Boehner said he was going. The rights might, and and the future of the 114th congress, its inside story. Welcome to inside story. Im ray suarez. The crazies, the false prophets. Call them what you want. The right wing of the Republican Caucus claimed a major scalp. Kevin mccarthy who became a candidate. Hours after giving it up. Was out. In the midst of closed door, the californian, a member of the Leadership Team said im not going to do it. We are going to be strong, we have to be 100 united. I think, you know what. Lets put the conference first. We have been talking ive been talking with a number of members, ive been thinking about this, trying to thick if we can get there. Face. Representatives Mick Mulvaney of South Carolina concedes hes been called a members of the shut down caucus by colleagues that blame him for brinksmanship they believe hurt the republican party. He and his colleagues see the country, politics, the u. S. House in a different way from fellow republicans. They think the big republican majority didnt work its will in a way, got along to get along. They want it stopped and have gone to battle over making a leadership to do it. We have more on the republican freed am caucus. England closed doors, conservative members of the house are flexing their muscles. I think the washingtonian republicans betrayed them. Many lawmakers are part of a group called the Freedom Caucus. Described by Establishment Republicans as criesies. The hard core conservatives are demanding all candidates commit to fighting democrats harder than ever. I dont want to pledge, i want it on paper. Ethics is putting your principles on paper, ahead of time. The Freedom Caucus represents a slice of the 247 republicans notice house, that through social media, talk radio and outside organization, the group has amplified power. The republicans have a major city, but if a certain segment want to play ahead. Reporter earlier plans for Border Security was blocked. Members felt it was not tough enough. Last month the caucus tried to parenthood. People asked what is the speaker. Numbers played a pivotal role in ousting john boehner. Freedom caucus founder is from ohio. Analysts described jordan as stoic and determine. A guy that stands on principle. What john boehner said heap was sent to washington to do. He wants to accomplish a no compromise position, shut down the government if necessary, get people who are angry about to sense that they are doing something about it. The rights might. This time on the programme, lets begin with David Shuster in new york, and from capitol hill, al jazeeras Michael Shure. You were on the hill this morning, was there a precipitating event that happened in the caucus that gave a symbol. It was a confluence of a lot much things, whether they get 200 on the full congress, the calculations from that he could not. Some, Kevin Mccarthy saying that benghazi was a political ploy, you know, without using those words, a political committee, so as to get Hillary Clinton off of her wheels a little bit. It came down to the fact that there was a faction of the house that david talked about, the Freedom Caucus and other members that didnt want to vote for Kevin Mccarthy, because it would have been the same, they wanted conservativism in there and he didnt have the votes. Once mccarthy was in, there was for a while no one else running, he was the presumed favourite. Are there members that might like the chances and get in now that mccarthy has gone . Theres congressman webster and a couple of others that would be supported. Schaefer and webster are too conservative. Look for the establishment to find someone like paul ryan of wisconsin, who will come in, bring the establishment and ryan may get the ear of hardline conservatives. If theres anyone that can convince the Freedom Caucus and tea party why shutting down the government is a bad idea, it would be congressman paul ryan. That is not guaranteed. Keep in mind the hardline conservatives want the shut down, they believe it will prove to people that it will improve the position. What happens now, is it clear to members coming out of the caucus meeting what the next move is . I think the members that came out of the meeting, ones i spoke to and saw, it was just disarray. A lot of people were dumbfounded by this, totally unexpected, and they go back to the drawing board. John boehner issued a statement until they are able to choose a new speaker. David brought up paul ryan. And theyd get him to run and made it unequivocal that they do not want to run. He is something they could get behind. It really is the kind of thing where they have to step back and get back together and get as united as they can. That has been the challenge for six years. David, Speaker John Boehner said hell say on until a new speaker is chosen, but political junkies like yourself like to point out under the rules the next speaker doesnt have to be a member of the house of representatives, that is not likely to happen is it . No. Maybe you should be paying attention to what the former speaker said. There are people that have a that a lot of the caucus with reference outside the congress, but with a crop of conservatives, they are more conservative than the conservatives a couple of years ago. Im not sure that anyone can come in and keep them together on anything. Thats the problem, a 30 or 40 peel off, democrats will not support whoever is put forward as speaker. The republicans have to find a way to appeal and appease 30 or 40 hardliners, and the question is what will they give the conservatives to get them to go along with the choice, and that is something that can cause the government to shut down. If they come up with a compromise candidate of speaker, mite the heavy horse trading go on for other leaders. Thats what they are going to get to next. The presumption is if they agree upon a speaker, it will be that they agree on a slate. Thats the posture that a lot were taking this morning. You have to remember, a lot look at this as dysfunction. It is not a lose, not something that is seen as a bad thing. They see it as functional. As long as they are trying to stay in the way of nominating difficult. If theres a come promise, it will be made across the board, and theyll come up with a slate they are comfortable with. Its easy for me to say in and for them to say it to me. The doing of it never happened. Not in the last five or six years. A lot of members wonder how they can get to it. Al jazeeras Michael Shure and David Shuster thank you for starting us off what is the Freedom Caucus and the sympathetic brothers and sisters in the house wanted to do. If the new house has more members it likes, what would change about the daily business, goals, agenda, accomplishments of the chamber, if they werent happy with john boehner. What changes the rights might. Its inside story. Every saturday night. I lived that character. Go one on one with americas movers and shakers. We will be able to see change. Gripping. Inspiring. Entertaining. No topic off limits. cause im like, dad, there are hookers in this house. Exclusive conversations you wont find anywhere else. These are very vivid, human stories. If you have an agenda with people, you sometimes dont see the truth. Talk to al jazeera. Saturday, 6 00 eastern. Only on al jazeera america. Welcome back to inside story, im ray suarez, as the Republican Caucus in the house of representatives began a process to choose a new Leadership Team, after the departure of Speaker John Boehner, we look at the far right side of the house that opposed the man that had been the leading candidate. Now that John Boehner DeputyKevin Mccarthy is out of the race, leadership is postponed and an orderly success doesnt look to orderly. Joining me, adam, from freedom works, a group fuelling the surge. Molly reynolds and Charles Chamberlain, executive director of democracy with america. The Freedom Caucus put out a release. The speaker needs to yield back power to the membership for the sake of institution and a country. You speak that language, what are they trying to say . What the people have not been following is what happened to the folks. Theyve been stripped from the committees, fundraising has been cut off. Opponents have been put and challenged. They have been beaten up. They have been denied. They cant to have lunch in the lunchroom. They have been in there. There are juvenile shenanigans. Is it in response to not playing ball with the speaker, which used to beurn heard of. This is it be unheard of. This is a different movement. These are republicans that back up the rhetoric with action. They are keeping campaign promises, they dont want to add to debt and deficit. It doesnt seem to be a case. Its a go along, get along, and they upset the apple cart. Did we see 40 members, 10 of the membership of the house of representatives grind one chamber of our National Legislature to a vote . I think we did. You know, going in to this morning, we thought wed see a nominee come out of the meeting at noon. That didnt happen. Now we are trying to figure out what is going to where we are going to go from here, who the next nominee will be, and when well get a vote on the floor. Often there are sloppy wrestling matches, this is not unheard of. There was the year of free speakers. It is not always neat and tidy, this seems unusual. Kevin mccarthy, it looks like, was sure sure he wasnt going get to 218, wasnt going to appeal to enough of the caucus members to win. I think its right. It will be interesting where we go from here. Theres a lot of conflict. It will be interesting as to what the speaker nominee will have to concede to to get to 18 on the floor. Theres 180 or so members they are not mannikins from Department Store window. What do they do . As a progressive i feel like i want to get out a bag of popcorn. We see a party imploding. If Ronald Reagan was up to be speaker of the house, i am sure they wouldnt be able to confirm them. These guys are extremists, and that is how to shut down the government. Whether its over obama care, planned parenthood or whether they have a seat in the cafeteria. All that matters is that they stop the government and shut it down. Thats where they got the nickname, the shut down caucus. They are proving that this is about politics. Before you sit with popcorn, do you have to be careful what you wish for. Is the next speaker someone that wants to consult less than previous speakers . Theres no question whoever we end up with here will be terrible for america. What is exciting, we watch day after day disarray and see a party that cant get along. What voters across america see, they see the capital going awry, and its a long shot for the democrats to take back the house in 2016. Every day they are in disarray, making fools of themselves, it increases chances that we can take back the house. Adam. I am sure you disagree with that. The president struggled to keep his job Approval Ratings at the same level. Congress would love to get post. If a tougher combative leadership comes out of the process, is that a good look for the g. O. P. As it gets deeper into the campaign to take back the white house. The rights might. Its inside story. Welcome back to inside story. Im ray suarez. The rights might this time on the programme. Kevin mccarthy is out of the race to be the next speaker of the house. David shaffer and daniel from florida are in the race. A Group Calling itself the freed am caucus have been critical of john boehner, saying that they were locked out of leadership and influence. They wanted it change. Does it work if they get what they want. For four months from the iowa caucuses. Adam brandon, Molly Reynolds and Charles Chamberlain are with me in washington. We saw in gix that democrats could leverage an unpopular white house against the congress. Could we see the flipside of that where president ial congress. The first i want to say in response is i hear a rumour that the caucus wants to shut the government down. Im talking to members multiple times in a day. And i never hear anything. In fact, we know that theres a debt ceiling increase, i believe the date will be november 5th. What we fight for is the way its worked on november 4th, therell be a bill put in front of tem. Its sign the bill now, or streets. That is what they are trying to stop. Problem. There are members that are philosophically against raising the debt ceiling. Usually they say if they are going to vote to raise the debt ceiling, we have to make sure theres constructional reforms again. What about an unpopular majority of republicans hurts house. I think the majorities are unpopular, you have a majority in the house and senate lets see legislation come out. What do you make of the prospects for the coming year. Politics will be played. The country has well. I talk about the ideas every day it goes on, its better for democrats. The sad fact is its not better for america. It happens and we cannot get anything done. In a congress that is about rhetoric. Administration that is trying to make things happen. What is amazing is the number of things that obama managed to get through. That is what they are upset about. These guys may be good at campaigning. When you govern, that means compromise. Its possible to compromise your principles. All that matters is get what they want. Like a baby. This we dont get it, well shut it down. It cant be good news for the senate Leadership Team. Its not, not for a number of reasons. One, Mitch Mcconnells majority in the senate is constructed differently to the majority in the house. There are 24 seats up for reelection next fall. If Mitch Mcconnell wants to keep the majority senate. He has to defend the seats, theres 10 democratic seats up for reelection. Thats a problem that he faces. A second problem, getting his counterparts to internalize the fact that the rules for the senate means for most things, a filibuster in the senate is not going anywhere. Its been around for a long time. We have heard calls in recent days from senator and house members. It may be time to revisit the rule. For now, we have the filibuster, and that will keep democratic voices is on the senate side in the conversation because of way the institution. You mentioned real policies that they say people have, but they want to be in the majority when the spoke clears in 2017, and people like kelly, who ran in a republican year, but have to defend in a president ial year when the shape of the electorate is different. Are they going to start putting pressure on the house. Help me out here . The fundamental change is we dont talk a lot of politics and principle. These folks, a lot come here, do something big, go home and get out of washington. They are trying to get a seat at the table. It is messy. Democracy. Who are you liking for the next speaker . There are new folks getting into the race. You know that to be the case now that Kevin Mccarthy is out. Theres a lot of people. A lot of big names turned down the opportunity. People said run for speaker, pleas, and they ruled themselves out. Do people not want that. If you are a paul ryan, handling taking this job. It would be app disaster. Currently he plays as if hes presentedly with the tea party, but hes friendly with the establishment. Once hes in leadership, its a loselose situation. He recognises his career would be at. He wants to run or speaker one day thank you to everyone for joining us. Ill be back in a moment with a final thought on the splits and stay with us, its inside story. Were in the prairie state yet we have such little of it left. Now oldschool methods meet cuttingedge science. Weve returned this iconic mammal to illinois. With a much bigger longterm benefit. Grasslands have a Critical Role in climate change. Its exciting. Techknows team of experts show you how the miracles of science. This is what innovation looks like. Can affect and surprise us. I feel like were making an impact. Awesome techknow where Technology Meets humanity. The only way to get better is to challenge yourself, and thats what were doing at xfinity. We are challenging ourselves to improve every aspect of your experience. 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That john boehner left frustrated and tired with a large republican majority in the history of of congress should tell you something. Politics aint bean bag. We know that. Talk to present day members that have been shown the door by the voters, and you hear a weariness with posturing, going for people on both sides of the aisle. The permanent government that people love to hate earn the distain of voters, stories of members running on autopilot and win. That world of 30 and 40 year members is not so much of a problem. Much of the house membership now has been in for a small number of terms. Refusing to finish appropriation bills, holding up votes over nonrelated legislation or unrelated amendments, letting deadlines pass or the government shutdown, it doesnt look smart or functional. On the edge of a large number of crucial debates and votes in the coming weeks. Watch closely, see what the house manages to do. Then wonder that anyone wants to be speaker of the house. 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