Conflicts; they like to achieve their goals by other methods; their economic capabilities give them hope in this area. Do you think this is the model of relations that the Biden Administration would like to promote; it is feasible. But you know from the first point yes, because china poses a threat to the United States, this is, of course, a problem unreality and american ideology, if we say from a realistic point of view that , of course, china does not threaten the United States in any way and not with its armed forces and military relations not in a strategic sense, because, well, it is much weaker and has neither the opportunity nor the intention. In general, work out. This is, uh, such a terrorist position in politics, as i would say, but the problem is that in america it is considered. What counts . Any independent country that is successfully developing not according to the american model. This this is already a threat to american ideology. Yes, which says that this cannot be, roughly speaking, yes, and from this point of view , such a huge successful developing country like china which, well, is not politically subordinate to the United States and openly rejects its model, uh, politically and in some way. Then to an economic degree, although not completely. Yes, this, naturally, is a challenge or threat to the entire american ideological system, which is aimed at spreading the american western model in the world. That is from this point of view, the very existence of china is a threat to america, because people look at china and say, well , listen, you can live differently and also not bad. Well, yes, and this is in some sense a threat and the americans are with it. They cant come to terms with it, but its not me, well, im talking to the americans there, and they just dont understand. How is this possible . Yes, somehow something is wrong here or, uh, there is a theory of deception. Yes, china is everything. Here china, uh, should have turned to the usual western Path Development as a result of american assistance, but he deceived the United States. He did not turn back. Thats why we need to put pressure on him now. Well, in general, china did not promise to curtail anything. Yes, this is actually an american design, now the second question. Regarding the fact that china would not like the deterioration of relations with the United States, this is in principle true, and the chinese leadership says so, but there is a certain line here. Uh, china would not want to worsen relations with any party, but not at the expense of its interests and its security interests from the point of view of the United States are good relations can only be with a subordinate country in some sense to be accomplished now, and it took. Uh, they took the role. China means this is a system of such a traditional chinese world order, when china didnt consider it at all. Eh, well, as if ancient medieval china did not even think that other countries existed. There is, only one side, the other is some kind of gate, if they are good barbarians to help, they accept Chinese Culture there. And if bad things are not accepted, then they need to be taught correct behavior and sometimes by force. Here they behaved unbridledly, as they say, imagine the scenario, when china uh attacks taiwan oh well, first of all, what does attack mean. Uh, because taiwan is trying to establish control over taiwan through military action. I think that it is possible to imagine, but in some very extreme case, because again in china they reason rationally , these people are quite pragmatic and rational, and china naturally thinks. Uh, taiwan is the territory of the prc of the peoples republic of china. But why seize it in vain . Island . Eh, that means a bombing, damn it, with the economy destroyed, it wont do anything. This can be done as a last resort. Eh, if, for example, they openly announce a change in the constitution of the republic of china, what is it called . Officially, this is the taiwanese government. So, in general, they will formally declare independence. Maybe some china will truly unprovoke that iwan will be safe. And i think that, uh, china will try to the last minute by peaceful means, uh, to create such a situation, so that it could be annexed by peaceful means, because uh, well, we know. By the way, biden made a statement, some step forward here. He directly said several times that the United States will defend. Taiwan will it actually happen or not . We dont know, but the conclusion is that they also said this american theory, in which, as i said, you really exist. E in china and hmm , the Economic Situation has gotten a little worse lately. And the sooner there are many factors and pandemics, maybe some political measures of the chinese themselves manuals. But it is a fact that, and growth has slowed down and this can create , in principle, a dangerous situation, because in china if there is insufficient growth, then problems with unemployment and so on may arise, therefore, in the very last few months. E i would say e after the twentieth congress. Uh, Chinese Communist party. Eh, the countrys leadership has set a course within the country to revive market factors. Yes previously , sidimpin paid more attention to the public sector. There the state economy tried to somewhat limit influence. Here are the big companies. There is a meeting going on now. E with entrepreneurs. The management there is interested. How can we make sure that they live better there, develop the economy better, the same thing, some of them have such mitigation, uh, from the outside, yes. For example, the visa regime is being relaxed there, especially for foreign entrepreneurs. Uh, theyre trying to attract more investment and so on. 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And if you collect all the available facts, then you can explain any phenomenon in the universe, and on the path to understanding the world. It is very important to continue asking questions and finding answers to them. As they have been doing for many years in the intellectual club. What where when the autumn series of games on sunday on the first and always on 1tv. Ru special broadcast analytical issue big question by henry kisenger, russia china two ancient civilizations they have different philosophies they have different interests they do not like and do not trust each other. They may have short moments of closeness when pressured to unite against a common enemy, but in the long term the two countries are invested more in competition than cooperation. I think i conveyed my opinion quite objectively. What do you mean i dont believe it, not that i dont believe it, uh, i doubt this theory, which the state Russian Museum alison dedicated to a whole book about the fact that, well, the chinese are a very famous harvard professor, former deputy secretary of defense. Yes, uh, actually. Uh, china and the United States are doomed to some kind of conflict and not because uh, well, in general in politics and in life there is little that is predetermined, in principle, we now see uh, well, if the United States continues this course, then there will be a conflict , may be possible, but on the other hand. Eh, the chinese position e is quite flexible. Yes, in general, i think they can come to power in the usa. Someday some people who will understand that, well, in fact, for the American People and for the american economy. All this is quite dangerous, such a course is dangerous , so i dont think that two major powers should necessarily fight each other or does not predict that russia and china will fight , he predicts that if we are talking about longterm rivalry. Is the relationship between russia and china more complicated than the relationship between china and the United States . Its hard to say. Hmm, in the world of the future , economic power will play a significant role, uh, and therefore, uh, russia, uh. I think that should play in the future. Uh, well, the role of uh, a certain transit center. Yes, unfortunately, we have a little time to argue, but one note , yes, during the several wars, athens was much economically stronger than sparta hmm, but sparta won the war, and the mongols. They conquered kievan rus although my voice from an economic point of view is very small, which was represented by ancient rome, it was destroyed by tribes that economically could not even remotely compare with rome, therefore , it seems to me that in World History military power, and it very often turned out to be more decisive than economic opportunities, but in any case, in russia there will be no war with china , we have no contradictions and, uh, these are the fairy tales that are told in the west, perhaps, in some sense, a wise kisenger, paler victim these sentiments that in china they see the fifth to seize some russian territories, right . Or even absorb it somehow. E russia despite the fact that the population is small, in comparison with china it must be said, we experts know that, for example, chinese population. In china itself, they migrate from the north of the country to the south; they do not like living in the north at all. Yes, thats why china has no interest in seizing any territories closer to it, china has been doing this all its life, in general china, historically, has never shown itself to be a Major Military power. Something may change, of course, but you yourself know that china lost most of its wars and yet it came to, uh, such, uh, serious Economic Growth, the last question, the korean peoples democracy republic what happened to uh during kims last visit and the negotiations between north korea and russia in the Military Area are well known negotiations. E. Led by general shoigu from your point of view. This is some kind of real new beginning with penyang, or the same as you said in relation to china. Well, this is just such a traditional trajectory. No , i would say that this is a rather fundamental shift from a geopolitical point of view. This is completely clear, but in general the dprk has had rather tense relations recently with all countries, including including with china and russia but in recent years the situation has changed the dprk and , completely unlike china, it has strongly supported russia. But in this ukrainian conflict, one can understand why, because they themselves experienced in many ways, well, similar pressure from the west and similar threats and hmm here uh, on the other hand. Of course, north korea is not as powerful a country as china, but its army is not bad. Yes, and i think there will be some kind of cooperation here, of course. There are problems here, for example, sanctions, he uh, which, by the way, russia supported in the same way as china did in its time, but it was a completely different time. Well, as they rightly said at one time, a completely different time. Yes, now its just because of these sanctions. Uh, its technically difficult to withdraw because there has to be a new vote in the security council. And anyone there can impose a vetona, but i think its only possible that i slightly disagree with you from them. It is very easy to get out of sanctions; it is more difficult to lift them formally. Yes, i think that, well, neighboring countries will find some way that means, for example, china north korea seems to be china completely support sanctions but at the same time, in north korea there are somehow chinese hydrocarbons, there are Raw Materials there, somehow they, well, penetrate there. So, perhaps, something can be done. I remember well how in the midnineties, when the United States decided to intervene in the balkan wars, sanctions were already applied against, croatia. When no action could be taken by any of the parties to the conflict, and senator robert gave the then leading republican senator a candidate for post of president and he said but we are a great country and everyone knows that we are a very moral country, but cant we find an opportunity to do something for the government of croatia . Are there really no ways . Are there really no methods and there was no public discussion about this, but somehow the Croatian Army unexpectedly received a large number of new people. Well, croatia is a long country. It is located along the coast. So who knows what kind of pirates are out there, or smugglers. Thank you very much. This it was a very interesting conversation and i hope to see you again on our air soon. Thank you, it was an interesting and meaningful week , see you on air next week. The second oldest mediator between the state and society, the fourth estate, as soon as it does not name the profession, which we will now talk about. Hello , today we have gathered our thoughts about what journalism is and how and what to teach journalists today Elena Leonidovna vartanova dean of the faculty of journalism of Moscow University yaroslav lvovich skvortsov dean faculty of International Journalism institutes of international relations. Im vladimir yakor hello dear friends. Good evening. I have a first question for you or a prequestion, how . I call it there is such a stereotype that is unpleasant for our profession that they dont like journalists, where did it come from and how do you personally feel about it lena in the profession of a journalist there should be questions and quite often uncomfortable questions do not like journalists for inconvenient questions. This is probably the first reason a journalist lives in a very fast world; he doesnt there is always enough time to prepare well for an interview or some other, and a conversation with your own expert. Therefore, sometimes the journalists questions are hasty on the surface. This is also an objective second reason. Well, the third, probably, is that it is not always easy for journalists to formulate. Questions and the journalist what is probably wrong is that quite often he wants to get some given answer, so journalistic questions are the reason for dislike for journalists. I think this is the whole point, but this is part of the profession and profession. Probably related with these awkward questions, so the journalist should, perhaps, formulate more carefully, perhaps prepare more carefully for the interview. In general, a journalist should be more professional. Thank you left or some other reasons, uh, almost everything or what needs to be said, i would maybe add a little more. Eh hmm well, since uh, you already said they dont like places. I immediately have a question. And who doesnt love it . Who , as correctly said, doesnt like tough questions , doesnt like those who know how to twist questions , get to the bottom of things, doesnt like those who want to get to the bottom of the truth, no matter how inconveniently uncomfortable, and maybe unpleasant for someone it may be, so it seems to me that those people who, in principle, do not like to go deeper, who are not interested in the key issues. Who where when, what and why . They probably really have such a prejudice. Well, what are you digging for . Well, turn to someone else. Why did i become, uh, the object of your research . Why are you asking me questions . Not always convenient, not always comfortable, if i try to get away with this issue somehow and twist it further. I think that that person who does not need to hide behind some kind of mask, such people. It seems to me, at least with understanding. And maybe even with love. But i was listening to you just now, dear deans. And thats what i thought. Since recent years i have been working more, so to speak. Sorry about pr. I always meet with colleagues. I say that the press secretary is a pr person. He must like it. This, if you like, is a professional requirement, yes, because, well, there are different people, there are people with negative charm. They can be very smart professional, but they do not need to be made press secretaries. Yes, and in connection with this i have a question, ill say the journalist must like it. Look, if yes, here again, it depends on who, although i didnt want to agree with yaroslav, apparently, we still came from the same canons of journalism, so we share many things, so, ah, who should like journalist, and should the audience like him, and perhaps because the audience , regardless of whether he is a journalist, a Television Radio operator or a writer, and the audience is the main one for whom does he work as a journalist . He doesnt even work for the editorinchief, so it seems to me that a journalist should like him, but he should be liked not as a doll, not at all uh hmm pleasant, but in all respects, a gentleman or lydia, he should be liked as an author, he should be liked as a person , creating his own journalists and texts. After all, the main thing is that a journalist should like him. This is his job and his job. He must like where we get the golden pens, the microphones, the golden cameras from there, when a journalist creates his journalistic, and the product has its own journalistic content that people need. So, then he immediately likes him involuntarily, so that in order of originality they are called silver feathers and the rest of the Editorial Staff consider themselves golden golden. By the way, about originality. It seems to me that this is again about whether he said it correctly or not, it is not clear what it means to like. It seems to me that something should be interesting here. Hmm, in principle, a person is interesting, you know, we dont always calculate this in a predictable way. But there is one of building. Now i dont want to name it, which i even really loved. He worked there for many years, and then after five or seven years there. I caught myself thinking. Take this newspaper in your hand. I already understand about what , today she will be ironic about what she will be perplexed about, and i am not making discoveries by leafing through this publication, and part of the media performs this function, as the great bedrecht said, the world remains the world. And this thesis gives me optimism; i did not make any discoveries for myself after meeting this journalist with this publication with this material. I point to the side with you. I make discoveries all the time. Vladimir ivanovich here is the next device. Well , of course, he is unpredictable, like everyone else. What are you doing . So here it is. It seems to me that if the publication is for me as a consumer user. Well, predictable and understandable. Im interested in people, thats why i like them, in the sense that they surprise me. And to give food for thought, to offer some other angle of view , it seems to me that these qualities should be present, and i agree with the journalist and stubborn people to inform and analyze, ill hit it. I think of you, gentlemen, as old churchill to journalists, if im not mistaken, churchill said this, any educated european can be, lena agrees that without education there are no journalists, and i would be a european, here ill simply expand, but the word is a person or a man or a woman. What do you want to say that an educated latin american cannot but answer us . Yes, we will fantasize a little for any educated person, but it seems to me that churchill, and not completely, as he now likes to say, yes, he twisted this one. He didnt say he could write knows how to logically structure a text, knows how to check facts. That is, if education includes all this, then a journalist, perhaps any educated person who knows how to, and ill add a twist here, knows how to analyze, inform, present, even convince, and many other things that a journalist does. They must be included in this concept of education. It seems to me that we understand that we are, so to speak, trying to put it down to uh, relate to old man churchill, but still. Uh, with this uh, definition, yes, and we emphasize the word any. Isnt he trying to say that in general the profession as such, no, you are an educated person. Theres a historian there. Well, in general, you dont need anything else, and you dont need to know how to be a journalist. Well, it seems to me that, as far as i understand, churchill meant an intelligent and intelligent person. Well, of course, thats what he meant, although the enemy south europeans are seriously different in temperament, and therefore i would not concentrate on europe. Only quite right, the more lets remember that for example, in the times of churchills service, lets say a country like portugal, which we now certainly, that is, in europe , im looking for, they thought it was somewhere there, on the sidelines , so it seems to me that, but it protects. In this case, they drew, but he did not cast a shadow, but on the profession, because these additions formed by their lips were drawn. Eh, european, that is, an intellectual. Well, you first become an intellectual, and then you can show yourself, your knowledge, your education, your intelligence, including as a journalist, it seems to me that this is not something that is not casting a shadow. On the contrary, he rates it very highly, because this is the person who, according to churchill, falls under the category of an educated european, using the exact quote, how did you do it . First, you try to reach this bar, but i think that he is casting a shadow, of course, he is maliciously also belittling journalists, because, after all, he has skills. I wanted to tell the professional we teach then. If the law is which one, how did you start with this . How are you correctly noted, which are not needed by politicians and the cheese did not want to be constantly criticized, to be asked uncomfortable questions like yes, anyone can form an agenda, choose the main events, check the sources, find the correct interpretation of these events, of course, anyone and then he a hmm well i think that he simply expressed some kind of ah, no sympathy for journalists when he said that there is no such profession, but what do you want to say, sir . That there is such a profession as politics, but look also, politics, maybe, the cook said to another govern the state. Look, at the same time, there are still Different School traditions, and in the same united american states , as they once called, but still there is a school of journalism, which assumes the colombian one, yes, in my opinion, which assumes that there people who have received an education enter. That is, those same educated ones, well, in this case, americans. Although i studied there, there were very few of them, i met a lot of them, but nevertheless, they are already like an additional skill. Yes, studying journalism there for a couple of years, and there is after all. Here is our classic university preparation. Thats the difference here. How should we approach this . Well , i would say, so, probably, if you want, you can find, naturally, very different models, even it seems to me that in comparison with the university of the states you can travel a and notice the differences. Uh, in the presentation of information in copper works with information, uh, in different parts of the country in different, lets say, layers of society, as in any other large country. And it seems to me that these are essentially what i think we teach our students. We learn to think about them, and to think, soberly, interestingly reason, not just philosophize. Not just like, let your imagination run wild, but clearly, based on a good background. Somehow already quoted. My colleague vladimirovich gogolda. He said our wonderful thing, which i often quote to my students. What is culture . This is a system of selfrestraints, vladimir ivanovich, and so, it seems to me that these same restrictions apply. That is, that is , we develop their skills to think, reason, and formulate interesting questions. Again we uh, we often came across romanovich, it was an interesting experience, the trip to mexico was very interesting. Yes . It would seem that they are nearby states, and before that the northern states overlapped a lot, but a completely different presentation, a completely different perception, and this is what is actually interesting about the world and the interests of our profession, that you see these differences. Hell run over with a spoon. How i play game moscow without your hand will not hear the heart singing new album. Find forums around the city old favorite topics concert in luzhniki on saturday on first i could become anything musicians, i became a restaurateur, leading producer, husband and father because there was always a free alpha bank for the smart and free. Allow yourself more every month. And we are flying underground. Seconds without each other. 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You agree with this, of course, of course, but it should not be an absolute, dominant skill the ability to ask questions. This is also the ability to listen to answers , here journalists sometimes sag, but this is a universal skill vladimir romanovich, this is necessary for a journalist in North South America in africa in asia in russia the ability to ask questions, the ability to listen to answers is also needed everywhere. But here is what conclusions the journalist draws from these answers. And how he compares this with the available material is, of course, a national tradition, and i would say that journalism in general is a national product. This is a strange profession in terms of its combination of universal and national qualifications. Icatius, you were right when you said that in america, in the United States of america, there is a system of journalism schools, and they are not always part of the university program. You probably know this one