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The case is related to a speech the con gave in august, which in which he accused police and the judge of torturing one of his aides preliminary results in sweetness, general elections just the right way alliance could win a slim majority over the ruling sent to left block voters as 2 votes is still being counted only incumbent Prime MinisterMagdalena Anderson has not yet conceded defeat. Rising crime, immigration of the Energy Crisis with the main issues. What do you see here . And ill just here, coming up right after the stream, next on calcium because the Energy Battle between russia and the west is escalating. But the whos winning is europe prepared to leave the challenge of going without wash and gas of, sorry, fuel prices pushing up the cost of living globally. When will inflation peak charging the cost oil 0 i i and for me, okay on todays absent in stream when looking ahead to the october the 2nd elections in brazil. There are 12 president ial candidates, but were going to be looking at the leading to present i at both scenarios and also u. S. And marcia new la da silva. Here they are debating on august the 29th through the shade waste. The country i left is a country that the people miss. It was a country of employment. It was a country where people had the rights to live with, dignity, with their heads up in this country will come back if you brave oprah, corp you. So there was corruption, president lula, you want to come back. What for what to keep doing the same thing. And petro, battle rice get a little bit there for the workers party, the worse off the people are the poor, the better for them to do politics off those. It will, its you so much. So you have to very different candidates. Now what would you like to know about them on today . So we are going to be exploring key Campaign Issues and whats at stake for presentations . You can do in a conversation right here in the Comment Section on you chip ah, o i x y x that panel, hello elona. I be honest. This is so lovely to have all 3 of you here. We are going to unpack the upcoming elections. Whats at stake . Whats going on in brazil right now in no, no welcome, please say hello to our audience around the world. Thank your family. My name is elena zabel. I am the co founder president of the got are easy to get to have you. I dont know welcome please say hello to audience. Thank you for having me for me. Im of the english market. My manager asked students for liberty, brazil that to happen. And cecilia, nice to see you, please say mazda c a to thank you so much for inviting me. Im cecilia thorn, aggie. Im managing editor at americas quarterly. All right, very good. I am going to get you guess, to build a picture of what these 2 candidates are like. Lets put up the candidate whos currently present at the moment. Cecilia, tell me 2 things about post now or that will be helpful for International Audience to know. Both narrow came and from left field even though his home the right. He just surprised everybody when he got elected. He is a long time politician who was in congress for almost 30 years as a french character who just exploded in 2018 as the leading candidate with a guy. This scorsone a rhetoric of supporting families, freedom which to him equates a right to have guns and against abortion, and for family and specially religion. All right, and it did, cecilia, any of you anything more to add to post now . So we get this instant picture of how hes campaigning. What is hes like, what did he style like you . Cecilia . Just put them in the right place, but i would say that these in a far life are right. Candidates like very much like trump and the week there are been populous, authoritarian leaders that are trying to undermine democracy from within. And thats an important feature for this election because it to them, its an election about democracy. We have so it feels that weve got 2 polar opposites as leading candidates. Lets have a look at louise in mass lead to silva, put his candidate caught up. And this time a known if you start with 2 things that would be helpful for us to know. Before we get deep into our conversation to or sola is pregnant that came from the people he had the to context of mandates and was responsible for include the most number, the populations in, lets say the lower and middle middle class. So he comes with a flag of were going to be happy again. He left also with the corruption gambles. The processes that you are facing were notified by the Justice System because they were not respecting the due process according to our supreme court. So he wants to come back to just try another another time to show what his par, to should do for the brazilian people see here that yeah, and this is sort of a playback this election should have been in 2018. So any 2018 hula was ahead in the polls when he was arrested and taken to jail under the legation that that he learned just mentioned. So he was taken out of that run right, a few months before the election. So now were actually sort of re read the reliving a 2018 election. But guess lula has a banner of poverty fighting against poverty. He was a poor man himself. He came from a very, very poor family that migrated from the northeast almost on foot and had you know, very little education and sort of like pulled himself out from the bootstraps and became a new union leader. Very well known love to global that he is a relatively well spoken man. I mean, he really has the power of words and resonates with people. But so does both in our, in completely different narrative. But hes also incredibly powerful in his speech. I be on im wondering what the atmosphere is like in brazil right now, fema weeks to go before the elections. What is at stake for sale at this point in terms of social conditions, living conditions, what might be possible depending on what happens on october. The 2nd well actually we are facing a very polarized environment right now where dan sions are alike all over the place. Actually, i just hope that whoever gets selected, we have a little more space to debate peacefully because i see maybe there, there is a, arise of violent speeches, etc. So im kind of worried that this may get worse. Depending on who gets selected. Can you give me an example when you say theres a rise of violet speech or say youve got a better view of that than we have . What does that mean . What have you heard . Basically on social media, i think elena will agree with me. Thats something that we see every day actually on where people are attacking each other, you know, you know, very hostile wait, actually. And it seems like we can debate politics in the city more. I need you start. And then cecilia, you pick out of that because i know that these are the very important the so i think, you know, i hate speech. This information is information is not new, but it has been with us in the last elections. But just to say that there is a different thing now, which is a rhetoric, especially from been gone, but in terms of Political Violence that people should respond to a new result, which is not the result of he winnie with violence. Take the guns that he allowed people to buy and then just in his speech, protect democracy which, which of course so i would argue that its against them all proceed, but thats, thats what is at stake. I believe a possibly a Political Violence. Silica head. Yeah, i was just going to add on a bit ever address actually throw you another question to to a loaner because the were, were seeing just a day in the news. Again, another person who was killed by another one by an a political discussion. And the man just, you know, killing each other. There was another men celebrating his Birthday Party was killed because he had little of banners around his Birthday Party. So this trends, ladies, its moving out of social media and we had this push for more guns on the streets. And that to me is those scariest part of this moment in, in my country, is this push for more weapons and elona. Thats what i would say because of the, the rise was what, like some 300 percent more guns in the hands of civilians since 2018. Something like that. Right . Im absolutely. Cecilia. So just to say, you know, i work for over 20 years in Civil Society and like with a non partisan independent organization. But were here really facing tracks. Sure. The more graphic system watha down abroad in terms of a lack of dialogue. We had the closure of facing this country that was unprecedented since the dictatorship time. So what theyre facing now is really the, the intent of not accepting their was the results of the election. And of course, society and institutions are pushing back against that. But were having to restate every day our support for democracy to come through and my organization has been leading the gun control. I Say Initiative with another Organization Called the school to so the past 2 to be able to have art, lets say, a Evidence Base dialogue of what it means to leave in a democrat state. Or people have to like accept the rule of the law and cannot pick justice into their own hands. I to on and let me share with you some headlines that we picked out their international headlines. I some concerns from outside of brazil, on my laptop here, brazils president ial Campaign Kicks off and made fears of violence. Facebook i would, i matter is failing to prevent repeat of january the 6th in brazil report warns than imminent election crisis in brazil are these over wrought with these accurate i think its accurate actually, because like i said, we are facing a very polarized campaign, Political Campaign and, and since the beginning of the campaign, i feel that things are getting a little bit worse in this sense. Um, because like i told you before, you go social media in to see people that can each other. Like, it seems like we are not able to more to talk as individuals will have to respect each others views. And thats something that really worries me because i liked elona said its democracy who is at stake. So its important to us to learn how to talk to each other again with respect and peacefully. Lets talk about 2 issues that are impacting voters. And sometimes what from the Campaign Child is not what really is needed for the country. Im wondering if theres a disconnect there, but for you to see that what is one of the most Critical Issues that will be important when people go to vote and they make that decision hunger. I think for, you know, if you have 33000000 people hungry and a country its, you know, when he gets to the vote, its one vote one person. It doesnt matter what your bank account is like. So right now we do have several cohorts of society that support one or the other, but a large one that they are hungry, they need food on the table. So i think that for a very large bit of the population, ah, because the 33000000 that are going hungry, then you can add easily several other 1000000 people who are just scraping by. So once you have this scenario, i think thats what its going to count the most at the moment of voting. I would agree i just had the cost of living in general has increased the many as in many other parts of the world. But brazil faces an economic crisis. People are like with difficulty paying their b. O. So unemployment, i also see people worried about health and education. So the public goods provision and of course so violence, acute is always also in the order of the day. So its a, its a jobs economics and public goods election. What about indigenous vote is because often they all pushed out of the thinking of what, where is brazil going next . Something that luna is always been thinking about. But both scenario has changed that trend in the last few years. Climate save me amazon. Who is that important to the voters . Thats the didnt very interesting question i cuz i asked myself like, you know, eve, see the world looking at the brazil and thinking of brazil as, as, as a big amazon and to the issues there. But you go into the amazon and you see a population that needs jobs and who is employing them, whos giving them jobs, illegal loggers, illegal miners, and people who wore pushing deforestation. So these are jobs and you know, the larger groups that are behind this push are not the ones actually doing the cutting of the trees. So you have a real issue that both scenario support and a north despite his a b. Lets say a weird environmental a policies its, its very strong because these are their jobs. So i think that there is a great disconnect there. But if i may say, so given the indigenous, i think that one thing that happened since 2018 is that the indigenous groups got a lot more voice and guts and are getting a lot stronger. So i think if there is any benefit to the old is the, you know, insanity that its happening on their situation. Its that even though it, the, because it got worse to them. I think they got more of a voice and theyre getting heard more and more active and more organized even, you know, Indigenous Women are organizing and several other groups. So i think that there is strength in numbers and they are still need support from the outside. But i think they are getting stronger. Let me just now quickly. Sure. Um yeah, i think i should have us. No, i think that was a very important issue because it, on the one hand cecilia sulkily right to say they got more voice and theyre coming bigger numbers. I think its the highest number since we started recording the number of candidates that self care indigenous. But its also because they are under threat rhetoric. The territories are under threat, so they feel they need to mobilize politically. So you see a pushback and its a, its a good the pushback in representation and we hope, you know, many of them got elected. I want to just play a little bite from luna to silva talking about the Indigenous People of brazil on why they are important to him and also to brazil. Of course, thats how to listen. This country cannot continue to be governed by someone who doesnt like Indigenous People who doesnt like black people who doesnt like women who doesnt like Union Leaders who doesnt like the amazon who doesnt like serrato catania. The amazon rain forest who doesnt like its people. So we wouldnt be completely about talking about election without talking about misinformation. Was the information out there. I think that thats now typical for every election that has any digital input i do on or whats been on your what st messages recently on one sec. Yeah, actually i know theres a lot of big news. We have a lot of groups today so you can go around, you know, and what is dangerous about it is that information spread really quickly. So i get something like, i dont know at 4 oclock and then 430, Everybody Knows the same thing. And sometimes its a misleading information that i have to have about ask what kind of misleading information. Because then weve set it on al jazeera but give me an idea of saying that is obviously so ludicrous that everybody is not going to believe it. Um, basically formation about the 2 candidates leading candidates, both scenario and lula, and misleading formation about both of them. Thats why they see the most actually, like like i said before, it seems like people can talk im, im on a peaceful level, so they have to attack each other and most of the time using lice to do it. So, oh, i dont actually know how gonna to when to fight this because everybodys free to share whatever they want. But, but its a, its a problem were facing right now because many people dont go after information to try to find the truth before themselves. And they believe the 1st thing they see yeah, this thing now going on as i was just commenting, that is one of the scariest thing. Yeah, and ill say one of the most of the mental one is the ones that the into question, our electoral voting system, which is a very modern 11 that elected including a current president. And you know that he and his group a tried the whole time to discredit the system, saying there is a secret room that would control and the fraud brazils elections. And i think this is a very, very dangerous message, as unfortunately, when we seen the polls, the presence 2 or 3. I do believe that the election sir can be further than that war fraud. Even if he was elected. Yeah, i yeah. He said that he, one of the 1st round, he didnt lose. He didnt win and 2nd, right . Right. Not one example actually of the, you know, yes it run. You know, if i dont when the election has been stolen . Absolutely. Let me, i, this is, its so interesting and you know, we spoke to maria, who is the director of Human Rights Watch in brazil. And this is what she told us. Its almost a warning for what may happen post october. The 2nd, lets have a look president wilson that who is running for reelection has sought to in their mind trust in the electoral system i. Lansing, without providing any proof that it is a reliable in addition to be attacking the independent media, attacking the judiciary. There had been no proof in cases of fraud in brazil fence. We adopted the electronic electoral system more than 20 years ago. Its crucial that International Community act in their way that support free and free elections in brazil. And then the clear cut method to wilson, that, that an attempt to not respect, then we will proceed, voters will not be tolerated. So thats an issue that we dont know if its gonna happen yet. Theres some concern, but we dont know quite yet. I want to give our viewers watching this a little snippet of boston arrow to see his confidence at this stage in the campaign. And then im gonna open up our conversation. We have so many questions for you guess on youtube. Were going to do a speed around and see how many of them we can outset and address, but 1st his pastor boss an hour. It said it is good. We know that we have a fight between good and evil ahead of us. The evil that lasted for 14 years in our country that almost broke our homeland about now wants to come back to the crime scene. They wont. The people are by our side. The people are on the good side. The people know what they want. Oh, all right, so lets go to youtube. We got so many questions and comments. Renato, for instance, says president boston r. I refuse to buy pfizer vaccines. There were so many avoidable deaf c also not people dying without breath. Its clearly a death for our democracy. That is when our toes perspective, but its interesting that for this home 20 minutes or so, nobody mentioned cover it alone or why . Well, i would say because were dealing with the threat of the day, but that was a huge issue in brazil, several 100 people almost dad. There is a research that shows that 4 out of 5 of these that could be preventable if the government had acted. The president was denied himself as a denial for climate change, for instance. But he was against masks. He was against buying right to like vaccines. So our governors actually did a great job and provide a motivation as brazil has like a very high records of immunizing our population. But as far as the now the on to back to the movement also real in the come through. So that was absolutely failure. And a lot of like a suffering that should be prevented. All right, and you mentioned this earlier on how to revise it. Resilience right now. How youtube comments, a completely divided as well. Edwardo new ella was the biggest thief in our country, mo, most an hour is a want to be trump. What do we get out of that situation . If weve got one group saying your candidate is wrong, another group saying your candidate is well, who suffers or who benefits . Arianna . And i think who suffers the most, is this the marsey itself . Because like i said i, democracy is a to democracy to be strengthened. We need a scenario where people can dialogue, you know, and thats what im, im not seeing happening. So this is my main concern about the elections. And as you can see, we are facing a very paralyzed scenario. So, so it is like a little microcosm of what is happening. Im show in brazil, ive got this really interesting comment, is to see that id love to unpack it and, and maybe add to it. If you can. The brazilian people want both to narrow, but the lease one lula. Thats one persons take. Can you . Yeah, its interesting. Its so interesting that you know, and then if you ask that will be someone else would say the opposite. Really, zachary, already both in our lives. I thats the, we got the to the situation where its not an election of which policy we want it said an election of which, which met the which idol we have. So its really a right now, were having this dispute of like mike and it is better than yours and this is the good versus evil. Im election in not an election on issues and what brazil needs coming forward. And i dont know how we get out of this, but this comment just paints. To me brings a exactly, this idea that some people will say what he said, right . The rich and the port, the are, you know, a seminar commentary would assume youre interested in head, but its neither. You have supporters for both in both areas. You have, you know, real elite supporting both scenario and you have real, you know, india have the poor electing a supporting lula as well. So its, its, thats definitely not the issue. But if you get, you know, a comment from one side or the other that you are going to get this is, you know, this think that its just like we are in a stalemate, right now. Were not discussing issues. Were discussing who i like and who i dont to see that that is such a way to getting to pedros question. Weve only got a minute to answer it, but they do it very quick quickly. If you can patch, i want to know what are the main points and plans of each government. A lula government and a continued bo scenario carpet isnt really clear to the voters that they got different plans. I think in the public debate, its less clear. I think when you read the programs, you see that that one candidates both are not or is, is more of the same in terms of what he planned to do before. But he didnt deliver on to corruption. But there are many corruption scandals in his government. The most secretive governments, since the faith or shipping brazil dont know much, i think many things will come later. He also promotes the liberal economy but didnt believer. But he broke on that the liberals wanted the either in brazil. So, lola comes back with the, lets include people, lets also put amazon back at the amazon forest back into the priorities of the country. Lets have our education and health as a priority for, for all. So i think its a more inclusive set of proposals, but i wanted to say that was to see a mention. We dont have enough data that looked at him that yeah, were at the very end of the shows that im glad that you are able to say that very briefly. And that i have time to say thank you and lona adiana, cecilia, and all of your excellent questions on you cheap. I feel i got a little bit of the election bonds right here in the Comment Section. And so watching i see you next time. Take everybody ah an astonishing film documenting 2 decades in one of the most embattled corners of the globe. The child of afghanistan, 20 years of war, follows me from boyhood to manhood. A life that has no no peace shaped by hardship, resilience and adventure. 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