Im ali velshi and this is real money. Americans who suffer from Mental Illness like depression bipolar faces discrimination from a society full of superficial stereotypes. Ill give you a reality check that explores how the stigma of Mental Illness keeps some from seeking treatment and becoming productive members of the workforce, and youll hear how a man from one of americas prominent families is trying to change how companies treat people with Mental Illness. It is no wonder why society associate Mental Illness with violence and crazy people. Media is full of stories of atrocities by people with psychiatric problems. The latest eddy ray routh, doing posttraumatic stress disorder. Pleading insanity in the shooting death of chris kyle. Yes, its true people with Mental Illness have a higher risk of committing violence than the rest of the population. Countless studies shows the vast majority of people with Mental Illness are not violence criminal or dangerous. Serious Mental Illness contributes very little to the overall rate of violence in the general population. Society, meanwhile, must spend more time understanding the real cost of Mental Illness. The centers for Disease Control and prevention says depression is a cause of absenteeism and productivity loss and that costs u. S. Employers an estimated 23 billion annually. According to a survey. Because of the stigma of Mental Illness, workers who wouldnt hesitate to ask for time off are afraid to risk their careers to ask for Mental Health dales. Days. The good news is companies are leading the way on how to deal with those with Mental Illness. Among those leading the charge Patrick Kennedy, who tried to hide his own struggle. My world was immediately crashing down on me. Reporter nearly 46 million americans suffer a form of Mental Illness. Yet on the job stigma remains. The most destructive aspect of that is the message that the person gets implicitly which is keep it a secret. Keep it to yourself. Patrick kennedy suffered in silence for years. To the outside world, the son of Edward Kennedy was living a privileged life, the member of a dynasty. On the surface, the United States congress, i am doing press Catholic Church, ill voting. I must be winning in the game of life. But kennedy was losing his own battle with depression. I thought i was keeping it together when in fact im home, drinking myself to sleep, and abusing medications, because im worried about what people will think if i go to streams. And the end result is i self diswuct. In may, he crashed his car into a barricade. Appearing disoriented he told police he was late for a vote. I have a vague recognise of terror. Waking up not knowing where my car was and knowing that something bad happened. Reporter he claimed to have taken a sleeping pill. The next day he acknowledged that he was abusing alcohol and pills to alive the symptoms of depression. I accepted the consequences of my actions and cop rited with the police and attorneygenerals office. It was the beginning of my treatment. Kennedy was cited with three traffic violations entered rehab and was reelected. In 2011 after 16 years in politics he left the Family Business to become a fulltime Mental Health advocate. He hopes to make life easier. You dont want to get in a hot tub. If its warmish it should be okay. In connecticut, a homebased house counsellor, who is bipolar. I enjoy a job well done. It assists in my bipolar, making me feel like im doing well. Im less likely to fall. She enjoys being her own bus after experiencing a work place incident . Twaut. The job in a Health Food Store seemed to go well. A woman who was training me complimented me saying she was the easiest person i trained, was class to work with me. I felt confident i was going a good job. My boss said great job. Reporter she felt secure enough to tell her boss she was attending a bipolar support group. She said cool, good for you. That was it. So she thought. When they returned to work the boss had a different tune. She was having difficulty making eye contact, saying well, you know, your performancent up to par. Youre not quite doing what we need you to do. Really your bipolar is affecting your work. I was stunned, shocked. I felt confused and hurt because i gelt like i had been doing a great job and it didnt make sense. That is outrageous and one of my goals is to build enough credibility and power to fight back. This is going to be a political issue. Patrick kennedy is working to create a c. E. O. s roundtable on Mental Health to help executives change the way Mental Illness is handled. Mike thompson, a Principal Health care and benefits consultant is someone the communitys enlisted. I had Mental Health illness in my family. I had a brother who committed suicide. I dont know if we could have stopped that outcome. The lack of acceptance in a Society Makes it harder for people to engage with treatments available. Untreated Mental Illness costs the u. S. 105 billion in lost productivity, and 200 billion in lost earnings per year much. Effective and productive workers can have Mental Illness. When someone experiences Emotional Distress or psychological distress the signs are not obvious. Companies like du pont are taking steps to help people to reach out for sport. Glaxo smith clines 80 of employees enrolled in their programme yes this less lost work time. Since caterpillar started a programme, average lost work time decreased by 40 . Changing Corporate Culture will take time. Companies are uncomfortable dealing with people who have a Mental Illness. Reporter Patrick Kennedy, four years sober, nose better than most that initiating real change is a work in progress. Its one day at a time and is not cliche to say that one of tools used by Patrick Kennedy and others is the americans with disabilities act. The ada makes it against the law to distrip nate against someone distrim nate against someone with a mental disability at work. The law says employers must make reasonable accommodations for qualified people. What about the rite of an employer to fire an employee who is not pulling their weight because of excessive absences or the right of an employee that feels unsafe because they might be working with someone who has a Mental Illness. Im holding an h. R. Person to act next. Youre watching real money. Tell me what is on your mind. Keep it right here. Many workers who lost their jobs because of Mental Illness have successfully sued former employers. What about the right of a company to terminate app employee who is not performing. Susan lucas spent 10 years in h. R. And consulted on the firing of employees suffering from Mental Illness and joins me via skype in switzerland. Your twitter hand is real evil h. R. Lady. What is that about. As you mentioned, who wants to talk to an h. R. Person we have a bad reputation. Let me ask you about terminating people with Mental Illness, you believe a company should have the right to terminate someone with Mental Illness. Of course they have the right. You can terminate anybody. The question is can you terminate them because of Mental Illness, the answer is no. Thats a distinction. You can terminate them because they are not good performers. You counselled companies to be careful about the wording you dont want Mental Illness creeping into a decision because it opens them up to a lawsuit. You have counselled people to skirt the law. No absolutely not. Definitely not skirting the law at all. If a performance is not where it should be and with the reasonable accommodations acquired by law, if it does not change it around. Its possible to terminate someone. Lets talk about the reasonable accommodations required by law in the case of the woman whose story we heard, she felt comfortable, that she could trust her employer with her penaltial illness. It sounded at first blush that everything was okay. Suddenly it was used as a reason to terminate her. Theres a fear out there that if one tells their employer that they suffer a Mental Illness, theyll be seen differently. Its a real fear. The problem is even though this is the clear violation of the law, if the company is subject to the american act, which it may not have been you have to ask 15 employees before you are subject to the law. Lets assume that they are. Because someone tells you they have a disability a Mental Illness, you cant fire them because of that. If the facts are laid out. Its a clear violation of law. We know that a lot of people get fired for reasons that are not about their performances or prejudices, and we know you cant hide the fact that you are a woman or black. You may hide the fact that you are gay. You can hide the fact that you are old. You can probably try to hide the fact you suffer from a Mental Illness, should you . That depends, a lot of people have them under control, with therapy and medication, and theres no need for the employer to know about them. You wouldnt they sayly discuss all your Health Problems with the boss. Theres no need to discuss Something Like this with your bosz, unless it affects your job. Its criminal call. If you dont. They are not required to ask you about your Mental Health issues and they probably chunt, because your boss is not a psychiatrist your h. R. People are not psychologists, we are humans its not up to us to make medical diagnosis, you bring it up. H. R. People are people people with prejudices. In your experience in these companies with which you have consulted. When somebody discloses an otherwise unclosed Mental Illness, does it change a companys perception of their abilities . You cant say one way or the other. Some companies, some managers yes, it exchanges the perception. Others, not. Its dependent on the individual. Have you ever been asked to find a way to legally get rid of someone because of a Mental Illness. Absolutely not . You have to imagine that happening. I dont mean Mental Illness, but people saying we have to get rid of something. There are people that want to fire people for all sorts of regions. One thing that people are not necessarily aware of is 49 of the 50 states in the United States you can terminate anybody for any reason as long as that reason is not illegal. If i dont like the colour of your shoes, i can terminate you. If i dont like the colour of your skip that is a reason. Thank you for sharing this. Despite your twitter handle you dont seem that illegal. A former h. R. Specialist the face of violent extremism is changing. Women and children are radicalized every day. What would economics do . The white house wrapped up a 3day summit on combatting violent extremism, the same themes of winning hearts and mines and fighting terrorism continues, with with an expansion of human rights and end to oppression emphasised. Mike im in favour as the next guy is to doing whatever we need to do to end terror u. I am intrigued by the idea of a great counter nararative to compete with the i. S. I. L. Narrative narrative. In truth do we know anything we didnt know three days ago . Not really. There was a lot of rhetoric. A lot behind doors. We were only allowed in behind cameras. In the teach it echoed what we heard from president obama with a few interesting twists. Today was App International audience ministers, foreign ministers, cultural ministers from around the world and the middle east. The president took an oblique swipe at some republican critics in the United States. He mentioned the fact that some of the european attack at the jewish deli if you follow you know the president has been under attack for not mentioning in his statement saying it was a random shooting at the tellie. Criticized for not pointing out that it was an act of antisem it growing antisemitism. The president was undercriticism talking about the slaughter in egypt of Coptic Christians the president talked about that incident and said the word christians, keep in mind, many of the countries in attending represented were from close allies in the middle east and dont have the best record. The subject he brought up education for girls, human rights democracy and free elections, freedom of religion, these were the things the president it was almost as if he was lecturing the countries with whom the president has economic tie and is relying on the military as part of the antii. S. I. L. Coalition. I dont understand what he think the Catholic Church will do. We do a lot of business with the countries, we pie a lot of oil, provide them with military weaponry use them as our bone bases and rely on then. The conference will be the thing that changes them . Well i dont think theres that inspection. Its hard to say what the motivation was, other than the fact that if you take away the president s ability or congressman or political leaders ability to jaw bone you take away the toolbox. Do they do it for political gain. Does it have a salutery affect the ostensible reason for the conference, and if you look at what hes saying and the audience hears what hes saying it may have a benefit. It will take a smarter mind than mine to figure out if theres tangible progress to what the president said yesterday and today. There are few smarter minds than yours now i hold out no hope. Mike viqueira and washington what would happen if you took pt fascinating thinking of freecon somics and ask them to hold their own summit. They did. Professor of studies at massachusetts, and spoke at president obamas summit of women in terrorism. She said if have hope of growing extremism, we need to recognise how the face of terrorism is changing. Lets ask how to fight extremism. Thank you for being with us. You heard the skepticism there, that i dont know that the things do anything. People got to hear from you and others. Lets talk about this. What is the changing face of terrorism that we need to be aware of. Theres two things to say. The summit for the parts the press was not in was able to highlight the great successes of three pilot programs in boston and minnesota. Although you might be skeptical. The fact is that we were able to see the countering violent extremism as it is happening, and we are able to think about the success stories. Like what. What is one example of a Success Story . When you look at what is going on in europe and the lack of integration of the Muslim Population and the poverty and the prisons disproportionately muslim, even though they are no more than 10 muslim and you look at the United States and the fact that 50 of muslims have a College Degree and the fact is that they are integrated. These were Muslim Americans that came to the summit to talk about how the programs helped to empower the communities, and in the communities that are not wealthy they have given route and opportunity for young people to go to college and succeed in ways others can not. Its hard to measure the dogs that doesnt bark. We have not had the problems for a reason. I didnt want to be cannes tankerous and disrespectful, but having been through the committees, we saw hopeful signs. I appreciate you saying that to me. One thing this you mentioned is a jihadi cool associated with a young person travelling to afghanistan, chechnya bosnia and syria. And people expressed the sentiment that we need a counter narrative. Conservatives will insult this. Theres no counter narrative for terrorism. Theres no counter narrative to say you go be a terrorist. What is the counter narrative . Some of the counternarratives are using the reality of what being involved is like. For example, on social media, there has been a number of jihadists who have been on twitter saying i came to be a martyr, and they have me cleaning toilets. This is something people dont realise. They figure that the life is add venture. The reality is almost you are facing a death because you are used as camera fodder. Or youll be married off and given to a fighter. Barefoot and pregnant within a few months. As we know the compelling argument. Daesh, is a term for i. S. I. L. Or i. S. I. S. We are talking about the compelling narrative that draws people in. Dont do that youll be in trouble. How is that different to dont drink and drive, youll get into an accident. How is it we are supposed to get the message across to people that that is bad when we know that that is attractive to them . I think that they are under the impression people who are online who think its an attractive option. Think if they go to the caliphate. Theyll have an exciting life and have all things given to them when the reality is awful. It also is in some of these poorer countries, not in the United States, places like pakistan its giving these young people something to lose. Because what happens is when theres nothing to lose this looks like a great alternative. You talk about teaching the carron, people in nebraska should be familiar with it. How did that go over. Part of it is people dont understand, the president does that this is a distortion of the koran, the reason we see so many people who are converts joining the islamic state, or that are people that doesnt grow up with particularly religious background is because of the individuals distort the carron or sell the message that doesnt exist. Thats why the majority are not buying into this. If you teach the koran, so that people have a balance to fend off the false images and the fantasies that are sold that is very help. Im with you. We need our kids to read more in general. Good to talk to you professor bloom. I appreciate it. Professor of community studies. Follow her on twitter. That is our show for today, im ali velshi, thank you for joining us. Retaking mosul. Iraq gears up for a new offensive aimed at forcing i. S. I. L. From the secondlargest city. The roll the u. S. Military could play. Superbug warning. 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