And later a look back at the issue around campaigns like bring back our girls. Where are they now . And did they actually lead to meaningful change . Digital producer and cohost is here, he is bringing in all of our feed pack, whenever we talk about these border check points whether they are at the poshedder, its always divided. S and i think some of that depends on geography. Extremely devicive. Everyone is getting stopped now, 125 miles south of new york. I guess you can argue no one is discriminating. Some would say that, others would disagree, in our community, this is happening at all the borders up a the way in the north, not just a southern issue. This might be a good thing why would this be a problem . There has to be check points especially when you are closer to border areas fungny how now everything is an issue. It is standard procedure to show your passport, but how would you feel if you were asked to prove your citizenship within the United States. There are about 71 check points that are several miles from the border, and in some cases they are even up to 100 miles away. The Border Patrol says they are set up for safety, reducing potential terrorist to easily travel away from the border. But some americans who frequently encounter these say it infringes on their rights. They postthemselves on youtube declining to answer any questions. Thats my business. Well, it is our business to ask, are you a citizen or not . You can ask thats fine. And uh you have to answer. Well, i dont have to answer you, because i have a right as an american. Sir, go ahead and pull over there behind that other vehicle. No thanks. The officer did eventually let him pass there, but exchanges like this raise the question of the legality of these check points. And what broader impact they are having on communities. Is the government overstepping its authority, or are measures like these necessary for safety and National Security . With us from the austin texas is mario loyola, a constitutional lawyer and contributing editor the the national review. From tucson, arizona, a border litigation attorney for the American Civil Liberties union of arizona, he works on cases relating to civil and human rights violations. And also out of tucson, he says he has been stopped more than 300 times and frequently, films his check point refusals, his channel has gotten close to 2 million views. Thank you for joining us, you say you have been stopped more than 300 times why . And over what period of time. Sure. Well, the Border Patrol first set up a check point along a rout that i frequent to our remote site. Near mile marker 146. 5, which is just a few miles outside of 3 points arizona. What is interesting about this check point, is that it is set up along the secondary rout, that runs east to west. It never intersects the border and my remote work site doesnt take me to the border, in fact, i am about how miles away, but since 2008, i have had to go through this check point on the order of about 50 to 60 times every year. That puts me through 300 stops back in 2008. All right, i want to play a clip you provided to us about refusing to comply with the agents questions. Am i being detained answer the question . You have not answered my question sir. I dont need to answer it am i being detained agent gilmore. Theres your pamphlet sir. Not interesting. Go ahead go ahead and stick it in. Do you want it. Go right ahead. Collection. Some may say why are you being so difficult. One of the rights of this country, is the right to travel without your travel being interfered with, unless they have a reason to believe you have done something wrong. So the idea of check points inside the country, away from a national border, is very problematic at best. And suspicious check points are based upon a premise that a they are set up under the idea that anyone who is being stopped initially, theres no reason to believe that person has done anything wrong. Yet agents are under the threat of force, seizing people because every check point is a fourth seizure. You are a constitutional lawyer, one is something illegal going on here, and two is the Fourth Amendment overclaimed in these sorts of issues . Yeah, the Fourth Amendment is overclaimed thats well put. The Fourth Amendment provides american citizens and residents in the United States with very important protections. It only cover as specific set of things and to say that we cant have border check points to control for residency status, or citizenship, anywhere except at a port of i have, is basically the same as saying that the country that the government of the United States has no constitutional way to enforce the laws against illegal immigration. Because Illegal Immigrants wont p crossing over at a port of entry, they will be crossing for example the rio grand, someplace in the the interlands and the logical place to control for that kind of traffic is at a roadway the ice may be the only country in the world where you can claim that the police dont have a right. The owner of this television station i aschurr you everyone here knows when the police ask for your papers you bet brother deuce them very fast. So thats how it is in most countries and, in the United States, what is extraordinary about the United States, is a recent ruling to the effect that state and local police dont have a right to ask for those papers. I find that to be very problematic. Check out my screen, this is the aclu, they gave a map the government 100mile border zone, it is all around north south, even the coastal area they are saying about 197 Million People live within coastal boards and we have on youtube, you can type in Border Patrol, and check out all these videos that people have uploaded and we asked our community, if this is necessary, saying it is annoying but useful, the refusersic have a point, unfortunately, it is a blurry one. And another one, being stopped is one thing, being searched is another, many of these cars end up being searched thats when it becomes unconstitutional. Now, james, you are from the aclu, is the Fourth Amendment a santa claus for civil lib beforeties attorneys like you . What is your take . Is there a gray area . Is this constitutional, and the Border Patrol have license to do what they are doing . There are a couple of issues. One is whether they are lawful in and of they wants and many people, including federal judges including at least one Supreme Court justice, have suggested theres no way to reconcile a suspicious less stop of innocent travelers with Fourth Amendment protections. Its just at odds with the motion of living in a free society. The United States is not qatar. We have a Fourth Amendment for a reason, and the supreme has been very suspicious in other settings. In a more recent case, the city of indianapolis, in which they said you cant set up a check point for all manner of criminal wrongdoing, thats exactly what we see them doing at these chien points. One question is whether the check points themselves are lawful, but are the individual stops lawful, and what we see increasingly, and quite often, is that individual stops involve racial profiling illegal searches, which violate the Fourth Amendment and sometimes excessive use of fork. That is a consequence of giving wide discretion, of what has been the most abusive in the country. You know, we have a little bit of time left, not much terry, do we have to choose between National Security and civil rights in is that a false framing of the issue. Absolutely not. Its very clear from the numbers from the government itself, that these internal check points are very ineffective, and inefficient in fact, gao study from back in 2008, indicated that one of the primary reasons that it is used to justify these interim check points is that official ports of entry, the Border Patrol, or customs only attempts to interdict 30 of major illegal activity, so they say they need a second layer of defense inside the country, so that raise it is country, why are they only attempting to interdict 11 at ports of entry, and the racialal is they dont want to they dont want to interfere with border commerce and traffic too much. So instead of doing their jobs at the border, they allow knowingly allow of illegal traffic to pass through, so that they dont interfere with the commerce too much. Thats an entirely thats a bit of a different discussion than we are having right now, unfortunately we dont have more time for the one we are having. I do want to mention we reached out to Border Patrol and did not receive a response, thank you to our guests forry, mar yeah loyola. Still ahead, what if you can get a digital version of yourself to do your Grocery Shopping make appointments and even call friends and family on your behalf, a leading futurist shares why he thinks in a couple of years with will digital twin to track our every move and respond to our needs. Later the impact online activism has on advancing human rights issues does it lead to change . Or in some cases exacerbate the problem, stay with us. He is one of the leading experts on this tech nothing he is joining froes point view california. Great to see you, lisa. Good to see you too. I am not sure how i feel about a digital. How would a computer based version of me even come to exist . It does creep some people out. Anyone that has kids that plays video games see these are becoming cinematic in quality. The computers are making maps of our language as well. If you saw the jeopardy contest that was the first time that many people in the field realize that computers can talk to us by the end of this decade. And in full language sentences and thats a pretty reasonable prediction, they wont be very small, but they will be able to converse with you. And at that point, its very obvious to see that you can have something that actually has a simulation of you as well. Something that so the conversation is going to be improving but what kinds of things might my cyber selfdo for me. Well, it is going to build happens. It is going to be building maps of your values, of what you care about, your interests, your goals. What your plans are. And when im busy, my cyber twin could take the phone. Be my phone screener, and answer a few questions to make sure that the person who is calling is not a telemarketer and then let them through to me, and when i am asleep my agent will be monitoring all the screens of information that i am interesting and making recommendations for what i read, and watch, who i talk to on social networks. What i buy and even what i vote on. That could be sold on part of this. We are having this conversation right now, check out my screen, who do you think would win in a fight between sirry and cortana. Ziri. This is a new pepsi verses coke challenge of the twentyfirst century. You know what i hope so. I hope that basically people are going to realize that theres not just siri in there, we have google now, we have viv, which has been spun out, have now created this new twin agent called viv, and they are hoping to have her online by the end of this year. So these are going to be some amazing competitions. But opens up a lot of questions about who owns the data, and how much control do you have over it, is it you or the marketers and what is the privacy level, and how much are you going to let this record some tis linguist know if i have a recording of who yaw said, with the phone listening in, a wearable phone, and lets say the end of this decade, is listening in to everything you are saying and it has two years worth of wash. Thats too much. Thats scary. Is right. Once it has a map of all the things you have said, and your blog, anyone has email with a blogger who doesnt know it, right, so it is basically mapped all that stuff, and now you have a tip of the tongue experience, a word you want to get out, your digital twin can wees whenever in your ear and 80 of the time lit be right. We asked our Online Community about this, we asked them what chores would you want outsourced nothing but monitoring social media. Schedules appointments nothing replaces personal relationship building, burn says updating social media, the replying to emails we would love that. But check this out, pizza hut has released what it call as subconscious menu, give this a look this amazing gadget can tell you by gazing and a few tiny tiny milliseconds your pizza is revealed you mentioned the concerns and this is the point of the part of the show where i can be a geek and lisa looks at me lie a geek. And hall 9,000. You cant see me. And she stairs at me like i am crazy. This is all the cool stuff we talk about, about our digital self, but will this somehow deprive us of our humanity will this turn against it, what should i be concerned about about this technology . Ever one of these interactions is creating a man, and those get smarter and they can do things and those can empower you. And emicate you, or they can make you depend and manipulated by others. And offense choice, if you think about that little blurb you just showed with the pizza hut menu, the company that made that, knows that you can use those to find out what your unconscious biases are. So i can find out if i am using those whether i am still racist subconsciously. Now, thats not information that you would want to have publicly available. But it is information that could be privately useful to you, because then you can train yourself out of that unconscious bias. You want to have the most control over those, so you can use them for positive rather than negative purposes. Fascinating conversation thank you so much for joining us. Thank you and remember social Media Campaigns bring back our girls, occupy wall street, still ahead, we discuss if social Media Campaigns like those have positively impacted the people they originally intended to help. And how online activism can sometimes backfire but sometimes viral campaigns can have unintended consequences. Krzysztof joins news studio, he is the Emergency Response manager at Amnesty International. He looks at the intersection of technology and human rights. Forensics lab, it aims to verify information shared online. And a social media strategist, she is also heavily involved in online activism, and has been behind several viral campaigns sometimes we associate the viz didnt the excitement of an Online Campaign with its effectiveness, how do you know it works. Thats a great question, and you brought it to the point that people have very very high expectations. But expectations are not equal impact. On another level, i think people equal metric like a lot of members eethink social media is not very new in that regard. I think it sometimes have expectations that we can fix overnight, be uh thats unfortunately not the case. Do you think that the social Media Campaign can get so big, that it actually overshadows the issue itself. Call me an optimist, but i have a lot of hope when it comes to sort of the power of social media. For galvanizing companying bring back our girls is a great example. Of course, we need to mention that boko haram is still going out and doing harm in the word, and a tweet wasnt able, or many werent able to stop all of that harm. But you know it started with the and it became a full blown Foreign Policy issue. Or crisis that our government had to address publicly. The fbi got involved we have people who have traveled to nigeria to get bell jens on this group. The fact that michelle obama, that they were influencerring and very important people, drawing attention to this campaign, i think really made a difference, in the way that we talked about it at least. Theres no doubt about that, and not a lot of people know about that now. We want to encouraging people to take action, to call their congressman, they will know what this is about, and it becomes much easier to mobilize. So what i am talking about, it creates an community that can be very effective. Krzysztof, talk about community, our Online Community, whether its useful, whats the strength and weaknesses of activism. This is the still being used we just got this tweet today brings back our girls we have black lives matter in response to eric garner and mike brown. Thats trending. Activism is a catalyst that leads to organized sustained activism, just look at the eric goner. Here is Amnesty International there is join our twitter action today. The activism is used to but sometimes it causes a crack down, and more human rights abuses and turkey. We noticed in pakistan, what do you say that as the trend . How do we navigate around that negative consequence of the about vim. Unfortunately, or i guess fortunately, in the u. S. We if that were to happen, if president obama decided to make twitter unavailable, im sure there will be a lot of people that would be upset about it, and unfortunately in other countries are theres less freedom of speech, and where the situation is different. And in a way, i think the intention was good there, they wanted to use or utilize social media to drive tension to human rights abuses but i think in a way it perpetuated stereotypes. And how they must do all these crazy things. I think even here at home, we have to navigate how government uses social media, and what implications that has. We have about 30 seconds left, are there right and wrong ways to use social media to promote human rights campaign. I think we should be strategic, and careful, so we want to be careful with individuals who might put people at risk, so we want to us yeah it effectively, but also ethically, and i think thats crucial in any campaign. 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