Materials that needed to put out fires of the i hello again, the headlines on al jazeera sees foreign, gaza appears to be Holding Egypt mediated. The deal between israel and the Palestinian Group is lot of g had the un katara were also involved in brokering the truth. At least 40 for palestinians, mostly civilians were killed in the 3 day conflicts which began on friday. 15 of them were children al jazeera, as you say, it has this update from gaza this morning. As the cease fire holds cautiously and after a security assess assessment done in, in e israel. They have personally opened the crossings that came up with selim crossing and the areas crossings, israeli authorities said that the kid him over selim crossing is partially open for humanitarian aid, food supply, medical supply, and fuel. And eric crossing has been opened in front of during the list, patient diplomat and un official to enter the gaza strip. 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On monday, china began conducting its largest ever military exercises after taiwan hosted the u. S. How Speaker Nancy Pelosi last week, sunday was expected to be the final day of military activities in the region. Inside story is coming up next, a by assassination is dissident destabilizing the democratic process. You will, you, it was it, it will be a loss for holding a documentary explorer. How autocratic leaders undermined democracy to consolidate their power through the eyes of those who dare to stand and defy it. Our country deserves so much better than being ruled by a cleft aquatic dictatorship, opposing autocracy. Democracy maybe on al jazeera is really or strikes kill more civilians in gaza. Palestinian leaders say the cycle of violence needs to end. So whats lead it to deliver permanence piece . And how does this latest round of attacks jeopardize mediation efforts made so far . This is inside story. Ah. Hello and welcome to the program. Im dead, you navigate on israel has carried out a 3rd day of air strikes on gaza. The military says its targeting the positions of arm groups including Palestinian Islamic jihad. But its civilians who are bearing the brunt of the worst violence since last years 11 day war. Dozens of people including children, have been killed since friday. Thats when israel launched the attacks to prevent the Islamic Jihad for retaliating. After the arrest of one of his commanders and the occupied west bank, the arm group has fired more than 500 rockets into israel, palestinian prime minister. How much stay says the cycle of violence must stop. I know how one with a cutter, and this happens once a year, every few months, the aggression on garza, this aggression just stop once and for all way. We cannot just sloane to stop one aggression so that israel can carry out another aggression later. And this should be referred to the International Criminal court, and the fall this on the table in front of the International Criminal court. Well, lets take a look at some of the efforts to end. The violence and egyptian intelligence delegation visited israel on saturday before traveling to gaza on sunday cutter. A mediator in last year as conflicts are spent billions of dollars helping to rebuild gaza. It has reaffirmed support for palestinians while calling for International Pressure on israel to stop attacking civilians. The u. S. Department says it stands by israels right to defend itself. Other countries, including morocco and the united arab emirates, have previously offered to help mediate between the israelis and palestinians. Ah, lets bring in our gas. Joining us from dublin is the asset assad who is an academic and specialist on the israeli. Palestinian conflict in cambridge. Boston is that on the hoody, a professor at the American University, a bay ruth and a senior fellow at the Harvard Kennedy school. And joining us from washington, d. C is down our belt scholar and residence at the center for is really studies at the American University dance. Also a former is really diplomatic negotiator in the israel syria piece talks. What warm welcome to you all. Thanks so much for joining us on insight story yesterday. Over in dublin, you say that if we see some sort of ceasefire or mediation agreement, it will be similar to previous agreements. You say that the short term views are the real problem. Can you explain that thought process . Yes course, i think as i said before, what we have seen in recent years is short term agreements that address the core issues in terms of california rights in terms of National Rights in terms of the wind, its way to kind of thing and conflict that what were seeing recently in terms of gather is especially focused on that Human History and is a special focus on short term security and a focus on reconstruction, which hasnt been really happening in the recent years. So as a result of the core issues including pallets and you arrive in a few things just including the nation, 3, the end of occupation in the tide. All of those issues havent been addressed in those mediation, short term agreements. And therefore, i think the issues are going to continue, the conflict is going to continue. Or what we have seen as were only a shirt that only a short term process in terms of managing this issue. But we also have seen we have seen that the process itself, mediation has focused on conflict management and not conflict resolution. And therefore from my perspective, those short term agreements and conflict management processes will not produce effective results in the long term. And i mean, who can you weigh in on the if you say that any mediation tries to return calm to the gaza strip. But calm, according to you is an unacceptable situation. Tell us why. Of course, calm is a siege. Restrictions are israelis shooting, killing palestinians, arresting people will, stopping the fishermen from working in the sea and women. And its a total low seed situation, which is a function of the long term relationship between israel and zionism on one hand, and the Palestinian People on the other. So calm is not something that the palestinians see as the long term at fortune. Of course, in the short term, it is very good to stop the killing and the fighting and the shooting on both sides or whoever is in wound a. But this happens regularly because the underlying issues are not addressed as the egyptian government. Its fascinating that its the Security Intelligence agencies in egypt that are in charge of this. So this is a security issue for egypt. Fact, everythings a secure issue for each of the, like most are countries and the, the is the gypsies are doing a good job and trying to stop the actual destruction and killing her, but not doing anything more than that in terms of a longer term, the horizon of some expectation that the palestinians can live a decent life and one day have the same rights to statewood and sovereignty in peace and security of the israelis. Though with the exceptions, do this because it, it makes them look good with so many audiences that are important to them. They are their own population of the American Government up front. So the as rarely government that deals with them of the palestinian population. So if egypt can project itself as somebody whos trying to reduce the suffering of people and gazda, it resonates with a bunch of different audiences that are important to for. And so this is typical of the situation where our governments use the palestine issue for their own purposes while same time digits, of course, controls the southern gates of gas as compared to with israel in the siege of right. And egypt, of course, being one of the mediators currently trying to, to, to mediate some sort of a truce. It done or bell, to what extent do you think israel is looking for a way out day 3 of the talks on gaz. Other have been more than 500. 00 rockets fired ad israel sirens heard and tele vive i believe the israel would be looking favorably at going for a truce a ceasefire. I believe that israel has achieved most of its goes in the operation and launched on friday. And i think that with israel needs now is security guarantees that none of jihad will not be. You know, once a truce is agreed, the will be violated by these on jihad and rockets would be fired again from the gaza strip into israel. I think that there is a good chance that the ceasefire is around the corner. And unfortunately, this is something that weve been seeing year after year or year in year out, and there is no military solution to this issue. I think its only a diplomatic solution to this issue that could pave the way for a long term arrangement where, where, where theres come, there is no violence and that both sides tend to their own issues rather than focus on confronting one another. Right . So than me is really army had previously said that actually there are currently no negotiations with Islamic Jihad over a cease fire. I mean as bad just for the publics consumption. Then i think that over the years theres never been direct negotiations between israel, hamas, and previous confrontations or with israel and Islamic Jihad, its always done through 3rd parties. And as my previous speak, the previous speaker noted the gyptian role. The contrary role, there are other, the un other actors that are stepping in and trying to broker a cease fire between is run is done and you have, i do not believe that there is a direct contacts or talks between is run is done. If you had, yes, you were mentioning a moment ago that the cycle of violence will continue if, if the issues at stake are, are not really addressed. I mean, its such a big question to you, but what needs to be done for the issues to be addressed so that the cycle of violence does not happen over and over. I dont think i was talking about the cycle of violence. Those talk about issues with issues need to be addressed and its important that were talking about continuing israeli occupation. Were going were talking about god being under siege for a long time. And thats important. Remember, were talking about responsive, elation god, that were living on. When were talking about people in jerusalem being effected out of their homes being forced out of their own, were talking about the funny thing is as well and is facing discrimination addresses. So for me, this is a question of these, of our occupation that needs to be addressed in order to have just and know or have just be on an order to have security for a whole for all People Living in the region. Your read this to speak, i was talking about security guarantees. Israeli is looking for in terms of gather what about security guarantees for palestinians who have been on the occupation for more than 60 years. What about security guarantees for gather, for people in guys who have been receiving their rockets and civilians who are losing their, their, their security and their lives are really what about security for punish thing in the west bank at jerusalem. So the respective on public being a security is not recognized while the respective on the security is recognized. And therefore that speaks to an important issue, which is the power relationship between palestinians and israelis. And israel continues to be a powerful, powerful countries continues to be continued to how far for military continue to enjoy support from the United States and, and the palestinians. Im not talking to them. Im not talking about them a victim. But the reality is they are living on those railey and israeli regina about bar tide, occupation. And this needs to be addressed down. Is that ultimately about the occupation . Yes, it is saying, and also i mean multiple human rights organizations including Human Rights Watch in 2021 describing israel, systematic oppression, and institutional discrimination against Palestinians Amnesty International as well in 2022, calling israel as apartheid against palestinians accrual system of domination ultimately is it about the occupation the 1st of all, id like to say that gaza is not under israeli occupation. Israel left the gaza strip in 2005 bowing not to come back. And so since 2005 to 17 years, israel is not been inside guys, a lot anti does. But lets talk to solve that. Its certainly controls the land. See an error doesnt not correct. So. So what, what, what im getting at is, and as i believe that the 2 state solution is the way forward is the way to resolve is really posted in conflict. Having a state of israel living side by side with a palestinian future palestinian state in peace. And security, and once you know that, that happens, then all these issues would be on the table, including the end of occupation, including other aspects of borders, settlement security, and then it could be those issues can be address. But lets not forget that. Whos the aggressor here and the having the house in Islamic Jihad holding the entire population of southern israel as hostage threatening to fire rockets and occasionally doing that. And so, nor not, no normal country could allow itself to actually allow this to happen. And so is well have to respond is well have to launch this preemptive strike or to deal with this issue. And lets talk about Islamic Jihad there. Know, mother, the reason they are a terrorist organization backed by iran and vowing to destroy the state of israel. So israel has the right to defend itself has the right also to worry about security. And i agree that post insecurity is important and should be addressed as well. I dont know, would you like to weigh . And i saw you, i would want it to. Yeah. Please who had several of the to come in on some of that answer in the present that a very sophisticated and impressive presentation of israeli propaganda and speaking points which have been swallowed hook line of st. There by the American Government. The british government, them are those around the region. The idea that all they want is piece and no rockets out of gas or eat it sounds good, but the reality is that whoops, like a slimy tahoe like hm, a sledge as well, like they are wing of fetish like the p, f o p, and the d f o p and previous militant left wing groups in the 60s, seventies, and eighties. Every one of these Palestinian Resistance farm movements in palestine are outside came about as a response to continued israeli attacks, occupation, subjugation of fort hood racism imprisonment, expulsion killing arrest. Or its incredible that the israelis on zionism for a 100 years have not been able to deal with the reality of palestinian nationalism and sovereign rights and post. And even though he says im, im happy to hear him say that he would like to stay solution, which is what i work for my life. I was born in 48. This is great to hear, but it is not what the Israeli Government does. It is not what the American Government does and the reality of these reach one after the other emerging was brothers, the harass, and all these cheap emerging that are focused on in fact, many of them came out of jobs, which is fascinating. Wasnt, has been the incubator, the post and the nationalism resistance and relevant resistance for about the last 50 or 60 years. Its always a response to what the israel is doing. So this cycle has to be seen as a cycle in which the israel is from zionism. Or doing terrible things, and the palestinians are responding and they do the terrible things sometimes when they fire mis are they used to do a bomb, bombs and buses. And both sides have use different tactics. So we can criticize. But the main thrust of why this continues is because of the where the zionism and the really government continue to apply their policy as well camouflaging them. And this very sophisticated Public Relations approach that doesnt work anymore. So the whole basically accept the american presidency. A few people in congress, people in England Running for prime minister, this individual will repeat these lines. Israel has a right to defend itself, but the majority of Public Opinion around the world is saying we want equal rights, or israel is published, an engine. That means reality not frederick, and i hope we can move from rhetoric to reality and post it in a put the cards on the table anytime for a 2 state solution. But the, the israel is on the americans and others do not respond. Ok, just back to the issue of the egyptian mediation. He asked me was mentioning this just a few moments about the role that egypt has been playing historically. But for palestinian factions, how important is egypt as a partner . Obviously, its a geographical proximity must play a part here. Egypt is of importance, or from a pick up point from which to political point of view. Also from any point, if you just continue to enjoy buddy strong relations with the faction continue to enjoy the strong relationship with a hearty with hamas and also with israel indeed with United States. So if you get in the region of the player and its significant to play or how they gyptian mediation is important for 2 factors or for 2 reasons. One and it has a strong relationship with his weight and so. So egypt can communicate with israel messages and can also manage talks in terms of the thing as they can. They have a strong relationship with them up and continues to be a significant player. And yadda. And i think both understands and israeli palestinian, sorry, trust egyptian mediation and you just continue to enjoy something youve been enjoy relations but also continues to enjoy and support in terms of mediation efforts. Also lets not forget that egypt has, am direct borders with gather and be just continues to console. Fact crossing, which is a major border between the outside world. And egypt also continues to support the humanitarian aid and to gather. But let me just go back to the main point for the me at area which is all of the short term agreements will not be successful as long as we do not address. First of all, when you have a conciliation, it needs to be addressed and supported. Secondly, the israeli gene of our time has been occupation that the funds have been living under since 940. If this system is not addressed, this aggressive system policy is not that address where are likely going to see more aggression, more violence, and also horace ability over the coming years, right . And as long as we can continue to support it and not to support a political limit, were going to see more, more ability as well over the coming years down here, a former diplomat and the negotiator as well. From your point of view, what does this mediation actually achieve . I mean kyra has attempted several times egypt as well as others have attempted several times to to push for some sort of reconciliation process between israel and at the time it was. Huh. So so i think that israel and egypt of the close coordination and secure relationship between the security, establish monks, and so israel trusts egypt in that regard. And also as the israel has been working with the special kentoria in boy to gaza of over the years. And so i believe that israel sees the gyptian options, egypt, and channel as the best way to try and resolve the the outstanding issues and to reach, assist by egypt, has proven over the last several years of a previous conflict that its able to deliver. When it comes to bringing the palestinian side to the table or to to agree to the conditions of the truce perhaps excessive dan, but were talking here about sort of long term solutions. Correct . So, so, you know, the issue is that none of the parties are looking long term and thats a problem. Theres a problem of israels not looking long term egypt and the students for sure not looking for long term. And if you dont look for long term, its a problem because each every few months or every few years, you face the same problem again and again. And i think its an issue of leadership. I think its an issue political circumstances that, that can make this happen, but these have not crystalized yet and it will take time. And unfortunately, innocent people are hurt or losing lives in or just under under threat of violence. And until there is a long term approach by all parties, nothing is going to move forward. Unfortunately, it on the hoodie when you look at whats happening right now in gaza from your assessor and what kind of intensity and length of conflict could we potentially be seeing . My guess is that the immediate conflict will wind down in the next few days. A mass is unlikely to join in a fight or some of the other smaller on fractions. But well see it depends what these relas do. These rallies go around, killing more people and destroying more infrastructure. And if they hit some of the other, whoops, than you might get an expansion of the actual fighting. But i dont expect that because that fighting has expanded many times in the last 20 years. And it just doesnt solve anything that there is no military solution to this 3rd, nor is there a solution to the israeli policies of apartheid and seizure restriction and dehumanization are the only solution is a negotiated one that gives both people equal rights and statehood. But the most important thing, the israelis, i think, a need to recognise which they probably know deep down better are not able or willing to to admit is that every time they have carried out their policy for what they call mowing the lawn, mowing the grass every few years, they attack gasser, they destroy some things, but every time in the wake of that kind of his really attack, the militant forces in gaza, get more public support as theyre doing now is sunjay had, despite the criticism people north of it is the only group that is now seen to be resisting israel, even though theyre not going to liberate palestine, that putting up a show of resistance generates great support for them. And the other thing that happens is they become more technologically sophisticated. If you look at hamas and islamic to her, than his below, and even the hoodies and, and yet when they get support from the iranians and the syrians and other people, they help each other. And they have become increasingly more sophisticated that arent and lebanon were, was valera and israel have a ceasefire . Theyre afraid to fight each other because they know that would be massive destruction. So israel has to look at the long term concept of what it does and then look at a pure strategy one day. All right, ill have to leave it there. Thank you so much for joining us yesterday. As carter at army hoodie and dan or bell, we thank you so much for your time. Thanks for watching. You can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com for further discussion. 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