that turkish air drones, a killed 2 sd of members. one of them is that to be a high rank, as they have a member and media local to the us, the f says that the syrian government has deployed more reinforcements and towards co. bonnie and the cooperation and the joint military pat rules will with it between the americans and the as c. f a has continues. according to the sd of media. tens of thousands of police and soldiers are sealed off a city in el salvador as part of a national crackdown on criminal gangs. almost 60000 people have been arrested since resume book. kelly declared a state of emergency 9 months ago. after a wave of killings. south africa as president says he will not resign despite a scandal about stolen money. serial rama post, so was investigated for failing to report the theft of millions of dollars from his farm in 2020 and independent panel found he may have violated his oath of office. russia says it will not accept a price cap on its oil, announced by western allies aimed at limiting a major source of funding for its war in ukraine. on friday, the group of 7 nations, australia and the you announced the limit of $60.00 a barrel on russian oil. imported by c is really fine to just have targeted training camps in the southern gaza strip. the facilities belong to armed groups in con eunice and are not believe to be in use. yes, rice followed a rocket attack from gaza on friday. brazilian football star play has been moved to end of life care after his chemotherapy treatment reportedly stopped working. fella took to social media to say that he feels strong and his whole for messages of support and get well wishes of been screened around doha. and those are the headlines on al jazeera. i'll be back with more use right after talked to al jazeera to stay with us. ah no. i am rest and said that in a sambal pot, the last month attack that killed 6 people in the cities tourist district. the turkish government blamed b. o. curtis on workers, party or peak equity, and his equity is a good in neighboring countries. in response, uncut launch air strikes against kurdish fighters in northern iraq and syria. turkey has also threatened to launch a ground operation into north and syria to secure assault and border. do as an russian government have won against such a move. but if the turkish military goes ahead with a ground offensive, what will be its white original impact? and is the turkish government taking this measures as a political strategy ahead of the next year general election? will put that to the man who has served as a member of the turkish national security and foreign policy council chief adviser to president project. i add one, the turkish presidential spokesman abraham. colin talked to out his heel. deborah con turkish presidential spokesman, thank you for talking, talk to us. thank you, mr. colon. since the november 13 bomb been here in the heart of a stumble, turkish officials have insisted that they want a ground offensive in syria and weeks how passed. so where did king stand now, in the recent incident, when the terrorists attacked her, the civilians on stickler street, which is day, you know, the, one of the kind of heart points you know, main points of his stumble ah, of course we had to was and our initial response was to coordinate and conduct a number of air operations. and of course, depending on the threat level, ah, as assessed by our intelligence and our for defense ministry and other related agencies. we will go after the stairs, whether from the air or from the ground. so the attack in a stumble have triggered all of this, or preparations for a potential are ground offensive in syria. and you accused why pj, you off being behind the attack. in stumble, however, some argue that turkey is using this as an excuse to attack. why pj do you have any substantial evidence that white pg is responsible for that? yes, we do. in fact, we have established very clearly y p g p y the was behind this attack, we have the person who carry that who brought the bomb and who carried out the tag . but also people who facilitate the arrival of that person, a lady in recent years, p k. a has change it's, it's is it's tactics now rather than using like syrian se, kurds or others, they're using other people from different nationalities to kind of covered themselves up. you know, behind us, behind, as, as that way was clearly a coordinated by b, p y, d y, p g for this potential ground offensive. if you decide to conduct the, at what is going to be the extent of this ground operation geographically. and also whether it's objectives. so, and what is the timeline for accomplishing the mission? for us? i any, an old p k k p y, the y p g establishment elements, posts, military points are legitimate targets for us. whether they are in western, syria or in eastern syria, northern syria, near the border, are far away from it. they are legitimate targets because they are terrorist organizations and we go after them to protect our borders. we know that americans also have a heavy military presence there. so isn't that going to create a risk of direct military confrontation between 2 largest natal members, namely turkey do us? that's why we have the conflicting mechanism with americans and the russians. we don't target russian or american soldiers or military posts in syria or anywhere else. are seeing that our p k k p y d y p g elements. and we tell them to stay very of course, from those elements. you said p y d y, p g is using at one point the american flat at another point, the regime flag to protect itself. saying that you see, you cannot attack us because there american see, you cannot attack us because that our region forces here, sometimes they do this with the russians less so recently. but in the past that i think shows the extent to which people, p y, d, y, p g is using their alliance with the united states to legitimate the wrong process . in northern syria, americans are seeing that your recent f strikes in syria are put in american soldiers life and risk. do you agree with that? no, no. v, as i said, we have communicated this message very clearly to our american allies that we don't target americans. we don't target civilians, we don't, we don't target russians or iranians or others. our targets are specifically p k, k, p y d y p g elements. mister collins, syria is a multi player ground. have you been in touch with damascus to round and moscow? so, and what is the nature of the negotiations with these capitals? while we coordinate, of course, with russia and with iran, not only say military operations, but also the refugee association military and a political process as a number of other things. big file. we don't have direct contact with such as him, except for our intelligence services. and they've been talking to each other, you know, when they need to. and that's mostly to coordinate either security related issues or refugees or some other things. but of course, the syria conflict has turn into a frozen conflict right now, the world has forgotten. the world's attention has not moved to ukraine. but the syrian problem is still out there has not been a result. there are many shareholders stakeholders in syria. that's why i'm asking that particularly what had been the nature of the negotiations with to ron and moscow. did they approve your operation or did they give you a green light for that? but we don't ask for permission. we just coordinate with our allies when we face and national security threats. in regards to the political situation in syria, of course, it remains a source of threats and uncertainty for everyone, not just for us, for iraq, for jordan, you know, for other countries as well. europe, etc, coming back to the potential turkish ground defensive in syria. us has reportedly offered you to read through y p g from terrified to stop you tech and y p g. can you confirm that it is the case and what the warehouse telling here? no, i have seen this report in the media, but we have what we have told the americans is that we already have an agreement back in the sign that back in 2019. and if they stick to that agreement, i mean the p y, d y, p g, and of course they have to force p y divide. we don't have contact with them. you know, to stick to that agreement and move away that 30 kilometers from the focus border. then we don't have a problem. but we don't have that kind of a deal that, you know, if you stop this, we will move this or we will put our soldiers in between etc. we had that agreement already before, as i said, with americans with the russians also. but when the facts continue, yes. yeah, it doesn't work. of course, you know, it's not our side that is breaking the agreement. is there violating the agreement? not us. what is the white house telling you specifically about your your military preparations to conduct a crown facet in syria? now, while they are saying that they are concerned, but we are telling them, look, you're concerned we are attacked. there is a difference between the 2. being concern is one thing being attacked in the heart of a stumble, being attack in the border city of order for the car comes and losing 6 people here, 3 people there. and then potentially more people is a whole different thing. but washington says that a turkish crown, the fancy in syria will further destabilizes ration impact in the fight against iso . and also there are some reports that suggest there are some $10000.00 iso prisoners in the area is controlled by y p g and y, p g representative said that if turkey a tax, they cannot guarantee that they can keep this prisoners there. so by weakening ceiling, democrats forces, which y p g is backbone. don't you think that you are opening the door for isolated to return to the borders? no, to the contrary. actually, it shows that p y d y p g is using isis or dice, prisoners as political hostages for political negotiations to get more support, military support, weapons, money, political support, media support from the americans and from the europeans. president avalon has said he won't rule out a meeting with syrian president fisher. is that still a possibility? and how soon do you think that this meeting will happen? i don't know if or when it will happen. honestly. we have to see a lot of work to be done on the ground. will the regime take a very clear stance against p k k p y, d y, p g and other elements and syria? so that's number one, conditions down. well, yes, i said, you know, the reason why you have severed the relationship with this saturday, him back in 2011, 2012 was because of what was happening and see what happen. you remember when we had good relationship with, with this other regime with mr. assad himself, our president, we were working on improving our relationship. and in fact, our president was the 1st to tell president assad that the time to recognize the rights of the syrian purch. long before anybody talked about the currency of a meeting with l. a sat maybe jewel, politically beneficial, but with damascus continued attacks its own population. so what are the moral grounds for such a meeting and also shoot the city in a position worried that they may lose across support. we continue to support us legitimate syrian opposition. we have done so in a very steadfast manner, despite the fact that almost the entire world has forgotten them. europeans have forgotten them. americans forgotten the many arab countries so forgotten them. but we have not. as i said, we don't have any immediate plan for such a meeting, but our president is basically sending a message that look, if you act responsibly, if you address the security concerns and allow the political process to move forward, then you know, i might be prepared to take that step to advance the political process to protect the syrian people, establish a regional peace and security, and also establish peace and order along the turkish assyrian border. if this things happen, then i'm willing to give it a chance. so he's not saying that he will be meeting out of the blue or just for the sake of meeting. no, he is the leader who has carried the brunt of this battle almost single handedly. for the last 10 years, we are not only hosting for 1000000 seating refugees in turkey, but also we are looking after another 4 or 5000000 syrian id peas and other people on the syrian side. as i said, that's almost half a serious population. mister cullen, a turkeys military activities in syria and iraq cannot be disconnected from the other regional, the allotments nato fashion, your delicate ties with moscow, the war in ukraine, the grain deal. are you using an internal security issue to benefit at the extra level? no, not at all. the security threats are coming from outside. we're responding to them . you know, we don't want to get involved in any kind of military operation unless it's a necessity. so defensive war, we want to continue to focus on our economic development or on our defense industry, on investing more in education, our health system, trade industry, export import, and other things. but when you are face as a country with a security threat, you have to respond to it. so this is not something a good whiting, but, you know, say the war in syria instability insecurity in iraq. the station say in the, in the caucasus, or in the gym or the war in ukraine. you know, we don't, we have not started this worse. we have no interest in continuing any of this conflicts to the country. we've been telling everybody all stakeholders that region peace and security is in the interest of everyone. so let's try to find a solution. the relations with predominantly procured dish h d, p, and curves in general in turkey. have all these been delicate issues. so what is now happening behind the scenes h t p is represented in the turkish parliament. they voted by the people and elected. but the problem is that h t p has not been able to take a very clear stance against the p k. k. and the ties with various p k k elements are bell no, and they don't, they don't denies. and that of course raises a lot of question marks about their standing about their legitimacy about the policies. but of course, we respect the will of the people who vote for them, but of course we question the political motives and their inability to distinguish themselves clearly from the p k. k. so you, how does your government see a future political process with h d p? and car, so s d p and wipers. you are not the same correct while they're not. but the 1st of all, let me put it this way. the p kid doesn't represent the kurtz, just as dies of kai, that does not represent muslims. you don't want a global scale, p k, k doesn't represent the curse. they're at the vast majority course do not work for p k. k. a for from the current public. there are they have. so as i said, they are legitimately elected into the parliament. was a respect, but if you can, it will be wrong. it will be an insult to the curse themselves. to say that p k k h d p or p y d y p g representative. moving on to the brother region. prison ad one has criticized egypt, human rights records. and also he has criticize several of western countries of embracing presence. you see in this ration, which came to power after a crew that killed hundreds off people. so after 9 years, why does uncle i seem to be keen to normalizes relations with coyote and by doing debt? aren't you also adopting the same very policy that you have been concise in 4 years? there is a change in the entire gulf region and to remember the problems, not only of each egypt a co attend, and people being killed as a put, put in prison at political prisoners, but also blockade against katara. ah, there's alliance between saudi arabia and u. e. and egypt and few other countries against not only cut out, but also against us. this was a, a regrettable period where i think the last lot of political, economic, and social opportunities, not things began to change cutters to this ground. amir of cuts are came out stronger the statesmen, out of that crisis. and then other countries began to revise the policies and they said they realize, okay, you know, maybe this is not the way to go. and maybe they were frustrated. i think they were disappointed by the american policies, by the policies of other european countries, etc. so they, they changed, they began to change where things haven't changed in egypt still, there are rise where lation is coming to that you see the whole thing. i mean, the whole political landscape has changed over the last year or so in the gulf, all the way from, from gulf to egypt, mediterranean, and other places. and v v saw this as an opportunity and we will come to welcome that develop will present everyone and prison cc have a former meeting anytime soon. nothing is plan at this point, but we will see how things go as again, there are things that need to be done by both sides. but it's good that, you know, a handshake has taken place to address these issues. sometimes this constellation of interests and perspectives change and they create some opportunities and you go for those offices. so your government has changed its approach to some golf countries like united arab emirates, and the kingdom of saudi arabia. how will you describe now your relations with, without the and yet, and in the past, even some of the officials from your government have accused united arab emirates, a financing the field, quit them in 2016. so what has changed there? we have turn a new page, we believe we shall join our forces, economic, political, social forces, social capital to help and, and increase and deepen the regional peace and stability that is in everybody's interest. so how does your government see the wrongs grooving, influence in lebanon in yemen, iraq and syria. do feel threat it. we have always believed that iran shall be engaged rather than isolated, engaging iran, including them in the geopolitical picture of the region and the, and why the region is always a better option than isolating or attacking iraq. now having said that, of course, we know that the countries that you mentioned also express concern from time to time because of the iranian enrollment. so all of this is dynamics and a different approach of the policies. don't you feel threatened by the iranian grove in inference? it's not so much being threatened, but rather trying to get all the perspectives and interest of all key players in the region, you know, closer to one another. again, differences will there be there will be differences. no doubt on certain issues, but you know, we advise them, iranians included to have a regional perspective so that you know, the empower each other rather than fight against each other. so moving on away from the region, how would you assess your relationships with moscow and washington, are you standing in the middle despite being a major nato? remember, we see foreign policy as a 360 degree engagement. we don't, we don't see there's a mutual exclusive game where, you know, if you, if you are part of an alliance like nato, for example. then you cannot have engagement with russia or why so versa, not a 0 sum game. i think we've proven the value of this policy over the years, especially given took his geopolitical location in our position between east and west north and south and our larger hinterland which is a blessing of our history and culture and geography. and if you use it properly, it's a blessing. but if you don't, then it becomes a burden at the seek to maintain this balance between different stakeholders. you didn't join the other nito members who have decided to put sanctions on moscow for a very specific and i think solid reason which we have explained to our allies for mainly to reasons. number one, we don't want to be affected by sanctions, and we don't want to penalize our on economy. we have all of the been affected negatively by all the sanctions against iran, against iraq in the past, against other countries, not against russia. why shall we penalize the nature of our economy relations with russia such that in implementing sanctions on russia will jeopardize our economy, our economic interests more than the russian economic interests. and it will not change the russian behavior in any significant way anyway. but number 2, reason which is as important is the fact that we've said from the very beginning of this conflict, that if ever of the burns bridges with russia who's going to talk to them at the end of the day for negotiations and talk, i was about to actually ask about that so far, any attempt to bring prison put in and prison soleski around an excuse and have a table. they all have failed. so do you see any concrete possibilities of a such a meeting? i know prisoner has been very much came to see them negotiate and around a table with the think of that. well, i mean giving the realities on the ground. it's not that likely to happen immediately, but we believe it's possible and we will continue to work on it. if there are 2 sides to this conflict, one is russian occupational ukrainian land, which shall come to an end, no doubt about the russian forces of the throw from ukrainian land. ukraine's territorial integrity shall be re, establish ukraine, shall be given security guarantees to protect itself, to defend itself against any future aggression of this type. there's no question about that. and ukraine shall be supported economically for its reconstruction because in many cities have been, have been destroyed. and there should be more support for 40 percent. and militarily, as well, militarily. of course, as i said, for their own self defense, they need, they need that support. but this is one level of the conflict. the other one is what's happening at the larger geopolitical level. and that, that there, what you have is a hedge, a monic power struggle between russia and the west. there needs to be another engagement at the geopolitical level where a new deal and you bargain if you like, between russia and the west needs to be struck a get just talking about a new regional order. yes. what we are seeing right now is cold war 2.0. it started with ukraine. war will probably continue in some other ways. a symmetrical war, hybrid war, and many other types of war probably will continue until unless we see the larger geopolitical picture. bring the key stakeholders together and establish the parameters of a new grand global deal, a new security architecture where everybody feels part of that process. everybody owns the process. nobody tries to impose anything in a hierarchical manner on others. nobody sees others as inferior, but rather as equal partners i to i relationship. finally, mr. cullen, tricky and hungry are the last to need to members to ratify sweden and finland, accession to the military alliance. when will you rectify it? and will it happen anytime before the next year's election? these signed an agreement with finland and sweden at the last nato summit. and. and we established a permanent mechanism to address these issues and to advance this process. and we have laid out our terms very clearly, our swedish and finish colleagues know what they are and they are making progress as part of the agreement to implemented the conditions of the agreement. they are making progress that are of the sweets introduce a constitutional amendment. they are now making a legal changes to follow up on this on these steps. big steps that sets fi jordy maps. we have specific issues that we have raised and shared with our colleagues state and they are making, they're working on them. they're making progress and we acknowledge and appreciate that progress. but there are still threats for our national security in those countries. and they know we're what they're look for sweden and finland to make a decision to join nato. after 200 years of military neutrality is a paradigm shift in their political history. and now turkey's dawned obstacle. no, we're not up. we're not that we're helping them to get rid of the security threats . look, one of the key elements of natal alliance is to fight against terrorism. nato is not a tourism club. it's not a christian club, but it's not a social club is a security alliance. which means that the security concerns of all members need to be address equally. there are no hierarchies there as we take the security concerns of our nato allies, any one of them, the base they are expected to take our secular to consumers very seriously as well . and i think is mutually empowering. windman station i think will, will, will help us go through this process once, you know they complete their work and they take this concrete steps than the process one before, but i'm couldn't turkish presidential spokesman. thank you for talking to my pleasure. oh yeah, i was a good bye with what is all about the festival is celebrating, the manasseh, your culture, which is the middle east, north africa and south asia. tonight we are celebrating south asia in another part of town. a mother picks up her children from school. she's a busy mother of 2 who works part time yet you still find time to volunteer cut there has received a record number of volunteer application up. any people world cup this group of go on a fans live and work in cats, off they'll get to see their team play in the country. they've helped to transform our program, although it got to park a very broad well behind me here. you can make out the fee for fund festival, that's where up to $40000.00 support is good, much matches on big screen with with a diverse range of stories from across the gland. from the perspective of on networks journalists on al jazeera, ah, turkey reportedly targets military side, same nor then here. yes, saying it will go off to kurdish on groups anyway, to protect it. security interests. ah. are you watching al jazeera life from? 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