Government forces retreating after facing heavy fighting. Iraqi forces are trying to recapture areas claimed by the Islamic State. Why isnt more money put into research to find the causes of autism. I feel im failing as a mother. Theres a huge autism tsunami hitting the stage budget. Cody calafiore is taking california is taking drastic measures to lift the state out of drought. Anyone hosing down driveways or keeping fountains running could be fined 500 a day. There are pockets of extreme depravation where they are out of water and jobs. Syrias president Bashar Alassad walked the red carpet receiving an enthusiastic reception an a swearing in ceremo ceremony, marking the start of a third term. He refused to character es the conflict in his country has a civil war. Its killed tens of thousandsers displaced millions. And now recruiting foreign fighters. Iraq struggles to form a new government. The Islamic State formerly i. S. I. L. , continues to gain ground with a social media campaign. Brian joins me, counterintelligence research and former director of research at west point. Good to have you here. Syria urges western countries to end their support for the rebels and focus on defeating the Islamic State group. Obama and others sounded the alarm about how concerned they are about western recruitment. This is an example. I was like any other regular canadian. I watched hockey, went to the cottage in summer. Fished, hunted. I liked out doors, i had money, sports, family and good friends. I had colleagues. Its not like i was a social outcast, wasnt like i was an anarchist or somebody that wanted to destroy the world and kill anyone. I was a good person. You know, mujahideen are regular people. Thats andre. He was a 24yearold canadian who left to fight in syria. He appeals to brothers saying moou handlinga dean are regular people. Is he appealing to the french or the main stream. When you look at terrorists, one of the shocking things about them is they seem like regular people, until they decide to do something violent. Its not just jihadis. They didnt join the Islamic State in syria and iraq. So you know, that framing is not all that surprising. Clearly that is a propaganda video designed to attract other westerners. Folks in western europe. English speakers. That might be tempted to go join, you know, i. S. I. L. Or the Islamic State as they calm themselves. What hes trying to do is basically say look, its okay, even if you dont have training are are not prepared for this environment, i made the leap and you can as well. Unfortunately that is going to hes going to have success with that. Just to be fair, the person on the tape, he wasnt a normal or nice guys, he was arrested twice and tried to learn about bomb making. This is something you see with other folks that have joined jihadi organizations, they dabble, looking at an arkists and others. Its not that surprising theres something surprising that when people are drawn to the violent groups, there are two people, one they are attracted to an ideology, they are rejecting the social norms that they are in. Sometimes you see them bounce from one counterculture ideology to another. Thats the case here. You have been following this since 9 11. How does it refer to al qaeda, they posted 40,000 troops as they took mosul. The secondlargest city. Are they more sophisticated. I think the general outlines of the way that these sorts of organizations use social media changed as technology changed. After the invasion of iraq, with the ability to upload large amounts of video, you saw video posted rather than tem online. From there theres a move to foreign websites, where they are back and forth between the organizations and their followers. And with the civil war in syria, it came at a time where twitter and facebook really this taken off. And that is what you see the Islamic State and other militant organizations in syria releasing material through the vectors. What happens there, and what is interesting is that that gives potential followers direct access to people that are on the ground. And, you know, whether its recruitment to any organization, whether its a you know, green peace or, you know, to be a red cross volunteer or to go to iraq to fight, the way you recruit people is to have someone that has been there, done it, stand up and say i was like you, you should join me. You mention on the ground in iraq. Islamic state Group Fighters control large areas in iraq and repelled efforts by the Iraqi Military to take back territory. They are trying to get the home town of tikrit back, and they failed. This goes on as iraq struggles to form a new government. Is i. S. I. L. Gaining power. Yes and no. On the one hand the coalition of sunni groups that has aligned with the Islamic State is entrenching nz the north and west of iraq. The longer that there is a stalemate, the more therell be tensions in the coalition that the Islamic State aligned with. And many groups, whether tribal or other militant networks formed out of military officers, they will not put up with the extreme understanding of sharia for long. The coalition will crack eventually. Both of us should feel honoured or scared. We have been controlled by the Islamic State group. They targeted me. After a show we did earlier, where we talked about glens latest report about the n. S. A. Surveying leaders, i tweeted about that, and they responded with a tweet saying one of your quotes was featured in an i. S. I. S. Congrats on that, i guess. They are paying attention to what is said about them. The question is for what purpose recruitment. Intimidation. At least they called me brother, so im probably coming out better than you. I was called an enemy crusader. It doesnt get better than you. I think what it shows in these cases is that these folks say they dont care about having an external validation. Its not true. They do want the external validation, and from folks with credentials like mine. The reason they quoted me and my coauthor is we basically said these guys are getting stronger, they are a power in the middle east and we have to deal with them. I. S. I. S. Is saying even the bad guys, reversing to me, believe we are powerful. And its that that they are trying to use to recruit. Its the spectre of them having success on the ground that i think is most dangerous here. The theo logical justifications are weak. Theyve been attacked on those by a huge spectrum of the Muslim Community around the world. What they rest on is that they are advancing on the ground. They have power. Brian, keep tweeting safely. Great talking to you. Good to talk to you. We turn to a threat between a link up between al qaeda and yemen and the Islamic State. They are collaborating with yemeni bombmakers to build explosive device that is can be placed on a laptop, cell phone and carried on a jet plane. Attorneygeneral told the news i think we are at an attention time. Its more frightening than anything i think we have seen. People with the technical know how and people that have a fervor to give their lives in support of a cause directed at the United States, and directed at its allies, and its sl that gives us something that gives us extreme concern. Tim joins me from washington d. C. , a former fbi agent, someone who has conducted counterterrorism investigations in the north and south american. Hes president of a mission. Attorney general eric holder says its a dangerous time. Do you agree. Absolutely, no question. It situation now al qaeda is in the Arabian Peninsula. There are several hundred since 2009. When you add in al qaeda in iraq, i. S. I. S. , Islamic State in iraq and syria. You have very, very well trained and hardened fighters with incredible hardware. To take the technology and know how and expand it around the western world with the capabilities that aqab is sadding to the picture, secretive bomb making, things secreted in bomb devices. One of the reasons we had the threat, so these this mixing of the smaller Ideological Group in the Arabian Peninsula, and this warfighting machine in iraq and syria is a terrible threat. The george w. Bush was criticised for failing to heed warnings, and the intelligence chief, of an impending attack two months before 9 11. Are attorney general eric holders warnings as concerning as that or should we not get into the hyperbollizing or fear mongering of. The attorneygeneral is saying what hes saying for a reason. Hes privy to a great deal of intelligence that streams through his office. For him to come out publicly and say what he sis, theres room for concern. The issue that i. S. I. S. Has is that they are prooccupied taking over territory in iraq. They want the region, and i believe theyll march on the border of jordan or saudi arabia next. They are preoccupied. They are not looking to push the influence outside that area. Longterm they would be. I dont know if that means a month or 10 years. The threat is real. What the timetable is i dont think anybody has that intelligence just yet. You mentioned syria. Attorneygeneral holder was having a meeting with european ministers and said the primary focus was 7,000 foreign fighters in syria and iraq and have e. U. And american passports and can travel with impunity. Do we need to track all these people to feel and stay secure . I think we have to. If theres a lesson, the 19 hijackers, coming under student visas and other programs violating videosa and rules and recommendation, staying behind the visas and immigration status that they had, if any, if we dont look at the people with passports that travel in the west. If we dont look at them, they are foreign fighters trained in a ses poll of fillisation. What is civilisation what is going on in i. S. I. S. , with the rapes and sexual jihad in mosul and torturing and killing people that disagree or dont join them. Thats not something we can mitigate. Its not something you can tolerate. This is an ideology that believes women should be subrogated and western regions is haram. We have 7,000 fighters going to syria, we have the Islamic State group in iraq, boko haram, the threat but do we have the resources as a nation to tackle it. We have the resources. Whether we want to delegate to this cause is a different story. People have seen the number of years that passed. We are back to a september 10th mentality. We need to realise that the threat never subsided. It has existed and slowly grown up again. The president a couple of years ago was saying al qaeda was on the run. But al qaeda is not the only islamist Extremist Group that dislikes or targets the west of the. Islamic state group acquired Nuclear Material from a science lab in mosul. Could material like that be used in a dirty bomb and could it be smuggled on board a plane . To answer the first part of that question. Absolutely. We are not talking about highly enriched uranium. It was a lower level, 2 35 or Something Else taken from a lab. It could have been medical isotopes. We dont know if they took over hospitals and theres radiation samples that they co is taken. The threat of a dirty bomb is ream. Its taking a raid logical element, an isotope and dispersing it with a conventional explosive. Whether they get it on to a plane, im not sure. There are detectors in most we were airports, and the level of explosive, you need a large quantity. But, the last story you discussed about the border if we have that open a border, where tens of thousands of people cross every week, what is to prevent these individuals taking a dirty bomb or the elements cross the border. Airports and governments have been alerted to the possibility of an airborne attack. How much more difficult does it make for alqaeda are and the arabian opinio arabi Arabian Peninsula to pull it off. It doesnt harden their intention. It may reroute their plans. If they wanted to come in and attack using an airline, its difficult. If theres ipp tell or word init will or word leaked for assets or signals intelligence, we react like t. S. A. Did, where they asked counterparts around the world to monitor closely Electronic Devices coming in, making sure they were operational and not dummied up, filled with explosives. If we shut down that avenue, it doesnt mean the intentions epd. The bad guys maybe will go to a thirdworld airword where security is not as good or try some other means to quote inside the United States or find another airline. Thank you for your time. Consider this will be right back. 15 stories, 1 incredible journey in this envelope is my life right now. Edge of eighteen coming september only on Al Jazeera America pressure builds for ways to stop several hundred minors crossesle border. And solutions for the tens of thousands here. President obama met with members of the hispanic caucus. I talk to a someone part of that meeting with the president. The president says hes willing to see congress modify the law so the kids can be sent home quickly. Minority leader nancy pelosi reversed her position. What did the caucus say . We let the president know the law of 2008 is balanced enough when it comes to the Central American countries that the kids are coming from. And expediting the process is okay. At the same time it needs to be fair, and the children need representation, and they need an opportunity not to be intimidated, but to just explain the truth. Thats what they deserve and what the 2008 law provides. Were you surprised that a democrat signed to your prospective bill stripping legal applications from the migrant kids . Yes, i was a little surprised. At the same time hes one person, and the hispanic caucus is 20 plus strong. The rest of the members are united and in equal thought about making sure the children get a fair and the due process is fair, and whether or not it can be extradite, well need more resources. The young people need an opportunity to explain the situation they are in, and some of them are fleeing for their lives. Some witnessed wraps and deaths. Some of them, themselves, have been raped whether in their country or on their journey in the United Statesment these human beings, children, deserve an opportunity to explain. If Asylum Seekers is asylum is granted it will be with good reason. You wrote an op ed where you called it a refugee crisis clouded by a leadership crisis. Whose leader this is failing . Speaker john boehner in the house that im a member of. Im proud to be a congressman, but i have never been in a functional environment as the house im in now. The Senate Passed an Immigration Reform bill over a year ago. It had 14 republican votes. Its important for us to understand that that is true bipartisan work. Its not perfect, but its the work that elected bodies were elected to do. We have a great democracy, and the house im in is acting in a dysfunctional fashion, and the failure of leadership is on the speakers soldiers. A lot of latinos are saying the failure is on president Barack Obamas soldiers. He has failed on the crisis. He is not making major moves. What do you say about that . We met the hispanic caucus met with the president and promised around this time in july, if the congress had not acted, that he would use the power of his authority and the pen to do what he condition. And thats what we talked about, and he made a commitment that he would sharpen the pen and go ahead and meet with us again over the next few days, and shortly there after hell take unilateral actions. If these unaccompanied kids are allowed to stay here. Theres 57,000 that came this year. Some say therell be 90,000. Should they be cabin a path to citizenship each though they entered the country illegally. They should be given a path to citizenship if they are refugees, and they can prove and explain the horrendous conditions that they fled. Thats why they came. They have the right to explain themselves, we have the responsibility to follow the law. They came in a technicality breaking the law, but at the same time from a humanitarian Vantage Point and spirit, they did nothing wrong. They fled for their lives, they are hear now. We have a responsibility to care for them like the human being that they are, and make sure they have a due process to explain why they came, and the children here fled for their lives, they have rah right to seek asylum, and we have a responsibility to grant them that. Do you expect the issue to come to a vet next week . I hope and pray it comes to a vote. It has to do with the resources that the president said that they need. Certainly when you have this kind of influx over 50,000, just in the last eight months. Before there was less than afl half that in any 12 month appeared. You are looking at a crisis where the president was given resources, helping human service, and all the other resources they need the resources to dole with this quickly and give the children the environment that human being deserve. Thank you for joining us. Switching topics from the border to a new documentary on what is described as an autism epidemic. Tuesday on netflix and itunes and amazon prime. Its called sounding the alarm, it does just that. We want our child to say i love you, not become a rode scholar at harvard. In a period of 34 months he lost everything of. There is a huge autism tsunami that will hit the state budget, if they dont take steps to ensure the kids are getting treatment. They might have to cut support and services to the folks that need it the mox. The fact that the most. The fact we have to move to receive the right to be covered by Health Insurance is wrong. I feel like im failing as a mother. But theres positive stories in sounding the alarm, including a familys decision to start a business to give their autistic son and others with autism a chaps to leave the bet rooms and adult programs and go to work. Im joined by the cofounder and coo of rising tide car wash, cofounded with his father john to provide work for his autistic brother andrew and other with autism. Thomas, when did you know andrew had autism and how serious was his case . My family learnt andrew had autism when he was upped 3. We were from under three years old. We were from new york and heard from a local teacher, ph. D. Student helped us to go through the early intervention, and andrew had a relatively mild case of autism. You considered him, no, the spectrum didnt have behaviours, he had a lot of behaviours when younger. Iq wise, cognitively hes around a 70. Everywhere loved the idea of rising car tide wash. We watched the clips, did the research. A fantastic programme. How did you get the idea to start the car wash to give andrew and others with autism a chance to work . It was my dads idea. We saw there wasnt a whole lot of opportunity for andrew. The programme it isnt seem there would be a potential for him to find a job. My dad had the idea that andrew could work at a car watch. We took a step back and realised it was not an issue of ability. A lot of people with autism have great ability to follow processes. We Found Society looks at it as a disability. With that in mind we wanted to take a consumer approach and wanted to build a business that we could tell the story and build a brand that we could invite people to be a part of. Thats how rising tide was formed. Car watch is a cuctive business. Its community orgent oriented. And most of the customers are in the local area. The film sounding the alarm, has a wonderful clip showing andrew working at the car wash. Well play a part. I was an inspiration of the flash. Is that right of. Thats right. How does that make you feel. I feel hope. What do you think. Water spots, get them off. Did you finish the tyres . Yes. What is next. The vacuum. Lets go shaun. Me and thomas run the business. Thomas is andrews older brother. He has it perfect, what i got to give him instructions for. Andrew is doing a great job. What is it like to work with your brother andrew like this every day. Its incredible. Before doing this, most siblings with a Family Member with autism attests to, its hard to have a normal relationship with a sibling with autism. It was no different to me. I struggled to connect with my brother. What this has done is it created a normal relationship. Im andrews boss. Normally hell roll his eyes like any other little brother that was told by his older brother to do something might. We are starting to have a new life some time and we are seeing amazing improvements in his selfconfidence. Its been super inspiring. Can rising tide car wash provide sa future for andrew and other young people with autism that you employ . Yes, our goal is to provide Career Opportunities for people with autism. Andrew is a great example of the type of person that would have a long term career with rising tide. He can follow structured tasks, move forward in the organization and earn a living wage. Very folks that are at the aspergers level or high functioning, where this is a great first job opportunity, an opportunity to teach them what it means to be a good employee, how to navigate social complex dynamics, and given the job and reference where they can achieve things closely aligned with life goals. Great initiative. Thank you for your time. Great, thank you, its a pleasure. Well be back with more of consider this. If you want free press in the new democracy, let the journalists live. Now available, the new al jazeea america mobile news app. Get our exclusive in depth, reporting when you want it. A global perspective wherever you are. The major headlines in context. Mashable says. Youll never miss the latest news they will continue looking for survivors. The potential for Energy Production is huge. No noise, no clutter, just real reporting. The new Al Jazeera America mobile app, available for your apple and android mobile device. Download it now are social media stocks another bubble. Fed chief janet yellen gave an ear yes warning, coming in the fed annual monetary report . Not to friendly to facebook and twitter. They felt the effects after her comment. Lets bring in polly. And we are joined by social media producer harmeli aregawi. Lets go to the money. What has been the impact on the market following janets comments. Everything went into the red. Y, lp fell. Everything was going into the red, and stocks closed for the day. This was an immediate impasse, it wasnt close to anything we have seen in the pass. It had a distinct impact. Stocks go up, stocks go down. Facebook is doing better than initially when it came out. Twitter is getting there. Why is she saying they are stretched. Do you believe they are overvalued . We need to look at privately Held Companies that the Public Companies are purchasing. Facebook may not be overvalued. It has fallen from 69. They purchased whats up for 19 billion and are yet to return the profit. Thats where we look at the o r overstretching. The privately Held Companies, that Public Companies are investing in. Harmeli aregawi, what have you seen. Wednesday treasury secretary jack lew asked if it was appropriate for the head of the fed if it was appropriate for her to comment on the stocks. I think it is appropriate for us to comment on policy and friends, not on individual market movements. Polly, how do you interpret lieus comments. What hes getting to is the 1996 comment which we heard. In that he said irrational exuberance. That was a quote. With that shes doing something similar, not putting out facebook and twitter. Shes looking at the market as a whole. For her, in her position, social Media Companies are broad. She may a company with sn intense presence in with the facebook and the twitters, companies on social media. Shes speaking about a trend, not a specific country. That would be appropriate. What about the fact that social media is a relatively new industry, according to estimates from a research firm. Social media and revenue will triple. Does valuation account for participation. It does act for a participation. And for a lot of people they are looking at the ad dollars, the new customers, for her she has to look at profits in real time. Whim people might join, they may fall off. If you look at my space, they adjusted for profits. They were booming and great. They have to look at Market Trends in the past, and how it will change over time. We have seen a lot of spin from social media confinements. A lot are refineded of Alan Greenspans quote that many thought was about the. Com bloom. It was tweeted what are the social media giants saying . Its a good argument that they are making saying look, we are going to change and adapt, and well be as big as banks. Right now we are small. They are growing more rapidly than the tweet shows. They say we are not the banks and tech, but they are growing rapidly. Last year we had 39 biotech companies, the year before, 12. While she said small, its not that small and its boom k, its the biggest growth spurt. You said booming, do we fear a social media burst, the bubble will burst, or is this still hiperbally. Its hype eshally. We are not seeing anything on the cusp. Five years passed before the. Com bubble went into effect. Its something to remember. Shes not saying pull out your stock. She is saying this is something for us to be aware of and the Companies Need to take this as a warning that they need to show the profits, and argue why they are worth the 19 million. Thank you for joining us. California is in the midst of a drought of unprecedented skill. Now in its third year the drought is the expected to cost the economy 2. 2 billion in 2014. Meaning the Agricultural Sector scientists fear the drought will continue for a year. How will that impact the rest of the United States across the country. Joining us now from sacramento is timothy quinn. He served as the executive director. Tim, i was born and raised in california. Look, we are no strangers to droughts. Water restrictions, brown lawns, green painted. This is common. How bad is this drought compared to what we have seen in the past . Its unprecedented. Last year was the driest year on record. This year the third driest year. This is the third year of this drought. Our economy has grown, reservoirs are nearing empty. We are heavily regulated. This is my third drought. I have certainly never seep to this bad. Seen to this bad. I dont think it has been this bad. This is un depth. A unprecedented. The drought will cost more than 2 billion, coming from the Agricultural Sector. California grows a huge amount of food. How will this affect food prices throughout the country in. Not a lot. In the future if it gets worse, it will have an impact. It grows 7080 of many of the fruits and ven table that the americans consume. Farmers in the central valley, one of the most productive agricultural regions, it would be worse, except they are turning heavily to groundwater. They lost supplies, turning back to pump five feet. The groundwater runs out. They cant do that. If we have a dry year, it will be worse for california agriculture and for the American Consumer of food. Experts are saying the droughts impact on groundwater is a slowmoving train wreck. Why should we be concerned. In california we need to be concerned because the groundwater is a life line for the future. We use a lot of surface water and groundwater. The drought did not create a groundwater crisis in california, but it made it worse. We are dealing with a drought of surface supplies, and we have crisis conditions in the groundwater basin and we are working on that issue. There has been a response that the state Water Resources control board approved of an unprecedented measure allowing officials to find people up to 500 per day for wasting water. Too harsh or totally necessary. We believe its totally necessary. By the way, its stronger than what you sud. They are ordering local urban agencies of a certain size throughout california to impose mandates on the waste water during a drought like this. It flat shouldnt be ug a hose to using a hose to sweep the driveway, use a broom. They are requiring water suppliers to ipp voke mandatory invoke mandatory actions. I think this is going to galvanise the California Public the way we need to galvanise them. Its a serious situation. They have not gotten it yet. The state Water Resources is going to force everyone to take the route more seriously. In january governor jerry brown calls on residence to cut water usage. Water usage has gone up by 1 what can be done to ensent vis people to use less water. Its unprecedented what happened. I want to emphasise if you look at the data. Earlier this year we were just bombing aware, and water use was not responding. They know that they have a serious problem. And water use here is down by 13 compared to the last couple of years. What we are looking for mere is more and more californians to become aware of how serious this drought emergency is. They will. With every urban water supplier they are quoting mandatory reductions, californians are about to get it. When they get it they save water. My wife and i have been doing navy shores, not flushing the toilet and have a brain lawn. By the time we get to august, a great many calve jans will do the same thing. You cant expect people to not flush the toilet. But a lot of communities have been praying for rain. Some have expected rain. Will that help to alleviate the drought . We hope well get a good rain. Some el ninos are wet, some dry. I believe in the max um hope for the best. Plan for the worst. Timothy quinn, lets pray for rain. Thank you for your type of. Thank you very much. Consider this will be right back. You and your friends may have great chemistry, do you pick them based on science. Researchers from yale and u. C. Yale found friends have more d. N. A. In common with each other than strangers. They studied 2,000 people. Their works suggest friends share the same genetics as fourth cousins. If you didnt know, thats a relation though your great, great, great grandparent. Lets go deeper with benjamin in austin texas, a Research Associate at the research of colorados behavioural science. People say their friends are like their family, how does that how does the reach back that up. So these researchers took a database, and there is an extensive measure of the genome. Several hundreds of thousands of the makeup. Researchers look the at pat respects, creating a measure that with any two respondents you can compare how similar they are. You can say friends are more similar than nonfriends. Researchers found the most similarities existed in peoples genes handling the sense of small. Are friend drawn to similar smells. If so, why and how . You know, i think that honestly i dont think anyone can answer that question. Its a preliminary finding. Their hypothesis about pheromones and this could be related to food and the preparation of food and how they are important biological defenses we have. But i think thats probably a pretty early finding. I dont think we should worry about that one. The interesting part of the study found that human ef lugs sped up over the past 30,000 years. Is our social environment really an evolutionary force . Thats an interesting conjecture. I think theres a lot of i feel like everyone will agree that life seems faster and the pace of life sped up. Whether it you want to extrapolate from there to the idea that evolution is speeding up, its a tougher cell. The researchers make convincing arguments that it may be the case. We talked about the similarities in genes affecting the assistance of smell. What sense of smell. What we found is it holds true for genes containing immunity. Explain that. Theres science that suggests that people can be amino compatible. Differences in the immune system can be beneficial. That you can buy the benefits of two different immune systems and get the advantages of both. You know, the study some people on social media tweet at us saying is the study offering on excuse as to why people dont mingle with those diverse and only stay with their own ethnic community. Yes, its important that people know thats not the case. The study is conducted in an ethnically homogenious sample. Its white respondents, done for technical limitations, there are technical difficulties working with diverse data sets, leave researchers to use with ethnic homogenius data sets, its not the case that the researchers are not cueing we have a proceed set of friends. This raises red flags for the findings, is it too limited in scope. If it is limited. We should be careful been extrapolating the findings based on 7 billion people that live on the arth. Theres no reason to think this may exist, the finding may hold true in all places. Its not a representative dataset. It may not hold true in all of the u. S. What is compelling is they do an interesting thing where they replicate the finding within the data they have. Its a scientific argument as to why there may be something there. Your research that people tend to chooses spouses in relation to dna. Do they have kind of the same goons . Theres an echo. It will be interesting to look at whether of the genetic pathways through which we seem to select friends influences our mate selection. That could be a fruitful line of research. You may be smarter. Thanks for your time. Well be right back with more consider this. The news, go deeper and get more perspectives on every issue. Al jazeera america. Our next guest a true power player on tv, the president on scandal, now hes running a show with a look at the Justice System. Goldman is a Creative Force behind the divide. Antonio mora sat with tony, lets check out a clip. Movie reel get out of here, stay out of this and stay away from my mother. D. N. A. Sample will take less than 20 scans seconds. What do you care . I dont know you at all. You want to die, thats your right. I dont like it when the law is manipulated by people who think the law can be manipulated. Like my father. Tony goldman is the creator, executive producer and directing a bump of the episodes. You know him best on scandal. Great to see you. Good to see you. You are a busy guys, president of the United States part of the time. You just got reelected. Ism thank you. I played a nasty character recently. You played bad characters. It was disturbing. I find dark people interesting. So you are not a typical scary guy. Thats why its interesting to cast me in those parts, to find the opposite facets of very twisted characters. You are involved in a new show, the first scripted show. Watched the first episode. Terrific. Its based on the Innocence Project, founded by barry and peter new field. Which did an incredible job at freeing people using d. N. A. Why did you decide this was something you wanted to do. Why did you want to fok on the issue . I made a film in 2010 conviction, that i directed. With hillary swanking. It was a true story. A man spent 18 years in prison for a crime she didnt commit. His sister became an attorney to get him out. With the innocent broent and d. N. A. Evidence she got him exonerated after 18 years. I got close to her and barry and pete. I was fascinated with the innocent project and moved by the work they do in every story of all their cases and thought these stories need to get out. I wanted to shine a light on the work they are doing. But just they are so dramatic. At the end of the day, what i do for a living is to try to tell great stories. The bonus is when you shine the light on a social issue like reforming the Justice System. Full of great stories. Yes. The divide has shades of conviction. Again, you are involved with the Innocence Project actively. I support them as much as i can. And involved by telling stories like divide, and convection, theres artists and john grisham and i are on the committee. I read they are getting 3,000 calls, they have a 6,000plus backlog of cases and d. N. A. Has been ipp cred ubley effect incredibly effective it is exionerating a number of people. I dont know if you saw a study by the National Academy of sciences, they did a Detailed Analysis and forgive me if the numbers are wrong, but 1015 of people incarcerated are innocent, and on death row the number is 4 or 5 . Thats a lot of people. People falling though the cracks. The Innocence Project in addition to exonerating people on d. N. A. Evidence is making barry and peter and and their connected organizations are doing a lot to reform the cracks in the Justice System so people dont go to gaol wrongly. They are treeing a lot of those people and in many of those cases they are taking the d. N. A. , convicting people who were the criminals, its a double positive. This happened in louisiana. A guy was freed. Prosecutors agreed to retest dna evidence after 17 years on a rape charge, an attempted rape, and they found that he was innocent, they pointed through the d. N. A. Database, which the incident project helped happen nationally. They found the guy who did do it, and was, in fact, in prison for another crime. So the divide is not just a legal tv series, you are focussing on the characters and how the system affects the people. What the show is really about is it centers on one case, where the da of philadelphia made his career on a racially charged capital murder case and just as one of the two guys in prison are about to be executed a young woman from the innocent project uncovers a piece of evidence that unravels the whole thing. What we look at is the way that a crime destabilizes and derails the lives of so many people involved. The da, his family, reputation, this young woman, her stab, the surviving victims, the innocent convict. And all the grey areas they are in with is another pol emmic. Its look at the grey areas, and it extends to nugsal morality and personal morality how we look at this. Its compelling. It draws you in. Its successful. We have to talk to you about being the president of the United States. You have always been involved politically. I know you were a president of the creative coalition. And thats something you have been interested in. This led you to be more involved in washington politics and met the president of the United States. Fascinating. Ive been a political jurpingy, had been to washington and played many parts in the white house. Ive ben a chief of staff, press secretly, special advisor to the president. Now i get to be the man himself. So then, yes, this year at the White House Correspondent dinner i had the privilege of meeting approximately barack obama. It was sure reel. How was the experience. Surreal is the best way to describe it. You walk up to him. He says, hello mr , or going on a tour of the white house and people gone the president s here, and im looking around he is, they are talking about me. Congratulations on divide, and scandal. New episodes of divide premiere 9 00pm eastern. Thats outline for now. Check out our website aljazeera. Com considerthis, google , facebook and we are on twitter. See you next time. Nogales, arizona. A bus has arrived filled with people being deported from the United States. Right now were headed to san juan bosco, a shelter here in nogales where the mexican immigration authorities have picked the people who were just deported, they take them there so they have a place to stay on their first night back in mexico