People could have children the the policies were on the books so recently that survivors are alive telling their stories. Lori jane glihah meets victims and meets a nurse who admits the role she played was wrong. I thought at the time i was doing the right thing. Its what the legislators wanted at the time and my bosses wanted. Even the president of the United States, you trusted those people. 87yearold celia vandegr. Ft remembers her time at a hospital for those labelled feeble maintained r minded and epileptic. It housed teens from broken homes, alcoholics and others that the state considered socially inadequate. How many sterilizations do you think you issued during your career there . Oh, my goodness, i couldnt begin to tell you. During her 40 years. She witnessed thousands of forced sterilisation procedures kids and adults who had reproductive organs altered so me couldnt have children. What do you remember about the kids that came in to be sterilised . They were asleep by the time they got to the operating room. I remember one week wed do seven male sterilizations and the next only two female sterilizations, because it took longer to do the female than the males. This is the first time vandegrift talked publicly. The height of the movement where government leaders were intend on creating a super race. In 1924 the jirgeia you genical sterilisation act was passed. The goal to rid society of people deemed intellectually detective. Or mentally detected. This is where they were taken from their families. Mark bold is campaigning for restitution for people of ugen. Cs. Now the building displays reminders of the controversial sisterinlaw illisation law. Every patient here, every person was confident to be feeble minded. Feeble minded, epileptic or criminal. Virginias law was cited during the nuremberg trials as an eugen. C success story. It was something established through nazi germany. It was founded here. The idea was defects would be passed on to children. To reduce welfare roles and tax burdens, this was the solution. At the time idiotic and imbecile were used for the disabled. Many were brought here where they lived, worked, and learnt cooking and shoe making. A team of Staff Members and medical officials held meetings to decide which residents should be sterilised. The doctor would talk about their physical condition, the doctor how they did on the psychological testing and what they were doing on the unit. What they could do. Everyone had input. It was disgusting. More than 30 states passed similar law, leading to 65,000 forced sterilizations nationwide over several decades. The virginia law remained on the books until 1979ment. It happened, it happened. I was too young to realise what was gown on. 86yearold louis was sterilised. He suffered from seizures caused by a head injury, making him directive under the law. They disrespected my fools. At a county court house we found some of reynolds sterilisation records. There is Louis Reynolds. 5318. Lets see what it is. Its proposed to sterilise said Louis Reynolds under the eugen. Cal sterilisation act. He has no guardian known to the institution. Reynolds told us he had parent, aunts and uncle,s a courtappointed guardian acted on his behalf during a hearing. How did the people end up his guardian . I have no idea. They were meant to represent them and the court. There was no representation, its a rubberstamp situation to go ahead and bid their will. The socalled defective reynolds served his country in the military, in korea and vietnam. When did you take the picture . In the 50, in quantico virginia. Thats where i used to teach the federal bureau of investigation how to shoot a pistol. He had a full career as a machinegunner and fire chief in the marines. Yesterday go to jesus and tomorrow might never be mine now retired reynolds spends a lot of time singing in the church choir. If i had music id do better, and tells stories of playing with country lege epd jimmy dean, stories he never had the chance to share with children. I wish i had a family. I wonder what kind of daddy would i be if i had children. Thats all i want it was years later that celia vandegrift began her work at the virginia center. If you could go back in time and talk to yourself back in the day in the operating room recollects what would you say about the process. If i could go back and know what i know now, id say, im not going to do this, im not going to be a part of it. Why . Because i didnt thing it would i knew if i knew what i know now was wrong. Celia vandegrift said her change of heart came when she met sisters janet and saidie engram, they bounced from foster home to foster home and in and out of the center where celia vandegrift worked during sterilisation. Where was the first time you saw me . Do you remember that . At the train. Why . I was two years old. With her daughter hope by her side celia vandegrift told us she remembers the little girls when they came into the if asility. I had a special feeling, especially janet. She clung like a leech. Celia vandegrift doesnt recall if she played a role in the decision, but doctors deemed the 2001s to be feeble minded and sterilised them. The lady, i think she was a nurse. She came in with a needle saying, im going to give you a shot, but didnt tell us what she was giving it to us for. And then i went to sleep. I woke up. My stomach was hurting. The nurse came in. I said what happened . She said, youve been sterilised. She said, you didnt want to have a baby because they are nasty. You said you would have liked to have a kid, a child . Yes, she would have turned out to be pretty. Cos i love kids. When i think about what their lives could have been and knowing what they have done, what they can do and what they are doing now, they could have lived on the outside. In an unusual swift, celia vandegrift and her family took the sisters into their homes. Janet has lived with them for nearly 50 years, and sadie moved in a few years back. Besides cream cheese, what goes in here . Three cups of sugar, three cups of flur, four sticks of butter. Both are domestic wizards. Saidie made the cake on the player and janet helped to raise celia vandegrifts daughter hope. I have a close bond with janet. She loved to read. She would sit by my bed at night and read me childrens stories until i fell asleep, every night. They could have been parents. Very good. Because they helped with my children and my grandchildren. They were on opposite sides of the eugenics tragedy. Theres no bitter innocence. Surprisingly celia vandegrift and the sisters never talked about their connection. How do you talk about this, or have you tucked about this with celia vandegrift, andway it was like for her to and what it was like for her to be on the other side. Have you talked about it . No. You never talked about it much. I dont remember what we did. After staying silence now all three women want to tell their stories and hope others will too. Im glad you are here, and we can tell the story. We did make a big difference in many lives. And not always for the best. America tonights lori jane glihah reporting. Next, guns and rites. A bold and different firearms campaign putting protection out front and in the open. On a hotly contested gun rites issue, in georgia a bill will allow people to take guns to schools and other public places. All it needs is a government signature. In other parts of the country people are pressing to openly carry their firearms. A view of that from america tonights sheila mcvicar. I feel naked when i have to go somewhere that will not allow me to carry. This is lobby day at the Virginia State legislature. The open Carry Movement is here in force and armed. They learnt to affect the political process and are Getting Better at it. When you stand in front of the desk saying, this is me, im talking about my family and rights. It speaks volumes. Im a gun owner. Edis one of the most outspoken proponents. Hes been interested in guns all his life. I have a shotgun. It has a mounted light. Im pretty much pretty much armed 24 7. As i sit in this home, someone could kick in the door, i would have five seconds of warning from my alarm system going off. You never know when that will happen, so you have to be at the ready. Levine has no personal experience of crime. When i carry, my main goal is to project me. If my family is there, ill protect my family, im not there to protect society. Sometimes those of us that carry get together and have a dinner. We are raffling off an ar 10 that we sold tickets for. I think that the right to carry a firearm is not only a godgiven right, but a rite to the constitution. Those places that dont let you carry are infringing rites. If someone says where are you going to dinner, where do you want to go . Theres a restaurant at Inner Harbour balt more. Do i like it. I do not. Would i love to carry in washington d. C. Yes. I feel that there is a level of training required to own a firearm. I dont think the government has to set a level. Its a personnel thing you have to do for personal things you have to do for yourself. I just [ bleep ] shot myself. The Gun Rights Movement may feel gun owners can regulate themselves, but the statistics on accidental death and injuries are startling. Each year around 600 are killed and over 17,000 injured in gun accidents. Classeslike this are available all around the country. Questions on semiautoos in general . Its confusing. Until i get my hand on it. Ill start with the 22, nothing big. My name is judy, im a certified firearms instructor and specialise in hand gun. Theres the 9mm, 38 and 357. The difference is the length. They are the same diameter. A class like this is required to carry a concealed weapon in the state. Not even this basic instruction is required to openly carry a gun in virginia. Technically its legal to having never held a gun, its legal to buy it, put it on your hip and walk down the street open carrying. Its not smart, but it legal. Alex and his stepmum are taking the course toot. They want the option to locally carry a concealed weapon. Adam has realworld experience did is cautious about how it affects his mindset. I was a Law Enforcement officer. I had to carry. I found i would tend to be more emboldened because i had a weapon to defend myself. Now that im Walking Around unarmed a feel a little better and im good at running away. Its been about four hours of basic classroom instruction, and now its time to shoot. The intention of the Second Amendment based on what i have read and learnt was to be able to defend the country against enemies foreign and domestic. How it transformed to protect an individual, family and community, im not sure how that occurred. Its a natural progress. Its an important part to have them close toot. Yes. Wanda learnt about guns and found out shes a pretty good shot and learnt something else. With training and a couple of rounds of shootings, not enough experience to carry a gun. Do you want to shoot him in the face . I dont believe guns are for everybody or anyone. I think you really have to have certain desire to wear a gun. For my personal protection, i dont think ill carry a weapon. Open carriers dont have such doubts. They feel certain its the best way to protect themselves and families. Now they want to the sway public opinion. I encourage these. Because Law Enforcement officers cant be everywhere all the time. Ive been in Law Enforcement for over 24 years. The average ratio, the accepted number is 1. 7 per thousand people. Is it a responsible choice that a person, if they carry training absolutely. Ive been carrying since hes been born. He sees it, he realiseds that its something his dad wears. At this point in time he can look at it but not touch it. Probably when hes six or seven or so, maybe hell have an opportunity to fire it. I feel safer carrying a gun. As a woman i feel women are targeted because of a perceived weakness. I think its important. It shows gun owners to be responsible people. I hear in the news media that right wing nut cases, i hear slanderous words and thats not me. Normal people, but with guns. Carrying a gun is not a black and white issue. Some considered the gravity of the decision that one day they may have to make. Taking a life is a series thing. I dont want to shoot anyone. When i put the gun on. I say a prayer in my head that i dont have to use it. The last thing i want to do is draw. If it came down to protecting myself from my family, i could do it. Im confident in that. Looking ahead on the Program Licence to track . If a licence plate camera picks up your licence plate many times during the week and pinpoint your location and chart your pathway through your life. It can reveal who you associate with, which doctor you are going to, whether you are sleeping in a different house every night. The controversial surveillance that is monitoring your every move, and its up for grabs. Adam may gets demand the wheel of a privacy series your secrets out, coming up monday. And under fire scandal in the Catholic Church as an outgoing bishops expensive taste angers his parishioners. Last week president obama visited the vatican for a meeting, a first meeting with pope francis, a year after taking over as head of the Catholic Church. Pope franciss focus on mod esy and support for the poor. Not everyone has fully embraced his example. We report from newark how years of scandal and changing perceptions of rich and poor is changing new battles in the era of francis. [ singing ] this is what it looks like when the faithful revolt. I think its absolutely outrageous. Outlandish, lavish, extravagant, conspicuous. Youve got to be kidding me. One parishioner asking others not to donate to the church. Another writing to the archbishop himself. I think the Catholic Church does not quite get it. The Catholic Church is our church. They are slow learners. Archbishop myers was appointed as a caretaker. Maybe they are arrogant, selfabsorbed, greedy and selfish fen. We intend to distribute this letter to many parishioners and parishes that we can meet. If you have the nerve to reply it will be welcome. Thank you for consideration, gym. [ music ] its sunday morning in newark a time for family and god. In recent weeks a crisis of faith has been testing the community. The men and women in these pews began to question their leader and the institution that binds them. At age 73 archbishop meyers is two years away from retiring. These images show his retirementment home, myers maption. A 4,500 square foot property with 3,000 square feet under construction. This is the house at the end of the controversy, an estate paid for by the archdiocese for one man. The half a billion addition includes an elevator, three fireplace, an indoor wave pool and a hot tub. Jim is one of hundreds of kath ligs calling on the church to clean house. Hes with holding donations and urging others to do the same. Building a 3500 square foot eddics to a 4,000 square not home. Five bedrooms, swimming pools, elevators doesnt make sense. In a statement a spokesman said he went on to say sf even if archbishop myers were to have paid for the house by himself, the fact, the message that it sends forth is not a good one. Its a garish example of conspicuous consumption. If we are concerned about the homeless, if we are concerned about the hungry, that kind of investment in a retirement home for one person is probably not wellspent money. Spending money is nothing knew in the clenchy. Last year the bishop of lindberg spent 40 million in church funds to renovate his home, among the upgrades a 20,000 bath tub and half a million of college space. Media dubbed him the bishop of bridge and it was not long before the vatican removed him. Unanimous by pale, but archbishop myerers, say parishioners, should be held reliable. I would like him to be dismissed. Hes disgraceful for the Catholic Church, for this matter and other things he has done. This is our church as much as it belongs to the archbishop. We are the leyte, but we all have a stake. Maria says the church was her world. She was president of the Catholic Youth Organization and became a Catholic School social worker. Years of scandal and disappointment left her feeling disillusioned and this brought things to a boil. I feel they are being hippo crits and its difficult for me to sit in a pu and listen to someone who i think is a hip crit. I dont need them as an intermediary to speak to god. Im ashamed i dont go to church, i would like to, but i cant find the good feeling i used to have in going to church on sunday or any other time. For those in positions of authority, who seek to place the needs of vulnerable before the homeless, unemployed, above their own, we prayer to the lord. John is pastor of the st. Aloysius church in jackson, more than an hour outside of newark. He said myers actions carry longterm cost. We have eight acres. Do we believe hell live there by himself, hes not going to ride a john deere motor or be out there with a skimmer. Hes not going to be there cooking. Youre looking at another 500,000 in carrying costs and the arch diocese says he intends to be entertaining a lot of priests and bishops from around the world. He will not serve them chicken legs. Theres a high cost to maintaining the one individual. I am sure and certain that a single mother in inner city newark would appreciate a slice of that 500,000 to main, pay her rent and buy her kid a pair of shoes at 60 or 70 a pair. I am sure she would appreciate having a slice of that. The message that resonates poverty as a scandal. Poverty as a desperate cry for help. They are the tenants that the pond if built his message on. Pope francis is on the scene and theres something you can believe in, grasp, admire. Theres somebody that you know is walking in the footsteps of christ. I dont know if archbishop myers is, i dont know if hes forgotten the message. As a brother priest, reflect on the gospel. You have no place to lay down your head. I ask the bishop to think about that, to sell the house and give the money to the work of catholic charities. When you live opulently, theres a cost to someone else. When you live in opulence someone lives in poverty. The the church is about helping the poor not to be poor any more. After the break in america tonight, you know about the dutch and the dope, but did you hear about the netherlandss alternative approach to alcoholism. The goal is for more selfrespect because they have something to do. Paying alcoholics for Community Service in beer. More states have taken up deregulation of marijuana u we look to amsterdam, and their experience of pot. They have a novel approach to alcoholism, one that may be innovative or hard to imagine. Lori jane gliha on how amsterdam is paying alcoholics, to help them with their problems. This is coen ruijs. Several times a week hes canvassing the streets of amsterdam. Picturing up tiny scraps of newspaper, empty cans and bottles of booze. A few weeks ago i found a very good shirt. A former postman he once walked the streets delivering male. Coen ruijs, an alcoholic, is cleaning the streets while trying to get clean. Hes part of an unlikely crew of garbage collectors, struggling addicts who spend half a day on streets picking up trash. In exchange the city offers them beer. Five cans to be rationed throughout the day. Plus a warm meal, tobacco and 10 euros, its an u. N. Conventional Dutch Program that keeps adict working instead of loitering in the park, where many get drunk, start fights and yell at passersby. Does it help or hurt alcoholism . If i was home all day i could be finishing one bottle after another. When we bet coen ruijs on a cold morning in east amsterdam, he was save ouring is few situation of his first heineken of the day. The former musician and artist explained how hard liquor led him down a difficult past. He took his first taste at 17. By age 25 his drinking was out of control. Drinking in the morning, all day. Have you been a person that yelled or got in a fight because of alcohol and while you were sitting there, before getting in the program. To be honest, yes. I see a big difference from when the people start. People came two, three, four hours too late. Now you see everybody is in time, and you see the growing interest in all aspects of their lives, which was not there when they started. Janet van der noord oversees a total of two groups as they clean the city. She distributes the beer two in the morning, two in the afternoon and one when the project is complete. Shes a supervisor, but a support system, helping those who relapse, need outside assistance or struggle to stay on track. The goal is that they feel they have more self respect because they have something to do. They it gives them something to their lives. Janet knows what its like to fight addiction. She battled with drugs for 35 years before getting sober. I feel equal to them, and i do have another attitude because of that, that makes that we feel more safe together, and like a role model. So people dont give up. Please dont give up. Theres always hope. If i can do it, they can do it. She knows there are skeptics but says traditional programs are not the best solution for everyone. People say i want to go to rehab because i want to become clean. I say of course, go ahead. Some are not ready, they are afraid, they dont know what to expect. Coen ruijs has been in and out of clinics and detox the the telephone manufacture proclaimed progress is what the local district mayor hoped for when she agreed her district would fund it in 2012. Fatima elatik says problems in the park got bad. Even though giving alcohol icts more chom is controversial, she says she was willing to try anything. We threw everything we had, every project, law, fine, every opportunity to fine them for disturbances. But, you know, fining them is not curing the problem, its targetting the symptom. Theyd be gone from the park for a week and come back, because they are not strangers, the people that live in the distribute. They have the right to use the park. City Council Conservatives call it a waste of money. Its too soon to know if the program is working. Fatima elatik says she has witnessed changes to some. A man like fred. He looked like a bum, someone you wouldnt give any attention. Now he walks around, hes proud of himself, he interacts and greets people in the veets. That, to me is the biggest change i have seen in the human being in a period of six months. To me thats a success. Underneath his reflective blazeorange jacket fred is a man dressed for a job interview. He comes to clean the streets in a suit and tie and tries to wear a smile, despite personal tragedies, including the death of an old gifld that offed girlfriend that caused him to turn to the bottom. He speaks dutch but told us in english how far he has come. Do you think the program is helping you . Yes why . I try for myself. Not everybody see it, but i try to stop for myself, but its not easy. I fighting every day when i wake up, and i standing in front of the mirror. Every day i tell to myself fred, do not drink this day. Only time will tell whether the men can kick their habits. In the meantime they have a job to do, a place to be and a chance to chang, which is enough to bring them a sense of selfrespect. Ahead in our final thoughts, school ties. Who is suiting up for the Cotton Pickers and the arabs much some schools want to get the ball rolling on a sports stereotype. Finally from us this hour, we consider the words of late coach joe paterno that the name on the front is what marts, not the one on the back. That brings up a heated issue in sport. We look to the washington redskins, the football teams owner, Dan Schneider is not planning to change the brand but will support native americans with a new foundation. When it comes to sport stereotype sometimes actions fail to speak lauder than word. Washington redskins, cleveland indian, two nicknames and mascots under fire. Imagine rooting for the orafino idaho main yacks for the filipino midgets. The whacss or the pe can illinois shanks. Would you be offended . We looked at all kind of nicknames. The ones that get the ire the most are the native american names, warrior, red skips, indian, tribe, anything with a native american konno takes got people most upset. You can make the argument that braves or indians are appealing to nobility of native american culture. When you come up with red skips, it strikes a lot of people as week racist. Sometimes instead of creating harmony, it stirs controversy. With that in mind we decided to travel the country to talk with people about what is in a name. 2. 5 hours least of los angeles, south of palm strings california is the cochella valley, an area marked by trees and open spaces and largely populated by arab families. They have a nickname for the past 80 years that has come under fire. The idea that this mascot is offensive to them is not so farr fetched. They are unhappy with the depiction of the mascot and felt it was appalling to them and stereotyping arab culture and people. Thats why i called them. That was never the intent from the community and definitely not something that my board or i would not be sensitive too, and be ready to resolve. Cochella valley high was nicknamed the arab through its connection with the middle east and the date industry. These are the logo, the 30s, 50s, updated in the 50s, and this from the 80s, to the present. You see the hook knows. The last thing i want to do is hurt someones feelings, because we did something we shouldnt have done. Its a mascot. Its it shows us that we want to be angry, strong. I disagree with the issue, i dont see why they are getting offended by the mascot. Save the cochella valley high school. It has almost 3,000 members. 90 were yous feel the same way, that we should not give in to pressure. To resurface, a big mascot. Repaint most of the school. Thousands better spent on educating the students instead of the controversy. Community and board meetings are ongoing and a 5person committee will make their recommendations involving compromise and change. I have heard more from arab americans. In the end everyone has been open to having a discussion and say consider it. Separated by 1200 miles of road, but perhaps tens of thousands of highlies of history is robs town texas. Robstown high school is the home of the Cotton Pickers. We interrupt the program, because secretary of state john kerry came out of a 4hour meeting with the foreign minister of russia discussing how to possibly end the conflict in crimea and in ukraine. Lets listen in to what he has to say. There has been promising developments. Lets hear what he has to say. Apologies for arriving late. We spent a fair amount of time talking. As you know i came to paris to meet with foreign minister Sergei Lavrov because president obama and the United States believe firmly that diplomacy has a Critical Role to play to help the people of ukraine to live in dignity in a stable and peaceful, unified democracy. We are here because of our Firm Conviction that Diplomatic Solutions ought to be the first resort in solving international problems. The u. S. And russia have differences of opinion about the events that led to the crisis. But both of us recognise the importance of finding a diplomatic solution and of simultaneously meeting the needs of the ukrainian people, and that we agreed on tonight. Both sides made suggestions on ways to deescalate the security and political situation in and around ukraine. We also agreed to work with the Ukrainian Government and the people to implement the steps that they are taking to assure the following priorities the rites of national minorities, language rites, demobilization and disarmorment of regular forces and provocateurs and inclusive constitutional reform process and free and Fair Elections monitored by the International Community. We agreed to consider the ideas and the suggestions that we develop tonight and to finance our discussions soon. The United States is consulting with ukraine. At every step of this process, and we will not accept a path forward where the legitimate government of ukraine is not at the table. This principle is clear no decisions about ukraine without ukraine. This afternoon when i spoke with Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk i reiterated the United States commitment to coordinate with ukraine and sustain our strong support throughout the process. With the full support of the ukrainian people, Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk is moving ahead with constitutional change, democratic elections, and painful but necessary economic reforms. As we have seen in the past week at the i. M. F. And the u. N. , as well as in the e. U. And the g7, the International Community stand firmly with ukraine. We will continue working in lock step to provide them with the economic and Political Support that they need during their transition. In a frank conversation this evening with Prime Minister Sergei Lavrov i made clear ta the United States still. And we still believe on the wrong side of history. But any Real Progress in ukraine must include a pullback of the very Large Russian force that is currently massing along the borders, and tonight i raised with the foreign minister a strong concern about the forces. We believe that the forces are creating a climate of fear and intimidation in ukraine, its not creating the climate we need for the dialogue and for the messages september to the International Community and ukrainian about the diplomatic channel. The United States and the International Community stand in firm support of ukraines sovereignty and ukraines territorial integrity. We will continue to support the people of ukraines right to choose their own fewer, and i will say tonight foreign minister Sergei Lavrov indicated that russia wants to respect the rite of ukrainians to make the choice. Obviously its a difficult Democratic Path toward the possibility of prosperity and piece and tonight Prime Minister Sergei Lavrov indicated that russia wants to support ukraine in its independence and ability to make the transition. The Ukrainian Government demonstrated remarkable restraint in the face of enormous pressure and has shown the world courage and resilience that every country ought to applaud and as it continues down the path the United States of america and its partners will remain by its side. We would be delighted to take questions. Reporter [ inaudible ]
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