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Weve been to but the struction here also and on a very large scale how much of the town has been damaged. This is as low as it may be. You have done 50 percent completely destroyed seats minarette in crux. And again, here just goes to show again the challenge of um, bringing heavy equipment into these areas. Removing all of this and rebuilding. Uh that is the main challenge, really everywhere north koreas leader is visiting rushes. Pacific naval fleet earlier conjunction with show Nuclear Capable bombers came as on the last leg of his visit to russia. Many observers believe joan yang and moscow will entrance in arms packed. Daniel hawkins has more from moscow. This is of course more than just about weapons because though at north korea does have a lot standing on me, its got a lot of supply of subway, the restore files. 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Those are the headlines on alpha 0, then use continues here after the bottom line to stay to the higher speed limits. And i have a question 30 years after the palestinians and is really signed their historic peace plan. And also why is peace more elusive than ever . Lets get to the bottom line. The on paper, it sounded like a good idea, get palestinian and israeli leaders in a room. Far away from their people in the media and have them talk about what they could accept that bare minimum. That was the premise of the norwegian officials who broker the oslo accords. In 1993, it was supposed to be a temporary deal, but it was celebrated as a full blown priest reading. Today, palestinians have a measure of autonomy, but theyre far from free. Is real, is prospered in gain more acceptance in the region, but its still running one of the worlds longest military occupations. So it was also an epic achievement on epic mistake. And if its dead as so many palestinians and is really say, where do they go from here . Well be getting to perspective on these questions. And well start with yoshi, bail, and a former minister of justice in israel. And one of the officials who initiated the talks in oswell, you know, theres a lot of duration of aw, slow. And im interested in going from where we were to your ongoing efforts today to say, look, theres still a partner. There are still opportunities out there. What are the newer right, what, what a new oslo look like . Youll see. Well, it does look also anymore also was really as you say, didnt dream agreement, which is that was abused by the age of 80, right . In order to become a bill, money into 1. 00 and 2. 00 we uh, we had to finish it in 99 in june. We are now in 23. 00 and the we have speed in, in, in the interim agreement which never ended a. I dont think that day and the price being escaped was low in order to use darrow. I. I know that they, we didnt know what to come to us today and all that will be most elements, all the stake, a in, in the west bank and gaza. I will a was to end of your patient. But day to day it is a very different the situation. A why dont know is this will the, is that the, youll have the about a half a 1000000 settlers into westbank, wiley in the time of also your day about 100000. And they, it became the biggest hell the full full of build on that agreement of to state a solution which i believe is the only one, but the only realistic a solution. That is why a group of buddies doing is a lead the by the to people who send me in a google, if hes rarely elated by me. A bill rebuild the book about a configuration it, but its doing a is rarely configuration laws configuration in the parameters of the a youll be in your own so that the 2 states wouldnt be that totally independent and silver. But that would be a kind of an, a brand alpha configuration which would allow those, these re lease what wed find them says in the police being in states, we do accept this. It settlements to stay. There is so easily a citizens and by this opinion, the permanent residents, while the same non bill but experience, it will have the right to a come to eastward s, but his pinion is 0. 50 and use variable residents. And that has nothing to do with the solution for the refugees, which would be symbolically financial and that refugees will be gone to is where the president of a few years will we be allowed to . Is way we become for seek is is there any realistic deal myoshi that can be done given the pre eminence of the is really right in the, in the political sphere in, in, in his real or do you sense that there is an opportunity for things to begin shifting back towards the center where left the letter. I dont think that the current government is these are a news, rileys ready for these because this is the petition of the thats the point. And then youll have on both sides extreme east a and the address for the disagreement extremist, the some more minority a who believe that it is or the its, its a is 0 sum 0. So im, and do we believe in when, when and when we is possible, we know it by now because we had so many a, or we have had at least some serious attempts to find a permanent solution. Even though formally or informally. That though we know by now, by now it, what is the solution . The only point is 1st the forward, as i said before, sort of being the issue of day of day is settlers. And i believe that we have a solution for that. As i told you, and the other thing is you will have to, every does well courageous enough and are ready to accept the revised bill. All nice is that in order to get to get these, we know that people like a said is that like a rubbing and others duty falls. I hope that it would never happen again. But this is at least the day after that they will have to due date. If you have such people, then youll have peace as you and i met 20 years ago in israel, in tel aviv. And at that moment, it felt like this crisis, this ongoing ulcer in the world was strategically important. It was one of the worlds hot fault lines. And i kind of feel that with the Abraham Accords with normally normalization efforts. Right now, clearly underway between is real and saudi arabia, that this is no longer a barrier or even, you know, you know, in the way of potential normalization in the broader middle east. Are there any opportunities with this crisis becoming less strategically significant than it used to be . Yes, because it is for us vi done to have be. It is vital for the but as being is glen van to the full for free . The right so, so the donation and to and do a few patients and full as it is vital to have a, a big boulder in the eastern side of the day. I will stay in order to show that is ryan, is a jury state, which is a Democratic State and also a state for all it citizens. The common situation is very close to a situation of a jewish minority dominating and non julie is all about his opinion majority. And that is that the end of the day of the dream of desire in his dream. A weight shade did not build on a, a, taking the rights of the people who lived here. And that is, and, and now we, we can prove it. I mean, in my agreement, we double mazda in the 95, in the clinic, talk on it. Those of 2000 and in the genuine you should give us 2003 and so on and so forth, that we dont have to a date the rights of the other side in order to satisfy our own rights. So there is no real reason why not to do that, and it wont take too, too much time, hopefully, to negotiate. Because we have so much material, including an excess of hundreds of pages about what the about the electromagnetic space about the environment. You name the, we can make peace. Is joe biden doing all he can to secure the piece that youve outlined, or is he not even on the field or nothing else . I mean, i know him very well and the keys really a wonderful person and a when to read and knowledge, but a about the conflict. And he still pulls a couple schools that will state the solution. And hes a healthy that is in the right, a place. And i hope also know if, if you succeed sweet and then no money ization between ease way. And so there may be a and if the opinion easterel is on the agenda a that he, he really helped us in going to world space. But i a free that he does not to High School Fees agenda because youre not full of dishes. All file like this, and if fido is not a bill, well no, tight enough or not significantly enough. They have other priorities. I cannot blame me because it is our file. We have to extinguish it and, and, and finally, youll see when it comes to what youve articulated before by way of confederation and support for a different franklin. Going to be candid, i had not heard about this framing and you know, potential structure of governance before. Whats the appetite in israel for that . Whats the app it site on your palestinian on with your policy and contacts your why did you did indeed not become in the last a year and a half a. Hows the hows the the finish . We met weekday. The you and so good the a be stuck with you is we made to wait to the american, the secretary of state a and they we, we are the leaders and they saw him and his does especially and others in the world. People say ok if you put a students in his way to be so coming to us, it has come with helping all the to it for a implemented solution that you have already agreed up on. Like weve also, we, we really have you or do you see a speaking about the under but as being a state a or the police being a site. And i, i remember that the president , the boss is said that he was ready to have a configuration with easily is right in georgia. So i dont think that there would be a, we had a position to leap in is what i, i dont believe that it would be very simple because those who are against that those, that solution of the duplication of the land would be, or also against the configuration because as i said it is based on the population. But ive seen that, see if were really succeed in getting off the table, the issue of the settlements between making very oh is it we make it easy and look very good is easier for those leaders or the future Prime Minister is way who is committed to make peace if it is not high on he is all heritage and then i dont believe that any solution would be as and what the other solutions mean. Just say i am supporting the 2 state solution today is lucky enough. You must tell me how are you going to do that . And were suggesting that way. Well take those dates and well thank you for that. Youll see belen former is really just this minister and one of the initiators of the oslo Peace Process more than 30 years ago. Thanks so much for your candid use today. Thank you. Thank you very much indeed. Now we turned them in stop our goodie who heads the Palestinian National Initiative Party and former president ial candidate in palestine. We stop, its great to see you and to talk to you, look, i mean, you heard my conversation with former minister of justice in his real go see bail and who was involved with the hospital force is 30 years. And im trying to figure out where were going in the future. What are the Building Blocks to finally move . What i sort of see is one of the word worlds. Worst. Humanitarian alters towards a much healthy or equilibrium. And id love to get your insights and reactions i think at the moment was that that, that was built for the Senior Leadership of the piano and defended. And thats why i say so, because also i agreement does not include the most by the element which we were insisting on with the chevy, who was the head of the washington d. Which is that before concluding. I mean, i agree meant that it has to be complete the thought of stop before the settlement activities. Not 20, because is there any set to do because were really good according to international law, but also because some of the lot of the maintenance to make the desires movement used and continues to use to kind of push this. And actually thats exactly what happens. Because of the agreement does not include complete until the start of the one. So it is the number of really upset levels have increased. So 121019932 more than 700. 50000. 00 to the that includes of course, the 2nd less than these 2 and im done today and that 50 lives have become not on the a group that is ok if i include because he the last. But there has become a decisive force and is today the politics. They have for a few numbers and that is there any commissions. They are the ones who produced fascism in israel and the administrators likes most of the can be viewed. Who dont try always. If im calling them, so specialist from the folks who uh said that there is no place for the city and state. And then again, the goal is to send those to banquets up to this. So that was thing is with the annual for staples, dental, and their solution is the other thing is either should integrate or accept the life of subjugation for this system if i find, or i do believe that the ultimate goal then of the is really is, is to use the peace negotiations, you know, essentially as a way to annex and, and, and to kind of fully annex the west bank. Yeah, absolutely. I think if i look historically, what happens is maybe some good will some people on the side, but the t, the onset one petals to the fields that is also the fast. And the father, which has 4, is written to sit down and negotiate by the students. Because theres a lot, but i q patient in the same way because as the younger existence and this all in addition to the fusing, the 5, the 2nd of good was to be in time. So thatd be a kind of continual the one on the, on supplement project of settling jewish isnt it is in the occupied territories. In reality, what happens in the band computing the lot stuff to use and even before is not dispense from . What does that do to 1948 is where the good at the senior level we have for them the on the some of the people, the dismiss, the 70 percent of the standards of the established by the students on that fine. 82 percent on the, on the, on the 3. 5 percent of the where is this today is continuing the same process and this not going to started. So and b i t, what we faced with is im looking at it, its our new one of 5 states. Were not as lucky house as that is of those as a new policies in my conversation with us. He bail. And a minute ago, he talked about a framing i hadnt heard about before, which sort of a consideration style government to governments that largely exist under a, you know, what under attend, if you will. And said that he talked to, to gutierrez in the united nations, talked to all the mazda and a lot of people have given a week and nod to this possibility and said they could live with that. Can you live with the confederation . What are your views of this confederation proposal . And i totally disagree with mr. The amendment to pause and i will explain to you why. First of all, uh, in my opinion, also i agreement i could with the, the supplement expense. And uh, the framework of, uh, what is called consideration is also trying to accommodate the sacraments and the satellite is legally in those denies and violates international. And then that is exactly the same kind of process that was submitted and was involved in the agreements. Graduated agreements without insisting on stopping the main problem, which is supplements that i can use, the 2 states option. And because of that kind of policy, we end up losing. The whole idea is to get solution, i think is already kim and speaking well, ive come from that asian, why it was because the same time about isnt it as it was, the only is that the nation of everything from national and my opinion, the only solution that can substitute a you have a few of one of our types to is i want to do more kinetic state with everybody. But the city ends on isabel is enjoying the same rice with a city. I just want to have them up on the civil rights and thats also the nation of rights and will have the same, but i sense determination. But in slavery, palestinians in the so called the configuration, why is that the, the man in the us bank . And even without the 1st thing you have, if you diesel, at the split from their homeland in 1948. That by itself is nothing but an effort to come with the doing of the commission to commit the sacrament expansion. And it is a way of adjusting adjusting the situation. The deluxe is the governments loan. But also, besides the point that we had an island isnt as a refresher and the, the most exciting institute of this vision. And these guys will not accept through steps, do not accept, want to stay at all. They want is to give you that extra step on this thing and see if they would not be stopped by another round of negotiations. They wouldnt be stuck on the buy. This thing is insisting on this, that fastness and the defense. And by add to avoid cutting the Customer Insights and its going to be, i guess, the system a staffer or excuse me, Abraham Accords matter to what you are trying to achieve or are they irrelevant . As you look at the prospects of put a potential salary is really normalization. Does that undermine palestinian situation . Or is this just all surface noise that really doesnt matter to your efforts . What its most to be accurate . From on 5 its a step in the back of the palestinians because of the whole idea of normalization that was initiated by the system. Of course, the design was made or established by the hour and so the whole idea of normalization is about liquidating the policy managed by the student, which is thats exactly what nothing else is often the says, the problem is most of our students, we should make it feasible that us, but in all these actions, you get to the fact that there is nothing uh more with body or with the image is the problem with the students because it does look to buy the land. But as you saw in money from one side, these agreements, of course, had it to the privacy again because because it is used by isnt it into matters you know, like the new issue. But on the effects of a starter l. All hes gone for this, the does not have this lady standing to come on to other students. I mean, we know that for many years, many of them have secret relations with isnt the most important point that dismissed the bike is very nice and by the International Community is that theyve gotten this of the governments normalization. The people of these countries do not know my look because i had these agreements with egypt since 1978. They had a Peace Agreement with jordan since 1994 or do they have normalization with the people . Some of these companies, of course not on the speak about a few minutes on the egyptian or the t wants to visit with jordan. Right . So in reality, these normalization activities do not have access to by the peoples of these countries and stay on the surface. And the issue with governments, not with the guns. Finally mustafah, im just interested in how you see the future. Do you see time on your side . Do you see time on the is really side. You know, what do you see in palestine that will be free . One day, absolutely. So domestic about that, and i know i, thats pretty kind of this of the, of, and we have service. Im going to buy the behavior to so many governments and dont want specially wisdom governments will keep speaking about to step solution by doing nothing to stop that that, that is significant. This is what im not even a tenant is read, solve the problem is, are we looking for sanctions . And regardless of the one that i viewed the same question has never been understood. What is life as it is to the and i believe thats the kind of thing and people, i mean by that all of the seasons, whether they live inside is read or in the occupied. If it is often they ask us on the find on united now about the goal of what the want as a disparity, i believe that we wouldnt get to leave them. My thoughts about fabulous. Do you think it will not be as to be them within a small its a step in get pause that isnt and instead of just by cutting the back into pieces, it would be 3 of them within one democratic 3 states, a democratic steve. And i see that clearly im hoping is the only solution to the situation that we have. So the democratic steve is the only substitute to i thought id see steve to the i think you definitely have to when we stop our goody head of the Palestinian National Initiative Party. Thank you so much for your candor and for joining us today. Thank you. Thank you so much. So whats the bottom line . When we look at how nations behavior are essentially no rules, there is no morality, just energy. Real is believe it anarchy has to be bent to rules and norms through the use of hard power. No one understands hard power more than the israelis and palestinians. The words israel survived against its eric neighbors power to emerge from. And so to eventually palestine will need power on its side to establish a different future equilibrium with israel. The problem for palestine today though, is it as move from being one of the worlds fault lines, to becoming a strategically less significant, more in quagmire, but making the moral case and shaming the nightmare of occupation is just not going to be enough to solve this long standing occupation and that regrettably is the bottom line. The on selection questions is war with rwanda. Imminent rigorous to be your dying because of lots of medical treatments black lives, dont really matter. In the police. Join me markham on hill upfront. What else is there . How do you state control information . How does the narrative improve Public Opinion . How is this as intended . This and we flaming the story . The listening post, i think the media, we dont cover the news, we cover the way the news is cover. 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