After his death. And the last thing i would probably like to say is that prishen has his last book called the thicket of the ship, it is actually a continuation of the story that you all probably read and know and remember the pantry sun the ship part of this is such a sequel , speaking in modern terms. And in this thicket of the ship there is a very important image for the prince of a small Christmas Tree, a Christmas Tree. This Christmas Tree grew in the shade all its life, grew in the shade of large trees, dense trees, and therefore it grew very poorly, frail, sickly, and the Christmas Tree, then people came who wanted to help this Christmas Tree, who wanted to free it. These people cut down huge trees, and a bright bright light poured onto the Christmas Tree. And what happened to her . She became even more ill. She barely she didnt die, but she still survived, and after getting sick, she began to grow, and she grew tall and beautiful for sure. Prishvin was also confident in the russian future in the future of russia , which had gone through all its trials. Through all his adversity, often offended and not understanding the meaning of the fact that russia is happening to her and is subject to this growth, development of blossoming, he believed in this and so. In fact , he remains in our memory, a writer, a wise teacher, connected by blood with the russian soil with the russian sky with the russian soul. This is what he was like wonderful Mikhail Prishvin this was the podcast life of the remarkable and with you im its leading writer Alexey Varlamov i was out of boredom resurrecting a serbian lure of a belt, and next to me was father eulampia, and next to me was father in a lamp. Yula saved me from my sins, didnt betray me, didnt betray me, didnt kill me, didnt have mercy, and dont leave the last hand. And here i am, here i am, here i am, here i am, here i am, in kind, mom. I mostly live in camps in camps, like a monk, like a monk without sin. I am like mary without sin. I am like mary without sin. Im like maria work. Dont leave here. Here i am, here i am, here i am, here i am in kind, and before there was stagnation, there was stagnation, and i was a small single man. Idle. Ten commandments, many 10 commandments, many 10 commandments. And im fighting. Dont betray me, betrayed me, dont kill, dont kill, dont have pity, and there in nature matthew i give the nine commandments, you keep them without lies, without lying, the tenth is not wanted. I didnt betray my russia, dont kill me, and here i am , this one here, here ill give, in kind, fuck it. Hello this is a podcast 20 years later and its presenters Konstantin Mikhailov and Alexander Anatolyevich this year. We are celebrating the anniversary of the wonderful poet mikhail isaevichs song. A huge number of hits are written by the entrance of the black cat. Around the corner to the white swan on the pond. This is just about the black and white stripes in the life of Mikhail Tanich. We will talk to people who knew him well, who were friends with him. His favorite brainchild is our guest. Group lesopoval Alexander Sokolov musical director keyboard instrument. Uh, mikhail isaevich, but we have a person who was personally friends with him he knows and knows a lot of stories about Mikhail Tanich. This is exactly veniamin. Absolutely right , mikhail isaevich spoke with his listeners on behalf of different characters, for example, a rescue volunteer with komarovs hit song performed by igor sklyar or a young lady disappointed in love with the song knots. This, of course, is alena apina. And ill tell the whole world a secret that what impressed me most was that mikhail isaevich could talk quite calmly with any age in any audience, even with schoolchildren, and suddenly in some nineties, when he was already 70 almost years. He suddenly switches gears and organizes a group called logging, which later becomes his favorite brainchild. And of course. Eh, ill buy you this one. Tom was a hit and was in demand everywhere. In all the restaurants they asked him to sing as an encore; who could sing it . And those who didnt know how to dress still sing, naturally, karaoke, in general, great songs, this song was dedicated to the summer claudia, kozlova, all the best, all the best songs were dedicated. Naturally, to the second half, every word is beautiful, benjamin. We record it because it is an eyewitness. Thanks for the details. We are waiting for them. This is a line in the history of russian pop chanson music, whatever. You can call it that. Although it seems to me that this is a worldview. Yes, you, like your style, and hmm , describe these very soulful songs , soulful songs. It seems to me that lesopoval is a general style that has already developed somehow with ilya, do you remember we discussed with you that even before such masters of chanson appeared, there was lesopoval, which people immediately liked. Associated exactly with logging just the way he is. I would like to add that our style was described somehow on one of the programs. This is yard romance. We have a recording of the first concert, when mikhail isaevich introduced the lesopoval group , which was unexpected for himself. A cycle of songs called songs of a former child. That is , the heroes of these songs are a thief, in this case a pickpocket, unexpected, of course, the hero of the songs, but what is unexpected. I think its all the better for what kind of song this is in character. These songs are satirical social songs. Well, in general, since the hero, the former it is songs of repentance, he sings there in one song. I swung a beam and a shovel and built this chaos with you, but before you i am not guilty for everything that i have already taken. I served isaevich 6 years in prison for no injustice. He was imprisoned under article fiftyeight, the political article was a denunciation. Well, yes, it was a denunciation. This is in a casual conversation, friends were standing talking, and then someone took it. Eh, he reported it and then, by the way, well, he expressed himself positively about the equipment, since he reached berlin in germany by road, better roads and roads. I think he mentioned that there was even such a company there. It is still known that they have better radios there, too, then decades later. He met this man. Who informed on him, so he asked him, almost on his knees, asked for forgiveness, but mikhail saiich did not forgive, he never forgave, betrayal, betrayal, deception. He was a very uh, fundamentally, in this, in principle, character. Do you think mikhalych was very worried before he came out and presented his case still, reverently, despite his Life Experience and his celebrity, of course. She was worried in general, especially because we were not allowed, neither on stage, nor on the radio, not on television, and even then i remember mikhail isaevich, even these shots, when they gave him the broadcast, and he said so, please, dear producer director a little bit, develop yourself and give us a niche, uh, the group will perform under the name lesopoval thats about it. We fought our way through. There wasnt even any concept of chanson yet, as such it was. Eh, the founder of the creation of the lesopoval group is this is part of creativity. This is the romance of this plast, it could be associated with mikhalych s worst memories, however, as far as i understand, the creation or sabotage of his beloved brainchild. This is still the light strip. You created his life itself and existence in general or slept this is some kind of emanation, probably, but you also know this, the most beloved children. Yes, children are the most soulful. They are the most suffered for how long he lived in his life, but lost his blood. You could say, then to create this group, and it was created. Its like childbirth, too, and hmm, they did everything at once, like, he came in agony in agony. Yes, in agony. Eh, radio these poems were born later , and lady nikolaevna actually encouraged mikhail savich to make this material public, well , he had the poems at first, i suppose, but i feel a little ashamed, in general , for this. Well, imagine, yes, serve in prison. You have a lot of poems on this difficult topic. It was a decision, but at the same time, and you are a creative and subtle person with this soul and you need to make it public. That is, the fact that you were already sitting, as if it were a big revelation, as if you were ashamed, as if just a little bit, but they wouldnt let you leave. There are some cities where a lot of things are closed. Youre already like some kind of renegade. Well, at the same time, you have a lot of subtle spiritual material that you have felt and now generally move beyond this and open up. Its very big. This is a very big step. Im being frank. I think, and in principle, this is all confirmed by the information that a woman still plays a big role in life, in general a man. Yes, and thats why nikolaevna s people, as far as i know, well, my information is about 10 years old, just constantly. She beat him at one point, beat him, so that he somehow began to show these songs to people, directed, yes, yes, because she, i think, proved to him that people need these songs, that is, this is the friendship, too, friendship with the first soloist. We know that mikhalych had a very close friendship with sergei korzhukov, because sergei wrote music, yes, yes, and i gave it and it was harder. As i understand it, its just the moment when sergei passed away from mikhail isaevich. Naturally, he gave up, but what inspired him . Hmm, after all, he decided to continue the logging project. When seryozha ryzhakov passed away from all over, sveta began to receive letters ; do not close this project , logging and from those people. Which they sat and began to act in a halfjoking, and maybe even a serious form of threat if you close the project. Then you will have to give up your life, so to speak, but in fact, mikhail isaevich, he could not finish this project, as soon as he began to talk and broadcast about it. Thats why it was organized. So to speak, casting and a lot of guys came. Yes, they came and chose new soloists. So the work continued, but in memory of seryozha kozhukhov. So we carried it at each end. To this day, we also always mention mikhail savich and seryozhik zhukov and all the guys who worked and untimely left the group. Now i want to listen to your performance. No matter how paradoxical it sounds, something that Mikhail Tanich did not write for the forest felling. I mean legen. The song black cat, of course , is just a song at all, they say that if a black cat crosses the road, but for now, on the contrary, only the black one who crosses the road, but for now, on the contrary, only the black cat is unlucky. From ears to tail, this cat was blacker than blackness itself. Yes, and a song. In general, black cats are said to be unlucky if a black cat crosses the road, but for now, on the contrary, only black cats, only black cats. No luck, only a black cat has no luck. Mommy doll hi, like the property and get a pharmacy over the baby the premiere of the multipart film on september 25 on first is that my mother and i got divorced. 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She is not fired, i made a favorite on friday on the first this podcasts 20 years later and our guest today is the Legendary Group lesopoval, who now commands the team of the ledokolaevna team, there are no more questions, questions ilya, when you came to the team, you were already attacked , slava suffered, in principle, our life is diverse and beautiful enough to find some reason for joy and happiness in it every day. Yes , regardless of whether this is some kind of shooting day or an ordinary day where you are walking, somewhere myself there in the yard or next to the house, and therefore i see every event that happens in my life. I try to take it calmly, and about the burden of popularity that i came with. I wouldnt say that i had such a big burden of popularity or that somehow i came to a super popular group. I can tell you how it was in general, i have more. I have experience of performing in general. Yes, on stages, starting there from karaoke restaurants and ending there. There are some municipal life states, some competitions. Well, such a big shoot television, all this happened at first, to be honest, to my own. You can say shame. All my life i have been running away from chanson, you can say, because i got drunk on it in a restaurant like that. The swan also sang there 17 times in a row. Its ready in the evening. And in the end, then lida nikolaevna called lesopoval there, i think , lesopoval again chanson and then, but when i started learning the song materials, i didnt even know, when i worked in the restaurant, that the white swan was lesopoval, to my shame. I had white swan semir written minus. Which c this is her memory, yes, great, and then, when i began to learn the songs, each song, as if you approached it, yes, you try to maximally invest your soul and all your capabilities in order to perform it well. Yes, and tanichaya has such poems and songs that when you start learning a song, you start singing it at some point that fits in your throat, and i technically cannot reproduce it further until i rethink my life. Here at this point im rethinking it. Ill go pay for it, maybe theres Something Else there and then i can do this perform a song, that is, how many sincere words that coincide with you. You understand that tanichs songs are like programs that are very useful for the human soul, what are your favorite lyrical songs in your repertoire, well, generally different, to be honest, at one time i really liked the branches of the mosa there are words like that and we are inveterate we were a seasoned heathen from the fact that there is everything in this world, love and nothing else. Well, i like different songs from time to time. Prayer i really like my mother, a letter to my mother turns out well youll play different songs in turn with us, and you understand, what kind of story we get , completely different images and people who come to our concert. They seem to read it as completely different, it turns out to be a character in fact. Yes. Yes, today the lyrics will be performed by you. Well, of course, thats true. Lets listen to the lyrical song about love in the podcast 20 years later performed by the group. Logging song is called dont slam the door. When will it turn out that there is no love . And this will become clear at a glance. Go away and well all say goodbye and not necessary. Notify about this with a white light. Dont slam the door, you wont change anything, and slam the door , you wont explain anything, and slam the door, leave and remember the evil, in the name of the love that was. Is it easy for me to tell you go away when your whole life is loss and loss and everyone is right and no one is to blame. But our conversations are behind us. And slam the door, nothing slams. Dont explain anything and slam the door. Go away, not remembering evil, in the name of your life that was. Dont slam , dont slam anything, dont explain anything, dont slam the door, go away and remember, in your name. Which was. Sasha listened to you, as the soloist mikhail isaevich tanich himself. Its an old story. It was exactly in 1995, when the tragedy with sergei korzhikov happened, some time passed and they began to choose him as a soloist. Well, i came to moscow completely brazen and auditioned everywhere as possible, and it dawned on me that they were auditioning. My mother loved lesopoval very much. So i came completely brazenly at the age of 15 years old. Hoho , thin, white, that is, i sang it myself as a youngster. Ill buy you a house. To me they said. Well, its like the guys there , what are you going to do there and thats it. And actually, thats where it all ended. It was before this year that we came together in the seventeenth and eighteenth maxim how did an acquaintance call you in a logging camp . And he asked if i would like to audition at lesopoval, i dont know why this happened, but at that time you were doing what i worked in the metro and who i worked in the track service at night and decided that it was during this period. Well, before that i served in a military ensemble. Hmm, someone went to work in the metro and decided that during this period. I i finally improved my vocals from these classes, there i will take a certain course, which i noted for myself and somewhere in the middle it all was interrupted. I called my friends and said, would you like to audition, when i said that i wanted to try, we called up like a pig. He coordinated me, and he explained to me how to record songs, how to perform all this so that the indicator nikolaevna so at that moment it seemed to me that i could sing after a military ensemble. This was all warmed up by the soloist. Well, okay. Well, of course, so, uh, and i recorded several demo tapes and sent them to vienna. He said that it wouldnt work. Ill try to try it like this. And i didnt even know who the team was then. They just gave me contacts and said, here is a person, right . As a result, through the director, these videos reached nikolaevnas house and about a week later i was already there in my homeland in mordor, i called the director and said that i would like to listen to you in the summer. Yeah i sang hmm she i remember right now, she shook her head like that here, he says, no one needs your vocals. No need here. You sang with your voice, but you had to have a soul, you had to have a heart, and thought that on the recordings i was now easy, so to speak , i was old. By that time, i was 27, probably or 26, and then she said, i have there are all soloists. Uhhuh, i dont know, he says, why am i listening to you . I have a full squad, why are you here . Well, he says, if you want to sing and practice, i ll study with you, because i see in you something i can work with. We are with you well pull it out if you have a desire, i know who lady nikolaevna is, said, naturally. Lets study. She says, if you want, you can come. Thats how long this training lasted, a year with cooking, a year, a year , no one knew about me at all to the guy, except for vienna and lid nikolaevna then said that until you are completely ready, you wont be taken out. Here at this level, like each of the group. I wont introduce you to the guys only when i feel that i can show you off and introduce you, so that no one there were no questions in the team that something needed to be sipped, Something Else, and then that day came. And then that day came. I come to the rehearsal, so what, it was a concert . It was a concert in uh, serpukhov. Yeah, we went in the winter, when there was no road, when there were snowdrifts with everyone young then. Immediately , human qualities have normal, normal significance, as in any team, especially in a creative one. Of course , each team has its own crown. What kind of crown do you think is used in logging . How do you think its a swan . Well, of course, until now i have not doubted this answer. Well then, what about the white swan on the pond . I will buy you a house by a pond in the Moscow Region and i will bring you to this own house, i will have pigeons with you and with love. Im jealous under the window. And with you and with love. Well put you under the window. Ill take you anywhere. In the meantime, nikolai has no yard or garden. So that i can lead you by the hand. Lets guess with you, i dont need it myself. Well guess our five numbers out of six with you, i dont need it myself. Our five numbers out of six a white lion on the pond on that pond where i will take you we have little chance, but the man is a drummer. That throws the balls, controlling, then shine, if he is enough, he told me the number, if he is not a deceiver, which we will get we are back on the air, this is podcasts 20 years later and today we are celebrating the centenary of Mikhail Tanich. Our guest is the lesopoval group. Lets ask konstantin, he so solemnly holds a long pause that only a serious professional, like a music director, can withstand. Say absolute obedience in terms of music, because, well, these are different instruments have a different level of preparation for each musician. You are a maestro and its easy to lead the guys. Anything can happen, anything can happen. Yes, its just that some songs really need to be told like that. Uhhuh, the acting should be told somehow. Less less penalties more soul after the death of the poet mikhail dacha. You are doing something new. There is a Large Population and a lot of poems that are not published, and every year an album is released, and who writes the music, and his music is, in principle, logging such an interesting phenomenon in general, so to speak in stage, and russian, that there are poems by Mikhail Tanich, and music by different composers. Moreover, each composer has a very different taste and style. Well, all our famous composers are there, dobronravov alexander igor slutsky konstantin minin e. Ilya the spiritual yes Nikita Bogoslovsky what a list yes thats the point, thats all and the list is not sickly. Yes, people, thats why he felled the forest, as if he was all different colors. This is the news on channel one. My name is dmitry, hello. 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