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For sciences, the evidence is the refutable. But americas Climate Change denials, robert mistrust. The fact despite soaring had bridges raging wildfires and shrinking water reserves. The Worlds Largest economy still splits alongside the logical lines. So can it ever reach consensus to avoid catastrophe . Climate wars are 2 on a just 0. I thought i said me okay, on todays episode of the stream, were going to look at how Climate Change is made. A community in oregon go to war over water. Their story is told in the 4 lines investigation when the water stopped a water crisis in americas west is intensifying, deep Historic Division obliterated ecosystems to create agriculture at the expense of our tribes. That to where your brand since time again, the strong pay good away from the way outlines, investigate how Climate Change his pissing an oregon town to breaking points. We will fight because its in a blood. We are literally to the point that people are going to start seeing each other when the war to stop on al jazeera, joining us to talk about the water conflicts that you just saw, that joey from the trailer and i ran hello emma. Its a nice have you all on the string today. Joey. Introduce yourself to our international audience. Tell them who you are. What you do. Hi, my name is joey gentry and i am a member of the clamor tribe. I am not on our official tribal government and i am not an official spokesperson. I just care deeply about my community, my home, my and my home town, and i just want us to heal. Hello and welcome to the stream. Introduce yourself to our global audience. My name is ben duval, and im a former on south o 2 a california along with my wife and 2 daughters, free girl alfalfa and we on the climate revelation project. And im also the president of clans, Water Users Association of, and im not representing the organization than the official capacity here today. Im just here much like joe just said as, as just somebody who wants to see see some healing in this community. And this, this, its situation remedy yet to handle. Emma introduced herself i, my name is emma maris, im an environmental writer, and i live here in klamath falls. So ive been following this Water Conversation for about 8 years. All right, good to have you. Im all right, so now youve met our line up. What would you like to ask them . Dont you choose . You can ask them anything concerned with the Climate Change in the region that theyre talking about . How it may well be solved, things that you dont understand, Comment Section like that. I will try and get your comments into todays, shall. Emma, can you help us understand . Very basically, what is the conflict about you could have a conversation among i it had to being, but it to say the least. I explain it, but very briefly. Sure. So there are a large number of farmers and ranchers who use water from the giant lake that we live near by called upper klamath lake. And every year they get a certain amount of water allocated to them by the federal government. This year that amount was 0 and that was extremely stressful for the producers. But the reason that that amount was 0 is because the water in the lake also has other uses, like keeping alive fish in the upper clement lake and salmon down stream on the way to the ocean. And also watering wildlife refuges that keep migratory birds alive on their way up. So what were looking at here is a bunch of different people who all want the same water and because of Climate Change, the water isnt there when Everybody Needs it. But it used to be that it have a look. I have my laptop, this is a new jerry, jerry. So i dont. Well fishing. How old are you that jerry . Probably 6 or so . No. You got a big one. I recall that. Yeah. All right, so what change . Because he said he was little joey fishing. You fished with your dad that have a quick look at dad. There. This is the water source is now being argued about so fiercely. Reminders from when you were 6 to now what, what happened to this water source . Well, as mentioned, Climate Change is has changed things, Drought Conditions used to be abnormal, the anomaly, and now theyre becoming the norm. There we have too many consumptive users and not enough water. Basically, the government over allocated over promised a finite resource. And now nature and our waterways cannot deliver enough water to our Agricultural Producers and our fish, which are on the brink of extinction. Theres another level to this in terms of farmers and then Indigenous Peoples relationship to the land. But i want to bring your book thompson. Shes from stanford university, Water ResourcesEngineering Department and shes a student and she explained why Indigenous People in this region of fighting. So hard to protect their water source issues as in Business People and becomes rivers. Everything to us whenever being poorly medium, poorly, when we cant get food from a wire because their populations dang off because of the drought and water the allocate to other places. Then our diabetes are the rates go up and physically killing people. Our families can be together and all of our family has been on the river and when theres no nomic income, when theres no practices culturally where we can go under any more. And the families get up and spend time, other places who we are and the people are directly tied to the river. Were literally translate it down or people are literally encompasses everything who we are, what it means to be indigenous. So for me, in the wrong requirements, river is the fight for life and death. So then thats one understanding else. Water and the relationship to Indigenous People from that area. Im going to go via my laptop. Hey, can you shed some pictures with this as well . You and your daughters, what do we, what are we looking at hamp then . So we understand your relationship to the land a more to, to this is me and my daughters and we did a project were replaced an older inefficient irrigation system with a new one. And thats something that has been going on ongoing and not only on my farm, but throughout clements revelation project, especially in the last 20 years as weve faced reduced allegations we are um, as, as farmers, we feel like were a steward of the resource and im speaking for myself, we try and stretch the every drop. Busy water as far as we can, and the further we get into these droughts, the more critical it becomes to do that. And we are all constantly trying to adapt and be able to make our systems as, as efficient as possible. But at the end of the day, it does take some water in order to irrigate and sustain a farm. And we have to be economically healthy in order to make the kinds of investments that allow us to be more efficient, that water and thats why droughts and our complete water shut off like we saw this year are particularly devastating to our communities because it, it takes away our ability to remain economically viable and made and long Term Investments that help not only my community locally here as far as agriculture, but the entire watershed as a whole. I want to put something to you. Bannon, and this came up in the reporting for my, my colleague just russian. He was reporting on the fish dying in the, in, in the basin and, and why the fuss at dying . Im going to play this kit team and id love you to respond at the end of it. Lets take a look. Every year thick cloud, blue green algae clots the water in the lake state health authorities, when people and their pets to keep out with nowhere else to go young, sucker, fish die and mass before reaching adulthood. If you were to have your dog drink that it would become incredibly ill if not till this year, because of the extreme drought, extracting water farms could put the remaining fish at risk. There is very much a correlation between the quality of this water and the mortality of this fish. And the quality of this water is a direct result of irresponsible agricultural practices. Oh, that ones hot, or is it then . Well theres that there are several different factors that go into that. First i all explain a little bit about the geography of this area on my farm as most of the climate reclamation project, which is a federal irrigation project. It was one of the 1st reclamation projects that was started by us bureau of reclamation after the reclamation act was passed in the early 19 hundreds. And it was, it was one of the reasons was because it was recognized that it was such an ideal urge geisha project. Im just the way the geography is the water supply, the incredible soil. So we have here makes it, makes it one of the most efficient your issue projects anywhere. And im an extremely productive but i am calling about why and the sliding when you, when you talk about at fishing irrigation projects ever. And why would you, smiling, articulate that smile . But just in general, i think that what he is working better than is working towards is that hes actually downstream of the lake. The wires that gets is, is, has already been filled with algy before it even gets anywhere near his property. So its a complicated geography and solving the problem is gonna involve both solving issues of demand for water, which is where been and his fellow users come in, but also how we fix the quality of the water in the lake itself. And thats gonna involve a lot of different land users and, and farmers further up in the watershed closer to the mountains. I suppose i was just trying to hurry along because of a responsible, our good cultural practices, the ivr on that note. And you would take me on a longer story finish. That story very clearly shows. So the users above oprah climate way to have more of an impact on their programs like nuts factors. William church had waters and um theres, theres some issues and, but again, going back to what i said, it takes a stable farms that have the normal resources in order to update systems and change practices in order to fix those issues. And were getting there, but nothing happens overnight takes time at so johnny, this is not just about agricultural practices. Theres something much deeper going on here. Can you explain . Because its theres, theres a rift between the indigenous communities and the farming communities. Joey, tell us more. Yes, and this is as difficult for me to stay as it is for an Agricultural Producer the here im we are unable to implement solutions which are in the fields and in the irrigation ditches and in ecosystem and habitat restoration. We are unable to implement those solutions because we are blinded by racism. We are, we keep trying to undermine tribal treaty law, water law and weekend, the endangered species act. And we keep kidding ourselves by saying this is an efficient irrigation system. When it isnt, its over a century year old engineering with no for thought or consideration. That water is a finite resource. And here we are in experiencing Climate Crisis and there is not enough water to go around. We cant say that were efficient irrigation system. When we dont even meter are consumptive use. So we cant, we cant claim that to efficiency. When its not we, we dont even know our actual use usage. Im from and, and thats something that i, thats difficult to. Um. Yeah. And i, i understand where youre going, um, but i can tell you this honor percent of the water you some i far as needed. And i know exactly how much im putting, how much im putting where and i can look that in not, but not all forms. Roy and stereotyping forms is as bad as, as stereotyping. Any group of people. And theres, theres a shift in a, in, in, and you can definitely see more and more farms are updating and becoming more modern in the practices. I havent got any, ill tell you would you agreed that that, that this producer is the farmers and the Indigenous People probably agree on 85 percent of what needs to get done in order to fix the basin in terms of more restoration in around the lake and, you know, support for farmers but potentially to have more flexibility in some of their contracts. Theres a whole long list. Whats frustrating for me as an, as an observer is that i think that theres a lot of agreement. But there is this sort of sense of tension that stops that agreement from happening there, there can be here. Um and i, i know um, you know, 11 comment that was made was that theres, there was a lot of broken promises to the Indigenous People and, and theres Something Else that im in complete agreement with because i havent promised from United States government that say yes, were going to deliver this much water to your farm every year. So thank you have a right to that. And so are both victims broken promises sites of any if i just made his help out what he may not have seen when the war to stop the the document . Yeah, i highly recommend you watch it. Its streaming right now. Im the samus, the homestead, as, as they were, were told by the federal government at the time that they could have an infinite amount of water. You can come here and farm and you can have as much money as you like. The Indigenous People whose land a gang to live on to walk on to farm. So also told that in the lake that they could have an infinite amount of fish that belong to them. That was part of a treaty. Federal government promised to things to, to different communities. And now we have Climate Change. And now we have a situation where those policies are not being hacked or whose promise is should be cat. First. That is the climate just as part of the conversation. A joy, i want to go back to what you were saying. Well, you just brought up racism like this is racism. I want to bring in, i a family called leroy. And then we can just k for him still ourselves. How he talks about the Indigenous People and this conflict that is going on right now. He is my not work with them. You know have you ever tried to work with the gimme with the what . A gimme. Gimme. Gimme gimme. Gimme. Much like working with the dr. Gimme gimme gimme gimme. They dont give you. Gimme gimme. Gimme gimme joey. Why cant miss conversation . Walk out that. Thats an example of why and the road blocks we have we, thats he, the humanized us to the point of a gimme. And that failure to recognize us as people or the failure to recognize the strength of our nation to nation treaty is preventing us from implementing those solutions in the fields and those irrigation does a Irrigation Systems were fighting the wrong fight in court. Im for decades irrigators have tried to come after our water rights, which have been reaffirmed water and treaty rights, which have been reaffirmed in the court for the past 20 years. And at this point, so much time has passed that we in response to leave or his comment as being a gimme. I think that we are legally affirmed in our position and morally confirmed and valid. There is no more room to give. We are in crisis. If our locally and globally we have as few as 50 to 60 harvests left before complete oil desertification. And so not only are our tribe trying to preserve this resource for us locally, but globally implementing more Regenerative Agriculture Solutions is going to save humanity. We have to find solutions, and the 1st step is addressing the strength of our treaty and acknowledging the injustices we felt. Yes, im a go ahead. I was just going to point out that, you know, i think that the route of this is the fact that these promises that were made are not all able to be fulfilled at the same time in the current regime. It is important to realize that the treaty is 864, and most of those home setting promises came later. So if youre going to look at and thats how the courts have tended to look at it, is that 1st in time, meaning the oldest promise takes precedence over the newer promises. So that is why you might hear people say, well, the tribes hold all the cards when it comes to water because the courts have said that they have the 1st in time right to the water. Whats tricky about all this is that were suing each other. Instead of getting together and coming up with solutions that work for everyone in the basin, thats what we really need to be doing. And everybody would rather be working together than suing each other. So its really frustrating when we get stuck in the cycle doing each other. I mean, im wondering if i could be, i agree um yeah. But let me, let me tell you this to you because the country is a retired farmer. Drawing on his drawing on his wisdom, this is what he told us a couple of hours ago. Who is peter is older, the crime is based on water conflict is for the Diverse Communities of the basin to work together. No political or Legal Process will create a durable and just solution until the people that share the climate bit river work together. Seek Political Leadership that brings the parties of conflict together. Look to media that does not portray villainy. But there are people only trying to survive, both farmers and tribes. The key to our survival will be conservation, innovation adaptation, and the problematic realization that time passed is not time future. Does that sound reasonable 1st by then jo, a bang . Absolutely, it sounds reasonable to me thats what weve been hoping for for a long time and jelly of course. Absolutely. And i think to get to that point, we have to agree that we are fighting for the same thing, which is how do we farm this region so that both our fish and our farmers can thrive. And that, that answers right here, boil house it. And so thats also what hes showing to us. Im just showing you healthy soil and healthy soil is healthy water, healthy fish, healthy ecosystem. But weve been so embroiled in Court Battles that we havent been able to focus on implementing the systems and the solutions that will unite us. Save our, our Agricultural Industry here, and theyve our ecosystems in our fish. Hell our communities like thats ultimately we are all just trying to survive, can thrive. Guess i, i offered up this conversation to the audience on youtube as well as watching on tv. Copper thought status very quickly. Lets make this a speed round. This is stella, dora phillip doors says the native Indigenous Peoples are not the ones that contributed heavily to pollution for Climate Change, let alone misuse the land instant reaction from you, emma. I think thats largely true. I think its also true that were in a unique situation, the climate based on that, that our own soil is so rich and nutrients that its polluting the lake, just the volcanic soil around here. So its wetland restoration, thats gonna save us in the upper basin. Another one, this one im going to put to you, been cutting edge best practices, inefficient irrigation and land quote, management of the lease thats required and greatly appreciate it. Been your thought to the farmer. My my thoughts as a farmer is that i when i went to this, typically im related to Climate Change that your did it. I your culture to hurley, sustain boyer good night. Culture like we have here in the climate basin, is one of the few ways that we can translate our food supply, agency, fetch, Climate Change, and i figure that we need to be her, be part of the solution. And when need be economically healthy and Healthy Communities are do that. Im going to bring this up point up to you j just very quickly again, on my laptop we were talking about this whole show on twitter and, and we looked at maybe this way into the conversation is racism at the root of a water war in oregon and an sd says, probably it is america. Joey, can this problem be solved . It must be thought we, we must solve our problems locally because they are a microcosm of the what were facing globally. Yes, they can be solved or else i wouldnt be here. And. And had the confidence to speak of it speak of these issues. But when you think about it, agriculture as a whole, i 98 percent of americas farm land is owned by european americans by white people. So only 2 percent of americas farm land are owned by people of color that in and of itself. Sort of example buys a problem. When i see you nodding, just very briefly as we wrap up the show, oh no i, i, i agree with that. Thats um, you know, thats, thats a fact and i dont think that we should hide from our history and the phaser mountain in the past. Oh, they said that, you know, ive heard talked about, or im waiting till im tried. She. No, theres yet, theres huge problems in the past, and i think that we need to acknowledge that so that we can work from it. So really dont repeat those same mistakes in the future. I really appreciate you having us very candid conversation and have a role on right here on the stream. Joey and ben and emma, thank you so much. Thank you. On you too. For your comments. No questions. Have a look, hale my laptop. 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