Disturbing allegations against the regime in north key korea. Responsible for the crimes against humanity. Enslavement, rape, murder and torture. The venezuela president has ordered the expulsion of three u. S. Diplomats. This is coming as the country is entering the sixth day of protests. A huge setback for lay bar in the u. S. The volkswagon plant voted against joining the uaw. Our man jimmy fallon is taking over. We are bringing you the tonight show back to new york. It is a big night. We begin with a new report on quote unspeakable crimes in north korea and unprecedented warning from the u. N. The u. N. Investigators said that the leader and his Security Forces could face an International Trial for ordering widespread and gross Human Rights Violations and crimes against humanity based on state policies. Detailed in a new 372 page report, the chair of the u. N. Inquiry that wrote the report, compared the crimes to the nazis atrocities in world war two. Too many times in this building there are reports and no action, well, this is a time for action. We cant say didnt know. We know and anyone that wants to know can read the report. For more, im pleased to be joined by governor Bill Richardson a former new mexico governor and ambassador to the united nations. Thank you for being on the show. Thank you. We start by listening to Something Else that the chairperson had to say. At the end of the second world war, so many people said if only we had known, if only we had known the wrongs that were done in the countrys of the hostile forces. If only we had known that. Well now the International Community does know. Governor, now that we know, what are we going to do about it and is the u. N. Capable of action in this case . Well, first this is a very very strong report and the fact that the u. N. Documented these cases makes it more significant. We have had reports by human rights groups, by individuals of this kind of activity, now the fact that International Body with a prestige and power of the u. N. Now what happens next . That is the question. They have been sanctioned to death for the missiles and tests and so how do you punish it with sanctions . There are not many sanctions left. The problem practically is International Criminal court action has to be triggered by the u. N. Security council and examination, any war crimes charge, and there it looks like one of the five powers that can veto china would veto efforts if they felt this was against their interest. That is a potential veto by chee na while the United States, britain and france and possible russia, the other four powers with the veto power would want to push it. China is the key player. Once again as it pertains to north korea. You have to wonder if the alliance will hold with the charges in the report. This is horrific. Rape, murder, torture. A woman is made to drown her own baby, people tortured for watching a soap opera, children starved from birth,ing in the light of that, is this going to change anything . Well, north korea has not followed international norms. They are unpredictable. Possibly the new leader sees this and hes going to read it and perhaps there will be internal forces in north korea, moderate forces, in the military, in the political structure that say we are not going to get any assistance to the starving people, to our economy unless theres changes. Thats a limited but possible, possible course that might change things. I wouldnt count on it. But right now i think the best answer is some kind of engagement with their leader on this report and on the Nuclear Weapons reduction and on engaging with south korea and rekindling the Six Party Talks in reducing the tensions. Someone has to engage this guy, not dennis rodman. They have to moderate what is happening which is not good and we dont know about the new young leader and which direction hes going to go. On the one hand hes having human rights talk on reunification of families are south korea, maybe hes going to say im ready to talk and dialogue, hopefully that is going to happen. But their government totally rejected the accusations in the report and there are reference to the fact of hundreds of people in the north korea power structure that are war criminals and is there a danger of making them dig in further and not going to open and expose themselves to the war crime trials . There is that argument be a bunker mentality, but there already is and these guys are not talking to anybody and isolate themselves and they provoke other countries so it basically cant get any worse. My hope is that internally some of the military in north korea, the party structure, and perhaps kim will see it is time to change course. We are having a real, Real International outcry against us and maybe the time has come to negotiate on Nuclear Weapons, on the regime itself, on isolating ourselves a lot less than we have. This report might be a kindling. Im always an optimistic. It cant get worse. Going back to china, maybe a kindling there, china is named for aiding and abetting the crimes against humanity. Maybe the chinese getting involved in a more positive way . Yes, there is a chance. The chinese stopped the messages stopping the detonation of the Nuclear Devices and launching of missiles, stop the excuse, well they couldnt stop it but they are perturbed of what is happening. This behavior has to stop and the Chinese Government with this report and the pressing yur to do something might make the actions stronger than they have and maybe a slight change. But any slight change is welcome. A quick final question, over a year ago you went to north korea and try to arrange the release of kenneth bay, an american held there since november of 2012 and now sent to a labor camp and facing 15 years of hard labor and will this work make it worse for him . Hopefully, hopefully not, but it is unfortunate that the north korea is not treating him with the humanitarian act. They were supposed to turn him loose. That didnt happen because of the military altercations and maybe after this report cools down a little bit theyll see fit as a humanitarian gesture to let this korean american to return home to his family. Well, seeing the report and seeing hundreds of People Killed and camps ands a trosties, this is a horrifying thing to conceive of. Bill richardson thank you for being on the show. Thank you, thank you. Deadly protests have raised for close to a week in jenison after 15 years years of socialism, people are upset how an oil rich country has the violence and scarcity of the basic goods. We are joined by rachel from venezuela and rachel, you are in a center for the antigovernment protests and what is happening on the streets there tooed . Well, today there is a group of people marching to the ministry of communications and complaining that the government is censoring them here in venezuela and most of the media within the country is controlled by the government. So they feel they have been misrepresented. The government accused these student demonstrators of trying to overthrow the government and so today in the protests a lot of people coming out and basically denying the claims and denouncing the government and saying that it is continuing to sensor them. In fact, twitter itself said that they have been censored and twitter was blocked. I know that the government has control of all of the tv stations and media, as you said. They have also accused the United States of being involved in all of this and ordered the expulsion of three american diplomats. That is correct. On sunday, their president took to the air waves and said that he was going to expel three diplomats and accused of them meeting with the student organizers and providing them with visas and today with pressure is ratcheted up and the minister of Foreign Affairs said that those three had 48 hours to leave the country and the u. S. Is saying they denied the claims and they are not part of any movement or in contact with the groups that wish to overthrow the government so the Political Tension between venezuela and the United States has increased due to the protests that have started just under a week ago. Why is the venezuelian government focussed on the United States, is there a reason to blame the u. S. For any of this . Well, in fact, there has been evidence. There were wiki leaks that showed that the United States was involved with groups in venezuela that were hostile to the government. The United States has had a long history of being involved in latin america and supporting movements that they felt were contrary to the interests of the United States. So on one hand it is easy to dismiss this has paranoia, but there is a basis of the fact that the venezuelians are worried about the United States involvement but no proof is shown that any of the students were involved with trying to actually over throw the government or connected to the United States embassy, but the venezuelian government is very sensitive about this. The protests started because of inflation is highest in the world, and the crime rates are highest in the world and the central bank said a quarter of the time you cant get the basic goods, toilet paper to milk, how bad have things got in a very oil rich country . Inflation has been a problem in this country for the past several years and venezuela now has the highest inflation in the world and as you mentioned, a lot of times when you go to the market you cant get the things you need. Today i had to go and buy tennis shoes and if i were to pay the price of what the official exchange rate, those tennis shoes would cost 800, adidas, some you can get in the United States for 40. And the problem here in venezuela for everyone, that the cost of living is continuing to skyrocket, and an is a chief complaint among the people demonstrating and also the people supporting the government, it is a concern for them too, and the government said they are going to announce new plans to combat the rising inflation and help ease the economic pain, if you will, of venezuelians and we are awaiting for that announcement to come out. The tensions are high today because of large protests planned for tomorrow and the government threatened to arrest one of the main leaders of the opposition. Thats right. That leader is leo lopez and connected with the student protests and very open about what he and his spupporters wan. They are asking the government to leave. They want what they say sa a regime change. That is definitely taken by the venezuelian government as a threat to their power and accusing these people to overthrow the government and an arrest warrant issued for him last week. And on sunday, he sent out a video to his supporters calling for a mass demonstration on tuesday and saying that he would show up for the demonstration. Now if he does, the government may potentially decide to act on the threat and arrest him. So thats something that everyone here is going to be waiting and seeing tomorrow, a, if he shows up, and b, the governments response will be. Thank you for joining us. Coming up, a big car company encourages the workers to unionize and why the workers said no. One group is crying foul for being left out of a tabacco settlement. And what do you think, tell us on twitter at consider this or leave comments on facebook or google plus pages. Is the movement to yuanize the southern workers dying on the floor of the volkswagon plant and the work herbs voted against organizing with the uaw and volkswagon didnt oppose the yuanization. Is there hope for the unions to gain ground if they are not winning on the neutral ground and joining us the professor daniel cornfield from vanderbilt university. Thank you being on the show. Many are calling this a blow for the Union Movement and in this case volkswagon is open to, allowing the campaigning at the plant and how will any unions be able to compete if they have to actually go to other companies that are actually opposed . No doubt about it the result of the campaign was a set back for labor in the south and it was highly unusual because the employer, volkswagon, signed a neutrality agreement and saying they wouldnt interfere and the workers here decided they didnt want to have a union and thats even as the employer almost enkure enkurned the union. There was certainly a lot of activity going beyond a local battle, state and National Politicians and groups were involved. It was highly unusual the amount of outside political involvement in this campaign. The high ranking state officials here in tennessee and National Political forces strongly opposed the union and really delivered are usual message that an employer who would oppose unions would deliver and that is that unions jeopardize the job security and Economic Security of the workers and so almost like the Political Forces and politicians playing the role of the employer in a Typical Union election might oppose the union. That included senator bob from tennessee and is that the reason that the uaw is consider challenging the vote with the National LaborRelations Board that the politicians were saying that volkswagon is not going to expand and no more jobs if you vote in favor of the union . This is a highly unusual situation with the amount of political opposition at this high volume of political opposition existed there may not be a lot of precedent on the grounds that the union might have to challenge this, but certainly it might be a new area to ebbing expand into to see if the political opposition will hold. One of the major arguments against the unions is bringing up detroit and whats happened in detroit, conservatives blaming the citys collapse on the workers and look at what happened to the auto makers in detroit and they have struggled and they have shared the uaw. Is that a fair criticism . The detroit situation is so complex and to single out any one factor to why the u. S. Automobile industry may have suffered economically is probably very simplistic approach. In contrast, in tennessee, tennessee has a vibrant economy and even though the level of unions among the work force the relatively low here there are many very large corporations doing business in tennessee that have had a Union Forever and driving the economy, especially in the transport sector and it is doubtful aching the union to a Major Corporation would under mine the tennessee economy given that the tennessee economy is thriving with very large union companies. Some workers felt they didnt need the union, the average wage is 19 an hour and one of the workers said that we dont need the uaw to give us rights, we already have them. We already talk to the company if we have problems. Is that the issue that a lot of the companies are facing that the work conditions are actually pretty good at most of these plants . It is the case in any region of the United States the labor unions are having troubles organizing the unions in the large corporations. They are paying the union scale and provide union like Fringe Benefits to the workers in the absence of a union, in part to dissway the workers from yuan yuanizing all together and in that respect, this particular election is not surprising and would be unrelated to the southern location. Certainly an interesting vote given the history of the auto business. David, thank you for being on the show. Thank you. Switching topics now to americas bloody struggle in the broader middle east. The afghan war parallels to a 19th century war. Young Winston Churchhill served as a rother and military member. That story as been told by one of the most experienced foreign correspondents and joined here and defense editor for londons dally telegraph and author of churchhills first war. Thank you for having me here. You wrote about the war, and financely it is ruining us, it is on open question and politically is a blunder. Any chance a Young American officer out there now writing similar words . Well, i think anyone that served in afghanistan and looks at the book will see history repeating itself a little bit because clearly the campaign is complex, al qaeda didnt exist back then for example. But when you look at the way that the poll tickses conducted the come pain and the mess we are getting into as we are withdrawing by the end of the year and the possibility of the taliban coming back into power, clearly some people are going to argue that this militarily will end in a disaster. World powers getting into troubles in afghanistan over and over again over time. You are inspired to write the book by two american generals . Yes, in the current campaign, petraeus and crystal when running the nato drew up a program for defeating the taliban and when doing the research, what we are doing is what the brits did in the 19th century and by the way it is in a book. I thought the fact that modern generation of american generals were reading up on churchhills war there were parallels. The local tribes were known as talibans. Church was fighting the same tribes we are fighting today. In one case churchhill is fighting in a town, the same town where a young pakistani girl was shot and survived and he fought there and a number of parallels between that world and war and what we are seeing today, how in particular do you see that comparison living . Well, for the research for the booking , revisited the battlefield of churchhill and when i got there i had to be very, very careful, this area was a particular target for the c. I. A. Drone strikes, so on the one hand i had the pakistani people saying dont go there, it is a military zone and the c. I. A. Saying keep away, we might attack the villages and if you got a map of all of the c. I. A. Drone strikes in pakistan, they mirror where churchhill was fighting and in that sense you have a real sense that history is repeating itself. O you wrote in a blog post, if the taliban retake control of african blame obama, why . When president obama came into power in 20082009 he personally supervised the review of the strategies and he authorized the plan for military surge, defeat the taliban by force of arms, bring them to the table and then leave but no sooner was the plan implemented and the president changed his mind and abandoned the strategy and went for a cut and run strategy instead and we are looking other nato forces withdrawing and no prospect of a political settlement that was the original objective. And the taliban set to take over some of the areas that were under american control. Finally, i want to ask you about writing about al qaeda two, the broader middle east and what is happening, particularly in syria and osama bin ladens successor add ats with one of the extremist groups there, he doesnt like what they are doing there and out of control and the split within the al qaeda ranks might not be a good thing. No, in fact, look at whoo is going on in syria, that is a different conflict than afghanistan, but the new generation that are volunteering to fight against the outside regime are more determined, better educated, more resourceful than osama bin laden. They were running around writing bits of paper to each other. This new al qaeda two as the intelligence is calling it is far better organized and better resources and once the fighting is over they are going to turn their attention to some place else, like britain for example. They are resilient and in britain for example we now have 250 british jihadist and more radicalized and more determined and if the bombs go off in britain well know. The book is churchhills first war, at war with the afghans. Time to see what is trending on the website. A settlement with major tabacco companys is challenged in court for ignoring the africanamerican community. The deal is requiring to pay for corrected statements, Public Service advertisements and the lies about the gabbing use and running in six hundred newspapers and three networks. The black networks filed a claim and they should be included in the advertising, especially because the black communities were targeted by the tabacco industry and while africanamericans smoke at a rate similar to other demographics they are more likely to die from lung cancer and it is the third langest killer in the black communities. Talking about the tabacco companies to me this amounts to attempted murder. They must pay he says. But bill is saying why do blacks have to be singled out. You can read more at the website. Back to you. Thank you. Straight ahead, jimmy fallon takes over the tonight show and we talking the changes. Also, the dirty truth about gyms, maybe your work outwill turn to a different way. Breaking bad, is a growing backlash to the way people watch note worthy or nitpicking . Tonight show hosted by Johnny Carson had 18 Million Viewers and that is twice as much as the others combined. A generation that barely knows carsons name has more late nath fair to choose from and led to the greatest debacles in tv history. Will late night ever have another king. We have the dick cavette with us. He was a writer on the tonight show and author of three books, talk show confrontations, commentary and off screen secrets and blogs at the new york times. Ever tired as hearing legendary. Yes. That book actually is a collection by the first 75 blogs for the times. That is ugly word, blog. Two things he said, bril i cant want piece in the new yorker about four years ago by a man named manend and near the end, it was all about late night and talk shows and the ratings and the changes, i learned that when i was let go after many years on abc, my rating at that time was higher than anything leno and the tonight show. Stands to reason, but you dont think about it, there are so many spread outs now. How big is a deal of what is happening tonight and the transition. You were on the show the other day, a great appearance and old set of the dick cavette show. You are an expensive guest that night. Lauren michaels saying that fallon is the closest thing to carson. Michaels is a bit of a genius. Im not going to argue with his opinion. Jimmy is sure, young, hes collegeiate looking, funny, addlibs, that is different than just being funny. In addition to that. And hes witty and appealing. He can sing, does impressions and hes multitalented and more of a variety show. Johnny was a dear friend of mine. But there are more talents in mr. Fallon in terms of impressions, voices, of dialects, musical skills, and good sense of handelling a guest. He would never step on your punch line. A terrible thing to happen. That is like a waiter, like that was no lady that was, want more coffee. When the host does that to you, you want them dead. Hes likable. Unpretentious. Will that help the transition going better than the one with conan . That was one of the strangest misadventures. Jay in, jay out, jay back, jay high ratings, therefore out, conan was bruised by all of that, i think. This is going to go more smoothly . It should. There is nothing blocking it. I dont see what that could be. People will be racking their brains, what is the trick to getting the rating, what is the trick of not letting fallon behind or just, fallon is on top of the world at this point and everything going for him. And kimmel is good and they are friends and he knows it. That bring us up an interesting issue, in the discussion, a lot about kimmel and steward and all these, where is letterman in the conversation now. Letterman has the second highest ratings right now of the talk shows. David letterman will go until sick of it. Like everybody; there are times in his run and everybodys run where you wish you could do anything other than teach english rather than go to the studio tonight and face whomever it is. Johnny not the first to stay, only happy when on the air, i think, with that mother, and wife problems and alcohol problems and he was so tense that i felt so sorry for him when i worked for him, i liked him so, the battle sitting there in the tshirt and smoking cigarettes, pulled himself together and stood back in the winds, stubbed out the last promo before the show and went out there with such class and command and just brought tears to my old and young eyes. Carsons demons, it didnt seem like the new crop has them . Demon free. Yes, thats right. They do, they dont seem to be haunted. I have to turn in a piece about the late sid caesar and there was a man that the gods hated in the old greek sense of dont rise too high or well smiet you so low. Drugs, booze, angwish, depression, in bed for a month. Why the younger folks dont have that, i dont know, but im glad but then again, they might grow into that. The audience aged tremendously. Lettermans over 58. Lenos was pushing that. We have a social media question on that. Fallons a powerful on social media, twitter 11 million followers and leno doesnt hit the million mark, and on youtube a skit and over 21 million hits. So capitalize on the social media footprint the tonight show launched an app and allowing the viewers to interact with the show, will the young people watch the show or the clips online . If you subjected to jack par they are going to react while on the air. He would have blown up into a million pieces and taking the lives around him. That is a good idea. I cant perceive sitting there. And been irritated and bugged by the people calling into the show. I know you are talking about the fact that nothing has to be seen when on the air any more, catch it the next day, get it on devices or that device, a friend will tell you he just found it some place else and it is changing everything. Did i slide off the question . No. I am a good slider. What about gently. I will try. What do you think is there any way of o anybody else dominati dominating late night or nobody will be the king of late night . Well, another king of the night . Exactly. That was a book about johnny. It might not be. We may have moved beyond that. By the way the other thing i learned in the article, Johnny Carson, this is exclusive for you, Johnny Carson, his friend swifty told me in strict confidence once, i better not tell this. No, no. Johnny said once to me over a drink, cavette is the only one that could have beaten me if he had had a full station lineup. And in that article, i learned for the first time four years ago that abc had about a third fewer stations than nbc. So i could laugh off the idea of knocking johnny off the throne. Nice to hear that. That was nice. He also another exclusive, once he said richard i wish i had dropped that half hour. Toughs an hour and a half. It may take us back to johnny, babies and monsters and giants and creeps and wonders, was happiest at work. Maybe you should come back to late night and be the king again. Got an offer . I will talk to the al jazeera folks. You didnt hear i was going to be jimmys side kick. Another exclusive. Really an honor to have you on the show. You are among the very bet. Thank you very much. I hope that doesnt turn you into pi nokia. Straight ahead, atms dispenses more than money. House of cards has millions of americans watching the new season. 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President obama does it and millions do it, and you probably do it. If everyone does it is that bad. We are talking about Binge Watching. Netflix making the house of cards available at once and people watching all of the episodes and some are worried it is a new kind of addiction. Is that much ado about nothing. We are joined from california and hes a senior consultant, and his work appeared in salons and slate and on the huffington post. Alex, nice to have you on the show. This is happening more and more often because we can, and in the old days if you didnt catch the show when aired you were done and not able to see and now watching all five seasons of lost and that could be an experience, and why . It is 7 seasons of lost. People must be tweeting about that. I saw them all. It felt like 5. Look, you know, restorive experience is one that mentally recharges you and a couple of important featurefeatures, it i fascinati fascinating. For different people, different kinds of activities fulfill this. Some people Science Fiction or literature and some people hiking, nature, others rebuilding cars or sort of doing that type of mechanical design stuff. But the people i have interviewed who are dedicated binge watchers talk about watching shows like game of throwns or the wire or house of cards and using very much the same types of language that the people use for going to the theatre or or opera and so i think thats, so thats what restore tif experiences are and Binge Watching is restoring because it captures they attention, and transports them to another world and giving them the opportunity to engage enmentally but with something that is outside their normal every day lives. That sounds nice and good, but the book you talk about avoiding enraging the family and people have become antisocial while watching binge watch shows like breaking bad and house of cards and my wife and daughter among them. You cant have a conversation with the family. If you dig deeper, what you see is that it is a different kind of socialability. For one thing, people almost always choose shows on the basis of friend recommendations and do partly because their friends are peppering the conversation with sort of parks and rec references and they want in on that. So while you can argue that or watching something for two or three hours yes those particular moments may not be a social but the broader phenomenon can be. The other thing too we binge watch with ore people or our kids. And the social media component. I posted how i think that the house of cards is silly as i am 4 episodes in and got a tremendous response and that connected me to a lot of people. But some online critics are saying that this is an actual addiction. I think that is silly. It is not like drugs or alcohol. But it can take over a big portion of your life. Sure, but the people i talk to about it are strategic and thoughtful about the shows they are watching and when they watch it. They are not necessarily going and, you know, start season one when they have other things to focus on. Save it until the end of the smer ter of the project. The Technology Companies are loving the idea that their products are addictive. Creating the video games that are addictive is what they want to do. Technology and media dont work the way that things that are genuinely addictive liking tabacco and drugs and alcohol. They are doing the things on the sites to encourage you to watch more, but i dont think that people are by and large finding themselves in a position of not being able to resist another episode. Not being able to turn it off when it is time to do other things in your life. You must not have watched 24 in a Binge Watching type of way. I know people that could nt stp watching that. What about the attention spams, i hear it is shrinking. Binge watching does. Social media or watching the little videos on youtube as chopping up your attention right and one of the features of Binge Watching is that it is something that people engage in in order to have an experience of of stretching out their attention and focussing on things for l g longer periods of sometime, plots, stories, strong acting, but also it gives them the opportunity to watch in a way to pick up the knew answers of a show or Pay Attention to the things you wouldnt necessarily notice if you were watching one hour per week. The color of the clothing of different characters in breaking bad, which follows this sophisticated pallet depending in plot trajectories. You woundnt notice that over the course of weeks, months or years but would in days. How Binge Watching will actually affect broadcast television and Television Production in general. We have to leave it there. Alex, the author of the book the distraction addiction, great to have you on the show. 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