 2nd game I personally prefer domino it's last Christmas Day In fact my partner and I played it the entire day it's a little bit more complicated than Kingdom and you can build buildings and so on but it still has that you know fantasy version of dominoes you're just trying to build areas and you can actually combine it with King domino to play with more people so it's it is worth getting it if you even if you already own the 1st domino is a fantastic game and that's nice that the to integrate together so you can have the biggest Setna defenseless what you tweet will set yes you can either play. I have bigger boards for a few people or more people with small boards now war hammer or more precisely Games Workshop I've been out in this ice quite heavily haven't I met I've been throwing out several big sets of stuff I lose track number of games coming out but if I'm completely honest the most recent one was an orc driving game hence Yes this is so this is a speed freak somebody wrote about yes Games Workshop in particular they went through a few years where they they kind of lost their mojo a little bit and kind of the old guard who were invested in more hammer and so on kind of started to turn away a little bit felt like maybe they they lost it and then recently in the last couple of years they've absolutely been smashing it basically they power a new 140000 they put out a new age of Sigma both of which have been fantastic and they've been doing more board games that include their miniatures such as speed freaks they've also put 2 games under the Warhammer underworlds kind of series they're not rulers and the old style of you know get lots of terrain and so on there are these fast flowing introductions to miniatures so you can pay 90 minutes as you can make them look fantastic but you don't need to kind of carve out 6 hours to play a game and speed freaks kind of follow us now is this really kind of hectic as you say or Grayson game is sort of Mad Max meets Warhammer in some regards in that you've got these completely bonkers looking vehicles that are just going for each other there was a current game recently as well the name actually escapes me at the moment but that was kind of followed along the same ideas so yeah they've really been expanding and kind of pushing out the edges of the world's elite really interesting ways and largely all of the games they've been doing have been brilliant. 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