It's how they see it and it was the US that walked away not the other way around Mr Morris and we'll also discuss the treatment of NASA means a gallery Ratcliffe the British Iranian woman who's been detained in Iran for 3 years on spying charges she's on hunger strike and her husband Richard Radcliff has also gone 8 days without food. A man in his twenty's has been shot dead in a block of flats in southwest London he was discovered seriously injured when police were called to the building in Feltham last night so far there's been no arrests there's a drive to get more women into engineering today is the 6th International women in engineering day his 5 lives in place the women in engineering society wants to get more women into engineering and get school girls considering it for a Korea only 11 percent of the U.K. Car industry is female Jack you're Landrover which has women in almost 13 percent of its engineering roles is backing the society and helping push for more women to get involved the charity key for life is urging companies to give X. Prisoners a 2nd chance in the job figures show only 17 percent of prisoners get back into work once they've been released the Ministry of Justice says Work can stop refunding by a 3rd Truman Ward is a former prisoner states Montana like Baron my life. Hung brightness cycle. 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Like him people to understand and to are a fighter jets of a school did a plane back to Stansted Airport because of his street disruption a disruptive passenger Police say a 25 year old woman has been arrested on suspicion of assault and endangering an aircraft that is the 5 Live news now show the sport the West Indies fell just short of their victory target of 292 in a German attic finale to their World Cup match against New Zealand at Old Trafford broth wait smashed $101.00 to take the Windies to within 5 runs of the New Zealand total before being caught on the boundary that result returns New Zealand to the top of the table India captain Virat Kohli meanwhile admits his side had to show character to earn their 11 run victory over Afghanistan in Southampton India are back up to 3rd one place above England at the Women's Football World Cup England know if they can beat Cameroon in their. 16 match on Sunday afternoon they'll face Norway in the quarter finals Norway beat Australia on penalties in nice Germany are also into the last 8 after a 3 nil win over Nigeria and after reaching the final of the doubles the Queen's with his partner Philip Lopez Andy Murray says his hip feels fine it's the 1st tournament Murray's played since having surgery in January the pair will face Britain's Joe solve on the American Rajiv ROM in the final this is B.B.C. Radio 5 Live on digital B.B.C. Sound. And the 5 most areas. Will build from the West with gradually moving into southern and western areas sometimes heavy and thundery scattered scattered showers I should say for Scotland highs in London of 25 degrees. More mornings. Do something a bit like this place is the one. I was never really playing yourself position I was always battling against myself. In the world. Of the. Sunday session this morning and. This is. The program. To see if we can cool things down the. Marathon runner has just completed the midnight sun. No pain no gain. In the women's World Cup was the tournament on the business side of things. Where there's a greedy bank scandal. Well you'd expect that New Zealand would be their questions about who the next prime minister my be and also there's an Argentinian rugby shock here in New Zealand an Argentinian rugby shot could the R.G.S. Argentinians really say cause the All Blacks not sure about the final later on not to talk about Romney's Eland 1st. Foreign mill a Foreign Office Minister Andrew Marson arrives in Iran this morning amid rising tensions in the Gulf the Foreign Office says the trip is part of ongoing diplomatic dialogue with the Iranians over the 2015 nuclear deal adding that he'll call for urgent deescalation Modo to Christian codes Olrik said is an associate fellow for the Middle East and North Africa Program at Chatham House I asked him what we know about the sanctions that Donald Trump said he's going to impose on Iran in a bid to prevent the country obtaining nuclear weapons Well I think as with everything at the top administration does we know much more in terms of rhetoric that and some of the concrete sanctions he's going to impose he's announced his going to in person but I think we're still waiting to head to find it detail and I think a people of the same tightening up loopholes increasing perhaps targeted sanctions on Iranian entities individuals and trying to once again we impose economic news that he believes got Iran to the negotiating table between 20102012 of course there are sanctions were imposed in concert with the European Union the United Nations as well as us it would be difficult to see if President Trump can regain international support to impose that level of international sanctions on Iran that's her Obama managed 8 years ago perhaps a more precise. Metaphor Rob news should be carried in a sick it's a classic our existing situation this is you know if you want to come correct this will make you great again and if you don't we'll make you poor again Well yes and I think the structure of the Iranians who are the recipients of this carrot mistake it's also the U.S. Partners in the Gulf and even to some extent members of jumpstarted ministration who have very different position with spears of Iran and I think many people are blindsided in Washington and the regional capitals in the Gulf by the decision to call off the strikes on Thursday evening so I think President Trump is in classic form playing a game of guess and 2nd guess among all concerns are and I would be surprised if he had a coherent strategy or any notion of what he wants to achieve if he could in the should say rather than his you know his secretary of state defense secretary Well of course there's no permanent defense sector to burn with it hasn't been for 6 months almost and he just names a new acting defense secretary Wednesday but the fact that the struction go ahead does I think show that President Trump still has the final say because sex your state might compare with national security advisor John Bolton was story in favor of strikes so I think they were probably Waters' appointed and some of the others and administration from what we having it was the Cent Com commander your Central Command who urged caution perhaps mindful of the the plough back against U.S. Military assets in the Gulf and the fact that any strike would go could easily escalate into a wider conflict ration that would be very difficult to control. The present blood inside everybody I'm possibly even amongst us through forces whose surprised by this. Deal some so with Iraq move might a U.S. Deal look like the U.S. Deal with Iran would be wrong go through well again Trump of course walked away from the joint comprehensive plan of action the nuclear deal that Obama and the P 5 plus one negotiated painstakingly over 2 years with the Iranians. I mean I think deep down Trump wants to somehow negotiate a better deal than the one he inherited from Burma the difficulty is a Trump doesn't have anything like international consensus for such a deal particularly after unilaterally walking away for the previous one when there were no grounds to do so and be there. Why would the Iranians trust us to ministration a 2nd time when they went to the negotiating table in good faith at least how they see it and it was the U.S. That walked away not the other way around so I think those 2 facts will make it extremely difficult for the president to come up with anything that resembles a workable deal and the I did the U.S. As a U.K. Foreign minister Foreign Office Minister Andrew Burson is due to fly to Iran to kind of supply is cool things down with have any impact do you think I've interim no Washington. Well I think the more important meeting is the one that will be held in Japan at the end of next week when the G 20 mates and of course the Japanese have been a trusted go between trusted by birth Iranians and the United States and she's there are there has had good relations with both leaderships in fact he was in Iran just last week when the tanks were attacked so I think from an international point of year the G 20 will be the venue for serious negotiation and discussion from a U.K. Perspective it can help to try and yes collate and of course week a perspective there are other pressing issues are sent your Hugh K.-Rod relations anyway such as now snoozing going back with indeed the smell is the overriding question here is really any further away from a military action by the United States and Iran and we were at the beginning of the way well to be honest I think any President Trump there is that and he's been serve and protect people and volatile that I think even his closest partners and in fact probably his closest colleagues don't know the answer to that would do to Christian codes. The rigs in the Chatham House let's go to the latest now from New Zealand week's news from there with Colin Peacock Radio New Zealand calling Good morning I didn't I didn't realise it was any such thing as a greedy bank boss in New Zealand on earth everybody was like you know peace and love. Not quite not quite when it comes to those those business executives have been a couple of them in the news actually lately I know you've had your own problems in the U.K. With with greedy bank bosses getting huge bonuses while the banks are doing so well but here in New Zealand we don't have a track record of the so much but the banks do make enormous profits by local standards and they're all the major ones are actually basically branch offices of Australian ones and it was an Australian called David His go who was in charge of the A.N.C. That stray the New Zealand Bank One of the very biggest in America indeed I myself am a customer and it was revealed recently that it actually quit in strange circumstances and what he did the media were told he'd been unwell for a while that it was nothing serious but he wasn't at work but then it emerged that he basically been essentially stood down and then resigned of his own free will probably before he was pushed because he was claimant absolutely enormous expenses an addition to his celery which was the biggest of any C.E.O. In this country $3000000.00 New Zealand dollars about $1500000.00 quid which might not sound tremendous for top executive pay and you Cajuns But in New Zealand terms it's huge but he was claiming in his years in charge of the bank an additional 441000 dollars each year in non-executive benefits things like car parking chauffeur driven travel. And even some $50000.00 to store his wine in his dimension and this was being paid for by the banks customers. Yes indeed it was in the thing is that the guy who signed off on it all has only added to the controversy here because you can charge a chair of the A.N.C. Bankers our former Prime Minister John Key He was prime minister up until about 2016 when he suddenly quit when he was in charge after winning 3 elections so it's all looking a bit iffy and then it's a merged about 2 or 3 days after the strange and murky resignation of David his go that John Key even sold David has to go his own luxury beach house which is known to be in the many millions of dollars up north of all Clint So a nice little the old being done there between 2 blokes clearly in the top one percent of musical and wage earners and even after they had it got worse when it emerged that the bank itself had bought a house for the his go family some $7000000.00 So one of New Zealand's most expensive homes anywhere the bank bought the house and then sold it to David his goes wife it well below the market value and again all this being signed off by a board that looks like they didn't really have a handle on what was going on because of all these expenses far far outweigh anything that any chief executive of that bank or indeed any bank you Zealand has ever had from their employers and this big Q lation here that it's possible that the timing of this is because the bank itself is in a bit of trouble and John Key and his fellow governors because they've been punished by a simple bank for not having enough money in reserve to cover some of the lending was very tightly monitored by the Reserve Bank So one theory is that the reserve nation which was going to have to happen at some point was actually put out at a time when it took up the heat off the rest of the board but the media is on to this now and John Key has some questions to answer well here with all this talk about a fat cat you make it sound as if the New Zealand and Britain have a lot in common and not least when you talk about John Key there and the issues of. Who the next prime minister of New Zealand is you know where we're going through that kind of conversation I think a lot of people have an idea who the next prime minister of the U.K. Might be the people in New Zealand have no idea who the next year Prime Minister might be and if there are they considered ministers a vacancy Well not quite the way they will be if I couldn't they conceive almost certainly very soon as leading John Kerry is former party the National Party basically a vision of the Tories now they are not in power at the moment it's the Labor Party led by just under a do news a bit of a global celebrity right now but the current leader of the National Party is really not in good shape and it's very likely he'll be rolled at some point soon and again this involves John Key the former leader of the party he's also in addition to being the chair of the bank he's also a director in New Zealand a national airline now after 7 years and Chad the chief executive all the New Zealand Christopher Luxon suddenly resigned this week so it was being put to John Key to lose to chief executives your companies as a is that a coincidence or is it is it kill us but he quit and said look I'm very interested in politics now for some time people have been talking about him he's very connected to people in the national party and people are joining the dots here because John Key himself moved from business and finance and banking into politics in 2005 and within 3 years he'd taken over the national party leadership from another struggling leader and then become prime minister at the next election when the government changed so the media here have been rushing to conclusions in jumping to the the conclusion that basically encouraged by John K. Christopher locks in his quit that top job at the airline and is now being fast tracked through as a potential leader of the National Party and will have a career that mirrors John Key's own Korea but this is rubbing some people up the wrong way because well the media are very excited by the story and we're here as a politician and Whiting that really could cut through I mean he's got no politike . Trick record a whole we have no idea what the public would make of him he's never been put to the test so for people to be saying he has and it's prime minister in one or 2 elections time kind of smacks of arrogance but they've done it once before fast breaking junkie into the job and these days you know trickles in politics don't seem to matter to you that is people like Trump can come through from anywhere and win elections in the biggest countries in the world so it is possible he could be a political player but the SES the next prime minister really is jumping the gun there really is no difference between our 2 countries newsies the United Kingdom is a exect when it comes to rugby you law obviously play a supreme form of rugby through your blogs and we play catch up but the Argentinians don't jibe with your blokes do not generally that had a couple of close test but I don't think they've ever beaten the All Blacks but the the Annual the biggest professional southern hemisphere tournament is the Super Rugby tournament that's got the best sides from New Zealand Australia and said Africa and at They've been playing that for about 2025 years but in recent years the tried to spice it up a bit they brought in a Japanese side and the yeah Gladys from Tina and the Japanese son was Haven't been up to much and they've actually been culled from the competition for next year but this year they go out as have been taking teams that come on the long flight over to Argentina and beating them and their home page but they've really gone one further They've got to the knockout rounds this this year and this weekend they're playing the Chiefs the side from the Waikato in New Zealand one of New Zealand's very best sides in the in the top 2 or 3 and a lot of people because it was night time out time it didn't actually bother watching it they just assume that when it got to the the pointy end of the competition that the Chiefs would up the game and and see off the roadways even that wasn. And Tina but no the yeah go out is turned over the Chiefs close match just 5 points in it and they held on a gritty defensive display. Not not going to to watch but a really really then map when so they now go into the semifinals against an Australian side in the final rounds of this competition so all those New Zealand rugby fans a thought but a foregone conclusion won't bother staying up to watch that got a huge shock in the morning and yeah this is an absolute highlight for me in rugby and some much needed kind of new blood in the later stages of a competition that it got really really predictable the shock notwithstanding what do people make of this and have people be reacting well they wondering what the hell went wrong because they always assume that these New Zealand sides have struck such strength and depth and then they fond of saying it's not a 15 man game anymore it's a 22 men game because all these changes they make these strategic substitutions with their you know 2025 minutes to go they're pretty much all these New Zealand sides have top grade international quality players to come on in just about any position so you often see if one team ups the game against them and that's tight going into the final stages that absolutely monster players come off the bench and steamroll the tiring opposition and take them over the line if it's ever looking like it might be close but no the Jaeger obvious from Argentina won the hearts and minds of the neutral by standing firm turning them over and they go into the semifinals against I think it's the Brumbies from Australia the New South Wales side so you know we could we could actually see an Argentinian side in the final and that would be a huge story and that fun almost certainly would be here in New Zealand so if they could get there and turn over team on New Zealand soil that really would be something. Thinking of Goliath and you know more go with this thing in the stone anyway The happens every now and then Collins would have Persia comb FICO the news from New Zealand Now last night you might remember we took you to trauma in the far north of Norway where thousands of runners from all over the world were preparing for a night race it's called the Midnight Sun marathon. Because there's daylight 247 at this time of the year above the Arctic Circle it's midsummer and all of that the race marks. The anniversary this weekend well 5 Live 7 clag to part with him just before we came on and tonight. Just about a live look like a look rather like you've been kicked out and wrapped in tinfoil and it's very cold that was what was that was the hardest the hardest off my wrist and I was on without any shot over don't actually so yeah but I made it well you know we made it home for you through. Through Yeah yeah. And yeah you could you lose to the full marathon doing today I don't think not find it was just it was very self actually after about. Probably after about 5 or 6 miles I think the energy just went and I just felt my legs were really really have. An almost a corset described is primarily slight It was it was undulating through the through the whole course and I think. For me I think so because some parts of it you're running in there's there's pockets of support and support really go but there are times when you're running through you know a good couple of miles and it's not not many people around and it's you know the scenery you probably normally see on the on a good days just being covered in clouds. In the caves as they say and just about managed. To take myself out so at some I'm just glad to finish it's one of one of those kind of races so yeah it was it was quite something quite something to some of the conditions a little understand a lot of rain Yeah I mean it's been raining constantly Syrians must be running constant constantly since yesterday it's started to get really heavy today it's orders 67 o'clock and I think to be honest that one part of it is as well is I'm just not used to playing at midnight Funnily enough I guess not many people are. Actually managing when. You know. I'm a creature of habit having a routine when it comes to race day you know practice at this entire human there. And then you know allowing time to. Recover but today it was just really hard to judge when. You know when to rest and once a week and I think I probably misjudged it a little bit but you know I'll go around it yeah it's I think that's the main thing it's not your actual midnight it's not lunch. Black you know this is well in the land of the midnight sun well. Well exactly yes yeah it's quite you know it's really surreal actually just sort of you know. It was just a moment by what's there when I just got to look I've got a running watch it because you know your youth. I'm going to be running slower and how long you last mile wasn't things I'd say don't press the button just there just to check it was almost like you know how to pinch yourself to say what time is it because it is like you said that looks and it sounds you know half past midnight and it's really it's it's really rather surreal you know so yeah it's. An experience like no other and I just thought it was one thing that was very nice to give you a nice and I thought right be nice or do some nice not right you know I think it might go back for it I want to do as well so. You can also say no excuses. You did. I'm not going to. Reconvene on that issue. Which you will come I mean you have the people running. From Well I think I'm not sure about the exacts Blitz I would say the majority were doing a half actually. Where the apartment where I made my friend is. We saw the recent run is going to cost really want to know we're in sort of this it would there were much you know Center. You know sort of box if you like of runners whereas with a half Marson it was that there was just you could you could tell it was just a lot you know a big number of. Of people running so I'm not sure what the split is but it's probably something like that I guess it would be something like 70 percent of the dollars and 30 percent of the full market rather amusing that actually because. On the way there was shopping just sort of locals know saying yeah it's a great it's a funny or because he said I think they're sort of thinking about once in the last 12 years there has been sort of the big nights of March that it's just it's you bitch pretty much similar to this most years actually so. There was a bit of that about you know you know when you're mentally 10 years sex or expecting Oh it's going to be sunny and all this kind of stuff like that it's in so to be ready then you can certainly it can change you know change the. Remember in terms of how you approach the race when it's not quite as pleasant conditions as you as you might have been hoping for so that was something like maybe lost a little bit of the local civic I do it's they were finding it rather amusing that this does not often and the press conditions that is to come are you. Just legs like all over hips quads. Top off is OK actually it's just yeah yeah. Pretty much every single bit of me legs. Is in pain I think and I actually have a feeling around the sort of just above the knee I think it's I think. This sort of ups and downs you know. It's sort of if I check the elevation then it's probably a bit more than I would normally if you know if I'm feeling and in those sort of muscles the ones that go kind of up and down if you like climbing. To the kind of. Pain as you're going through. Pain stuff. No not from the very beginning but probably from a full 5 miles because. Sort of near the front and sometimes in a race you can see if you start at the front you can get carried along in a Cox It's faster than you would normally run so yeah if you get. Done this once before and you're going to get along and I have to I thought my watch was wrong because I look down and it's at 7 minutes 20 seconds for a mile and more trust that I would ever run even if I was running flat out book clearly I was just getting carried along in the park and so I did it a couple of miles like not and then I had to kind of tell myself in my head OK Slow down you can't go this fast so I slowed down so I sort of 9 minutes of my leg that it was after about 6 miles just for the halfway point and the legs just started to feel heavy and I figured out it was it was a bit of a slog and that it. Was just this gradual incline that's all went on for quite a while for a couple of miles and then it got to about 6 miles so my between Miles and 11 that was very it was the most. Basic at the point which I'm thinking I don't know how to keep this up for the much longer frankly. Through an incline. So absolutely yes you know you've got to you've got to think to yourself or a put it that way. It's one of those things when you know it's an it's not but you know in a couple of days time I'll probably be looking for the you know for the next race to do and you know you forget it you get rose tinted glasses you forget about all of the. Electorate you know a lot of one of my incident nights being in this beautiful country it was. You have run a marathon it's been right you know I'm going to. Do no news when I. Don't you just write about to be someone how does someone who's older golfer cited it it's 8 miles that said I said believe in that Brock it's fake. It was. Great Authority so. What time did you do this and in. 2 hours in 10 minutes it's the slowest of it don't actually I mean the fastest of everyone is about one hour and 60 so probably tells you how much more difficult this was than you know I knew any of the others had done so yes I was in time but it's again it's one of those on the one hand it's not was you know on paper I'd say well I'm not very happy with the time but actually in practice it was so hard for me anyway you know I'm just glad to finish I'm still standing here in a few days so you know. Wear off and also have this little medal around my neck which all. Cherish some kind of this parish having done the midnight marathon run out to me just will do a run up of the Women's World Cup version has got the latest 5 headlines as Putin. On digital B.B.C. Said Small Street. Sees C.B.C. Radio you find. 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Let's focus on England Cameroon then in action and hoping to join Germany in the quarterfinals That's tomorrow here in Valencia will have a 430 kickoff bring the whole game here before later in the day we'll have the France Brazil match that to caucus for you on 5 live Sport Cameroon I've been speaking in the last couple of hours that coach says that the job in general didn't really show in the way for this Cameron side used to be the fitness coach with Cameron says England have many strengths but a couple of weaknesses we hope to play on those weaknesses tomorrow he was then asked if he could list though the weaknesses says we don't need to list them they were written down in my head and then he went on to talk about Phil Neville being a household name he made to stream we are addicted to football in Cameron said the coach but he's not on the pitch he's on the sidelines there's real belief Lacy in this Cameron same that they can not only take England on a match them but they can find a way to beat them yeah I watched Netherlands in Valencia and and you know that the full of confidence and not might not quite be as good as the Netherlands as good as England but I think their strength is their own predictability they don't particularly know what they're going to do next and so that makes it very difficult for the opposition to work out what we're going to do next so that will be the bit the England will find the most difficult when when the facing camera because usually you look at the palace. Played every year opposition and and see what they do in particular situations and then adapt your game plan to suit but you know like I say Cameroon rely on the pace of the the wingers on getting calls loads of issues for the for the Netherlands she liked to be booed the crowd on the back but she loved it she was rolling about all over the place so they will they will pose different sort of problems in England if a so far but the not to be discounted I don't think if you look at the results obviously Cameroon beat New Zealand England failed pretty miserably against New Zealand in the build up to it so if you look at if I was Cameroon now be taking a lot of positives from not only their result and getting through in 3rd place position but the fact the New Zealand in some ways out. Completely out did not friendly I'm sure they will of look back at the video from mats and look at how they could exploit England they've shown some fundamental issues I believe through the middle Japan we were I think fortunate Japan didn't put a goal past as in the last game so I can see where the cameras source data coming from from Cameroon belief where that is generated from. They've got nothing to lose that they've not exceeded their expectations they would have wanted desperately kind of ice Scotland to get through to this. To this last 16 stage but beyond that you know is is beyond their expectations so if we look at the England team that performed in the group stages do you see who you are looking to make changes heading into Cameroon based on what we've seen in the groups I think you've had good performances from from the majority of the squad played but at some point you need to become settled and I'm talking goalkeeper to send a halves fullbacks and then maybe the City midfielder depend on how we do play you know the rest of the team the what I would call the variables of the team that can change that when you the game in the constant so important the 4 in the in the goalkeeper they're so important to get those right because they'll stop you from losing and then. Rest of him can make ensure that you win the game you know we can't really 2nd guess what Phil Neville is going to pick as a team and that's that's probably a positive thing so we're all sort of you know look at his name in our 11 and it's pretty obvious when you know and same ball perhaps he should be playing she should be playing and a do think the most important thing in tone and situations is keeping the subs happy you know making sure the subs hours positives of as possible and it's something that Jill Scott I spoke to Jill Scott about and I think that's what worked in 2015 that it was a positive environment Stephanie that that squad ethic that Phil never was spoken about Vicki Sparks has been up at his press conference Vicki of course will be commentating on the game for some 5 live Sport was he in their food joviality that we've expected from Phil Neville so far in this tournament how was he yes he was it was a very relaxed press conference or conference it went on for a long time is how happy for journalists to keep asking questions and really digging into what they say match the England against Cameroon is going to be like he has a fairly fit squads to choose from so there will be some big decisions weren't there a lot of Tony Dugan made perhaps enemy Jodi Taylor just a couple of the choices that never is going to have to make what about the changes then Lucy you said keep the core Tony Dugan in there Vicki said then that Tony Duckett That's the question that's been asked Is that a change that you would make Lucy probably yeah but although what I like I'm going to sit completely on the fence because I really don't like what Beth made has to offer I think it a 100 percent fit to own a dog and perhaps whether she is at that level at the moment I'm not sure I think you can change Ellen White because you know once you've got a goal scorer with her eye in and you keep them there just like Jodie Taylor really I know what I mean Windows Yeah but I think you know go get serious now then serious questions are asked so you know that that's the way isn't it's when you get to the stage in the competition it might just be one or 2 chances that you get so you need the player on the pitch who you know for a fact is. Enough to fall I think Betemit is been trick in this you know who's almost faithful really the only dog in that picture but injury and she got the chance to start arguably ahead of Tony Dugan on that left in the 11 position I feel that Tony Duggan when she played in the last game with Demi Stokes behind uphill didn't really kind of shower cause in some ways in the demo so it's an overall lot didn't join in didn't really kind of provide an option too many times for Toni Duggan and I felt like Tony went off the pitch very frustrated. She kind of looked for a straight edge was kind of almost grinning with through gritted teeth and in some ways I feel like Tony will be still fresh from the performance with Alex Greenwood behind me is as proved herself as the star in LA but for England will have a kind of better chance of proving her up. On the subject of Tony Doug and she was all missed after the last game wasn't she I think Gary fence off. The stage as you feel like you felt come from the pitch and I didn't I didn't did I so sure want to put that one behind Yeah absolutely I mean he's had a brilliant domestic season 15 goals for Barcelona this season they finished runners up in the league of weeks the Champions League Final as well and I think that would just be the frustrating thing they've such the frustrating thing for her that she just picked up this injury at the wrong time and that was one of those positions Paris Dugan a mate you would have expected as she was saying if they were 100 percent fit that opening game would have been dug in Paris but Tony Dugan wasn't fit better made came in and she has shown so much better made particularly 2090 for England had a very good she believes Kompas well and Phil Neville said before the World Cup She wasn't just knocking on the starting line up till she was aging her way and so I did and so I think I think that's a good point as well about the differences between the way the ice cream would play that green would often bet made a little bit more down that left hand so I'd bet but you have to. Perform in its performance at this World Cup you would take better made parts Tony Dugan we know how good she is and she will hope to be given that. This is D.C. Sidelines OK let's hear from the manager Phil Neville what has been speaking head of the Cameroon Yeah the mood being God we recovered well. The day after the game we give the players a day off it was a high emotional physical game again from was really nice and it was a nice time for them to switch off we knew that but now it's not about the training it's about getting them all fresh we've got every player fit in available for selection which is which is a massive plus for us we train today we've always come up north where we like to be and the players have got steel in their eyes and you know we're all excited about tomorrow night's game the games are in thrall and you know when when we started the World Cup was up period of 10 days before and the build up where you think West enjoy the build up the place France but now actually any place you go to you just want the games to complete come faster and the games will now it's a 530 kickoff it's not a long day tomorrow we're up breakfast and out of say steel in the eyes from your players will that be one of the biggest challenges from Cameroon as well their team spirit and of course their physicality Yeah I think I think you've the physicality is obviously. A key a key for them their unpredictability is good but you know it always it always makes me laugh when people say a team plays with Get Great Spirit like Argentina and Cameroon if we're be if we're beaten found lacking in that area then then I've not done my job right you know our spirit our togetherness should be equally is as strong as Cameron's and you just hope that our attitudes and our concentration and more importantly our discipline is good as well and if that is the case then then the result will look after itself does Team selection pose it's never a welcome headache is it but you know that perspective of a welcome headache there are a couple of positions in particular. Where there are 2 play is fighting for one spot and both players will perhaps expect to start and you've got to make that call Yeah people say oh it's a nice problem to have I don't think it is a nice problem to have I think ever invented die is a liar because you know we've got 2 players for every position some 3 you think of Rachel Dale you complain 3 or 4 different positions and wants to play in 3 or 4 different positions sole selection is really difficult the nice thing is that it's a nice problem to have in terms of we've got everybody fit well in form and they're all wanting to play and I know I can pick any team tomorrow night and I know that they'll go out there and perform like they've done in the last 3 games if Jill Scott plays she will become England's Mais kept playing at a senior men's or women's overtaking that record held by Peter she'll send one incredible achievement that would be from how I am War a big player she. Amazing amazing player an amazing person she will break that record. Without a shadow of a doubt. Because she's fit enough to go to the next well call you know soul so that record will probably not be beat for a long long time. We're really fortunate I'm really fortunate we've we've got Jill Scott will be the most capped player of all time and far Williams is the most got the most caps of any international player male and female so it Scholz that type of player is still solve all you will in the game you know it with the World Cup but our influence is still vital within the cell within the England central contract system until Scott's performances out say for the last 56 games she's probably been our most outstanding player and she's she's showing she's showing in the form that we know she can she doesn't want rest in she doesn't need any special privileges and she's the most popular player in the squad because of our attitude to work in Iraq to to to off on ship it to my eyes is probably the probably what a lioness stands for final question from a. It has become a big big talking point in this World Cup V.A.R. Wanted to ask specifically about his decision for the rest of the tournament not to show yellow cards to go in she towns for encroachments a surprise I've got you know it's not something I really want to get involved in but I've got to say I was surprised surprised when I saw the Premier League weren't taken at the same rules as what we are adhering to in the World Cup as well bore you know I think after the tournament we probably have to take stock of where football is going you know it's still still got to be real it's still got to be still got to be fair for every player on that pitch and the supporters watch and it's got to be fair for as well so I think I'm sure feed for after that with the World Cup I've got major to decisions to make and they'll probably look themselves in the mirror and thought probably we should have done some things a little bit different that's the disappointment but it's probably a conversation for after the World Cup when when we look back and think you know that work that didn't work I think they I was a fantastic thing we have to support the rules and the regulations that we've been told to adhere to and that's all I've said to my players you can like it you can you can hate it but ultimately the rules are the rules and we've just got to stick by. England's most capped player at this World Cup is carrying CARNEY And she's been having a chat with our most cats RACHAEL BROWN Phineas Khan he's been in every major tournament since she made her debut at the Euros in 2005 how she finding the swim of enjoyed it of a seem more enjoyable when you're you get the winds to 3 a 3 for us is is a great start but yeah I think the hosts have done a really good job the media coverage has been fantastic support being great and the you know the stadiums about fabulous So it's been a good tournament so far so how was nice compared to China and. You know during the. Other ones in between Yeah I mean nice is beautiful We'll stay in a fantastic hotel the weather is unbelievable I mean. I'm 3 doors in this current hotel I'm 3 doors down from Serena Williams So it's not too shabby So yes I you know for the game watching Serena play warming up going in the gym and then training next to God This Williams. It was and that's why I went down and put it on my Instagram was like get inspired and just kind of watching what she had ahead of Wimbledon and she's the most iconic female athlete out there at the moment and just to watch so hotels are not too shabby said very different from from China and you know. All the experiences that we've had you know yourself the there are amazing even when sometimes it's tough in different countries that sometimes is what makes what makes a tournament special so of a mover and shaker in women's sports talk about Serena Williams But you know you are one of those role models now along with you know a lot of the you know the England team absolutely the vibe in Nice I think to be quite rely on both of those things reflects where you are as a squad where women's football is. You know kind of the states you have now as female footballers and also the expectations of what the squad is here in this world cope do you feel in live an embodied as a collective different kind of feel we haven't. Seen and felt the shift to that yet is from from whole more so it is changing and we are aware that we're role models and we are looked upon and. You know but that's something that we've all aspired to that we've all wanted and we've wanted it for years and years and so it's not to be taken lightly and lot of what we said to each that we do have a responsibility I'm not saying that because you will hear you know you guys so much and it's our responsibility to continue to pass on like our job is easy like Times. Or that. People were dying for to give us the option is that they've given us now so we can take that for granted and we are fully aware that we are role models and we are to inspire the next generation and keep that spiral go and make sure that women's what was in the right direction that we stay humble that we stay grounded even when it does it is going to rock and it is going to spiral it is important to stay grounded and stand for what we 1st started for and women. As making progress which is like unbelievable and feel really proud to be a part of our expectations or is and with You see I like the kind of iconic almost gatherin post much with Phil Neville in the middle and I also got. A little giggles of from that kind of that sometimes it's kind of has a different vibe to what's he brought as galvanized his team and there's shifted that expectation I think you just books his own experience you know he's been winning teams. You know we started he's been a Serb he gets a hole is a footballer and I think. That's something that you can always recognize who is a player is that probably every experience that we've been through he's felt as a player so he can kind of get it so whether you've started out a world away or been a sore or not played any Mini or not even been selected has been a part of that and he's experienced that and is a really sensitive guy and he always makes the makes you feel like you're a person 1st and I think that's really call and the group seems to like him and responds well to him when I 1st met him I was just surprised at how nice he was and knowing me for saying that yeah I was surprised about that because you think someone who's won everything Been there done it but he just brings that humble and background in to us as well so humans 1st 100 percent him and 1st and he's very big on standards how you speak to people I speak to each other he's really really big on that respect that we have for one another and to everyone that we come into contact with is to conduct yourself with pure class to think that kind of resembles them the much the United Way how he's been brought into think that that's helped with looking from the outside in this blog chop and change and start love and but I'm gettin it seems like you guys are very comfortable with that do you think that that level of respect to cross the group is a cult Yeah because like yesterday for example the euro book is the youngest player is goalkeeper and she's here if experience but for me she's she's just as important she is as important as played yesterday I think he really makes especially me. Everyone is really important and I think when someone comes in and it's like yesterday when least I'm for consequences that moment was. Was unbelievable and she hasn't played one minute yet and you go you do it for them they want to get on that pitch just as much as you but they're straight up to you and given you. Well it is when it really should be over and we were because while doing so you never step on the pitch but she's working hard every day and transmit and it's just that's the that's what I like about this group is that hope and it continues that we always put each over 1st before ourselves and that's really difficult in a team of Vironment sometimes do you think that's been a sole change you know if you look at a 2 percent. Difference from bronze to gold as it was do you think that that could be kind of the bunch of ego to need everybody and everyone's going to have them moment and that's why you're in the team and I hope that's a difference that gets us from bronze to gold so we'll just have to wait and say that environments been the most powerful thing to think I think so and I think the football is well I think playing good football and trying to keep the ball moving and playing on the floor that's been good as well and I think it suits the team so I just hope we keep going we nominate in that tournament about momentum and having a bit of luck and hopefully that continues and I think the next 2 games are going to be the biggest ones well 1st of all let's get let's get this one sorted one game a time Carol Yeah exactly and the thing Kenai once we we do that hopefully will keep Karen Carney with RACHAEL BROWN for a couple of days ago but one game at a time when you get to the knockout stages. Is this is Karma's you've seen Karen this at this moment you know going from from what's been the groups where you can if they haven't they 100 percent but where you can almost afford a slip up to now heading into the knockouts Yeah just to there's no sign of complacency I don't think in any of those games they just weren't didn't the end product they'd be wasn't wasn't there for the full 90 minutes the end product was 3 points for each of those games but they know they can play better but absolutely Carney's pretty unflappable. D.C. 30 today seemed Germany big Nigeria 3 nil Germany will now play in the Sweden or Canada or in the quarterfinals Lucie is this pretty much as expected when we look at the last 16 and we Germany going through so far yeah I think so I mean no obviously have not commented on Germany Nigeria today didn't really have to get out of 2nd or 3rd gear Germany Nigeria. Glimpses but I don't think Germany of come up against a side that's causing problems I don't I'm not so sure about that sent our partnership will put the pressure for Germany against better opposition so we'll see what happens in the quarterfinals. They've given a bit of a lie got where they were the early controversy the 2 goals really the 1st one that went to be a after offside What did you make of that one cost me being a goalkeeper I might have a different point of view yeah I think you know to interfere with player wise you know right in front of the goalkeeper Having said that the consistency in this tournament I expected that to not be given offside because of the all the complications the most memorable recently Kalin Lloyd. You know she was she was in an offside position it wasn't given offside but you know we would expect that to and Casey Stoney and Laura Bassett have to defend as do will mourn in about that not being given offside but you know in terms of the the tournament and what's happened so far I did not surprise me that the goal was given at least they've got consistency because for me is as yet top a fantastic had put the goalkeeper for Nigeria had to literally push off the attacker he was in the offending position he was interfering with play and had to take a position so you could see the ball to the right of the defender and it was clearly interference so maybe it's consistent but it's consistently wrong in my Yeah you know I agree with you Richard I completely agree with you as a as a goalkeeper it made it difficult you know yes she was interfering with play she wasn't stood on the goalkeeper stills but she was in a position where like you say the goalkeeper gave more of the goal to pop the pop to a much so you know if we were if we were watching that as a normal game we'd say it was offside but having watch what's gone on so far in this tournament that that doesn't surprise me it was given the goals given to morrow to morrow we'll be back tomorrow I could have burst into song them but I know how much producer Chris likes that so I won't Will England have made it through to the quarter finals We'll have that game in full on 5 Live Sports a full 30 kickoff also. 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