Police say the cheats teenagers suspected of going on a killing spree probably hiding in a remote area close to where they were last seen cam McCloud in. McGill's keep the wanted in connection with 3 murders in northern British Columbia and we'll bring you for me too I'm told caused at the checkered flag it was a wet and chaotic afternoon is racing and how can I at once a forget for Lewis Hamilton I think France is a resounding quite miserable actually afterwards when he was would be accepting his defeat as Max restaff and took his 2nd victory of the season at the German Grand Prix. So 1st of all to that shooting in northern California it was at a food festival Witnesses say a man opened fire there are reports that several people have been injured it happened as the annual garlic festival in the small town of Gilroy about 80 miles south of San Francisco was coming to a close this man Bob's daughter was at the festival she just called back and said that. She and I think I guess apparently they said it originally 11 people were down that very brave to 20 people down. Eyewitness Peter told C.B.S. News what he saw on the right by. Birth right now and then you hear a link at the time that it is thought that they died but that it probably 50 yards from where we were let's reach our correspondent Peter Bowes in Los Angeles can you add any more to there Peter would we know. Well Daryn this happened a couple of hours ago and as you can imagine with the police just as recently the last 30 minutes saying the scene is still active so a lot of confusing reports coming out understandably from that area and we've just heard from those eyewitnesses what we don't know are the conditions of those casualties whether it is as many as 20 as some people have reported we don't know the condition but we do know is that several ambulances have been seen heading to the local hospitals and this happened often at the end of this 3 day festival it's an annual Food Festival a garlic festival it involves competitions cooking competitions live entertainment and there is a long standing tradition in this small northern California town as you said I think about 80 miles to the south of sun from Cisco and it really is what this town is known for everything was wrapping up some eyewitnesses have talked of a couple of hours ago hearing gunshots and a tremendous amount of confusion seeing people around them go down and of course fleeing for their own safety the police Gilroy Police Department issued a tweet within the last 30 minutes saying that the hearts of Gilroy P.D. Police Department and the entire community go out to the victims of the shooting up the garlic festival the scene they say is still active and they say if you're looking for a loved one information for local people were to go reunification center it gather Lun college next to one of the parking lots and when they say that the scene is still active feature would you understand by man. Well I would understand that as meaning possibly that they are still trying to apprehend the person responsible for this or it could mean that there is still an active investigation underway they might be looking to see if there's a 2nd person involved it's always very confusing in the early minutes and hours after a shooting like this as to how many people were actually responsible for it and to describe it as an active scene suggests to me that the police don't have all of those answers and of course they're being extremely careful I know a lot of people who were inside the festival and moved out to Art trying to get to somewhere safe still have their camp of arms their caravans that they travel to the festival inside within the area that's now cordoned off so a lot of people just milling around waiting to see what's going to happen next he said it's a very post popular festival which you can of thousands of people be then yes although this is actually quite a small town a town of about 48000 altogether although people will have traveled in from neighboring communities there although at this stage I don't have an exact figure on the number of people who were attending it seems from what I understand to be a very popular event and I think it's fair to say there would have been a large number of of people that are for now thank you Peter Bose there in California Boris Johnson is heading to Scotland where later today he'll call on the U.K. To renew the ties between its 4 nations to ensure a bright to post break said future is the prime minister's 1st visit to Scotland since taking office in attempt to allay fears over breakup of the Union after a break said with the S.N.P. Having branded him the last prime minister of the U.K. Where poor Gallagher is from the our newspaper is tell me Mr Johnson is said to announce a financial boost for Scotland Wales and Northern Ireland if his pledge for the union is going to make an announcement late of a 300000000 pound boost for. Scotland Northern Ireland and Wales vowing to renew the ties that bind the U.K. He's going to deliver his message in Scotland where the Tory laid a wreath Davison is actually odds with him over his willingness to lead person out of the European Union without agreement now the prime minister's going to couple his visit to a military base where he's going to make this 300000000 pounds announcement for communities across Scotland Wales and and Northern Ireland. All this coming on the backdrop of the Scottish National Party forecast in the his batting for a no deal Grex it will ultimately lead to Scots voting to leave the U.K. Now Mr Johnson will insist during today's visit which will be followed by steps to Wales and Northern Ireland that is passionately committed to preserving the Union and he said last night our union is the most successful political and economic union in history we are a global brand and together we are safer stronger and more prosperous now is going to be a headache when I mentioned Reith Davidson earlier because she has come out and said she will not support a no deal Bracks it and she's already said that she's going to be prepared to take on Boris Johnson and point out the differences where she is at odds with the prime minister over his willingness to lead Britain out of the European Union without agreement so while this announcement later today is going to be welcome news to all Unionists he's going to have a few tricky conversations with his counterparts in well it with his colleague the Scottish Conservative lever laid a wreath Davidson later today as well interestingly enough with those 2 themes together the poor because in food conservatives in Scotland other thought the issue of the Union and the issue of no do Briggs it will work. Pretty separate issues they are but there's a huge concern the Tories have had a real revival in recent years and that in Scotland and that's largely down to Davidson leadership and charisma she's turned a party of one M.P. In Scotland to a party of 13 M.P.'s huge influence among others the conservative party and she knows full well that taking the U.K. Out of the E.U. Without a deal is going to be extremely bad for not just the British economy but the Scottish economy in particular and she faces that will give boost to non-conservative parties and another boost to. The Scottish National Party and her fears are that this will lead to have a knock on effect in terms of the support for a 2nd independence referendum as well so while Boris Johnson has his red lines when it comes to dealing with Brussels it sounds like Davidson's got some of her own bread lines as well which don't match those of the man now in Number 10 with no apologies to Game of Thrones you could argue that she is the PM of the North. Very much so and I think as as PM in the north east we listen to. North of the border obviously very much so and Dean Doris' who was always a born supporter is in the government now isn't surprising. Yet comes a quite a surprise to many really now this is an M.P.'s campaigns the tougher curbs on abortion now being made to health ministers barge Johnson completed his government reshuffle last night it is a surprise appointment she has been a longstanding supporter of the new prime minister but that this decision came under fire from pro-choice groups the dangerously letter an unsuccessful Commons bid to cut the time limit for abortions from 24 weeks to 21 weeks and to bring in a 10 day cooling off period before terminations can go ahead and she's also called for girls aged between 13 and 16 to be given compulsory school lessons on sexual abstinence Now she did take pains to point out that she trained as a nurse after her appointment yesterday saying she was absolutely thrilled by her appointment looking forward to working with a team led by Matt Hancock The health secretary but Catherine Meyer the president of the Women's Equality Party told I we should be deeply concerned about a cabinet that doesn't want people to have a say over breaks it which threatens to damage all of us we should be at least as concerned by the appointment of the dangerous who doesn't even believe women should have a say over their own. Bodies So quite a bit of criticism there the campaign group Doctors for choice U.K. Also said it was a concerning appointment as Sheena dangerous has repeatedly attempted to restrict abortion access during her career. As an M.P. I should point out the one final decision that was made. As well so was that Goldsmith and other ardent bright city he was promoted to the 1st rung of government as a junior minister in. Environment and international development departments are 2 very very prominent bricks it is too hard profile and pays as well in our part of the government. Although she we as journalists don't know we have to gear up for an imminent general election or no that seems to be one of the big issues of brose youngster now becoming prime minister with the the Briggs's deadline looming What were you doing at the I.A.E.A. You say you're preparing on the one hand for perhaps a pre October 31st election opposed to earlier ones. A week is a long time in politics now and who knows what's going to happen across a 7 day period and it's you just don't know which way it's going to turn Dr the rain it dipped all depends on whether or not boys Johnson can secure some kind of renegotiation with Brussels over this this withdrawal agreement. His big thing invited all of the all of the vote leave top team into into Number 10 now running policy across a wide whole department and I suppose the thinking is if they can't get it done by October 31st then then who can and of course if they can't get a get a deal if they're preparing for a no deal but of course they don't have the numbers to support that in in in Parliament and if they can't get that level of support in Parliament they said they will try to spend parliament and then we might see the battle ending up in the in the Supreme Court deciding whether or not Parliament has the power to actually do that so there's still sorts of options. That all sorts of. Ways we could be going in the next in the next few weeks and whether or not we have a general election that's something that Boris Johnson doesn't want to happen certainly not before BRACKS It is it. Has made his move in issues not general election is more of an issue for the leaders of the opposition. Very much so. Jericho been a said that he's prepared the Labor Party repaired for for general election has refused to be drawn on whether or stage a vote of no confidence in the new prime minister but suggested it would take place when Parliament returns after the summer recess and he said his party would start campaigning for a general election over this summer concentrate on green issues environmental issues and social care and he was not the slightest bit worried about competing against them Mr Johnson of course all this coming on the backdrop amid continuing speculation over how long Jeremy called me 70 will remain as as leader with one natural disgruntle backbencher telling I today he would be gone before Christmas or perhaps before even that general election takes place Paul Gallagher there of the news very very. Canadian police say 2 teen age is suspected of going on a killing spree probably in hiding in a remote area close to where they were last seen cam MCLEOD And Brian Schmidt girls wanted in connection with 3 murders in northern British Columbia they were spotted in Gillem in Manitoba which is around 3000 kilometers from where the killings took place and have since then been other possible sightings where locals in York landing say they would celled to stay inside their homes as police responded to reports of the pair been spotted searching for food James favorable is from the big plan patrol and local volunteer groups in the area James thank you for spending some saw him with us are you part of this manhunt for the 2 teenagers just to be clear we're not part of the manhunt we were asked to support the community by our grand chief here Arlen dualists do you do you know anything about the 2 wanted men that well we are we are painfully aware of what's going on with them we had a group in the community to support the community and it was just kind of we're in the right place at the right time at 415 this afternoon our group is doing a primitive search and they were able to they did they found those 2 guys looked like rummaging through the dumb for food. So members of your group believe they saw 2 young men yes or and where was that was that rummaging for you and sold the 1st Nations communities a dumpster typically kind of off in a corner in the periphery of the community and so they were again they were that out in that area doing a perimeter search there's the garbage dump is their water treatment plant and so they were just watching things and they just happened to come across those 2 gentlemen going through the garbage and the gentlemen were aware that there was a potent. And yes once they became aware that they had eyes on they they bolted they went across the road towards look good and that disappeared by the tree line is there any day that it wasn't him and. There is what they are until they're caught there's absolutely a doubt that it was them but they are C.M.P.D. And the police have gone to the area there they've narrowed the search down to an area about the size of a football field and they've got helicopters in the air hovering over the area there and shots fired so we're fairly confident that they they will be caught today I'm hoping as a bit much concern in this area the ball the outtake the whole village has been locked down for the last 2448 hours since then the news that they were spotted in their community like everybody's gone into lockdown How dangerous are these 2 men or at least what we're officials saying. About the danger and I don't anything about the the charges against them because of the killings who they're. Having to be responsible for but are they considered dangerous to the community now and then well if the warning is is that they were armed and dangerous when our my group saw them they had no backpacks with no no visible weapons or nothing with them and so we don't know if they are still armed they may have got a cache of weapons somewhere else but that's not we don't we don't have that information so far we had reports that there were 3 gunshots fired but we don't know from who. James I'm looking at the map here it does seem to be pretty remote this area and then it's over yes sir you can only get there by ferry like there's a road that goes but lake and then a ferry that goes across takes about an hour or elles by plane that's the only way in or oh how on earth did they get there then do you know anybody I have no idea and that's a good question yeah because they're long way away from British Columbia where they're from and they certainly are how long would have taken to get across you know by any means necessary from British Columbia to Manitoba Well it seems like it took them about 36 hours that is it means they probably took shifts driving I said it had driven the whole way yester So there are roads all the way up into this will there are roads Yeah there there absolutely are roles but they do tend to end up there right. You mentioned this is 1st nation territories Yes or and do you mind me asking which peoples reside in this area. This is your planning 1st Nation it's a pretty Creek community I don't know much about that community and so as you can imagine we really haven't covered many. I'm sure how many people in that nation. Maybe a 1000 and that's a sorry go to the community of talks like that we were also in there's only 140 members there so it's very easy to spot outsiders I should imagine precisely Yeah and when you say the community is that log and they spread over the entire area of many times I'm. Sorry can you say again I'm just asking how far spread is the communities the nation it's fairly concentrated just they have a lot of land. How do people make a living. Again I think it's about a 1000 community members they're all spread out over 200 square kilometers right just wondering how people live there must be very difficult for them in particular in harsh times that we are in so and to survive Well absolutely but winter rolled provide for some of their needs there in the winter and I'm actually a trucker by trade and I do want to roll it myself and I've been up that way but not to that community. And I said that you represented this big group whose role Yeah it was a big 10 we are true we are a community safety patrol here in Winnipeg Manitoba we we started with football volunteers in 2014 on a budget of $900.00 and grown to stick $1600.00 went big baseball in tears if you want communities nationwide and we're now approaching a 1000000 dollars this year incredible. Incredible what you normally do but we are normally a community state patrol we patrol our community and interact with our community members there's a lot of exploitation vulnerable people crime addiction violence so we're there to try to deescalate could it and. Oh sorry no so I thought we lost you from James Gray Yes I imagine that nothing like this is it and no just the 1st yeah yeah you've never had to do anything like this it's Oh that's right he says some concern for your patrol too as well at this point the police presence there everybody's pretty much covered just. You know it's nerve wracking that this is happening and there'll be for a peaceful resolution of course that was to rain like there if people was boreal forest Oh do so this could take some time before they track them down it's quite possible we're hoping that again because it's. Because we have had the fighting that there's it's it's very hard for them to make any real ground after you know like right now because the ground is so rough that would there's only a short just of that they could have made it since the police arrived I think I think they're pretty close to them James thank you Brigid pre-shared the James Frey view there from the big producer Oh local volunteer group in the area as I said for some of the covered many times does seem very remote where this actions taken place the actress Recy Taylor who has the who was the voice of Disney's many mouse for more than 30 years has died and the age of $75.00 she was most famous for voicing many males she was a voice carried says in The Simpsons including boats dorky classmate Moats imprint met so many is one of the exact who produces on The Simpsons he said to me I need some me what type of person receive those receive was I would say more than any of our other fantastic voice actors she was a living cartoon character like a visit from Russi to record Martin or router or sherry and Terry was like an animated cross between one of the Cinderella godmother very godmothers and Minnie Mouse and all just kind of exploded into the room she was just shrieking with laughter and she was like kind of a human marshmallow. Who is hugging everyone in she was a C. Was soft and you Hunter it was a soft touch like she was squishy. And I'm not totally positive she wasn't really animated in real life. So what I'm trying to say I know I could hear she sounds like she was made Voice of you know she really was and she had she had such passion for the characters and I you know I you know she did many and she did so many other classic characters but I do think that Martin Prince maybe is her most original creation that she really brought to life from her or not just like another character that she had been hired to do not that many isn't great but you know her MARTIN When I when she did Martin you just saw this twinkle in her eye that she that she had breathed life into this adorable chubby little fat nerdy weirdo with with such silliness it was just it was a wonder to behold. Was that voice entirely her creation that no I suppose to sitting said is predicated on the carriage to this been drawn did she have free reign to develop the character her voice was that well you know I mean you know she really read the lines that were written but I think when once the writers discovered the kind of joie de vivre if you will the passion that she brought to Martin that changed how we wrote him in that we knew the direction that Russi would push Martin and we just made him his as weird and strange it's possible and she could still make him human you know but also very funny and met some of the one of the producers of The Simpsons Simpsons even paying tribute to the actress. The voice of most imprints in The Simpsons who's got the latest 5 Live headlines as Matson human home digital B.B.C. Sound it's just last week the vase is B.B.C. 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Good morning well we had sunshine for some this weekend but for others a weekend of relentless rain conservation Manchester seeing over a month's worth of rain and that led to some localized flooding now the front that was responsible for that is still with us today but it's moved a little bit further north and we can off considerably so I'll start our forecast across Scotland and Northern Ireland but it's going to be a cloudy Misty damp started to the day with outbreaks of light drizzly range which will push its way steadily north and east the front breaking up into showers and top temperatures of $19.00 to $20.00 Celsius for the rest of England and Wales it's a dry start with spells of sunshine and certainly where we had the miserable weather over the weekend it's going to be a much better day cloudy have a little into the afternoon but top temperatures of 24 to $26.00 degrees but if we move down to the extreme southwest there is an area of low pressure and that's going to start to push slowly to. As we move through. The day. And increasingly this area of low pressure. And strong to. Need to keep abreast of the. Weather could be quite nasty. This Radio 5 Live on the B.B.C. Sounds all night. Racing. To forget. The season and the German. Jenny go and the checkered flag in the round up of all the action on an extraordinary day . On. A welcome back to Hockenheim where it has been an extraordinary day and an extraordinary Formula One race. Jack Nicholson and Benson are all true in the commentary box and I'm still down here in the paddock the teams start to pack away and just trying to simulate what happened Jack if you can put it into words can you but you can have to because that's a job. That was my job all afternoon to talk about the madcap things that were unfolding at the start of the race Hamilton started on pole it was raining got a bad start. And was living quite a control for Hamilton The rain continued to come every one of the slicks and really the crucial point was Hamilton living off the road and crashing into the wall basically he was bored he putting a lot later than his rivals but he crashed and when he came into the pits the team didn't realise he crashed already just found out they didn't have a ready that cost him an awful lot of time dropped him down the order of a step and took the lead. And that was sort of game over for Hamilton he had to have another spin. As well as he tried to climb his way back up the order a step in one Vettel managed to recover into 2nd place from starting in 20th position and Danica fan finished 3rd for Toronto Meanwhile Valtteri Bottas also crashed out of the Grand Prix so championship points wise it remains the same a $39.00 point lead for Hamilton overbought that's that's kind of a decent summary of it I think I think that's roughly the story of the race. Think you did a pretty good job Ed Julian from a driver's point of view is that the sort of. Race that you come away with physically and mentally exhausted from it all how do you how do you feel less physically exhausted actually because the speeds were lower Technically there was a lot of talk of the safety car probably less physically demanding mentally that as tough as it gets you go from work conditions to droids what enters all the while trying to keep it on the track trying to keep racing trying to give feedback to your engineers as well the pit wall the strategy was clearly crucial today mentally that is as tiring as a group really gets and I mean if I'm in the commentary box as well just trying to keep track of what everyone was doing all the time it was hectic let alone trying to keep on the track was going a lot out to the limit of the graft as well. And seen you write the race reports how many times did you have to rewrite what you were writing a weighted journey actually. Because I have experience yeah me and I kind of started off but even then I was like Right how do I do this. Just Amazing Race remarkable so many stories. So many stories. Happening when he is in front of Sebastian Vettel he came from lost on the grid down OK on the podium I mean there are stories up and down the finishes of all 14 of them Lewis Hamilton gets no point spouse report ash crashes out the clear crash I mean as you said a lot a lot went on behind trying to work out where to start as well OK let's start with the success of a star in front of basically a home crowd even though where in Germany everyone was supporting him here it was an incredible scene an incredible achievement for Red Bull and for this to happen in a fantastic atmosphere as well when he when he took the wind. I gave the staff and my driver of the day on our sort of live comedy career earlier on. And then I regret that a bit because I'm thinking about it obvious he did a good job to win the race. You sent your thoughts to get back to a little bit because I'm about to back track Jack because he got a bad start OK came back through the order a little bit but fundamentally it could have passed both us on track Kitty No you couldn't pass both Afghanistan on track as well and especially how to spin it 15 and whilst the door Bruce Lee drove fine it wasn't exceptional or outstanding from a step and may arguably one of his less impressive. Wins in Formula One I genuinely I don't I mean I agree it seems crazy because after all the race he did he was the biggest gun really with the fewest mistakes maybe Sebastian Vettel but he had more pace the best in the wet as well but it was actually an eventful for his step and really between the him the ripple car clearly is quicker than the midfielders and the SO between him the car and the pit wall they won the Grand Prix it wasn't just happens driving genius very well he didn't really make a mean made a mistake on their medium tires and had a harmless spin but. It was it was really the strategists and Red Bull in the pit stops but generally the right tires at the right time E.A. Could go for softer sort of mediums when he did have a spin but they caught it right and that's why he just ended up winning. Let's hear it from our race winner then Max up yeah it was of course a great feeling especially when it's so hard to judge what is the right call by the thing with the team together we made the right. Decisions all the time they give you gave me good information and based on that of course I could say OK let's box and they could tell me by going to an interim whatever so. You know very happy. It's definitely been one of my most difficult races out there but then of course it's great to to win it. It's a race where the banks to step in speaking I'm going to put a crazy ball here and drive her the day actually as you said should be the stepping but it should be better my land as a safety car try Pierce just it through my right he was a P.C. Busy man today out and now and then about to say together now in I think it's just crazy like a bit of pace at times to me and when all for we knew was it was exceeding track limits a lot he actually did go slightly off an exit a turn turn one lap as well so not without mistakes my land. OK So would you give driver the day to the 2nd place finisher Mr Sebastian Vettel No no because as he said he struggled on the intermediate tires couldn't really get them going in the start at the end of sort of lap 2 or something he was in about 9th place and he stayed there with all the race struggling on the intermediates until he got the soft tires on behind the safety car so everyone a bunched up and he only had to deal with science stroll could be out our job and not see in much much worse cars so actually that was a fairly straightforward scenario for Vettel to be in as well and I thought when I HATE ON THIS TO HAVE A Vettel I want to that their drugs weren't that great but again Vettel. Struggled a bit 1st record of the race and then when the track dried and he was on dry tires and could get past slower cars he did but also Vettel was up into 8th place within the 1st 10 laps of the Grand Prix so the fact he came for 20 if he did and the starts will say that's a very impressive choice but he made up those places so quickly that it felt like you just sort of hovering around 8 he was done behind so I can in 7 retirements put him in 13th already even do anything and for me yes to stop him Vettel they did they did well they didn't make big mistakes but they're in their 6 car race we know that when was the last time anyone else managed to win a race Pastor Maldonado or commuter I can in a lotus I guess in 2030 but when you have bought us out the race Hamilton in the wars the clear out the race guys the out the race if according to the front runner there's only 2 left in the sure they finish $12.00 Yeah yeah and you know Vettel even Vettel himself says he wasn't a happy in the beginning of the race and that's what we saw wasn't it wasn't making progress once he'd made that initial burst to the sort of bottom end of the top 10 he kind of got stuck there for a long time he's actually talking to Jenny talking to the media afterwards he was he felt a bit of a David Coulthard approach spectacular but quite quick and he said his race only came alive when he got on to those last laps on the slicks and that's what happened he did drive very well but he was in what was probably the fastest car this weekend yet point and he has had less pace than Reichen on the wet tires he caught up with him just dropped the way from Reichen in the output with the same engine of course when it dried up it's always going to favor the faster cars because their pace is more standard formerly you was more to qualifying a Ferrari were very very quick this weekend and I want to take away from the better he still came from the back he was still on the track other people many other people went off the road even some of the finishes to stop it had a spin science of spin Vettel didn't and I'm pleased for him because he deserves a good podium he deserves a strong result of the run is had but just not not driver the day for me. And is it going to be caveat then that in Finland in a 3rd on the podium he's just become a new daddy is he the daddy of Jim No no you are going to kill the Argo Kiviat because he. Had a reasonable race whether the decision to swap tires was him and OK the reason go but it's there because he was so far back in the pack when the last safety car came out he could afford to take the risk so I suppose he did well by being far back but I still think he did a good job held off blunt strollin kind of science in the closing stages and stayed relatively within that after being overtaken the last year or so ago Kiviat just because of the whole narrative of his life and his career and and all of that kind of stuff so I'm going to keep it but surely you got to give a driver the race for the guard at the best race driver of the day and this is day but. Had a great race you're going on stroke no for the same reason as I'm not going to give yet because they both had a good race undoubtably they finished 3rd and 4th brilliant drives for the last 15 labs but where were they for the rest of the race the race was was 6164 laps long in the areas where were there it matters where you finished 3rd or where you were on lap 10 My know and they did great they did great but as a driver across in the race. I'm really pleased with the other podium strong as well but they they lucked in a lot more than some other drivers farther down who I think drove better in the race but ultimately bad fortune ruled them down I mean I'll talk about one going particular who tell her is the name Alexander Albon for me he was driver of the day is really tough one to get by the way you could argue you could argue strolled potentially all the stuff but or even better but for me Our been water race he had in the tour also up into 4th whilst everyone was on enters he cruises way up the field on the same time as everyone in the title so then the strategy calls between him in the pit will look good. To the point he was trying to pass Hamilton in the midst Sadie's for 3rd at the end of one of the restarts That's how good his race was no mistakes are too and he was trying to pass some of the 3rd the reason Albert finished only 6 and his teammate finished 3rd is because Albon was running so highly that they didn't want to gamble but slicks on his car was a good gamble for kids yet because he had much less to lose and inevitably then drive really well on the sticks as he to make them work. But Albon I think was actually the stronger the 2 drivers today. Are going to give it's well done as well as just changed on the website what the headline is now Alexander Alba no. Gives out and driver going into the start. But you've convinced me I thought the start and drove really well don't get me wrong. Alex who. Has had an outstanding debut season I think and is doing a little bit under the radar has made mistakes but mostly it is a big role and he sort of came in under the radar as the 3rd place finisher formula to everyone's going NORRIS Yeah RUSSELL Yeah and he's done well but for me I think the same as this was that this was his breakthrough race where finally you see wow the guy's fighting for 3rd with Hamilton Yeah he's looked like he's got really good rule talent of course you know one of the rebel team principals to selves and he says he's looking toward that I think of it but I think he's done a really he said he said let me ask you though and I completely agree with Joe you need this was a breakthrough race for him although it's a little bit hard to call it that because for me he stood out quite a lot all year and he's done a fantastic job and this was a great race by him and it's just unfortunate this the final safety car situation with the pit stops. Being made him lose out. So Albin OK the ad could be a driver the day. Red Bull badly crashes out fails to score and how we lining anybody up to take his seat. You think you'll make out the year how bad is this weekend been for him world certainly team of the day has to go to Iran so we can all agree on that can't we Minardi as they basically were based in fans or in Italy very small team OK with Red Bull support but this is their 1st podium in 11 years and only their 2nd podium ever after Sebastian Vettel winning the 2008. Italian Grand Prix but yeah that does bring up an interesting question doesn't it Julian with the future and next year and Red Bull Well guys they actually crashed into the back of Albon to damages from wing and take him out the race. He was also a bit underwhelming. Similarly to Sebastian Vettel really they were fighting through most of the most of the Grand Prix and in the end I think just a slight misjudgment from the probably into the back of Albon ruled him out to drive is doing very well Red Bull driver struggling it's never a comfortable position to be in if team in the day goes to Taurasi say the anti team of the day the worst team of the day award. Quietly and slightly. Can you because I'm right outside their motorhome and all of the team just come out and say he's definitely messed it up big time from both drivers on the team. Was a howler. Team wise it just the one strategy call that went wrong for them yeah I want I want to chuck another another team into the hat and this is a real. No one has got the full force that a right not vintage but on Williams. They annoyed me a bit today in the end. They were had one car ahead of last straw when straw pitiful slicks Now Williams are not going to score points in a genuine race maybe they were just hoping 10 cars drop out but why not charge to a set of slicks with 15 knots to go and gamble just see if they could it also could have been leading the Grand Prix in the Williams with 15 to go and Williams had nothing to lose they're not going to score points they need to do something least choy and go for something a bit adventurous rather than just hope that everyone else drops out for your point if they had I don't know if they definitely would have held on for some points but Russell could have led the Grand Prix if Williams had done as good a job as racing point on the strategy and they had 0 ZILCH to lose correct but the Championship leaders had a well did they have a lot to lose Mercedes I don't really know but they were controlling the race 1st and 2nd where do you think Andrew when it went wrong so a few things went wrong they put on slicks on to Hamilton on laps 28 when he said in his interviews afterwards he didn't think the track was ready for slicks and all this it was partly his responsibility should have said I don't want slicks and he went in to change on to those slicks the lap the lot that crashed right and then he went off at exactly the same place as everyone at the end of his 1st the test as well so that both at exactly the same thing everyone was on slicks at that point though it was a long way with Mavericks No but Lewis was saying that he felt it wasn't the right thing but again that's his response because voters hostile to the call if he doesn't think it then what were they doing enough to start running around OK you can partly blame them for that probably not blame him for that because they were expecting bought ice they got Hamilton Instead he's got a damaged car you know running around for tires and all the rest of it but the key thing was under the next safety car then they didn't hit when they should have done for the right time and enjoying something else went wrong and forgot what it was and they would crash in there and that's a fairly fundamental one. A smack in the wall and Hamilton a at the wall as well and went off to get the no pitching was perplexing yet that was the one Miss Avies or imperious they barely made a mistake all season long but not pitching from 2nd and 3rd when they had almost a free pitstop to go chase the start but they could have also taken Hamilton's 5 2nd penalty under that under the safety car as well which negates that loss sure they want to last on position to Albon. Science as well but why are they not doing now that one I didn't understand was the reason that PETA brings and gave was that we'd have to serve a 5 2nd time penalty so we'd you know we'd lose too much surely behind the safety car is the exact time you serve the time penalty and we've checked the regulations 5 in 10 2nd time penalties can be served behind the safety car with a virtual safety car its only drive through penalties or stop go to penalties that cannot be served so they could just come into the pits OK they might they might have lost out to Carlos sites but then you're on the right tires new tires with a staff and the race leader in your sights OK you got 2 cars to get past your breeze past them easily Yeah and that meant he had to stop under racing conditions and so is telling on the racing conditions and that's when I went and came on the radio after coming back out in 11th place when it wasn't How's it going so bad people are going to sit here we're going to look at that she said copy that and that was even before both drivers had crashed. But also that they even were going to wait a lot too long to tell Hamilton as well as they did for Ari with Vettel. They waited too long to pit bets All right can and waited too long without for a Mayo and that's where Toro Rosso stole it because they pitted their drivers very early and of course last straw in the racing point even earlier than them and that's where they won the big point so I mean the strategy is not narrates for them in general so much to. Really tough to be that there's only a few winners really not calling anything wrong the entire race through genius but yet not not their pet. State to Miss Avies. Let's hear from Lewis Hamilton then speaking after the race it took a long time for him to come out he was already changed and he was really sort of sniffing and holding his throat as he spoke to me it's definitely been one of the worst we can do that I can remember having but. But these we can decide to try and but I can't say just like health is is everything you know and. I felt like I just feel just this weekend I could just feel for all the people who are sick sickly and hospitals are going through difficult times I. Felt even more for them this weekend just knowing now I hope it does feel when you will and and obviously a reminder in this is this is minuscule compared to a lot of people's but it felt like it felt like the world was ending for me for a lot of the time so you know I have a lot of. Sympathy for them and. But otherwise it's really hard to when you do have that to perform at a great level and. I managed to pull over a single but I really really thought that today was going to be tough especially been wet. And I did pretty well up until the 1st stop and then I think it was just a cascade of decisions made you know going into this so that. I wasn't sure it was 6 anyways and then they put them on. And. And then I went off the net to come in then they weren't ready and then it just went on and on no. It was excruciating to watch at times it was fantastic to watch at times I suppose the only solace you can find right now is that there's been a change in the difference between you and the championship it remains at 39 points because he failed to finish the right. It's just hard out there for everyone so. I mean I don't really care where when I was finished I just I was in the lead of the Grand Prix. And I finished pretty much lost so. That's. Stephanie very painful I don't know how I went from. One point. But. It is what it is I could not shut it up I mean I didn't want to but. It was me where he was very curt with everybody and then he got to us and he just he just carried on talking for us about how we're least pain instead it made me wonder if actually he has got something worse than flew it was a very strange interview. Well it was one of yours Jenny what can I say. Yeah. Yeah very very old stuff very odd I think actually it was in the was in the preview podcast we discussed how Milton's arrows and when you know the biggest areas we've seen and I think about it at some point over the weekend Jolene you said in a year and a half of watching. His biggest areas were a lock up in back of a couple of years ago whenever he stuck in his 2 biggest errors in 2 years today yeah he did at the rate under control but going off. Under safety car. Is that is that not crashing under safety car at the point where a crash has happened is that like sort of except we're going to be too hard or that you just have the passage of no choice. When it's a mistake isn't it it's not cool to crash on the. Obviously it's not cool no. It's not safe yeah he didn't mean to crash is a mistake. Clearly going to quick but it's not like it was it was clear dry conditions and he's just been dozing you know maybe he just underestimated his 1st that conflict tires and I think he just clearly underestimated as the rain came down so it's excusable whilst obviously frowned upon to go off and a safety car but. Yeah the next one is just trying to make up for the turn one did exactly as it was bought us got away with that one as well just 2 mistakes and. We have to speak about Ferrari don't we because they have a shocker of a weekend and yes they've kind of managed to draw something back with Vettel finishing 2nd but Charlotte. How do you judge it what do you say about his crash Well I don't you could be too harsh on him because so many other people have made mistakes today so many other people including how Walton went off at that corner where he did but having said that wasn't the 1st time he'd gone off at that corner in fact I think it was the 3rd he did the 1st 2 times he got away with it that time obviously it was terminal and you could see how much. How much that hurt for him because he swore on the radio just as Vettel had done this race last year when he crashed losing a chance of victory not sure whether to chance a victory but he was certainly at that point in a very strong position on better ties than Hamilton and I think he was set to be running 2nd on the track at that point so great loss of the 2 Indy I think this is the thing about the. Album being wrong early. He's got super super talent but he's still making too many mistakes he's made mistakes in qualifying through the 1st half of the. First race for him a Ferrari he could have done without making this mistake I'm sure he'll learn from it too much ability not but those are little question marks over a guy who I don't have any doubt going to be a major star of the next decade indeed the other big loser today was about 3 bottles who was doing an OK job could have closed the gap at the top of the championship down to 21 points but had a pretty deep one crashed the car and that was about a position when he was in a very very good position for his. Championship challenge so that was a that was a big big error. Yes a 39 points is still a different scaling into our next race in Hungary a race that Hamilton absolutely loves. A lot of people will have to bounce back quickly. Yeah I'm sooty of a step at a vet will be hoping that it that it keeps going I Miss Avies of how the pace all weekend so they'll be absolutely fine come hungry and so that you know that will be no problem in the championship battle will continue but bugs I haven't looked at the forecast so hungry we want to leave it all right I love it oh no don't say that because today has been exhausting for everybody but. Fascinating it's what one is all about thinking on your fate and calling strategy driving brilliantly and a team coming together driver and to make a way and that's what was sap and in fact all were able to to day Vettel obviously just coming 2nd starting from 20th Sadie's will go away scratch their heads and try and work out where it all went wrong for them and hungry should be a sterling where they in one week's time will bring you the check in 5 preview on the Thursday evening say make sure you listen out for that thank you so much for joining us this has been an I M G production for B.B.C. Radio 5 Live. And B.B.C. Parasitism was. Yes a very good morning to you B.B.C. Hereford The Early Show is under national warm welcome to Monday the 29th of July choose as 19. The sex. Oh it's. Way. The other 980 S. Because everyone kind of jumped on it when it 1st came out a lot of the you know the critics are people supposed to listen to. 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