In tehran. Whatever sort of deal they come up with, that is going to have to leave, at a minimum, the enrich program in place. Now there may be limits on that program. We may limit it to a particular location or do not deploy more advanced centrifuges, et cetera, et cetera. But there is either not going to be a deal at all or there will be a deal that leaves that enrichment plan in place. The demand that we roll back the clock and then iran gives up everything that it has already developed, that is just not going to happen. Talk about the timing here because there is a lot of concern, israel frankly, that we are getting to the point of no return and construction continues on Nuclear Reactors in iran where they seem to be moving forward. In your estimate, how close are we getting to that point where iran is extremely close to building a bomb . Well, i think that it is fair to say that iran likely already possesses the technical wherewithal to produce a bomb, it is just how long would it take them . There are a number of debates over this and those debates hinge on assumptions that are junoable, but if we are that are unknowable. But if we are looking to the two enrich facilities that they have, if they do not have some secret facility that we know nothing about, then we are capable of of preventing a breakout, simply by doing what we are doing, which is to keep those places under safeguards, under inspections and then having those inspections happen routinely enough that if they were to try to break out, we would detect that before they could make enough material for a weapon. Now if they have a secret facility, all bets are off. And that is why i think that we need to take that is why a critical component of the negotiating process has to be to create greater transparency, the more that we monitor their declared facilities and then for the iaea to carry out inspections of suspicious iranian locations and to ensure that there are no parallel secret programs, that is really the key to greater confidence that iran is not making a bomb, more that any of the other things that weve been discussing. Robert, thank you for your insights tonight. A reminder for you at home you are watching the continuous coverage of the geneva talks, no deal reached tonight after days of negotiations with iran over their Nuclear Ambitions and phil stands by for us from geneva with new developments, i understand, about the meetings later this month, phil . Yes, jonathan. Already were hearing a little bit more about the specifics of november the 20th and the resumption of these talks. What is interesting to note it is that it had not be the heavy hitters who will be coming back here. Way are hearing from a number of sources but the accomplish Foreign Ministry says that it will be a secondary tier and so were looking at an under secretary of state, Wendy Sherman presumably who started these talks here, and then well see Deputy Foreign ministers coming to town on the 20th and that takes down the Pressure Cooker that was the atmosphere here once everybody and their dog started to show up. But perhaps that will now allow for a little bit more progress because, you know, the spotlight has really been on these talks with all of these, you know, grade a names showing up in town. Yes, secretary kerry showing up unexpectedly yesterday to salvage these talks it is widely understood and so what does it mean now that well see the Deputy Foreign ministers now picking up these negotiations . Well, you are absolutely right. I mean secretary of state john kerry showing up, that really changed the atmosphere here. When katherine ashton, the eu reboundtive, representative asked him to come, it was expected that he would help to narrow gaps but when he showed up we heard that the French Foreign minister decided to come as well and then following that it was a snowball effect, the british and then German Foreign minister said that they had to be there and then late last night or now actually friday night we heard that the Russian Foreign minister would be coming and then when you get these very powerful individuals around the table, you know, they have a lot of of power and a lot of concerns that go beyond just negotiations here on the ground. Theyve got to answer directly to their heads of state. And so, you know, this really put things into a microscope that the atmosphere changed here significantly once these guys started to show up. And, of course, the fact that the French Foreign minister showed up and apparently really threw a wrench in the works by standing strong on some issues, that significantly changed the course of these negotiations, apparently, and that will not be a issue as these kind of more operational individuals show up on the 20th and then deal with some of the more nitty gritty without the entourages and the late night phone calls back to the kremlin, the white house or to white hall in london and so that takes the pressure off a little bit but the pressure still will be significant because it is a hugely important issue. Jonathan . Clearly. Were awaiting secretary kerry to come from out of those doors and speak of these recent developments and robert from the Kennedy School at harvard, i wanted to get your thoughts on that. On the meeting on the 20th it will be the Deputy Foreign ministers. Is that, in some way, a setback . I agree pretty with everything that phil just said. It does not surprise me at all because it is a major deal when you start to bring in the heavy hitters. When you see the Foreign Ministers from the p5 plus one countries showing up it sends a signal that a deal is imminent. You do not fly secretary of state kerry to geneva unless there is to be ink to paper which is what highlights then what a blow it was when a deal was not reached and, when it was, the french who were the ones that seemed to throw a curveball rather than it coming from the iranian side. And so i think that this is obviously going to go back to the routine level, which is still a relatively high level diplomatically, and if we see and i think that they will be very cautious about when they are going to start bringing Foreign Ministers in again to make sure that there is really going to be a deal. Okay. Well see what happens. Robert, thank you for joining us. Well take a quick break. This is aljazeera. A quick break and then well return after the break. Thank you for joining us. This is live coverage of the geneva talks, no deal yet reached after days of negotiations over the Iranian Nuclear program. Were awaiting secretary of state john kerry to walk through those doors and speak with the media. Phil, any idea of when secretary kerry may be speaking . Well, it could be any moment now. We do know that he will be coming here. When the state Department Released the information, they said it would be after the eu representative and the iranian Foreign Ministers press conference and so that could happen at any minute here but, you know, it is interesting to note that he is not wasting any time, that he does have something to say. And he will come here to say it and, of course, we will be here to hear it and then bring it to you. Jonathan . Any idea, phil, what he may actually say . Clearly a disappointment here for the secretary . Well, sure, absolutely. I mean, there was such optimism. This did not go the way that they had hoped that it would go. And again i have to reiterate that his presence really changed the atmosphere here. It was thought that by bringing him in that we were at the ninth you know, we were at the the goal line, almost. We were at the one yard line. But then everyone else piled on and then things just went awry. So it will be interesting to hear what he has to say and his reflections on what has been going on. And so, phil, talk to us what happens next here. You mentioned that the meetings resume november the 20th. There is talk of trying to reengage with iran, with lower level heads of state. How likely is it over the long term that well actually see something come of these talks . Well, looking into the crystal ball, that is always dangerous but, you know, they would not, again, be meeting on the 20th if they thought that nothing would come of it, if they thought there was an impasse, that they could not get past t the thought that they are looking at this close on heels of what has happened here, as far as the meeting on the 20th , it shows that there is some Common Ground and some progress has been made in the last three days and the question of whether or not they can go now to their separate capitals, reconvene, have a little talk amongst themselves and, you know, amongst their own camps, well, that may reinvigorate things or give them a breath of fresh air getting away from the Pressure Cooker and then come back from this brief intermission with refreshed energy and a little bit of reflection, then have the opportunity to approach this in a different manner without without all of the big boys in town. And so theres still very much a possibility that this will go. And we do know that pretty every party has said that they are determined to at least find some way forward. And that includes the iranians an it includes the United States. And so the will is still there. It is just a matter of sorting out whatever these issues are that are outstanding, stops what was hoped to be some more concrete progress from the talks that have been going on for the last three days in geneva. Jonathan . Yes, and, phil, you mentioned that these negotiations were really over a temporary freeze of the Iranian Nuclear program. Any indication that the terms may now be shifting a lift bit . Well, certainly the things that the French Foreign minister came out and said were those thins that were stopping him from signing onto the deal, the heavy water plant in iraq or of iran, and the stockpile of enriched uranium, that has to be dealt with. That is what kept the french from signing on and is what ended up with no concrete agreement here and it has to be stressed that this was never expected to be the conclusion of talks, this is the start of a process. That is what everyone said when they came to town in geneva. This is not the end, this is the beginning, they would say. And so this is still very much a first step, as they say. It is just a first step which has been delayed, it appears, by a lack of agreement on the ground during this round of talks. Jonathan . Okay, phil, live from geneva, thank you. 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I want to thank my colleagues from the united kingdom, germany, france, russia and china, and i want to thank Lady Katherine ashton for her leadership and for the europeans unions convening all of us here in order to perform this very important business of trying to deal with the question of a countrys potential move towards nuclear weapons, and obviously the commitment by the president , and by all of the Member States p5 plus one and others in the world to make certain that that doesnt happen, that iran does not get a nuclear weapon. I want to say that the negotiations were conducted with mutual respect. They were very serious. But they were conducted in a civil and appropriate way for a subject as serious as this one. We came to geneva determined as president obama said his goal since day one as president to make certain that iran does not acquire a nuclear weapon. That remains our goal because we remain committed to preventing the proliferation of weapons 6 mass destruction and we remain committed to protecting our allies. Particularly our allies in that region where security is so critical. We also are committed to protecting our interests in the world of the consequences of the spread of these weapons. We came to geneva to narrow the differences. And i can tell you without any exaggeration not only we narrowed differences and clarified those that remained, but we made significant progress in working through the approaches to this question of how one reins in a program and guarantees its peaceful nature. There is no question in my mind that we are closer now as we leave geneva than we were when we came, and that with good work and good faith over the course of the next weeks we can, in fact, secure our goal. Over the last two days a significant amount of progress was made. Im impressed and grateful in the way that the p5 countries worked effectively together. Their teams worked effectively together. I think tonight there was an unity in our position and an unity in the purpose as we leave here. Were committed to having political directors, i think Lady Katherine ashton shared this with you, to meet in the next few days and were committed to returning as necessary somewhere in the next weeks hopefully with a goal of either building what was done today or completing the task. Let me just say that for those who are wondering about this kind of process, it takes time to build confidence between countries that have really been at odds with each other for a long time now. In the case of iran since 1979. And so were working hard to try to overcome thi mistrust, to bud confidence, to try to find the ways that both the p5 plus one and the United States and iran have the ability to be able to achieve this goal of ascertai ascertaining for certain without doubt that a program is a Peaceful Nuclear program. Diplomacy takes time, and all the parties here need time to fully consider the issues. Very complicated technical difficult issues that we discussed here in the last days. And i particularly am anxious to return to brief the president and share with the congress and others what we have learned and what we are thinking as we go forward. We also understand that there is very strong feelings about the consequences and the choices we face for our allies, and we respect that. Some of them are absolutely directly immediately involved, and we have enormous respect. Needless to say for those concerns. I want to caution everyone from jumping to conclusions or believing premature reports or prejudging outcomes or particularly believing, you know, either rumors or other little parcels of information that somebody pretends to know or that leak out. The fact is that the negotiations are actually taking place enormously privately, and that is a sign of the seriousness of what is taking place. We have been working on this for a long time. The p5 plus 1 has been at this for four years or more. I know ive been watching and engaged in this effort as a senator and now secretary of state for some period of time so im aware of the complicated nature of this particular challenge. We came to geneva with a clear purpose of trying to advance the goal of preventing iran from securing a nuclear weapon, and i believe we leave this round of talks not only committed, recommitted to that goal, but clearly further down the road in underring what the remaining challenges are, and in clarifying the ways that we can actually do certain things together to reach that goal. I would emphasize also the window for diplomacy does not stay open indefinitely, and we will continue working to find a peaceful solution because we believe that forceful diplomacy is a powerful enough weapon to be able to actually de fuse the worlds most threatening weapons of mass destruction. Thats why we will continue to do this. So with that im happy to answer a couple of questions. The first question is going to be from kim of bbc. Good evening, mr. Secretary. Good morning. Good morning. I can only imagine how tired you are. Mr. Secretary, two questions. How much coordination takes place between the members of the p5 plus 1 ahead of a meeting like this. Were you blindsided by the french and their objections to the agreement . And a second question, you dont have a deal yet. Youre hoping to get one in the coming weeks with further negotiations, but that does give detractors of a deal with iran time to de rail your work. Im thinking of israel. Im thinking of saudi arabia, but im also thinking of congress in the u. S. Are you worried that congress is going to push once again for further sanctions against iran . Well, let me answer the second part of your question first, and just tell you point blank that this is an issue of such consequence that really needs to rise or fall on the merits, not on politics. People need to stop and think about what happens each day now that you dont have an agreement. Each day that you dont have an agreement, iran will continue to enrich. Iran will continue to pu its p. What were hoping to do is freeze that program in its place so it is not in a position to continue while the real negotiation goes on to figure out what the future final agreement would look like. That takes time. Now it seems to me that members of congress and others in the world sundays that you need to give diplomacy the chance to exhaust all the emdis available to it if you are ultimately going to exercise your ultimate option, which is the potential use of force. The world wants to know that it was a last resort, not a first resort. So i believe it is essential for congress, essential for all of our countries, and i think we all share this. The p 5 plus 1 is absolutely united in the motion that we must pursue diplomacy to prevent iran from acquiring the weapon. We know the clock is ticking. Thats part of what makes this urgent. Im convinced over the next days the reasonableness of what we were doing, and the reality of what we achieve will be taken into account by those who need to know what that is. And that will be shared as appropriate as we get back. With respect to the negotiation itself, we work very closely with the french. We agreed with the french that there were certain issues we needed to work through. We came here with bracketed language. Thats the nation of negotiation, and we knew we would have to work going forward, and we did. We needed certain language that clarified certain things. I certainly came in here inten intending to do that, and thats what the president wanted me to do. The president has repeatedly said we will not rush to an agreement. The president has made it clear that no deal is better than a bad deal. And ihink its good were going to take the time were taking to make certain that we are dotting the is and crossing the ts and doing what is necessary to have an agreement that we are sure we can look our allies and friends in the face and say this gets the job done. Thats the purpose of it. So