Well, there is still nearly two years to go before americans cast their ballots but already big money donors are prepared to blow billions of dollars on Political Campaigns and tv ads aimed at influencing who and what americans vote for in late 2016. If you need more proof that america democracy is up for sale then you only need to look at reports where Koch Brothers are ready for a 1 billion war chest to spend in the next election cycle. That will go to promote conservative causes and candidates including the person that the g. O. P. Nominates to replace obama in the white house. This 889 million amount is the leaked figure from a session this week at the Koch Networks annual winter donor gathering, a sort of billionaire caucus, staggering to some by any measure, and the money that the Koch Brothers raced for the 2012 campaign. Its also about as much as what the entire Republican National committee spent during the last president ial cycle. I will remind you that all that money did not help mitt romney win the election in 2012. Maybe spending twice as much will do the trick in 2016, but the dollar amounts are only part of the story. News of the Koch Brothers comes in the fifth anniversary of citizens unite thats the Supreme Court decision that opened the floodgates for corporate donors and outside special Interest Groups to spend on campaigns. Of the naysayers say that Citizens United encourages the rise of socalled dark money during elections. Dark money is money that the rich and powerful often give to political nonprofits that are under no obligation to report where they got their money. Since those deeppocketed donors can keep their funding a secret, detractors say that donors like the Koch Brothers, have an influence on outside elections. That only compromises democracy. The Koch Brothers are shahing shower showering donation. The charles and david are the nightmare that democrats wish they could wake up from. Last years midterm elections proved a point. In Key Senate Races like North Carolina they bought over 9,000 tv ads hammering the opponent of tom ti llis, the republican candidate who shares their free market political wish list. Cuts in political spending, cuts in taxes and full repeal of obamacare. In tilliss narrow victory, it was money well spent. Im the next United States senator. [ cheering ] the billionaire brothers spent roughly 290 million in the 2014 mid terms mostly through their complicated web of dark money organizations. Thats Campaign Spending largely by nonprofits that cant easily be tracked or sourced. There are plenty of other organizations that are also nonprofit, 501 c 4 social welfare groups that are linked in some ways, in some form and fashion to the Koch Brothers either quite directly or more indirectly. The Koch Brothers have pioneered the use of billionaire caucuses closed door seminars to raise cash from fellow wealthy donors including Sheldon Adelson who support proisrael causes. He spent 100 million in the the 2012 president ial election with these meetings known to raise as much as 50 million a pop. But the democrats have taken on their own hushhush affairs to rake in money from bigtime donors. Launched in 20152005, the no, sir alliance aims to, quote build prerogative infrastructure that could help counter the wellfunded and sophisticateed conservative apparatus helping to steer 500 million to liberal groups. Attendees including george soros and San Francisco hedge funder tom story, who donated 73 million in the 2013 mid terms. And while the koch brother spending helped republicans take control of congress this year, there are some who worry that dark money will always allow the very rich republican or otherwise, to advance their interests above all others. Its important to note that what the kochs and others who trade in dark political money are doing is on its face perfectly legal. There are plenty of folks who think the law should thank, and something as public as a Political Campaign should not be fueled with secret crash according to david leventhal. Dave leads the Team Investigating the influence of money in politics, and he joins me from washington. David, it does seem when we do stories like this, it seems quite focused on republicans and conservatives doing this, theyre way ahead of the democrats. But on one side the democrats are criticizing them for it, and on the other side, the democrats are catching up and would like to be as effective at this as the conservatives. Without question. There are groups who have been animated by democrats animateed by liberals, who are giving dark money. I have three emails from democratic groups talking about the Koch Brothers. Yes, sure, theyre going to be raising an incredible amount of money. Their network is going to be more active than they ever have been before. But the democrats are going to have an answer. The answer at least in part is going to be dark money in 2016 even though the same mouth on the other side theyre talking about Citizens United being an evil for politics, talking about dark money being an awful thing for american political discourse. All that being said theyre still going to do it. Let me ask you this, in the end there are candidates who run. One will win and voters vote. Somebodys dollar still does not have more power than my vote bus, and nobody is putting a gun to my head and taking me to the ballot box and asking me to do it. Since the responsibility on us as voters is to be better informed and not fall victim to endless advertising, which is what this comes down to. In spirit the Supreme Court agreed with that point. Many conservatives agree with that point saying market politics is a marketplace of ideas. If youre a rich guy and you want to use your money to fuel political messages, good on you. Ultimately its going to all cam out in the wash, and voters will have information and act on that information. It doesnt really matter if its a known donor or not a known donor who is fueling the message. The message is still out there and voters will have an opportunity to weigh it. On the other side many liberals especially will say look, in the most public of important arenas, which is elections and campaigns in this country you should know who is behind a message. You should know the friends of the candidate who is running. The friend happens to be a wealthy cooperation or a shady union or somebody who has a very very special interest. Im sympathetic to the view, but tell me why it matters. If we find out that the idea is put forward by adelson because its a proisrael idea, or the Koch Brothers because its Pro Industries that were involved in. Whatever the case is. Why does it matter who is behind the idea . Why is the idea not judged on its own merit . Because many times the people at least the argument is that many times the people or the entities that are putting forth that picker message have a very very narrow special interest that would not necessarily represent a constituency that is going to vote for a house kind or a Senate Candidate or president ial candidate. As a result that person is able to pump in an incredible amount of money into this system, have an incredible amount of influence in this particular election and the public never knows who that person is. Just know that the person is funneling a whole lot of money into an organization that doesnt have to disclose its donors publicly when it buys up the airwaves and has the message that is going to support the democrat or support a republican or very often alley will attack a republican or attack a democrat. What is thewhat is the range of solutions for this from the most likely to the least likely . One of the most likely at least in terms of a governmental entity addressing this is going to be what the irs does. The irs does have the ability weve reported this a whole lot at the center of the republican integrity to go ahead and change the rules for what a politically active nonprofit can do. The head of the irs has told us that 2015 will be a year where they strongly look at the rules that governor these types of nonprofit groups, and one possibility is that ultimately they decide that there is going to be a lower threshold for the type of activity that particular nonprofit is going to have to even qualify for having political activity in the first place. Or cap the amount of political activity that they can have. Isnt the irs a little bit defanged on this one give the controversy around the irs politically targeting conservative groups . Thats actually right. Number one theyre defanged because of that, and number two the problems theyre having with just having enough Staff Members to review nonprofit organizations and poe his and do the Due Diligence theyre supposed to do and make sure that nonprofits are operating in legal fashion. Above and beyond that is a tall task. Two things are very unlikely, Congress Passing any law that will reel back the influence of nonprofit organizations or in general. Big money in politics, and the most unlikely thing of all is an institutional amendment overturned Citizens United. Many have been pushing for this. Snowballs chance in haiti is probably an apt description of that going forward. David leventhal at the senior of political integrity. Coming up, well look at business deals that might remind you of the last learn republican to run for president. Were moving this show to primetime. Catch me at 10 30 eastern and 7 30 pacific starting money. Well be back in two minutes. Real reporting that brings you the world. This is a pretty dangerous trip. Security in beirut is tight. More reporters. They dont have the resources to take the fight to al shabaab. More bureaus, more stories. This is where the typhoon came ashore. Giving you a real global perspective like no other can. Al jazeera, nairobi. On the turkeysyria border. Venezuela. Beijing. Kabul. Hong kong. Ukraine. The artic. Real reporting from around the world. This is what we do. Al jazeera america. The front runner for the 2016 president ial Campaign Jeb Bush and mitt romney are already on the fundraising hunt to secure commitment from deeppocketed donors like the Koch Brothers. There are plenty of similarities between the two candidates. Theyre both former goshes and hail from political families. Jeb bush has moved into moves that while all perfectly legal may cast a shadow on his potential candidacy. David shuster has more. Mitt romney became ceo of bain capital the day the company was formed. His mission to wreak massive rewards for himself and his investors. It was a damning image in the the 2012 president ial campaign. He made 21 million but yet paid a lower tax rate than many middle class families. If he wins, we lose. I have just called president obama to congratulate him on his victory. Some analysts chalked up mitt romneys eventually loss private private. Anything that is right for Opposition Research is fair game and potentially some of jeb bushs financial dealings may be a part that have. According to regulatory filings, bush launched in may of of 2013 a private equity firm, and through that company established three funds. Worth 40 million, 51 million and 22 million respectively. The largest and most recent fund is set up to take foreign money from foreign investors. 98 of its funding. Established overseas in the United Kingdom the fund takes advantage of generous tax benefits that keep profits safe from the irs, a major issue for voters according to taxpayer advocates. As Companies Move offshore and take jobs offshore per divesting where they would pay from america where they would pay their fair share of taxes. Investor money from, hl logistics bought 1. 4 million shares of dorian an u. S. Company that ships oil and natural gas exports overseas. And Companies Like dorian can capitalize on another influence a string of former george w. Bush officials have become powerful lobbyists for the Energy Industry and expedite the exporting of natural gas products to asia. But all of these high level connections dont come without a price in public perception. Jeb bush has had a Playing Field like very few americans have had. He has a father who was president. A brother who was president dealings in internationally his name opens more doors than anybody you could possibly know. Hes certainly capitalized on that with partners and businesses that have latched on to jeb bush have been able to make money off of that. Jeb bush declined an interview, but in an interview interview, he defended his work. Were creating jobs, expanding business, im not ashamed of that at all. That might be useful in washington, d. C. In. Analysts asay opposed to romney, bushs lack of reputation as a financial titan could help him in the end. Yellow bush is not going to be running as president as a professional businessman as mitt romney did. Jeb bush will be running as a conservative reformer as someone who has a governing record. Bushs background may not be a big pitch as to why he should be president. David shuster joins me now. He reported the peace. The value of jeb bushs funds are not a lot. When i saw that. 98million here. These private equity funds that we talk about and americans love to hate is much bigger. Its weird that people cant keep their hands out of it, the idea of private equity, foreign money coming in, tax shelters. I dont know how this sits with american voters. It doesnt sit when it seems like the politician is essentially trading pieces of paper or making money by making risky investments and you take the risk and the government, you know shoulders whatever if you dont fail to materialize on that risk. Thats where jeb bush may have a problem. Youre right, its not to the scale of mitt romney, but its not like ross perot who back in 1992 could point to an Electronics Company that created a lot of jobs and products that people can identify. Its difficult for average voters to identify, well, okay, hes raising funds. Hes doing it with chinese help and plowing it back into this fund. It seems like hes just trading with pieces of paper. If you go back to the last election and once it fades from memory the concept of the 47 the mitt romney recording the idea that we were bifurcated by class and income in many cases in voting, this is becoming a bigger deal. Its becoming a bigger deal, and the emphasis will be when the First Quarter report comes down, about where did he get all his money. And hes on pace to raise 100 million in the First Quarter. The stories will shift from these strange connections in terms of private equity to, well, who are all these people who are funding his campaign, and you will see that it is again people who are in the private equity world or energy world or the world of wall street. That is another issue for americans. What sort of influence do they have over him that i cant have . Is there an opening or an advantage to someone running against jeb bush to play along these lines . To a certain extent. They can make the same argument that jeb bush represents what mitt romney represented in 2012 and perhaps hes out of touch. But jeb bush right now all hes trying to show mitt romney is that you should not be the establishment figure in this campaign. I can raise more money and build a better Political Organization. Thats what hes doing. His goal is to chase romney out of the race. He can then deal with the republican establishment uniting them, and fending off a challenge from rand paul or someone from the more conservative libertarian party. I can see all those republican candidates ganging up on both of these guys saying theyre kind of the same. They are and that could condition conceive conceivably happen but money takes you far and he has the best Political Organization except for rand paul and the tea party, and that will take him far in terms of with standing these attacks he could conceivably get from these other republicans running against him. Thank you for joining us. David shuster. The Defense Department has been fighting budget cuts imposed on it by law for the last future four years. They were called the sequester. A stupid name for a stupid thing. It was intended to bring down the national debt. Next week president obama is expected to propose a 534 billion defense budget. 34billion higher than the proposed cap but that did not stop republicans and military leaders from criticizing it. Here we go again. If we in congress dont act see sequestration will return in full in 2016 setting our military on a far more dangerous course. The nations top generals and admiral in a new champion in the person of the republican chairman of the Senate Armed Senate Committee jan mccain calling the budget cuts senseless in the face of russia alqaeda and north korea. Its purely the Collateral Damage of political gridlock. One by one they decried the dangerous impact of the spending restrictions. I believe this is the most uncertain ive seen the National Security environment in my nearly 40 years of service. We would further delay capabilities further delay readiness Response Forces and we have 34 fleets in the state of virginia. Theyve already down sized dramatically and have fewer troops ships and planes. Were the Smallest Air Force weve ever been. It was a brief discussion of how the pentagon spends the billions it gets such as on the troubled f35 fighter the most expensive jet in history. With a lifetime price tag newest mated over 1 trilliondollar. Can we do it better . West virginia joe mansion noted the compromised budget bill just passed by congress was awarded 5 billion for new equipment that nobody asked for. Such as the 120 million for m1 abrams tanks that they admitted they didnt need. Excess tanks in the army. Hundreds of millions of dollars spent on tanks that we simply dont have the structure for any more. Jamie mcintyre, al jazeera, washington. Oil prices fell again today and Goldman Sachs said dont expect them to move much in the next five months, but ive been told that prices are going to move higher in the sex second half of this year. Well tell you why when we return in the next two minutes. Ad guests on all sides of the debate. This is a right we should all have. Its just the way it is. Theres something seriously wrong. Theres been acrimony. The conservative ideal. Its an urgent need. And a host willing to ask the tough questions how do you explain it to yourself . And youll get. The inside story ray suarez hosts inside story weekdays at 5 eastern only on Al Jazeera America and here we are with the trusty old barrel. This story does not grow old. Oil prices fell 4 settling at 44. 45. Among the reasons was a support that u. S. Oil supplies reached a record after rising 9 Million Barrels last week. Goldman sachs expects it to trade at 40 a barrel in the next four months of this year. This comes as they proposal to open up southern and lastic coast to offshore oil drilling. From virginia to georgia and the president would prevent exploration off the coast of alaska. One political analyst said of the president s plan, he giveth, and he take away. But it drew criticism from environmentalenvironmental criticism. Now, the president s plan covers oil and gas leases from 2017 to to 2022. Earlier i told you Goldman Sachs does not see Oil Prices Moving much in the first half of the year. But what about beyond that . Thats the first question i posed when i caught up with at the World Economic forum in davso, switzerland. Heres what they told me. My expectation is second half of 2015 well see the start of an awkward pressure on the crisis for two reasons. One, 2015, the investment in Oil Production may be cut globally, but by 15 . By virtue of these lower prices. Exactly. This may be in north america in the highcost areas. This would have an indication on the production. Downward pressure on the production. Second Lower Oil Prices mean lower gasoline prices, and this will give a pressure on the demand growth. These two coming together, lower pressure on the production. And we may see the second half of the year an upward pressure on the crisis, which i think what i think people would expect. Do you feel in 2016 that upward pressure it will continue, definitely. We heard from jim jim young kim. That this would be an opportunity to wean people off their subsidies. This is excellent in the middle east, china india it would be a very good move. They are now dictating the diesel prices because this is a big burden on the government budget and it gives incentive to use inefficient. So from middle east countries producers, from other years its a good time to force out subsidies,. Its very unpolitical and very unpopular politically. I can tell you something today, just to give a number. Today 500 billion u. S. Subsidies, and logic is here, we have the subsidyies to protect the poor, but 90 of our sub yesterdayys go to the medium to high levels. Because the richer you are. Exactly. In the developing world, they have no access to the you sources. What you do you think the motivation of the saudis to not cut production. Number one, they can afford it. Theyll gain the market shares because others will fall out. And shale from the oil sands that needs a price in the 50s. If not higher. If not higher to make it work. Is that the motivation . To get the market share back . I thought the main purpose would be terrorism. But theyre discussing oil price here. But Oil Price Production so much in the world my feeling that its out of the market forces. Saudis let the market go, and lets see what kind of picture it shows us. I believe the picture which will bewe will be seeing in a couple of months of time will be for the local producers. What does it mean for the future of highcost production. Every politician who has run in america has talked about Energy Independence of north america the oil sands although controversial, has become one of the main sources for oil. This really challenges north american production. Globally, 15 investment this year and its about 30 . What i expect first of all is that lots of mergers and acquisition. Big fish will eat the smaller fish. And independent companies the revolutionaries, the pioneers of this shale revolution. But since the crisis i do not expect it to be big disaster for the United States, and the u. S. Oil production will continue, but what well see is the slowing down of the growth. But i should say one thing we should mix two things together. U. S. Shale is very good news for the rest of the world but u. S. Will be still a major oil import country for saudi arabia. This will remain the largest exporting oil country of the world. It will needless oil to import, but the rest of the world, what about the rest of the world china, india east asia, europe, they will all need oil and there is one sing address in the world,. Thats why we still even if the post opec world it used to be that opec was entirely the decision maker. But now youve got norway, canada mexico, and the United States but the issue is that for export, saudi arabia remains the swing oil produceer. They are crucial for the oil markets for many decades to come. U. S. Oil is good, but almost all the oil is used at home. In terms of exports the saudi arabia and other middle easten countries are usual{ l }. Your view that Oil Companies are getting hit. Employment is getting hit layoffs are coming, but on balance the lower price of oil and gasoline is a net gain for the United States over the net loss from Oil Production. From the oil collapse there are three categories in terms of effects. The biggest winner is the United States. If mr. Obama was able to say the day before yesterday that the decision is behind us, we turn the page, i think the turn the baseball came from the shale revolution. The biggest losers, i mentioned the russia, iran, and nigeria and there are some countries in the middle, india china oilimporting countries if theyre able to make reforms they could make good use of this comfort zone while the price is low they could benefit from that. For u. S. Its different. Its very good news where the oil parks are today. Coming up next, new york city dodged an epic snowstorm but it still piled up hefty over time bills, and over time pay is one of the reasons why new yorkers want to become garbage collectors. Thats coming up next. This show will move to a new time slot starting monday starting at 10 30 eastern and 7 30 pacific. Back after this. Im not ordinarily one for trash talk but lets talk trash. Specifically the new York City Department of plantation whose workers pick up 11,000 tons of garbage each day but operate the citys 2300 snowplows. When a snowstorm of any magnitude hits the city, you can see a know throw in front of the garbage truck. Thats how it works in new york. Thats why the garbage collectors have the most coveted job in new york city. Mary snow tells us a few more reasons why so many people are lining up to make a starting salary of just 33,000 a year. When applying to the new york sanitation worker. To get a job in this day and age, its scarce. In fact this might be one of the toughest jobs to get in new york city. This past year more than 90,000 people submitted applications to become sanitation workers. But the department only hires about 500 new workers per year. That translates to an acceptance rate of. 54 . A little over half a percent. Harvard University Acceptance rate is 5. 8 . Its harder to become a sanitation worker in new york city than it is to get into harvard. What happens to all those applicants for this job . It makes sense and it made me think about how hard it is to get a job right now. One reason why being a sanitation worker is so enticing may be the pay. The starting salary is low about 34,000. But when you factor in overtime it averages about 47,000 in the first year. After five and a half years the salary jumps to an average of 89,000. Thats not bad considering the average annual pay for new York City Transit workers is 78,000. New york city teachers, 68,000. And new York City Parks department employee, only 50,000 a year. Since new york city sanitation workers also operate the citys 2300 snowplows there is an ample opportunity for over time pay. When we have a big snowfall we move into 12hour shifts, so they earn a lot of over time. Last winter was extraordinarily harsh, and people who might on average have made, say 75,000 a year were averaging more like 95,000. And there are other perks too. 10 extra pay for night shifts. Double time pay for sunday. 25 Vacation Days after six years of service and an unlimited number of sick days. In fact, Sanitation Department workers use an average of 14. 4 sick days in 2014. Thats more than Police Officers who also have unlimited sick days but only used an average of 7. 7 days of sick days last year. Like any strong union they do have very good benefits. They have very good pension benefits. They have good health plans. Thats true of most city employees. Unexpected. You nevada know what youre walking into. Needles, knives, acid. You dont know what youre your touching all the time. Despite days of endless mounds of garbage sanitation workers consider themselves to be one of the luckiest in new york. Its like hitting a lottery. I tell my friends take the test, 20 years you retire. Its a good job. Mary snow, al jazeera. All right lets talk some really big money. The kind that apple is earning thanks to amazing iphone sales. Check this out. Apple made 18 billion in profits in the three months ending in december. Thats the largest quarterly profit ever recorded by a Public Company on earth ever. It sold 74. 5 million iphones. 74. 5millionhow many people areis there anyone else who doesnt have an iphone . Thats nine iphones sold every second. Iphones 6 and 6plus sales drove revenues 70 ohio center china compared to a year ago. But now the question is what is next. Analysts are questioning whether apple has become too dependent on the iphone. Yahoo wishes it had that problem because lots more people are asking what is next for yahoo. Its spinning off its 15 stake in alibaba. Thats roughly 40 billion 85 of yahoos value. It plans to spin over the stake in a publicly traded company. The transaction will be tax free which means more money for yahoo and invest israeli ambassadorors, and theyre looking for a heavy payoff. It invested in alibaba in 2005 when it was nothing and now the question is how the ceo will be able to hip the struggling yahoo media and advertising business. Coming up, im going to talk to one of the most powerful doctors in the world of how a Global Insurance plan could help fight diseases like ebola. Health Officials Say africas ebola. Democrat as quickly slowing but remains a threat. The virus has killed more than 8500 people mostly in sierra leone guinea and liberia, but fewer people are treated today in all three countries. Thats reason for optimism, but no one is declaring victory over ebola yet. The World Bank Says that ebola shows us how unprepared the world is for a future pandemic, and it is calling on governments, corporations, and aid agencies to come up with a plan to deal with the next one. I recently sat down with the president of the world bank, jim young kim. He told me that hes working on developing what hes calling pandemic insurance. Im encouraged that the epidemics are going down. But they all start with a single case. We still dont know the cases could flare up again. But my focus and job is to ask another question, which is why is it that when an epidemic happens, we focus on it and then lose our focus and forget about it. The fact is that people forget about it is why ebola happened in the first place. We have a number of meetings that what were seeing. All of us together are working now to say all right lets put together Financial Instruments that will force the world to prepare for the next epidemic. You know, this is a very real down side risk to the globe economy. If you talk to the reinsurers, theyll tell that you Climate Change and pandemics are among the top of down side risk of the economy. We dont have the financial tools. There are so many his skated financial tools. We were talking this morning about a pandemic bond, and how could you structure a pandemic bond so people could invest, make a return, and at the same time protect the world from these down sides risks. Isnt that creepy . Investing in the idea of a pandemic . But isnt it great that were using the tricks of the traders of wall street to protect the world from these down side risk. We know that these down side risks will hurt the poor among us. Our job is to mitigate the Global Economy from these kinds of shocks that we know will happen. We just dont know when theyll happen. We have to be prepared all the time. Were absolutely committed not to let the same thing happen before ebola after ebola. Were going to keep our taken on this. The last time we met it was the day after those climate marchs around the world and it felt palpable. We had just made the agreement with so many countries. Right right. It felt to me like a Tipping Point that this was now not about activists but this was everybody realizing weve got to take a stand. Weve got to do that. This is the first World Economic forum since all of that has happened. Do you feel a palpable change and commitment to tackleing Climate Change, or is it business as usual . The declaration on Carbon Pricing was critical. One year ago today i mentioned Carbon Pricing and people said well in your dreams. Here we are countries representing 52 of global gdp has signed on to setting a price on carbon. More than a thousand companies have signed on, including petroleum companies. You know, the chinau. S. Agreement was unexpected and really powerful. In india, i was with Prime Minister modi. I said india could be a leader in Climate Change. Everyone thought of them not as a leader. Prime minister modi has quinn quintupleed solar energy. This is stunning that all these things have happened in such a short period of time. The problem is going to be finance. There is this figure of 100 billion floating around, and imf now has been very important voice in this debate. I think that we can actually put the financing together so that the poorest countries can feel that theyre going to have support with most mitigation and at dietitian. Thats jim yong kim. President of the world bank. Well look at what it takes to vaccinate hundreds of millions of children in the poorest countries. And well talk with a man who raised 7. 5 billion from private donors. Were back in just two minutes. Real reporting that brings you the world. This is a pretty dangerous trip. Security in beirut is tight. More reporters. They dont have the resources to take the fight to al shabaab. More bureaus, more stories. This is where the typhoon came ashore. Giving you a real global perspective like no other can. Al jazeera, nairobi. On the turkeysyria border. Venezuela. Beijing. Kabul. Hong kong. Ukraine. The artic. Real reporting from around the world. This is what we do. Al jazeera america. Now available, the new al jazeea america mobile news app. Get our exclusive in depth, reporting when you want it. A global perspective wherever you are. The major headlines in context. Mashable says. Youll never miss the latest news they will continue looking for survivors. The potential for Energy Production is huge. No noise, no clutter, just real reporting. The new Al Jazeera America mobile app available for your apple and android mobile device. Download it now providing vaccines to hundreds of millions of children in some of the worlds poorest countries is the mission of an Organization Called gavi the vaccine alliance. We learned that gavi reached its latest goal of raising 3. 5 billion thanks to donations from the United States, china and its main funder, the bill and Melinda Gates foundation. Not to mention others. It was there that i sat down with gavis ceo Seth Berkeley and he described the benefits of gavis unique structure. Were a privatepublic partnership. We were born here at this forum 15 years ago. Unlike just the u. N. Or just a private government or company or government, we can work across using different tools. We work with partners in terms of implementation, and therefore, were very efficient learning organization that can constantly change and try to adapt to the challenges in front of us. Were delivering vaccines to the most difficult places in the world. Explain to me again how is it that you can deliver a full sweet of vaccines, thats your goal in most places, to be able to make sure that particularly children are vaccinated. And you can do it at a fraction of the cost that the developed world thinks that it costs to vaccinate children. Well, first of all, and particularly if im talking to an u. S. Audience. Pricing in the u. S. Has not had controls around it at u. S. Often pay as top dollar price for a product that is made, innovated for the u. S. What were talking about here is doing high volumelow cost. Thats a Good Business deal for companies as well. What we do is when we drive up the volumes we drive down the costs of the individual vaccines which means they make more money in their primary markets. They make some money in the gavi markets, and they open up the rest of the world to these technologies which prior to gavi these vaccines just didnt get to these places. Which is a tragedy. For some crack seens youll pay 0. 15. And that vaccine in the United States costs 456. Which side of that equation is not making sense . Well, we made a societal decision that we want our pharmaceuticals to be forprofit companies. So they have to make money on drugs that are profitable and the drugs that are not profitable, the big failures as they move forward. Thats the deal we have. Prices are much higher in subsidizeing the candidates that didnt work as well as the ones that work. Now for us we only take candidates that work. Were going with proven products then what were asking is can we increase the size of production and drive down the price and then over time bring in other manufacturers, and other manufacturers particularly from china and india who have particular skills of mass production of products at low cost. Is that the way that it will be. Countries like United States who can afford to subsidize research on a drug because nine other drugs will fail will today top dollar and once its replicated it will become cheaper for the masses. The model is changing. Innovation used to occur only in Large Companies and they owned it from top to bottom. Today a lot of innovation comes from academy academia, and small companies, and now the big scale medical trials on a marketing the value change for them is changing and over time with that the contract will change. What should we know about vaccines and diseases right now . What are things under way right now . What are changes that youve had adopt to, including polio. In pole yes there are only three countries that have seen endemic disease and one of them nigeria has not seen it. Right now 85 of the cases are in pakistan. Thats a huge priority. Were hoping towards eradication. To do that were moving from an oral vaccine which is a live vaccine, and one of three types of polio has been gone since the 1,990th. Well move to a valiant and to do that we need an active polio vaccine. The challenge is that it has to be injected, and its more expensive. Were rolling that out in the 73 gavi countries in the end of this year until the end of this year. Thats a massive scale up. On ebola were going to see if these vaccines work. If they do, were committing to roll them out. Were moving to cancer vaccines. Liver cancer, cervical cancer, the largest killer of women in the developing world and were constantly looking for other diseases that can be vaccine prevented. 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