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And the funeral is being held for a palestinian teenager in janine in the occupied west bank. 17 year old that all kept freeney was killed on monday during violence. Railey forces. I think there are, has been opposing protests by supporters of to share political blogs. People demonstrated on monday, outside baghdad for 5 green zone again to take over parliament by protesters back ah, russias ambitious naval strategy that americans, as the u. S. Is the biggest threat. His Global Maritime goal is promised to equip warships with unprecedented weapons. So what does this new naval strategy need, and how will it be viewed in washington . This is inside story. Ah, how theyre welcome to the program. Im kim vanelle, president vladimir persian has announced his planned expansion of russias naval power. Singling out the u. S. As the biggest obstacle putin signed a new naval doctrine on sunday, cures in washington and of trying to dominate the worlds oceans. The 55. 00 page document states that natos movements threaten moscows borders and details a plan to strengthen it. Rushes geopolitical position in a speech to mark navy day fusion did not directly mention the warren ukraine. Instead, he thanked military personnel and pledge to defend russian interests in the black and as of seas. I was listed and good, i need to use the one. We have openly outlined, the boundaries and zones of rushes, national interests, both economic and strategic. First of all, these are our arctic waters. Some of the waters of the black are caught and wearing seas, as well as the baltic and curl straits. But we will insure their protection firmly and by all means for all of us, the motherland is a sacred concept. And its defense is one of the highest duties and the meaning of life for each and every one of us must be very, ah, lets bring it our guests in moscow is Sergey Markov director of the institute of political studies. Hes also a former spokesman for president blame at proven in vienna. Is wolfgang put ty, a Security Defense analyst and former Austrian Defense attache and new york is lawrence brennan, a retired u. S. Navy captain and adjunct professor of law at fordham university. Very one, welcome to you all. I thank you for joining us. Id like to begin with you, mr. Markov. If i may thing as you were a former spokesman for president putin and may have some insight into the thinking in his, in his circle. I just want to get your take on this new naval doctrine, what it means and i guess more importantly what it signifies, just a ball. I think it will be up your documents or not actually government has to be changed because now and you would have been where were going to say, well, malik, and im sure youre not perfect or wrong. Democrat, to get elected ukraine, imposed on democratic regime to people and support aggressiveness against people in done with price. And we gave, you know, we go in that she also can see it. But it was just teresa and lit by United States of america and to each member including conjures jones. So russian needs, in this new reality to change as a bunch of documents. Libel strategy is its, thats why its kind of describes that youre not gonna say is that god made us so rare to get to, to, to introduce and youre not to attempt to book the rasa is regarded as a ocean and see its quite a few. Okay. Do you want to pause you there and just pick up on something you said disconnected describing this is a new reality and positive to wolfgang puts di, obviously, in terms of the reasoning for the war and ukraine. The position of ukraine in the west is, is somewhat different, but i just wanna get your take on this new naval doctrine is this does a signifier, a new reality. Well, i would say its a new naval doctrine is also somehow a reaction to later enlargement. Nathan large went into an off regard to finland and sweden. This weakness that used to egypt, possession of russia in the north, significantly. Especially in the case of a major war between russia and nato. Natal would have come up to present the naval base who sought in northern speed, the more monce candidate at the corner peninsula. Big regard to the development from the previous 2015 doctrine. I would say its no surprise, its more or less a logical development. Ok, mr. Lawrence, brandon, youre, youre a navy man. Whats your sort of reaction to this naval doctrine . And what do you make of the timing of the slee rusher is at war with ukraine, but is there any importance around the timing of this . There could be terrible importance about the timing of this, this undue centuries of traditional maritime law law, the high seas and undue is more than half a century, a very good naval relations between the former soviet navy and the right now the russian navy and the u. S. Navy, in the dark days of the early 1900 seventies. Soviet navy in the u. S. Navy came to an agreement called the incident c agreement in the agreement to prevent the risk of unintentional or possibly accidental harm between their ships. It was during the time of great hostilities in the eastern mediterranean, among the arab nations and israel. And weve had good relations, annual meetings and resolution at, at lower levels of possible conflicts. We, we have agreements that supplement the law. The see, we have agreements accept them, supplement the rule, the road rules of the road, and we have fairly good relationships. When i was on the aircraft, carrier limits that launched the raid to ran to try to rescue the american hostages. We always had a russian or then a soviet surface ship shadow up. We had some interesting communications at that time and got in trouble with president carter for sending hockey scores during the 1980 olympics. But they were professionally done. There were no real risks of collision, no real risks of weapons being fired accidentally or intentionally. This is the question then for a survey ma calls over in moscow. Theres been a lot of discussion about this being a reaction to the expansion of nato. Is that the reason for this naval doctrine house threatens, does russia feel right now about nato not so much concerned about, especially about seeing them see them. So we know that because those teachers may so good are you and you and the members and you get up and say, what do you got that you love to be part those that mates or when i was going to see them took part in all meeting so many and also a little so it was in the connections between nato. And so didnt that are much also a was the reason why were going to so much. Again, membership youve been made is because your work was that some of your credit to buy rushes into creating buys, clear red russia and to vote to permit that russia and say you listen to india and its what read up like a saw because this big sort of did it say i sent you good. Talking to the no, no more interested can. This is reflected in the naval digits brush. I wanted to see if the security is alsa nor my direct attic way. So call regards important going to me and for the security issue also, and we wanted to defend this out of the way from any any problems that was considered doesnt apply. Such ways to be useful. Robson will be prioritized for today. Okay. Well, i can post, i can see you want to jump in there before i get your response. I also want to ask you the main for it to russia, according to the doctrine is the Strategic Policy of the usa to dominate the worlds oceans. Is that true, is there a shift from the u. S. Wanting to dominate the world waters . Well, trust me regards to maple excess of sweden and finland the recent peak difference for russia, because for the time being a partnership for peace. And now, after the real full members may put that research, mutual defense clause, which makes the difference, there is an integration of both countries, income nato command structure. And then you mayville doctor in russia, kansas also to perceived fred by these 2 additional maple countries by account of rep in the arctic. And we prefer to your question for the United States, the freedom of shipping, the freedom of Global Shipping light is by for strategic interest, survival, strategic interest. In order to ensure this, the u. S. Navy needs for em and paying the present all over the rug. Please speak, regard to the clothes, shipping rooms. In russia, new doctrine use a clear mismatch and mismatch oxford. Each got check. They said that a little means the russia maybe has about 210 westerns out of these 210 rascals about 55, a fully functional blue water ocean going vessels and submarines about half of them can be considered modern ships. This means its unlikely that the russians will be able to threaten american. She control the falling somehow, the so called french shut, and they call it a naval concept of the 19th century, which means that aimed is not so much to dominate this. He but to challenge the u. S. C. Control. All right, id like to come back to you. So to game out of cars, do you agree with that assessment of russias sort of strategy in terms of its naval power and sort of, how do you think all of this is likely to be viewed by the other side is likely to be viewed by the us a nose does that, i did it. Itd be difference about what i me to consider you can want to. I made it comes to your head americans doing general and we know think about russia. Not sure about exactly because it gives a process to we wont be not week because of them. So its important for the attempt. We understand why its a tool important to me to say 6, why is go look potential speech is used by physical a, by somebodys or some kind of taking part in that i still have to go to walk the more or less additions as well. But if you finish and in a war year, although you couldnt reach me in the most a grade but begins, are all say americans use you can and as usual, i mean its been a conventional was to be no source wrong. No. So, so im going to, thats why russia by human, which of the now. So im going to build your major a naval seats will convince somehow of what we expect it to where the grid will have to take part in the future. Wolfgang 1st i come back to you depending on which, unless you talk to the thought of the war, it was discussed that russia had failed in its initial aims. But wanted to go and take over ukraine or take over large parts of ukraine and it be done and that instead its turned into a war of attrition. And that in fact, it wanted to, to take over to take control of the black sea. Was that ever an aim was, would russia ever have been able to do that . And if this is now a war of attrition, how well as russia placed to, to continue that ok. At the beginning, the russians fet, the chiva based on the wrong assumptions. If youd not believe that the Ukrainian Armed forces would put up if the persistence action assumption was that the vast majority of the russian us in living in ukraine, which joined the russian army in bonds. It is not believed that west, including the United States, would be both serious sanctions on russia. And if they would look on the military concept, the squeak attacks, the so called operation minority groups trying to reach yes or typical example for these wrong assumptions. They believed that they could get the key and theyve all would be older. They will to prefer to install russia friendly government in keys. He says, obviously faith and they have now changed approach the strategy, his message about it. As of said, boss rationing that on bus devona succeed in occupied the whole of the don bus. And if possible, this means if theyre able to eliminate the vast majority of ukraine and forces, they would aim also to attack or tessa and advance to, to occupy the whole black seacoast. If this is possible, we could see in the next weeks or months in the ukraine, us able to upload the receipts that this is certainly depends also on the amount of weapons deliveries from the west. Lawrence, brandon, weve talked a lot about the strategy and the naval strategy, but i want to get a little bit specific about some of the announcements around this naval doctrine. So theyre going to be hyper on a missiles on some ships. Can you just explain to us and to our audience at home, what they are, what sort of challenges they present for potential combative, short egan, simplistic terms. Dessert kind of missiles which are on salt, brush and naval combatants. Have a range of approximately a 1000 kilometers. And have a speed of about 500. 00 nautical, which is also about 500 nautical miles. They have the speed of 9 times the speed of sound, which is nearly 7000 miles per hour. Wow. Their pass age to destroy, safely in flight. Now that doesnt mean theyre accurate, but it doesnt mean that they will lock on, but it means that those who are defending against those targets have to go back to the early flight errors, particularly towards the end of world war 2. And the japanese can cause the effects mand suicide claims, and the aircraft, in theory, missouri on this will have to be destroyed before the to watch. That means that the target is the ship carrying them right now. The publicity is that the ships that carry them are relatively small. So we had a rush enabled corvette for destroyer type ships, their ability to defend barry in integration. Large groups are not, no, thats one thing that will have to be planned. I am sure that the us naval war college, the technical people in the navy are looking studying this and coming up with our proposals, how to respond to it. Before it happens, we also have to work in a world where we hope that no one begins unprepared, unannounced 1st, right . Thats not the policy of the United States government. And hopefully is not the policy of russian government or any other civilized government in the world. Just before we move on from you, mr. Brandon, the much anticipated grain deal has finally gotten underway today, allowing ships from ukrainian ports to go through down the black sea and into the boss for us in installed to get much needed grain to avoid a, basically a Worldwide Food crisis. I mean, how tenuous is that, how dangerous is that . Is there a potential for this to go wrong . So theres always potential for hazards to the sea. And most of those are relatively benign thing. Thats why the insurers of lloyds and until when in europe ensure maritime risk that happens is there are certain excluded risks, war risks that are under special insurance in london, particularly not exclusively. And those are things were looking at. But this grain from what i read earlier today is bound for lebanon, where theres desperate need if the russians agreed to allow range leave. And the turkish government, which controls bosworth and the exit and entrance into the black sea, turkey, and member of nato. If turkey permits that and supports it, and there are no opposition to know how silly things will work, ok, there still. And there are still uncertainty as to what really is going to happen. And if there is a blockade of grain, grain, and economic warfare, and that for as, as he said, it does seem to be consensus among around among all parties about the importance of this working. So give me a call. I thought to come back to something you said talking about the, the arctic ocean, the importance of the arctic ocean is actually set out in this doctrine. Why is it so important for russia, the arctic ocean . Whats happening there . Arctic ocean and becoming more and more important for russia because your social because of global warming, now we see more opportunities for trade. So artic ocean bullying shaw course and its, well, its going to be a good, a good way to reach can replace in ways including say its and its almost twice less by kilometers in general. It could be, did it for the boat or rational equipment or the global one. Me as well. This one second, the, the really big this or changing get the oil room. She in the article. Well, you can, its not so easy to do because of the ice is up now the new technology probably will go to do and little specialty is just and he got articles and supplies will get an or if you may know now developing Global Economy more and more energy wise source or will be able to take get some oil. Caution will be great. Okay. All right. Ok. Well thank just id like to cross over the you. You want to Say Something or comment on on that yet, i just would like to add that the arctic is also significant because its the federal and lounge area for russian ballistic missiles. Submarines. Brian, well that more control over the most can. I dont open i to ask you. C weve been talking there about, you know, having ports that are warm, water reports that can be accessed. How has russia tried to secure allies or pot news in the region to get poor access . I mean, syria has been a key ally through through the war and syria. What about egypt or thought personal greece or libya . Well, one must not forget. The position of russia in the, in africa is not that bad as it is frequently perceived in the west. There are many african countries, the warm and close relationship to moscow, and especially from residence to residence. So this must be all this keep kept in mind. And i would say there are several options for the russians to find. The naval base is in africa, especially on the african east coast. So with regard to libya for the time being, although there are russian mercenaries currently present in libya, i think it is highly unlikely, highly unlikely that there could be any leave in the room that would allow the russians to establish a naval base in, lets say topic why . Because the relationship with the west europe is much more important for libya than the relationship with moscow. Sure. Lawrence, brandon, weve got about a minute left. I can see you want to add something there. Please take the full sure. For more than a 100 years, russian and friendly naval forces and Work Together in the far north at the end of world war 11971918 british in us. Naval forces were at mass in ark, angel, and towards the end of the war in later years, us and other naval forces were in what was stock for many reasons. Through the through world war 2, a lot of goods were transported from the United States to russia via the latter law stuck. And in 19181990 of the western allies were concerned that japan would try to seize what a bus stuck in the more more works in northern russia. So this is a long term problem with some good historical precedent. Well, were discussing at a conference. All right, well, have to leave it there. As you say, we could have an entire conference just on that for time. No, thank you very much job. I guess my calls will can post die. And lawrence brennan, thank you for watching. You can see the program again any time by visiting our website, al serra dot com. 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